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Title: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 05, 2013, 06:47:31 pm
Nudge = V

Shield Bash = Block + V


So far I've only tested them in DtV and not against real players, anyone have any thoughts from practical experience?
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 05, 2013, 06:49:32 pm
They're really fun, along with powerjumping and sprinting and kicking while running they should all be added to regular battle and siege and dueling.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: karasu on March 05, 2013, 06:53:46 pm
Extra cool shield bash = Hold swing + V



Wish it wasn't so buggy though, it's really helpful in DTV p.e.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: donib on March 05, 2013, 06:56:31 pm
Not sure if trolling
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Thedric on March 05, 2013, 07:05:58 pm
It would be fun to see how shield bash would affect playing as 1h shielder. As a shielder with a short range weapon it can sometimes be very frustrating to fight 2h heroes. Its hard to control the range, and when you do hug them they can still swing in any direction and do a shitload of damage (o_O wheres the logic in that btw ?). So some other offensive option would be appreciated. Dont think its gonna have much impact on the other melee classes, since i imagine a nudge would work similarly to kicks.

In conclusion - im all for it, but then again i mostly play as a shielder, so my opinion is not unbiased.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: XyNox on March 05, 2013, 07:17:38 pm
People tried to shield bash me on dtv. Didnt work. Maybe it has something to do with light armor ?


 E: Couldnt nudge myself either. Wasnt using WSE and had bow and 1h equipped
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Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Patoson on March 05, 2013, 07:23:13 pm
It's hilarious. Nice addition, even if it's only for a couple of game-modes.

Removing the message in between nudges "too early to nudge again" would be nice, since it spams the screen.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Rebelyell on March 05, 2013, 07:31:43 pm
works only on dtv

poor animotion for non shield(looks like hit with stone in hand) imo and I dont really understand how it can work better than kick for non shield players
but still +1 for that anyway
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Jacu on March 05, 2013, 07:34:44 pm
bash is cool.... something good for shielder when they fight fith 2h
but this nudges...? useless
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 05, 2013, 07:35:05 pm
works only on dtv (and rageball)

poor animotion for non shield(looks like hit with stone in hand) imo and I dont really understand how it can work better than kick for non shield players (lol)
but still +1 for that anyway
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Uther Pendragon on March 05, 2013, 07:41:52 pm
Shielders can now be used as launching-pads, to throw you into enemies
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Rebelyell on March 05, 2013, 07:45:07 pm
shielders are getting massive bufs last time
time to respec from non shield sinking boat
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Mlekce on March 05, 2013, 08:33:09 pm
best patch ever. We bullied some people on eu7 with shield bash,and using them to play football and annoy other people.
Best thing ever!
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Kryser on March 05, 2013, 08:34:50 pm
ONLY WORKS ON DTV AND RAGE BALL
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: no_rules_just_play on March 05, 2013, 11:08:56 pm
SHIELDBASH? NUDGE? AWESOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Joker86 on March 05, 2013, 11:13:24 pm
Can somebody explain me how this works exactly, so I can give feedback eventually? I mean the effect it has. Like a successfull kick or what?
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: XyNox on March 05, 2013, 11:16:27 pm
Can somebody explain me how this works exactly, so I can give feedback eventually? I mean the effect it has. Like a successfull kick or what?

Basicly you have to be on a DtV or Rageball server and then you press "V" + attack / block(?), with or without shield. For some reason though I cant get it to work, nor am I affected by shieldbashs or nudges from other players. It might have something to do with your build or equipment loadout.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Kafein on March 05, 2013, 11:24:02 pm
I tested the nudge a little bit, you have to be extremely close and very quick. That's why at least for me, V is a terrible key. Q would have been much better. Or, let us configure it.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 05, 2013, 11:25:33 pm
You can do some nasty feints, Thomas and I were testing it out and going from a swing to suddenly being bashed is literally instantaneous.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: XyNox on March 06, 2013, 12:11:42 am
Just tested it. If I am not mistaken you literally have to touch the targets playermodel to make a nudge/bash connnect. On DtV it was so increadibly funny, I just could not resist do launch some people off a cliff  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Although being a nice gimmick, I hope this never gets included in battle or siege in its current form. Unblockable-insta-megastun is not nice.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Prpavi on March 06, 2013, 12:20:39 am
sure why not, buff shielders more we dont have enough of them  :wink:
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Tydeus on March 06, 2013, 04:07:37 am
Haven't been able to make use of the nudges, too short of range it seems. Shield bash is amazing.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Abay on March 06, 2013, 04:12:16 am
awesome  :D
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Malaclypse on March 06, 2013, 04:16:58 am
Shield bash is amazing fun but would be pretty OP on Battle/Siege/Strategus. Nothing like punting an AFK around DTV with other shielders though, spent hours doing it this morning.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: LordLargos on March 06, 2013, 06:42:15 am
Shield bash is amazing fun but would be pretty OP on Battle/Siege/Strategus. Nothing like punting an AFK around DTV with other shielders though, spent hours doing it this morning.
Too low of range to be OP. Thank god for this defense against people who try to give me a hug congratulating me for my 90+ ping then do 2h ground attack to kill me.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Malaclypse on March 06, 2013, 07:20:08 am
Too low of range to be OP. Thank god for this defense against people who try to give me a hug congratulating me for my 90+ ping then do 2h ground attack to kill me.

Well I just imagine it being sort of like Polestagger was. On it's own it wasn't so bad, but with teamwork it could be brutal (which I was fine with anyways, and poles still haven't been compensated in any way). I'd love to have it on other game modes, tossing dudes off of walls in siege, Strategus shield walls meeting and bodies flying backwards, haha.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Paul on March 06, 2013, 09:29:15 am
I think 1h without shield can also knockdown a backpaddler with the body hook nudge(no attack/block+v). The victim has to be in an attacking anim though iirc.

The left straight (attack+v) should kd someone doing a kick animation.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Patoson on March 06, 2013, 09:39:49 pm
It's a nice and funny feature for DTV (haven't tried Rageball). It has a longer cooldown than kicking and QQV triggers it, which results in yelling while punching the air.  :D
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on March 06, 2013, 09:40:53 pm
Paul imo the nudges could use a bit of a speedup though, they're extremely slow and silly looking atm.
Also, please, if it is possible could nudges be mapped to R and view changing be mapped to v? Ofc Q is another option, personally would prefer R though, and V is just annoying.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Paul on March 06, 2013, 10:33:55 pm
I can talk to cmp about adding additional gamekeys or something so the stuff can be on customizable keys next patch.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: LordLargos on March 06, 2013, 11:21:54 pm
Maybe in the future we could see a shield bash reach stat because as of right now it is fun and useful in dtv when you are backpedaling a bunch of bots but I tried using it in rage ball and the reach ruins it. The Hold attack+V is completely useless and the shield bash usually falls a little short but not as bad.
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Kafein on March 06, 2013, 11:35:00 pm
I can talk to cmp about adding additional gamekeys or something so the stuff can be on customizable keys next patch.

This :D
Title: Re: What do people think of Shield Bashes and nudges?
Post by: Patoson on March 08, 2013, 09:22:26 pm
Tulbuk - best map for nudge.