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Strategus => Strategus General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandersson Jankins on October 11, 2013, 08:22:00 am

Title: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on October 11, 2013, 08:22:00 am
So I heard through the grapevine that wooden walls were destructible, and didn't believe it until I was placed behind a bunch of wooden walls that were shattered and smashed. RIP New Radoghir Castle

I also heard through the grapevine that you're only required 2500 troops to attack any fief in existence. For example, could you could send your nice 2500 man army to attack a castle with 15000 troops or more in it, and the attack would go through?

Any insight?
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Matey on October 11, 2013, 08:39:38 am
So I heard through the grapevine that wooden walls were destructible, and didn't believe it until I was placed behind a bunch of wooden walls that were shattered and smashed. RIP New Radoghir Castle

I also heard through the grapevine that you're only required 2500 troops to attack any fief in existence. For example, could you could send your nice 2500 man army to attack a castle with 15000 troops or more in it, and the attack would go through?

Any insight?

I heard that too but I haven't been able to get any confirmation and have since decided treat it as false unless proven otherwise.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Butan on October 11, 2013, 04:15:42 pm
Would be beast and unlock most of the wars that have been brought to an end because of stacking of doom (even though its becoming classic to attack with thousands of troops).


Btw, does the god-like amount of defenders tickets can increase the battle time ? 2hours+ strat battles is a reality ?
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: BaleOhay on October 11, 2013, 04:16:41 pm
if a couple of clans are willing to donate 500 troops a piece we would be happy to test it... Would rather not kill the full 2500 of our own for no reason
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Vermilion on October 11, 2013, 06:44:12 pm
Btw, does the god-like amount of defenders tickets can increase the battle time ? 2hours+ strat battles is a reality ?

It's done on the smallest army isn't it? So you would have to attack a 8k+ fief with around 8k troops to get beyond 2 hours.

If you attacked with 2500 I think you would just get the normal 90min, no matter the defending army size.

(I know 4k gives about 2 hours, don't know what the next level up is)

I'm sure EU will quickly find out if this is a rumor or truth (Lots of people attacking Coalition atm and most of their fiefs have over 10k troops). Does hurt to try attacking with 2.5k troops.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 11, 2013, 08:26:37 pm
I'm pretty sure just under 2 hours is the maximum time you can get a strat battle for.  That's why attacking with more than 1800 or so (depending on map you're fighting on) is a waste of tickets (not to mention the spawn timer).
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: KaMiKaZe_JoE on October 11, 2013, 09:10:14 pm
Christ, I get bored after 60 mins, let alone 90 or 2 hours. Fuck that.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Shik on October 11, 2013, 09:37:33 pm
I also heard through the grapevine that you're only required 2500 troops to attack any fief in existence. For example, could you could send your nice 2500 man army to attack a castle with 15000 troops or more in it, and the attack would go through?
pretty sure that's false but don't take my word for it. would be a good way to fix the 1/3 rule problem though
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Vermilion on October 11, 2013, 09:54:41 pm
I'm pretty sure just under 2 hours is the maximum time you can get a strat battle for.  That's why attacking with more than 1800 or so (depending on map you're fighting on) is a waste of tickets (not to mention the spawn timer).

Not when it's a successful attack, the extra spawn time affects both teams. If you're confident you can get a better k/d it can give you the extra time/increase enemy spawn time you need to take the fief.

I know Crusaders pretty much just gave up but still..
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5277
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5128

These two are far more impressive!!
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5358
http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=strategusinfobattledetail&id=5269
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Keshian on October 12, 2013, 01:05:53 am
Christ, I get bored after 60 mins, let alone 90 or 2 hours. Fuck that.

Lol, you guys missed strat 1 - 4 hour battles were the norm, no room for the weak-hearted.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harald on October 12, 2013, 06:59:03 am
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: BASNAK on October 12, 2013, 07:51:01 am
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).

How do I upvote this post more than once?
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Matey on October 12, 2013, 08:10:55 am
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).

Awesome news... any chance of an ETA though? :O
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harpag on October 12, 2013, 09:06:45 am
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).

Waterfalls of tears were not vain  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Vermilion on October 12, 2013, 12:08:48 pm
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).

Great news :)

Thanks for letting us know

(I was pretty close with my guess of 8k troops :) )
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Knitler on October 12, 2013, 12:26:05 pm
In the next update the 1/3 rule will be ignored when you attack with 1.800 or more troops. The maximum battle time depends on the smaller army only: with 1.800 troops you get ~80 minutes, to get the maximum of 3 hours you would need ~9.300 troops with the current formula (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=plot+x^0.56+-+1.15^%28x%2F2000%29+%2B+15+from+x%3D100+to+9300).

It finally happens! I dont even... thats a huge step.!
Thanks for that!
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Butan on October 12, 2013, 01:55:49 pm
I'm happy to hear that but also very sad that we had to wait that much to just hear that the people was right.


Also not holding my breath for the big update as long as there is no ETA.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: GRANDMOM on October 12, 2013, 03:26:09 pm
Praise the Lord!!!
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Bjarky on October 12, 2013, 03:56:39 pm
I'm happy to hear that but also very sad that we had to wait that much to just hear that the people was right.


Also not holding my breath for the big update as long as there is no ETA.
pretty much this
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harald on October 12, 2013, 04:04:26 pm
There won't be a big update, from my side just some changes i was working on here and there in the past weeks for strat update #2. As for ETA, it should happen in week or two. I want to finish a few more things, but if i don't get around to those we will just release what we got so far (after some clean-up and testing).
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: GRANDMOM on October 12, 2013, 05:57:11 pm
There won't be a big update, from my side just some changes i was working on here and there in the past weeks for strat update #2. As for ETA, it should happen in week or two. I want to finish a few more things, but if i don't get around to those we will just release what we got so far (after some clean-up and testing).

I love you Harald, I will leave my wife, and ask for your hand in marriage
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Bittersteel on October 12, 2013, 06:08:56 pm
Good guy Harald
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Swaggart on October 12, 2013, 06:19:16 pm
Lol, you guys missed strat 1 - 4 hour battles were the norm, no room for the weak-hearted those with better shit to do.

ftfy
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Erasmas on October 14, 2013, 03:21:39 am
Fantastic news, thank you  :D :D :D
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Kalp on October 14, 2013, 10:25:08 am
That's why Harald is my number 1 in Supreme Overlord ranking  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harald on October 14, 2013, 10:28:10 am
Does this herald the dawn of a reset though? :O

A reset will most likely come, but we don't have a date yet. First we need to finish the site integration/refactoring old code, then if there is time we can think about adding new features/improving existing mechanics. New stuff would most likely be tested on current data before doing the reset.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Dutchydave on October 14, 2013, 11:50:04 am
Personally I believe the update happen just a few hours ago when the site went down. You would be crazy to not be prepared for the changes right this second anyway. Cant wait, all hell will break lose and especially on EU side of things  :shock:

Thanks Harald we love you!
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Butan on October 14, 2013, 02:19:43 pm
Does this herald the dawn of a reset though? :O


Like Harald said, its one of the step toward it, but it will be tested on the current round.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Segd on October 14, 2013, 03:25:30 pm
New Strat will definitely need some major changes, otherwise you'll lose last players after wipe. :(
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Vermilion on October 14, 2013, 07:44:45 pm
Personally I believe the update happen just a few hours ago when the site went down. You would be crazy to not be prepared for the changes right this second anyway. Cant wait, all hell will break lose and especially on EU side of things  :shock:

Thanks Harald we love you!

Go to c-rpg.net
click on the strategus tab
the general tab

at the bottom you can see "Update #1"
Under is a list of the change log.
When "update #2" is added I'm sure you will see the change log there
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Dutchydave on October 28, 2013, 04:23:58 am
There won't be a big update, from my side just some changes i was working on here and there in the past weeks for strat update #2. As for ETA, it should happen in week or two. I want to finish a few more things, but if i don't get around to those we will just release what we got so far (after some clean-up and testing).

Well its been just over 2 weeks now so guessing its really close?
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on October 28, 2013, 03:11:12 pm
They even restarted servers last night, not sure if they updated anything with it (I was hoping they did)
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Butan on November 02, 2013, 03:32:01 pm
Been 3 weeks now, whats up coding wise ?
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Knitler on November 02, 2013, 09:32:08 pm
Been 3 weeks now, whats up coding wise ?


Quote from: Strategus
DATABASE CONNECTION ERROR

Maybe its updating right now ... idk :D
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harald on November 02, 2013, 09:51:09 pm
Should happen sometime next week, bit low on spare spare-time.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harpag on November 11, 2013, 02:08:54 am
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Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on November 11, 2013, 04:59:52 am
Should happen sometime next week, bit low on spare spare-time.

COME ON MAN IT'S BEEN LIKE 8 DAYS.

RELEASE IT ALREADY.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Butan on November 11, 2013, 12:29:54 pm
Release your anger !  :P
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Vovka on November 11, 2013, 01:58:52 pm
COME ON MAN IT'S BEEN LIKE 8 DAYS.

RELEASE IT ALREADY.
SHUSH!
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harald on November 11, 2013, 02:00:11 pm
It will be released as part of the WPP patch which should happen very soon.
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on November 12, 2013, 04:38:04 pm
It will be released as part of the WPP patch which should happen very soon.

December 2010 soon? :P
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: Harpag on November 12, 2013, 05:28:20 pm
December 2010 soon? :P

December 2010 belongs to chadz, not to Harald, so a little more faith  :wink:
Title: Re: The "1/3 rule"
Post by: njames89 on November 12, 2013, 06:57:16 pm
It will be released as part of the WPP patch which should happen very soon.

HARALD HATH SPOKEN. SOON.