I'm curious as to the role of bikes in other nations represented on this forum?
What do people do without a bycicle when they want to visit a friend who lives 3 km away in a city, walk?Car, public transport, maybe walk.
People on bikes are pretty nuts though, going past you at 50km/h where a slight step to the side woulde made them run into you. Bicycles are nice sure, but the ones riding them can be fucking crazy. Fuck bikes.Well, in Dutchland and I presume Daneland too, many roads have a bike path seperated from the main road with lines at least. These are considered roads as much as real roads and pedestrians know not to walk on them without looking both ways. 50 km/h is pretty fast though, even for a racing bike. I presume we are mostly discussing basic utility bikes, which average like 20 km/h. Or 30 km/h if you are always in a rush like me.
http://vimeo.com/109273337
I fucking hate cyclists...
http://vimeo.com/109273337
I fucking hate cyclists...
Yes, because it was the cyclists fault here right and not the car that almost ran him over AT A CROSSING?
Don't you have seperated lanes for bikes in Sweden, Gravoth? I've actually never thought to look when visiting.
Poor judgement on the part of the cyclist (and the gigglin + finger would have earned him vehicular manslaughter from me)The cyclist was indicating that he was going to turn left, which is the same as a left indicator and it is the driver's fault not realising and giving him way, since he was in a crossing. The cyclist should have noticed and been more careful though too. The stopping and being an ass afterwards because of the horn was retarded though, I agree.
Poor judgement on the part of the cyclist (and the gigglin + finger would have earned him vehicular manslaughter from me)
The cyclist was indicating that he was going to turn left, which is the same as a left indicator and it is the driver's fault not realising and giving him way, since he was in a crossing. The cyclist should have noticed and been more careful though too. The stopping and being an ass afterwards because of the horn was retarded though, I agree.Thing is tho that here in Sweden and I guess it's the same in Finland as well is that you have to let the cars pass if you want to ride your bike over a crossing, if you on the other hand dismount the bike and walk over he has to stop. So here it was the cyclist fault, assuming Finland have the same rules ofc
Just a bunch of bad manners and practices put together...
And yeah Teeth, in Spain either there are either no bicycle paths, or poorly designed ones. It is also a fairly mountainous country, which doesn't help either.
Thing is tho that here in Sweden and I guess it's the same in Finland as well is that you have to let the cars pass if you want to ride your bike over a crossing, if you on the other hand dismount the bike and walk over he has to stop. So here it was the cyclist fault, assuming Finland have the same rules ofchuh the bit of the crossing without the lines painted (closer to the car in this case) is the signal for a crossing for cyclists, at least in Spain, whereas the one with the stripes is the pedestrian one (zebra crossing).
http://vimeo.com/109273337
I fucking hate cyclists...
I'm pretty sure we dont, atleast not in my small city and i doubt the bigger has it either. Sidewalks are for both cyclists and walking my old friendets.Really, cyclists are supposed to use sidewalks in Sweden?
Not even in Dutchland do cars have to give way to cyclists at a bike crossing, unless specifically indicated.
Really, cyclists are supposed to use sidewalks in Sweden?
Yes, because it was the cyclists fault here right and not the car that almost ran him over AT A CROSSING?Actually it´s a bit more complicated than that here in Finland. Bicycles count as vehicles, thus they must follow the same rules as any other vehicles while driving. Crossing does not give cyclist right to go first by default. In that videos situation it´s hard to say which is right since cyclist is TURNING left(turning vehicles will give way to vehicles not turning unless indicated otherwise), thus he must give way to cars.
Yeah thats definitely all on the car driver, the guy even clearly signals that he's about to turn.Does not matter, car has priority.
It's HORRIBLE. However, different cities and states in the United States are drastically different. I've been to smaller cities in cooler climates where most of the population or at least half seems to bike. I wish everyone rode bikes, but most people drive cars, and it's a harsh world for a cyclist. They operate on schedules that assume you can drive everywhere, to the point that my bosses are trying to pressure me into buying a second car.
The best thing about bikes is that you can still drive them whilst being incredibly drunk
I don't know if this is national or state law but at least around here you can get a DUI for biking drunk.
One night I'm going to get hit-and-run smeared and I will vanish from these forums without a trace. :|
The best thing about bikes is that you can still drive them whilst being incredibly drunk
People on bikes are pretty nuts though, going past you at 50km/h where a slight step to the side woulde made them run into you. Bicycles are nice sure, but the ones riding them can be fucking crazy. Fuck bikes.
Does not matter, car has priority.that sign is one of these two, left one means "road has priority, every road that connects this road have not". Right one means that priority ends. Basically it just means that those on priority road won´t give way to those connecting to it, including cyclists since they count as vehicle.(click to show/hide)
haha and what about Car drivers? I'm pretty sure you'd prefer to get hit by a bike at 50km/h than by a car :lol:
Being Dutch I couldn't imagine what my life or our cities would look like without bicycles. It's like 4 times faster than walking and in cities they are usually faster than buses too, not to mention way more flexible. All the way from being like 4 years old until when I will have an income high enough to sustain a car, it is an integral part of how I get around and probably after that for short distances or city life.
What do people do without a bycicle when they want to visit a friend who lives 3 km away in a city, walk?
http://vimeo.com/109273337
I fucking hate cyclists...
He gave a signal. It was entirely the car drivers fault. Poor judgement? No, just too much trust in retarded car drivers to stop when they should stop.
I don't know if this is national or state law but at least around here you can get a DUI for biking drunk.
Being Dutch I couldn't imagine what my life or our cities would look like without bicycles. It's like 4 times faster than walking and in cities they are usually faster than buses too, not to mention way more flexible. All the way from being like 4 years old until when I will have an income high enough to sustain a car, it is an integral part of how I get around and probably after that for short distances or city life.
What do people do without a bycicle when they want to visit a friend who lives 3 km away in a city, walk?
Nvm, i rewatched the video, actually the cyclist is right, because there are the white squares on the road close to the zebra crossing. "white squares" at a crossing have the same value of this road sign(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
Yes, because it was the cyclists fault here right and not the car that almost ran him over AT A CROSSING?
According to the traffic code( i guess it's the same in Finland too), the cyclist in the video should have stopped and dismount from the bike; that was a pedestrian crossing and not a pedestrian-bike crossing. In order to be allowed to do what the cyclist did, this road sign must be present at the crossing :arrow:which means cyclists can cross the road without dismounting and cars must give them priority(click to show/hide)
Nvm, i rewatched the video, actually the cyclist is right, because there are the white squares on the road close to the zebra crossing. "white squares" at a crossing have the same value of this road sign(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
I have never seen before the "white squares" meaning bike-crossing without the vertical road sign.(click to show/hide)
So do you guys wear helmets when riding your bikes?
Seems to me that there's way more hate for people who don't, or at least people who wear helmets care a lot more about the fact that some people don't. I used to ride a bike to college every day, and never saw the need. If you don't go over roads at full speed and have decent reflexes/know how to fall, there's no more reason to wear one than when walking.
So do you guys wear helmets when riding your bikes?
It's probably smart to wear a helmet just in case there's a ledge right there to plant your head on when you fall, but I don't and I cycle to work every day (it's not far, but still).Would have to be going really stupidly fast though to not be able to get my hands in front of me, or at least take the impact with my shoulder. If you put your chin down and your shoulders up, the only way your head is taking the impact is if you don't twist at all and headbutt the ground straight-on. So for everyday stuff, I don't think a helmet necessary at all. If you do some extreme mountain biking at high speeds, then it's probably a good idea.
So do you guys wear helmets when riding your bikes?
Seems to me that there's way more hate for people who don't, or at least people who wear helmets care a lot more about the fact that some people don't. I used to ride a bike to college every day, and never saw the need. If you don't go over roads at full speed and have decent reflexes/know how to fall, there's no more reason to wear one than when walking.
Funny thing is, I've had repeats of that accident whilst doing downhill off road runs and come out with barely a scratch and not a dent in my helmet.oni takes 1 accident to kill you, better to be safe
I always wear a helmet. It's saved my life once before so I do think people who don't wear them are stupid. I came off my bike over the handle bars and face planted the ground. Bit through my top lip and smashed the entire front of my helmet. Doctors were convinced without the helmet I'd have been dead. Fortunately only needed stitches to put my lip back together. That was on a road and wasn't doing anything dumb ect. Just a random accident.Good for you for wearing a helmet, but why do you think people who don't wear them are stupid? If you weren't going 70 mph downhill, then how do you faceplant the ground when coming over the handle bars? If you know your physical limitations, then wearing a helmet is smart -- but realize that there are people with better reflexes and who know how to fall safely. It's like someone who keeps falling when walking and cracking his bones calling people not wearing a full safety gear while walking stupid.
It also depends where you're cycling. In Brighton the route I cycle now is all cycle paths on the pavement so there's little need. I still do just to make sure. But when I used to cycle to uni the cycle paths were on the road and more than once I've almost been knocked off by buses (fing public transport) so I always did then.If you got at reasonable speeds in intersections etc., the danger is really no different to walking.
Yes indeed cyclist has right to USE the crossing because of those dots. Still that doesn´t mean that he´d have a priority while crossing; cyclists who wish to cross a road by using crossing must still give way to normal traffic since bicycles are vehicles. Thus that cyclist is still an asshole.
Lars this video is from Helsinki, Finland. We don't have the laws that you state you have in the "traffic code".
I don't want to make 3rd post so well:CROSSWALK "SUOJATIE"/shitty translation
Finnish traffic code orders vehicle's driver to give way for pedestrian who are on the crosswalk or about to step on it. Vehicle's driver has to give way for cyclists or moped when the vehicle's driver has a ?Yield sign? or vehicle's driver is about to turn over the crosswalk. Cyclist who has got out from its bike has to be treated like a pedestrian. If there's a vehicle parked or a vehicle has stopped right before the crosswalk, driver has to stop before the crosswalk before driving over it.
It would've been the cyclist fucking fault. The cyclist was a fucking idiot for giving the giggle and finger afterwards. End of the fucking discussion about that particular video.Here you go, a random video from youtube
Now start arguing about whose fault it was and implement laws relating to this situation. HOWEVER, IN ANY CASE. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. DO NOT CHECK IF THE LAWS APPLY TO THE COUNTRY WHERE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED!(click to show/hide)
So do you guys wear helmets when riding your bikes?
climbing up and coasting down hilly back streets under orange sodium street lamps...
And how many of you use 'clipless pedals'?
I hope it's a 70s bicycle.