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Title: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: sJimmy on February 07, 2015, 02:58:30 am
Rebellion

When the newly appointed Governor of the North from the Legionaries provinces in the Steppe region; He quickly installed training to the Barbarian and Knightly warriors to organize and supplies for the War Bands of the North. He was met with swift opposition in deadlocking the whole Kingdom with insults and incompetence’s rain high from the Knightly warriors. The old Legionary Knight form old times past could not believe his eyes and ears. So this old Legionary Knight from old times past, talked to the King of the North and suggested that in order to quell the insane, that he the old one should step down as Governor and become Chancellor to the King. Then things turned to worse. The might warriors from the Legionaries provinces where be treated with disrespect but not only that, they could no longer stand the incompetence form the Knightly warriors, having killed off three thousand men that could have been used for the front lines in battle. Then, these Knightly warriors attacked an ally of the Legionaries and took land of their ally. The Legionaries could no longer stand by with this forced treaty that the King had forced upon the men of the Steppe by everything that had happened and by that the brave Legionaries knowing they would rather die a free man than slave, decreed it wanted its freedom back!

Ravens Sent

The Imperator, now called Emperor-King for its dark ages of this Fifth Age that never ends, called all Loyal Retainers to the Crown to fight for the Royal Blood line of the famed Warrior Prince. Then, the Emperor-King sent ravens into the land to anyone not affected by the plague to come and fight by the right to party hard. To come to the Aid of the Emperor-King from days of past. The Emperor-King sent a raven to Legate and Sage. Upon receiving the raven the Legate and Sage read what was said, he had just received orders to attack. Realizing that Glory’s battle shall take place and commences. The outcome of the region is at stake in this march of attack, one shall stand one shall fall. A final message was read, Victory or Death!

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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 07, 2015, 07:22:41 am
Bryggan heard the news and shrugged.  'My own bloody fault for trusting people', he thought.  He had tried making people work together, hoping to make them focus on RP and maps and strategy rather than personal feelings.  He had failed.  'Fuck this land,' he figured, 'Kingship is for people who hate and mistrust.  I foolishly gave my word sJimmy could be trusted, and now i know my word is false.'

He considered fighting.  But he had given his word.  In fact the words came back clearly to him- "Jimmy', he had said, "Do you know why I trust you?  It is because if you ever betray me, I will quit.  And I will ask everyone that will listen to me to quit as well.  You can have your empire, but it will be an empty one.'

And so Bryggan spoke, and so Bryggan must act.  He quietly packed up some precious gems and plenty of beer, then snuck out of Curaw.  'Leave them to their own fate'.  Then he rode off.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Dutchydave on February 07, 2015, 02:57:29 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88y4ttqaW6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTxPlUnDQ1U
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 07, 2015, 05:08:44 pm
I will not give up, I don't know the meaning of quit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11-37Me_a4
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: StonedSteel on February 07, 2015, 09:37:04 pm
ROFLMFAO

WTF IS GOING ON?

i dont understand any of this lol
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on February 08, 2015, 02:21:21 am
I go and see ONE play and everything goes to shit. Bring back Kingdom of the North  :(
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Taser on February 08, 2015, 03:03:52 am
Quote from: King_Tristan_of_Erzoth on February 08, 2015, 02:21:21 am
I go and see ONE play and everything goes to shit. Bring back Kingdom of the North  :(

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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Dutchydave on February 08, 2015, 03:35:23 am
LAME, LAME, LAME! SHAME, SHAME, SHAME!

Somehow Acre had access to my roster and take everyone off with 2mins to go. That is as lame as it gets if you ask me. Pity you are so incompetent that you cant even sabotage a roster when you have access and want to do such a low act.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 08, 2015, 08:37:32 am
The truth of Jimmy's treachery revealed! How scandalous! How could you do it Jimmy, how?!?!?!

Bryggan: though [those] cursed with iron hats with aventail- I will never forgive Jimmy for looming those
Bryggan: I mean wtf!
Bryggan: barbaric armour with gay ass french helms?

Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 08, 2015, 09:29:55 am
Dammit Jona, that was a private conversation I thought.  What next?  Are you going to publish those duets we did of 'Islands in the Stream' too?  But, a little background- I did say I was not mad about sJimmy's treachery, but what really pissed me off was them damn iron top hats- with no monocle, I might add.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 08, 2015, 09:56:36 am
By the way, rebels rebel on their own.  Traitors work in concert with an enemy.  So these fellows are treacherous, not rebellious.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on February 08, 2015, 05:00:08 pm
Quote from: Bryggan on February 08, 2015, 09:56:36 am
By the way, rebels rebel on their own.  Traitors work in concert with an enemy.  So these fellows are treacherous, not rebellious.

Not true. Rebels look for ways to secure their own homeland.  Such as when the Irish during their efforts to rebel circa 1914-1916 accepted some weapons shipments from German U-boats so they'd have a chance fighting against the Brits.  Perhaps they were tired of dying by the thousands in another one of england's wars. Rebels, over the course of history have looked for outside help because usually they are under-powered compared to the state they are fighting. Oh, like the American Revolution seeking aid from the French against the British. Usually though, the minds of the authority that is being rebelled against, rebels are ALWAYS traitors. In the case of those who rebels, they both won so they get to call themselves rebels and later a sovereign state  instead of traitors.   Rebels who don't succeed merely continue to be rebels at best, traitors and malcontents more likely.

As for Duchy, we gave them supplied them with nothing.  We did coordinate our attacks so that the effect would be overwhelming. This is just sound strategic planning.

I also have to commend those in Acre and 13th K who chose to fought. You earned great honor in my opinion doing so.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: sJimmy on February 09, 2015, 05:22:42 am
The Rebels have been deemed successful. What now happens after the Rebellion is time for terms to be made. I present to former members of the Kingdom of the North an ultimatum. To King Bryggan and his 13k band of warriors and to King James and his Crusaders of Acre and to Pope Volkwin of the Sword.

All members are to leave at once from the areas of the Steppe. They will be allowed to leave the area unharmed, but if they do not leave the area they may be attacked. Other than that, the Legionaries won’t peruse any forces into the Snow of the Tundra nor where ever they will to resettle. As long as it’s not the Steppe. A treasure of One Million Dinars of Legionaries silver shall be presented to the once “High King” Bryggan to be distributive his former subjects how he see fit shall be waiting for him when he wishes to collect. Since this dissolution of the Kingdoms of the North any factions that arise from its ashes wish to make peace may do so as long as they agree to the terms. 

Ravens have been sent to The Wardens of the North and they have responded saying what favorable terms we offer here today. And they too, may wish to send terms to the Kingdom of the North or what is left of them.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on February 09, 2015, 05:49:58 pm
Indeed. The Wardens of the North also seek peace terms that could be favorable to Acre as well as ourselves.   Right now, Acre's position in the tundra is not really fair to them. Its between two factions they have had hostile relations with, and there is not much room to expand and trade without bumping in to other people's claim.

We would be interested in looking at peace terms that could see Acre relocated to another part of the map where they could have ample room to rebuild.  Talanarsis has expressed interest in this idea too. House Stark has ample territory but is short on manpower. 

Honestly, if we as faction leaders all sat down it would be perfectly easy to redraw up the strat map as we see fit, as there are so many afk fiefs.  Acre has long been a realm under siege and thats got to be tiresome. Now is a good opportunity to change that for the sake of the game.

Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: njames89 on February 09, 2015, 09:07:06 pm
I will talk to my guys about the idea. Most find the game tiresome and pointless when we are ganked over and over by those we work with.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Novamere on February 09, 2015, 10:52:15 pm
Its funny that people attack acre the only clan really keeping the mod alive.................. They make up about 50% of whats left of the NA server you all know its true, so good job killing whats left of this dieing mod haha.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: StonedSteel on February 10, 2015, 01:23:23 am
Quote from: Novamere on February 09, 2015, 10:52:15 pm
Its funny that people attack acre the only clan really keeping the mod alive.................. They make up about 50% of whats left of the NA server you all know its true, so good job killing whats left of this dieing mod haha.

knightmare, i like you, ive always liked you. James, axeman, your both on my friends list and id enjoy gaming with you outside crpg.

acre also helped a lot of people get a start either with advice or clan membership, and yes they are the last thread keeping NA active.

that being said...FUCK ACRE

i used to support them, but after all the shit I and others have been through with Voren, and brohemoth and bravo...VEBB...
no no, FUCK ACRE, you lads completely have this coming to you. You lads wanna talk shit and think ur all that and everyone else sucks...thats fine, you talk all the talk u want, you literally have one fucking guy that can actually get a positive kd. you lads are the last people in the mod who should shit talk to and bully others.

and when every alliance u have ever been in TURNS on u...kinda spells it out for ya.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on February 10, 2015, 01:51:11 am
I dunno, I always kind of like Acre.

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The few times I've hung out on their TS were fun, they've never really been cancerous on battle or anything, and they give me sweet sweet multis. Don't see where all the hate is coming from.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Novamere on February 10, 2015, 02:27:36 am
Quote from: StonedSteel on February 10, 2015, 01:23:23 am
i used to support them, but after all the shit I and others have been through with Voren, and brohemoth and bravo...VEBB...

I dont even think Voren or Vebb or Behemoth have played in months much like me haha im talking about the post moddead Acre....
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: UnholyRolyPoly on February 10, 2015, 03:28:54 am
Quote from: njames89 on February 09, 2015, 09:07:06 pm
I will talk to my guys about the idea. Most find the game tiresome and pointless when we are ganked over and over by those we work with.

Be quiet James you silly Vagina. 
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Dutchydave on February 10, 2015, 04:00:54 am
Quote from: Novamere on February 09, 2015, 10:52:15 pm
Its funny that people attack acre the only clan really keeping the mod alive.................. They make up about 50% of whats left of the NA server you all know its true, so good job killing whats left of this dieing mod haha.

Well attacking a clan that makes up 50% of whats left seems like the obvious choice doesn't it? Or should we go for a clan that makes up 10%?
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: HappyPhantom on February 10, 2015, 04:05:55 am
Quote from: Novamere on February 09, 2015, 10:52:15 pm
Its funny that people attack acre the only clan really keeping the mod alive.................. They make up about 50% of whats left of the NA server you all know its true, so good job killing whats left of this dieing mod haha.

Please name one offensive move Acre / James made this strat. From what I recall they've just been hanging on the coat-tails of others.

Bryggan been keepin' strat alive, Acre not so much.

Feel free to correct me but...
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 10, 2015, 05:02:08 am
Quote from: HappyPhantom on February 10, 2015, 04:05:55 am
Please name one offensive move Acre / James made this strat. From what I recall they've just been hanging on the coat-tails of others.

Bryggan been keepin' strat alive, Acre not so much.

Feel free to correct me but...

I shall correct you, Happy, Acre does indeed attack. However, when they do, they use a proxy and attack at 4/5am. That is how acre do.

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3659

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3609

Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 10, 2015, 05:41:21 am
Quote from: StonedSteel on February 10, 2015, 01:23:23 am
..VEBB...

why did you have to make me remember that name
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 10, 2015, 06:29:41 am
Deleted cuz I was being a dick
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: sJimmy on February 10, 2015, 08:37:57 am
Three to four weeks ago, I told you we were going to rebel if James didn’t quit with his shenanigans. Don’t blame us for killing something that was already dead /dying, like it had at the end of strat 4. This strat 5 was supposed to end last year.  You might wish to take James’ abuse like old friends, but that doesn’t mean that the rest of us have to put up with it.

Big battles get people pump about strat, and that’s why I love it despite the social politics you have to put up with. Our plan was to attack you guys in the Steppe not to wipe you off the map. Hell, I honestly didn’t thing we would win our battles, even with the large army’s due to the fact that defenders have a big advantage and attacking is hard and one hell of a feat to pull off, takes a lot of balls. We gave the community a one night battle royal and The only reason we won is due to you guys not putting up a fight.  You say its somehow our fault for killing strat?  Don’t play the blame game.  Except for Tulga’s battle… I in all my years have never had that happen in strat, maybe a close one running on the last few minutes but coming down to the mere seconds?  That was one hell of a fight.

All in all, Acre had it coming, but playing to win and playing to wipe out somebody are two different things.   Out of respect for you and our desire to see you NOT wiped out, WotN and I were willing to talk out some sort of terms that same night the rebellion.  You refused, turned tale like a coward, and ran and denied the community to fight on your side by ordering everyone to give up.  You could have been fighting a one front war with a 5 man faction, (and again, I thought we were going to lose).  You were even offered a peace treaty with WotN, which would of prevented you from having a two front war. But you refused.  Don’t blame us for the downfall of your empire when you had ample times to save it.

The old strat players I know would have taken our reasonable offers or fought to the last man. Then again, what do I know, I’m just old.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on February 10, 2015, 11:45:38 am
Quote from: Thalion_Menelvagor on February 09, 2015, 05:49:58 pm
Honestly, if we as faction leaders all sat down it would be perfectly easy to redraw up the strat map as we see fit, as there are so many afk fiefs.  Acre has long been a realm under siege and thats got to be tiresome. Now is a good opportunity to change that for the sake of the game.

And then what? That would basically be the end of Strat if it hasn't already happened with KOTN's death.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Dutchydave on February 10, 2015, 02:43:44 pm
All I can say in one (million) sentences is:

 If Bryggan had of rallied his troops instead of throwing in the towel, then the battles last weekend would of been a different result.

 If what you claim to be "old strat" compared to  what must be new strat, I can say there is 1 major difference:

 The old leaders would never run from a battle that wasn't by their terms, they would embrace it and do all they could to prepare, they would fight out every battle to the last troop if needed.

Seriously mate I am sick of reading you whining about it all. It is borderline pathetic. It was a legit Rebellion, you keep claiming it to be treachery. There is a big difference between the two. I have tried to explain this to you many times privately.

For starters this battle:

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3246

This battle is 1 day after strat5 was ment to end(without mentioning the devs promise that strat would finish early in November), I had noticed your 2k army marching up.

Strat5 didn't end on the 15th as planned from the beginning and your attack was counted.

At this stage battles where 5v5 and not worth playing, New Sungetche Castle was heavy armed. I pm'd you and told you I couldn't be bothered with this battle, you convinced me to play this battle and I suggested a XP battle that we agreed upon. We balanced the roster and I ordered my mercs to surrender and let you cap the flags as the deal agreed upon.

 This deal was due to strat5 should of ended and all of the players who helped me held a fief in the Steppe and deserved to at the end.

Well it didn't end yet and within days your faction members broke the deal by attacking New Dirigh Aban. you responded with "I cant control Acre".

Under this circumstance based on my faction members who had all done a shit ton of grinding and hard yards to be ranked in the top 25 renown, I agreed to join your faction just to save their hard work so they could finish this strat with a fief, in the belief that strat would now end at the beginning of the festive season like every other years dedicated 2 week+ break.

This did not happen and for many reasons(not mentioning any names) I decided to start building an army again and my men went into semi action.

After several weeks of watching Acre make stupid mistakes and abuse my good friends we all decided that we must rebel if the lazy devs would not end this. For the record Acre has merc'd against my friends and me this entire map.

Nothing against Bryggan but the rebellion plans took to another level and we started making plans and speaking with Thalion about our plans to make sure we could get some mercs if we where to take on Acre.

So at this stage we gave Bryggan a 2k shiny army to do with as he pleased, I personally had not merced in any battles and neither did any of my trusted ANZACS.

When we attacked last weekend, sjimmy and myself both considered our chances to be 50/50 at best even though we convinced each other they where much higher. We had put many hours into gear selection and battle plans for the desired targets.

D Day and all attacks from all 5 members happen as planned (bloody ledgends!). this is when we expected Bryggan to rally his troops and put up rosters that would be impossible to beat in the tough targets we had chosen to attack.

OMFG Bryggan orders all troops to surrender and cancels the faction, which makes the roster care taking near impossible.

*Some how this causes a glitch and now his own members cant access the roster for New Sungetche Castle defence.

But his own faction members can access my roster for the battle.

Come battle time and 2 mins to go all mercs are taken off. One Acre member is in our ts saying stuff like "strat is dead". Lucky I get all applicants back onto the roster and we storm the castle and cap within 3mins. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3639

Saint Joke of Arc came into the LL ts claiming "Strat is dead" but asking to be on the roster. would be a safe bet to suggest he had something to do with the roster tampering and my money was he had a recording go for all of acre to laugh about, you do the maths . jokes on you
 http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3639

I personally would like him to be dealt with as deserverd by his deeds., but would like his incompetence to succeed with such an easy feat to be considered while dealing out his punishment. ( he is clearly mentally disabled :)

So Bryggan quits his own faction for everyone envolved, kills the roster support and in doing so now becomes Legionaries best asset for the upcoming 5 battles.

Then Bryggans faction loses all 5 battles and he starts whining about treachery and so on.

All you had to do was rally your troops for the awesome battles we presented you, we took on tough targets and the current merc pools would not of changed, if you rally and get even rosters to defend then most likely you hold the castle and city at least.

Your your own worst enemy by making these shit choices while pissed and ordering your faction to quit and then forfeit the faction so no one can access the rosters apart form fief owners.

Then you start passing the buck and blaming sJimmy and me for killing strat?

At the end of the day the old die hard players will still be here while you reminisce about how you fucked up.

If you want to publicly insult me or my members anymore for your mistakes I will post our private messages that proves even more then I suggest.






Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: CALAMARI on February 10, 2015, 04:12:45 pm
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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 10, 2015, 07:24:22 pm
Quote from: Dutchydave on February 10, 2015, 02:43:44 pm
All I can say in one sentence is:

If Bryggan had of rallied his troops instead of throwing in the towel, then the battles last weekend would of been a different result. If what you claim to be "old strat" compared to  what must be new strat, I can say there is 1 major difference: The old leaders would never run from a battle that wasn't by their terms, they would embrace it and do all they could to prepare, they would fight out every battle to the last troop if needed. Seriously mate I am sick of reading you whining about it all. It is borderline pathetic. It was a legit Rebellion, you keep claiming it to be treachery. There is a big difference between the two. I have tried to explain this to you many times privately. For starters this battle: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3246 This battle is 1 day after strat5 was ment to end(without mentioning the devs promise that strat would finish early in November), I had noticed your 2k army marching up. Strat5 didn't end on the 15th as planned from the beginning and your attack was counted. At this stage battles where 5v5 and not worth playing, New Sungetche Castle was heavy armed. I pm'd you and told you I couldn't be bothered with this battle, you convinced me to play this battle and I suggested a XP battle that we agreed upon. We balanced the roster and I ordered my mercs to surrender and let you cap the flags as the deal agreed upon. This deal was due to strat5 should of ended and all of the players who helped me held a fief in the Steppe and deserved to at the end. Well it didn't end yet and within days your faction members broke the deal by attacking New Dirigh Aban. you responded with "I cant control Acre". Under this circumstance based on my faction members who had all done a shit ton of grinding and hard yards to be ranked in the top 25 renown, I agreed to join your faction just to save their hard work so they could finish this strat with a fief, in the belief that strat would now end at the beginning of the festive season like every other years dedicated 2 week+ break. This did not happen and for many reasons(not mentioning any names) I decided to start building an army again and my men went into semi action. After several weeks of watching Acre make stupid mistakes and abuse my good friends we all decided that we must rebel if the lazy devs would not end this. For the record Acre has merc'd against my friends and me this entire map. Nothing against Bryggan but the rebellion plans took to another level and we started making plans and speaking with Thalion about our plans to make sure we could get some mercs if we where to take on Acre. So at this stage we gave Bryggan a 2k shiny army to do with as he pleased, I personally had not merced in any battles and neither did any of my trusted ANZACS. When we attacked last weekend, sjimmy and myself both considered our chances to be 50/50 at best even though we convinced each other they where much higher. We had put many hours into gear selection and battle plans for the desired targets. D Day and all attacks from all 5 members happen as planned (bloody ledgends!). this is when we expected Bryggan to rally his troops and put up rosters that would be impossible to beat in the tough targets we had chosen to attack. OMFG Bryggan orders all troops to surrender and cancels the faction, which makes the roster care taking near impossible.  *Some how this causes a glitch and now his own members cant access the roster for New Sungetche Castle defence.  But his own faction members can access my roster for the battle. Come battle time and 2 mins to go all mercs are taken off. One Acre member is in our ts saying stuff like "strat is dead". Lucky I get all applicants back onto the roster and we storm the castle and cap within 3mins. http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3639 Saint Joke of Arc came into the LL ts claiming "Strat is dead" but asking to be on the roster. would be a safe bet to suggest he had something to do with the roster tampering and my money was he had a recording go for all of acre to laugh about, you do the maths . jokes on you http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3639 I personally would like him to be dealt with as deserverd by his deeds., but would like his incompetence to succeed with such an easy feat to be considered while dealing out his punishment. ( he is clearly mentally disabled :) So Bryggan quits his own faction for everyone envolved, kills the roster support and in doing so now becomes Legionaries best asset for the upcoming 5 battles. Then Bryggans faction loses all 5 battles and he starts whining about treachery and so on. FUCK YOU MATE YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON All you had to do was rally your troops for the awesome battles we presented you, we took on tough targets and the current merc pools would not of changed, if you rally and get even rosters to defend then most likely you hold the castle and city at least. Your your own worst enemy by making these shit choices while pissed and ordering your faction to quit and then forfeit the faction so no one can access the rosters apart form fief owners. Then you start passing the buck and blaming sJimmy and me for killing strat? Your a fucking idiot. At the end of the day the old die hard players will still be here while you reminisce about how you fucked up. If you want to publicly insult me or my members anymore for your mistakes I will post our private messages that proves even more then I suggest.

dude that is way more than one sentence

This is the way the world strat ends, not with a whimper but with a bang.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: HappyPhantom on February 10, 2015, 09:03:49 pm
Quote from: WITCHCRAFT on February 10, 2015, 07:24:22 pm
dude that is way more than one sentence

This is the way the world strat ends, not with a whimper but with a bang.

Where is Kesh when we need him? - He may not be the hero we need, but surely is the (anti)hero we all deserve.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 11, 2015, 05:52:23 am
I apologize to Dutchy.  My last post (which I deleted) was to vilify them and make me look like the hero. In hindsight, I may be a bit more of an asshole than I thought.  In fact I must come across as two faced.  The other day, me and dutchy chatted til 4 am my time.  Which sux, cuz I gotta go to work at 7:00 am.  But we got along, had fun, and everything seemed cool- til I wrote that awful piece.  To make me look good.  Which it didn't.  In fact, it made me look worse.

But I will admit I was being a dickass.  I did not read all of Dutchy's response, because I was beating myself up enough already.

But I thought about it.

A) The rebellion was legit, but I wish they told me about it.  The sad thing is, everytime they told me they were not happy, we talked in TS.  And, as I mentioned, when you are actually talking to a person, its tough to make the hard decisions.  In messages you can say whatever according to your character, but in TS you are yourself, and you're chatting with buds, and it is damn hard to say you are switching sides.

B)I had no idea what the strength of the Wardens are.  I do like to keep things equal.  While I knew we had more players then them, not all were 'very active'.  But I swear, if I knew we outnumbered them to much, I would advise people to join them.

C) Despite what I said, I did take the treachery rebellion personal.  I really wanted old enemies to work together.  I wanted everyone to be buds.  So when things did not go my way, I did cry like a little baby.  I took my ball and went home.  I think that is what pisses me off the most, the fact that I was the dick.

So, in hindsight, especially after talking to my good frenemies, who kindly pointed out the errors of my ways, I realize I was a little bit pissy. And by a little bit, I mean a lot. 

So I guess I'm saying sorry for being a dick.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Nightingale on February 11, 2015, 08:34:26 am
Oddly enough we still love and respect you for the things you bring/brought to the table this strat.Despite you throwing in the white flag.

Ultimately it is not anyone other than your own choice; if this is the end or not. Either way it was a pleasure Bryggan.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 12, 2015, 04:12:26 am
Jona I need to correct You on your statement, You where attacked by Krift who has no affiliation to Acre at all so why would you say we did that. and i don't think he even knows how to play, every time i fought him or signed up for a battle only the first person is signed up so next time you try to correct someone know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 12, 2015, 04:33:15 am
You see, there wasn't only one person that got signed for him. Both times he attacked there were two mercs on his side... meaning he was well aware of how to recruit mercs.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 12, 2015, 04:12:26 am
next time you try to correct someone know what you are talking about.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 12, 2015, 06:10:45 am
Oh I when i signed for him  i was the only one who showed up, When I checked before the Battle I was the only one, Also when I fought him there was only one person so I was wrong on him not knowing how o play but he has nothing to do with Acre. we don't even know who he is
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Nightingale on February 12, 2015, 10:53:57 pm
Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 12, 2015, 06:10:45 am
Oh I when i signed for him  i was the only one who showed up, When I checked before the Battle I was the only one, Also when I fought him there was only one person so I was wrong on him not knowing how o play but he has nothing to do with Acre. we don't even know who he is

uh huh...

That is exactly what a person would say; if they knew someone but were keeping it secret to try to hide affiliation. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 03:10:22 am
Really that is your argument. That is what an elementary student would say to another kid justifying why he thinks he is a Narc. Only a Narc would say they are not a Narc. That is the stupidest argument some one could say. Come up with something better, and i don't have time for that childish argument. But I can tell you that Krift has nothing to do with Acre and None of my Acre Comrades have no idea who he is. so that is the end of this conversation, Take it as it is or don't; that does not matter to me either way.   
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Sharpe on February 13, 2015, 04:01:18 am
Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 03:10:22 am
Really that is your argument. That is what an elementary student would say to another kid justifying why he thinks he is a Narc. Only a Narc would say they are not a Narc. That is the stupidest argument some one could say. Come up with something better, and i don't have time for that childish argument. But I can tell you that Krift has nothing to do with Acre and None of my Acre Comrades have no idea who he is. so that is the end of this conversation, Take it as it is or don't; that does not matter to me either way.

And people who get this defensive are typically guilty of the accused act.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 13, 2015, 04:16:19 am
Quote from: Sharpe on February 13, 2015, 04:01:18 am
And people who get this defensive are typically guilty of the accused act.

..and when telling lies are bound to mess up.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 03:10:22 am
None of my Acre Comrades have no idea who he is.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lt_Anders on February 13, 2015, 04:43:51 am
My dick is big and throbbing right now.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
You know it was quite Convenient that I attacked Krift and then all of a sudden you guys had your armies ready to pounce on me so who is Krift working for. why would you attack me after I attack Krift now answer that question. then after that i get a sneak attack from Krift at 4am and loose my army and had to rebuild, and you guys had nothing to do with that. sure. Your armies and the rebels where conveniently all ready to go. Yes I signed up for one of his battles but that was before he attacked me. so I attacked him back. then after that you guys attacked me, why would you attack me after that, that is the question. I can just as easily say Krift is with the Wardens. and Jona just posted the attacks to try falsely blame some other clan, and I can use the same quotes as you, but I know he is not with Acre. and another thing I have noticed is that he has never shown up for his battles. and another thing that I'm going to call you out on is not only is Krift not with Acre, You complained about him attacking you at 4am also and said that was wrong but if I do recall I was attacked by the Wardens at 4 am and 6am at one point and you don't see me complaining, little doubled standard don't you think.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Sharpe on February 13, 2015, 05:37:42 am
Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
You know it was quite Convenient that I attacked Krift and then all of a sudden you guys had your armies ready to pounce on me so who is Krift working for. why would you attack me after I attack Krift now answer that question. then after that i get a sneak attack from Krift at 4am and loose my army and had to rebuild, and you guys had nothing to do with that. sure. Your armies and the rebels where conveniently all ready to go. Yes I signed up for one of his battles but that was before he attacked me. so I attacked him back. then after that you guys attacked me, why would you attack me after that, that is the question. I can just as easily say Krift is with the Wardens. and Jona just posted the attacks to try falsely blame some other clan, and I can use the same quotes as you, but I know he is not with Acre. and another thing I have noticed is that he has never shown up for his battles. and another thing that I'm going to call you out on is not only is Krift not with Acre, You complained about him attacking you at 4am also and said that was wrong but if I do recall I was attacked by the Wardens at 4 am and 6am at one point and you don't see me complaining, little doubled standard don't you think.

I don't feel as if that is "doubled standard" or that its even a double standard, do you not understand how night time settings work on strategus? The only reason why you would postulate that Krift is with the Wardens is because you have nothing else to say. I guess it really does matter to you.

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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on February 13, 2015, 05:38:25 am
Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
You know it was quite Convenient that I attacked Krift and then all of a sudden you guys had your armies ready to pounce on me so who is Krift working for. why would you attack me after I attack Krift now answer that question. then after that i get a sneak attack from Krift at 4am and loose my army and had to rebuild, and you guys had nothing to do with that. sure. Your armies and the rebels where conveniently all ready to go. Yes I signed up for one of his battles but that was before he attacked me. so I attacked him back. then after that you guys attacked me, why would you attack me after that, that is the question. I can just as easily say Krift is with the Wardens. and Jona just posted the attacks to try falsely blame some other clan, and I can use the same quotes as you, but I know he is not with Acre. and another thing I have noticed is that he has never shown up for his battles. and another thing that I'm going to call you out on is not only is Krift not with Acre, You complained about him attacking you at 4am also and said that was wrong but if I do recall I was attacked by the Wardens at 4 am and 6am at one point and you don't see me complaining, little doubled standard don't you think.

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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 06:12:37 am
So you don't think you complaining about something that you your self do, and yes I do know how night time settings work, and I'm not the one complaining about it, and yes maybe I do care because it just erks me that people state things they dont know anything about, and the only reason i say Krift is working for the wardens is because after I attacked Krift the Wardens attacked me, why else would the wardens attack me without reason. to me that makes no sense. to me that is reason enough to say he is with Wardens, but on the other hand the Wardens did Wipe him out.  now that I think of it, Damn I just need to just typing what I think. well anyways now that I think of it it would not make sense on him working with the Wardens. ok now i am talking on things that i have no idea about.  who is to say he is working for anybody, who is to say he just did not appear and started attacking random people. maybe all this he did it she did bull crap is just a waste of our times. or maybe I just don't need to write in the Forums when I had a little to much to drink. well I guess this is done don't know what else say, and really I don't know why i'm arguing this thing, maybe it could be the beer maybe not. really I need to stop well Bye Every one I'll be sober in the morning.   
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 13, 2015, 06:19:12 am
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Wow... I was trying to keep it relatively simple and go easy on you since you're new here, but you just don't know when to quit.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
You know it was quite Convenient that I attacked Krift and then all of a sudden you guys had your armies ready to pounce on me so who is Krift working for. why would you attack me after I attack Krift now answer that question.

Well you see, we had a cease fire agreement going on so each faction could rebuild a little and we were about to get the war on the way again, and then our fief got attacked by some "random" guy at a time where none of our mercs could make it. Seeing how each battle takes 24 hours to initiate, we had plenty of time to move an army from the oh-so-close Ismirala to retake it. But lo and behold, before our army could even get there, you had already initiated an attack on that village, as if you knew it were going to happen and prepared in advance. Seeing how we had a cease fire agreement, there were to be no hostilities between the WotN and the KotN. Yet you went and pulled your little stunt by instantly attacking one of our fiefs as soon as it was taken by someone else. Sure, it was not a direct attack on us, however it was quite the sleazy move. So, upon seeing what transpired, I told Thalion "Cease fire or not, I'm going to retake this village" at which point he nicely decided to post our intentions on the forums letting Bryggan know the cease fire was now over.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
then after that i get a sneak attack from Krift at 4am and loose my army and had to rebuild, and you guys had nothing to do with that. sure. ... Yes I signed up for one of his battles but that was before he attacked me. so I attacked him back. then after that you guys attacked me, why would you attack me after that, that is the question. I can just as easily say Krift is with the Wardens.

Bahahaha... now this is just rich. You see pal, there is an archive of every battle that has happened this strat on the crpg website, and it is particularly helpful when someone tries to blatantly bullshit. Krift never attacked you, and he was in fact only directly involved in 3 battles this strat. Two of which were him attacking us at Nova Rebache, and the third was when we attacked him to send him off to EU so we don't have to worry about his sneak attacks every week. Why would we attack you after you took the fief that was mine but a day ago? Hmm... maybe to get it back? And do I really need to answer why you shouldn't say krift is in the Wardens? Well, for starters, he has attacked us, twice now. Not to be confused with attacking you, since, apparently you can't tell who is who all that well. Not only that, but even AFTER you guys attacked him, causing this "random" guy to lose his only fief, he still signed up for you guys, against us, in this battle: http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattleroster&id=3631

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
Your armies and the rebels where conveniently all ready to go.

Of course we were. We were currently in an about-to-end cease fire whilst at war. The whole point of the cease fire was to give each faction time to build armies.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
and another thing I have noticed is that he has never shown up for his battles.

Perhaps he hasn't, but let me remind you that you were the only one to sign up FOR him, thus making him take our fief in the first place. You signed up for him during our cease fire, don't forget. Also, while he hasn't made his own battles, he made sure to fight in Acre's.

Quote from: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 05:29:31 am
You complained about him attacking you at 4am also and said that was wrong but if I do recall I was attacked by the Wardens at 4 am and 6am at one point and you don't see me complaining, little doubled standard don't you think.

You remember that handy battle archive I pointed out earlier? Use it. Go ahead and find me a battle where the Wardens attacked you at 4 or 6am.

EDIT:

Wait... kids can get tipsy off of diet mountain dew nowadays? That's news to me. At least you finally realize that having the Wardens hire krift to attack us so we can attack you so we can retake our village only to get attacked by him again would have been really, really bad planning on our behalf.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 06:34:31 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3038
And the 4am was done before this date and it does not go farther than that.
and also if Krift did not attack me then how did I loose my army just marching.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 06:46:12 am
man thanks for showing me the archives, Your right I was not attacked by Krift, what I am confused about is how I lost my Army then, I dont see an attack on me from any body and I was not in any cities i was right on the bridge and krift was close and attacking Nova Robache  I just assumed that he attacked me. forgive me I am new to this forum thing to and I dont Know my way around quite yet, and I see that he did fight in a battle. so I can play the game Better could you explain to me how i lost my army. I have enough money.can you lose them in the water, I was warned not to cross the water and i might have gone to close.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 06:51:56 am
WOW! I just now just realized that the person who attacked me at 6 am is now part of Acre, they where not at that time. I am sorry I accused you guy of that I really thought it was you guys and quite Honest I could be wrong about the 4am fight too, I was attacked at that time me seeing that I was wrong about 6am battle makes me wounder and it was in early Nov, so I could be wrong. but I am not wrong about Krift.

I was not attacked at 4am and it I who attacked Nova Robach at a decent hour, I was totally wrong about it.

man I complain about other people not knowing what they are talking about and look here I also made false claims, I am sorry I was wrong on that. man there is alot to learn from this game
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Jona on February 13, 2015, 07:01:46 am
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Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 07:04:25 am
Please accept my apologies on accusing you about attacking me early in the morning.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Lord Camulos on February 13, 2015, 07:18:19 am
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=3552
Here is another battle i found Krift in and he was against us he was on the side of the squids.
We might never know about this guy, now I can't sleep due to the fact I want to know. I have a hard time letting things go and don't like the fact i don't know things, its almost like anxiety when I can't make sense of things, so please excuse me for my ramblings.  And FYI you did not need to make an insult at me that I am a Kid, I have not insulted you that was wrong of you, one because I am a man not a kid.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Taser on February 13, 2015, 09:02:26 am
Quote from: Havelle Registered Voter on February 13, 2015, 07:42:03 am
Yes hello, I am a humble knight of Acre and we've been working with Krift all along and we're going to do other stuff too that will make you guys mad, too. You just wait.

Here are my credentials.
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I wasn't going to believe you then I saw those credentials.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Nightingale on February 13, 2015, 09:15:02 am
I was kidding... but okay.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Krift on February 13, 2015, 01:57:06 pm
LOL you guys are all retarded you Acre crap and You Wardens Sh%ts I am laughing my ass off right now at you two on just me attacking a village. Just too funny, well have at it and keep wasting your time you idiots.

Juggalo's for Life
WHOOP WHOOP
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Havelle on February 13, 2015, 02:35:50 pm
Quote from: Krift on February 13, 2015, 01:57:06 pm
LOL you guys are all retarded you Acre crap and You Wardens Sh%ts I am laughing my ass off right now at you two on just me attacking a village. Just too funny, well have at it and keep wasting your time you idiots.

Juggalo's for Life
WHOOP WHOOP

I'm the real Havelle and he's right. We know nothing about this guy stop asking idk why you'd even do that.
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Sharpe on February 13, 2015, 07:27:34 pm
Quote from: Krift on February 13, 2015, 01:57:06 pm
LOL you guys are all retarded you Acre crap and You Wardens Sh%ts I am laughing my ass off right now at you two on just me attacking a village. Just too funny, well have at it and keep wasting your time you idiots.

Juggalo's for Life
WHOOP WHOOP

Juggaho
Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Bryggan on February 14, 2015, 01:11:39 am
Gramhur natseez

Title: Re: Rebels in the Steppe
Post by: Thalion_Menelvagor on February 14, 2015, 06:58:02 pm
Bryggan,

You will always be remembered favorably in my book. You started out with a dream of a kingdom, and through might of will and sword you forged it into a cohesive nation for a length of time. You waged war and fought toe to toe in hard battles. Good job.  What other accolades await your legacy are for you to decide. 



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