Ruskies speak english?
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Strange, are we not even in the top 60? I dont know a single person below 40 that doesent speak English, and most young people speak it very fluently. And we are a tourist country so its a must on the coast. I guess Croatia just isnt relevant :oops:
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English proficiency index - it's supposed to be the world's largest ranking of English skills. And has some weird numbers, Poland better than Belgium and Germany, RUssia better than Italy. Ruskies speak english?
Not surprised Sweden, Norway and Netherlands are top 3. But Finland got the 7th spot? Lol not sure if srs.Finland ranked third behind Denmark and Norway, and ahead of Sweden, in one test measuring vocabulary levels. Belgium was fifth.
Also lmao at China and Russia speaking better English than Turkey.
It's a good thing I learned a bit Italiano in past six months.you did good , even our prime minister is quite poor in english but the scary fact is a good 30% of the population don't even know italian very well .
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English proficiency index - it's supposed to be the world's largest ranking of English skills. And has some weird numbers, Poland better than Belgium and Germany, RUssia better than Italy. Ruskies speak english?
How was this chart made?
Methodology
The EF EPI third edition was calculated using test data from 750,000 test takers in 2012. The test takers were self-selected and no demographic information was collected on them. The tests are used by the company for marketing and placement purposes. 58 countries and 2 territories appear in the third edition of the index. In order to be included a country was required to have at least 400 test takers total.
How was this chrat made?
No Philippines in top 20, wtf? It's their second official language.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EF_English_Proficiency_Index#Methodology
400 self-selected (not to mention no demographic information, so might not even be representative of the country concerned in the first place) is not exactly a reliable sample in my opinion. The self-selected part in particular is kiss of death as far as I'm concerned.
Still, seems relatively accurate, despite the methodology fails.
Ruskies speak english?-Hello
Thats a joke,isnt it?You should hear my classmates talking english...
no america
why even bother reading
Should have heard my teacher back at school, the american exchange students only found out after asking that he was speaking english.Haha, must've been a pretty funny scenario. Awkward for the teacher, especially.
It did need to be do.(click to show/hide)
I'm not surprised that Germanic-speaking countries are in 1st positions ( Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark etcc...), if i had studied French or any other Neo-Latin language at school, i guess nowadays i would probably have a solid B2 or higher level in that language.Probably not as your exposure to English is much greater than the exposure to for example French, even if you are from Italy(?). As a Dutch guy I am fairly sure it is the constant exposure to non-dubbed or untranslated English media from a very young age that teaches us English, the similarity between the languages and the school curriculum would hardly amount to anything without it.
With a rich local culture, not importing excessively of foreign cultures is not an entirely bad policy. Turn on the TV and don't tell me you aren't drowning in American television in Sweden.The sooner everybody just sticks their dumb nationalistic pride up their ass and starts learning English aside their native tongue, the better. There's really not that much to lose and there is so much to gain.
It feels good speaking the language that everyone else in the world has to learn.
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With a rich local culture, not importing excessively of foreign cultures is not an entirely bad policy. Turn on the TV and don't tell me you aren't drowning in American television in Sweden.
You mean the one 'muricans can't speak due to an abysmal education system. There's the unchecked immigration to consider as well.
English as a second language by 2020, calling it
I learned english by being on PCs for 5 years.Does this count?
That really depends on what the source material is, and if the two languages are compatible.
I could be wrong but the tree romance languages for an example, they have to be at least somewhat compatible like this.
It feels good speaking the language that everyone else in the world has to learn.Problem with that is that many Brits and Americans don't get that extra language for free, compared to much of the multilingual world. Many also do not learn an extra language in school in these countries, where most Europeans learn a third or fourth language, even just in high school.(click to show/hide)
Problem with that is that many Brits and Americans don't get that extra language for free, compared to much of the multilingual world. Many also do not learn an extra language in school in these countries, where most Europeans learn a third or fourth language, even just in high school.Yep, and I think everyone should know at least two languages. The more different they are, the better. For example, knowing Danish and Norwegian won't give anyone much, but speaking Arabic and English will give you insight into quite a few things that seemingly have nothing to do with language -- yet are intrinsically connected.
Yep, and I think everyone should know at least two languages. The more different they are, the better. For example, knowing Danish and Norwegian won't give anyone much, but speaking Arabic and English will give you insight into quite a few things that seemingly have nothing to do with language -- yet are intrinsically connected.
“Language shapes the way we think, and determines what we can think about.”
Can you recommend a good method of learning languages?
61. AlabamaLower.
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Not all that groundbreaking, but they are a good watch.
I only checked this one, but Jesus, I hate this method of "teaching." Takes him ages to get to the point, and when you finally think he's going to actually say something useful about the subject, he says "but let me first talk about two myths." And usually you find out you wasted ten minutes to an hour only to discover the person had nothing of value to contribute anyway.(click to show/hide)
I only checked this one, but Jesus, I hate this method of "teaching." Takes him ages to get to the point, and when you finally think he's going to actually say something useful about the subject, he says "but let me first talk about two myths." And usually you find out you wasted ten minutes to an hour only to discover the person had nothing of value to contribute anyway.
Sadly, this tends to be the format TEDtalks follow. I don't understand why it's so hard to have an "abstract" in the beginning, á la science papers.
A TED talk about TED talks not working... it's like the liar paradox.(click to show/hide)
A TED talk about TED talks not working...
One week ago I had a meeting about organizing meetings at work. I think we reached the middle management singularity.
Agile?
Quite so. And successfully I might add. Most of the meetings are independent of that though.
It feels good speaking the language that everyone else in the world has to learn.
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It feels good speaking the language that everyone else in the world has to learn.
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You mean english? Because the proper flag should be that of UK. When I was in school british english was the main thing we learned, american english was just a chapter. I'm pretty sure british english is standard for most countries also. But what can I expect of you egocentric and ignorant american people (most of you). I won't even go into an argument with you because they are all filled with the same ignorance.
oh right, you have to learn english because England is such a powerful country. :rolleyes:
the lingua franca (hehe) of the world is english because america is the most influential and greatest country in the world, dont you yuropoors forget it
Norway may be second on the list, but we also got the worst accent.
It feels good speaking the language that everyone else in the world has to learn.
work on the assumption that other countries masturbate over their own flag at sports matches within their own country.
you don't need hitler to have an anti-gypsy stance in europeHey dude that's just fucking uncalled for. It's not the gypsies fault that 99.9% of them give the other 0.1% a bad name.
I love how fast have chocolate chip cookie ideology spread on this forum during past 4 years and how strong has become in last 12 months. Keep going lads, you're doing great so far.
What would happen if I tell you I'm gypsy?
English proficiency index - it's supposed to be the world's largest ranking of English skills. And has some weird numbers, Poland better than Belgium and Germany, RUssia better than Italy. Ruskies speak english?
being european I can safely say europeans are majority racist, ignorant and overall bad compared to americans.
you won't find an american willing to say that about america.
being european I can safely say europeans are majority racist, ignorant and overall bad compared to americans.Yes, out of 300 million Americans, not a single one will say that. Guaranteed by BADPLAYER, you can take that to the bank.
you won't find an american willing to say that about america.
Were's England? I looked all other 'Moderate', 'Low' and 'Very Low'...
What would happen if I tell you I'm gypsy?
English as lingua franca is the legacy of centuries of the British Empire. Yes, American history is short but the last 60 years is a historical footnote.
Yes how useful to speak only one language
being european I can safely say europeans are majority racist, ignorant and overall bad compared to americans.
you won't find an american willing to say that about america.
German was never a lingua franca, sorry. Except for ~5 years over Europe only. Can you guess when this was?
And fucking americans of all people calling europeans racist, HAH. You fuckers pretty much still operate on the paper bag test for "race". You still record and identify "race" in national statistics. Practically every single american city is heavily segregated based on "race". In fact, you fuckers are OBSESSED with race. And you're so ridiculously ethnocentric you project your own (unique, extremely fucked up, divisive, hateful) perceptions of racial relations to the rest of the entire planet, no matter how innapropriate and flawed it is. Sorry, US=/=entire world, I know it's hard to understand.
From working in an English language school for foreign students for a while in Brighton I can safely say that Russian English skills were far ahead of the Italians and Spanish. I'm surprised Spain ranks so highly. The main issue I found with the Russians was that they were much quieter in comparison.
The Norwegian students were always by far the most fluent. I also worked with around 200 Polish guys in a warehouse for a few months and their English was excellent, despite many of them not having been here long.
I believe that's due to their mother languages. Spanish makes it very hard to learn new languages because there are extremely few sounds in Spanish. Most of them have huge problems learning the pronunciation of another language. Japanese has the same problem. On the contrary, Russian has a very large variety of sounds and Russians usually have fewer difficulties with foreign languages.Do you have any sources for this or is this just your own thinking?
Do you have any sources for this or is this just your own thinking?
Because Russians tend to be the worst at English, even on this forum there's only a couple of Russians with decent English. From my experience, the Japanese have spoken English relatively well.
Many Russians don't write English well for several reasons. The first one is the alphabet, the second one is because you can live your whole life in Russia speaking Russian and nothing else. However, those that do learn English usually don't struggle with pronunciation. On the opposite end, Japanese is one of the languages with the lowest sound variety. I'm not really convinced about the Japanese speaking English well. Anyway yes, this is mostly conjecture and my own experience of Spanish speakers. Ultimately I believe the reasons why people from different countries have different proficiency in English is largely due to the local culture/nationalism. In France, English is perceived by many people (and first of all the Académie Française) as a threat to French.Pronunciation is a separate issue, though. I'm assuming Overdriven wasn't simply talking about that, but general English skills, such as grammar. But yes, Russians do tend to have better pronunciation (what kind of a fucking word is that, anyway? Pronounce->pronunciation, makes no sense) than Italians and the Spanish.
Pronunciation is a separate issue, though. I'm assuming Overdriven wasn't simply talking about that, but general English skills, such as grammar. But yes, Russians do tend to have better pronunciation (what kind of a fucking word is that, anyway? Pronounce->pronunciation, makes no sense) than Italians and the Spanish.
Young well-educated Chinese and Japanese do often have surprisingly good English.
Pronunciation is a separate issue, though. I'm assuming Overdriven wasn't simply talking about that, but general English skills, such as grammar. But yes, Russians do tend to have better pronunciation (what kind of a fucking word is that, anyway? Pronounce->pronunciation, makes no sense) than Italians and the Spanish.
Young well-educated Chinese and Japanese do often have surprisingly good English.
This is bullshit
Source: Years of DOTA
You forgot that russians use blyat instead of a comma or question mark.
Most of them have huge problems learning the pronunciation of another language.
In fact the way I see it, the very near future will have a much stronger North and South American union, which will turn the EU (with England leaving by then to join America of course, and Scandinavians betraying Europe with a new h1tler in charge) into a sprawling third world wasteland.
Scandinavian H1tler
Xant is a prime candidate for that. He allegedly lives in that general area.
Haha, no Scandinavian would follow a Fin.
Young well-educated Chinese and Japanese do often have surprisingly good English.
Xant is a prime candidate for that. He allegedly lives in that general area.
Xant it seems that you have a fanboy. This one can't stop posting about you.I know right, first it was about how much America sucked, now it's me. But hey, whatever floats his goat.
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I know right, first it was about how much America sucked, now it's me. But hey, whatever floats his goat.
You said a lot of things that should have potentially been funny or infuriating to some, but the only reaction I had was meh. Gimme some context!
Why, no, fellow poster. Please enlighten me.
Kafein m8 so edgy i cannot touch the screen without getting cut
Christo so caustic I can't hold myself without a plastic bucket.
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