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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Latvian on April 11, 2014, 09:55:50 pm

Title: Stupidity
Post by: Latvian on April 11, 2014, 09:55:50 pm
All i can hear is that UIF is so bad, UIF is so evil, lets kill UIF blah blah blah but reality is that so called anti UIF is just stupid and never gonna succeed. I can tell you why because for example when druzhina is attacking castle what do we see?

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exactly,  barely 30 players bother to come and try to repell attack of druzhina, and guess what? none of those UIF haters is there.
Another thing.
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why not have fun and kill each other while not attacking UIF or doing anything to stack stuff and go finish them off?
I just dont get it. Someone should explain this to me.

P.S. people with weak nervous system do not bother to reply.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: serr on April 11, 2014, 09:58:23 pm
Probably because... http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/go-drz-kapikulu-are-shunned/

On other hand I completely agree with you, that post by Kinngrimm just declared it officially.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: IR_Kuoin on April 11, 2014, 09:58:43 pm
I can smell it coming ...

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 11, 2014, 10:15:23 pm
Probably because... http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/go-drz-kapikulu-are-shunned/

On other hand I completely agree with you, that post by Kinngrimm just declared it officially.
Exactly we "anit-uif" wont fight uif any more in any way, instead we will have fun and fighting or own wars against each other :D
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Gimest on April 12, 2014, 12:10:27 am
The fight's against UIF in this strat have been like that 70% of the time. Why is it problem now?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: kinngrimm on April 12, 2014, 12:17:41 am
imagine that, noone is fighting the UIF ...
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Zaharist on April 12, 2014, 04:16:47 am
The fight's against UIF in this strat have been like that 70% of the time. Why is it problem now?

they tried, they failed, now they "imagine" that there is no UIF and they are strong and able to do something on strat.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Zaharist on April 12, 2014, 04:19:33 am
imagine that, noone is fighting the UIF ...

but how did you see that UIF word? how could u use it?! UIF DOESN"T EXIST WHAT IS IT WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AREYOUMAD?!?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 12, 2014, 05:35:55 am
Because people don't give a single,flying fuck about strategus (Outside Russia and Poland)
It's not a new game, you don't play with new people,the place you play at is same,methods to play is same,ways are same...
In my country i have some other shits to enjoy and celebrate life rather than doing the exact same fucking thing over and over and over again and expecting shit to change. Oh wait that was the defination of insanity.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 12, 2014, 09:12:36 am
they tried, they failed, now they "imagine" that there is no UIF and they are strong and able to do something on strat.

We are strong enough to do this Zaharist, and there is nothing you can do about it - despite your power and organisation.

We have put you in a position where you can chose one out of three options:

1. Take the whole map and make fun battles or whatever
2. Goto sleep
3. Break of the alliance with GO and have a war

What you do is up too you, I personally couldnt care less, yesterday I had to try and unite the whole fucking east because of your alliance, today I can just play the game in a way that suits the Kalmarunion and do whatever we want to do, attack anyone we desire and set goals we think is fun.

Gandhi is coming for you  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Aksei on April 12, 2014, 09:23:58 am
well, some just dont want to play anymore against UIF because they like to fight each other in the spare time.

In a way everyone wins and lose at the same time.

UIF:
- wins, because nearly no enemy. Easy battles against 10 players and stuff like that. Possible to conquer the whole map with 20 men
- lose, because its like a game that only has one button that makes you win, no challenge, no fun

Factions that dont fight UIF:
- wins, because they can play the game like they want, more equal wars and battles, dodnt have to ally with people they dont like
- lose, because they will lose big amounts of troops and gear in UIF battles and strat will be over very fast if UIF want to attack

Factions like the french fries who will fight:
- wins, because they will probably have some good fights and UIF has some mercy cause if they defeat them to hard, strat over
- lose, because they have maybe fight big UIF and smaller factions, whats the nearly impossible

for myself, i will try to make my own small army and fight someone else in a YOLO charge

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Lannistark on April 12, 2014, 12:32:56 pm
I've always thought this. Why the fuck does no one show up to defend castles being attacked. I just came back to this mod after leaving it for 1 year and I don't recall things being as dead as they are now. The first castle Druzhina attacked it with 1.7k men. Then they attacked another one with 1.5k men. Lastly, this one we lost was besieged with barely 1.3k men. Starting to see a pattern here.

The resistance is so low from defenders Druzhina could conquer anything they'd want at this rate. Developers even buffed defenses in castle; although a good idea, pretty much useless when there are no players available to wield the weapons.

Developers shooted up the prices of stuffs in this Strat edition, making all the small factions to suffer and the bigger factions to increase their power. Short time ago Druzhina finally engaged into rape-mode devastating all the castles nearby and soon they'll go after the cities. Then you see these threads of people playing the 4 year-old void game. I just don't understand. Instead of organising and playing you just accept you lose. Unless you intend to bore them to death like if it were a duel in EU3, odds are we're gonna be for a quick Strat Round.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 12, 2014, 12:52:29 pm
imagine that, noone is fighting the UIF ...

Druzhina took the desert. Normal. We have almost 85% of Greyland. Normal. The rest of the huge international community has all the rest of the map for yourself. Why the drama? What is the problem? Get the fuck away from us. Look better, what you can do better, instead of forever cry like spoiled brats. Keep face if you can. In your shoes I'd probably burned with shame  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 12:52:49 pm
I've always thought this. Why the fuck does no one show up to defend castles being attacked. I just came back to this mod after leaving it for 1 year and I don't recall things being as dead as they are now. The first castle Druzhina attacked it with 1.7k men. Then they attacked another one with 1.5k men. Lastly, this one we lost was besieged with barely 1.3k men. Starting to see a pattern here.

The resistance is so low from defenders Druzhina could conquer anything they'd want at this rate. Developers even buffed defenses in castle; although a good idea, pretty much useless when there are no players available to wield the weapons.

Developers shooted up the prices of stuffs in this Strat edition, making all the small factions to suffer and the bigger factions to increase their power. Short time ago Druzhina finally engaged into rape-mode devastating all the castles nearby and soon they'll go after the cities. Then you see these threads of people playing the 4 year-old void game. I just don't understand. Instead of organising and playing you just accept you lose. Unless you intend to bore them to death like if it were a duel in EU3, odds are we're gonna be for a quick Strat Round.
If uif want to conquer the whole map and put a end to this strat round quick it's all fine by me, we tried to unite the non-uif factions but as you may have noticed it's not possible the map would have looked very different. We tried to fight them and put all our resource in to it, we failed as we didn't have enough support in battles, on the map you and so on. Now we have decided to just fuck them we do our own thing and if uif don't like it too bad for them because we will still be able to fight battles and they wont :D

We tried to rally everyone against the uif a month ago but many didn't seem to care, now ppl seem to see the problem but it's to late now. The thing is we had our chance to brake the uif and it would have worked if we had everyone with us, but as we all have learned that is impossible
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 12:55:23 pm
Druzhina took the desert. Normal. We have almost 85% of Greyland. Normal. The rest of the huge international community has all the rest of the map for yourself. Why the drama? What is the problem? Get the fuck away from us. Look better, what you can do better, instead of forever cry like spoiled brats. Keep face if you can. In your shoes I'd probably burned with shame  :rolleyes:
Yea sure... Another thing is that you don't seem to understand is that the rest of those who are not uif are not united and they will never be and that's it, just wanted you to know that
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on April 12, 2014, 01:08:29 pm
Thats the first time I actively take part in strat. Was fun at the beginning, getting to know how trade and alle the stuff works, some small battles, etc...
Then the rape-battles started. Well thanks a lot for shitting on strat noobs, cba to spend more than 2 minutes per day clicking a little on the map when things go like this.
I cant even hope to be even the smallest challenge for one of the big factions and I'm not planning to be a punching bag for someones entertainment.
Nice to have met you strat, fuck off and suffocate in some dark corner.

Too long to read: QQ
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on April 12, 2014, 02:05:50 pm
Fighting UIF was one of the funniest battles (either AI or human victims), since basically all of non-UIF would gather together in the opposite roster, bar a few independant/or hostile to a part of non-UIF player. Those battles had the most balanced roster, and if the gear was alright, it was going to be a good time.

Now each time UIF attacks something, this will happen:

- if its an AI, enjoy the rape
- if its a non-UIF not on war embargo, enjoy the rape
- if its a non-UIF on war embargo, no battle


Its a battle of influence now: either the war embargo kills the whole map, or UIF stops playing temporarily to give us time to grow strong, or stop playing altogether.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 12, 2014, 02:24:52 pm
... or UIF stops playing temporarily to give us time to grow strong...

What do you propose?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on April 12, 2014, 03:00:36 pm
What I just wrote, and then thats just a statement, not a proposition  :wink:  I'm not into changing the game rules for me and the others. Ultimately, if the war embargo ended, I would be happy to resume our normal activities.


But if you really want to hear my opinion (I know you want to, dont lie to me Harpag...) I think you should start playing purposedfully bad and lose all battles in the next 3 or 4 months (apply more kapikulu in your rosters, it would help). Or just start hibernating (I know we are in spring) to give a break to non-UIF so they can shoot each other in peace, then you come back and pick up the pieces. Also declaring a war embargo on all non-UIF and starting your own fun war against DRZ, could help a great deal. Or even disable access to strategus for all russians and polish people? Calling chadz on his personal phone right now...

Maybe then, we could have a balanced map.

As you see, there is many reasonable and logic alternatives to breathing life into strategus.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: MURDERTRON on April 12, 2014, 03:40:57 pm
If I was the UIF I would probably just attack the shunners.  If they want to be crybaby quitters, you should just take their stuff so all their strat clicks and forum posts will be for nothing.  That is what quitters deserve.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kanclerz on April 12, 2014, 03:42:38 pm
Or even disable access to strategus for all russians and polish people? Calling chadz on his personal phone right now...
Hahha Butan, seriously? disable access for Polish players and Russians?
ARE YOU IDIOT?  you are a FASCIST!
you (non uif and anti uif) are too stupid to get organized into one big bloc, and here is your problem!

balancing the game by excluding part of the players?
in breach of international law, such a statement,
you preach as constituting discrimination;D
You don't know what logic
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 03:50:15 pm
Hahha Butan, seriously? disable access for Polish players and Russians?
ARE YOU IDIOT?  you are a FASCIST!
you (non uif and anti uif) are too stupid to get organized into one big bloc, and here is your problem!

balancing the game by excluding part of the players?
in breach of international law, such a statement,
you preach as constituting discrimination;D
You don't know what logic
Here we go again with the big block argument...

*Edit: Yea I like it better in yellow :D
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 12, 2014, 04:32:57 pm
Ignoring UIF. Best strat Decision all game. Just come to NA and spice things up here. If a bunch of EU's come over here, we'd have a real interesting dynamic/war's going on.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Yarl on April 12, 2014, 04:57:41 pm
No blocks strat:
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Keshian on April 12, 2014, 05:32:17 pm
Its funny.  NA you see strat community dying when blocks form especially when msot of the map is allied, but this is pretty new phenomenon in NA where there was never such an overwhelming number of large clans allied.  But its been 5 strategus now where all the same largest factions are allied every single round killing off the eu community and basically ruining a chance for a great mod to thrive and yet UIF never learns.  Because at root the average UIF thinks like this:

"I'm [Russian, polack, turkish] - we are awesome because we have 5x as many people actively playing a mod thats slowly dying off. 2/3rds of the playerbase on strat is us.  We can beat up on factions 1/10th our alliance's size by sheer numbers - we must be great.  Our complete lack of skill in the game means nothing as long as we breed new cd keys like rabbits and overwhelm what few non-eastern european players are left.  Who wants a challenge or a real fight when we can pretend to be good by getting the other 50 people in my tenement to join crpg and breed troops for us and we can trade with the other 2/3rds of the map that is allied with us.  And we can always get 50 man rosters day or night while fighting 20-25 people - because of course we enjoy crpg so much we will show up 24 hours a day to fight 2 minute battles and show our national pride.  We are the many, we are the proud, we are the lemmings of the world!"

Honestly non-uif guys at this point, after 3-4 years where so many of you have left or come back or play this only every now and then - dont get upset, jsut feel sorry for how empty and meaningless their real lives must be they actually exert this much effort recruiting and grinding against people that dont care anymore.  Really think about the russian and polish mentality that has never done anything different or unique for the last 4 years of playing - wonder how boring and unimaginative they must be in real life. 

Yeah, I say unto thee, pity them, do not revile them, for pity is what they deserve.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on April 12, 2014, 06:01:18 pm
I was sarcastic Kanclerz  :D (maybe you too?)


Just come to NA and spice things up here. If a bunch of EU's come over here, we'd have a real interesting dynamic/war's going on.


Some guys in EU are doing just that, and I think if the prophecy of EU being dominated early-mid game by one block comes true, there will be only 2 options : stop strat or come NA.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Spurdospera on April 12, 2014, 06:13:15 pm
Just come to NA and spice things up here. If a bunch of EU's come over here, we'd have a real interesting dynamic/war's going on.
Might actually bring the mighty trading faction of Bubastan there and eat up all of S/D on our path like army of locusts.
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Hetman_The_Grey on April 12, 2014, 06:15:49 pm
hehe hehehe heheheheheh ahahahahha wuahahahha meheheheh
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Bittersteel on April 12, 2014, 06:21:16 pm
ha ha ha ..... ahahhahahahaha .... hehehehehehhe ..wuahahahahhahahha .ahhahahahahahah hehehehehehhe wuahahahahhahaahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.


Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kanclerz on April 12, 2014, 06:35:27 pm
I was sarcastic Kanclerz  :D (maybe you too?)
Yep, I was sarcastic ;d
I like strategus ;d

Who have many allies and good organisation = win
In game Or real life its true ;d

About situation in strat - find new people on others mods - napoleonic wars, native - make a invitations ;d and create good organisations, choose the king and make  kingdom of free crying peasants ;p
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on April 12, 2014, 06:48:21 pm
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 07:12:46 pm
Yep, I was sarcastic ;d
I like strategus ;d

Who have many allies and good organisation = win
In game Or real life its true ;d

About situation in strat - find new people on others mods - napoleonic wars, native - make a invitations ;d and create good organisations, choose the king and make  kingdom of free crying peasants ;p
But remember my friend that those who have no one to fight can't win, how did you plan to win now?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Spurdospera on April 12, 2014, 07:15:29 pm
But remember my friend that those who have no one to fight can't win, how did you plan to win now?
Well they can always fight those who still "see" them I would guess?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 07:22:12 pm
Well they can always fight those who still "see" them I would guess?
And who are those if I may ask bubbastan and the franchises?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kanclerz on April 12, 2014, 07:41:45 pm
But remember my friend that those who have no one to fight can't win, how did you plan to win now?

GREY ORDER, DRUZHINA and KAPIKULU are not an Alliance? We are not friends? Interesting things you suggest:D

Nobody likes KALMARS, it is known

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 07:48:21 pm
GREY ORDER, DRUZHINA and KAPIKULU are not an Alliance? We are not friends? Interesting things you suggest:D

Nobody likes KALMARS, it is known

And that's why:
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Sorry but I didn't quite get your point there, sorry
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kanclerz on April 12, 2014, 08:01:16 pm
Don't worry KALMARS. We will take care of your place in the reserve ;))

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Nyu on April 12, 2014, 08:02:51 pm
GREY ORDER, DRUZHINA and KAPIKULU are not an Alliance? We are not friends? Interesting things you suggest:D

Nobody likes KALMARS, it is known

And that's why:
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Sorry but I didn't quite get your point there, sorry

It basically looks like a dick, and nobody likes it if you are like dicks, right? :P
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 08:05:03 pm
It basically looks like a dick, and nobody likes it if you are like dicks, right? :P
Well I know many who like to suck Hetmans dick...
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Spurdospera on April 12, 2014, 08:20:37 pm
And who are those if I may ask bubbastan and the franchises?
hmmm.... maybe byzantium? Bubastan for sure. I´m sure there were atleast 1 EU faction more to list...

Also they can surely fight against NA?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 09:00:13 pm
hmmm.... maybe byzantium? Bubastan for sure. I´m sure there were atleast 1 EU faction more to list...

Also they can surely fight against NA?
I have lost my hope for the mighty shougante to do anything a long time ago, but ofc uif could fight NA other then that I don't think there is anyone as we were most of the northern and eastern clans making this deal of not fighting uif
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Osiris on April 12, 2014, 09:25:15 pm
well you did attack them arn ^^
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 10:02:11 pm
well you did attack them arn ^^
Well they have been talking about doing some thing for a while now, only talk tho I'd be surprised if they do anything against any side

Also we attacked GO but they still have given us offers of joining them and back stab kapis and shogunate with them, we ofc told them to fuck off but if they on the other hand would offered us on going against drz with them I wouldn't hesitate for a second. That my friends would have been a real game changer, but will ofc never happen
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 12, 2014, 10:19:08 pm
dont get upset, jsut feel sorry for how empty and meaningless their real lives must be they actually exert this much effort recruiting and grinding against people that dont care ...  Really think about ... how boring and unimaginative they must be in real life.

Gentlemen, we have reached peak irony.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Bittersteel on April 12, 2014, 10:28:23 pm
Well they have been talking about doing some thing for a while now, only talk tho I'd be surprised if they do anything against any side

Also we attacked GO but they still have given us offers of joining them and back stab kapis and shogunate with them, we ofc told them to fuck off but if they on the other hand would offered us on going against drz with them I wouldn't hesitate for a second. That my friends would have been a real game changer, but will ofc never happen

Trying to make UIF turn on eachother like a baws. Altough i would go with something more realistic.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 12, 2014, 10:31:32 pm
Trying to make UIF turn on eachother like a baws. Altough i would go with something more realistic.
If you don't believe me go ask Harpag himself :P

Edit: And to be honest I couldn't care less if kapis and shougante start fighting uif now, it's to late for that
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 12, 2014, 11:14:59 pm
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Matey on April 12, 2014, 11:54:31 pm

you (non uif and anti uif) are too stupid to get organized into one big bloc, and here is your problem!



This quote and others like it from other UIF players is what makes me think that maybe the shunners really do have the right idea.

If you want strat to just be Bloc A vs Bloc B then go play WoW or some other 2 faction based MMO. Most people here want a more dynamic diplomacy/politics wargame with shifting alliances and varied wars and so on. We dont want to play a 1v1 match of EU3 with all countries belonging to one of 2 super empires. Strat is its best when there are tons of different factions and your inability to see that just depresses me.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Farrix on April 13, 2014, 12:27:38 am
I've been playing this game since before strategus even came about. One faction has consistently abused game mechanics, abused alliances and created essentially puppets out of "friends." They have also consistently won strategus. Congratulations Druzhina with your victories, but know now that to a large number in this community, our personal honor, how we conduct ourselves in this game, is more important than a superficial victory. You are the best at being the worst, and you have my grudging acknowledgement.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 13, 2014, 02:03:52 am
After seeing people do not defend against UIF,you decided to attack 4 castles in one day.
This just sums up the whole drama about strategus.
You play it to pump your virtual e-peen up.
We play it only if we have fun.

Enjoy wasting your hours on sunday evening  to take castles from 30 unorganized peasants :lol:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on April 13, 2014, 02:28:20 am
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on April 13, 2014, 04:38:05 am
Gentlemen, we have reached peak irony.

Kesh I'm sorry I poked fun at your illustrious strat history (it is an internet horse game joke, not an attack on your person). I actually agree with you (except for the need to include the nationality of the players involved, that has nothing to do with this discussion). Megablob faction ruins the "many warring kindgoms" feel that originally got me interested in strat. When everyone is buddy-buddy and just rolling over startup clans and randoms it takes a lot of fun out of it for me.

On the other hand, many of these players have known each other for years at this point. It doesn't make sense to just throw away years of alliance because some other players you don't know or care about aren't having as much fun as they would like to.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 13, 2014, 09:03:15 am
Why not all joining UIF ?
Nobody wants to fight UIF because it's not fun to loose all battles. It's like Irak or Libya trying to invade USA...
UIF is the New World Order, and so : end of the game.
We don't want to create an alliance just to give you a chance to have fun. If you want fun and big battles : FIGHT EACH OTHER, cowards !
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 13, 2014, 11:35:07 am
Why not all joining UIF ?

Maybe cuz we don't want in UIF undisciplined and mewling assholes?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 13, 2014, 01:00:42 pm
Only cowards so....

What's your goal exactly ? To have the strongest alliance and say " We won" ? So, ok, you won. End of Strategus.

But who is the strongest ? Greys or Druzhinas ? You will never know  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 13, 2014, 01:15:51 pm
Maybe cuz we don't want in UIF undisciplined and mewling assholes?
And they took kapikulu :)

Good luck tonight i guess you will have really really hard battle to get 3 castles in 10 mins hahahaha

We all know that u all pissed off cos of it.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Aksei on April 13, 2014, 01:26:22 pm
the good thing when strat ends, some can get their job back  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: kinngrimm on April 13, 2014, 02:33:25 pm
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Good luck tonight i guess you will have really really hard battle to get 3 castles in 10 mins hahahaha

We all know that u all pissed off cos of it.
when they then finnally cap all the map and they would also the only once left on eu1 and eu2, wont they then feel special, all having titles  :lol:

I still think, that one of the main reasons for the first Iraq War was, to get an enemy fast no matter whom. Just as then america lost one of their long term enemies USSR. There is this theory, which says that a nations coherence as a society only works out aslong you have common goals. A Nation basicly defined through wars and enemies, would have a tough time, by loosing an enemy. No enemies, no reason for coherence. I wonder how long it takes for either of these fucked up depraved handholding carebearing cocksucking bitches to either get it over with and attack all others, take em down or to turn on each other or *yawn* goto hybernation and wait for the next strat.


Bite me ... my masochism tendencies have been increased in this game, so bite me i still wont fight you, i wont make a single roster against you, you can have it all, take it, come on, we will see what happens afterwards  :twisted: That then is what you are really afraid of, no enemies , surrounded but by friends ... in a war game  :lol:
come on 4k troops in Rebache, you can have them, just attack and that way you can take even more castles sooner. You can see it as a contribution to your already weakening interest in a game without anyone to fight against, send a few polish nolifers who still think this is great, give them the exstasy on getting 4k troops for free.

I am here really with Kesh on this one, i pitty you.
You became what you fought in strat 1 but you became even worse. You became boring.
But hey you are good lads, which just cant say no to new applicants right? May it be as clan members, faction members(i cant remember this other clan who is in your faction, must have lost its identity) or friends who are not fighting you but are united with you while fighting the same enemies,  "independently"  :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

and damn am i glad i muted you, to not have to see your fucked up reasoning anymore.

@Heskeytime
you want to play nice with them, go ahead, because that is what really helped sofar. Reasoning which they dont listen to, as they still think this is a big ruse, while they dont get, that they lost "the game" already. Like in, there is no meaning to this game for them anymore, they lost the way of this game a long time ago and with us not going against them, the game looses all substance for them. They may for a while now still hang after the fond memories, but they will not be able to keep up the illusion forever , that they need to struggle and need to make efforts to win , while they get everything for free. At some point their members will notice, "Why the hell do we continue doing this shit, bad or no XP and bad or no battles and no fucking enemies to fight with". When then their activity rate drops to an all time low and they miss out on the crucial point where they could have still waged war against their ^^ friends, that then will be the point i will laugh my ass of.

We lost, you won, bad game, moving on.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Molly on April 13, 2014, 02:49:05 pm
At some point their members will notice, "Why the hell do we continue doing this shit, bad or no XP and bad or no battles and no fucking enemies to fight with". When then their activity rate drops to an all time low and they miss out on the crucial point where they could have still waged war against their ^^ friends, that then will be the point i will laugh my ass of.

We lost, you won, bad game, moving on.
I'm not really into Strat and all but looking at those sieges tonight for the castles... with DRZ and GO as attacking party... the defenders side is kinda full with people... just saying...

For your big plan to work you kinda need to involve all those Strat randomers. Otherwise... well... you'll figure it out.  :?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 13, 2014, 02:49:22 pm
when they then finnally cap all the map and they would also the only once left on eu1 and eu2, wont they then feel special, all having titles  :lol:

I still think, that one of the main reasons for the first Iraq War was, to get an enemy fast no matter whom. Just as then america lost one of their long term enemies USSR. There is this theory, which says that a nations coherence as a society only works out aslong you have common goals. A Nation basicly defined through wars and enemies, would have a tough time, by loosing an enemy. No enemies, no reason for coherence. I wonder how long it takes for either of these fucked up depraved handholding carebearing cocksucking bitches to either get it over with and attack all others, take em down or to turn on each other or *yawn* goto hybernation and wait for the next strat.


Bite me ... my masochism tendencies have been increased in this game, so bite me i still wont fight you, i wont make a single roster against you, you can have it all, take it, come on, we will see what happens afterwards  :twisted: That then is what you are really afraid of, no enemies , surrounded but by friends ... in a war game  :lol:
come on 4k troops in Rebache, you can have them, just attack and that way you can take even more castles sooner. You can see it as a contribution to your already weakening interest in a game without anyone to fight against, send a few polish nolifers who still think this is great, give them the exstasy on getting 4k troops for free.

I am here really with Kesh on this one, i pitty you.
You became what you fought in strat 1 but you became even worse. You became boring.
But hey you are good lads, which just cant say no to new applicants right? May it be as clan members, faction members(i cant remember this other clan who is in your faction, must have lost its identity) or friends who are not fighting you but are united with you while fighting the same enemies,  "independently"  :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

and damn am i glad i muted you, to not have to see your fucked up reasoning anymore.

@Heskeytime
you want to play nice with them, go ahead, because that is what really helped sofar. Reasoning which they dont listen to, as they still think this is a big ruse, while they dont get, that they lost "the game" already. Like in, there is no meaning to this game for them anymore, they lost the way of this game a long time ago and with us not going against them, the game looses all substance for them. They may for a while now still hang after the fond memories, but they will not be able to keep up the illusion forever , that they need to struggle and need to make efforts to win , while they get everything for free. At some point their members will notice, "Why the hell do we continue doing this shit, bad or no XP and bad or no battles and no fucking enemies to fight with". When then their activity rate drops to an all time low and they miss out on the crucial point where they could have still waged war against their ^^ friends, that then will be the point i will laugh my ass of.

We lost, you won, bad game, moving on.

kinngrimm_the_gravedigger  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: MURDERTRON on April 13, 2014, 02:56:10 pm
when they then finnally cap all the map and they would also the only once left on eu1 and eu2, wont they then feel special, all having titles  :lol:

I still think, that one of the main reasons for the first Iraq War was, to get an enemy fast no matter whom. Just as then america lost one of their long term enemies USSR. There is this theory, which says that a nations coherence as a society only works out aslong you have common goals. A Nation basicly defined through wars and enemies, would have a tough time, by loosing an enemy. No enemies, no reason for coherence. I wonder how long it takes for either of these fucked up depraved handholding carebearing cocksucking bitches to either get it over with and attack all others, take em down or to turn on each other or *yawn* goto hybernation and wait for the next strat.


Bite me ... my masochism tendencies have been increased in this game, so bite me i still wont fight you, i wont make a single roster against you, you can have it all, take it, come on, we will see what happens afterwards  :twisted: That then is what you are really afraid of, no enemies , surrounded but by friends ... in a war game  :lol:
come on 4k troops in Rebache, you can have them, just attack and that way you can take even more castles sooner. You can see it as a contribution to your already weakening interest in a game without anyone to fight against, send a few polish nolifers who still think this is great, give them the exstasy on getting 4k troops for free.

I am here really with Kesh on this one, i pitty you.
You became what you fought in strat 1 but you became even worse. You became boring.
But hey you are good lads, which just cant say no to new applicants right? May it be as clan members, faction members(i cant remember this other clan who is in your faction, must have lost its identity) or friends who are not fighting you but are united with you while fighting the same enemies,  "independently"  :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

and damn am i glad i muted you, to not have to see your fucked up reasoning anymore.

@Heskeytime
you want to play nice with them, go ahead, because that is what really helped sofar. Reasoning which they dont listen to, as they still think this is a big ruse, while they dont get, that they lost "the game" already. Like in, there is no meaning to this game for them anymore, they lost the way of this game a long time ago and with us not going against them, the game looses all substance for them. They may for a while now still hang after the fond memories, but they will not be able to keep up the illusion forever , that they need to struggle and need to make efforts to win , while they get everything for free. At some point their members will notice, "Why the hell do we continue doing this shit, bad or no XP and bad or no battles and no fucking enemies to fight with". When then their activity rate drops to an all time low and they miss out on the crucial point where they could have still waged war against their ^^ friends, that then will be the point i will laugh my ass of.

We lost, you won, bad game, moving on.

Can you just quit again instead of writing pages of excuses and that people don't play how you want them to play?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 13, 2014, 03:03:11 pm
Can you just quit again instead of writing pages of excuses and that people don't play how you want them to play?

Oh quit reading then ?  I know this didnt come to your USA brain. No problem.

I am here really with Kesh on this one, i pitty you.
 May it be as clan members, faction members(i cant remember this other clan who is in your faction, must have lost its identity) or friends who are not fighting you but are united with you while fighting the same enemies,  "independently"  :lol: :lol: :lol: ...

Most of cRPG players keep playing this game because of fame.They gain a name by the game and they give a life to it.We have many legends and all of them just seperating from each other but we still remember their name.

In UIF we cant really give the names ; I can give UIF legends but thats only because i played with them.People dont even know who is the third or fourth guy on command at DRZ or Grey order.Their butcher players ? Most of them just call yea grey order got some good players or yes drz got some too but cant fuckin give name for it.But on the otherside its totally different.

We had many hero in BashiBazouk but i guess people know us because we used to play on EU_1 instead of EU_2 otherwise they would just call us Cicero and his men like Hetman and his men.

DRZ and GO ; just one big group leading by 1 fuckin command without even critise it.Its still nice to see that they are loyal to a tag and give more fame for it which even got a limit and cant gain anymore.Every battle you win , every goods u transfer , every troop u create , every gold u transfer will give e-peen to your clan leader not you ; and remember nobody give a shit about your personality u can only get watched by big brother :)

We are the original Indıpendent clans ; we will to be remembered by crpg players as name but not you ; you are just a drz or grey order.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 13, 2014, 03:14:15 pm
I'm not really into Strat and all but looking at those sieges tonight for the castles... with DRZ and GO as attacking party... the defenders side is kinda full with people... just saying...

For your big plan to work you kinda need to involve all those Strat randomers. Otherwise... well... you'll figure it out.  :?

What happens when AI fiefs are gone... well... you'll figure it out.  :?

Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on April 13, 2014, 03:23:55 pm
Most of cRPG players keep playing this game because of XP.

Fixed.


For XP, we need balanced roster.
For a balanced roster, we need players both side.

The war embargo is ruining the little bits of fun we could still have had by possibly making strategus battles unplayable.


I really hope noone follows the lead of the war embargo leaders and just apply en masse everytime they can.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 13, 2014, 03:28:47 pm

The war embargo is ruining the little bits of fun we could still have had by possibly making strategus battles unplayable.

Thats our aim actually.We will ruin the game because they are ruining our game.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: autobus on April 13, 2014, 03:41:38 pm
Strategus is all about battles, which can be held without anti-UIF, it worked out well in past with set up fights between UIF, it will work in the future. In fact, that will only benefit those randomers who cba to join factions and just want to play the game as loners.
Even if every single non-UIF member leaves strat, druzhina and GO alone have enough players to fill the rosters and have great fights while having all the map to themselves.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 13, 2014, 03:50:30 pm
Even if every single non-UIF member leaves strat, druzhina and GO alone have enough players to fill the rosters and have great fights while having all the map to themselves.

Thank you otobus ; you understand this but still saying that UIF is logical lol

We as non UIF who dont have enough people that wants to play strategus or strategus battle cant fill roster against UIF ; got it ?

We dont do it because we suck ; even if we try our best we will be outnumbered.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 13, 2014, 04:57:57 pm
Both Greys and DRZ are good clans with good players, but the Greyzhina alliance just fucks the game up.
It's not the question to fill the rosters with some random guys without any strategy. It would be much more challenging to fight against a real enemy, or to make something more original when a new Strat start.
Maybe living in a vast plain country accustom you to boredom.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: autobus on April 13, 2014, 05:01:03 pm
Thank you otobus ; you understand this but still saying that UIF is logical lol
I think UIF is a gaming community with its own microclimate and relationships and the lack of english speakers in it makes it only logical that fighting between each other will be the last thing they do. You were a part of UIF long enough to understand that.

We as non UIF who dont have enough people that wants to play strategus or strategus battle cant fill roster against UIF ; got it ?

We dont do it because we suck ; even if we try our best we will be outnumbered.
I won't question the truthfulness of your statements but I'm quite sure that grown up men should embrace the problem rather than doing what you guys did. Shunning, crying, making thousands of posts describing how you don't care anymore is what a child would do.
If you value the fun strategus can bring, if you really think that "anti-UIF vs UIF" paradigm is rather destructive due to reduced anti-UIF numbers - have a public discussion on it. Gather every strat leader, everyone who is interested in that discussion, get devs involved and find a way to get over the issue. And most important, make UIF a part of that discussion, don't try to force your solutions on it, i can assure you that strategus dying is the last thing UIF wants and they can collaborate if you ask them.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 13, 2014, 05:11:32 pm
I won't question the truthfulness of your statements but I'm quite sure that grown up men should embrace the problem rather than doing what you guys did. Shunning, crying, making thousands of posts describing how you don't care anymore is what a child would do.
If you value the fun strategus can bring, if you really think that "anti-UIF vs UIF" paradigm is rather destructive due to reduced anti-UIF numbers - have a public discussion on it. Gather every strat leader, everyone who is interested in that discussion, get devs involved and find a way to get over the issue. And most important, make UIF a part of that discussion, don't try to force your view on everyone, i can assure you that strategus dying is the last thing UIF wants.
Believe me we have tried to talk with them but everything they say is *polish accent* What about you take castle and cites, get strong and then we come and rape you.
We do this because we have tried to talk with them and it doesn't work, see? Now when we don't fight uif any more we can fight each other and have some nice battles, and that's exactly what we want
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 13, 2014, 05:17:15 pm
Fixed.


For XP, we need balanced roster.
For a balanced roster, we need players both side.

The war embargo is ruining the little bits of fun we could still have had by possibly making strategus battles unplayable.


I really hope noone follows the lead of the war embargo leaders and just apply en masse everytime they can.

Butan, there hasnt been an even roster since we started playing in case you havent noticed - even before the embargo

With the ignoring of the UIF they are either forced into war with each other or fun battles - either way you get your xp battles. Doing what you suggest will only make the rosters be unbalanced for the rest of strat.

Patience is a virtue  :wink:

Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: autobus on April 13, 2014, 05:23:15 pm
Believe me we have tried to talk with them but everything they say is *polish accent* What about you take castle and cites, get strong and then we come and rape you.
We do this because we have tried to talk with them and it doesn't work, see?
Public thread with devs in it, Arn. Solving issues may be hard sometimes, harder than saying "don't attack us you retards" to first polish guy you see.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 13, 2014, 05:29:22 pm
I think UIF is a gaming community with its own microclimate and relationships and the lack of english speakers in it makes it only logical that fighting between each other will be the last thing they do. You were a part of UIF long enough to understand that.
I won't question the truthfulness of your statements but I'm quite sure that grown up men should embrace the problem rather than doing what you guys did. Shunning, crying, making thousands of posts describing how you don't care anymore is what a child would do.
If you value the fun strategus can bring, if you really think that "anti-UIF vs UIF" paradigm is rather destructive due to reduced anti-UIF numbers - have a public discussion on it. Gather every strat leader, everyone who is interested in that discussion, get devs involved and find a way to get over the issue. And most important, make UIF a part of that discussion, don't try to force your view on everyone, i can assure you that strategus dying is the last thing UIF wants.

I am not saying that UIF is cancer to game.Its fuckin paradox.

I understand DRZ and Grey Order wants to play with but kapikulu , nords , byzantium ? Wtf There isnt even 1 clan that have more or equal with only 1 UIF clan. You can tell us to make a group against UIF but why ? Why should i make alliance with HRE or Fallen or Kinngrimm if i dont like them ? Why shall i force to get a fuckin Axis Allies battle ?

You must understand us also cos i certainly understand and +1 about your thought autobus except taking kapikulu byzantium and nords to UIF.Its paradox we cant find a solution for the two clans that have greatest numbers wants to play with but there isnt any other clans that wants to play with with same numbers.

For the embargo.Its not fuckin childish or crying ; we simply dont want to participate something which will even if we try our best will be just " yea we did good but its UIF ".

Answer this autobus please ; we all know how anti-uif players play , skills or othershit by saying anti-uif i am not talking about clans that are in strategus ; a clan can have a really good player but that guy would a fuckin social and not gonna participate any battle.

So tell me ; even if we fight in everybattle with dicipline and organised , even if we organise really really good trade whats our chance ?

Please give me a clear answer.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: MURDERTRON on April 13, 2014, 05:30:09 pm
So, outside all if the whining, what I'm getting is this:  kalmar and friends attacked DRZ weak points.  Mostly remote villages and fiefs with crime, as well as their trade caravans and trade partners.  Now that DRZ had repelled the whiners and is ready to counter attack, you no longer want to fight then and will apparently sabotage yourself.  Sounds like a lot of bad sportsmanship to me.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: autobus on April 13, 2014, 06:55:36 pm
So tell me ; even if we fight in everybattle with dicipline and organised , even if we organise really really good trade whats our chance ?

Please give me a clear answer.
Although the numbers of active players are somewhat even, I agree that Anti-UIF factions are not organized and can't work as a whole. I do realize that you are united just because you are forced to. If your goal is to defeat UIF then i don't think you have high chances.
Although I'm quite sure you can put up a great fight and have tons of fun doing it, i also realize that playing against the odds is no fun to most of us and that is why i don't suggest you go and fight UIF, i suggest we solve that issue together.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 13, 2014, 07:13:33 pm
I just don't have the answer to this question : what is their goal ? Unite all major clans and divide Calradia in equal parts without a fight ? That's very peacefull, UNO would agree.
Now you can restart Strat again and again, it becomes worst each time.

To force them to fight each other, devs should give a reward to the winning faction (gold, XP, hall of fame or whatever). That way, none of them could say "hmmm, we are pretty big, we won this round".

I just don't understand why the goal for little factions is to defeat UIF, while they have absolutly no goal to reach.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: SayAttack on April 13, 2014, 07:14:53 pm
I was today on one battle for neutrals - a nightmare ... who are these people?
how we can solve that issue together, autobus?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Aksei on April 13, 2014, 07:22:18 pm
The problem is you cant force someone to play like you want. So UIF wont fight each other and the rest wont get together and fight UIF.
its a game and with the million games i can play, its easy to leave a game that i dont like. Usually i would call "anti-UIF" cowards for not just fighting for fun against UIF. But in this case i hear, that this is in every strat the same and they are simply bored of it. For the most people its not the "i will lose" factor, its a never changing fight
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 13, 2014, 07:34:34 pm
You all miss the point.
This is a game, only reason to play it is to have fun.
Now tell me why would i unite with people i don't actually like ? (Not my thought tho i still think we could have fun by forming a gigantic block but i understand lots of people thinking this way and they are right.)
If it was a real battle of course we would unite ,set aside our differences and historical hostility and unite against the upcoming threat. (Like what catholics did against saracens.)
But it is just a game. People don't want to play it with guys whom they don't like. Nothing can force them to do so.
Simple as that.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 13, 2014, 07:53:40 pm
You miss the point : they like themselves so much that they just can't fight each others.
The problem is not little faction who refuse to join, the problem comes from big factions who play together.

The solution : at the end of the strategus round you'd have a winner. Village : 1 point, castle : 3 points; City : 10 points
You are second ? It means you get fucked by your favorite ally. You were too stupid to be his auxilliary instead rallying little factions to your side.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Mr.K. on April 13, 2014, 08:00:09 pm
So, outside all if the whining, what I'm getting is this:  kalmar and friends attacked DRZ weak points.  Mostly remote villages and fiefs with crime, as well as their trade caravans and trade partners.  Now that DRZ had repelled the whiners and is ready to counter attack, you no longer want to fight then and will apparently sabotage yourself.  Sounds like a lot of bad sportsmanship to me.

The idea behind the attacks on Grey and DRZ was to show initiative and afterwards get support from other clans. DRZ is at least four times bigger, if not more than we are and the support we got wasn't as high as we hoped for. Before these attacks DRZ had already wiped us off the map - without us showing any aggression towards them. We tried to unite the rest of the map as individuals against a large common enemy, but received little support and not even roster support.

Call us cowards if you want to, but there was no interest in Strat by most non-UIF clans from the beginning. This shows quite heavily in the rosters and I can't remember doing one single roll call this strat - because we can't even get full rosters, let alone pick the best players... Grey and Druzhina are both well organized clans that are a tough cookie to crack even on even footing, but when they stack odds against us in every way, it's no longer enjoyable for any of us.

Murdertron, we thank your clan for the 10k trade goods though. Well played moving those through the warzone undefended, it really helped our economy. Too bad DRZ doesn't make such mistakes.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Thorondor on April 13, 2014, 08:05:49 pm
pfffff. so much retardation going on this thread including both sides. If I had a little piece of brain, I would quit this game right now. But everyone knows that won't happen. I'll continue to be proud of being so called "strong". and others gonna keep crying about how a bitch and coward I am .

The bitter truth hurts my friends. We're all no lifer idiots.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kalp on April 13, 2014, 08:13:15 pm
You miss the point : they like themselves so much that they just can't fight each others.
I can, but Hetman can't  :mrgreen: I swear each time when I must fight DRZ on siege server  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 13, 2014, 08:15:03 pm
The truth is that we are addicted. Nubspawnrape addiction. Strong dependence. We need help. Give us all your silver. We gather for professional therapy  :wink:

Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Osiris on April 13, 2014, 08:32:02 pm
Although the numbers of active players are somewhat even, I agree that Anti-UIF factions are not organized and can't work as a whole. I do realize that you are united just because you are forced to. If your goal is to defeat UIF then i don't think you have high chances.
Although I'm quite sure you can put up a great fight and have tons of fun doing it, i also realize that playing against the odds is no fun to most of us and that is why i don't suggest you go and fight UIF, i suggest we solve that issue together.


the Anti UIF clans have been putting up a great fight for like 4 strats now :P you don't have fun because all the leaders burn out because you have to put so much effort in to try to organize stuff not just in your own clan but between 5-7 other clans trying to form a block all with different ideas and goals. People spend so much time trying then when it comes down to the battles they are outnumbered and usually have inferior gear. This causes the normal players to not give a crap because who wants to defend a castle for an hour against heavily armed people when you know you cant win?

You cant expect people to just keep forming an anti uif block and screaming and having to organise battles at times that are insane if you have a job until the end of crpg :D They just cant do it anymore so simply wont try
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: kinngrimm on April 13, 2014, 08:50:06 pm
I'm not really into Strat and all but looking at those sieges tonight for the castles... with DRZ and GO as attacking party... the defenders side is kinda full with people... just saying...

For your big plan to work you kinda need to involve all those Strat randomers. Otherwise... well... you'll figure it out.  :?
OdE, Deserters and Vandals showing up on defense in big numbers, well i guess UIF has found themselves some worthy adversary. We will see how long this spark of resistance will last. Only to make this clear perfectly clear to these factions, i wont show up on any roster which would fight GO/DRZ/Kapis. While i rallied players still for the Desert encounter, i wont anymore when it comes to those factions, not because i dislike you, but because i wont loose any more energy on a lost cause. Good Luck for your encounters.

Strategus is all about battles, which can be held without anti-UIF, it worked out well in past with set up fights between UIF, it will work in the future. In fact, that will only benefit those randomers who cba to join factions and just want to play the game as loners.
Even if every single non-UIF member leaves strat, druzhina and GO alone have enough players to fill the rosters and have great fights while having all the map to themselves.
i got no problem with that, let them have the whole map, let them make their fun battles, i and a lot of others wont be a part of it. We just stop playing, lots of us will also stop playing cRPG, too. No point in both things, rather not play a crappy game then give in to fucked up game mechanics which would force us into block wars.

I think UIF is a gaming community with its own microclimate and relationships and the lack of english speakers in it makes it only logical that fighting between each other will be the last thing they do. You were a part of UIF long enough to understand that.
By that kind of logic, i would not have attacked in strat 3, the alliance of HRE/Fallen/GK/Kapis/Byz/Mercs as HRE represented back then most of the german community and i am german, you know speaking the same language ^^. This often ahs tried to be pointed out by GO and DRZ i nthe past, that they the slavik clans which try to stick together . While i see the narrative as valuable to get players and have a cohereance within the clan, i would not accept this as an argumentation of making new allies, as Nebun , Hetman and lots of others speak englsih well enough. Then again, it is not about new alleis, but efighting friends. Where now is there the problem? If they are mature adults, like you implied i would not be one of those, then they can fight wars without loosing their friendships cant they?

I won't question the truthfulness of your statements but I'm quite sure that grown up men should embrace the problem rather than doing what you guys did. Shunning, crying, making thousands of posts describing how you don't care anymore is what a child would do.

If you value the fun strategus can bring, if you really think that "anti-UIF vs UIF" paradigm is rather destructive due to reduced anti-UIF numbers - have a public discussion on it. Gather every strat leader, everyone who is interested in that discussion, get devs involved and find a way to get over the issue. And most important, make UIF a part of that discussion, don't try to force your solutions on it, i can assure you that strategus dying is the last thing UIF wants and they can collaborate if you ask them.
As we haven't tried ... get lost, program some shit to get some balance done, but dont accuse me or anyone we wouldnt have tried discussing this shit with them. The only thing devs sofar have introduced this round is, more micro and more imbalance. So pardon my french, but devs contribution sofar is null and void to the problem. You want me to spill it out for you? Strategus is bullshit the way it is , when it comes to game balanace. People will always try to go the easiest way, the most energy safing, most cost efficient way. In terms of strategus and cRPG it is to get more members in one faction, to have more drones to do stuff , to get faster more ressoruces. Aslong you dont counter that shit aslong you will end up with 2 blocks or well in this case now 1 block ^^.

I and most others who are not UIF, dont want to fight a fast superrior organisation, because there is no fun in it, when you face an adversary which can easily wipe you out. So no we dont want to fight them, as there is no chance of winning involved. Even with all the none-UIF factions involved, i dare say even with the NA clans involved(which would not want to come to EU as we dont want to goto NA(fuck that ping and timedifferentiall). There is no motivation left to struggle when you know up front the outcome.

They asked us not to quit the game, so we dont. But we are also not here for "only" their amusement. We wont do what is not fun for us, if that will then end up also not being fun for them, why would i care, not like in their fucked up minds i should ally to people who are similarily fucked up as they, only to get some battles against them doen.

When the AI fiefs are gone, how many organized good fights you think you still get? Who will fight you OdE surly on their own, because they are the brave once here, right Butan? Oh wait i forgot you are Bubastan now fighting the brave fight to steal S&D and run away with it ^^. Vandals, because they have a grudge against GO? Well AMrtim, i wish you all the best, this is your first Strategus so i can see that you still have a lot more energy for this shit. Deserters because they dont give a fuck in any case ... yeah Bandit faction?


Public thread with devs in it, Arn. Solving issues may be hard sometimes, harder than saying "don't attack us you retards" to first polish guy you see.
bullshit. I spoke my piece and adressed chadz in the announcement for this strat, nothing happens into that direction.  Look at my sig whihc i have for quite a while now. I and others spoke to GO/DRZ/Kapis and the only thing we got is the middlefinger. So well now they got ours.
But hell go ahead, programm some fanzy micromangement BS which then would make the game so much more fun, instead of facing the realities, that without a real effort in balancing, which never happened sofar within Strat, Strat is just an empty husk where huge clans and mega alliances can role over the smaller once. No thank you, i got no interest in that sort of game anymore. So we play it the way we like it and at a time that would be denied to us, we say again, fuck you and would not resist.

damn i even have to agree with Osiris. This game is so fucked up in terms of micromangment when it comes to your own clan. But when i then try to get people organized ... i got no life left for myself, i'd rather go back playing pacman then get all railed up again over this BS. 4 big clans working together is nothing compared of 20+ smalelr factions to get running into the same direction.

Autobus get a fixed diplomatic system going and base balancing onto that. There your solution you wanted to find for us. Bravo well done, move a long. pfffff having the balls to say we would not have tried, would not have made sugestions pffff
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: MURDERTRON on April 13, 2014, 09:31:45 pm
You all miss the point.
This is a game, only reason to play it is to have fun.
Now tell me why would i unite with people i don't actually like ? (Not my thought tho i still think we could have fun by forming a gigantic block but i understand lots of people thinking this way and they are right.)
If it was a real battle of course we would unite ,set aside our differences and historical hostility and unite against the upcoming threat. (Like what catholics did against saracens.)
But it is just a game. People don't want to play it with guys whom they don't like. Nothing can force them to do so.
Simple as that.

Maybe you should stop being such an autist and hating 99% of the community.  Also, to further demonstrate your inconsideration, you don't care if you ruin the UIF's fun.  So, I submit that you are actually the horrible person, and not anyone in the UIF.

Murdertron, we thank your clan for the 10k trade goods though. Well played moving those through the warzone undefended, it really helped our economy. Too bad DRZ doesn't make such mistakes.

Considering you town centered half of them so you could actually get away, I highly doubt they are helping as much as you are saying.  But, I invite you to go back and get them, for the full benefit.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 13, 2014, 10:51:53 pm
'You think you tell us what we do?'
'We not here for you entertainment'.
Eastern European sportsmanship 2014

So that's how we roll now, and you can't dispute those words cos they come straight from your Eastern European overlords.
My new signature :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 13, 2014, 11:18:56 pm
Maybe you should stop being such an autist and hating 99% of the community.  Also, to further demonstrate your inconsideration, you don't care if you ruin the UIF's fun.  So, I submit that you are actually the horrible person, and not anyone in the UIF.

Considering you town centered half of them so you could actually get away, I highly doubt they are helping as much as you are saying.  But, I invite you to go back and get them, for the full benefit.
I would reply to that but i quit taking murricans serious and trying to explain things to em. So yeah he amk anan da oyle diyodu amın evladı...
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on April 14, 2014, 02:19:23 am
"Why don't you all shut up!"
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 14, 2014, 10:24:37 am
Very interesting voters lists at Murdertron post, full of assholes... the truth stings the eyes and cause a violent reaction...

@ autobus - if you treat this situation seriously, do not do that. Wasting of time.

If these assholes want to talk, they should talk, instead of spitting us on forum. ( Remember: talk is not the same as putting unreasonable demands.)

@ grandmom - why Arn, which I never talked to, tries to quote our meeting as a participant. What did you tell him? Pfff Grandmom... pfff  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: ARN_ on April 14, 2014, 11:40:43 am
Very interesting voters lists at Murdertron post, full of assholes... the truth stings the eyes and cause a violent reaction...

@ autobus - if you treat this situation seriously, do not do that. Wasting of time.

If these assholes want to talk, they should talk, instead of spitting us on forum. ( Remember: talk is not the same as putting unreasonable demands.)

@ grandmom - why Arn, which I never talked to, tries to quote our meeting as a participant. What did you tell him? Pfff Grandmom... pfff  :rolleyes:
You might want to know that we are in the same clan and we trust each other and share information, that might be new to you. And with saying this you admit that what I have said is true? :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 14, 2014, 11:48:01 am
Very interesting voters lists at Murdertron post, full of assholes... the truth stings the eyes and cause a violent reaction...

@ autobus - if you treat this situation seriously, do not do that. Wasting of time.

If these assholes want to talk, they should talk, instead of spitting us on forum. ( Remember: talk is not the same as putting unreasonable demands.)

@ grandmom - why Arn, which I never talked to, tries to quote our meeting as a participant. What did you tell him? Pfff Grandmom... pfff  :rolleyes:

How hard can it be to get into your head Harpag, there is hardly anyone left playing strat in the east except randomers and some lonesome clanguys doing occasional trading - most people are tired and at this point dont give a fuck about you or how their clan does in strat.

Yesterday, mercs had a castlesiege - none of their leaders were there, the commanding was left up to one guy that had never commanded (I think)and stated quite clearly that he didnt give a fuck about strat. 20 guys or so left the roster before it ended and we even had GO guys in the roster - ask them about the organisation on the attacking side, ask them what they think about your mighty adversaries, ask them if you are gonna have fun wars later on.

About what Arn wrote, well it wasnt meant to be written here ofc, but whatever - get over it, its not like it anyone cares what the UIF does or wants or anymore - except the UIF itself - what you said just proves you could backstabb or wage war on anyone in the UIF to get the east to play ball again the way you want it - except Druzhina since you have no balls



Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 14, 2014, 12:26:40 pm
Although the numbers of active players are somewhat even, I agree that Anti-UIF factions are not organized and can't work as a whole. I do realize that you are united just because you are forced to. If your goal is to defeat UIF then i don't think you have high chances.
Although I'm quite sure you can put up a great fight and have tons of fun doing it, i also realize that playing against the odds is no fun to most of us and that is why i don't suggest you go and fight UIF, i suggest we solve that issue together.

Otobus ;

What do you want us from ? Are we a retarted clown that makes trade to get a good army so we can defend our fiefs against UIF so they can have fun ?

Tell me how can i motivate my guys ? " Guys we will loose but lets make it like a legend "

Why the fuck i should give my time for a shit if i will loose %100 sure ?

Let me repeat for all drama quenns ; my advise is Let Grey Order and Druzhina be alliance ; I am not going to ask %85 of people who dont know 1 english word to group up with civilized people to play as a team.Kapikulu , Byzantium and Nords should be neutral.

When we have real fun ? Like strategus version 2 ; Let me type the alliances of strategus version 2.0

Risen - Legio - Bashibazouk  a.k.a Triumvirate

Druzhina - Grey Order

Union

Byzantium - Pillagers - Pecores - Nords - Den Bitre

LLJK

Mercs - wolves - bandits

Camels - Soa

Fallen - HRE - GK

So there was a fuckin balance so it was logical to make UIF.

But now the game will finish soon thats why we dont have enough people to play so if you really want to have fun offer something else otherwise all of you work will be nothing.Please read this careful all your e-peen , trade , troops , army ,fiefs will vanish because there wont be anyshit to use them.We all know u choose to fight against an enemy instead of making armies to fight each other.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 14, 2014, 01:24:40 pm
LLJK
Only NA i ever loved .
Superior goon tactics , a.k.a. Allahusnackbar .
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: YnScN on April 14, 2014, 01:59:53 pm
You guys don't like to be forced to do anything to solve the "problem", but you want to force other clans to play as you want because you think that would be more fun. If you think Strategus is not funny anymore don't play it for the fucks sake. You're not compelled to play it whats the point of mourning 3 times a day? Nobody is forcing you to grind 3000000000 troops and lose them all, nobody has to give you a motivation to play it. It's a game and people play it for winning if you don't like the rules or the situation gtfo.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on April 14, 2014, 02:16:36 pm
sit around saying 'nope'

Strategus in a nutshell. If I had drawing skill I would do a signature with most strategus leaders around a table saying "nope" xDDD
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 14, 2014, 02:21:23 pm
You guys don't like to be forced to do anything to solve the "problem", but you want to force other clans to play as you want because you think that would be more fun. If you think Strategus is not funny anymore don't play it for the fucks sake. You're not compelled to play it whats the point of mourning 3 times a day? Nobody is forcing you to grind 3000000000 troops and lose them all, nobody has to give you a motivation to play it. It's a game and people play it for winning if you don't like the rules or the situation gtfo.
We are doing that retard. We dont like the rules so dont play it and telling you to have fun with 30 defender players even on AI battles.

We already get teh fuck out of moron ; learn what we are saying exactly you little piece of iq shit.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 14, 2014, 02:23:32 pm
I remember when you guys first said "Shapen up UIF, or you won't have any fun" and they keep going "UNITE; Get good; don't fight each other; yada yada" and now they are legit raging and getting angry. They went from sarcastic to actual drama. I'm quite pleased with the result.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 14, 2014, 03:09:02 pm
We are doing that retard. We dont like the rules so dont play it and telling you to have fun with 30 defender players even on AI battles.

We already get teh fuck out of moron ; learn what we are saying exactly you little piece of iq shit.

A perfect kurwa example of attempt to convince Kapikulu to fight against the UIF... Siktir!, cehenneme kadar yolun var... Good job Mr. Strawflame  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Umbra on April 14, 2014, 03:18:54 pm
Hey guys i never really played strategus, which side should i join uif i decide to give it a GO?

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 14, 2014, 03:19:45 pm
Hey guys i never really played strategus, which side should i join uif i decide to give it a GO?

There is one side nothing moar.

A perfect kurwa example of attempt to convince Kapikulu to fight against the UIF... Siktir!, cehenneme kadar yolun var... Good job Mr. Strawflame  :rolleyes:

Pathetic harpag ; your cold war brain system think that we are trying break UIF totally pathetic.

We are playing the same fuckin game.If i drown you will too.

I guess we need to go back kinngrimm's idea ; we dont really need to speak get your e-peen max by people that cant even find out how to enter a fief.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: kinngrimm on April 14, 2014, 03:25:55 pm
..., but you want to force other clans to play as you want because you think that would be more fun....
but we dont force anyone to anything but ourselves.

How you act or react is upto you.

We just dont see you anymore as a thread and we wont defend against you. As we were asked not leave and quit, we will stay on the map till either you wipe us, which you would and could have anyways, but now you just can do it faster ...  without resistance. If you dont wipe us, we can have a few wars of our own, we are totally in your hands, you got all the cards.

We are not forcing you to do anything, you can keep holding hands with all your friends. We are not forcing you to go against them. We just wont fight you.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HarunYahya on April 14, 2014, 03:32:33 pm
A perfect kurwa example of attempt to convince Kapikulu to fight against the UIF... Siktir!, cehenneme kadar yolun var... Good job Mr. Strawflame  :rolleyes:
Oh poor Harpag, you still haven't understood.
Kapikulu is already fighting against you; since they are in your team.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 14, 2014, 03:35:28 pm
We are playing the same fuckin game..

That's better. Now you are starting to talk reasonably.

We are waiting for information about what you are willing to promise to improve the game.

We promise that we will do the same.

Do it or enjoy this:

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We need an arbitrator. Who from devs or admins can take this role?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Fips on April 14, 2014, 03:44:34 pm
We need an arbitrator. Who from devs or admins can take this role?

Good luck finding that poor basterd.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 14, 2014, 03:49:32 pm
Okay, negotiations impossible. I blame Fips.  :lol:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Thorondor on April 14, 2014, 03:50:35 pm
Oh poor Harpag, you still haven't understood.
Kapikulu is already fighting against you; since they are in your team.
böyle esprileri kratos filan yapıyo artık amk

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 14, 2014, 03:57:32 pm
That's better. Now you are starting to talk reasonably.

We are waiting for information about what you are willing to promise to improve the game.

We promise that we will do the same.

Do it or enjoy this:

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We need an arbitrator. Who from devs or admins can take this role?
Well we cant really find a solution for it ; the only way we can get make some groups and blindly pick alliances then all for all deathmatch strategus which is not possible :)

Its a paradox anyway.
böyle esprileri kratos filan yapıyo artık amk

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Bence gayet guzel bir espriydi de hepsini geçtim kratosun zekasının onda biri sende yok lan onu napıcan ak
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on April 14, 2014, 04:03:17 pm
Well we cant really find a solution for it ; the only way we can get make some groups and blindly pick alliances then all for all deathmatch strategus which is not possible :)

Its a paradox anyway.

You don't even tried kurwa mać...
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: GRANDMOM on April 14, 2014, 04:06:53 pm
That's better. Now you are starting to talk reasonably.

We are waiting for information about what you are willing to promise to improve the game.

We promise that we will do the same.

Do it or enjoy this:

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We need an arbitrator. Who from devs or admins can take this role?

The problem has been spelled out to you for long time, your answers or approach up untill now has been:

'You think you tell us what we do?'
'We not here for you entertainment'.


Suddenly we have your attention?

Nah, we have already improved the game by excluding you, why should we bother....and I like that you put in an "or else" - good way of getting people to the negotiationtable

I really dont speak for everyone but to me its simple, we play the game we wanna play, the way we wanna play it - you do whatever you like



Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Cicero on April 14, 2014, 04:08:22 pm
You don't even tried kurwa mać...
I did , i can even kurwa mac pierdole cycek
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on April 19, 2014, 01:07:14 am
No problems Greyzhinas !

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kafein on August 04, 2014, 02:20:12 am
Strategus is a multiplayer game, and a multiplayer game usually takes multiple players to be fun. However, it seems pretty much everybody in UIF is not aware of that. Finally the small clans realize they don't have to put up with this bullshit. Ever since the mega-blocks started to appear (i.e. UIF) Strategus is more of a competition in unsportsmanship than anything else. And as I see it, denying the game to those that have doomed it to start with is the winning move.

I still expect UIF to go on with their moronic attitude and conquer the whole map just so they can say they won.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kalp on August 04, 2014, 11:18:02 am
Cool.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 11:35:30 am
Kafein, when there was a freaking giant Templar block owning a freaking huge territory on the map, trying to wipe the few-players clans like us, greys, 22nd, it was OK, yep? :)
UIF was a response to the actions of the Templar block, which was not too concerned about the fun of other small clans. When they were wiping those small clans, they pursued only one goal - their OWN FUN. Blame Fips for that!
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 11:46:14 am
I see no Templar block
When Templar block almost wiped us out, we didn't give up, didn't cry on forums, didn't leave the game, the result - no Templar block on the map.  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 12:07:55 pm
I've long since stopped caring on forums about your block, and i didnt leave or give up, i'm playing a map that is 100x more fun without you. If we fought you, you'd probably enjoy it. And i not here for you entertainment!
Do you think we care? :D
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 12:24:39 pm
HESKEYTIME, several years ago a block was a normal thing, but now this is gayness? Very consistent position. The more you're screaming around that you're so happy now and you're enjoying playing your game, the more I'm convincing that it's not really so.  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on August 04, 2014, 01:35:50 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=2068

useless my old friendgit  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Mr.K. on August 04, 2014, 01:40:39 pm
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesupcoming#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=2068

useless my old friendgit  :rolleyes:

Y u reinforce. We had fun chasing you around the map :mrgreen: Granny even bought the full Harpag gear combo to fight your crate carrying slaves :D
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Keshian on August 04, 2014, 05:47:40 pm
When Templar block almost wiped us out, we didn't give up, didn't cry on forums, didn't leave the game, the result - no Templar block on the map.  :wink:


HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA

No you didn't cry - you just went on the biggest cheating spree in the history of strategus.  Multiple cd accounts, controlling all members cd keys, going behind invisible walls intentionally almost every siege, abusing every possible glitch to win illegitimately.  My personal favorite was the chain of 100 cd keys controlled by drz leader at the time stretching across the map  (all unfactioned on map) to transfer multiple armies all the way across the map in hours (this was when transfer range was 10x farther than it is now).  Sorry but the people not in UIF don't want to resort to cheating to get back at you for killing the EU side of the map leaving no battles for you to have fun.  Your own fault because you are too stupid to realize what would happen having a 300 man block when only 400-500 people left playing strat on eu side.

Enjoy your boring eu side doing absolutely nothing for months on end.  We are having fun in NA - hahahahahaha.


Honestly, the russian clans do this to most games they join - cheat at every opportunity till the game/mod dies.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 07:12:51 pm
HAHAHAHAHABLABABLA
Fixed it for you...

So much truth in your words, if I wouldn't know who you are, I would've surely believed you, but since I and 99% of this community know you very well, please leave your BS to yourself. :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 04, 2014, 09:44:32 pm
There certainly wasnt any multi-accounting, otherwise there would have been a large ban wave focused on particular clans/factions that this community would remember.
There weren't DRZ guys banned in that ban wave.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kafein on August 04, 2014, 10:46:50 pm
There weren't DRZ guys banned in that ban wave.

Ha yes, it was only Greys. Pardon me if I don't see the difference.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Yarl on August 04, 2014, 11:11:16 pm
We won. End of the story. Have fun on NA  :)
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Algarn on August 04, 2014, 11:56:59 pm
Simply being curious, when does this round stop ? December 8th ?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 05, 2014, 12:04:08 am
HESKEY, do you really think cRPG is the only game the DRZ knows? We are a community, we enjoy it, there are many things we do together, cRPG is only one of them. :P
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on August 05, 2014, 12:05:25 am
Ha yes, it was only Greys. Pardon me if I don't see the difference.


and 100 cd keys is only my you nerds... subtle aroma of irony pfff
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on August 05, 2014, 12:09:01 am
hey druzhina and grey order I would just like to know,

что это похоже на жизнь в странах третьего мира?

co to jest jak życie w krajach trzeciego świata?

What is it like living in third-world countries?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on August 05, 2014, 12:11:45 am
No fuckin idea. Why you asking you moron?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 05, 2014, 12:21:32 am
HESKEY, most of mainstream games, we don't wear a banner, a clan tag, we just play together and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: HardRice on August 05, 2014, 02:29:34 am
hey druzhina and grey order I would just like to know,

что это похоже на жизнь в странах третьего мира?

co to jest jak życie w krajach trzeciego świata?

What is it like living in third-world countries?
Russia and Poland are most assuredly not third world countries.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Noodlenrice on August 05, 2014, 03:15:03 am
hey druzhina and grey order I would just like to know,

что это похоже на жизнь в странах третьего мира?

co to jest jak życie w krajach trzeciego świata?

What is it like living in third-world countries?
oh fug dummied
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Keshian on August 05, 2014, 03:42:50 am
HESKEY, do you really think cRPG is the only game the DRZ knows? We are a community, we enjoy it, there are many things we do together, cRPG is only one of them. :P

And I bet you kill those games off too with cheating and mass inundating with countless number of russian drones.  You should be so proud! Cheaters and drones having fun together!

By the way we have a fief again, this time its rindyar castle if you want to go after us like you did in Ichamur (oh wait, sorry that was grey order, you just did all the shit-talking while mama bear did all the work again)
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Dynamics_BRD on August 05, 2014, 04:56:43 am
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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: _RXN_ on August 05, 2014, 11:20:33 am
Russia and Poland are most assuredly not third world countries.

HardRice, seems that he hadn't enough time for school and most of the lessons he learned from mass media.  :wink:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Kalp on August 05, 2014, 11:23:00 am
hey druzhina and grey order I would just like to know,

что это похоже на жизнь в странах третьего мира?

co to jest jak życie w krajach trzeciego świata?

What is it like living in third-world countries?

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Harpag on August 05, 2014, 12:40:44 pm
Simply being curious, when does this round stop ? December 8th ?

Nope. 15th.
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Have fun on NA  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Yarl on August 06, 2014, 12:02:01 am
hey druzhina and grey order I would just like to know,

что это похоже на жизнь в странах третьего мира?

co to jest jak życie w krajach trzeciego świata?

What is it like living in third-world countries?
at least we have beautiful girls everywhere  :)
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Erasmas on August 07, 2014, 01:47:10 pm
This thread is exactly what its topic suggests...
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on September 12, 2014, 10:55:00 pm
There is a way to avoid that kind of retarded alliance.
At the end of each Strat season only 1 faction wins. They'll get reward and glory. The second one, will have nothing, too bad for them if they are stupid enough to be allied with the winner.

We could imagine something like 100k gold and/or a special item (a crown for exemple), or a title for each member of the winning faction.

It could be fun to see all Drz get rewards and Kapiz/Greyz just being fucked up (this is just an exemple, who knows who could be the winner).
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on September 12, 2014, 11:56:12 pm
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No fuckin idea. Why you asking you moron?

at least we have beautiful girls everywhere  :)

So I found the one thing that pisses slavs off the most apparently, you just have to insult their shitty countries lol
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Strudog on September 13, 2014, 08:32:01 am
Strat is no more, rarely hear anything about it anymore. I am not really interested in it anymore, it has become a dull cycle of big alliances. Just drop it and get on with your lives.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Yarl on September 13, 2014, 01:11:46 pm
So I found the one thing that pisses slavs off the most apparently, you just have to insult their shitty countries lol

still have beautiful girls everywhere   :)
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Butan on September 13, 2014, 02:38:37 pm
So I found the one thing that pisses slavs off the most apparently, you just have to insult their shitty countries lol

If USA wasnt already a world-wide accepted joke you would feel the same if you were on the receiving end :P

Derision is good, insults are never welcome.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on September 13, 2014, 05:31:31 pm
If USA wasnt already a world-wide accepted joke you would feel the same if you were on the receiving end :P

Derision is good, insults are never welcome.

world-wide accepted joke? you mean the richest, most powerful, and most influential country in the world? k lol  :lol:
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Artyem on September 13, 2014, 06:36:20 pm
richest

Well, I don't know about that, pretty sure the U.A.E or Qatar have us beat there.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Jack1 on September 13, 2014, 07:17:23 pm
Well, I don't know about that, pretty sure the U.A.E or Qatar have us beat there.
Norway>Qatar>Switzerland>Australia>Sweden>Singapore>USA in GDP per capita
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on September 13, 2014, 07:57:59 pm
Yes, those countries have a higher GDP per person than the united states, but if you want to compare the amount of total wealth a country accumulates (nominal GDP), the USA beats all of their GDPs combined lol.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Andswaru on September 13, 2014, 08:17:59 pm
Your only rich in theory but in pratice your poorer than the average mexican immigrant working in a meat slaughtering factory on the border.Your  owing 31.37% of all the worlds debt, working out at a simple 36,653$ per person alive in the good old US of A. Enjoy.
Oh and thats only what your national goverment owes the world its not including what your individual state goverments have decided to borrow without a solid repayment plan. Makes me proud to be a non american.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on September 13, 2014, 08:49:33 pm
Your only rich in theory but in pratice your poorer than the average mexican immigrant working in a meat slaughtering factory on the border.Your  owing 31.37% of all the worlds debt, working out at a simple 36,653$ per person alive in the good old US of A. Enjoy.
Oh and thats only what your national goverment owes the world its not including what your individual state goverments have decided to borrow without a solid repayment plan. Makes me proud to be a non american.

haha and who is making us pay that debt? we are rich "in pratice" too. dumb europoors

it must be shitty to wake up each day and realize that you are european, I sincerely pity you.

edit: especially if you are polish or russian, god help you
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on September 13, 2014, 10:24:35 pm
Honestly, I would never live in the USA. I was 1 year in Canada and it was enough for me.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Keshian on September 13, 2014, 10:50:56 pm
Yes, those countries have a higher GDP per person than the united states, but if you want to compare the amount of total wealth a country accumulates (nominal GDP), the USA beats all of their GDPs combined lol.

Except china in recent years has passed us in overall GDP.  1.3 billion people yoah
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Chosen1 on September 13, 2014, 10:54:38 pm
Except china in recent years has passed us in overall GDP.  1.3 billion people yoah

? what graph are you lookin at kesh

not only are you a greasy virgin but you hate your own country too, for shame
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Jack1 on September 14, 2014, 12:39:42 am
Except china in recent years has passed us in overall GDP.  1.3 billion people yoah

they haven't, actually. they are just growing much faster than we are.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Algarn on September 14, 2014, 01:13:10 am
they haven't, actually. they are just growing much faster than we are.

And will a day have higher GPD per capita than USA. Note that USA's debt is around 130% (maybe it went to 135/140%) of the USA's GPD. So, if a day China comes to claim what belongs to them, you become actually poorer than Africans.

But we all know that it won't happen, and if it happens, it will create the WW3, and make the Earth look like in Fallout after a few hours from the beginning of a nuclear winter.

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Tovi on September 14, 2014, 02:35:15 am
Gini coefficient (about inequity) :

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Sparvico on September 14, 2014, 03:54:20 am
Chosen truly is the product of a failing education system in this country. Poland and Russia are second world countries, and only if you ascribe to the asinine cold war definition.

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Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: imisshotmail on September 14, 2014, 04:06:33 am
What is hard to understand? Most All of the Western world is subserviant to America in every way, in every treaty, in all military and trade alliances, culturally and economically, so they deserve little to zero respect.

Russia and other members of the Eastern bloc, on the other hand, have always been more of an equal to America, and instead of stealing American cultural values (while simultaneously insulting Americans in blatant displays of European hypocrisy) they have a unique identity, and are actually worthy of respect, admiration, and cooperation towards greater things for humanity.

Death to Western Europeans.
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: MURDERTRON on September 14, 2014, 04:19:16 am
Honestly, I would never live in the USA. I was 1 year in Canada and it was enough for me.

You had enough and quickly scuttled back to your parents' house?
Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Lt_Anders on September 14, 2014, 04:21:56 am
You had enough and quickly scuttled back to your parents' house?

Go read his thoughts in the "Meanwhile in Ukraine" Thread. He's a Conspiracy nut, who believes NATO, THE WEST, and EU, are all some giant conglomerate bent on NWO, etc etc etc etc....

Title: Re: Stupidity
Post by: Algarn on September 14, 2014, 11:27:59 am
Would you mind please creating another generic NA VS EU thread in Off Topic discussions instead of polluting this one please ? Insults are never welcome, even if I've often been standing against UIF, and dislike their way to play strat; I have at least the politeness for my ennemies. And everyone should do so.