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cRPG => Beginner's Help and Guides => Topic started by: Tanken on July 25, 2014, 04:25:28 am
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So, I recently got to wondering..
Every so often you'll hear what I've always considered to be a myth about if you have a shield sheathed it reduces damage to your back/body from the body armor addition. Some people say only projectiles, some say it's all types of damage. Also, there is a dispute as to whether it covers just back-side damage, or all sides from damage?
The reason I ask, is I have 2 additional slots in my build going unused, and it seems like it might be worth it to loom a Hide Covered Round Shield +3 just to wear on my back, if it does in fact give you more body armor or cover.
Please give me factual answers! Thanks a ton.
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Backside (and not all of it)
Projectiles only
if hit_shield_on_back:
armor += shield_resistance + 10
Stuff I have no idea about:
Does steel buckler/round steel buckler still give the bonus (it goes on your hip)? If they do, on what hitbox?
Does shield size matter?
Which shield does it count if you have multiple shields on your back?
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Stuff I have no idea about:
Does steel buckler/round steel buckler still give the bonus (it goes on your hip)? If they do, on what hitbox?
I asked this in the last version of the thread and never got an answer. I will be using a buckler again soon, so if anyone knows I'd be thankful for the info.
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the body armor addition.
There is no such thing as body armor on shields. They have just renamed the Resistance number. I recently heard from someone that they considered shields OP because of the additional armor, and it kinda freaked me out: how long have people thought that shields added armor to your body? They dont and never have.
This said, on your back a shield reduces projectile damage, I doubt the nunbers are as simple as Huscarlton states, there was a time when backshields halved the incoming projectile damage (same mechanic as teamhits) and I never read that it was changed.
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I put my shield on my back and backpedal toward archers sometimes for lolz (98 back armor according to Huscarton's formula). Tatar arrows that hit the shield often glance, but bodkins still do a bit of damage. It definitely works.
Sauce played for years with a Round Cavalry Shield on his back while using a polearm, so there is precedent. As long as having a shield on your back doesn't preclude polearm thrusts from hitting people through walls, your playstyle should only be enhanced.
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There is no such thing as body armor on shields. They have just renamed the Resistance number. I recently heard from someone that they considered shields OP because of the additional armor, and it kinda freaked me out: how long have people thought that shields added armor to your body? They dont and never have.
This said, on your back a shield reduces projectile damage, I doubt the nunbers are as simple as Huscarlton states, there was a time when backshields halved the incoming projectile damage (same mechanic as teamhits) and I never read that it was changed.
Whoops, found the exact formula.
It still is simple, it's just that I incorrectly put a 1/2 factor on the shield resistance.
Still only applies to projectiles.
f hit_shield_on_back:
armor += shield_resistance + 10
Your foot speed will be slightly slowed by the shield weight, and shields can a bit obstructive to one's view, but other than that it doesn't have any penalties. (wpf only affected by real armor)
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And bucklers don't have this effect.
So next time you play, put a hide covered round shield on you back for extra 30+ body armor. Or don't because it's damn ugly.
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Would any of the long board shields cover a greater area of your back than, say, a round shield? Crossbowmen used said shields so that they could reload with their back turned to whoever was shooting them so that their shield would block incoming projectiles. Some shields were even planted on the ground in front of a crossbowman to act as movable cover.
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Would any of the long board shields cover a greater area of your back than, say, a round shield? Crossbowmen used said shields so that they could reload with their back turned to whoever was shooting them so that their shield would block incoming projectiles. Some shields were even planted on the ground in front of a crossbowman to act as movable cover.
No. The shield model has no effect on the coverage. Shield only effects the body armor between the belt line a the neck. Anything below or above will hit like normal even though it's covered by a board shield.
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No. The shield model has no effect on the coverage. Shield only effects the body armor between the belt line a the neck. Anything below or above will hit like normal even though it's covered by a board shield.
It'd be cool if it did, tho.
chadz pls read
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So I basically need to buy a buckler purely for the armor and wear it on my back at all times, gotcha.
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So I basically need to buy a buckler purely for the armor and wear it on my back at all times, gotcha.
A+ reading comprehension
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So I basically need to buy a buckler purely for the armor and wear it on my back at all times, gotcha.
If I could wear a buckler on my head I would, shit is insanely strong.
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If I could wear a buckler on my head I would, shit is insanely strong.
I don't have a pic of this for the round buckler, but if you hold an uppercut (down directional punch) with a steel buckler/round steel buckler you can see just how awesome they would be as a hat. Or a platter to serve food on.
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Its the shields resistance rating(armor) + 10 to your armor. It works on projectiles AND (this has been tested) it works on the great lance and practice lance, as they are calculated as projectiles for damage(why you are able to hit the rider,kill him, and still die by the lance)
Here is the thread i made about it and recorded the arrows reducing damage if you want to see to believe.
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/small-archer-ranged-counter/msg1039240/#msg1039240
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Don't forget the anti-turtle measure that means a shield on your back or a buckler on your belt counts as some ridiculous weight, like 10 times normal or something, so you will move very slowly if you try this.
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Don't forget the anti-turtle measure that means a shield on your back or a buckler on your belt counts as some ridiculous weight, like 10 times normal or something, so you will move very slowly if you try this.
Only if you also have a shield equipped in your left hand. A shield on your back alone only has it's own weight penalty.