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Title: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Occitan_Salope on September 18, 2015, 12:24:23 am
Hi, I have heard a rumor ..  peoples want to nerf rocks ??? It's the worst weapon ever and this is really hard to play with this.

PLZ dont nerf rocks .. Throwing and fighting with rocks is very cool and entertaining !

R0ck_Man


Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Nightingale on September 18, 2015, 01:09:04 am
Rocks will be nerfed. Sorry to inform you.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: njames89 on September 18, 2015, 03:21:27 am
Booooooooooo  :evil:
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 18, 2015, 03:45:09 am
All rocks are good for is killing light armoured people, or people that are almost dead. It takes 2-3 rock throws to even get 1 point against heavy armoured targets (unless you get a headshot then you get like 2 points). Why this is getting nerfed I have no idea.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on September 18, 2015, 04:01:50 am
Probably because with 67 body armor I still lose a solid bar of HP to one rock and you get like 90 billion rocks to toss at me
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Schoi on September 18, 2015, 06:23:44 am
Rocks are getting nerfed?

Shit patch, shit game.

Rocks aren't even OP, it's just archers and people who can't find cover that get annoyed too easily by them.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: GandalfJr on September 18, 2015, 06:38:41 am
Rocks will be nerfed. Sorry to inform you.
u gey?
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Nightingale on September 18, 2015, 05:17:30 pm
If I had to guess a reason for them being nerfed it's probably due to the fact that you get a shit ton of rocks and are able to kite away with them while doing solid damage and accurately enough to be reliable.

Not to mention its the cheapest (price wise) weapon in the game.

- If I had to come up with a way to nerf them right now id just lower the ammo count or increase weight.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 18, 2015, 08:26:36 pm
Please make it so you can skip rocks in bodies of water.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Rando on September 18, 2015, 08:33:49 pm
Yeah man, it's really hard to throw 1,000 rocks at some guy as you safely kite away from him, or knock out his horse at range with your limitless supply of magical stones.

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: xxkaliboyx on September 18, 2015, 08:54:51 pm
They kite like beast and can hurt tin cans while having crazy amount of ammo and only costing what? 3 gold? Come on, this nerf been a long time coming. Not even xbows, throwers and archers can run away like Rock guys
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Schoi on September 19, 2015, 12:47:45 am
They kite like beast and can hurt tin cans while having crazy amount of ammo and only costing what? 3 gold? Come on, this nerf been a long time coming. Not even xbows, throwers and archers can run away like Rock guys

yeah but you can get any item in the game in like 4 minutes of play time so why does that matter?
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Alvin_the_Chipmunk on September 19, 2015, 02:03:03 am
I have tried rock thrower, even though I have a pretty good thrower build.

It's hardy hard, nard. Don't nerf.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Occitan_Salope on September 19, 2015, 02:08:18 am
A real pure rock thrower have 47 rocks to throw and keep the last one to fight in melee :D

I dont seek any other weapons and I dont have 1000 rocks to throw ( except when I grab rocks from other rock thrower corpse !!)

But it's ok to nerf rocks , that will be a more better challenge  :twisted:

Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Alvin_the_Chipmunk on September 19, 2015, 03:30:10 am
But it's ok to nerf rocks , that will be a more better challenge  :twisted:
you sure bout nerfing it
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: kono yaro! on September 20, 2015, 01:36:07 pm
I'd like to see the nerf-mongers try to play a pure rock thrower build and do good with it. lmao
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: BlackxBird on September 20, 2015, 02:05:59 pm
just give them ridiculously much weight. Like, u carry almost 50 rocks with u and still ure faster than every medium armored player. Like.... wtf?

rocks got like the shape to fit perfeclty in ya hand. And u carry 12 of them per slot. And only have 1,5 weight? And then they are 0slot? I mean seriously, who in rl could carry 3 throwing lances and 24 rocks and like 5 javelins?
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Rebelyell on September 20, 2015, 04:00:22 pm
well 2 staks of throwing lances + rocks and you are a god
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 20, 2015, 06:28:41 pm
dang if only there was a better throwing weapon to bring with lances... maybe if we had some type of... throwing dagger??? maybe this item can be added soon, with higher dmg than rocks an 8 ammo each slot, that might one day over rule the fucking op rampage of rocks we have now
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: BlackxBird on September 21, 2015, 12:56:01 am
I think they should do something like a weapon rack for throwers only. Like, u got ya box, where u can take throwing shit from, but u cant throw shit when you're not there. Would fix the shoot and run bullshit and it would give throwers a bigger stack of throwing weapons.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Gravoth_iii on September 24, 2015, 06:03:29 pm
Are stones really getting nerfed? what the fuck. Nerfs suck, they just make things unplayable untill there is a forced meta of non-nerfed items.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 24, 2015, 06:14:19 pm
Are stones really getting nerfed? what the fuck. Nerfs suck, they just make things unplayable untill there is a forced meta of non-nerfed items.

Yep, there are some really shitty nerfs coming this patch. Not looking forward to it at all.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: BlackxBird on September 24, 2015, 06:23:13 pm
If they nerf archers Im outta here. Just found a class which is really fun to play and if they go the same way as horsearchers I will stop playing.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Gurnisson on September 24, 2015, 07:07:12 pm
Yep, there are some really shitty nerfs coming this patch. Not looking forward to it at all.

What nerfs?

Some people jokes around about maybe nerfing rocks and suddenly it's a fact?
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: BlackxBird on September 24, 2015, 07:38:02 pm
read that post again dude :D
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 24, 2015, 08:57:22 pm
What nerfs?

Some people jokes around about maybe nerfing rocks and suddenly it's a fact?

It is a fact. Was never a joke or rumor.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Rebelyell on September 25, 2015, 08:25:09 pm
I really feel that most of the balance is done around someone's agenda but whatever.
However in time where I can use most expensive eq that I can get and still make lots of money I have to say that rocks are last thing that deserve nerf.

I feel like lances are to good in melee. that is like my one problem with throwing at all.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 25, 2015, 09:08:02 pm
I really feel that most of the balance is done around someone's agenda but whatever.
However in time where I can use most expensive eq that I can get and still make lots of money I have to say that rocks are last thing that deserve nerf.

I feel like lances are to good in melee. that is like my one problem with throwing at all.

The reason, at least I believe, rocks are getting nerfed is while they are inefficient, weak, and almost useless, people are way more outspoken about them getting nerfed when they get killed by them just out of pure rage. Sure they are cheap, and can sometimes get kills, but come the fuck on. Rocks? Nerfed? Get your shit together guys.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Gurnisson on September 25, 2015, 11:38:09 pm
Rocks aren't getting nerfed though
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: POOPHAMMER on September 26, 2015, 12:38:50 am
Rocks aren't getting nerfed though

They are! I did some talking to the guy in charge of balancing anf I hope I inspired some of this change but.

Rock damage will not be changed! The original plan was to nerf rock damage, but the new plan is to keeo rock damage the same but lower stack size to 10, which is a great change! We still do the same damage but just have a few less shots, and that is fine by me!!!

LONG LIVE ROCK THROWERS

ROCKS FOR LIFE <33333
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Gurnisson on September 26, 2015, 10:20:16 am
It's not been a topic in the unbalancing forum, and I personally don't feel stones are in need of a nerf. I guess someone has gotten a taste of power and is bypassing the unbalance team to make changes he likes himself
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Dupre on September 26, 2015, 10:35:45 am
It's not been a topic in the unbalancing forum, and I personally don't feel stones are in need of a nerf. I guess someone has gotten a taste of power and is bypassing the unbalance team to make changes he likes himself

No one responds on the balance forums and if they do its a couple months later. I barely have time now and days so cutting down on bottlenecks as much as I can. Balancing is being done based off community posts/feedback(yes, I read them and test most). I also have a small active team that helps out with balancing. More balancers will be added for next patch.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Rando on September 26, 2015, 08:37:49 pm
Regardless of the above post, rocks throwing did need a nerf, so fuck it.
Title: Re: Nerf Rocks ????
Post by: Occitan_Salope on September 29, 2015, 03:50:36 am
Am happy to continue my great job :D