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Title: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on April 25, 2011, 04:21:00 pm
Now, as a self confessed George R R Martin fanboy, I'd considered myself worthy of a frontline place in the angry mob which would descend on HBO if they scuffed this series up.  However, they did not, and instead I absurdly pleased.  I am as giddy as a schoolgirl at a Justin Beiber concert.

For those of you not in the know, 'Game of Thrones' is based on George R R Martin's Epic Adult Fantasy Series 'A Song of Ice and Fire'.  When I say Adult Fantasy, I relate that it is socially accurate to the time period it reflects, rather than being a contemporary or stylised adaptation.  Also, there is no 'Quest' or 'Dark Lord' or such.  The Story focuses around many different Houses struggling to protect or to claim the Iron Throne of Westeros.  It is a story that is not black and white.  Human beings are human beings, in that, they are not good, nor evil, they are always something in between.

The first two episodes have aired on Sky Atlantic, and I was curious to see if anyone else had watched them.  Personally I think they have done an astounding job.

Trailer:  http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfAE3hIaPm4 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/XfAE3hIaPm4)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Casimir on April 25, 2011, 04:26:15 pm
I haven't watched it but if they are on sky Atlantic i will record them as it sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Babelfish on April 25, 2011, 04:31:02 pm
Always been on the fence with regards to the George R R Martin books. These two last episodes finally pushed me over, and i just bought myself the first book :)
 been the fan of books with one main character per book, but this just looks too good to pass.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: FICO on April 26, 2011, 12:32:34 pm
i'm not fan of martin, but fan of his work. i'm worried that the old fart will die before he finishes the saga. have you seen movie "misery"?  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Baron_Settmour on April 26, 2011, 12:39:50 pm
I read the books a couple of years back and was like, "This would make an awesome HBO series!" Someone freakin' got inside my head because they have put it on HBO just as I imagined. This series is the greatest thing since "Rome." That was an awesome series too.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: FICO on April 26, 2011, 01:22:29 pm
are you from the states?
SUE THEM ALL!!!!!  :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjord on April 26, 2011, 01:36:38 pm
I haven't watched it but if they are on sky Atlantic i will record them as it sounds pretty good.

What are you, stuck in the 90's? Use torrents for Pete's sake.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Diavolo on April 26, 2011, 01:40:25 pm
I think the show is awesome, atleast what Ive seen of it so far. (1st episode) As far as I know its available on most major torrent sites. (probably streamable somewhere too, but I bet you have to live in the right country or something, god I hate that crap)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Leesin on April 26, 2011, 01:52:33 pm
Can't wait for Episode 3, things are really starting to get going already.

Oh yeah, I hate the little Prince, can't wait for him to get his ass whooped, well, I have no doubt he will get his ass whooped, he's just one of those characters.
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Post by: bosco on April 26, 2011, 02:00:49 pm
Acquiring the first episode now... :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 27, 2011, 09:27:46 pm
hey, just finished the second episode. I'm absurdly pleased as well. And it drives me crazy cause parallel I re-read the books (currently A Storm Of Swords) in awaiting of June 12th. Cant wait for all the stuff to come on screen. well done so far.

btw here another thread i started when the 14 minutes teaser was released. http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3617.0.html

oh, and also the 14 minutes preview linked in that thread is strongly recommended for anyone interested.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: BalrogBoru on April 27, 2011, 09:49:33 pm
I've seen the first two episodes and I have to say it is equal both in it's epic awesomeness and it's accuracy. I love it and to anyone who is into fantasy it's a must see.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on April 27, 2011, 09:57:21 pm
I think its actually a pretty damn good adaption so far. it never would have worked as a film, and for a tv show its practically film quality. so no complaints.

if you haven't read the books it would still be a good watch. just good luck understanding it all since compared with books stuff really isn't explained at all. at times it feels the tv show is aimed at people who read the books since they seem to presume the audience knows stuff.

buy the first book and try reading it, no excuse unless you are a retard who doesn't like reading. cause the series is good but it will never be as good, and you will miss out on alot of the story, characters and general depth.

PS:

I dont have sky so I hackzor the links off some pirate's site so I can avoid that "please complete a survey" bullshit.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 02, 2011, 02:13:46 pm
i'm not fan of martin, but fan of his work. i'm worried that the old fart will die before he finishes the saga. have you seen movie "misery"?  :twisted:

I heard his will commands all his manuscripts to be burnt should he expire before their publication.  However, it is worth noting that having something to live for is an incredible deterrent for natural death.  So long as his work remains unfinished, I think he will linger on.  Likely, once the last book is published, he will breathe a sigh of relief then promptly keel over.

Personally, since GoT is the only thing I desire to watch on sky, I torrent it.  Rather than having to bankrupt myself for a load of crap I don't need.  The makers will get my money when I buy the dvds.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: okiN on May 02, 2011, 02:46:05 pm
if you haven't read the books it would still be a good watch. just good luck understanding it all since compared with books stuff really isn't explained at all. at times it feels the tv show is aimed at people who read the books since they seem to presume the audience knows stuff.

buy the first book and try reading it, no excuse unless you are a retard who doesn't like reading. cause the series is good but it will never be as good, and you will miss out on alot of the story, characters and general depth.

I dunno, I haven't really had trouble understanding any of it so far, seems pretty straightforward. I'll probably read the books at some point, but I'm not in a hurry, I've managed to live without them so far.  I have enough shit on my reading list.

Also, I dig the main theme. Epic strings and drums.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 02, 2011, 04:17:53 pm
I dunno, I haven't really had trouble understanding any of it so far, seems pretty straightforward. I'll probably read the books at some point, but I'm not in a hurry, I've managed to live without them so far.  I have enough shit on my reading list.

Also, I dig the main theme. Epic strings and drums.
Probably after watching the last episode of this season you'll want to know how it continues too much so you'll start reading. :)

Other than that good to hear that you enjoyed it without knowning the books, its very hard to imagine how it would be without having read everything before.

 the good thing is that the main theme is (or still seems to be epic) but the smaller ones are epic in its own ways. I'm very curious how good theyll catch the deeper layers of many characters for example Jaime, Cersei or the Hound. And I'm very curous how Littlefinger will appear in the show. The actor of "Tommy Carcetti" was one of my favourites in "The Wire" and I imagine he fits perfectly into the role of Petyr Baelish.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: 22nd_Earl_NoscopeGabe on May 04, 2011, 08:12:10 pm
Ep 3 was epic
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: FICO on May 04, 2011, 10:56:53 pm
well, i'm not bragging  :twisted: but i had to wait three weeks to see episode that i haven't seen before
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjarky on May 04, 2011, 11:21:32 pm
Love this series, epic, they really outdid themselves on this one :D
Uff and now we have to wait for the next ep....
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: ShinySpoons on May 05, 2011, 05:05:35 am
I don't have cable and don't enjoy watching shows on my dinky monitor so I plan on just buying the dvds once their out. Glad to know people have enjoyed it. Wonder if it'll come out on blu-ray...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on May 05, 2011, 06:12:13 am
Game of thrones is a really good serie :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Immolarian on May 05, 2011, 04:07:10 pm
Just watched the first episode, seems to be pretty boring. Way too much sex and hardly any action.  :|
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 05, 2011, 04:20:33 pm
Just watched the first episode, seems to be pretty boring. Way too much sex and hardly any action.  :|
mh, who told you this is about action? I thought it was pretty clear by the trailers and promotion of HBO that this is rather a Fantasy Drama then Fantasy Action Series. Of course I could tell you there is plenty of Action and also some great battles to come especially in the second season. But if you don't like to take the time to get into a more complex story and many different characters this is certainly not for you.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Immolarian on May 05, 2011, 09:28:45 pm
mh, who told you this is about action? I thought it was pretty clear by the trailers and promotion of HBO that this is rather a Fantasy Drama then Fantasy Action Series. Of course I could tell you there is plenty of Action and also some great battles to come especially in the second season. But if you don't like to take the time to get into a more complex story and many different characters this is certainly not for you.

I guess its nothing for me then, the english accents are horrible to listen to anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 05, 2011, 09:34:57 pm
Westeros accents.  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Casimir on May 06, 2011, 01:52:19 am
Its good.

More tits for better programmong seems to be HBOs philosophy.

I like HBO.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 06, 2011, 11:02:39 am
Its good.

More tits for better programming seems to be HBOs philosophy.

I like HBO.
At least you get real tits there, not only implants like in Hollywood.  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Siiem on May 06, 2011, 11:05:54 am
At least you get real tits there, not only implants like in Hollywood.  8-)

Atleast you get to view them.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjarky on May 06, 2011, 11:19:35 am
Atleast you get to view them.
u get a cookie, hope this makes it better  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Sharky on May 06, 2011, 11:30:56 am
Seems well done and really interesting so far
I guess its nothing for me then, the english accents are horrible to listen to anyway.
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English accents are cool, you just have to get used to them. I didn't read the book, but the serie so far seems very interesting combining fantasy with this quite harsh and uncensored (HBO style!) depiction of a medieval world
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Post by: FICO on May 06, 2011, 11:59:44 pm
Way too much sex
whaa? too much of what?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: HarunYahya on May 07, 2011, 01:14:20 am
Very very very good series !
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on May 07, 2011, 07:54:27 am
lol sean bean always has his sheffield accent no matter what universe hes in
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Post by: Leesin on May 07, 2011, 11:23:30 am
Not like he needs another accent, he's Sean motherfucking Bean.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 07, 2011, 12:10:41 pm
I guess its nothing for me then, the english accents are horrible to listen to anyway.

There weren't any Americans in the middle ages.  (cue 'this is fantasy' argument)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: bosco on May 07, 2011, 12:10:46 pm
Very very very good series !

Indeed.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Peasant_Woman on May 07, 2011, 04:14:43 pm
Started watching some episodes the other day and it's pretty good, far better than the normal shovelseries you get on tv.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Immolarian on May 07, 2011, 11:11:06 pm
whaa? too much of what?

Watch the first episode and you know what I mean.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Tor! on May 07, 2011, 11:46:14 pm
Very very very good series !

Cant wait until monday!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 08, 2011, 12:00:32 am
Watch the first episode and you know what I mean.
sarcasm fail.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjarky on May 10, 2011, 11:47:52 am
ah yeah, yesterday was a good day, ep4 was a pretty nice watch  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Motorsheep on May 10, 2011, 12:45:31 pm
Not enough sex though.


...


 :D


I'm a lazy bastard, and probably dumb too for preferring easy reads. So I found the books a little exhausting to follow, what with all the different characters and parallel story lines, but the series is doing quite a good job in that respect. I do need a few things explained here and there by people who read the book, but that's also because I'm not a native speaker and I don't always entirely understand what they're saying.
I do love the accents though...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 16, 2011, 12:56:34 pm
This series just keep on getting better. I can't believe they made my favourite books into a TV series. I'm a happy man
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjarky on May 16, 2011, 01:41:34 pm
yeah, the series is pretty damn awsome, alot of suspense, especially today in the end :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 16, 2011, 02:07:32 pm
Spoilers/comments for episode 5.

nerf throwing lances.

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Post by: Nessaj on May 16, 2011, 05:00:10 pm
Hmm, it seems after all that the pierce damage on the Long Dagger is justified :D

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I've done this to many peasants!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Immolarian on May 16, 2011, 05:37:27 pm
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
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Post by: Murmillus_Prime on May 16, 2011, 05:47:27 pm
Ah tis was a good episode but... Now the long wait til the next episode... ARGH... I hope the Starks get revenge!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: okiN on May 16, 2011, 05:50:16 pm
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...

Nobody's making you watch. If you're only interested in action, there's plenty of movies out there that'll suit you better.

Also, no untagged spoilers kthx.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 16, 2011, 06:48:17 pm
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
interesting, so your still watching? didnt you said the series is nothing for you?

its really getting better and better. episodes 4+5 were top notch. I loved both appearances of the mountain that rides. The poor horse, reminded me of this game as well.

Don't open spoiler if you didn't read the books.
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Ronan on May 16, 2011, 09:20:29 pm

Don't open spoiler if you didn't read the books.

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Dont read unless u read the first book:
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Post by: Timotheusthereal on May 16, 2011, 10:02:10 pm
I watch episodes because of Sean Bean  8-)

Dont click on the spoiler if you haven't read the first book
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 16, 2011, 10:22:05 pm
I watch episodes because of Sean Bean  8-)

Dont click on the spoiler if you haven't read the first book
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Leesin on May 17, 2011, 01:52:49 am
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...

As already mentioned, you said it was crap, yet you're still watching it and as also mentioned, there are plenty of shitty shows out there with lots of action in that you can go watch. So I am puzzled why you're still complaining, lol.

Series 1 is great so far, really getting into the story, the pacing is nice and gives time for the viewer to learn who's who and about the history of Westeros, but at the same time it isn't too slow for me for it to become boring. The characters are fantastic and seemingly have the right actors suited to the parts.
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Post by: bilwit on May 17, 2011, 06:33:12 am
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Post by: bosco on May 17, 2011, 10:41:11 am
Awesome  :lol:
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 17, 2011, 10:46:09 am
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exactly my thoughts.

@ronan: actually i loved the picture of the Lord Robert and his mother sitting high on that scuril chair and Catelyn and most of all Tyrion watching up in awe, thinking:"what the fuck?"

awesome leather jerkin!
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Post by: Leesin on May 17, 2011, 01:36:26 pm
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Nice! but Jaime Lannister is a huge douche.  :D
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Post by: Joxer on May 17, 2011, 07:34:38 pm
Talking bout ep5...
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 18, 2011, 07:33:24 am
I didn't remember that the knight of flowers was gay in the book, is that right or just in the tv show?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Astinus on May 18, 2011, 07:50:05 am
I didn't remember that the knight of flowers was gay in the book, is that right or just in the tv show?
it was never clearly stated, but there were lots of hints about that
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 18, 2011, 10:14:43 am
it was never clearly stated, but there were lots of hints about that
yeah, there are hints but I never got them, too.
I think they did a great job keeping close to the books whilen changing/interpreting some stuff more fitting for this media. You also have to keep in mind that the books are allways written from limited perspectives of a few characters. You simply can't do that on TV/movies (IMO), so it makes perfect sense to invent scenes like the ones between Varys and Petyr or Renly and Loras and flesh out things that are only mentioned marginally in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 18, 2011, 12:16:36 pm
Okay. At first i thought this series is gonna be lame. For example take the over-americanized-oiled-womens-dream with delicate eyebrows and beard Khal Drogo.
Some things just were "too smooth" in the show.

But now after watching the 5th Episode i have to say they did a great job with the cast and apart from the minor flaws its pretty good actually.
It leaves me yearning for more.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 19, 2011, 10:02:38 pm
I didn't remember that the knight of flowers was gay in the book, is that right or just in the tv show?

Christ, some people seriously need better gaydar.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Leesin on May 20, 2011, 10:27:25 am
Knight of flowers, even his name made me think he was a poofter.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 21, 2011, 06:10:44 am
the book didn't have an explicit homoerotic scene like the tv show i don't think.
anyway HBO likes to show lots of smut, etc
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Trippin on May 21, 2011, 11:23:28 am
You little nerds need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of medieval knight or whatever nerd shit you little aspies do.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on May 21, 2011, 03:03:43 pm
You little nerd need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of forum troll or whatever nerd shit you do.

Here fixed just for you
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: okiN on May 21, 2011, 03:20:12 pm
You little nerds need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of medieval knight or whatever nerd shit you little aspies do.

Randomly hating on people on the internet in a puerile and trite manner.
Accusing other people of being immature and having social disorders.

Oh, you.
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Post by: Varric on May 21, 2011, 09:15:36 pm
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Post by: Ujin on May 22, 2011, 10:37:02 am
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Lol,my thoughts exactly =). The guy's approach is too straight-forward.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on May 22, 2011, 10:49:21 am
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Post by: Banok on May 22, 2011, 10:55:04 am
anyway episode 5 was one of the best, although the series is all about the plots, I did love to finally see some sword fights :D

and yeah ned starks character is not that smart, but hes still awesome. and characters with flaws are more realistic and so more interesting don't ya think?

I ordered the book decided to read it again, defo dont remember any bumsex.
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Post by: Olwen on May 22, 2011, 11:14:03 am
yeh, it was damn lame, and fuck dual wielding
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Joxer on May 22, 2011, 05:05:45 pm
Calls us aspies and what is he himself doing? Trolling online.  :lol:
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Post by: Timotheusthereal on May 23, 2011, 11:12:21 am
Bullshit Khorin!

You really want to be an overman!
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Post by: Bjarky on May 23, 2011, 11:12:59 am
epic the 6th  8-)
muhahahahaha
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Post by: Murmillus_Prime on May 23, 2011, 04:00:16 pm
Here's your golden crown!!!!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on May 23, 2011, 05:37:02 pm
6th episode featured brief glimpse of vagina.
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Post by: Wildling on May 23, 2011, 06:22:48 pm
Best one yet.... Just, fucking awesome.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 24, 2011, 12:33:19 am
For episode 6. If you are too dense to work out what Ned stark realised:

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Post by: Leesin on May 24, 2011, 12:50:38 am
For episode 6. If you are too dense to work out what Ned stark realised:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: FICO on May 24, 2011, 08:22:32 am
i don't think that's the only reason for them to shag.

but there is something what is in the books, and i don't know if it's gonna be in the series. targaryen kings used to shag their sisters in order to keep their blood line pure
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 24, 2011, 01:54:09 pm
i don't think that's the only reason for them to shag.

but there is something what is in the books, and i don't know if it's gonna be in the series. targaryen kings used to shag their sisters in order to keep their blood line pure
why should it be different in the series? But your right, as far as i recall they didn't mentioned it so far.

Its getting really better and better. And the story is slowly getting started as well.
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Post by: Banok on May 25, 2011, 12:34:08 am
anyone see episode 7?

link: http://www.vidxden.com/umq1id3ssx2a/52_got.1x07.webrip.bollo_5a546.flv.html

shit finally hit the fan!

I would consider the first 7 episodes like an introduction, a brief one too ;)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on May 25, 2011, 12:44:26 am
episode 7 isnt out yet
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on May 25, 2011, 01:14:33 am
its in the link above :D

fyi it came out a week early exclusive to some thing or other but then the whole series was supposed to be exclusive and I've been watching it all online before it even airs on tv in my country.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Banok on May 25, 2011, 01:22:09 am
cant believe theres only 3 more episodes then we have to wait a year for more, I've been addicted... its a good job the 5th book is coming out between then!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Nessaj on May 25, 2011, 01:31:30 am
episode 7 isnt out yet

It aired on HBOGO.com directly after episode 6.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: BlameMeForTheNoise on May 25, 2011, 02:27:16 pm
I shouldn't have watched the 7th already. Now i have to wait TWO WEEKS!

But Book 3 and 4 arrived this morning. Some reading to do in between weeks.  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Leesin on May 25, 2011, 03:31:53 pm
Yeah after watching episode 7 I realised I will have to wait longer to see the next one lol. Can't wait for Episode 8, 7 ended on such a good part I just need to know what happens next lol.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Varric on May 25, 2011, 06:11:02 pm
Haven't watched Ep 7 yet, I'll wait  :).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 25, 2011, 06:45:46 pm
Haven't watched Ep 7 yet, I'll wait  :).
I was close to get me ep7 but it isn't available in the quality I usually got, so I decided to wait. I'm glad I did so by now.

I'm also glad that the show seems to have steady growing viewer numbers. I really couldn't bear it if the series was cancelled. Besides I'm already appointed with an old friend in about 7-10 years to be locked in somewhere with enough provisions of different sorts and watch the whole show in one, only interrupted by the needs of sleep... :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: AlbaTiger on May 28, 2011, 07:53:17 am
I finally got caught up, couldn't sleep so stayed up all night watching episodes 5-7.

Must say I am liking the show a lot more than I thought I would, not that it is a bad show, the acting is great and the quality of the production as a whole is fantastic, it is just that I expected it was a tad too "high fantasy" for me.

I'm more of a fan of low fantasy which focuses on regular people than great heroes or in this case kings and gentry, but I have been pleasantly surprised both by the strong normal/lower characters and indeed (in places) the very normal/down to earth ways some of the nobility act.

All the political scheming is one aspect of the nobility I am just as interested in as the every day lives of the common people and lower soldiers, yeah I do rather like the Nights Watch stuff. There are still times where I think "oh no not another scene just to show that a noble is extravagant or lecherous or whatever" but I can survive those by knowing some awesome interesting thing will be just round the corner.

Also Sean Bean is awesome...even if there was far less of the stuff that interested me I would probably watch just for him. Well him and Arya Stark cause her character is brilliant.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Joseph on May 28, 2011, 08:46:13 am
BOROMIR, I am definitely watching this show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: bosco on May 28, 2011, 10:21:24 am
Episode 7 was great... and proved that tincans have a hard time attacking AGI chars!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: FICO on May 28, 2011, 10:46:37 am
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well... while reading, you often forget that the setting is fantasy world. it's more about politics and about what's inside of people's head. you can understand each character why did he do what he did. and after bit of thinking you can conclude - i'd maybe do something simmilar
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: AlbaTiger on May 28, 2011, 06:22:45 pm
I can well imagine that, the typical fantasy elements seem pretty subtle and usually only mentioned in passing, at least so far.

From that perspective I guess it isn't really a high/low fantasy thing just me not liking the Lords and Ladies scenes which are nothing but them being extravagant to batter the audience over the head with the fact they are rich and powerful which is something that does appear a little too often in the show for my liking.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 30, 2011, 05:26:41 am
Epic lesbian scene!
Also a Randy Savage style performance by the barbarian king dude.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Bjarky on May 30, 2011, 07:12:17 am
well i hope ep 8 gets pre released too, since i already saw ep 7 last week  :mrgreen:
argh the waiting is killing me   :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: MadJackMcMad on May 30, 2011, 02:10:09 pm
Something of an 'O SHIT' moment at the end there.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 30, 2011, 07:39:50 pm
Littlefinger: "Play with her ass"
don't remember that scene in the book.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Astinus on May 30, 2011, 10:43:53 pm
Littlefinger: "Play with her ass"
don't remember that scene in the book.
well there is no littlefinger's point of view in the books so far, the whole scene seems to be a way to tell people about Petyr's love
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: okiN on May 30, 2011, 11:05:25 pm
Something of an 'O SHIT' moment at the end there.

Fairly obvious one, though, especially given the scene those guys mentioned. :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Knute on May 31, 2011, 12:34:38 am
Something of an 'O SHIT' moment at the end there.

Don't read if you haven't seen latest episode.
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: AlbaTiger on May 31, 2011, 01:38:42 am
A lot of the sex scenes seem pretty thrown in at random, I assume they aren't in the books.

And yeah Knute it seems that way, heck even Ned himself seems to be as close to that as a main character can be.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Varric on May 31, 2011, 01:53:26 am
The sex scenes are verily excessive.

This episode is awesome, things are heating up :o.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 31, 2011, 02:06:26 am
Yeah, I guess you wouldn't want your ten year old kid to see the lesbian anal fisting, although there is also plenty of blood and gore as well.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: AlbaTiger on May 31, 2011, 02:52:42 am
Yeah, I guess you wouldn't want your ten year old kid to see the lesbian anal fisting, although there is also plenty of blood and gore as well.

Ahaha, while I have no love for the american broadcasting view that violence is fine but sex is evil and wrong I don't feel that the addition of sex for no reason other than so you can say there is sex in the show is a good thing.

When it's actually part of the plot or sets up an important scene then that is okay.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on May 31, 2011, 07:31:23 pm
When is episode 8 gonna release?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on May 31, 2011, 08:02:54 pm
No spoilers, real or fake, kthxbai.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Mtemtko on May 31, 2011, 08:08:16 pm
No spoilers, real or fake, kthxbai.

OR BAN!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on May 31, 2011, 08:42:43 pm
No spoilers, real or fake, kthxbai.
good job! I dont have admin powers so I tried to discredit the spoilerer ;)

When is episode 8 gonna release?

5th/6th depending on country

heres the preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AoQQjkL2gc
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on May 31, 2011, 08:47:38 pm
good job! I dont have admin powers so I tried to discredit the spoilerer ;)

5th/6th depending on country

heres the preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AoQQjkL2gc

Thx :) cant wait to see it, awesome serie!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Broc on June 02, 2011, 12:26:49 am
Any thoughts on episode 7? I was expecting an epic fight at the end :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on June 03, 2011, 12:21:23 am
Episode 7 was a really good one, also i think there are gonna be a huge fight in episode 8!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 03, 2011, 12:25:54 am
Well Riverrun is going to be under siege as Tywin commanded jaime to do so.

excellent guide and map if you are lost

http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/ (http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/map/)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Broc on June 03, 2011, 12:26:19 am
Episode 7 was a really good one, also i think there are gonna be a huge fight in episode 8!
Yeah, things are finally starting to move along.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on June 03, 2011, 10:10:18 pm
Yeah, things are finally starting to move along.

Well, things have been moving along already, considering they are trying to be as accurate as possible to the books ( within reason and/or entertainment purposes ) and also have to introduce all of the characters, locations, situations and some basic knowledge on the world, I think the pacing has been brilliant.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Noctivagant on June 04, 2011, 05:26:31 am
have seen all 7 (with previews 10) in one night well here is my review,

Since my dear SG Universe is cancelled I had to watch something else,

Its good, but typical PONR&VIOLENCE of HBO. Its a surprising show that main characters might get killed. Its brilliant that Jason Momoa will make you feel shit about yourself. Expensive decorations good visual effects enough boobs and butts but its absolutely butchering the original content....NOT for the first time HBO did a very good job, its sticking to the original content (books you chump)

can't wait June 6th for the next episode
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 04, 2011, 08:39:28 pm
wasn't bronn the sellsword supposed to be young and laddish not old and solemn?

plus I think cersei is not even remotely as sexy or cruel as she should be, people have mentioned before the downplay of the bond between the direwolves and the stark children. people prolly wont even make the connection later on.

plus im curious for non book reading watchers how obvious it was that prince jofrey wasn't roberts son, cause it was a pretty clever twist in the book but maybe it was too obvious in the tv series?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 04, 2011, 09:17:04 pm
Well, the first episode completely gave that one away. Didn't the book make it clear that Bran had caught the pair of them in the act?

Anyway, Bronn may not have been young in the TV show, but I'd hardly call him solemn. :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2011, 10:33:07 pm
Well, the first episode completely gave that one away. Didn't the book make it clear that Bran had caught the pair of them in the act?

Anyway, Bronn may not have been young in the TV show, but I'd hardly call him solemn. :lol:
Of course Bran caught them them in the act as well in the book, but somehow you don't think that the children are Jaimes. Most of the differences between the books and the series come from POV-telling in the books. There are no POVs of Cersei, Jaime, Littlefinger, Lord Varys, etc. in the first Book. You only come to know them from the viewpoint of a Stark character. I think that makes this characters appear more mysterious and you have less sympathy and understanding of their actions.

Cersei is well pictured for my taste. Bronn I imagined more broad-shouldered but in about the same age. Don't remember how old he should be. Also was somewhat disappointed to see Tywin Lannister laughing. But the scene in general, him disembowel and flay the stag (Roberts Banner) all the time, great!

The only actor I really can't get warm with is Jon Snow, but ahh, can't be everything nearly perfect.


Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AlbaTiger on June 05, 2011, 01:00:08 am
im curious for non book reading watchers how obvious it was that prince jofrey wasn't roberts son, cause it was a pretty clever twist in the book but maybe it was too obvious in the tv series?

The clues are there but there is so much other stuff going on and attention isn't really drawn to the clues. Not to mention that the whole issues of the succession isn't really mentioned that much, I mean it is but you don't expect anything to come of it any time soon and just kinda put all that stuff in the big bin marked "noble arsehole."

I certainly didn't catch it until the reveal.

The only actor I really can't get warm with is Jon Snow, but ahh, can't be everything nearly perfect.

Yeah, most of the other actors either through their own skill or the writing create some kind of feeling be it positive or negative, but Snow is just kinda...there...

I'm far more interested in the other Night's Watch.

Part of it may be that his "tough background" which we are meant to feel sorry for pretty much all happens off screen, apart from being called Bastard now and then. Not to mention the number of ways he gets put in his place during the Watch training which shows how much worse many of the others have had it.

He isn't "evil" or annoying enough to hate though he is arrogant at times, he isn't downtrodden or unskilled enough to get underdog sympathy, and he hasn't really done much that is "good" except for saving the pups and protecting the fat guy.

From a writing standpoint he is a very neutral character, whether that is affecting the actor, or the actor is just very kinda average too I don't know.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 05, 2011, 05:37:13 am
well I dont remember liking jon snows character in the books, I like reading his POV tho. hes one of thos main chars/heros like harry potter who you just kind of think is a bit of a twat.

one the most likeable chars in books is maester aemon. and in series so far hes come across as an anoying old grandmother. fyi im talking about this guy
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anyway just clarifying im nit picking since im bored, overall I still think its a great adaption.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 06, 2011, 02:45:32 pm
Downloading Ep. 08 right now, 'tis gonna be interesting :D.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Astinus on June 06, 2011, 05:36:45 pm
The lack of the Black Fish made me sad and I still hope to see Roose Bolton in the next episode...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 06, 2011, 05:47:24 pm
Downloading Ep. 08 right now, 'tis gonna be interesting :D.
great episode. I'd like to say things are finally starting to move along if it hadn't been said a couple of episodes before. Also well written by George Martin of course.

should the blackfish be there already? can't remember really what was in the first and what in the second book. Was surprised by a few things already happening in this season.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 07, 2011, 04:16:17 am
The lack of the Black Fish made me sad and I still hope to see Roose Bolton in the next episode...

oh yeah wheres black fish? :( was he in the vale at first?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 07, 2011, 06:16:51 am
SPOIL
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Immolarian on June 07, 2011, 02:01:15 pm
Finally some action coming up.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 07, 2011, 02:19:38 pm
Just watched the first episode, seems to be pretty boring. Way too much sex and hardly any action.  :|
mh, who told you this is about action? [...]
I guess its nothing for me then[...].
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
Nobody's making you watch. If you're only interested in action, there's plenty of movies out there that'll suit you better.
Finally some action coming up.
???

Perhaps you like the non-action parts more than u thought, or why are you still watching? Only to wait for action?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Wookimonsta on June 07, 2011, 02:54:55 pm
joffrey kills dumbledore
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Thucydides on June 07, 2011, 04:59:38 pm
joffrey kills dumbledore

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 07, 2011, 05:50:30 pm
there is a lot of cock being shown lately
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 07, 2011, 08:51:02 pm
there is a lot of cock being shown lately
but of very different quality.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 07, 2011, 11:28:49 pm
there is a lot of cock being shown lately

I don't notice the cocks around,

I have no buisness with this.  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: chadz on June 08, 2011, 01:31:14 am
So.. having no knowledge of this series in advance, I feel the urge to spout my opinion:
Episode 1 was a huge letdown for me:
The first scene I thought it was some kind of Warcraft meets Romero movie. Blahblahblah evil zombiedemons blah. From the 3 lines I heard about it beforehand, I was hoping for less cheesy fantasy and more "realistic" fantasy, and then this as the first scene... *sigh*

Well, after that it didn't take long untill I had to burst out in laughter, seriously, this was not necessary:
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Half an hour later I fell asleep. Nothing was happening. I'm not talking about action, I am talking about some story unfolding. There was none. Just a bunch of families that are in no way connected having a first appearance.

So yeah, a few days later, I woke up early, thought I'd give it another try and was hooked. Watched all 8 episodes without a break, can't wait for the next one. I still think the 1st episode was not well planned, especially the beginning, but if you get past that one, it's awesome.

Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.

Edit: one last rant: (episode 5 or 6?)
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Post by: Earthdforce on June 08, 2011, 02:11:41 am

Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.


Now I'm interested, I'll have to watch this show!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 08, 2011, 04:40:41 am
So.. having no knowledge of this series in advance, I feel the urge to spout my opinion:
Episode 1 was a huge letdown for me:
The first scene I thought it was some kind of Warcraft meets Romero movie. Blahblahblah evil zombiedemons blah. From the 3 lines I heard about it beforehand, I was hoping for less cheesy fantasy and more "realistic" fantasy, and then this as the first scene... *sigh*

Well, after that it didn't take long untill I had to burst out in laughter, seriously, this was not necessary:
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Half an hour later I fell asleep. Nothing was happening. I'm not talking about action, I am talking about some story unfolding. There was none. Just a bunch of families that are in no way connected having a first appearance.

So yeah, a few days later, I woke up early, thought I'd give it another try and was hooked. Watched all 8 episodes without a break, can't wait for the next one. I still think the 1st episode was not well planned, especially the beginning, but if you get past that one, it's awesome.

Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.

Edit: one last rant: (episode 5 or 6?)
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Never expect too much for a show/movie, you shall always be satisfied.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on June 08, 2011, 09:33:25 am
Sharpe is not pleased with chadz for the bad words about the fight choreography.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 08, 2011, 11:00:32 am
So.. having no knowledge of this series in advance, I feel the urge to spout my opinion:
Episode 1 was a huge letdown for me:
The first scene I thought it was some kind of Warcraft meets Romero movie. Blahblahblah evil zombiedemons blah. From the 3 lines I heard about it beforehand, I was hoping for less cheesy fantasy and more "realistic" fantasy, and then this as the first scene... *sigh*

Well, after that it didn't take long untill I had to burst out in laughter, seriously, this was not necessary:
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Half an hour later I fell asleep. Nothing was happening. I'm not talking about action, I am talking about some story unfolding. There was none. Just a bunch of families that are in no way connected having a first appearance.

So yeah, a few days later, I woke up early, thought I'd give it another try and was hooked. Watched all 8 episodes without a break, can't wait for the next one. I still think the 1st episode was not well planned, especially the beginning, but if you get past that one, it's awesome.

Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.

Edit: one last rant: (episode 5 or 6?)
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Nice you started liking it after all :)

Its allways funny to see what expectations make you think and perceive.
For me the first episode was an unexpected, shocking blow. I've known the books since a long time and know the story very well and love it except some minor flaws. So I was allways very sceptic about this series. Yeah, the cast sounded great + I love many other HBO productions. But still, I feared the show could only destroy it all.

Then I watched the first episode and couldn't believe what I saw. I'm not saying all was like I imagined but it was all ... fitting. Especially the actors, every single one.

You laughed when you saw Jaime?  In my view he is perfect. At a first glance he must be this exaggerated, perfect, smug finest swordman and best knight of the realm. (btw since I'm no native english speaker - who would have guessed?- i'm fucking pissed off that the name is pronounced Jaimee rather than Jaim.)

Don't know about the swordfight, will watch again, but the acting of Sean Bean is very good.

However its clear that the first episode only could be so great for me because I knew every single character by sight, I knew the meaning of the exchanges of Catelyn and Jon, the message from the Eyrie, Neds hesitation. I've allways wondered how someone could understand only a fraction of it if your new to the show. The story is simply to wide scoaped to introduce it better. Watch the first episode again after season 3 or 4 - you will like it more than, I'd think.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 08, 2011, 12:09:51 pm
Too bad there are only two episodes left in this season. :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Wookimonsta on June 08, 2011, 02:26:47 pm
Idea:
Replace Strategus Calradia Map with Map of Westeros
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 08, 2011, 06:06:42 pm
two funny things:
reason why they couldn't find arya after beating the prince - they searched for her with visors - down

stark children... well... please, you who didn't read the books, guess their age

and in movie that stabbing of stable boy looked like an accident, but arya did it on purpouse and willingly
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 08, 2011, 06:14:52 pm
stark children... well... please, you who didn't read the books, guess their age
not much to guess, they are simply older in the series. I remember Sansa for example telling Cersei that she is 15 in one early episode. And the age of some others were mentioned as well.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AzureSkys on June 08, 2011, 08:11:59 pm
Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "cuss you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.

Have you seen Flesh and Blood (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089153/)?
It fits that mold quite well as far as medieval films go.
I'm pretty old fashioned and don't care for violence/sex/swearing so it gets tiresome for me since most the time it's put in for shock value rather than story. The imagination is way more powerful so stories that give you enough pieces to fill in the blanks are far more effective than those that shove it in your face.

I loved The Wire on HBO, but I'm enjoying The Shield which I've not seen a bit better since it didn't seem so blatantly wanton in what it portrayed (though it pushed boundaries for cable TV).

There's rough balance for moral respect and liberal freedom to portray reality and personal expression. I know I'm in a growing minority for those who don't care for controversial content.

/my feelings

Anyways, I'm really enjoying this series, especially the past few episodes and Khal Droggo/Daenerys. They're really ramping up the intensity that his character was mentioned to have at the beginning as the last fight showed.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 08, 2011, 08:22:02 pm
lol chadz i'm surprised you didn't like first episode was pretty awesome imo. especially the over the wall stuff.

+1 for westeros map over caladria. was always disapointed there wasn't an awesome single player mod for westeros but now theres a TV show there will probably be alot more interest in one.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tzar on June 08, 2011, 08:38:17 pm
Just watched the first episode today too much nudity for my taste i cant concentrate on the freakin plot...... :!:

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 10, 2011, 04:42:13 am
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Post by: bosco on June 10, 2011, 02:41:44 pm
Very nice once again... next project, King's Guard armor  :mrgreen:

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Post by: FICO on June 10, 2011, 05:55:38 pm
Very nice once again... next project, King's Guard armor  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 10, 2011, 06:01:09 pm
That just might be a rumor!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 10, 2011, 06:55:03 pm
Very nice once again... next project, King's Guard armor  :mrgreen:

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It could be done, but with no cape since I don't know how to import models with this engine and I've just been doing retextures. Robb wears cool plate armor in the next episode so I might do that next.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tzar on June 12, 2011, 02:12:17 am
OMG lol i just watched the ending of episode 6 that was slry epic ok im hooked now this serie is awesome thank god for HBO!!!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 12, 2011, 05:59:39 pm
episode 9 tonight  :shock:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 12, 2011, 07:13:35 pm
will they show tits or cock or both?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 12, 2011, 08:27:45 pm
Fuck me, Hodor is hung like a mammoth.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 12, 2011, 10:39:28 pm
Maybe there will be some more buttplay. Though I am hoping for some cock personally
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 13, 2011, 07:47:32 pm
Episode 9

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Post by: Leesin on June 13, 2011, 09:21:14 pm
Episode 9

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Post by: bosco on June 13, 2011, 09:24:25 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ujin on June 13, 2011, 09:35:16 pm
Best fight of the show so far  , imo =).
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Post by: Chagan_Arslan on June 13, 2011, 10:47:35 pm
i say FUCK THIS GUY

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motherfucker i hope he dies in agony ;]
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Knute on June 13, 2011, 11:13:47 pm
Episode 9 - don't read if not caught up
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Post by: Immolarian on June 14, 2011, 12:06:16 am
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Spoilered by request. -okiN
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AlbaTiger on June 14, 2011, 01:04:16 am
Just watched Ep. 9...

Episode 9 - don't read if not caught up
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I couldn't agree more Knute.
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I haven't read the books ... so yeah ...
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That fight...and that whole scene is easily one of my favourites so far, the set up, the duel and the ending were all wonderfully done.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 14, 2011, 01:31:00 am
Episode 9
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tzar on June 14, 2011, 06:24:54 am
Is it just me or is the serie starting to look like a cliché  :?: its the same usual plot as we seen before n before how ever i haven't read the book so i wouldn't know how it ends but so far its the same baddies as we see in every other movie or serie like this1.  :?

Anyways i still like the storie taken place with the blond whore over in the east ten times more interrresting than that of the bunch of rich spoiled kids fighten for power and prestige back in the 7 kingdoms
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gafgarion on June 14, 2011, 07:40:53 am
Is it just me or is the serie starting to look like a cliché  :?: its the same usual plot as we seen before n before how ever i haven't read the book so i wouldn't know how it ends but so far its the same baddies as we see in every other movie or serie like this1.  :?

Anyways i still like the storie taken place with the blond whore over in the east ten times more interrresting than that of the bunch of rich spoiled kids fighten for power and prestige back in the 7 kingdoms

Eh is it weird that I actually enjoyed the bit with Tyrion and the "whore" who really isn't a whore but someone else? She seemed so damn cliche yet so mysterious. Ugh, why must we wait a week! Stop giving us blue balls HBO!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on June 14, 2011, 02:46:50 pm
Is it just me or is the serie starting to look like a cliché  :?: its the same usual plot as we seen before n before how ever i haven't read the book so i wouldn't know how it ends but so far its the same baddies as we see in every other movie or serie like this1.  :?

Anyways i still like the storie taken place with the blond whore over in the east ten times more interrresting than that of the bunch of rich spoiled kids fighten for power and prestige back in the 7 kingdoms

Same usual plot? you have to be joking, so what other novel/show have you read/watched with a plot so similiar? the characters are superb, there has not been a better light fantasy/medieval show on tv ever, the characters are awesome. What do you expect from a Medieval era setting? did you ever study that era and learn that the whole thing consisted of people fighting for power?. I'm quite confused to where you've seen a show anywhere near as good as this in the same genre.

Nevermind, you must be watching a different show to me.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Varric on June 14, 2011, 03:33:26 pm
Use the spoiler tag plox, some people haven't watched ep 9.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 14, 2011, 03:34:32 pm
Same usual plot? you have to be joking, so what other novel/show have you read/watched with a plot so similiar? the characters are superb, there has not been a better light fantasy/medieval show on tv ever, the characters are awesome. What do you expect from a Medieval era setting? did you ever study that era and learn that the whole thing consisted of people fighting for power?. I'm quite confused to where you've seen a show anywhere near as good as this in the same genre.

Nevermind, you must be watching a different show to me.
+1

thought about replying to his post, but it seemed so pointless since if I look at tzars posts in general he lives in a different world than me.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Astinus on June 14, 2011, 05:05:55 pm
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.

Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible   :?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 14, 2011, 06:14:33 pm


Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible   :?
it was hillarious :)
but i don't recall that from the book...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bulzur on June 14, 2011, 06:46:57 pm
Thanks for making me discover this pleasant piece of work.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on June 14, 2011, 06:58:52 pm
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.

Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible   :?
it was hillarious :)
yup :D
but i sure would have liked to see a little battle or the ambush of the pretty man  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 14, 2011, 07:22:16 pm
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.

Really?  I am not normally one to be affected by such things, but that girl caused an embarrassing bulge in my breeches.  She's actually 31, but I wouldn't have guessed that personally.  I reckon there will be a larger budget to season two, which suggests an ability to film battles, of which there will be many.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 14, 2011, 08:10:15 pm
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.

Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible   :?

wow  :shock:. I thought shae was the hottest girl in the show so far.

yeah I hope they do proper battle scenes in series 2. I am peaved with ep 9 tho because they didn't even explain AT ALL how they captured jaime lanister. I mean in the book I dont think that battle was well described... but you at least were told what happened and how it was planned/executed. in the show they didn't tell you a single thing about it. I think they also changed tyrions story as to avoid a proper battle scene.

well I guess you'll have to read the books ;)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tzar on June 14, 2011, 08:17:13 pm
wow  :shock:. I thought shae was the hottest girl in the show so far.

Who is counting  :lol:

I think i seen about 32 sets of boobs so far not counting ass ect ect..  :P

I wouldn't mind casting the tits for the show  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 14, 2011, 08:59:38 pm
For the Shae fans:

She's being played by a German-Turkish actress who used to do porn... Sibel Kekili is her name.  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 14, 2011, 09:29:34 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tzar on June 14, 2011, 11:10:09 pm
For the Shae fans:

She's being played by a German-Turkish actress who used to do porn... Sibel Kekili is her name.  :twisted:

+1  :lol:

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Nice work man thumbs up thats impressive   :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on June 15, 2011, 03:38:12 am
I just watched episode 9,  cant believe Ned Stark is dead, Joeffery is a goddamn pussy! i Hate that guy, also i hate his bitchy mom, and i hope they all are gonna die sooner or later...Damn im mad now!!!

Btw, im gonna buy the fucing book i havet got enough patience to watch all the episodes, i want them dead now!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 15, 2011, 04:48:42 am
wow that Sibel Kekili did some filthy porn and then became an award winning actress. Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Wildling on June 15, 2011, 05:14:17 am
wow that Sibel Kekili did some filthy porn and then became an award winning actress. Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.

Fuck man fuck.... brb checking out her videos,srs.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kenji on June 15, 2011, 06:30:25 am
When I saw the Game of Thrones on the title, I was all excited to join the discussion

And then the [No Book Spoilers] showed up, I'm all "aww... too bad"

I read the whole series of The Song of Ice and Fire, and I certainly hope to see all of the 4 books filmed.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 15, 2011, 07:36:18 am
When I saw the Game of Thrones on the title, I was all excited to join the discussion

And then the [No Book Spoilers] showed up, I'm all "aww... too bad"

I read the whole series of The Song of Ice and Fire, and I certainly hope to see all of the 4 books filmed.

Hold your tongue !

You know what happens to traitors ...  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 15, 2011, 07:56:15 am
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/celebritynews/8576467/Sean-Bean-attacked-with-a-broken-glass.html

he was out with a filthy British porno chick April Summers
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2011, 12:31:21 pm
I read the whole series of The Song of Ice and Fire, and I certainly hope to see all of the 4 books filmed.
If they drop the thing after 4 books/seasons I gonna drive myself up to NYC and chop the responsable persons into pieces with my 3x loomed cookies! Btw it would be cool if you could give heirloomed Items personal names.

Kenji, there is no harm done in discussing book related things in
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 15, 2011, 01:31:41 pm
I am peaved with ep 9 tho because they didn't even explain AT ALL how they captured jaime lanister
that's because it doesn't matter. what matters is that they captured him


even in school, if you learned about roman war against carthage, you were told that romans won the battle against hannibal's brother. that's all what matters for that history lesson. at university you will learn that they won by applying his brother's tactics. only then if you want to learn more you'll get to know about how they used cavalry blah blah blah. but even than you're not going to be learned how severus madidus lost three toes of his left leg or that romans brought chairs for veterans (so they don't get tired) if they anticipated a longer battle
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 15, 2011, 03:45:28 pm
When I said no book spoilers I quite literally meant no book spoilers, not even in spoiler tags.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gorath on June 15, 2011, 04:02:44 pm
Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.

That's fairly tame.  If a woman doesn't do anal (porn or next door) then something is wrong and she must be broken in immediately.  Still, checked out the collection of porn.  It's ok for being oldies.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2011, 05:06:44 pm
wow that Sibel Kekili did some filthy porn and then became an award winning actress. Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.

I wikipediaed her... to my not so giant suprise, in the nationality section it said German.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2011, 07:16:35 pm
When I said no book spoilers I quite literally meant no book spoilers, not even in spoiler tags.
ah, Ok.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 15, 2011, 08:35:14 pm
Game of Thrones Episode 10 Preview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FpMUdteYBM)
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Post by: Osiem on June 15, 2011, 09:27:41 pm
I can't wait to see
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 15, 2011, 09:46:18 pm
I repeat my request for people not to post spoilers, even in spoiler tags.  People are curious beings and revelations are but a casual click away.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2011, 10:41:58 pm
I repeat my request for people not to post spoilers, even in spoiler tags.  People are curious beings and revelations are but a casual click away.
how about we make a seperate thread with spoilers allowed? Or do you think this would be too tempting as well to casual click it? (No irony here, absolute serious.)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kenji on June 15, 2011, 10:53:05 pm
Hold your tongue !

You know what happens to traitors ...  :twisted:
Decapitation!

We can post something that's already aired on TV, though, right? Lol.

Though in the books...


I'll respect the OP's requests :wink:.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Immolarian on June 16, 2011, 01:07:03 pm
I just watched episode 9,  cant believe Ned Stark is dead, Joeffery is a goddamn pussy! i Hate that guy, also i hate his bitchy mom, and i hope they all are gonna die sooner or later...Damn im mad now!!!

Btw, im gonna buy the fucing book i havet got enough patience to watch all the episodes, i want them dead now!

Dude, Geoffrey is the coolest guy in the whole series. How can you hate him?  :|
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on June 16, 2011, 01:18:36 pm
Dude, Geoffrey is the coolest guy in the whole series. How can you hate him?  :|

He has one of them faces that deserve to be punched.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 16, 2011, 01:23:03 pm
Dude, Geoffrey is the coolest guy in the whole series. How can you hate him?  :|

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Also this: more ep9 spoilers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owf6D2vfZqM).

Joffrey -- more of a dick than even his own mother could ever have imagined.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 16, 2011, 02:36:47 pm
little link for those who didn't read the book:
http://youtu.be/EKzkmAykyOo
it offers some explanations and things you can't know by watching the show. however, you could be distracted (as i was too) by breathing in of narrator.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 16, 2011, 09:52:25 pm
He has one of them faces that deserve to be punched.

Like this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxLOXUGmRKI)

http://youtu.be/EKzkmAykyOo

I had issues paying attention to her narration, I believe it had something to do with her gracefully heaving bosoms. 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 17, 2011, 07:46:40 am
dude she is just a paid actress, she isn't a nerd. Probably not into it at all.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 17, 2011, 08:13:53 am
little link for those who didn't read the book:
http://youtu.be/EKzkmAykyOo
it offers some explanations and things you can't know by watching the show. however, you could be distracted (as i was too) by breathing in of narrator.

I'm pretty sure virtually everything said there you would already know by watching the show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 17, 2011, 12:42:32 pm
I'm pretty sure virtually everything said there you would already know by watching the show.
i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Peasant_Woman on June 17, 2011, 01:28:20 pm
i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together

I never read the books but watching the show I did kind of get the impression that they grew up together, mainly from how much they seem to trust one another and the few times they talk about being in the wars.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ming on June 17, 2011, 01:54:05 pm
I strongly recommend this series! Very well acted and great story line:)

We also got this  :D

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Post by: bilwit on June 17, 2011, 09:56:49 pm
i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together

They did in like the first episode in the Stark family crypt.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Lord_Riotcontrol on June 18, 2011, 06:45:46 am
I have read all of the books and look forward to the new book, A Dance with dragons (July 12, 2011).

I enjoy the show and watch every week.  I am going to be hypercritical and post a few problems I have with the HBO adaption: 

1)  The Dire-Wolves needed to be CGIed.  There were far to many important scenes with the dire-wolves and their companions in book 1.  Script rewrites to accommodate the wolves not being there hurt the show.

2)  Jon Snow/Syrio/Lord Renly were miscast.  Serio, not that big of a deal.  Jon Snow isn't dynamic enough and looks like a peasant.  His acting abilities seem to pretty limited.  Renly seems far to meek and childish.

3)  Kings landing looks awwwfulllll.  The city resembles some remote-outpost in the middle-east, not the capital of westeros.

4)  Tyrion isn't ugly enough (ok, minor gripe).

5)  The wight scene at "The Wall" was so poorly done.  Tywin isnt bald.

End of list :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Osiem on June 18, 2011, 11:57:29 am
Renly and Syrio are good. Renly is supposed to be childish (like "peach" scene in aCoK). But Jon Snow is weak, that's true. He has ALWAYS this same face.

Oh, and Ghost should be mute. In HBO's GoT he's... barking.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 18, 2011, 12:03:31 pm
Renly and Syrio are good. Renly is supposed to be childish (like "peach" scene in aCoK). But Jon Snow is weak, that's true. He has ALWAYS this same face.

Oh, and Ghost should be mute. In HBO's GoT he's... barking.

To be fair, Sean Bean ALWAYS seems like he defaults to the SAME exact facial expression too: ": o"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AlbaTiger on June 18, 2011, 01:45:52 pm
Sean Bean has a lot more screen presence than the guy playing Snow though, and his lines and scenes seem better suited to him.

As it is I'm not sure if it is a lack of skill or motivation on the guys part, or simply a case that the lines and scenes he has have, for the most part, not been that energetic. Most of his scenes are the same "be down trodden but get put in your place because others have it worse" thing.

I totally disagree with the idea of CGI for the Dire Wolves though. I'm happy with them trying to make them seem impressive and powerful through the use of camera angles rather than the often jarring effect of CGI which tends to stick out like a sore thumb.

Yes okay Dire Wolves are supposed to be exceptionally large wolves, but it isn't too much of an edit to have them just as a breed of wolf who have evolved denser muscles or something. So while they are closer to "normal" sized they are far stronger, add some above average intelligence to that and you have a creature which would be pretty terrifying and no doubt would lead to people who encounter them exaggerating the size to match the power shown.

Of course I've not read the books, so if that would still be too different to make them hold their strong meaning to the story then I dunno.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 18, 2011, 09:31:06 pm
I found that the books started strong, but increasingly got too far-fetched, so that by the fourth book there is too much going on. No wonder there has been a 6 year gap until the next book. There are too many loose ends, and bs things happening.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 18, 2011, 10:43:50 pm
I found that the books started strong, but increasingly got too far-fetched, so that by the fourth book there is too much going on. No wonder there has been a 6 year gap until the next book. There are too many loose ends, and bs things happening.
http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html

perhaps this will give you some understanding of why the fourth book is what it is. Personally I enjoyed it very much and understood why he had to put this characters and places in the series. But I also can understand the dissapointment of many, but I hope the next book will make good for it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on June 19, 2011, 02:03:02 am
My favorite quote of episode 09.

"Your mother would still be a milkmaid if I hadn't squirted you into her belly"

Lord Walder Frey looks like a RL Gnjus.
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 20, 2011, 08:49:15 am
whos seen episode 10?

AW YEAH

sad its over. well was 10 hours well spent.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on June 20, 2011, 10:59:09 am
Disappointed with the lack of decent action in ep10 and the episode in general.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ming on June 20, 2011, 01:54:20 pm
is ep 10 the last1?
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Post by: Bjarky on June 20, 2011, 02:00:53 pm
is ep 10 the last1?
yes, its the last of season 1.
i liked the ending of ep10, i don't know the books, but i had a feeling this should happen at some point already, definitely makes it more exiting and sexy for me  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2011, 02:03:11 pm
Aw man I liked...o wait
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I liked the exchange between Baelish and Varys as well. Probably the best bit of the epidode tbh. Not much else happened but ah well it's still good!

O the other lol...CHRIS from Skins :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on June 20, 2011, 02:06:21 pm
yeah, but something else is much "cooler"  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2011, 02:19:14 pm
yeah, but something else is much "cooler"  :twisted:

Ha o wait I wote that before getting to the end of the episode...that was cool :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Wildling on June 20, 2011, 02:20:21 pm
The ending was sick.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ujin on June 20, 2011, 02:38:06 pm
ROARRRRR (well, more like "weeee" for now)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2011, 02:46:09 pm
 
ROARRRRR (well, more like "weeee" for now)

 :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 20, 2011, 07:22:37 pm
*Tears of fanboy joy*
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on June 20, 2011, 07:43:29 pm
the last episode was really awesome, cant wait for season 2! Also we got to see khaleesi naked, AWESOME!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: chadz on June 20, 2011, 07:47:43 pm
Also we got to see khaleesi naked, AWESOME!

Like, a dozen times before
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Wildling on June 20, 2011, 07:53:50 pm
Like, a dozen times before

Don't tell me you didn't flop your donkey dick out, and started jerk off with your tounge out :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 20, 2011, 07:56:27 pm
Don't tell me you didn't flop your donkey dick out, and started jerk off with your tounge out :)

No, because let's face it. It's not Xant that plays Khaleesi.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 20, 2011, 08:12:31 pm
No, because let's face it. It's not Xant that plays Khaleesi.

As in, the bad guy from Zelda?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AlbaTiger on June 20, 2011, 08:16:48 pm
The Khaleesi has only been naked once or twice before ... but never looking so alive and powerful, to me that is far more attractive, even if she had still had clothes it would have been more attractive.

That finale, was simply awesome.
Even Sansa who I have pretty much hated for the whole show finally showed some real strength.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Murmillus_Prime on June 20, 2011, 08:22:45 pm
The Khaleesi has only been naked once or twice before ... but never looking so alive and powerful, to me that is far more attractive, even if she had still had clothes it would have been more attractive.

That finale, was simply awesome.
Even Sansa who I have pretty much hated for the whole show finally showed some real strength.

Ah yes, that was one of the good parts of the episode.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2011, 08:26:16 pm
Even Sansa who I have pretty much hated for the whole show finally showed some real strength.

Yeah gotta agree there. I've hated her the entire series, but began to like her a bit more now.

Chris from Skins (the blacksmiths apprentice that helps arya) still cracks me up.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 20, 2011, 08:35:14 pm
Yeah gotta agree there. I've hated her the entire series, but began to like her a bit more now.
thats exactly as it is when you read the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 20, 2011, 08:39:58 pm
shame you, guys! martin says that she's only 14
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MadJackMcMad on June 20, 2011, 08:48:08 pm
Do the forum guidelines say anything regarding perversion?

(The actress is about 23 or something)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 20, 2011, 09:01:54 pm
Well, as you say, the actress is an adult. As I understand it, a lot of the characters' ages got changed for the show for that reason.

I think my favourite part of the episode was the Lord Commander's moment of badassitude. The Grand Maester being revealed as a sly old coot was also funny. :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on June 20, 2011, 09:18:37 pm
Well, as you say, the actress is an adult. As I understand it, a lot of the characters' ages got changed for the show for that reason.

I think my favourite part of the episode was the Lord Commander's moment of badassitude. The Grand Maester being revealed as a sly old coot was also funny. :)
haha yeah, that is some old healthy sneaky perv  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: AlbaTiger on June 20, 2011, 09:33:53 pm
Yeah that was the other great thing about the episode, it wasn't just main characters who had important scenes, there were some really great bits for the lesser seen characters like the Lord Commander, Grand Maester, Tywin Lannister, The Hound...etc...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 20, 2011, 09:42:46 pm
Yeah that was the other great thing about the episode, it wasn't just main characters who had important scenes, there were some really great bits for the lesser seen characters like the Lord Commander, Grand Maester, Tywin Lannister, The Hound...etc...

I thought Theon had the best little insight bit and in the best part of the episode: "Am I your brother? Now and always?"

awwww  :oops:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 20, 2011, 09:43:06 pm
We even got to see that mute assassin fella again, poor guy gets less air time than Rickon.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 20, 2011, 10:51:00 pm
We even got to see that mute assassin fella again, poor guy gets less air time than Rickon.
but he will get more seasons than ned bean, thats plain.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 20, 2011, 11:07:25 pm
I thought Theon had the best little insight bit and in the best part of the episode: "Am I your brother? Now and always?"

awwww  :oops:
i read books too i read books too la la la la la
and i know something other don't :)

the story is awesome and i enjoy reactions from people watching the show (books aren't so popular) and all reactions happen in the same time.

if you are into theory and literature theory - you know that characters are less important than story, and story is less important than that what writer does to you and your emotions or beliefs. and THAT is what martin does best sick bastard
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on June 20, 2011, 11:09:39 pm
http://www.tv.com/game-of-thrones-renewed-for-season-two/story/25652.html (look under [update])
hopefully they finish up quicker   :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on June 20, 2011, 11:40:12 pm
Now we need season 2 of The Walking Dead to fill the gap.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on June 21, 2011, 01:00:50 am
well i started on Falling Skies, just started with first ep, is sci-fi, but not to bad  :D
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462059/
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 21, 2011, 01:18:45 am
One thing that always strikes me as a bit ridiculous about the Wall scenes is how for all their carrying on about how incredibly cold it is up there, hardly any of them ever seem to wear anything on their heads. Anyone who's ever lived in a colder climate will know that shit's just not gonna fly. :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 21, 2011, 01:27:02 am
One thing that always strikes me as a bit ridiculous about the Wall scenes is how for all their carrying on about how incredibly cold it is up there, hardly any of them ever seem to wear anything on their heads. Anyone who's ever lived in a colder climate will know that shit's just not gonna fly. :P

Speak for yourself, at -10 real men can go shirtless... at around 2 per mil
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 21, 2011, 01:30:44 am
Anyone out in -20 without a hat is in for some discomfort. -30? Enjoy not feeling your nose or ears. -40? Enjoy losing your nose and ears.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 21, 2011, 01:33:42 am
You can manage confusingly high - degrees naked as long as there is no wind.

But that goes both ways, if there is really high velocity wind a degree of -18 can have a effective temperature of -50 ish.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 21, 2011, 01:35:36 am
Yeh, of course there are lots of other factors, but bottom line is it looked pretty damn windy up on that wall. :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RagnarLodbroke on June 21, 2011, 01:38:06 am
Now we need season 2 of The Walking Dead to fill the gap.

The walking dead looks like a mean serie :( I dont like zombies they are cannibals!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 21, 2011, 01:38:22 am
Yeh, of course there are lots of other factors, but bottom line is it looked pretty damn windy up on that wall. :lol:

Maybe they were drinking heavily! :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 21, 2011, 01:40:17 am
Somehow I don't think they're allowed to do that on watch duty. :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 21, 2011, 01:40:59 am
Semantics!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 21, 2011, 01:44:14 am
Anyone out in -20 without a hat is in for some discomfort. -30? Enjoy not feeling your nose or ears. -40? Enjoy losing your nose and ears.

It's summer. Even on the wall. It's not that cold during summer. I imagine it being from 0 to -20

But winter is coming :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on June 21, 2011, 04:39:23 am
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Post by: RagnarLodbroke on June 21, 2011, 06:59:23 am
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Believe u should get rid of the beard and get longer hair :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 21, 2011, 09:16:02 am
It's summer. Even on the wall. It's not that cold during summer. I imagine it being from 0 to -20

But winter is coming :)
exactly. Of course you could then ask why the wall is only "weeping" and not melting, but i think at this point you can use the this is fantasy-argument.

btw good summary about history of westeros by HBO: http://viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/#!/guide/appendix/westeros-through-the-ages/
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 21, 2011, 10:12:44 am
Because the wall is magic. It's pointed out a few times in the books  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Elmetiacos on June 21, 2011, 05:03:24 pm
A friend told me this series would be really good and that I should watch it and indeed he was right, although some of the plot "twists" I saw coming a mile off. The one thing that struck me as really silly though was
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 21, 2011, 05:39:52 pm
A friend told me this series would be really good and that I should watch it and indeed he was right, although some of the plot "twists" I saw coming a mile off. The one thing that struck me as really silly though was
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You see in the show that the dothraki are a nomadic "nation" with a functional hirarchie and that they are humans. For the council (medevial orientated) they are just a vague imagined bunch of barbaric animals. Like Viserys they think only with a proper Lord telling them what to do they could ever harm them. Very similar to the images the roman senat had from phoenician or later gothic "barbarians", ah there are dozens more similiar examples in human history.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 23, 2011, 03:19:19 am
One thing that always strikes me as a bit ridiculous about the Wall scenes is how for all their carrying on about how incredibly cold it is up there, hardly any of them ever seem to wear anything on their heads. Anyone who's ever lived in a colder climate will know that shit's just not gonna fly. :P

Have you ever watch Man vs Wild ?
I've never seen Bear Grylls having something on his head.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kenji on June 23, 2011, 03:26:24 am
Have you ever watch Man vs Wild ?
I've never seen Bear Grylls having something on his head.
Yet we've seen a huge maggot in his mouth...

That image never gets off.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 23, 2011, 10:12:21 am
Have you ever watch Man vs Wild ?
I've never seen Bear Grylls having something on his head.
2 things
1. i like him his show and all that, but - he's faker (if you want). he has a big crew, sleeps in local hotel, travels to location and shoots the show. when he gets cut or bruises, he whines alot when cameras are off. yes, he's ex badassmotherfuckingeliteforcesoldier, but now he is not and can whine and be pussy as any other man. he is a regular man who likes nature and regular camping. he knows what to do in extreme situations, but he doesn't need to live that way. it's just show

2. watch better ;)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on June 23, 2011, 10:20:27 am
Yet we've seen a huge maggot in his mouth...

That image never gets off.

I can confirm that :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Apostata on June 23, 2011, 03:14:35 pm
Ive seen worse things in Fear factor.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BranStark on June 24, 2011, 05:39:21 am
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph on June 24, 2011, 06:00:34 am
2 things
1. i like him his show and all that, but - he's faker (if you want). he has a big crew, sleeps in local hotel, travels to location and shoots the show. when he gets cut or bruises, he whines alot when cameras are off. yes, he's ex badassmotherfuckingeliteforcesoldier, but now he is not and can whine and be pussy as any other man. he is a regular man who likes nature and regular camping. he knows what to do in extreme situations, but he doesn't need to live that way. it's just show

2. watch better ;)

You went out of bound my friend.
The question was if he had a cap or not.  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on June 24, 2011, 12:02:22 pm
 :oops: oops  :shock:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 29, 2011, 10:09:18 pm
amazon.de screwed up and shipped 180 copies of the new Book two weeks before release date!  :lol: some heads gonna roll at german amazon...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on July 06, 2011, 12:54:25 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Astinus on July 06, 2011, 02:13:15 pm
nice armors, first one is kingsguard or jaime, third is lannister's men at arms, but the second? It seems Ned's outfit but it wasn't an armor if I remember it right
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on July 06, 2011, 04:21:25 pm
nice armors, first one is kingsguard or jaime, third is lannister's men at arms, but the second? It seems Ned's outfit but it wasn't an armor if I remember it right

Just standard Winterfell armor worn throughout the series:

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Eddard wears the leather padding thing throughout his stay at King's Landing but with a couple inside-shirt variations.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Astinus on July 06, 2011, 05:47:03 pm
I see, my point was that norhtern armor seems to be mail with padded leather and not studded
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Sagar on July 06, 2011, 09:30:33 pm
Is there a some link to this mod?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on July 06, 2011, 10:27:49 pm
Is there a some link to this mod?

It's on the Talesworld forums but it's in Turkish.. they're (we're?) going to make an English thread when there's more to show. But then again who knows, they don't tell me anything and I seem like the only person who has actually done anything :?

I see, my point was that norhtern armor seems to be mail with padded leather and not studded

They're more like bolts that hold the pads together. All of them have it but I guess mine is more noticeable due to the stylized shininess. Also the stuff they wear underneath varies a lot. Some wear padded blue longsleeves, some wear white shirts with long mail underneath, etc.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on July 06, 2011, 11:22:56 pm
When you guys want to connect the sea's on the westeros map, you could have a talk with the guys from the Brytenwalda SP Mod (http://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php/board,189.0.html), they have a nice system with ships and pirates  :wink:
Try it out.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Slayaz on July 07, 2011, 07:10:48 am
Can you do this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FICO on July 07, 2011, 08:32:13 am
i'm organ player. two hands and two legs - i can do anything  8-) poor violinist...


edit:
on serious note - he did a good job
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ming on July 10, 2011, 10:51:19 pm
Can you do this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA)

amazing!!!!!!!Asians can do anything!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on January 30, 2012, 11:02:57 am
Trailers and smallish spoilers for the new season and a release date. April 1st.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3--MIgihGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_AW6Bqnvqo&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rOzXsqoJhtE
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on January 30, 2012, 11:07:21 am
Trailers and smallish spoilers for the new season and a release date. April 1st.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3--MIgihGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_AW6Bqnvqo&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rOzXsqoJhtE

I want it now
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on January 30, 2012, 11:43:05 am
only a little over 2 months to go  :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on January 31, 2012, 08:28:04 am
only a little over 2 months to go  :D

Too long I want it now >:(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 31, 2012, 11:58:01 am
I hope viewer numbers in USA will be massive and the dvd sells worldwide as well so this will be continued and they have a big budget. It looks promising:

first season dvd which will be released in march on amazon.uk:

Amazon Bestsellers Rank: 95 in Film & TV (See Top 100 in Film & TV)

    #1 in Film & TV > Television > Action
    #4 in Film & TV > Television > Science Fiction & Fantasy
    #19 in Film & TV > Television > Drama

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on February 27, 2012, 09:44:57 am
can't wait.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X66PDW1Mjf8&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 04, 2012, 10:09:07 pm
for those interested, another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JbqzI2Dl7Y&hd=1
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: RibaldRon on March 05, 2012, 12:41:37 am
S1E5 scene meets M&B
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 :lol:

I honestly went into it not expecting much (I had read the books, they're pretty good for what they're worth, if you're a book person and enjoy the show, you should read them!) and was pleasantly surprised as is the case with most TV shows.   Really looking forward to the second
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season
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.

TY for posting all the trailers as I'd only seen one.
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Post by: Bjarky on March 06, 2012, 08:01:32 pm
http://vimeo.com/37958686   :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 06, 2012, 08:31:28 pm
http://vimeo.com/37958686   :mrgreen:
love the three-eyed crows.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on March 27, 2012, 08:54:10 pm
only a few days left  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on March 27, 2012, 10:33:53 pm
Can't wait  :D

The annoying thing is I'm trying to read the books and finding it hard to read the first one simply because it is so similar, even down to the dialogue. Not going to get to the second book in time for the next series!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on March 28, 2012, 06:12:41 am
Can't wait  :D

The annoying thing is I'm trying to read the books and finding it hard to read the first one simply because it is so similar, even down to the dialogue. Not going to get to the second book in time for the next series!

I actually found it more meaningful when I read it after I watched the entire series. It's like watching a movie a second time -- you don't get the same emotional impact as you do the first time around but you see things more analytically and clear. It was also cool to fill in all the gaps between scenes and how more apparent magic in the story is in the book than in the series (in which it's more implied).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 28, 2012, 09:16:34 am
I'm curious about the ratings. So far it looks very good, dvd (or rather Bluray) sells were very good, best first-week sells for any HBO series ever. So you can really hope they will finish this and even have some money to spend on the more extensive CGI scenes to come in future seasons.

Well, all dependent on the further progress of some fat lazy american author of course. :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: ManOfWar on March 29, 2012, 03:30:38 pm
Hey guys, I just watched the first episode,


How good exactly does it get?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 29, 2012, 03:54:10 pm
first episode of season one?

mh, I'm probably not the right guy to ask how good it gets because I am totally biased and a fan of the books since about 6 years.

However in my opinion/hope this is by far the best fantasy-thing you can watch, and even compared to other good HBO shows (Sopranos, The Wire, etc.) it is of equal quality in therms of acting, characters, story-line and many other thing. And when/if the whole series will be finished it will be one gigantic coherent 70 hours film with the best elements froom good drama, historical fiction and LOTR-like fantasy (I hope, but it looks good).

Of course when you just watched the first episode you will see nothing of this. There are lots of characters, names, locations and other things to get used to. In fact, the whole first season can be seen as the first introduction of the story to come. But if you like a good story with lots of intrigues, violence and sex (and all of this very authentic, IMO) you have to stick with it. And be prepared for surprises, this is not good vs. evil and no one is safe.

So in short: it gets really really good and not just for fantasy geeks. But probably better ask someone who's not fan of the books if you hadn't read them yourself.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on March 29, 2012, 04:37:47 pm
How good exactly does it get?
Very.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on March 29, 2012, 05:37:54 pm
Hey guys, I just watched the first episode,


How good exactly does it get?

The first 5 episodes are largely character building and back story. But once you hit episode 6-7 it really kicks off and you'll be hooked after that  :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 29, 2012, 07:33:07 pm
The first 5 episodes are largely character building and back story. But once you hit episode 6-7 it really kicks off and you'll be hooked after that  :)
true, but on the other hand if you already know the story the first episodes are full of hints and anticipation of the story, which is awesome to (re)watch.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Chasey on March 29, 2012, 07:38:38 pm
when does season 2 start exactly?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on March 29, 2012, 07:40:35 pm
when does season 2 start exactly?

Sunday, April first.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on March 29, 2012, 08:24:24 pm
i hate that sunday is the 1st april though, really makes me prank paranoid  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: rebbrown on March 29, 2012, 09:55:05 pm
OURS IS THE FURY! Can't wait for Stannis to kick some ass and take names.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Earthdforce on March 29, 2012, 10:12:24 pm
Wait, are those sex scenes legit? They seemed like it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Mike_of_Kingswell on March 30, 2012, 01:02:06 am
Hey guys, I just watched the first episode,


How good exactly does it get?

scale of 1 to 10 with 10 as best: 15!!!!

winters comming :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: ManOfWar on March 31, 2012, 05:11:16 pm
Hey guys just finished and all I have to say is

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Post by: Overdriven on March 31, 2012, 05:13:34 pm
Hey guys just finished and all I have to say is

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Speedy :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bosco on March 31, 2012, 05:39:39 pm
Game Of Thrones: New Characters of Season 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWF929rlw10
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on March 31, 2012, 06:08:58 pm
I'm continuesly amazed how well-casted this series is.

Natalie Dormer as Margery  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: ManOfWar on April 02, 2012, 03:58:23 am
Looks like the bastards got owned in this episode
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on April 02, 2012, 09:17:20 am
The guy who plays Stannis is horribly, horribly miscast.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 02, 2012, 10:44:52 am
The guy who plays Stannis is horribly, horribly miscast.
mh, I'd tend to wait a little for a final judgement. But for now I have to agree that he appeared far too relaxed.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on April 02, 2012, 03:04:21 pm
mh, I'd tend to wait a little for a final judgement. But for now I have to agree that he appeared far too relaxed.

That was the least of my critique. Stannis is supposed to be an imposing figure with a deep and chilling voice. The actor is weasely and comes off as pompous when he's supposed to be serious.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 02, 2012, 03:50:47 pm
That was the least of my critique. Stannis is supposed to be an imposing figure with a deep and chilling voice. The actor is weasely and comes off as pompous when he's supposed to be serious.
I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.


Wait a bit and we'll see.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on April 02, 2012, 03:58:20 pm
I think the next ep will be better, now that we're got the intro's done  :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: rebbrown on April 02, 2012, 05:51:43 pm
I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.


Wait a bit and we'll see.

If you read the chapters (like the burning of the idols) again, you'll see that Stannis often has a 'get this over with' attitude towards things he doesn't like / isn't comfortable with. He has a love/hate relationship with R'hhlor and simply isn't too happy with the burning of the idols. Hence his 'okay, this is done, get the fuck out'. The way he handled the writing of the letter was perfect Stannis, now to see how he deals with Renly :)

And I absolutely love Davos. Couldbn't have casted him better.
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Post by: Leesin on April 02, 2012, 09:33:50 pm
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Really enjoyed the first episode, been waiting so long, really glad season 2 is here.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 03, 2012, 03:15:02 am
is that guy playing Davos the actor from The Wire who played the asshole captain of the homicide unit?
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Post by: bilwit on April 03, 2012, 03:34:42 am
I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.


Wait a bit and we'll see.

Might not be what you were referring to but I noticed a little change in overall demeanor as well, it seems like they really let loose and had a little fun with the dialogue -- particularly a couple lines Tyrion says and other instances with other characters as well (Maester Luwin had a little moment and there was another one that I forgot). I think it's kind of cool and shows writing maturity.

The biggest scene that erked me the most was Rob's scene with Jaime. They both did a good job for the most part but the last bit with the digital wolf felt incredibly contrived. It was like, yeah.. okay.. we get the point: Rob is a badass but the wolf scaring Jaime was a dumb and unnecessary exercise of their apparently new CGI budget.

Also, for as good and award-winning of a job that the actor who plays Tyrion does, his glaringly fake accent bothers me a lot :lol:
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Post by: Overdriven on April 03, 2012, 11:55:34 am
The biggest scene that erked me the most was Rob's scene with Jaime. They both did a good job for the most part but the last bit with the digital wolf felt incredibly contrived. It was like, yeah.. okay.. we get the point: Rob is a badass but the wolf scaring Jaime was a dumb and unnecessary exercise of their apparently new CGI budget.

I think it was just their way of properly reintroducing us to the 'new' older Direwolves. I actually really liked that scene because they did it that way.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on April 03, 2012, 12:01:34 pm
The point of the scene is to remind the audience that the wolves are direwolves, not normal wolves.
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Post by: bosco on April 03, 2012, 12:09:50 pm
Episode 02 is already available on the interbutts, in case you don't want to wait until next week.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 03, 2012, 12:11:55 pm
Peter Dinklage's fake accent, what are you talking about? What accent does he fake?

And as far as I remember him from interviews or other movies he allways talks like this. I could be wrong, especially as I'm no native english speaker.
Episode 02 is already available on the interbutts, in case you don't want to wait until next week.
damn you, it's true. Now I won't resist to watch/d-load this night and then I'll have to wait two weeks for the next episode.  :|  :D
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Post by: bilwit on April 03, 2012, 01:16:39 pm
Peter Dinklage's fake accent, what are you talking about? What accent does he fake?

And as far as I remember him from interviews or other movies he allways talks like this. I could be wrong, especially as I'm no native english speaker.damn you, it's true. Now I won't resist to watch/d-load this night and then I'll have to wait two weeks for the next episode.  :|  :D

He's an American. I applaud him for sounding naturally posh sometimes but I find my self cringing like nails-on-a-chalkboard every other sentence  he speaks :lol:

Episode 02 is already available on the interbutts, in case you don't want to wait until next week.

Thanks for the tip!
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Post by: Banok on April 03, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
the guy playing davos is a bad guy in the irish film: the guard. if you haven't seen it go watch it now, scum! watched it recently though it was amazingly funny/original.

on series 2:
I liked that the wolves finally look like dire wolves and not just ordinary dogs, I look forward to hopefully some battle scenes. my only major gripe with season 1 was the completely cut battle scenes. I kind of have low-ish expectations tho because I mean the battle of blackwater... surely must be cut down.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 03, 2012, 05:50:44 pm
Renly was really the worst cast so far imo. Given the way they've painted him as a whiny bitch in the first season (nothing to do with his homosexuality, the way the whole homo thing was approached in the books I got more of a ancient Greek feel to it, i.e warrior like and not effiminate, as opposed to modern perceptions), I'm looking forward to how it plays out with Stannis. 

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Stannis didn't seem miscast as far as looks, not a fan of his voice though.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 03, 2012, 06:04:09 pm
Agreed Oberyn, that is how I see these characters too.

Concerning strictly sticking to the books then it seems palpable that Clash of Kings will see the results of a lot more hard editing than Game of Thrones did.
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Post by: Teeth on April 03, 2012, 07:38:26 pm
Ahahaha, those foldable noseguards on the Lannister helmets, that makes too much sense!
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Post by: Angantyr on April 03, 2012, 07:51:48 pm
Armaments of the City Guard and the Lannisters are really, really crappy, though wolves, crows and Kingsguard (minus the helmets, wtf are up with those) are pretty accurate, as is the armors of Loras Tyrell and the Mountain that Rides (and iconic items like Sandor Clegane's great helmet). But the occasional LoTR movie trilogy item has still sneaked in here and there.
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Post by: bosco on April 03, 2012, 08:36:17 pm
Watched E02... damn cliffhangers  :lol:
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Post by: Bjarky on April 03, 2012, 09:58:03 pm
yeah that was hilarious  :lol:
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Post by: Razzer on April 03, 2012, 11:01:32 pm
Anyone got a link to a stream?
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Post by: Malaclypse on April 04, 2012, 01:26:28 am
Favorite part of the show is anytime a bunch of bearded men in puffy coats get together and yell, "THE KING IN THE NORTH" a couple of dozen times.
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Post by: bilwit on April 04, 2012, 05:27:51 am
Renly was really the worst cast so far imo. Given the way they've painted him as a whiny bitch in the first season (nothing to do with his homosexuality, the way the whole homo thing was approached in the books I got more of a ancient Greek feel to it, i.e warrior like and not effiminate, as opposed to modern perceptions), I'm looking forward to how it plays out with Stannis. 

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Stannis didn't seem miscast as far as looks, not a fan of his voice though.

To be fair Renly didn't get enough screentime for me to reach the same conclusion about him in the show as you did. He's only whiny during the Loras scene; he shows complete confidence when he tries to convince Ned to help him get the throne.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 04, 2012, 05:39:13 am
any successful HBO drama has a little homosex. The Wire and Spartacus for example.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 04, 2012, 11:28:43 am
WTF...

First Chris and Now Cassie...what is the cast of Skins doing in Game of Thrones:

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And yes I'm watching the second episode  :P Is HBOGO premium and they get it a week early or something?

Sounds weird to have Hannah Murries as Gilly...more used to her in this roll: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HopCCzJO8NU
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Post by: Banok on April 04, 2012, 12:15:27 pm
Renly was really the worst cast so far imo.
agreed. hes supposed to look like king robert before he got fat. hes supposed to be very tall, strong and handsome and a warrior. instead we got this wimpy, ordinary looking guy. I also seem to remember him having long dark hair, they coudln't even get that right.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 04, 2012, 03:31:22 pm
agreed. hes supposed to look like king robert before he got fat. hes supposed to be very tall, strong and handsome and a warrior. instead we got this wimpy, ordinary looking guy. I also seem to remember him having long dark hair, they coudln't even get that right.
All in all I couldn't care less about all these comparisons between how they did it wrong compared to the books. The only important thing is that they the get the story done as a TV adaption which is working/coherent in itself. Of course they shouldn't make a new story out of it, but so long as it stays a very good story and very good tv show (which it seems to be) they are free to do some changes to characters or leave some story-arcs out and invent others, imo.
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Post by: rebbrown on April 04, 2012, 07:11:47 pm
Robb's wolf isn't cgi btw - they filmed a real wolf and digitally 'enhanced' him -> they made the wolf a bit bigger.
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Post by: Leesin on April 05, 2012, 05:17:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25KABvPbq-U
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Post by: Apostata on April 05, 2012, 11:03:44 am
What the heck did they done to Stannis in ep2!?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 05, 2012, 01:36:05 pm
What the heck did they done to Stannis in ep2!?
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Post by: Apostata on April 05, 2012, 02:26:12 pm
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Post by: Banok on April 05, 2012, 04:55:34 pm
calling her mel sounds so wrong.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 05, 2012, 06:02:28 pm
calling her mel sounds so wrong.

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Post by: Banok on April 06, 2012, 05:00:28 pm
I don't know who that is :S
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Post by: Logen on April 06, 2012, 05:03:17 pm
Mel Brooks?
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Post by: Overdriven on April 10, 2012, 07:02:39 pm
"BREAKING: Game of Thrones has been renewed for a third season. Share this update and spread the word across the realm."

From their facebook. No surprises really.
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Post by: Bjarky on April 10, 2012, 07:08:36 pm
weeeeeeeeeeee
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Post by: Leesin on April 10, 2012, 07:09:42 pm
"BREAKING: Game of Thrones has been renewed for a third season. Share this update and spread the word across the realm."

From their facebook. No surprises really.

Yeah, didn't exactly seem like breaking news to me, I don't think anyone doubted it would get a third season lol.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 10, 2012, 07:21:43 pm
But nice to have it confirmed, anyway  :)
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 10, 2012, 07:35:20 pm
But nice to have it confirmed, anyway  :)
Indeed. Also who would have thought of this a couple of years ago.
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Post by: Banok on April 10, 2012, 11:41:49 pm
Don't think it will take long before the TV show is waiting for the next book to come out ;p
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Post by: Overdriven on April 11, 2012, 01:35:15 am
Well I guess he'll start churning the books out now  :P
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 11, 2012, 11:12:38 am
Don't think it will take long before the TV show is waiting for the next book to come out ;p
seems they bought themselves some time: "This one will cover (roughly) the first half or thereabouts of A STORM OF SWORDS, the third novel in the series."

So there are about 4 seasons to come before they need a new book.

ultra mild Book spoilers:
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 11, 2012, 03:39:08 pm
it is retarded. even after the sixth book there is still loose ends, nothing happening in the plot just scattered characters.
Martin will never finish the series because he is lazy fat fuck.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 11, 2012, 04:38:40 pm
it is retarded. even after the sixth book there is still loose ends, nothing happening in the plot just scattered characters.
Martin will never finish the series because he is lazy fat fuck.
you are so fucking wrong, I only hope he lives long enough to prove it to people like you.
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Post by: Torben on April 11, 2012, 04:45:48 pm
 i finally get from where all you guys got your names ^^
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Post by: Oberyn on April 11, 2012, 05:30:37 pm
Martin is a lazy fat fuck, and he will probably die of cholesterol implosion or something before finishing the series. I still enjoy the books, though.
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Post by: Banok on April 11, 2012, 08:08:31 pm

So there are about 4 seasons to come before they need a new book.
Yeah but look at dates of when books came out, we probably wont see the next book till 2020.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 12, 2012, 04:06:21 am
Yeah but look at dates of when books came out, we probably wont see the next book till 2020.
oh, I wouldn't worry about the next book, five years seems time enough. But after that they will have to wait a couple of years for the last (If it will be the last). :D
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Post by: RibaldRon on April 12, 2012, 04:23:49 am
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't he searching for somebody to finish the books FOR HIM?

Somebody that he liked the writing style of, etc, of  course in the event that he himself could  not finish them for the aforementioned reasons. :rolleyes:


E: For those of you new to the series, he's averaged 3 years inbetween each book release, and has been getting slower and slower about it.  I only picked the series up recently, I had finished the entire thing when the show was announced, but I was still amazed to find out that he started writing them in 1991.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 12, 2012, 01:22:15 pm
I don't want to derail this thread into a serious discussion about Martins working style, there is already plenty of that out there.

Warning, click the links ony if you've read all books, spoilers ahead!

 Just read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire#First_three_novels_.281991.E2.80.932000.29) two paragraphs on wikipedia and strongly recommended this (http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html) post from his blog and perhaps read/watch some interviews from him.

If you still don't understand why had to do things the way he did and why it took him so long and if he would do things not in his way the books wouldn't be half as awesome you should stop reading and stop complaining.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 12, 2012, 10:01:58 pm
Stories of this caliber needs time to mature. The Lord of Rings trilogy took 18 years to get published, 12 of which were used for writing alone.
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Post by: bosco on April 15, 2012, 06:00:46 pm
New episode today.

Also, te-he

http://youtu.be/D3PeNGsuAr8
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Post by: bilwit on April 15, 2012, 10:47:13 pm
it is retarded. even after the sixth book there is still loose ends, nothing happening in the plot just scattered characters.
Martin will never finish the series because he is lazy fat fuck.

It's true.
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Post by: Banok on April 16, 2012, 05:47:15 am
EPISODE 3 was great watch but seems the most deviant from books so far.

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 16, 2012, 12:05:09 pm
best episode so far this season.

"I allways hated crossbows." :D
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Post by: Largg on April 16, 2012, 01:48:08 pm
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oh Renly what did they do to you!
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Post by: Overdriven on April 16, 2012, 01:56:39 pm
best episode so far this season.

"I allways hated crossbows." :D

Hahahaha best line in the entire 2 series so far  :lol:

Ah smart Arya.
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Post by: ThePoopy on April 17, 2012, 12:41:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TdKhbDhyz30#t=175s
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Post by: Oberyn on April 17, 2012, 01:55:14 am
Haha good stuff. The guy who makes these has obviously read the books. Here he points out what I was saying about Renly earlier in the thread.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dWgCMIg-E9Y#t=87s
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Post by: Banok on April 23, 2012, 08:50:30 am
episode 4.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 23, 2012, 02:15:39 pm
Loved the way they made Harenhal look.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 23, 2012, 05:10:10 pm
An article  (http://screenrant.com/game-thrones-season-3-4-5-details-aco-160936/) where the producers talk about possible seasons past season 3.

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The plan, if we’re lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to George’s entire opus.
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Post by: Armpit_Sweat on April 24, 2012, 06:09:14 pm
   
Omg.. Second season is terrible :( Cheap production and terrible acting. Just finished the first 3 episodes - what a huge disappointment. NOTHING BUT BLA-BLA-BLA TALKING FOR 2 HOURS with extremely predictable dialogs! wtf?.. 
 
OK, ok,  its still watchable, but definitely worse than first season. Waaa-aay worse.
Same as Walking Dead - great first season, and everyone keeps watching, even though its a steaming pile of shit since season 2. 
 
Bah.. I will smoke a new joint and chill for a while. Was waiting 2 hours for something interesting to happen on the screen - and now it feels like this:
 
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 24, 2012, 07:00:57 pm
   
Omg.. Second season is terrible :( Cheap production and terrible acting. Just finished the first 3 episodes - what a huge disappointment. NOTHING BUT BLA-BLA-BLA TALKING FOR 2 HOURS with extremely predictable dialogs! wtf?.. 
I wonder why you enjoyed the first season at all...
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Post by: Bjarky on April 24, 2012, 07:40:17 pm
i like the 2nd season, the eps are getting better each week  :)
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 24, 2012, 07:41:30 pm
i like the 2nd season, the eps are getting better each week  :)
I thought the 3rd was best so far, but the last one right after that.
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Post by: Bjarky on April 24, 2012, 08:16:37 pm
the end of the 4rth is awsome   :twisted:
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Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on April 24, 2012, 08:38:04 pm
the end of the 4rth is awsome   :twisted:
Always use a condom.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 24, 2012, 10:09:09 pm
   
Omg.. Second season is terrible :( Cheap production and terrible acting. Just finished the first 3 episodes - what a huge disappointment. NOTHING BUT BLA-BLA-BLA TALKING FOR 2 HOURS with extremely predictable dialogs! wtf?.. 

2nd season is great so far. I actually prefer it to the first as more is happening. The first season took till episode 6 to actually pick up the pace. The beginning was largely backstory and slow build up. Plus the dialogues are pretty much taken straight from the book...and in that sense they are very similar to the first.

Basically both seasons are very similar but I think this one is better so far simply because the story is picking up.
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Post by: Beauchamp on April 25, 2012, 08:39:08 pm
wtf that c... gave birth to?
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Post by: Bjarky on April 25, 2012, 08:53:36 pm
wtf that c... gave birth to?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 25, 2012, 11:30:27 pm
wtf that c... gave birth to?
Why, the promised son! Isn't he a beauty?
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Post by: Beauchamp on April 27, 2012, 11:39:43 am
in all the episodes so far something happened that was really promising for the next episodes. yet in every next episode nothing happens except for the promising things for the next episodes. i start to think that this is how is it going to be forever.

last time i also almost thought i'm going to see a battle, but instead... "KING OF THE NORTH!!!" /cut /post battle scene
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Post by: Overdriven on April 27, 2012, 11:57:23 am
Battles are expensive. Hell they barely even mention the destroying of Jaime's army at riverun and whispering wood in the first season. Just that they sacrificed some men and captured him. I think they have a big battle scene towards the end of the season from what we've been hearing though.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 27, 2012, 01:02:11 pm
Battles are expensive. Hell they barely even mention the destroying of Jaime's army at riverun and whispering wood in the first season. Just that they sacrificed some men and captured him. I think they have a big battle scene towards the end of the season from what we've been hearing though.
yes, exactly there is a big battle near the end of this season. It is the biggest and best described battle in the books as well, and it will be in the series and the script of the episode is written by Martin.

And for the other point, yes it is something that you could say of the books as well in general. George Martin provides immense stuff that is preparing for a very big and complex drama/action, which has in most parts still not been delivered. But personally I am very confident, because you see in smallisher story arcs how well that actually happens. Book readers should know what I am referring to (several events). Just be patient and enjoy the fine story arcs, and especially the very well thought-out character developments and reasons for their actions. You will be surprised many times and yet all actions and events seems reasonable for the individual character and realistic in general.

and more battle-scenes in the series would be great, really a shame they have only a couple of million dolllar. Still, it is better they do it this way and everything looks good than more stuff that look crap.
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Post by: bilwit on April 27, 2012, 02:19:35 pm
in all the episodes so far something happened that was really promising for the next episodes. yet in every next episode nothing happens except for the promising things for the next episodes. i start to think that this is how is it going to be forever.

last time i also almost thought i'm going to see a battle, but instead... "KING OF THE NORTH!!!" /cut /post battle scene

Be happy Rob at least gets a lot of screen time. You only hear about him peripherally in the books.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 27, 2012, 03:09:46 pm
I can't believe they made a show of this. George RR Martin can't even finish the goddam books.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 27, 2012, 03:11:43 pm
A rather extensive interview with him (Skip to about 7:30 for the beginning of the proper interview):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTTW8M_etko

It's actually very very interesting hearing about all of it from the guy himself.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 27, 2012, 03:19:02 pm
judging by his posts I don't think Anal is interested in these things.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 27, 2012, 04:10:13 pm
I am really impressed at how well Brienne is captured in the TV series, and the Mountain, too, not easy characters to make.

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 27, 2012, 04:46:59 pm
I am really impressed at how well Brienne is captured in the TV series, and the Mountain, too, not easy characters to make.

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Its a shame the actor from season 1 got a job in "The Hobbit", I fear I won't get warm with the new mountain, too skinny. But yeah, Brienne seemes to be awesome, she's 2 or 3 heads taller than Catelyn and she has the right look.

And no, I don't think it is that apparent in the books. Its one of the few things I don't like about the TV series, many "hints" are way too blatant and repeated too often. Like scheming Littlefinger or homosexuality of Renly.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 27, 2012, 05:35:02 pm
Agreed.

What do you think of the Greyjoys?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 27, 2012, 06:46:48 pm
What do you think of the Greyjoys?
Brilliant. I love the voice of Balon Greyjoy. And Theon tops it all,
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As well as the whole setting, scenery and costumes. Pike looks great.
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Post by: Bjarky on April 27, 2012, 08:56:15 pm
A rather extensive interview with him (Skip to about 7:30 for the beginning of the proper interview):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTTW8M_etko

It's actually very very interesting hearing about all of it from the guy himself.
very nice interview there  :D
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Post by: Leesin on April 27, 2012, 11:12:06 pm


What do you think of the Greyjoys?

I know you weren't asking me, but I thought it was hot as fuck when Theon Greyjoy was rubbing his sisters pussy.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 29, 2012, 08:36:14 pm
check out this bad review of the show: http://bangordailynews.com/2012/04/28/living/thats-enough-skin-on-game-of-thrones/?ref=mostReadBoxNews

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Post by: Bjarky on April 30, 2012, 09:54:55 am
hmmm, the latest ep could have used a bit more action, but oh well, i was still entertained.
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Post by: Earthdforce on April 30, 2012, 11:04:38 am
I'm not gonna lie, when Margaery Tyrell stripped, I got a little turned on...
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Post by: Banok on April 30, 2012, 07:46:07 pm
just realised, no jojen or mira, are they cut our completely or will we see them later? they are pretty important. the more they change things the more I worry as the series continues it will go downhill.
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Post by: Angantyr on April 30, 2012, 08:33:18 pm
Brilliant. I love the voice of Balon Greyjoy. And Theon tops it all,
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As well as the whole setting, scenery and costumes. Pike looks great.
Yes, agreed. Pyke looked even better than what I had imagined (with the Eyrie looking completely different). Though Theon and Asha aren't as charismatic as described in the books they fill their roles very well
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Balon is great (looks a lot like the pre-tv series fan art) and the Drowned priest hints at a fine Damphair to come. Also can't wait to see Victarion and Euron.


I know you weren't asking me, but I thought it was hot as fuck when Theon Greyjoy was rubbing his sisters pussy.
Asking anyone really, and yes, it's a great scene (and even better in the books, where it's quite a long ride  :wink:).
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Post by: Overdriven on May 07, 2012, 01:09:00 pm
Brutal episode with the riot.
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Post by: Aleskander on May 08, 2012, 04:25:31 pm
Brutal episode with the riot.

Zombies of Westeros
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 09, 2012, 05:01:38 am
not a lot of tits in the last episode.
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Post by: bosco on May 28, 2012, 03:09:48 pm
Last episode was quite good, although the battle for King's Landing felt more like an average round on the Siege server.
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Post by: Bjarky on May 28, 2012, 04:50:43 pm
loved the fireworks  :twisted:
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Post by: pingpong on May 29, 2012, 10:07:59 pm
I dont get this last episode, the lady of light or that redhead woman who gave birth to that shadow assasin-ghost-spirit thing, if she was on Stanis side where was she? Why she didnt use the shadow from her vagina to kill the lannisters like it killed that gay lord Renly?  I sense obvious plothole here...  :|
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Post by: B3RS3RK on May 29, 2012, 10:08:57 pm
Because shadows from vaginas dont come easily.D´oh.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 29, 2012, 10:18:09 pm
Because Davos convinced him not to take her with him in episode 7 or 8.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 29, 2012, 10:18:35 pm
I dont get this last episode, the lady of light or that redhead woman who gave birth to that shadow assasin-ghost-spirit thing, if she was on Stanis side where was she? Why she didnt use the shadow from her vagina to kill the lannisters like it killed that gay lord Renly?  I sense obvious plothole here...  :|
haha, I sense obvious not-understanding-the-whole-thing here. Its not that easy with magic in this fantasy.

however, there is even a scene a couple of episodes before, where Davos bids Stannis to not take Melisandre with them because he obviously didn't liked what he saw.

Thought the last episode was brilliant, and loved the version of "The Rains of Castamere" at the end. (Its a song in the books about how Tywin Lannister smashed a rebell house long time before the events now.)
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 31, 2012, 04:53:50 am
I thought in the books they used a giant chain to block the ships in or something. Also I thought the battle was at the end of Book 3.
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Post by: BlindGuy on May 31, 2012, 06:56:42 am
I fucking hate the names. WHY do all mediocre fantasists (and let's be honest, George R.R. Martin is an average writer at best) have to give their characters stupid fucking names? George, Carl, Frank, Tom, these are great names. So is Bob. I think in the entire story there are about 4 characters with normal names (and even then Peter is spelled Petyr or some shit), and this is a ridiculous tool used by desperatly uninspired and untalented writers to make their universes seem more mystical, fantastical or someshit. Enough.



Sam, thats another good name. And Frederick. And John. Fuck Daenerys Targaryen, wtf is that, a fucking anagram of a village in Wales or something? Bugger that.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 31, 2012, 11:26:38 am
Yeah. I want Bob to slay the crocodiles in Edinburgh Zoo and wage war against the Glasgow Pimps.

Realism bitches.

If anything, Martin keeps it pretty low key with the names apart from the Targaryen names which are foreign to Westeros.

Of course you could have Lisa Humperdink instead of Daenerys Targaryen but that might not reflect that the Humperdinks came from old Valyria with dragons.

Ned(Eddard), Robb, Theon, Jaime, Sansa, Aria, Bronn, Brann, Asha, Osha, Catelyn. They're not that impossible. I'm surprised you're not complaining about the "Ser" instead of "Sir" and "Maester" instead of "Master".

Anyway, I agree Tolkien and practically all fantasists are mediocre fantasists because their characters have silly names.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 31, 2012, 01:47:36 pm
I'm more set back by his obsession to describe the families with metaphoric animals (which are their sigils as well) all the time. Also some of the family "words" are stupid "Hear me roar" wtf?

I wonder at the names sometimes, too, especially of places and such. But then again I walk through the streets of some german towns and look at the names of the streets or the names of the towns or the names of the people who live there, ridiculous.

And you can say many things of martin's writing style, but the one thing which is brilliant and makes this fantasy-drama outstanding IMO is the sharpness, depth and realistic description of the characters, their actions and their interaction with other characters and their character-development. Lasts episodes prime example: The Hound. (Or Cersei?)
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Post by: Earthdforce on May 31, 2012, 05:54:51 pm
Humperdink

Someone's been watching the Princess Bride ;)
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on May 31, 2012, 06:32:57 pm
More like Eurovision unfortunately.
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Post by: BlindGuy on May 31, 2012, 08:27:47 pm
Someone's been watching the Princess Bride ;)

As it happens Humperdink is a name dating back 400 years... dont know about the Princess Bride tho, not seen it.
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Post by: B3RS3RK on May 31, 2012, 09:02:05 pm
And Frederick

That´s my actual fucking name Oo

btw. I think fantasy names are ok.Sure, they seem weird sometimes...But in a fantasy world, Culture will have developed differently to ours, with different languages.It´s not unlikely that they will have found other names than the ones we grew used to over centuries.
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Post by: Aleskander on June 01, 2012, 03:35:08 am
I don't see why it matters, pay attention to the story and not the names, they are really immaterial.
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 04, 2012, 02:13:27 pm
i hope they kill that fatty hiding behind a rock just at the start of the next episode. i hate that illogical character and his annoying voice. but im quite afraid he will again illogically survieve and i will have to listen to his gibberish until the end of my days.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2012, 02:37:16 pm
i hope they kill that fatty hiding behind a rock just at the start of the next episode. i hate that illogical character and his annoying voice. but im quite afraid he will again illogically survieve and i will have to listen to his gibberish until the end of my days.
one of my favourite characters! :D
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Post by: ThePoopy on June 04, 2012, 03:09:18 pm
zombies  :o
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Post by: Xant on June 04, 2012, 03:20:19 pm
I'm more set back by his obsession to describe the families with metaphoric animals (which are their sigils as well) all the time. Also some of the family "words" are stupid "Hear me roar" wtf?

Why are those stupid? Historic noble families had similar mottos in their Coat of Arms. Modern military units have them as well. Have you noticed that countries nowadays also use animals metaphorically all the time, in their coat of arms and otherwise?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2012, 03:58:24 pm
Why are those stupid? Historic noble families had similar mottos in their Coat of Arms. Modern military units have them as well. Have you noticed that countries nowadays also use animals metaphorically all the time, in their coat of arms and otherwise?
To my ears some of these words sound strangely modern-american, not fitting into the rest. Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps I'll go check some example devices in the libabry... (unlikely, and what will it proof?) And I think some of the mottos are quite good (like "we do not sow")

I don't remember exactly where it was, but I think there were often sentences where people talked or thought about lions and wolves and stags and actually meant the houses of course. No big deal, though. Simply didn't liked it that much.



zombies  :o
yes, and even the classic slow-type :P
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 04, 2012, 04:12:46 pm
the names Stark and Lannister are based on York and Lancaster of the War of the Roses.
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 04, 2012, 06:40:46 pm
one of my favourite characters! :D

Wtf how sbdy can ever like that one? All parts with him are the most boring and illogical ones, I can't imagine that in "reality" that fat clumsy pig would survive any march on a Night's Watch. I doubt he'd ever make any friends there. He just doesn't fit there at all and he should die, the sooner the better! I'd like to see him as a wildling zombie or what you turn into if you die there though...
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Post by: Bjarky on June 04, 2012, 06:50:35 pm
Ah loved this ep, especially the end and the part where our 3 little friends and mommy got re-united, warmed my heart <3
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Post by: pingpong on June 04, 2012, 10:15:22 pm
SO wait the ending, is that massive daywalker army part of mansraiders barbarian hordde or is it just like whole different story?
DAMN season 3 is gonna be interesting with  3 draggons, thousands of daywalkers and barbarians laying waste to westeros, and also with the wwar between Stark & Lannister

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Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2012, 10:29:20 pm
Wtf is a daywalker?
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Post by: pingpong on June 04, 2012, 10:34:19 pm
Wtf is a daywalker?

NOT SURE IF SILLY OR JUST STUPID?

the daywalker, you know, the zombie like creature that John Snow killed while one attacked the wall on season 1, they can only be killed with fire, they come from north of the wall, apparently people who die there turns to one if they are not burned upon death.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 05, 2012, 01:03:03 am
Wtf is a daywalker?

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 05, 2012, 01:08:11 am
Wtf how sbdy can ever like that one? All parts with him are the most boring and illogical ones, I can't imagine that in "reality" that fat clumsy pig would survive any march on a Night's Watch. I doubt he'd ever make any friends there. He just doesn't fit there at all and he should die, the sooner the better! I'd like to see him as a wildling zombie or what you turn into if you die there though...
It is allways difficult to imagine how the characters would appear to me if I hadn't read the books, and maybe there are really some weaknesses of the show.

Based on my knowledge of the books however Sam is a very realistic character to me, but it also took me quite a while to like him. Then, when I first time saw the actor I thought he was very fitting. But of course there is many background missing in the show and you don't (yet) get a feeling that he has a sharp mind and is even very brave in his own way considering his background.
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Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on June 05, 2012, 01:08:37 am
NOT SURE IF SILLY OR JUST STUPID?

the daywalker, you know, the zombie like creature that John Snow killed while one attacked the wall on season 1, they can only be killed with fire, they come from north of the wall, apparently people who die there turns to one if they are not burned upon death.

Its white walker...
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 05, 2012, 01:12:01 am
Its white walker...
and wights?
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on June 05, 2012, 01:13:45 am
White walker = Guy with blue eyes
Wights = Zombies
Daywalker = Wesley Snipes the Vampire Slayer
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Post by: pingpong on June 05, 2012, 12:47:55 pm
White walker = Guy with blue eyes
Wights = Zombies
Daywalker = Wesley Snipes the Vampire Slayer

Yea my bad :oops:, but back to my point is there a connection between mansraiders army and that whitewalker horde we saw at the end, i mean are they allies or something?
If so house stark is about to be royally buttfucked in season 3 :shock:
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Post by: Jock on June 05, 2012, 01:24:48 pm
Mance Rayder gathered his force because of the White Walkers were coming down from the far north and killing the wildlings and whatnot. Hence the wildling army is marching south, to get away from the White Walkers.
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Post by: bilwit on June 05, 2012, 04:30:02 pm
Yea my bad :oops:, but back to my point is there a connection between mansraiders army and that whitewalker horde we saw at the end, i mean are they allies or something?
If so house stark is about to be royally buttfucked in season 3 :shock:

You mean more buttfucked then losing all leverage and cause in the war with the Lannisters and Winterfell being sacked all in season 2? Actually you're right, it does get worse for them :(
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Post by: Xant on June 05, 2012, 04:48:47 pm
Wtf how sbdy can ever like that one? All parts with him are the most boring and illogical ones, I can't imagine that in "reality" that fat clumsy pig would survive any march on a Night's Watch. I doubt he'd ever make any friends there. He just doesn't fit there at all and he should die, the sooner the better! I'd like to see him as a wildling zombie or what you turn into if you die there though...

Why do you doubt he'd ever make any friends there? He seems like a nice enough chap.
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Post by: Aleskander on June 05, 2012, 05:47:21 pm
Showmy old friends don't even know about my Red Wedding
Yes, it gets much worse for the starks
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Post by: Logen on June 05, 2012, 05:55:24 pm
Why do you doubt he'd ever make any friends there? He seems like a nice enough chap.
Night's Watch is an army, and a very harsh one at that. He really wouldnt survive there, he does not fit in, an outcast. And not strong enough to live like that.
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 05, 2012, 06:42:58 pm
Why do you doubt he'd ever make any friends there? He seems like a nice enough chap.
cause he's a pussy
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Post by: bredeus on June 05, 2012, 10:09:37 pm
And Snow likes pussies
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Post by: Penitent on June 05, 2012, 11:20:31 pm
Showmy old friends don't even know about my Red Wedding
Yes, it gets much worse for the starks

Ok, it gets worse.  I figured it would.  But, does it get better?

I know this story is not one about holding hands and living happily ever after...but still...I need to know something.

Without giving specific spoilers...do good things happen to the likable characters?  What I mean is...is this story more than just a few minor "victories" separated by numerous gargantuan and tragic "defeats?"
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 05, 2012, 11:29:26 pm
characters have very deliberate arcs in the series, though certainly "tragedy" either expected or unexpected pepper the stories of everyone in their own ways

houses rise and fall, good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people, but people are always "playing the game" from all sorts of sides, most stories are still no where near conclusion as its only book 5 of a 7 part series

to answer your question, some characters still have yet to have some of the most FUCK YEAH! moments of the series, and others just get ridiculously fucked, though its usually by a deliberate series of decisions they have made to get them into that position

in short, read the books!  they're fantastic
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Post by: bilwit on June 05, 2012, 11:47:37 pm
Ok, it gets worse.  I figured it would.  But, does it get better?

Any answer to this question, even "yes" or "no" would be a spoiler. But since you asked, no. GRR Martin is a huge troll :P

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 06, 2012, 01:25:42 am
Any answer to this question, even "yes" or "no" would be a spoiler. But since you asked, no. GRR Martin is a huge troll :P

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Garison, don't read the spoilers even if there harmless.
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Post by: bilwit on June 06, 2012, 01:55:15 am
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Garison, don't read the spoilers even if there harmless.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 06, 2012, 02:57:13 am
It is not close to being resolved after book 5, but there is still book 6 and 7 to finish the story. However, with the rate at which he is writing, they won't be finished until the year 2020-2025. I don't know about the tv show, I guess it will catch up to the end of Book 5 in three more seasons.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 06, 2012, 12:20:26 pm
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 06, 2012, 06:30:28 pm
btw, a question for those of you who didn't read the books: Did that ending with Jon Snow and Quorin Halfhand make sense to you?
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Post by: Penitent on June 06, 2012, 06:37:23 pm
btw, a question for those of you who didn't read the books: Did that ending with Jon Snow and Quorin Halfhand make sense to you?

I didn't read the books, tell me if I'm right or wrong.

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I can see how that would be confusing though.  Am I right?
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Post by: Bjarky on June 06, 2012, 06:48:01 pm
yes and he is gonna "dip that thang" if u know what i mean, thats at least what i expect, haven't read the books either  :P
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Post by: bilwit on June 07, 2012, 04:39:12 am
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It was a statement generalized to fit all characters and parties solely directed at progress. Every story has a resolution and after six books, the displacement is ultimately null. It seems like a drawn out and cheap way to milk something at this point, with no near end in sight.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 07, 2012, 10:22:36 am
It was a statement generalized to fit all characters and parties solely directed at progress. Every story has a resolution and after six books, the displacement is ultimately null. It seems like a drawn out and cheap way to milk something at this point, with no near end in sight.
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And yes Garison, you are right. Good to hear this was comprehensible, seemed a bit awkward realised to me, this storyline.
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Post by: Cyber on June 07, 2012, 10:41:19 am
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
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Post by: Bulzur on June 07, 2012, 10:59:12 am
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
Well, it's definitely more entertaining than reading your comments, that's for sure.
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Post by: Xant on June 07, 2012, 05:02:30 pm
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:

What's awful about it?
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 07, 2012, 05:40:58 pm
I hate myself for watching this show and reading the books. However, I can't stop so there must be something about it which is decent.
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Post by: Logen on June 07, 2012, 07:15:37 pm
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
Hey, people watch spartacus  :wink:
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Post by: chadz on June 07, 2012, 07:44:53 pm
how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:

with piratebay.

(oh and s02e10 was fucking boring. should have just ended it with 09 which was pretty good, 10 just made sure i'm not at all thrilled for s03. i guess that can also be considered a good thing.)
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Post by: Leesin on June 07, 2012, 11:32:21 pm
with piratebay.

(oh and s02e10 was fucking boring. should have just ended it with 09 which was pretty good, 10 just made sure i'm not at all thrilled for s03. i guess that can also be considered a good thing.)

I disagree with episode 10 being 'boring', it's main purpose was to tie off the seasons happenings and to set up for the next season, which it did, my old friendET DONKEY.

oh and use eztv.it for TV shows, better speeds and consistency broseph.
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Post by: Earthdforce on June 07, 2012, 11:49:32 pm
oh and use eztv.it for TV shows, better speeds and consistency broseph.
eztv uploads on piratebay...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on June 08, 2012, 12:58:56 am
eztv uploads on piratebay...

Not consistently and not every show.
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Post by: Aleskander on June 08, 2012, 02:06:43 am
There are always streams on /tv/
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 08, 2012, 05:46:58 pm
Ahh reading this the adaption kind of makes more sense

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David Benioff noted during the airing of the second season that they would delay the introduction of several key characters first appearing in A Clash of Kings until the third season, citing the large number of characters already introduced in season two. Dan Weiss added that they couldn't afford to have people "waiting around" for their characters to become central to the plot.

I'll put the list of chars inside a spoiler just incase, although it doesn't really spoiling anything.

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for me blackfish is one of the most likeable characters although hes not a POV character, will be interesting to see who they cast for these roles. hope we get info come out like last time to make the 10 month wait more bearable.
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Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2012, 08:08:13 pm
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:

You know I actually get it. To some people it may seem boring. All the talking and other crap and not enough battles or murder eventually gets borin. But yea, I like the show.....but when its nothing but talk 3 episodes in a row, I do get bored of it sometimes....overall its still awesome. Episode 9 was just soo good.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 08, 2012, 09:47:17 pm
talking and other crap
how they dare talking on screen!
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Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2012, 09:55:34 pm
how they dare talking on screen!

Dont act like u dont know what I was sayin and trying to be funny by taking a sentence out of context, that joke is way too old.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 08, 2012, 10:05:02 pm
Dont act like u dont know what I was sayin and trying to be funny by taking a sentence out of context, that joke is way too old.
Wasn't it funny?  :cry:
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Post by: Tibe on June 09, 2012, 09:04:59 am
Wasn't it funny?  :cry:

It was...
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Post by: Leesin on June 09, 2012, 12:06:07 pm
If someone wants senseless violence they can watch shit like the Spartacus series, which is good in its own right, but Game of Thrones is vastly superior in terms of story, characters, acting etc and I enjoy it, the few fights there are on screen are alot more meaningful, I would rather wait 2 or 3 episodes to see a real story effecting fight than see 10 meaningless over the top ones all in one episode, ala Spartacus.
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Post by: Klauwaert on June 09, 2012, 01:05:12 pm
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
Stream: http://www.couchtuner.com/game-of-thrones-stream/ (http://www.couchtuner.com/game-of-thrones-stream/)
Or download on Piratebay.
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Post by: chadz on June 09, 2012, 03:10:53 pm
I disagree with episode 10 being 'boring', it's main purpose was to tie off the seasons happenings and to set up for the next season, which it did, my old friendET equus africanus asinus.


That's kind of the point - it didn't tie off anything. There's like 10 different story lines not resolved, the conversations were dull and meaningless, the plot nonexisting. Overall, S01 was way better than S02.

(Not hating the show overall, just think S10 was a huge letdown)
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 14, 2012, 05:40:14 am
don't read the books then, you will be even more disappointed at the lack of cohesiveness in the story, as nothing gets closer to being resolved.
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Post by: Xant on June 14, 2012, 06:41:23 am
That's kind of the point - it didn't tie off anything. There's like 10 different story lines not resolved, the conversations were dull and meaningless, the plot nonexisting. Overall, S01 was way better than S02.

(Not hating the show overall, just think S10 was a huge letdown)

The whole episode was like a massive cliffhanger. I don't think that's necessarily bad though. S02 was great, IMO.
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 14, 2012, 08:32:20 am
The first novel, and consequentially the first season, is by far the best self contained story in the series.  Ned really grounds the narrative except for a few trips to Essos with Dany who has her own tight, focused story with great side characters.  Stark vs Lannisters + King's Landing being a backstabbing shithole city keeps things moving, and rather simple.

Book 2 is where the GRRM really starts stepping out of his comfort zone and introducing tons new characters, conflicts, and locations.  I totally get where a tv viewer could come from seeing it not live up to the first season, especially because not enough time is given to any of the scenes except a few select setpieces to let you learn the new characters and their motivations.

Lucky for you guys, the third book, and most likely the next seasons, really makes everything in the second pay off a thousand times over.  Its fucking crazy, to put it mildly.  Really one of the most entertaining books I've read, with more twists, suspense, insane levels of badassedness, and small but poignant character moments than any TV show or something like that I can think of.

In fact, book 3 is so good, they decided one season can't do it justice, so they are splitting it in two.  I am really looking forward to seeing some of this shit on TV.

After book 3?  :?
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Post by: Xant on June 14, 2012, 10:47:45 am
Well... it's pretty commonly agreed that A Feast for Crows was more or less a misstep from GRRM. It didn't get very good reviews. The main characters are missing and so on. But A Dance With Dragons got stellar reviews and the main characters make up a good chunk of the book.
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Post by: Teeth on June 14, 2012, 11:38:38 am
I'm sort off hoping they will just skip book 4. That was a piece of shit.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 14, 2012, 01:02:08 pm
I'm sort off hoping they will just skip book 4. That was a piece of shit.
I disagree. I am convinced once the series is finished, the ingeniousness of a Feast for Crows will be discovered. I enjoyed the book very much and it is exactly as smoothrich described with book 2, it sets ground for the finish of the series. You all will see.

As for S02E10 I fucking loved that as well, to see Tyrion lose everything he has build up in a single stroke by his father on his shitting horse, or Luwins death, or the destroyed throne room covered in snow and many other great scenes. Well, in case you didn't notice I am a bit of a fanboy of this series :D

On another note I am curious as well what they will do with Book 4 and 5 on screen, and I am pretty sure they will merge both books into 1 or 2 seasons without the character split.
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 14, 2012, 11:36:58 pm
what is the last episode, 10th?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Smoothrich on June 15, 2012, 12:41:12 am
I disagree. I am convinced once the series is finished, the ingeniousness of a Feast for Crows will be discovered. I enjoyed the book very much and it is exactly as smoothrich described with book 2, it sets ground for the finish of the series. You all will see.

As for S02E10 I fucking loved that as well, to see Tyrion lose everything he has build up in a single stroke by his father on his shitting horse, or Luwins death, or the destroyed throne room covered in snow and many other great scenes. Well, in case you didn't notice I am a bit of a fanboy of this series :D

On another note I am curious as well what they will do with Book 4 and 5 on screen, and I am pretty sure they will merge both books into 1 or 2 seasons without the character split.

I think most of the problems with book 4 and 5 are that GRRM originally wanted a "time jump" to happen and advance the plot by 4-5 years.  This was intended to age up all the characters and get everyone in position for a big final showdown in the last book.  He decided to scrap the book he was working on and start over with Feast for Crows though, because he felt the aftermath of Book 3 was too important to his story to skip.

I think some of the plot lines really suffer for this and feel like they are unfocused and aren't getting to where they need to be, but there is still 2 more books, lol god knows if they ever come out.  Other characters are still immensely enjoyable, and the books as a whole are still excellent reads.

And yeah, I imagine books 4 and 5 will not be divided by character perspective, a big thing with a TV series is that actors you have on contract need to get moments to show up.  Jamie and Twyin Lannister, and Robb Stark, barely show up in book 2, however the showrunners gave them lots of extra scenes to keep them working and in the show.  All really good scenes I might add.

And for what faults season 2 of GoT has, its one of my favorite shows that I've seen.  HBO owns.  Check out HBO's Rome if you want something similar and never seen it, its great!
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Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2012, 08:34:48 am
And for what faults season 2 of GoT has, its one of my favorite shows that I've seen.  HBO owns.  Check out HBO's Rome if you want something similar and never seen it, its great!

I can't agree more on this. GoT as well as Rome (just finishing season 2 of Rome) are indescribably good. Good thing I have a big TV and HBO in full HD  8-)
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2012, 10:01:00 am
big HBO fan here. Titus! A shame they cancelled that one. Personally I think The Wire is the best TV show ever made. Also liked Sopranos and on a total different level Flight of the Chonchords, gotta love Jermain. "Brit?"
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Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2012, 10:10:19 am
big HBO fan here. Titus! A shame they cancelled that one.

Well to be honest the further story is not as interesting once Octavian becomes emperor of Rome, no more fights for power as Octavian stays on the throne till he dies at the age of 75 :D
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2012, 10:20:04 am
Well to be honest the further story is not as interesting once Octavian becomes emperor of Rome, no more fights for power as Octavian stays on the throne till he dies at the age of 75 :D
eh? I already posted that? strange.

well, the problem is that the show was planned to go much longer. Then they cancelled it and cramped much stuff together in the last season with big time gaps and so on.
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Post by: Angantyr on June 16, 2012, 01:36:44 pm
OZ is another great HBO series.
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Post by: Banok on July 14, 2012, 11:14:56 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpSDSgChsaI

season 3 castings, finnaly some missing characters

edit: haha thought I recognised messandei, 2nd one of danny's maids they have cast from hollyoaks (a REALLY shit soap here in the uk)
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Post by: Gnjus on July 16, 2012, 10:28:12 am
Clive Russell ftw.  http://www.squidoo.com/13thwarrior
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Post by: Overdriven on December 04, 2012, 02:18:44 am
And so it starts again:

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Post by: Leesin on December 04, 2012, 08:30:20 am
And so it starts again:


God damn, now I have to go listen to the shows theme tune a few times just to make this boner go away.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 04, 2012, 08:58:44 am
She's 15, man. And this ain't Sweden.

EDIT: Actually. Just realized this is Westeros, so do go on.  :wink:
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Post by: Bjarky on December 04, 2012, 09:45:05 am
 :mrgreen:
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Post by: Torben on December 04, 2012, 09:52:23 am
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Post by: Angantyr on December 04, 2012, 05:07:38 pm
Love Emilia Clarke's obvious enthusiasm for the books and the universe in every interview, great cast!
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Post by: Overdriven on December 19, 2012, 07:55:48 am
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Post by: pingpong on December 19, 2012, 11:19:28 am
TYRION LANNISTER MY HERO <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3333333333


i hope theres more joffreyslapping in season 3
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Post by: Berserkadin on December 20, 2012, 12:45:15 am
Oh my god, Maisie Williams is over 15. Now my boner is gone :(
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on December 22, 2012, 02:46:43 am
too bad the story isn't that great. G RR Martin can't finish what he started 25 years ago. it takes like a decade for him to write a book.
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Post by: Overdriven on December 22, 2012, 05:21:54 am
Well at least he's told his editor and a few others what is going to happen. Worst comes to worst if he did happen to die or something before finishing the series I'm sure others would do it. It's happened before. Forgotten who the author was but there was a Troy series of books not long ago that were very popular, the author died before writing the last book so his wife and editor wrote the final one based on his notes.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on December 22, 2012, 07:01:27 am
Well at least he's told his editor and a few others what is going to happen. Worst comes to worst if he did happen to die or something before finishing the series I'm sure others would do it. It's happened before. Forgotten who the author was but there was a Troy series of books not long ago that were very popular, the author died before writing the last book so his wife and editor wrote the final one based on his notes.
There's also Tolkien and the Wheel of Times guy.

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Post by: Rumblood on December 22, 2012, 08:14:42 am
Well at least he's told his editor and a few others what is going to happen. Worst comes to worst if he did happen to die or something before finishing the series I'm sure others would do it. It's happened before. Forgotten who the author was but there was a Troy series of books not long ago that were very popular, the author died before writing the last book so his wife and editor wrote the final one based on his notes.

Aren't you thinking of Wheel of Time? Robert Jordan died, its being finished by Brandon Sanderson. Jordan finished through book 11, Sanderson was hired by Jordan's wife to finish it based off of Jordan's notes and has done book 12 and 13 with book 14 (the finale) coming out next month.
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Post by: Smoothrich on December 22, 2012, 08:41:18 pm
too bad the story isn't that great. G RR Martin can't finish what he started 25 years ago. it takes like a decade for him to write a book.

The first three books are fantastic.  Not necessarily just the story, but the pacing.  He was a successful Hollywood script writer in television for several years before he began writing ASOIAF and it really shows.  1k+ page books that are constantly shifting focus, great cliffhangers ending almost every chapter, strong interconnecting themes, a fully realized world mixed with the best of historical fiction and fantasy.  Its really terrific stuff.

After book 3 though, is when he began taking 10 years per book, and they became awful :(.  Terrible pacing, no idea where to take the main plot (was originally going to be a timeskip, instead we get characters doing nothing for 2k pages) and all sorts of  problems in between the really good bits of prose.  Hopefully the tv series cleans those up cuz they are a disappointment.
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Post by: Overdriven on December 22, 2012, 08:44:17 pm
Aren't you thinking of Wheel of Time? Robert Jordan died, its being finished by Brandon Sanderson. Jordan finished through book 11, Sanderson was hired by Jordan's wife to finish it based off of Jordan's notes and has done book 12 and 13 with book 14 (the finale) coming out next month.

No looked it up and it's David Gemmel. He died in 2006 after completing half of the final book so his wife (who was a journalist and had been involved in his writing process) wrote the second half.

They were very good books:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Series

After book 3 though, is when he began taking 10 years per book, and they became awful :(.  Terrible pacing, no idea where to take the main plot (was originally going to be a timeskip, instead we get characters doing nothing for 2k pages) and all sorts of  problems in between the really good bits of prose.  Hopefully the tv series cleans those up cuz they are a disappointment.

I have to agree. Aspects of the story line in the 4th and 5th really did excite me and keep me turning pages but sometimes you can't help but think he is struggling to find stuff for certain pov characters to do yet he has to include them to please everyone as we all have our favourites.

Excited for the 6th book simply to find out what happen's with Jon Snow as it's my favourite story line. I can see your point about the main story. I'm not entirely sure where he is going with it though and how he could possibly tie it all up in another 2 books without a big time jump. But then equally a time jump would suddenly skip a lot of stuff he's set up.

Trying not to write in any spoilers  :P
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on December 22, 2012, 11:35:17 pm
agree with you, the first three are good, I read them twice. book 4 was disappointing after waiting 7 years, then another 7 for book 5 which is kind of shite.
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Post by: Overdriven on January 12, 2013, 02:40:47 am
Chills:


Like the way they did The Rains of Castamere.

For fun...full version of song:
(click to show/hide)
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Post by: no_rules_just_play on January 12, 2013, 04:35:32 am
dont buy the game, its the worst
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Post by: Overdriven on January 16, 2013, 09:22:03 pm
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Post by: bilwit on January 16, 2013, 10:34:22 pm
agree with you, the first three are good, I read them twice. book 4 was disappointing after waiting 7 years, then another 7 for book 5 which is kind of shite.

Feast for Crows is the biggest steaming pile of worthless shit ever. You could skip Feast for Crows altogether and not miss a beat. Thank god I wasn't following the books as they were written because I would have written off the entire series before the show came out upon reading that book. Can't imagine waiting almost a decade for a million pages in which nothing really happens and all the best/more interesting characters aren't present.
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Post by: donib on January 16, 2013, 11:25:23 pm
2/3 through book 5 now. Book 5 is much better compared to 4, which was really boring.
Dunno why you guys dislike 5, i like it, maybe because it has Tyrion, Jon and Daenerys in it.

Though the daenerys chapters are boring like the Cersei chapters from 4, maybe because it are all courtly settings.

I am just wondering how season 3 and perhaps 4 will look like, as some small details deviated from the book, like the whole Bolton business.
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Post by: Smoothrich on January 16, 2013, 11:39:04 pm
2/3 through book 5 now. Book 5 is much better compared to 4, which was really boring.
Dunno why you guys dislike 5, i like it, maybe because it has Tyrion, Jon and Daenerys in it.

Though the daenerys chapters are boring like the Cersei chapters from 4, maybe because it are all courtly settings.

I am just wondering how season 3 and perhaps 4 will look like, as some small details deviated from the book, like the whole Bolton business.

Book 5 is an improvement, but it suffers from a lack of focus and pacing, and not much of a sense of purpose.  Books 1-3 are clearly a coherent, amazing trilogy, with tons of forward momentum building up and mind blowing payoffs all through Book 3.  Books 1 and 2 have their own arcs to every story and big payoffs at the end too, but still all lead towards the end of the trilogy in a very satisying way.

Problem was GRRM planned on having a timeskip after book 3, where the kids and dragons are all grown up.  Sometime into writing it he decided it didn't work and went back and started over, right from the end of Book 3.  End result was tons of meaningless bullshit, of people traveling place to place for stupid reasons with barely anything interesting happening to anyone.  Unsatisfying storylines, lack of drama, poor pacing.

I hope the show shuffles events around and heavily rewrites things to make the story much more interesting and cohesive after book 3.  Book 3 alone is being split into two seasons as well, because of it being so good and full of content.  Can't see them doing that for 4 or 5.  Wouldn't mind seeing both books as 1 season to be honest.
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Post by: Overdriven on January 20, 2013, 02:43:47 am

Why does Tyrion have a nose damn it!
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 21, 2013, 10:00:40 am
I hope the show shuffles events around and heavily rewrites things to make the story much more interesting and cohesive after book 3.  Book 3 alone is being split into two seasons as well, because of it being so good and full of content.  Can't see them doing that for 4 or 5.  Wouldn't mind seeing both books as 1 season to be honest.

Yeah, I am sure they will separate the seasons completely different from season 4 or 5 on. Like parts of book 4&5 being season 5, then the rest of 4&5 and a part of book 6 goes into season 7 or similar.

IMO feast for crows and dance of dragons are perfect, and some of those not seeing it yet will maybe see it after (if :P) the whole thing is finished.


I would love to see your version of the series, bilwit, maybe you could write it after you are finished shitting textures for your new game? :D
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Post by: donib on January 21, 2013, 11:51:37 am

Why does Tyrion have a nose damn it!

I hope they choose a good actor for the wildling princess     :)
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Post by: Banok on January 25, 2013, 08:39:13 pm
this guy is a dude
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

if your wondering who look at the sigil
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Post by: donib on January 25, 2013, 08:40:17 pm
When i saw the actor they used for Meera Reed i thought they used a dude.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 26, 2013, 10:27:59 am
she has a bit boyish look, which is good for the role. I bet Hinds as Mance will be awesome.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on January 26, 2013, 07:18:29 pm
more and more new characters to confuse and spread the plot lines out until it is all a jumbled mess with loose ends that will never be resolved.
just like fat george does in the books to make more money.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on January 27, 2013, 02:35:41 pm
more and more new characters to confuse and spread the plot lines out until it is all a jumbled mess with loose ends that will never be resolved.
just like fat george does in the books to make more money.

why you care about it then?
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Post by: Overdriven on February 01, 2013, 03:52:37 pm
Standard every season 'We are in Iceland and its COLD' video:

LOVE Ygritte.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 02, 2013, 06:18:19 pm
so what you can find snow anywhere.
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Post by: Oberyn on February 02, 2013, 06:49:31 pm
so what you can find snow anywhere.

That's just geographically innacurate  :D
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Post by: okiN on February 02, 2013, 06:50:55 pm
That's just geographically innacurate  :D

Your spelling is inaccurate, ZING!
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Post by: Oberyn on February 02, 2013, 06:55:58 pm
Your spelling is inaccurate, ZING!

Your face is inaccurate.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 02, 2013, 07:34:39 pm
this fucking show is making nerds mainstream I hate it.
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Post by: Oberyn on February 02, 2013, 07:43:43 pm
this fucking show is making nerds mainstream I hate it.

You prob weren't a fan of the LOTR trilogy then. Nerds already mainstream bro, sorry.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 02, 2013, 07:45:46 pm
the movies were shit. is you were a fan of the books growing up you were a nerd, but the movies made that shit mainstream.
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Post by: okiN on February 02, 2013, 08:13:55 pm
Nerds aren't mainstream, and they never will be. Mainstream co-opting aspects of nerd culture doesn't mean they want the nerds themselves.
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Post by: Smoothrich on February 04, 2013, 03:30:54 am
the movies were shit. is you were a fan of the books growing up you were a nerd, but the movies made that shit mainstream.

The movies were fantastic dude.  The books are a boring slog because Tolkein was a sperg obsessed with minutiae and language.  He was also an unrepentant racist. 

Jackson made an epic trilogy more in the vein of Lawrence of Arabia then anything.  Sweeping landscapes, giant battles, one of the best soundtracks by Howard Shore I've ever heard.


Game of Thrones series is as just of high quality.  Its not about making nerds mainstream.  Its just telling a story that is honestly pretty fucking awesome, the first three books are some of the best drama filled with epic set pieces I've read.  Much like LOTR when it was made cinematic, which improved it tenfold.  Hopefully the writers can adapt and fix many of the flaws in GRRM's later work because he  kind of sucks now.
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 04, 2013, 03:36:24 am
He was also an unrepentant racist.


Not sure I agree with you on that.


http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works


Seems like just another case of looking for patterns because you want to see them.
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Post by: Smoothrich on February 04, 2013, 03:48:59 am

Not sure I agree with you on that.


http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works


Seems like just another case of looking for patterns because you want to see them.

He was an early 20th century Englishman.  You don't think he had a Eurocentric worldview, reflected heavily in his work?  The subject matter speaks for itself.  Heroic white race of men.  Brown "eastern" people corrupt by evil with no culture that are faceless enemies.  Black people are literally subhuman savages created as a slave race to serve their masters.

I'm sure tolkeingateway.net is entirely unbiased in creating a page with 5 times more content refuting racism then exploring it, when it is a debated and contested issue still in some circles.
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on February 04, 2013, 04:03:55 am
I have a few minutes to kill, time to amuse myself...

He was an early 20th century Englishman.  You don't think he had a Eurocentric worldview, reflected heavily in his work?
Ah, lovely way to stereotype someone just because of a background and using said background as a negative connotation. I commend you for your imagination.


  The subject matter speaks for itself.
Hmm, really?


Heroic white race of men.
Heroic race as in every race in the book had some degree of corruption and was hardly infallible, and every human race had a very long history of idiots or evil men, and every race making terrible mistakes in some point in history? Oh, as in every race proving that it can fall susceptible to the Ring which symbolizes evil and temptation? Ah, how heroic that the least fallible of all the cultures were the Hobbits, of all people, and even then they have proven themselves hardly infallible and hardly heroic as a race due to falling susceptible to murder and such things (Such as the origins of Gollum).

Brown "eastern" people corrupt by evil with no culture that are faceless enemies.
Oh, so here we have you saying he had too much detail, and then now are blasting him on not giving enough detail to a mere minor plot device. I can't really support this notion because they are "faceless enemies" as simple as that is, and are hardly different from the corrupted and evil "white men" cultures mentioned in the books that tore themselves apart (Like the origin of the crypt wraiths?). Why should we pay attention to the faceless "evil" brown people and yet ignore the faceless "evil" white people? They are both minor plot points that hardly deserve more description then they already had.


Black people are literally subhuman savages created as a slave race to serve their masters.
You mean inhuman monsters that only have one common attribute with black people, and that is the color of their skin? You mean the man-made demons? Oh, I see, so since they have literally only one thing in common, then they must be direct analogies to black people. So you're saying that if a culture/race in fiction is depicted as primitive, then it must mean black people? Oh... Oh my...


I eagerly await you usual imaginative and colorful responses.
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Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 04, 2013, 04:30:54 am
If you were to say the people of Rhun or Haradwaith were generic brown exotic outsiders, I would be with you... little explored there, so far as I know (I never read the silmarillion, maybe there is stuff in there). But if you're referring to the orcs, I really think its a stretch to imagine they're meant to be a commentary on humans of African decent.
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Post by: Count_Curtis on February 04, 2013, 12:01:17 pm
I came to this thread to talk about game of thrones, and i ended up reading a smoothrich post.

can we not just ignore the guy and start talking about game of thrones again?
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 04, 2013, 08:39:22 pm
how is smoothrich allowed to have a boss n1gg3r avatar, yet people are permanently banned for n4zi allusions.

by the way Ezra Pound was a more significant writer who was much more racist than Tolkien.
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Post by: Oberyn on February 05, 2013, 08:23:11 pm
Smoothrich being a self-righteous ignorant retard again. Tolkien was more of a luddite hippy than anything else. Orcs and Sauron are supposed to represent the fires of industry. Tolkien witnessed first hand some of the most horrible parts of the industrial revolution. That Orcs were black-skinned was symbolic of smoke and dirt and pollution. Entire cities and the poorest people living in them were constantly covered with a disgusting layer of grime at the time. The inspiration for Isengard and Baraddur or however the fuck you spell it were both inspired by industrial smokestacks near where he lived. Orcs even speak like british hooligans in the book. It's news to me that they were supposed to represent subsaharan Africans.
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Post by: Angantyr on February 06, 2013, 03:07:47 am
(I never read the silmarillion, maybe there is stuff in there)
You should, best fantasy ever put to paper in my opinion.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on February 06, 2013, 06:01:42 pm
some people interpret the Lord of the Rings as like WWII Europe, with Sauron representing h1tl3r, creating the Orc/Master race using eugenics and the heroes have to cross the Alps/Misty Mountains, etc. The elves are like Switzerland, staying neutral or France rolling over  for the naz1s.
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Post by: Overdriven on February 12, 2013, 11:56:57 am
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Post by: Overdriven on February 14, 2013, 06:50:17 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on February 23, 2013, 07:01:40 am
Official Official trailer came out last night:


Glad they did the dragon flying around the boat. I thought they'd skip that due to costs but shows them off quite nicely.
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Post by: Count_Curtis on February 23, 2013, 11:09:03 am
WOO. i read all the books between the last season and this one because i couldn't wait for it to release, but it actually made it worse. now i want to see it more than i already did, just because i know what awesome shit i'm going to see.

No spoilers, but im going to declare it. if both parts of the third book are covered in this season, it will be THE best season.

REAL spoiler
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Post by: Smoothrich on February 23, 2013, 03:18:55 pm
No spoilers, but im going to declare it. if both parts of the third book are covered in this season, it will be THE best season.

The third book will be split into the next two seasons.  They considered it far too big and complicated (the word more likely is, expensive) to condense into one season.  That just makes me more excited, if anything.  More time for the characters and scenes to breathe before shit gets real.
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Post by: Commodore_Axephante on February 23, 2013, 05:45:58 pm
The third book will be split into the next two seasons.  They considered it far too big and complicated (the word more likely is, expensive) to condense into one season.  That just makes me more excited, if anything.  More time for the characters and scenes to breathe before shit gets real.

In the past, as a cost control measure, they've simply skipped things. So, taking more time to tell the story (and thus actually telling more of it) can only be a good thing.
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Post by: Count_Curtis on March 03, 2013, 04:08:01 am
I dont know if this is yet common knowledge. but here is something i thought was ****ing hilarious.

The guy that plays Theon Greyjoy is Alfie Allen, who i found out to actually be the brother of the singer Lily allen
And then i remembered this song from a while ago
this song is about theon greyjoy being a lazy twat. one of the most mindblowing discoveries i have ever made
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Post by: Overdriven on March 03, 2013, 07:11:31 am
Haha yup and they are the kids of Keith Allen who is also quite a famous http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Allen_(actor) .
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Post by: Overdriven on March 18, 2013, 06:41:37 pm
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Post by: Leesin on March 18, 2013, 07:36:40 pm
Got jizz on my keyboard, monitor, legs, chest and face.
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Post by: Canuck on March 18, 2013, 10:05:03 pm
The third book has definitely been my favourite so far. Assuming they're going to get it right, I'm very excited for this season!
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Post by: Overdriven on March 21, 2013, 07:20:44 am
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Post by: Overdriven on March 21, 2013, 07:35:47 am
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Post by: Overdriven on March 21, 2013, 06:46:48 pm
Not entirely sure why they made this one but they are churning out vids atm:

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Post by: Count_Curtis on March 21, 2013, 09:28:42 pm
If i had sound right now, i still dont know if i'd be able to make any sense out of why there is an african american basketball player sitting on the iron throne
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on March 21, 2013, 09:59:14 pm
Who is that tortured guy on the cross? Don't remember that from the books.
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Post by: Joseph Porta on March 22, 2013, 12:26:34 am
Who is that tortured guy on the cross? Don't remember that from the books.
Christianity's propoganda
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Post by: Count_Curtis on March 22, 2013, 02:39:07 am
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Post by: Voso on March 22, 2013, 03:03:13 am
Who is that tortured guy on the cross? Don't remember that from the books.


It rhymes with freak.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on March 22, 2013, 03:07:10 pm
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 22, 2013, 03:36:47 pm
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.

well, there is much told in retrospective in the dance with dragons.
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on March 22, 2013, 03:49:05 pm
And making the actor leave the show for a few years might be unfeasible.
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Post by: Smoothrich on March 22, 2013, 06:55:19 pm
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.

The bastard is a major character right off the bat, as far as I know.
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Post by: Voso on March 26, 2013, 12:42:37 am
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.

The show has already introduced some things earlier than they should've been and somethings that should've been introduced still haven't. They have already acknowledged this, it isn't any major change though, as long as everything gets to the same place in the end.
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Post by: Sagar on March 27, 2013, 12:27:04 pm
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Post by: Overdriven on March 29, 2013, 03:33:12 pm
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Post by: bilwit on March 30, 2013, 06:03:55 am
New trailer (I think): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=hm_3p_vi2#lb-vi227386905

Seems like they're changing Robb's plan in the books from attacking Moat Cailin to Casterly Rock judging by the comments he makes here. I hope they at least set it up as creative and epic as they did in the books with Moat Cailin..
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Post by: Bjarky on March 31, 2013, 04:29:53 pm
Ah looking forward to today when its out   :D
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Post by: Weren on April 01, 2013, 01:59:14 pm
Noes, Selmy is not the epic staffmaster he was supposed to be.  :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Ninja_Khorin on April 01, 2013, 02:56:34 pm
I was disappoint aswell.
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Post by: Tibe on April 01, 2013, 05:15:26 pm
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 01, 2013, 06:39:25 pm
very boring episode. was reminded to check out sibel kekilli's early films which are very satisfying.
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Post by: Banok on April 01, 2013, 08:22:38 pm
I enjoyed watching, probably wasn't worth staying up for. not sure if people are going to like this series.
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Post by: the real god emperor on April 01, 2013, 08:43:53 pm
very boring episode. was reminded to check out sibel kekilli's early films which are very satisfying.

Keep it up



Also episode was good enough for starting a new season, i think we will enjoy this season :D
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 02, 2013, 12:08:50 am
she takes it up the butt in a lot of german porn films.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Count_Curtis on April 02, 2013, 04:43:43 am
It was the first episode. its just setting up the rest of it.

The first part of the third book (Which is this series) is much shorter than the last 2 books, so it WILL be slower with more detail like this, i should think
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Post by: Overdriven on April 02, 2013, 06:27:49 am
Still haven't watched it. Been two days and not a single good torrent out yet and my internet is to slow in india to stream it  :(
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Post by: Leesin on April 02, 2013, 08:26:11 am
Still haven't watched it. Been two days and not a single good torrent out yet and my internet is to slow in india to stream it  :(

http://eztv.it/ep/43482/game-of-thrones-s03e01-hdtv-x264-2hd/

This is a link to the smallest file size torrent, it's good, as I downloaded this exact one an hour after it aired in the USA. You can find bigger probably better quality torrents on the same website but I assumed if your internet sucks balls in india you might not want to wait longer lol.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 02, 2013, 08:30:17 am
Cheers...now you should probably edit your post :P
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Post by: Count_Curtis on April 02, 2013, 09:44:06 am
Im sure chadz loves torrents as well
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 02, 2013, 10:07:56 am
Well it is the most torrented show now  :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 03, 2013, 07:38:28 am
http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/02/technology/game-of-thrones-piracy/index.html?sr=fb040213gameofthrones8p

My justification is that I always buy the blu-rays. At least HBO don't seem to fazed by the piracy and they understand it's because of the need for cable/other subscription that causes it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 03, 2013, 02:09:19 pm
mh, overall a bit disappointed as well. The whole fist of the first men battle was a joke and I wonder how any non-reader could understand what happened. Ravens, what ravens?
And the reasoning for Jons turncloak, "fight for the living" or what was that shit, really not convincing IMO. I enjoyed the scene with Tyrion and Tywin as well as the royal dinner very much. And I understand they couldn't possibly hide the identity of Barristan Selmy, but it is overall a shame they reveal so much upfront like Littlefingers or Margerys intentions.
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Post by: Count_Curtis on April 03, 2013, 02:50:57 pm
Yeah the barristan selmy bit was a little strange, i think it'l be a few episodes till the part where it would have done it in the books. but as you said, no way to hide his identity if he's actually on screen. i think the unsullied definitely look as badass as described in the books though, i'm really happy with them

Also 
Spoiler for next episode
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Post by: Overdriven on April 03, 2013, 02:51:30 pm
Yeah the fist battle really wasn't exactly explained but maybe if you watch end of season 2/season 3 beginning together then it might make sense. Can understand them speeding things up a bit though, especially as they are already having to split the third book into two series.

Yeah I was happy with the unsullied. I was worrying that they wouldn't really show how unfeeling they were...then the nipple incident occurred.
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Post by: Rhygar666 on April 03, 2013, 03:18:53 pm
the unsullied looked stupid, they couldnt even stand in a line right, and theyre supposed to be elite, maybe better actors next time.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on April 06, 2013, 02:27:17 am
New trailer (I think): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=hm_3p_vi2#lb-vi227386905

Seems like they're changing Robb's plan in the books from attacking Moat Cailin to Casterly Rock judging by the comments he makes here. I hope they at least set it up as creative and epic as they did in the books with Moat Cailin..

Not sure if you said that wrong or not but if you didn't you should probably put a spoiler on that, cause if they did it would mean the Lannisters would have taken Moat Cailin which is very hard to believe. And they didn't mention that the Ironborns did it either.
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Post by: SeQuel on April 07, 2013, 09:43:08 pm
I liked the episode.....>.>

It was the first one it has to set up a bunch of shit for later episodes so it's obviously not gonna be super great. The meeting between Tyrion and Tywin was amazing.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 08, 2013, 04:22:06 pm
Wowza the knife under the nail. Just the beginning.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 08, 2013, 04:52:11 pm
I liked this episode very much, even if it still was only like second part of introduction into the season. Poor Theon. what was that machine doing on his foot, drilling or squashing?
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Post by: Overdriven on April 08, 2013, 10:43:24 pm
Judging by the blood, drilling.
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Post by: SeQuel on April 12, 2013, 07:18:27 am
I loved the scenes with Jamie and Brie. Also the introduction to Jogen with Bran's dire wolf was awesome.
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Post by: Jon Agony on April 12, 2013, 12:24:05 pm
So i met a guy on DTV today named Jaime_The_Kingslayer! And he was rushed by bots and i said, "Jaime, need a... HAND"?!

AHAHAHHHAHAHAH
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Post by: Count_Curtis on April 13, 2013, 11:27:01 pm
The bastards of bolton
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(You probably wont get this)
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Post by: Jon Agony on April 14, 2013, 01:12:22 am
The bastards of bolton
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(You probably wont get this)


(If you have not read the books) But i still don't get it cause there is no police in a Song of Fire and Ice and no soccer either :/ Tricky one!
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Post by: Kafein on April 14, 2013, 02:27:32 am
Someone bought me an XXL GOT T-shirt, and I fit in a M. FML
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Post by: Gurnisson on April 14, 2013, 02:35:07 am
Someone bought me an XXL GOT T-shirt, and I fit in a M. FML

Time to start eating
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 14, 2013, 08:04:07 am
The bastards of bolton
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(You probably wont get this)

football hooligans from bolton?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bilwit on April 15, 2013, 10:51:40 am
Retarded how they changed the significance of Edmund's victory for really no reason. That was a pretty crucial thing in the book (him driving the Lannister army back to King's Landing.. reinforcing and sealing Stannis's defeat there) that was the difference between total Lannister defeat and control. In the episode they were just like "oh well we could have killed The Mountain."
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Post by: Overdriven on April 15, 2013, 05:19:36 pm
Was hoping for a girlier shriek from Jaime...

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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 15, 2013, 06:09:06 pm
they are changing shit all over the place.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 15, 2013, 06:31:43 pm
No it's the really slimey evil bugger who captures Jaime in the books and he does it just for the hell of it. Unless I've remembered that wrong. Catelyn is at river run for most of book 3 until the certain event we are all anticipating.

Just wiki'd it. It's Hoat, Bolton's man who orders it which means the shows on track there.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2013, 06:35:39 pm
yeah, they change more and more stuff, but I don't mind and it was to be expected. The books are better anyway, but I still enjoy the show a great deal and like many parts about it.
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Post by: Tot. on April 15, 2013, 06:53:27 pm
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene or was it just in my version?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2013, 06:55:55 pm
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene off or was it just in my version?

totally destroyed the jaime scene for me :( was a modern version of some song in the books
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Post by: Overdriven on April 15, 2013, 06:57:47 pm
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene off or was it just in my version?

Yeah it's a rendition from one of the songs from the book. Totally killed it for me, I shut of the credits as soon as that song kicked in so as not to ruin it.
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Post by: Tibe on April 15, 2013, 06:58:59 pm
As a guy who hasnt read the books, I found the buttrapescene a little too much as an idea. I suppose its what "men of the sea" do....
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Post by: Overdriven on April 15, 2013, 07:01:45 pm
Actually on that note (kind of) forgot to say I loved Pod's scene  :)
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2013, 07:09:53 pm
As a guy who hasnt read the books, I found the buttrapescene a little too much as an idea. I suppose its what "men of the sea" do....

creation of the show...
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 15, 2013, 07:10:03 pm
the almost buttrape scene was cool. anyone watch Spartacus?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on April 15, 2013, 07:44:28 pm
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene or was it just in my version?

I actually looked it up now since it seemed unreal to be intentional and found this gem (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/14/thrones-jaime-hand/).

 “To really hammer home the shock of that moment you need something unexpected. There’s no version of a traditional score that would keep you as off balance as we wanted that scene to leaving you feeling.”

“I can’t imagine having that conversation with Ramin [Djawadi] our composer — ‘Now we need the Jaime-gets-his-hand-chopped-off music,’” adds Benioff. who made his directorial debut with this episode. “What we always loved in An American Werewolf in London, we see our hero shot and killed and then his lover runs to embrace his dead body — it’s a sad ending — but then we cut to black and it’s [the bouncy 1961 Marcell's hit] ‘Blue Moon.’ And that jarring juxtaposition was fantastic.”


 :lol:

I hope this Benioff makes a remastered version of season one for DVDs. Then we would have a proper cowboy song after Eddard's beheading, that would be even more artsy than this, you know, American Werewolf and shit.

Arya: Let me go!
Yoren: Don't look!
*crowd cheering and shouting, executioner puts on the mask*
Arya: Nooo! Noooooo!
Yoren: Shut your mouth! Look at me! Look at me!!!
*everything quiets down, Eddard looks at the crowd*
*SHLOMP!*
fade to black with a guitar theme tuning in
...

♫ I'm back in the saddle again
Out where a friend is a friend
Where the longhorn cattle feed
On the lowly gypsum weed
Back in the saddle again...
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Post by: Sagar on April 16, 2013, 10:08:05 am
Yea transition from  that tense scene with Jaime was really unexpected, but I guess they been the intention.

Anyway that was The Bear and the Maiden Fair from the book, but version from The Hold Steady.
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Also a version of the Irish Moutarde is good.
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Post by: Beauchamp on April 16, 2013, 10:38:35 am
just started watching SIII and i still wonder when is the fat guy in the north going to die?
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Post by: Vibe on April 16, 2013, 10:46:53 am
just started watching SIII and i still wonder when is the fat guy in the north going to die?

the annoying never die, just like Carl in The Walking Dead, it's what keeps the rage flame burning and people watchin'
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 16, 2013, 10:58:46 am
So anyone else think the guy who 'helps' Theon is the Bastard? Would make sense as to why the torturer chasing him says 'you little bastard' before receiving an arrow the face. Guess they are just giving Alfie Allen something to do this season. Same with Rob getting married in the second season as he isn't a POV character in the books.
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Post by: Beauchamp on April 16, 2013, 11:32:38 am
the annoying never die, just like Carl in The Walking Dead, it's what keeps the rage flame burning and people watchin'

at least the other fatty just got left behind in a kitchen, thats cool! but i'd rather see him dead, that way he wouldn't be able to return to the series later on.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 16, 2013, 12:33:33 pm
Reminds me that I liked it very much how Arya just shortly asks the Hound if he remembers the place and then it is left unexplained what she meant.
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Post by: Casimir on April 16, 2013, 03:12:54 pm
fucking hotpie, i hate him and everything he represents
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 16, 2013, 07:25:11 pm
Reminds me that I liked it very much how Arya just shortly asks the Hound if he remembers the place and then it is left unexplained what she meant.
what did it mean? is it the place where catelyn stark got her bannerdudes to rally around her or some shit?
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Post by: Turboflex on April 16, 2013, 07:58:19 pm
fucking hotpie, i hate him and everything he represents

someone most of the fans can relate to?
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Post by: Overdriven on April 16, 2013, 09:20:17 pm
what did it mean? is it the place where catelyn stark got her bannerdudes to rally around her or some shit?

No it's the inn they stopped at on the Kings Road to Kings Landing in the first season. Where the butcher's boy (by the hound) and Sansa's wolf were killed.
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Post by: Rumblood on April 16, 2013, 09:36:52 pm
Yeah it's a rendition from one of the songs from the book. Totally killed it for me, I shut of the credits as soon as that song kicked in so as not to ruin it.

That song was sung earlier in the show by the guys marching along in its appropriate style. I thought it was pretty cool to hear it in one style, and then hear it in a more modern one, though it was a bit Knight's Tale'ish.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on April 16, 2013, 11:10:29 pm
It was completely immersion breaking, I'd expect something that low and without understanding of composition from maybe shows like Spartacus, which are generally a pocorn flick with gore and tits already so one more country track in the end doesn't change a thing. In GoT, which I consider more to be Rome-class (though it has a terrible nosedive lately), it's like a big random splash of red paint on a realistic painting.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Count_Curtis on April 17, 2013, 09:25:33 am
My favourite charectors seem to be the useless fat ones

i think thats trying to tell me something
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on April 17, 2013, 09:33:15 am
but i'd rather see him dead, that way he wouldn't be able to return to the series later on.

Oh beauchamp, you are up to a surprise...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on April 17, 2013, 01:04:01 pm
So i met a guy on DTV today named Jaime_The_Kingslayer! And he was rushed by bots and i said, "Jaime, need a... HAND"?!

AHAHAHHHAHAHAH


Those who never read the books and only watched the show... i think you understand this now  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on April 17, 2013, 02:44:45 pm
So anyone else think the guy who 'helps' Theon is the Bastard? Would make sense as to why the torturer chasing him says 'you little bastard' before receiving an arrow the face. Guess they are just giving Alfie Allen something to do this season. Same with Rob getting married in the second season as he isn't a POV character in the books.

You know what's weird? The way the Bastard is portrayed so far is almost exactly how I pictured...Theon, from the book descriptions. What really cinched it for me is when he wtfpwned those 4-5 dudes with a bow and "rescues" Theon. Book Theon is described repeatedly as an amazing archer, something that is never explored in the TV show. His hair colour and the arrogant little smirk right before he point blank shoots the last guy, also very book Theon. They really made TV show Theon even more pathetic than the book version, especially having his men betray him and escape during the sack of Winterfell.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 17, 2013, 04:02:19 pm
I think Theon on the TV show is very similar to how I imagined him in the book (both looks and how pathetic he is). 

Did anyone else laugh out loud when Craster was talking about how Sam is a "walking feast"?  I cracked up good there

Also, I didn't like the bear and the maiden fair "contemporary" version at the end of the show, but I honestly didn't mind it either, it didn't "kill" the immersion for me.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gurnisson on April 17, 2013, 05:33:28 pm
You know what's weird? The way the Bastard is portrayed so far is almost exactly how I pictured...Theon, from the book descriptions. What really cinched it for me is when he wtfpwned those 4-5 dudes with a bow and "rescues" Theon. Book Theon is described repeatedly as an amazing archer, something that is never explored in the TV show. His hair colour and the arrogant little smirk right before he point blank shoots the last guy, also very book Theon. They really made TV show Theon even more pathetic than the book version, especially having his men betray him and escape during the sack of Winterfell.

In the show (1st season, the one I remember the most of) he brags about how good he's at archery, shooting down ravens, see him shoot bulls-eye all the time and how he saves Bran with a perfect shot. He's not identical in the show as in the books though, unfortunately!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 17, 2013, 07:46:57 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 18, 2013, 06:59:48 am
Wikipedia
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episode 3 synopsis
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Knew it.

You know what's weird? The way the Bastard is portrayed so far is almost exactly how I pictured...Theon, from the book descriptions. What really cinched it for me is when he wtfpwned those 4-5 dudes with a bow and "rescues" Theon. Book Theon is described repeatedly as an amazing archer, something that is never explored in the TV show. His hair colour and the arrogant little smirk right before he point blank shoots the last guy, also very book Theon. They really made TV show Theon even more pathetic than the book version, especially having his men betray him and escape during the sack of Winterfell.

I suppose. Although I think after I got to the Reek chapters I find it hard to remember what Theon was exactly like before! I certainly like both portrayals though. I think in the TV series they are really pushing forward the patheticness to make you feel more sorry for him off the bat rather than hate him. In the books I didn't really begin to feel sorry for Theon until he was a broken shivering wreck.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Count_Curtis on April 18, 2013, 08:15:34 pm
Good job they got a welsh to be ramsay boton. makes him that bit more bastardy
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bjarky on April 22, 2013, 07:00:27 am
that ep04  <3
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Berserkadin on April 22, 2013, 10:49:39 am
Ah, epic moment on the end of e04. Shits about to hit the fan.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on April 22, 2013, 01:15:43 pm
You know when you are on a roller coaster and when you are really close to flying down? That's what i felt in the ending. Screaming and crying. Heck i even had an orgasm!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 22, 2013, 01:40:43 pm
Damn making me wish my torrent would go faster. It tops at 25 kb/s  :lol: Shitty India internet.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on April 22, 2013, 02:20:55 pm
Damn making me wish my torrent would go faster. It tops at 25 kb/s  :lol: Shitty India internet.


Google project free tv :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 22, 2013, 09:54:12 pm
sweet! Praise that guy creating the languages, epic moment when danaerys starts speaking valyrian. holy shit that gave me the goosebumbs!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on April 22, 2013, 11:59:08 pm
Yeah that was a moment that I had been anticipating for a while, it is a great moment in the books as well.
Also, I am loving the character of Margaery, I do not recall her being so great in the books. Yet again, I have not read this one since a couple of years ago, and I have forgotten a lot of things (like Craster's fight, I believed Mormont would die much later).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on April 23, 2013, 07:43:19 am
Watched it before I went to work, fucking awesome episode, had me thinking about it during my shift and can't wait to see the next episode. Fucking lol'd at Theon getting owned.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on April 23, 2013, 07:47:52 am
sweet! Praise that guy creating the languages, epic moment when danaerys starts speaking valyrian. holy shit that gave me the goosebumbs!

It was going great, then they rushed the dialogue with the UnSullied. it should have been more of a moment. If they were short on time, they should have cut some of the boring crap they toss in every episode. The first two episodes were rather forgettable. My wife watches them with me and completely forgot what happened in the 2nd episode a few days later (because not much happened). At least it is picking up steam now. The first couple of seasons were pretty much a great watch every show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on April 23, 2013, 08:16:30 am
Pretty good EP, finally shit is starting to hit the fan
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 23, 2013, 09:09:35 am
Yeah that was a moment that I had been anticipating for a while, it is a great moment in the books as well.
Also, I am loving the character of Margaery, I do not recall her being so great in the books. Yet again, I have not read this one since a couple of years ago, and I have forgotten a lot of things (like Craster's fight, I believed Mormont would die much later).

I love Margaery as well. She's very clever. In the books it does bring all this up but only in passing comments. It never elaborates on it but it does say the populace of Kings Landing love her and that she knew how to approach Joffrey. I just loving seeing Cersei getting her position usurped but in the books that only really happens towards the last one.

That was a good episode. Watched it twice now. I'm looking forward to the fight with the Hound. Always felt kind of sorry for the guy in the books. Should be awesome though. And yeah when Daenerys starts speaking in valryian it is pretty cool. I imagine that's the CGI dragon budget done for the season though  :lol:

I also liked Vary's little sorcerer scene with Tyrion. He has a great way of making a point. The speech about his influence building slowly over years and then hitting home the point by opening the box. Thought that was good writing and don't remember it from the books.

Mormont dying does happen at Craster's. But I think the reason this seems earlier is because in the books it focuses a lot more on Sam struggling to get back and keep up with the group and becoming Sam the 'Slayer'. What I'm curious about is when they are going to introduce that scene. Because it happens when they are struggling to get back to Craster's. They've skipped forward a whole lot on that story and now Sam will be running with Gilly.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 23, 2013, 01:52:58 pm
It was going great, then they rushed the dialogue with the UnSullied. it should have been more of a moment. If they were short on time, they should have cut some of the boring crap they toss in every episode. The first two episodes were rather forgettable. My wife watches them with me and completely forgot what happened in the 2nd episode a few days later (because not much happened). At least it is picking up steam now. The first couple of seasons were pretty much a great watch every show.

couldn't disagree more. this episode would be nothing if they hadn't set it up all carefully and enrich characters.

It's the same with the books. People say Storm of swords was great but then it got crap. Wait till it's finished, the next books will be so epic with everything set up in book 4 and 5. And it can only be great because of the careful preparation.

as for the scene I thought it was well-timed. The only thing i would have hoped for was a bit extended scenery how they freed the whole city and killed all the masters,  probably would have been too expensive.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on April 23, 2013, 05:30:25 pm
couldn't disagree more. this episode would be nothing if they hadn't set it up all carefully and enrich characters.

It's the same with the books. People say Storm of swords was great but then it got crap. Wait till it's finished, the next books will be so epic with everything set up in book 4 and 5. And it can only be great because of the careful preparation.

as for the scene I thought it was well-timed. The only thing i would have hoped for was a bit extended scenery how they freed the whole city and killed all the masters,  probably would have been too expensive.

You've got to be kidding me. "You're not slaves anymore, you're free! Who wants to fight for me?" *Thump thump*

More inspirational dramatic speech was demanded for that scene. They could have cut 15 seconds from some other far less important non-turning point from either of the first 2 episodes and put it into the time alloted for that one  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 23, 2013, 06:24:40 pm
this is when the story really starts falling apart.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 29, 2013, 02:16:13 pm
Woop naked Ygritte finally!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on April 29, 2013, 03:05:35 pm
Bathtub scene with Brienne and Jaime was fucking good. Favorite scene of the last episode. It was practically verbatim translation of the book scene. Queen of Thorns has been expanded a lot compared to how often she appears in the books, but I gotta be honest fucking love her. The actress is perfect for the character.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Lars on April 29, 2013, 06:43:43 pm
Ah that fire guy...

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on April 29, 2013, 07:01:06 pm
Bathtub scene with Brienne and Jaime was fucking good. Favorite scene of the last episode. It was practically verbatim translation of the book scene. Queen of Thorns has been expanded a lot compared to how often she appears in the books, but I gotta be honest fucking love her. The actress is perfect for the character.

Yeah the Queen of Thorns is almost exactly as I imagined her. Definitely one of the best parts of this series. Also love Tywin. Can never get enough of that guy. Utterly ruthless, an out right bastard but would make a brilliant King.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on April 29, 2013, 07:04:48 pm
Nice episode, I always suffer to see the people make the mistakes that I know are going to come (and seem so obvious from outside), also got to love the look on the schemers when they get outmanoeuvred. Especially Cercei, she should not be trying to play the game with the people who actually know how to...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on April 29, 2013, 07:35:09 pm
yeah the tub scene was great. Seems like the best scenes/dialogue are the ones straight from the book, possibly bias I guess.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 29, 2013, 07:40:08 pm
Dr4g0nz vs z0mb13z

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on April 29, 2013, 09:01:15 pm
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on April 29, 2013, 09:10:26 pm
its hbo brah.

you watch the Wire?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on April 29, 2013, 09:15:19 pm
Watched first season and decided that's enough. And I had to watch it with eng subs on, half of the time couldn't understand that slavesprache dialect they use.

What does it have to do with pointless gay scenes though?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on April 29, 2013, 10:02:24 pm
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?
Pointless? Did you miss the part about the lover being a spy? That scene allowed some information to transfer that is changing everybody's plans.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on April 29, 2013, 10:12:19 pm
Loved Ser Jorah and Ser Barristan going back and forth, I'm sure those two will clash heads soon enough :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Smoothrich on April 29, 2013, 10:21:41 pm
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?

Sounds like you probably get shameful boners at them.  Its okay bro, whenever you are ready to come out we will be proud.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Berserkadin on April 29, 2013, 11:23:47 pm
Yeah the Queen of Thorns is almost exactly as I imagined her. Definitely one of the best parts of this series. Also love Tywin. Can never get enough of that guy. Utterly ruthless, an out right bastard but would make a brilliant King.
Tywin is a boss, that guy got authority.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Beauchamp on April 30, 2013, 02:29:04 am
this series starts to have more story lines than episodes.

Tot> in every movie there has to be a black guy, homo and a left-hander (Jamie for now ^^)...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on April 30, 2013, 11:28:04 am
Tot is just mad because his father walked in during the gay scene, now his father is disappoint.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gurnisson on April 30, 2013, 02:28:22 pm
Watched first season and decided that's enough.

Watch the rest. Definitely worth it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 30, 2013, 04:47:41 pm
Tot, the purpose of a gay scene is because there's multiple gay people in the book, I'm not gay at all (far side of the Kinsey scale) but it doesn't bother me with any sort of gay scenes. 

If gay scenes bother you, you probably should be honest with yourself about your sexuality. 

Pro Tip:  You're gay
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on April 30, 2013, 04:57:19 pm
Are you saying that you cant be straight and not like watching gay scenes?

Cos tbh bro, that's kinda dumb...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 30, 2013, 05:08:20 pm
There's lots of things that I don't like but they don't bother me enough to get upset about seeing it (especially in fiction).  If a gay scene is enough to make you quit watching game of thrones (and get as upset as tot seems to be about it) then there's probably more at play than just "not liking it".

And if it bothers you enough to get upset about it, then you're probably not as straight as you think.

This was his words:

Quote
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?

That's what I'm referring to, I'm not referring to whether someone likes or dislikes gay scenes (I never said I liked or disliked them, I said they didn't bother me).  He apparently thinks that if you're straight, you're as disgusted with the gay scenes as he is, and that's just simply not true for everyone.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 30, 2013, 07:41:26 pm
Watch the rest. Definitely worth it.

I don't think he will like it anymore if doesn't so far. Ok, i was skeptical too the first time I watched  the first 4 episode, like: "what is it all about?". But after finishing the first season you have realize how brilliant it is. Or not.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on April 30, 2013, 08:08:07 pm
Tot never had the chance to realize how awesome it was, considering he spent the whole first season just fapping and not actually listening.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Latrinenkobold on April 30, 2013, 08:19:04 pm
Tot never had the chance to realize how awesome it was, considering he spent the whole first season just fapping and not actually listening.
hu what´s that wire series about ? Now im interested :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 30, 2013, 08:21:38 pm
hu what´s that wire series about ? Now im interested :D

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/

Just finished watching episode 5...those 5 seconds of two guys kissing in a dimly lit room really disgusted you that much tot?  Haha...

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on May 01, 2013, 03:48:44 am
What I wrote is that I'm annoyed by crude implementation of elements in tv shows that were supposed to tell the viewer 'we're that hardcore, man!', ie. constant explicit nudity, those elements serve no purpose to the story. Now it seems having people of same sex making out joined that category.

You two retards apparently are unable to talk about it without implying that the person who brought the subject is a bundle of sticks (great logic here), so maybe grow up first and we might come back to it later.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 01, 2013, 04:04:42 am
Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?

I marked the crucial part of your post for you, tot.

you're welcome.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on May 01, 2013, 04:18:11 am
What about that part? Just look up the forums and check out the threads where people are unhappy about just having gay scenes in their favorite show in general. Risky move to include touchy subject like this, then again I guess that's what sells as they keep going with it even though it upsets part of their audience, even if that part are christards that get offended by anything.

Same case with dead children as for last episode, but this at least has some narrative value.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on May 01, 2013, 04:38:42 am
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/

Just finished watching episode 5...those 5 seconds of two guys kissing in a dimly lit room really disgusted you that much tot?  Haha...
If that's the scene with Omar and that redhaired guy that shit was pretty fucking hot.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on May 01, 2013, 04:54:43 am
What about that part? Just look up the forums and check out the threads where people are unhappy about just having gay scenes in their favorite show in general. Risky move to include touchy subject like this, then again I guess that's what sells as they keep going with it even though it upsets part of their audience, even if that part are christards that get offended by anything.

Same case with dead children as for last episode, but this at least has some narrative value.

Mate, you're making out half of the episode was some massive my old friend gangbang, it wasn't, if it was I wouldn't watch it either. It was 5 seconds of my old friend on my old friend action and if that makes you decide the show sucks for that sole reason then I'm inclined to think you're not too comfortable with your own sexuality.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tears of Destiny on May 01, 2013, 05:03:10 am
You two retards apparently are unable to talk about it without implying that the person who brought the subject is a bundle of sticks (great logic here), so maybe grow up first and we might come back to it later.


With all due respect, this is coming from the person who is downvoting like crazy with rampant name-calling?


It's an online forum about internet horsies discussing an off-topic show which is also make-believe... Y'all need to chill. It's a silly show, some people like it, some don't, that is all there is to it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 01, 2013, 05:21:08 am
Tbf, the way Renly and Loras's sexuality in the show is portrayed is waaaaay different from the books. In the books it was more a persitent rumour and everyone knew they were gay as fuck, but they were still macho dudebros who embodied the most respected aspects of masculinity . This parody video gets it 100 percent right. http://youtu.be/dWgCMIg-E9Y from 1:26 to 2:13. It's like they had to make them super flamboyantly gay because...I dunno, it's somehow more acceptable?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 01, 2013, 05:29:26 am
remember in the Sopranos Vito Spatafore? HBO shows have had gays for a long time.
Spartacus and Game of Thrones take it to a new level of onscreen buttsex
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 01, 2013, 10:25:54 am
What I wrote is that I'm annoyed by crude implementation of elements in tv shows that were supposed to tell the viewer 'we're that hardcore, man!', ie. constant explicit nudity, those elements serve no purpose to the story. Now it seems having people of same sex making out joined that category.

You two retards apparently are unable to talk about it without implying that the person who brought the subject is a bundle of sticks (great logic here), so maybe grow up first and we might come back to it later.

It's in the book.

Well maybe not the gayness...that was pretty much made up in terms of open scenes. But most of the other naked/explicit scenes are. Like in the very first episode of GoT Viserys pretty much touching up Daenarys when she gets out of the bath. In the book.

Tbf, the way Renly and Loras's sexuality in the show is portrayed is waaaaay different from the books. In the books it was more a persitent rumour and everyone knew they were gay as fuck, but they were still macho dudebros who embodied the most respected aspects of masculinity . This parody video gets it 100 percent right. http://youtu.be/dWgCMIg-E9Y from 1:26 to 2:13. It's like they had to make them super flamboyantly gay because...I dunno, it's somehow more acceptable?

That's the one thing I was disappointed about with Renly. In the book he's portrayed as a younger, but almost exact replica of Robert. Stannis is the odd one out. But in the TV show he's depicted as a fairly weak, though likeable, full on gay guy.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on May 01, 2013, 05:18:28 pm
Mate, you're making out half of the episode was some massive my old friend gangbang, it wasn't, if it was I wouldn't watch it either. It was 5 seconds of my old friend on my old friend action and if that makes you decide the show sucks for that sole reason then I'm inclined to think you're not too comfortable with your own sexuality.

Apparently you're just an idiot who can't read.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 01, 2013, 06:04:02 pm
tot  :rolleyes:

btw what I found very silly were the fetus jars in queen selyses chamber. What the fuck? I mean now everyone knows she is crazy but there had to me a more subtle way to show it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 01, 2013, 06:20:51 pm
at least its not like Spartacus where they show a nice lesbian threesome and then cut to a homo buttsex rightaway.
leaves a person confused.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on May 01, 2013, 08:52:47 pm
Apparently you're just an idiot who can't read.

Nothing wrong with batting for the other team mate, embrace your true sexuality.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 06, 2013, 06:44:13 pm
Nobody talking about Sunday's episode?

Nothing really remarkable for me, looks like Episode 7 should be a good one, also no mention of Dany in Ep 6
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on May 06, 2013, 07:46:14 pm
My wife was miffed about the two re-writes. She just read the books and so remembers how things went. I just remember the general flow of events, but when she pointed it out, I was like "Oh yeah, that didn't happen in the books did it?"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 06, 2013, 07:46:24 pm
Nobody talking about Sunday's episode?

For many (like me) it's Monday's episode. Ask me in 1 hour again.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 06, 2013, 07:52:34 pm
One of the books has no dragon shit I think. He split the story so books 3 and 4 happen simultaneously.
unfortunately the plot starts to unravel more and more.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 06, 2013, 10:36:13 pm
Didn't liked it too much, especially that scene with littlefinger talking about chaos ladders while they show all the tragic stuff. Reminded me of grey's anatomy or something.
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Post by: Vibe on May 07, 2013, 09:21:40 am
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.

Also, y u kill hooker with nice tits
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Post by: Bjarky on May 07, 2013, 10:30:10 am
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.
well the ending of ep04 gave me a nice one  :shock:
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 07, 2013, 12:36:56 pm
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.

Also, y u kill hooker with nice tits

Have you read the books?  Especially the book this season (and the next) is based on?  Cuz lol

ESPECIALLY next season.  The entire second half of Storm of Swords is balls2theWall
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Post by: Jon Agony on May 07, 2013, 01:43:54 pm
I liked Petyrs speech and so but i didn't like was the scene when you saw Joffrey and Ros hanging there with around 7 bolts. He is fucking kinky
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 07, 2013, 04:26:44 pm
I don't think it's about being kinky.  They thought that she was Tyrion's whore, and Joffrey is a sadistic fuck who also happens to hate his uncle Tyrion.  So that's why he would have killed her (IMO), and I can't recall how she betrayed Petyr (Littlefinger) but he eludes to it in his talk with Varys
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Post by: Casimir on May 07, 2013, 04:30:37 pm
she talks to varys?
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Post by: Freland on May 07, 2013, 07:35:58 pm
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.

Also, y u kill hooker with nice tits
Actually the third book has so many orgasms they needed to split it in two seasons  :wink:
And I think we already had some vital moments in this season
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But yeah you are right they have the same pattern in every season.
Episode 1-3 introduce new characters or bring back memories about the returning characters / story lines
Episode 4-8 build up tension with some decisive moments here and there
Episode 9 let all hell break loose (Ned Stark's execution, Blackwater)
Episode 10 build up cliffhangers for the next season
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Post by: Oberyn on May 07, 2013, 07:38:12 pm
Have you read the books?  Especially the book this season (and the next) is based on?  Cuz lol

ESPECIALLY next season.  The entire second half of Storm of Swords is balls2theWall

Warning, incoming spoilers:
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 07, 2013, 07:51:46 pm
any scene with dragons is the worst scene.
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Post by: Tot. on May 07, 2013, 09:12:36 pm
Rickon Stark had a line in this episode. Holy shit.

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Post by: Count_Curtis on May 07, 2013, 10:11:53 pm
Hodor says hodor more than rickon says anything, in both the series and the books
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Post by: Lemmy_Winks on May 08, 2013, 12:33:46 am
I tried to get into the show. Watched the first two seasons and the first few episodes of season 3. I was enjoying the first half of season 1 atleast, but things started to get boring as all of the build up in the show would just lead to whatever it was building up to being skipped or just not being fullfilling. The story lines also kind of got boring as they slowed to a crawl. By the time i stopped watching at start of season 3 i was skipping every story line except for John Snows, and Jamie and the giant lesbian, and the other black watch guys. Alot of the story lines also seem to be kind of repetitive especially the one with the midget, its just sceme after sceme which all start to look the same after awhile. And just the non stop all talk no action is boring, im into talking if its interesting or intrigueing but it gets old.
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Post by: Jon Agony on May 08, 2013, 12:56:22 am
There was so much wrong in that comment in my opinion.  :idea:
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Post by: Overdriven on May 13, 2013, 11:36:06 pm
Didn't think they'd include the bear fight. Was quite impressed with that. Good episode overall and some nice show of the dragon's as well.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 13, 2013, 11:38:23 pm
why the bear didn't die? Did they fear PETA?
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Post by: Oberyn on May 14, 2013, 07:59:29 am
Would have looked ridiculously fake unless they put a lot of money into it, either for reasonably good looking cgi or puppet. They prob blew their special effects budget for that episode on the dragons during the Yunkai parley.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 14, 2013, 08:55:33 am
yeah, doesn't matter that much anyway. But somehow I missed the fierceness of Brienne in that scene. Was it due to my expectations or did she not appear rather helpless? I mean, she is helpless in that pit of course but I imagined it to show more how she is a bear of herself.
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Post by: Tot. on May 14, 2013, 09:14:28 am
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So what actually happened in this episode? The wildlings advanced 1 mile. Robb fucked his wife. Tywin walked down to the throne room and then back. Torture guy got tortured (why am I even supposed to care about this dude? He's utterly irrelevant.) The two girls had yet another chat about marriage. Dany does the same thing she's already done twice.


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Post by: Oberyn on May 14, 2013, 09:39:01 am
yeah, doesn't matter that much anyway. But somehow I missed the fierceness of Brienne in that scene. Was it due to my expectations or did she not appear rather helpless? I mean, she is helpless in that pit of course but I imagined it to show more how she is a bear of herself.

I think the way she contemptuously defeated Jaime, supposedly one of the best swordsmen in westeros (as opposed to how it is described in the books) has already set her up as pretty badass. And yeah Tot, this episode has mostly been set-up and foreshadowing.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 14, 2013, 09:47:27 am
loved her gown btw  :D
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Post by: Freland on May 14, 2013, 09:51:26 am
Nice episode with a good climax at the end (bear fight).
But I'm really sick of yet another "Theon gets tortured" scene. He gets way too much screen time and that story arc is even pretty much irrelevant until a certain person comes to the North.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 14, 2013, 10:20:59 am
Nice episode with a good climax at the end (bear fight).
But I'm really sick of yet another "Theon gets tortured" scene. He gets way too much screen time and that story arc is even pretty much irrelevant until a certain person comes to the North.

light spoilers:

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Post by: Overdriven on May 14, 2013, 11:13:10 am


It's all character stuff which you get in the books, though not necessarily in the same place e.g. Rob. If they skipped it out you'd lose a lot of it though.

Not much of a spoiler but:
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As for Tywin, it's just yet another demonstration of how much control he has over everybody within his arc. I personally loved that scene because Tywin is one of my favourite characters. Danny and the Yunkai was a nice scene as well because it finally shows her as something of a Queen. I've been getting tired of the annoying yelling that she always does every episode 'I AM DAENERYS STORMBORN OF THE HOUSE TARGARYEN AND I WILL BLAH BLAH BLAH'. It was nice to see a glimpse of her in the role she's going to spend a lot of time in now, which in my opinion is much better.

Nice episode with a good climax at the end (bear fight).
But I'm really sick of yet another "Theon gets tortured" scene. He gets way too much screen time and that story arc is even pretty much irrelevant until a certain person comes to the North.

Yeah they at least make it interesting though  :wink: Also I think the point is to let you know just how fucked up the bastard is. Because in the books it kind of tells you all the stuff he did to Theon post events. Which doesn't really work to well in a TV show, so to do those events now makes some sense. Although I think they are spending a little to much time on it, but that's probably more for the actors sake.
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Post by: Freland on May 14, 2013, 11:30:00 am
And for the same reason they will tell some Theon scenes from Book 5 in the next season.

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Post by: Overdriven on May 14, 2013, 11:37:05 am
Actually yeah that's probably true.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 14, 2013, 04:09:41 pm
So what actually happened in this episode? The wildlings advanced 1 mile. Robb fucked his wife. Tywin walked down to the throne room and then back. Torture guy got tortured (why am I even supposed to care about this dude? He's utterly irrelevant.) The two girls had yet another chat about marriage. Dany does the same thing she's already done twice.

this how I feel about the whole book series. nothing happens by the end of book 5, and book 6 will never be completed because Martin is going to die of diabetes or heart disease.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on May 14, 2013, 04:47:26 pm
this how I feel about the whole book series. nothing happens by the end of book 5, and book 6 will never be completed because Martin is going to die of diabetes or heart disease.

Your renown/infamy bar now makes sense  :rolleyes: And Tot. go read the books and the series will become alot better cause right now you are just keeping on saying the series sucks etc but you still watch it? Perhaps it wasn't you that said so but who knows  :?
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Post by: Tot. on May 14, 2013, 05:07:06 pm
And Tot. go read the books and the series will become alot better cause right now you are just keeping on saying the series sucks etc but you still watch it? Perhaps it wasn't you that said so but who knows  :?

I read the books long time ago. And lol at bolded part, implying things I never said even though you could just check the thread you're posting in to find out before posting. I guess in your mind someone's either uncritical fanboy or hater who should go read the books or, better, just stfu.
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Post by: Jon Agony on May 14, 2013, 05:40:12 pm
First of all, i never intended to be rude. And i'm rather so lazy so i couldn't bother doing that  :idea:. And yes! That's exactly how i imply the readers/watchers of A Song of Ice and Fire  :mad: And telling me to shut the fuck up won't solve it neither will downvoting my post :cry:
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 14, 2013, 05:41:29 pm
but in anals case I really wonder why he is still around, telling us how bad the story is. Maybe too some hidden love for it?

I have to admit I currently reread the 5th book (as if I hadn't enough new stuff to read :rolleyes:) and I enjoy every single page of it, nothing wasted IMO and the coming things will be awesome only because of this.
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Post by: Tot. on May 14, 2013, 05:44:52 pm
First of all, i never intended to be rude. And i'm rather so lazy so i couldn't bother doing that  :idea:. And yes! That's exactly how i imply the readers/watchers of A Song of Ice and Fire  :mad: And telling me to shut the fuck up won't solve it neither will downvoting my post :cry:

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I guess in your mind someone's either uncritical fanboy or hater who should go read the books or, better, [who should] just stfu.






Some people can't into syntax.


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Post by: Jon Agony on May 14, 2013, 05:57:51 pm
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Sorry, my bad!
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Post by: Overdriven on May 15, 2013, 12:24:04 am
This describes this episode pretty well:

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Post by: Rumblood on May 15, 2013, 01:39:44 am
but in anals case I really wonder why he is still around, telling us how bad the story is. Maybe too some hidden love for it?

He sticks around for the man sex and is disappointed at the quantity.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 15, 2013, 07:32:49 am
all about the butthole.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 15, 2013, 07:43:24 am
this how I feel about the whole book series. nothing happens by the end of book 5, and book 6 will never be completed because Martin is going to die of diabetes or heart disease.

I love the series, but yeah, I'm almost sure Martin will die of being a fat fuck before finishing it. At best there will be an incoherent mess cobbled together from his greasy, sauce stained notes.
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Post by: Leesin on May 15, 2013, 07:53:43 am
I think it's going to be a bumming accident that finishes him off, maybe even with a horse.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 15, 2013, 08:27:46 am
I love the series, but yeah, I'm almost sure Martin will die of being a fat fuck before finishing it. At best there will be an incoherent mess cobbled together from his greasy, sauce stained notes.

lol that's great.
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Post by: Berserkadin on May 16, 2013, 02:31:21 am
Jaime is growing as a character in a very nice way, I love the brienne/Jaime story, beauty and the beast ;)

Btw, Rob's wife got a fantastic ass.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 16, 2013, 03:22:32 am
so does Jaime.  :oops:
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Post by: Overdriven on May 16, 2013, 10:30:09 am
Btw, Rob's wife got a fantastic ass.

Yup thoroughly enjoyed that prolonged scene!
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Post by: Vibe on May 16, 2013, 11:29:21 am
Jaime is growing as a character in a very nice way, I love the brienne/Jaime story, beauty and the beast ;)

Which one is the beauty and which is the beast
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Post by: Berserkadin on May 16, 2013, 01:02:20 pm
Yup thoroughly enjoyed that prolonged scene!

"Attack attack!" Bitch is craving cock lol.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 16, 2013, 10:05:09 pm
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Out with some friends the other night (was a college night at the bar...I certainly reminisced about being single)
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Post by: Overdriven on May 16, 2013, 10:32:23 pm
"Attack attack!" Bitch is craving cock lol.

Haha nice arse wiggle that went with that as well.
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Post by: Jon Agony on May 16, 2013, 11:34:57 pm
Which one is the beauty and which is the beast


BAM!
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 20, 2013, 05:33:14 pm
Sam the Slayer!!! was a pretty good episode
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 20, 2013, 11:12:09 pm
liked the episode very much! The slayer scene was awesome, the awkward wedding was ingenious, and they handled the Daario scenes pretty well (they had to simplify again). And even if it was short, I love the performance/appearance of the Hound every time. Fitting credits music as well.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 20, 2013, 11:22:14 pm
Yeah I enjoyed that episode. Less so the Stannis stuff although the leech thing was interesting. The awkward wedding though was very well done. Daario isn't quite as I imagined him but o well.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 20, 2013, 11:31:41 pm
oh, forgot about that. the sex scene was pretty needless (again), but I enjoyed the overall setting and especially the stannis - davos dialogue.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 23, 2013, 10:33:14 pm
I don't understand why everyone in this show is so hateful & negative about such a beautiful charming guy like Lord Walder Frey....  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 24, 2013, 06:57:24 am
guess everybody gets killed next episode or the one after?
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Post by: Beauchamp on May 26, 2013, 03:15:46 pm
to much chatter, to few fighting. i'm a primitive and i want some straight action. at least 5 seconds in an episode would do.
(fatty with pathetic scraper doesn't count)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jon Agony on May 26, 2013, 03:31:16 pm
Anal, believe it or not but everybody doesn't read the books so keep spoilers for yourself.
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Post by: BASNAK on May 26, 2013, 04:18:43 pm
Ned Stark get resurrected and Spartacus dies, duh.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 27, 2013, 02:34:55 am
no episode this week.
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Post by: Apsod on May 27, 2013, 03:28:18 am
no episode this week.
What the hell, those evil bastards!
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Post by: Malaclypse on May 27, 2013, 08:01:45 pm
What the hell, those evil bastards!

It's us filthy Americans who are to blame, I've heard. Memorial day weekend, a lot of people out of town Sunday evening (not this American though, fucking jerks).
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Post by: Freland on May 27, 2013, 08:07:53 pm
This is a scene which I believe is fanmade and they made it look like it was cut from season 1.  It contains major spoilers about the most popular theory in the whole ASOIAF book series.

It's a flashback of Ned which happens during Robert's rebellion against the Targaryens. If you have read all the books you probably know the theory but only if you read carefully
So watch at your own risk.
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Post by: Freland on May 27, 2013, 08:09:44 pm
Some deleted scenes from season 2. Anyone who has watched season 2 can watch this without worrying about spoliers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEU_D6D7Je8
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 27, 2013, 11:25:08 pm
here is an excerpt from the next book in the series, which might be released before 2020 if we are lucky.
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what a shit writer.
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Post by: BASNAK on May 27, 2013, 11:26:30 pm
here is an excerpt from the next book in the series, which might be released before 2020 if we are lucky.
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what a shit writer.

Why do you bother reading/watching the series then :|
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Post by: Malaclypse on May 27, 2013, 11:32:17 pm
I honestly haven't read the books, just a series viewer, but if that link is any indication of the writer's style, I don't think I'm missing out. I do a lot of editing for other people, help them to get rid of superfluous or repetitive segments of their work, maybe I should try my hand at writing if this is the sort of thing that makes money, jeeze.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 27, 2013, 11:37:36 pm
This is a scene which I believe is fanmade and they made it look like it was cut from season 1.  It contains major spoilers about the most popular theory in the whole ASOIAF book series.

It's a flashback of Ned which happens during Robert's rebellion against the Targaryens. If you have read all the books you probably know the theory but only if you read carefully
So watch at your own risk.
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I missed that when I was reading it but I have heard the theory several times since. It would certainly make sense in the context.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on May 28, 2013, 12:08:53 am
His prose is about as flabby as his body.
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Post by: Freland on May 28, 2013, 09:39:50 am
I've heard it several times now that his prose isn't considered to be of high standards but as I am not a native speaker it doesn't bother me. He can certainly write better than me ;-)
What I love about his books is the magnitude of his story, the foretelling of things to come and the surprising story twists. I can't remember another book series that I enjoyed so much.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 28, 2013, 11:51:05 am
Yeah the depth of characters and the story is what really keeps it going. There are some parts where he does write really well but with the size of the novels and the scale obviously it's not all going to be perfect. Can say the same about big authors both past and present. For example I despise Tolkein's writing style, yet he's considered the father of modern fantasy. His writing style doesn't particularly matter. Then you have Rowling with the Harry Potter novels. I could write endless amounts about how awful her writing style is but again they sold well because of the genre and story.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 28, 2013, 01:41:43 pm
Some deleted scenes from season 2. Anyone who has watched season 2 can watch this without worrying about spoliers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEU_D6D7Je8

the only scene I would have liked to see is the hound/bird scene. Good they cut the other.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 03, 2013, 04:35:14 am
they did the red wedding scene pretty well. I think the viewers may be disappointed that a lot of the good guys die, and maybe the show will be cancelled.
the blackfish guy left to take a piss before the slaughter began, I forget if he survived in the books.
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Post by: Freland on June 03, 2013, 10:14:41 am
On the official HBO forums some people really go mad and threaten to cancel their HBO subscription.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 03, 2013, 12:40:43 pm
On the official HBO forums some people really go mad and threaten to cancel their HBO subscription.

I bet it will make the views go up again times 10. They pulled the red wedding of like it was meant to be. Well done, HBO.

First I missed some tension and hints like they are there in the books, but then it got epic and it is the right decision to lull everyone in harmony on screen. And I 'enjoyed' Walder Frey a lot, what an awesome ass.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 02:09:11 pm
they did the red wedding scene pretty well. I think the viewers may be disappointed that a lot of the good guys die, and maybe the show will be cancelled.
the blackfish guy left to take a piss before the slaughter began, I forget if he survived in the books.

I think he gets taken prisoner or something. That was my thought. Can't remember though. I'll be watching it tonight so will comment later.
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Post by: Freland on June 03, 2013, 02:44:40 pm
The Blackfish isn't even at the wedding in the books. He stays at Riverrun with Jeyne Westerling.
But they needed some familiar faces at the wedding because they didn't bring back Robb's bannermen for this season (most notably the Umbers).
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Post by: Oberyn on June 03, 2013, 02:57:55 pm
God the people whining about the Red Wedding and how it traumatized them and they're not watching the series anymore. What a bunch of weak, naive wankers. One of the whole points of the series is that it's supposed to be more or less reality, actual human beings, but in a "fantastical" setting (which is more medieval and very little fantasy anyways). I want to hit them in the face with a giant book full of all the recorded history we have of those times, maybe transfer some sort of awareness through osmosis. It's like they're surprised that life was/is tragic and selfish violent bastards often end up on top. Look at what one these retards wrote:

"i come from a world where the good always win in the end the bad dose win early and often but its call fool gold. and all i am saying is in a show were their is   a warring family you  must have one family with honor to root for. thats the good in human nature"

That's nice, the rest of us live in a place called "reality", maybe you can join us sometime.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 03:03:33 pm
Looking through those comments on the HBO forum it seems like the people saying they are cancelling HBO don't even realise it's a book series before a TV show. And if they do they haven't read any of them and are honestly surprised. Even saw some guy ranting about how the good guys get killed off and yet the Lannister's never do so he's cancelling. Just have some patience dude, they get their turn!

People miss a lot of the point of the books. There is no real good guy bad guy scenario.
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Post by: Freland on June 03, 2013, 03:08:10 pm
You might want to put that part about the Lannisters in spoilers Overdriven.

Some twitter reactions
https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 03:08:58 pm
You might want to put that part about the Lannisters in spoilers Overdriven.

Some twitter reactions
https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears

Well it's pretty bloody obvious  :P
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 03, 2013, 03:12:22 pm
One major thing I like about the show is the lack of obvious plot armor, I, never having read the books, still expected some magic flying god to come and save Ned Stark because he seemed like such a typical hero.
Also, people can't really claim house Stark has any real major honor, I mean fucking Rob didn't honor poor Mr Frays deal regarding marrying one of his chicks.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 03:18:51 pm
Also, people can't really claim house Stark has any real major honor, I mean fucking Rob didn't honor poor Mr Frays deal regarding marrying one of his chicks.

Yeah the point is they were both the architects of their own downfall and ultimately a significant portion of their families. Ned was too honourable and thus made some bad decisions and trapped himself in a nest of vipers. Rob fell in love and dishonoured an agreement with a man who is renowned in Westeros for holding grudges. Like father, like son.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 03, 2013, 03:19:25 pm
My schadenfreude is off the charts reading those tweets. I'm not sure why, since I was shocked as well when I read it. But looking back on it it's one of the best plot twists in the entire series, and fits with the overall themes of politics and war. It made me want to finish reading even more, if anything. I guess some people were still under the impression this was some sort of Disney tv series in a fairyland with gumdrops and icecream.
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Post by: Freland on June 03, 2013, 03:30:52 pm
My schadenfreude is off the charts reading those tweets. I'm not sure why, since I was shocked as well when I read it.
For me it's the same - it's tasty to read all that rage and I don't feel bad for the people who are mad and curse GRRM or even HBO for killing their heroes.
But I feel bad for the people who (like me) were shocked to their bones. In other TV shows the heroes would at least put up a great fight and  take some of the main villains with them. But no - just bloody slaughter.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 03, 2013, 03:50:37 pm
If it wasn't for all the dicks spoiling everything everywhere on the internet from the books, I would never have expected this to happen.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 04:13:20 pm
I was certainly very surprised when I read what happened to Robb in the book, didn't see it coming.  But in hind sight, I probably should have.  I mean he completely fucked over an agreement he had.  It was the only reason Lord Frey let him cross at the Twins when he first marched south. 
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Post by: Lars on June 03, 2013, 04:52:52 pm
Toodaloo motherfucker :!:


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People miss a lot of the point of the books. There is no real good guy bad guy scenario.

That's actually one of the aspects i like the most about "A song of ice and fire/Got"
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Post by: BASNAK on June 03, 2013, 05:00:52 pm
People miss a lot of the point of the books. There is no real good guy bad guy scenario.

Even if this is true. TV casuals like my self will always love the Starks and qq every time one of them dies. I don't know how the conflict is portrayed in the books but both Ned and Robb Stark are badasses and the lannisters twats in the TV-series.

RIP BED STARK
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 05:08:08 pm
Even if this is true. TV casuals like my self will always love the Starks and qq every time one of them dies. I don't know how the conflict is portrayed in the books but both Ned and Robb Stark are badasses and the lannisters twats in the TV-series.

RIP BED STARK

Well in the books you get a lot more of the emotional conflicts. Every character has their reason's for the things they do, bar maybe 1 or 2 who are wholly twisted. Cersei is an outright bitch for a good reason and she's protective of her children. Jaime did the things he did for all sorts of reasons as well as you glimpse with the bath house conversation with Brienne. Tywin is an amazing character, the best ruler Westeros has had for generations (he effectively ruled Westeros peacefully for 20 years as the hand of the King).

I think the difference with the Stark's is that they are more portrayed as one big happy family that get's torn apart following Ned's execution. They have been largely disconnected from events in the greater parts of Westeros since the rebellion. They ruled the North for Robert and lived happily for years with little interruption. In the South it's a different story though. The Lannister's were more central to court and therefore they had a lot more of the court conflicts working to break apart their family than the Stark's did, and this shows in the interactions between their family when you see Tywin, Tyrion and Cersei together. They are generally a lot more hostile to each other and those around them. But if they weren't, they would never have survived as one of the leading families.
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Post by: Leesin on June 03, 2013, 05:09:19 pm
Haven't read the books and have avoided all spoilers possible so this was an amazing episode for me, shocking indeed but as gritty and real as a 'Medieval' world should be.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 03, 2013, 05:18:00 pm
I have a spoiler question though:

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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 03, 2013, 05:18:37 pm
In studying literature there is a general precedent that the main heroes aren't supposed to be killed, because the reader bonds with them. this dates back to greek epics, etc.
however in Shakespearean drama there is this kind of thing.
usually the doomed characters have fatal flaws, which are hinted at earlier.
there is such a thing as too much tragedy, which leaves nowhere for the plot to go afterward except into a completely incoherent mess which is the rest of the story unfortunately.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 03, 2013, 05:19:38 pm
I have a spoiler question though:

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It is indeed true.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 03, 2013, 05:19:43 pm
I have a spoiler question though:

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the tv show replaced his wife with the swarthy girl from another continent.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 05:25:38 pm
It is indeed true.
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In studying literature there is a general precedent that the main heroes aren't supposed to be killed, because the reader bonds with them. this dates back to greek epics, etc.
however in Shakespearean drama there is this kind of thing.
usually the doomed characters have fatal flaws, which are hinted at earlier.
there is such a thing as too much tragedy, which leaves nowhere for the plot to go afterward except into a completely incoherent mess which is the rest of the story unfortunately.

And I disagree 100%.  This is what makes me like the books so much, is that they seem very believable.  Human nature should be more prevalent in stories of this type, and that's what really kept me interested in them.  The fact that someone who "does the right thing" and gets killed because of someone else's ambitions seems very realistic to me.  And you know where the story goes?  It goes to the other people in the world who are looking to usurp the throne.  You think that in the middle ages when a lord dies that it's the end of the world?  Of course not, there's always going to be someone else to step up and try to take that castle or lands.  There doesn't need to be an "ending" for me to even feel satisfied, the story of fighting for power is what I enjoy. 
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 05:58:40 pm
Book spoiler (not a plot spoiler, but a difference between the book and tv show): 
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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2013, 06:12:06 pm
It seems to me that at least 90% of the replies are along the lines of "Masterpiece!" and 10% are 13 year old girls saying they're never watching (pirating) the show again.

Also what the fuck is up with those Tweets?

"fuck GRRM, fuck HBO, i want to kill GRRM"
x1000.

The fuck?

Also.

Leigh Bublitz ‏@leighbublitz 12 h
Anyone else throw up after thrones? No just me? #literally

How can people be upset over the fact that they get emotional? That shows it's damn good television. I guess it upsets their braindead TV sessions where they just turn their brain off.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 03, 2013, 06:20:03 pm
Oh. My. God.

The episode... I was nearly crying...
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Post by: Rumblood on June 03, 2013, 06:39:35 pm
At fifteen, I had the will to  learn ; at thirty, I could stand ; at forty, I had no  doubts ; at fifty, I understood the heavenly Bidding ;  at sixty, my ears were opened ; at seventy, I could  do as my heart lusted without trespassing from the  square..

I mean book is dead.

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Post by: okiN on June 03, 2013, 07:48:57 pm
I'm surprised that Robb was completely oblivious when the Rains of Castamere started playing.
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 03, 2013, 07:57:03 pm
the story is all downhill from here.
feast for crows was crap
dance with dragons is crap.
too many new characters that no one gives a shit about.

plus all the dragon and magic crap which sucks.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 03, 2013, 07:59:32 pm
You're crap.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 08:03:14 pm
the story is all downhill from here.
feast for crows was crap
dance with dragons is crap.
too many new characters that no one gives a shit about.

plus all the dragon and magic crap which sucks.

That's just like, your opinion, man.  One that I disagree with 100%.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 03, 2013, 08:17:58 pm
And you really don't need to tell us again and again, anal. It's not that posting it multiple times will make it any more interesting to read. :|
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Post by: Berserkadin on June 03, 2013, 09:02:12 pm
Great television awakes strong emotions like these, I felt angry and wanted to see all responsible suffer, wich they may in time...
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Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2013, 09:03:48 pm
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 03, 2013, 09:09:51 pm
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.
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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2013, 09:23:45 pm
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.

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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 09:30:05 pm
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.

You just said a few posts ago how this type of storytelling isn't popular and isn't mainstream.  And then you go on to tell us how it's "popular crap"

Dafuq?
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Post by: ThePoopy on June 03, 2013, 09:35:49 pm
When Arya arrives, someone dies.
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Post by: Lars on June 03, 2013, 10:10:40 pm
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.


Bitch,please

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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 03, 2013, 10:28:01 pm
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Post by: Micah on June 03, 2013, 10:30:41 pm
hehe , was expecting something to happen, because all was a bit too peacefully .. but didnt expect THIS. xD
Great twist, great dramaturgy, great series =D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Berserkadin on June 03, 2013, 10:37:45 pm
Omg good guys can lose? NOOOOOOOOOOO!

Btw Anal Bleeding have gone crazy (I mean really crazy) after getting permabanned from cRPG. You need some serious help man.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 03, 2013, 11:04:28 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 04, 2013, 01:13:24 am
believe it or not, game of thrones was on the syllabus of a course in my university. a lot of the students found that the prose wasn't especially well executed.
i was a fanboi of the books until book 4 and 5.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2013, 02:23:19 am
believe it or not, game of thrones was on the syllabus of a course in my university. a lot of the students found that the prose wasn't especially well executed.
i was a fanboi of the books until book 4 and 5.
Well if the students thought the prose wasn't especially well executed then I don't see how that couldn't be the truth.

Back when I was in kindergarten, we were given this book for learning alphabet. A lot of the students didn't find the prose especially well executed.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2013, 02:33:51 am
i was a fanboi of the books until book 4 and 5.

and then you got butthurt?
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 04, 2013, 03:53:35 am
allright sorry if I offended you and your fairy tales.
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Post by: Rogue on June 04, 2013, 08:12:30 am
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.

But thankfully we have "students of literature" like you, to tell us how wrong everyone is, at least 4 times per page.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on June 04, 2013, 08:22:26 am
and then you got butthurt?

No, the amount of butthurt seriously dropped off in books 4 and 5.


Badum bump.
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Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2013, 08:26:09 am
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 04, 2013, 09:58:41 am
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lmao'd :D. FUCKING JON SNOW! Y U DO DIS?! For some punk crows... Seriously?

The thing about red wedding is that you should always listen to your mother! If Rob only did what his mother told him he would have had gorgeous wife and they all would be alive. Even Ned would be alive if he listened to his wife :D. Mothers always get to say "told you so", it's a law of nature.

I'm going to read the books years from now when the tv show has been finished and I've forgotten about it... I just imagine I wouldn't enjoy the show anymore if I read the books now. I'm sure I will enjoy reading them because I'll get to dig deeper into the story. That's just how I roll :D
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2013, 10:00:54 am
allright sorry if I offended you and your fairy tales.

no worry, you didn't.

The thing about red wedding is that you should always listen to your mother! If Rob only did what his mother told him he would have had gorgeous wife and they all would be alive. Even Ned would be alive if he listened to his wife :D. Mothers always get to say "told you so", it's a law of nature.

In the book Cat pushes Ned to take the job. And there is that thing with Jaime, and most important Tyrion...
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 04, 2013, 10:05:25 am
no delete button?
I have it :)

Edit: Is it bad that I've started to feel bad for Kingslayer? :( Yeah he fucks his sister but so what. Pushing a little boy off that tower wasn't cool tho...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 04, 2013, 10:10:12 am
The thing about red wedding is that you should always listen to your mother! If Rob only did what his mother told him he would have had gorgeous wife and they all would be alive. Even Ned would be alive if he listened to his wife :D. Mothers always get to say "told you so", it's a law of nature.

Maybe so. But IMO the Starks were the most righteous and always tried doing what was right, even though they would severely be punished for it. Maybe what Robb Stark did was wrong when he didn't conclude his marriage with the Freys, can't really blame him for choosing love over an arranged marriage, and he proved to be a great commander and would punish anyone that commits crime, no matter the rank. It's people like them that would make the world a better place :D

I try to imagine which despot I would like to live under if I had to choose one from GoT. And it would pretty much be the Starks, Martells or the Targeryen queen.

And there is still hope as the Starks are yet not dead, and the Martells and Daenerys have a lot of potential.
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Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2013, 10:12:00 am
can't really blame him for choosing love over an arranged marriage

that's so un-medieval of you dude
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 04, 2013, 11:41:08 am
The best thing about last episode is probably to read those damn tweets. It's funny how people get so emotionally attached to the characters and go as far as to threaten to kill George RR Martin for "ruining their summer" :mrgreen:... Fucking assholes don't even know what they are watching if they think there is only good and bad sides and that good people win every battle.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 04, 2013, 11:53:26 am
I will wtach the last two episodes next Monday with three people who haven't read the books. I so hope nobody is spoilering it for them.
Hope they manage to squeeze in some kind of hope for the next season in the last episode so people won't stop watching.
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Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2013, 11:56:51 am
I will wtach the last two episodes next Monday with three people who haven't read the books. I so hope nobody is spoilering it for them.

Best to stay off the internet then lol, it's being mentioned everywhere
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 04, 2013, 12:02:37 pm
Best to stay off the internet then lol, it's being mentioned everywhere
Lol damn people can't handle their GoT.

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Post by: Micah on June 04, 2013, 12:48:16 pm
http://www.amypink.com/de/2013/06/game-of-thrones-die-blutige-hochzeit/

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Post by: BASNAK on June 04, 2013, 01:03:41 pm
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Lol this is too damn true
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Post by: Xant on June 04, 2013, 01:18:44 pm
"Why doesn't George R.R. Martin use Twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters."
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2013, 04:29:28 pm
Anal Bleeding is an obvious bundle of sticks troll (hint, his handle), but he has the glimmer of a point. As a fan the apex of the series for me was definetely Storm of Swords. I still feel it's the best book. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the following ones, but as far as awesome moments and interesting plot twists it's far superior to ones before and after, so far. Bleeding seems to act like a betrayed, spurned lover about it. Either because he's a whiny entitled douchebag, or an obvious troll. I think the latter.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 04, 2013, 04:53:09 pm
bundle of sticks einstein worshipping chocolate chip cookie
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 04, 2013, 05:03:48 pm
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Post by: Xant on June 04, 2013, 08:04:29 pm
Anal Bleeding is an obvious bundle of sticks troll (hint, his handle), but he has the glimmer of a point. As a fan the apex of the series for me was definetely Storm of Swords. I still feel it's the best book. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the following ones, but as far as awesome moments and interesting plot twists it's far superior to ones before and after, so far. Bleeding seems to act like a betrayed, spurned lover about it. Either because he's a whiny entitled douchebag, or an obvious troll. I think the latter.

That's true, though the latest book was a lot better than the previous two.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 04, 2013, 10:42:10 pm
That's true, though the latest book was a lot better than the previous two.

The one before the previous to the last was Storm of Swords.   :D
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 04, 2013, 11:18:45 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 04, 2013, 11:37:46 pm
oh goddamit I hate you all. so all main chars die or what?  fuck you for even hinting sth like this,  I wont visit this gay thread anymore QQ
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 05, 2013, 12:00:57 am
oh goddamit I hate you all. so all main chars die or what?  fuck you for even hinting sth like this,  I wont visit this gay thread anymore QQ
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Post by: Torben on June 05, 2013, 12:15:40 am
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thats just how i feel :(
nah, but i thought to have understood that more main chars will die in the coming books ^^

damn thread,  i visited you again"!
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 05, 2013, 12:19:06 am
Haha I love this music video:

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Post by: Oberyn on June 05, 2013, 12:40:58 am
Hahaha so good. GRRM eating a baby with evil other eyes.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 05, 2013, 01:30:01 am

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 05, 2013, 01:38:44 am
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 05, 2013, 02:05:37 am
winter has been coming for 16 years, awesome.
maybe it will get there in another 15.
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Post by: Leesin on June 05, 2013, 07:52:56 am
winter has been coming for 16 years, awesome.
maybe it will get there in another 15.

You're still here?

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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 05, 2013, 08:08:06 am
winter has been coming for 16 years, awesome.
maybe it will get there in another 15.
Hey eh, seeing as you've been permabanned from cRPG for like half a year now, isn't it like time to stop shitting around on this forum?
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 05, 2013, 04:37:20 pm
Legal in England

Oh cmon...there's no comparison of her (a 16 year old) and actual women...even compared to Sansa
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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 05, 2013, 05:48:17 pm
are any of these chicks in porn besides sibel amigoli?
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Post by: Tot. on June 05, 2013, 05:51:57 pm
This massive butthurt after the wedding episode smells a lot like clever viral trying to reproduce the outrage/ free marketing after s1 ending.

Also, they didnt include my favorite scene, Robb's wolf sensing whats up before the feast when they met Freys outside the castle. I prefered this version with couple of hints along the road that shit is about to go down, there was way more tension that way.
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Post by: Rumblood on June 05, 2013, 06:08:43 pm
This massive butthurt after the wedding episode smells a lot like clever viral trying to reproduce the outrage/ free marketing after s1 ending.

Yes, massive conspiracy where the fans and producers of the show got together to make these reaction videos. I mean, its like some people already KNEW what was going to happen before the show aired!

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Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 05, 2013, 06:40:36 pm

http://hypervocal.com/entertainment/2013/game-of-thrones-porn-past/
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on June 05, 2013, 06:53:00 pm
Yes, massive conspiracy where the fans and producers of the show got together blabla

Non standard ways of generating publicity are conspiracy now?

Americans, lol.
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Post by: Rumblood on June 05, 2013, 07:47:25 pm
Non standard ways of generating publicity are conspiracy now?

Americans, lol.

Its your conspiracy theory, not mine.

Euro's, blaming others for their own wacky ideas, lol.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: okiN on June 05, 2013, 07:55:47 pm
Are you seriously pretending viral marketing isn't a real thing?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 05, 2013, 10:24:32 pm
lol even the word "viral" is most probably invented by advertisement/marketing folk (in this context). I mean isn't it obvious? Listen to the word "VIRAL"... Sounds so young douchy and hipster. I want to vomit...
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Post by: BASNAK on June 06, 2013, 12:39:36 am
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Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
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Post by: Dooz on June 06, 2013, 12:42:44 am
Listen to the word "VIRAL"... Sounds so young douchy and hipster. I want to vomit...

This probably says more about you than about the world "viral", which is a term that comes from the word "virus" and how they spread and whatnot.

God damn that dragon bitch is fine though, ooooweeeeeee.  :o
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2013, 12:59:52 am
This probably says more about you than about the world "viral", which is a term that comes from the word "virus" and how they spread and whatnot.

God damn that dragon bitch is fine though, ooooweeeeeee.  :o
I know where the word comes from. I never just liked the sound of it. I guess the virus imagery fits the phenomena of popularized internet memes. I always preferred "cancer" but I guess it's too bold for main stream media and Fox news.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 06, 2013, 01:04:53 am
are any of these chicks in porn besides sibel amigoli?

Not really unless you count the wonderful extra that is Sahara Knight who plays the 'exotic' whore in Baelish's brothel.

http://hypervocal.com/entertainment/2013/game-of-thrones-porn-past/
 (http://hypervocal.com/entertainment/2013/game-of-thrones-porn-past/)

Lol you beat me to it with your own question  :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2013, 04:01:30 am
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Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.


Well he used her in the beginning to get home to Westeros. But god, the face when she asks about Daario :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on June 06, 2013, 04:36:32 am
Are you seriously pretending viral marketing isn't a real thing?

Viral marketing is a corporate entity creating an object that is then adopted and distributed by consumers. What it is NOT is spontaneous reaction to material like a movie that then is captured and distributed by consumers themselves. Using the term viral marketing implies that HBO or the producers worked with fans to fake the "reaction" videos and all the outrageous comments on Twitter on other social media, hence a "conspiracy" to further the popularity of the show and bring in more viewers by an orchestrated effort.
Sometimes a fuck is just a fuck, and a reaction is just a reaction, and not some corporate media scheme to drum up more viewership. The red wedding isn't some secret and nobody knew what was going to happen. Tons of people knew what was going to go down (and plenty of viewers who have only seen the series didn't), and knew people would be going "Oh WTF??" when it happened.

But hey, go on thinking it was a scheme by the corporate overlords to milk more money out of the dumb shmucks by creating a "viral marketing campaign" out of it. Personally, I think you give them WAY too much credit and I'm certain they WISH that they could create a campaign like this one on purpose. How's that tinfoil hat fitting? (Ozin quoted, but obviously directed at Tot.)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 06, 2013, 07:35:05 am
GRRM was on Conan O'Brien tonight.
He is looking pretty obese. I hope he has a nutritionalist.
Apparently he grew up in a poor part of New Jersey and had no money to travel, so he developed a great imagination.
He says the show will catch up to the book series in two years, and he will turn it over to the screenwriters to make their own ending.
I kind of feel sorry for him now that he has all the pressure from the tv audience now as well as the readers


 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 06, 2013, 09:55:28 am
Haha I love this music video:

lol, this is so great. I read the fucking books!

Also nice RATM hint. :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Dooz on June 06, 2013, 10:14:22 am
Viral marketing is a corporate entity creating an object that is then adopted and distributed by consumers. What it is NOT is spontaneous reaction to material like a movie that then is captured and distributed by consumers themselves. Using the term viral marketing implies that HBO or the producers worked with fans to fake the "reaction" videos and all the outrageous comments on Twitter on other social media, hence a "conspiracy" to further the popularity of the show and bring in more viewers by an orchestrated effort.
Sometimes a fuck is just a fuck, and a reaction is just a reaction, and not some corporate media scheme to drum up more viewership. The red wedding isn't some secret and nobody knew what was going to happen. Tons of people knew what was going to go down (and plenty of viewers who have only seen the series didn't), and knew people would be going "Oh WTF??" when it happened.

But hey, go on thinking it was a scheme by the corporate overlords to milk more money out of the dumb shmucks by creating a "viral marketing campaign" out of it. Personally, I think you give them WAY too much credit and I'm certain they WISH that they could create a campaign like this one on purpose. How's that tinfoil hat fitting? (Ozin quoted, but obviously directed at Tot.)

You work for corporate america huh?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2013, 11:58:15 am
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Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
Khaleesi has a thing for long haired men it seems :D.


Btw I got Meow's reaction to the red wedding on video:

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Post by: Vibe on June 06, 2013, 12:36:58 pm
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2013, 12:52:12 pm
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Vibe's favorite gif :D
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Post by: bagge on June 06, 2013, 02:26:25 pm
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 :lol:
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Post by: Corwin on June 06, 2013, 02:33:14 pm

Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.

He is totally her cuddle bitch.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bagge on June 06, 2013, 02:34:22 pm
I don't really consider this a spoiler, but read it at you're own risk 8-)

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Post by: Corwin on June 06, 2013, 02:38:04 pm
bagge:
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Post by: bagge on June 06, 2013, 02:40:00 pm
Corwin:
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 06, 2013, 02:45:14 pm
Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.

He just needs to grow a pair, and follow my lead:

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 06, 2013, 02:57:59 pm
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Post by: Count_Curtis on June 06, 2013, 04:04:10 pm
He says the show will catch up to the book series in two years, and he will turn it over to the screenwriters to make their own ending.


he said he will turn it over to the screenwriters to make there own ending IF HE DIES. he shares his notes and shit with them in case he does die
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 06, 2013, 04:06:57 pm
Yeah it's the same with his editors. All his editors and close family know how the story is going to pan out and end in case he never finishes it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: chadz on June 06, 2013, 04:10:54 pm
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 06, 2013, 04:13:21 pm
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.

Lost  :|
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 04:52:11 pm
Lost  :|

Watched and enjoyed the first season, went wtf on the 2nd and never watched again.  Glad I made the right choice.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Turboflex on June 06, 2013, 05:50:55 pm
I hope he appoints some competent trustees of his work because you just know someone will want to expand it after he dies (too popular not too).

If you just leave it to the winds some hacks will get ahold of it, look at what the idiot son did to Frank Herbert's work, complete garbage.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on June 06, 2013, 06:49:49 pm
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.

This is what ultimately killed Heroes.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 06, 2013, 07:09:23 pm
Watched and enjoyed the first season, went wtf on the 2nd and never watched again.  Glad I made the right choice.

That might be weed talking, but that is my reaction exactly! "Twists" in 2nd season were so lame, and most actors got so lazy - it was a pain to watch... Here, I made a quick sketch of how it felt:

Season 1:
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Season 3:
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 07:20:23 pm
Oh cmon...there's no comparison of her (a 16 year old) and actual women...even compared to Sansa
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Girls don't even compare to women :)

Not even 1 upvote for these beautiful women?  Cmon now I spent a good 5 minutes gathering these pictures for comparison sake :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Anal Bleeding on June 06, 2013, 08:50:12 pm
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her greatest achievement
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 06, 2013, 08:51:40 pm
Let me fix that for you

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/32300000/DREDD-2012-lena-headey-32330113-500-533.gif

*EDIT* or not, fuck that site and your shitty links
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on June 06, 2013, 09:10:32 pm
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.
I believe he has, but let us be mindful that american writers (as far as I know) get paid by number of pages  :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2013, 10:49:56 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 07, 2013, 12:23:59 pm
Just finished watching the season, had to postpone chapters 6-9 due to exams, and I must say it's not disappointed me so far. Expected and well executed. I liked the chain mail bit and the wolf's uneaseness, even though it could have happened earlier.

Nice to see the hints from the Lannister's involvement, I thought they might leave it unsaid to create more discussion about it over the summer.

Also, I am glad that R'hllor (Red God) seems to be increasing its influence in Westeros, maybe with the resurrections there will be enough people left to do what will need doing.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Christo on June 07, 2013, 06:26:58 pm
After reading so much about it everywhere on the internet, I was like this:

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Late to the party as usual, I'll look into it during this weekend.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Smoothrich on June 07, 2013, 06:37:40 pm
Watched and enjoyed the first season, went wtf on the 2nd and never watched again.  Glad I made the right choice.

You didn't, season four of Lost is incredible, one of the best seasons of a show I've ever seen. I get a lot of other stuff in Lost was silly but season 4 is basically character-driven time travel sci fi thriller stuff as well as it could ever be done. At least watch the episode "The Constant" its considered the best of the entire series (and is my favorite.)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 07, 2013, 07:10:18 pm
After reading so much about it everywhere on the internet, I was like this:

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Late to the party as usual, I'll look into it during this weekend.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 08, 2013, 06:27:00 pm
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All hail Stannis
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Post by: Jock on June 08, 2013, 07:09:08 pm
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Very much looking forward to that, and Joffrey's wedding.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2013, 07:20:12 pm
Very much looking forward to that, and Joffrey's wedding.
Epic forumname you got there buddy.  :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Count_Curtis on June 08, 2013, 07:29:03 pm
http://teamcoco.com/video/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-spoilers
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 08, 2013, 07:33:17 pm
Made me lol. PS: No spoilers here, just a parody.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 08, 2013, 08:43:47 pm
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Read the fucking title, "Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]", retard.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kafein on June 08, 2013, 09:17:06 pm
After reading so much about it everywhere on the internet, I was like this:

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Late to the party as usual, I'll look into it during this weekend.

SO much this.

Actually I'm reading the books right now and I read that supposedly horrifying part not that long ago. It is so heavily hinted in the books that it didn't really surprise me (also I was ready to see about everyone but Tyrion die, because he's half the fun of the book alone). So far, I preferred the 2nd book.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 08, 2013, 09:35:49 pm
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HEAVY SPOILERS:
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 08, 2013, 11:08:49 pm
Do you think we can make the person above honour his name? Or should he just pull his head out of his ass and stop saying bullshit that does not even happen?

Seriously dude, stop being such a retard. There are people who want to watch the series and not have it spoiled, let alone be misguided by the likes of you.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 08, 2013, 11:26:36 pm
He likes attention, that's why he's spoiling.

Since he can't get attention from posting anything clever or worth reading - He does it the only way he can, by being a douche ;)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 08, 2013, 11:29:35 pm
I'm a douchebag.

This should be bannable!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 08, 2013, 11:34:34 pm
I'm dumb.
Can this douchebag just get permabanned from the forum like he is from the game?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 12:05:01 am
The avatar is too powerful...

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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 12:15:26 am
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: cmp on June 09, 2013, 12:52:48 am
Can this douchebag just get permabanned from the forum like he is from the game?

Good point.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 09, 2013, 12:57:08 am
thanks cmp!  any chance of deleting or editing his comment on the top of this page and bottom of the last to get rid of the spoilers?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: cmp on June 09, 2013, 01:00:02 am
Yep.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 09, 2013, 02:05:00 pm
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Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 09, 2013, 02:13:44 pm
Do you think we can make the person above honour his name? Or should he just pull his head out of his ass and stop saying bullshit that does not even happen?

Seriously dude, stop being such a retard. There are people who want to watch the series and not have it spoiled, let alone be misguided by the likes of you.


But.... but... I even made a spoiler alert  :cry:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Lars on June 09, 2013, 02:32:08 pm

But.... but... I even made a spoiler alert  :cry:


"How would you like to be permabanned, Bittersteel, son of (???) someone (unknown or famous) ?"


Ah, i almost forgot, it's time for another...

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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 02:37:04 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 09, 2013, 02:38:16 pm
Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.

I kind of like it because you get all the character motivations much more. It gives you so much more back story and the history of the place. It enhances the show rather than detracts from it. I find it doesn't really matter what they leave out because obviously they can't include it all, apart from anything for a tv show it would be dull. But getting the extra level of understanding is great.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 02:42:12 pm
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Post by: Lars on June 09, 2013, 02:58:31 pm
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Wtf? is it what i'm thinking? Where did Horseman find that? 

WTf
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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 03:16:11 pm
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Post by: Kafein on June 09, 2013, 03:39:16 pm
Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.

Actually on one occasion it works backwards because in the book you don't see someone's face. The tv series is really good but the books are without doubt better. The problem with watching first is that you already have an image of all the characters when you read.
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Post by: Tibe on June 09, 2013, 05:04:54 pm
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 09, 2013, 05:19:15 pm
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I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE IT TIBE DAMN U!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 09, 2013, 06:13:30 pm
This has turned into a 'Post funny pictures and get UNLIMITED POOOWEERRRR' thread.
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Post by: Kafein on June 09, 2013, 07:56:08 pm
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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 09, 2013, 09:47:47 pm
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Post by: Tot. on June 10, 2013, 12:52:51 am

Check out the end of that video.

On sidenote, I dont get why get so upset about Robb. I guess some people just like that heroic-noble-boyscout vibe. Robb surpassed even his father in terms of acting like a complete idiot because of his egocentric sense of honor. He was utterly incompetent in every way as ruler except winning battles, his rebellion was attempting to split the kingdom and cause even more instability and if all that wasn't enough, he elected to satisfy his dick instead of keeping his word. Best leader ever. He would make a terrible king, people can now pretty much rejoice that the rabid warmonger is dead and a proper ruler (Tywin) can bring peace and stability.  /nerdsprache off




Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 10, 2013, 01:08:01 am
And now GRRM's reaction to the reactions, love especially the noooo waaaay guy
http://teamcoco.com/video/conan-highlight-red-wedding-reactions

True that, Tot, but he is likable because of honour and everybody likes Ned's family. Marrying that girl was a dick move,
He resembles a bit Robert Baratheon, with their rebellions. Avenge a wrong ---> war. He is a pretty fine general though.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on June 10, 2013, 01:28:51 am
Causing deaths of thousands of people because you want to feel good about yourself in the morning isn't a good guy or likable in my book. Stark propaganda.
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 10, 2013, 02:36:47 am
much rejoice that the rabid warmonger is dead and a proper ruler (Tywin) can bring peace and stability.  /nerdsprache off

Twyin is a terrible politician, commander, and father, if you haven't noticed.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2013, 02:38:49 am
Da fuq that's only how he ruled Westeros for 20 years  :| He's a genius ruler.

However he is indisputably an awful father. But he does what he needs to do to secure his families position.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 10, 2013, 02:57:17 am



Warning, huge spoilers from the man himself:

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 10, 2013, 05:31:50 am
Twyin is a terrible politician, commander, and father, if you haven't noticed.
I couldnt disagree anymore. Shit father yes, but terrible politician and commander....naaaah.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 10, 2013, 06:29:45 am
Hahah, what. Tywin is possibly the best commander in the series.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 10, 2013, 07:26:59 am
What battles has Tywin ever won? He's more a good politician/schemer than a commander. I mean he's not incompetent, but he's not a military genius. In the series he's mostly known for commiting a house "genocide" against one of his own vassals, betraying Aerys at the last moment and sacking King's Landing, and underestimating Robb Stark and getting owned. Not exactly a brilliant military career. He takes the entire credit for the battle of the Blackwater when clearly Tyrion was the true saviour there. If it wasn't for Edmure being a dumbass, he would have fallen for yet another trick of Robb Stark's and wouldn't even have been there.
His skill is in forging political stability through alliances and fear, not so much actual warfare.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 10, 2013, 09:10:06 am
Also tot was drawing the morality card, saying something like Robb causes more death and misery than Tywin, because he brings peace and stability. "Terrible" commander and ruler is maybe the wrong choice of word, but at least he is reckless and his peace his built upon corpses and lots of misery. And in opposite to Robb he is doing it in full awareness of every consequence of his actions.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2013, 12:53:06 pm
Well I guess this was it. See ya in this thread again in one year :|.
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Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2013, 01:01:21 pm
It is often underlined in the books that Tywin did a great job as Aerys' Hand.
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Post by: Leesin on June 10, 2013, 02:57:57 pm
Well I guess this was it. See ya in this thread again in one year :|.

9 and a half months if it makes you feel any better  :D
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Post by: okiN on June 10, 2013, 03:25:35 pm
Oh wow, that final scene was just painful to watch. I hear post-colonialism knocking.
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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on June 10, 2013, 04:14:49 pm
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Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 10, 2013, 04:21:34 pm
Robb is one of the biggest assholes in the series so far, and the one guy with the least possible claim to be king. people claim Robb had "honor" and shit like Ned, but really, he goes against his fathers wishes and tries to become king with no real claim on the throne besides "WOLVES AND SHIT! NORTH!", he betrays Walder Fray the second Walder isn't needed, and the only reason he punished that Karstagg guy was because he was afraid of what the Lannisters would do to his sisters. Glad that guy died.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2013, 04:29:30 pm
Robb is one of the biggest assholes in the series so far, and the one guy with the least possible claim to be king. people claim Robb had "honor" and shit like Ned, but really, he goes against his fathers wishes and tries to become king with no real claim on the throne besides "WOLVES AND SHIT! NORTH!", he betrays Walder Fray the second Walder isn't needed, and the only reason he punished that Karstagg guy was because he was afraid of what the Lannisters would do to his sisters. Glad that guy died.

The Starks have been controlling the North for a very long time. I'm not 100% sure but for even thousands of years? And were the kings of the North until the Targaryens conquered them. So it's actually a valid claim to be the King of the North.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 10, 2013, 04:41:27 pm
Tywin hasn't actually met Robb in the field. Saying that Tywin is a bad commander because Robb has put all his mind to avoid Tywin isn't really fair. He didn't defeat Tywin on the battlefield but his son Jamie and Stafford, Johannas brother. As for the books the battle of the Green Fork, you actually read about it in POV of Tyrion. Tywin had a really good 'setup' ... forgive me, i'm not the greatest in terms of war, nor english. Anyways, i found this on another forums.


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Actually, Tywin and Robb never meet in the field. As far as their deployment of forces, Tywin's strategy was pretty good from the outset. The Northerners have to march down the Kingsroad, move to meet them at a spot where he has the advantage, besiege Riverrun in the meantime, and raise a third host to supplement either one of your two original hosts. Of course, people on this forum expect Tywin or Stannis or whoever it is they are bashing to think of every possible permutation, but in reality, almost no one can do that or can afford to take the time to prepare for every eventuality. The fact is Tywin didn't expect Walder Frey, a man whose son is married to Tywin's sister and whose grandsons are fighting under Lannister banners, to support Robb Stark in this conflict, or that a Northern force that would max out at 25,000 would successfully split into two forces and destroy Jaime's host of 15,000. Or that Robb would have a magic wolf that would find a secret goat path past the army guarding the only passage into the Westerlands.


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Well, Robb never won a batlle against Tywin himself, Robb won Jaime and Stafford, but Tywin was never a commander of the army Robb won. But, Robb proved to be excellent commander but worst politician, while Tywin is excellent politican and decent commander. You have to be both to win the war, and Tywin was, and Tywin won.

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Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2013, 05:10:26 pm
Robb is one of the biggest assholes in the series so far, and the one guy with the least possible claim to be king. people claim Robb had "honor" and shit like Ned, but really, he goes against his fathers wishes and tries to become king with no real claim on the throne besides "WOLVES AND SHIT! NORTH!", he betrays Walder Fray the second Walder isn't needed, and the only reason he punished that Karstagg guy was because he was afraid of what the Lannisters would do to his sisters. Glad that guy died.

Joffrey cutting of his fathers head after a promise was made to Ned that he'd go to the wall is reason enough. That is the event that sparked Rob being made King in the North, especially when coupled with the knowledge of Joffrey as the child of incest rather than the actual heir.
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Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2013, 05:22:03 pm
Robb doesn't claim anything but the North iirc, which makes him an independentist dipshit no better than Stromcloaks or something. He also rightfully refuses to bow down to Joffrey, because he knows Joffrey has 0 right to the throne, which is fine. I think we can all agree Joffrey is the number one douchebag no matter how you try to see it because he is about the only character in this book that is within the classical fantasy tropes. He has no motivation but evil itself, which makes him quite ridiculous and one of the weakest part of the books IMO.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2013, 05:26:50 pm
I don't think that's a weakness. His 'evilness' is still very human. He's a kid who has been handed power on a plate and has turned into a terraway brat with no one to control him until Tywin turns up. Seems pretty normal. His 'evil' fantasy's (abusing the whores) are the kind of thing that happens out in the real world all the time. So he comes across as very real to me.
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Post by: Freland on June 10, 2013, 05:38:13 pm
I LOVE to hate Joffrey especially in the show - I think Jack Gleason nails it.
Nearly everyone knows some teenage bully who did mean things to the other kids just because he could. Too bad this bully is a king.

And I don't even think it is stereoptypical. Standard fantasy doesn't have some teenage asshole on the throne. Daenerys and Jon Snow are our stereotypical heroes while still being rich characters.

Btw Robb didn't really want to become king. It were his bannermen who shouted "King of the North" when they didn't want to follow any of the kings after Ned died.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2013, 05:38:57 pm
Hes a spoiled little inbred twat. That's why he acts like he does D:
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Post by: Micah on June 10, 2013, 05:48:43 pm
If looking from a strategic PoV , i think one must admit , that Tywin is the best player in that game. He keeps all the others playing themselfes out and barely does a wrong turn himself. Also, all others are kinda restricting themselfes with the things "they are fighting for" ... honor, a god, money, revenge and such ... while Tywin keeps the strings of power tight in his hand.
Playing out the Starks now was quite a victory for him, since they where close to ally with .... the other guys there , which would have made them pretty dangerous.

edit:Joffrey is just the guy on the throne.. his unpredictable character isnt even a bad thing imo. Since Tywin also can controle him really well  :wink: (some of the best laughs for me  :mrgreen:)
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Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2013, 05:50:33 pm
Yes, of course the spoiled little brat part justifies some things but unlike other "evil" characters he never does anything good. Never. Not even once, and that's stereotypical (it also lets you think that there is one perspective in the storytelling that matters more than others). Even before becoming King he is a total douche. Even people like Cersei have a side story that kinda works.
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Post by: okiN on June 10, 2013, 05:57:37 pm
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Post by: Teeth on June 10, 2013, 06:08:34 pm
Robb doesn't claim anything but the North iirc, which makes him an independentist dipshit no better than Stromcloaks or something.
Well it is pretty clearly described that the Northerners are very different from the Southerners and they are not that connected with what goes on in Kingslanding or anything south of the Neck really. Them trying to go independent makes very much sense in my opinion, as the only reason they weren't were OP dragons.
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Post by: Tibe on June 10, 2013, 06:31:11 pm
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It was quite the laughable scene when Joffrey asked more stupid questions from Tywin from his bigass chair. And than Tywin just walked closer to him and he had that nervous look and started gulping like he was afraid his grandpa is gonna tear him a new one. I find it rather okay that he is a total douche all the time nonstop. It makes sense. He has always been rich, always gotten everything he wanted, doesnt know anything about the life outside, thinks that the title king means supreme god of everything. If you also got all that nonstop your entire life you would be the same. The totally douchebag part I get. But I find it acctually stereotypical that he is also stupid, unable to think ahead, easly manipulated and a complete coward all at the same time. I mean its like this character was written to have absolutely every bad nature a human could possibly have to make sure we would hate him enough. Because BY GOD if we didnt.....
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 10, 2013, 07:09:05 pm
Just watched episode 10. When Bran and his companions went north of the wall... i've never laughed so much in my entire life. 'I really do' and then they pulled him out on his wagon ^^
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Post by: Turboflex on June 10, 2013, 07:54:57 pm
Joffrey is my favourite character!
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Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2013, 08:58:43 pm
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Oops, my bad. Edited it out.

Just watched episode 10. When Bran and his companions went north of the wall... i've never laughed so much in my entire life. 'I really do' and then they pulled him out on his wagon ^^

The Bran chapters throughout book 2 and the first part of book 3 were probably the worst.

Well it is pretty clearly described that the Northerners are very different from the Southerners and they are not that connected with what goes on in Kingslanding or anything south of the Neck really. Them trying to go independent makes very much sense in my opinion, as the only reason they weren't were OP dragons.

By that logic each square inch of westeros should be independant :s
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Post by: Oberyn on June 10, 2013, 09:50:06 pm
I don't think that's a weakness. His 'evilness' is still very human. He's a kid who has been handed power on a plate and has turned into a terraway brat with no one to control him until Tywin turns up. Seems pretty normal. His 'evil' fantasy's (abusing the whores) are the kind of thing that happens out in the real world all the time. So he comes across as very real to me.

How is he normal? He's literally a sociopath. Ok, I guess sociopaths exist in RL, so it's...normal? I think it's hinted at very strongly in the books that Joffrey didn't just "turn" into a sadistic little cunt. Remember the story about the cat and it's litter of kittens, and why Robert punched him in the face? Torturing small, harmless mammals as a kid (with no realization you are doing anything wrong) is a pretty clear sign of being a friggin psychopath. No one needs to be taught to feel empathy on that level, it comes naturally.
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 10, 2013, 09:58:52 pm
If Twyin was so good at politics, you'd think he would have a proper heir secured. Instead he originally failed arranging marriages for Jaime and Cersei (one to Rhaegar, I forget who Jaime was supposed to get), horrifically abused his third child Tyrion who could've been an excellent heir, got outmaneuevered by the Mad King (who permatrolled Tywin) in having his oldest child appointed to the KG, and also managed to never remarry after his wife (who was probably raped repeatedly by Aeron and this possibly gave birth to Tyrion) instead wallowing in depression and having no more kids.

Also the idea that he was such a good hand who kept the realm stable is pretty funny, considering during his rule the entire kingdom collapsed into civil war and his royalist side got destroyed. His gruesome slaughter of the Dornish royals during the sack of King's Landing led to them hating Lannisters permanently. Tyrells are already usurping all the domestic power in the capital on the TV series even. Now he just massacred the high lords of the North, further undermining his respect and crediblity for him and the Lannister name for generations to come. This is just being an idiot obsessed with short-term goals, with long term political consequences that will ruin their house.

Commander wise, he lost a battle to fucking Edmure Tully, the stupidest most inept person in the series (in the books, in the TV show the Mountain was leading the battle) His campaign in both versions against the North was just him getting trounced every time.

All he has is a lot of money and a lack of ethics. He isn't very intelligent, and
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Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2013, 10:09:26 pm
How is he normal? He's literally a sociopath. Ok, I guess sociopaths exist in RL, so it's...normal? I think it's hinted at very strongly in the books that Joffrey didn't just "turn" into a sadistic little cunt. Remember the story about the cat and it's litter of kittens, and why Robert punched him in the face? Torturing small, harmless mammals as a kid (with no realization you are doing anything wrong) is a pretty clear sign of being a friggin psychopath. No one needs to be taught to feel empathy on that level, it comes naturally.

He's based in reality, that's what I meant. Kafein said 'He has no motivation but evil itself, which makes him quite ridiculous and one of the weakest part of the books IMO.' I strongly disagreed with this as he doesn't seem at all ridiculous to me. There are plenty of people in the real world who, given too much power with no control, would do similar things as well. Heck just look at half the dictators that have ever been around. I remember that story, but some kids do shit like that. If they aren't taught what's right and what's wrong, which lets face it, Joffrey never has been because he's Cersei's precious little boy and Robert didn't give a crap, nor Jamie. There are some parts in the book where it's quite obvious Joffrey is just looking for attention, mostly from his father. And it's no real surprise he's as fucked up as he is.

Actually in that respect just need to look at the Mountain and the bastard. Both fucked up for the sake of being fucked up.

If Twyin was so good at politics, you'd think he would have a proper heir secured. Instead he originally failed arranging marriages for Jaime and Cersei (one to Rhaegar, I forget who Jaime was supposed to get), horrifically abused his third child Tyrion who could've been an excellent heir, got outmaneuevered by the Mad King (who permatrolled Tywin) in having his oldest child appointed to the KG, and also managed to never remarry after his wife (who was probably raped repeatedly by Aeron and this possibly gave birth to Tyrion) instead wallowing in depression and having no more kids.

Also the idea that he was such a good hand who kept the realm stable is pretty funny, considering during his rule the entire kingdom collapsed into civil war and his royalist side got destroyed. His gruesome slaughter of the Dornish royals during the sack of King's Landing led to them hating Lannisters permanently. Tyrells are already usurping all the domestic power in the capital on the TV series even. Now he just massacred the high lords of the North, further undermining his respect and crediblity for him and the Lannister name for generations to come. This is just being an idiot obsessed with short-term goals, with long term political consequences that will ruin their house.

Commander wise, he lost a battle to fucking Edmure Tully, the stupidest most inept person in the series (in the books, in the TV show the Mountain was leading the battle) His campaign in both versions against the North was just him getting trounced every time.

All he has is a lot of money and a lack of ethics. He isn't very intelligent, and
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He was indeed a dick bag to Tyrion but in all fairness his wife died in childbirth giving birth to him, and a dwarf in this time period would have had literally no social acceptance whatsoever as you later learn about the lower born dwarfs in the book. Even less than now. For a powerful family to give birth to one would have been considered really unlucky/bad in a whole variety of ways. So in all honesty it's no surprise Tywin has always despised him. Not that I'm justifying it, just putting it in context.

Regardless, the other stuff is indeed correct. But at the current point he is the head of the most powerful family in Westros and has just gained control of huge swathes and knocked off his biggest opponent with some power play. If that isn't demonstration enough of his abilities I don't know what is. Furthermore, he wasn't the hand when Westeros descended into civil war. He gave it up after disagreement with the mad king. The mad king had a string of 'yes' men hands who he subsequently decided to knock off one after the other before finally doing what he did to the Starks. All of this was whilst Tywin was sulking in Casterly Rock and we all know he happily sat there until it was clear who the winner would be (also a smart move on his part).

The last bit in your spoiler I'll agree with definitely. He did lack for long term planning on that respect but will say no more because of spoilers  :)
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Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2013, 10:13:10 pm
Saddam Husseins oldest son was alot like Jeoffrey. Sick fuck. Read about him. Or watch the movie about him

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270262/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein

So yeah, saying that the Jeoffrey is acting "unrealistic" is wrong.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2013, 10:36:56 pm
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I used to dislike the Hound alot before. But he's becoming more and more badass.

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Post by: Kafein on June 10, 2013, 10:41:40 pm
It was pretty evident to me since the start that Sandor couldn't be a completely bad guy, for example when he talks to Sansa during the tournament.
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Post by: Teeth on June 10, 2013, 10:54:16 pm
Regardless, the other stuff is indeed correct. But at the current point he is the head of the most powerful family in Westros and has just gained control of huge swathes and knocked off his biggest opponent with some power play. If that isn't demonstration enough of his abilities I don't know what is.
Well, Tywin was born as the head of a family which literally sits on a mountain of gold, surely that starting advantage gets you in a rather easy position to navigate your way to power. The real bawses are Varys and Pinky who were born with nothing.

Anyone else finding the Hound pretty much the most intriguing character? I still haven't figured out what his deal is. Sometimes you see him comitting extremely cruel acts, only to then be a chivalrous bastard with a sense of righteousness. Pledged himself to the Lannisters, obedient as a dog to Joffrey, and then he gives a spot on analysis of the hypocrisy of knighthood. Dunno if it is bad writing but his character is surprising me all the time. I am curious what role he is going to play in the big picture, especially since Beric said that he should be left alive as apparently the god of light has a purpose for him.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2013, 11:10:40 pm
Well, Tywin was born as the head of a family which literally sits on a mountain of gold, surely that starting advantage gets you in a rather easy position to navigate your way to power. The real bawses are Varys and Pinky who were born with nothing.

Anyone else finding the Hound pretty much the most intriguing character? I still haven't figured out what his deal is. Sometimes you see him comitting extremely cruel acts, only to then be a chivalrous bastard with a sense of righteousness. Pledged himself to the Lannisters, obedient as a dog to Joffrey, and then he gives a spot on analysis of the hypocrisy of knighthood. Dunno if it is bad writing but his character is surprising me all the time. I am curious what role he is going to play in the big picture, especially since Beric said that he should be left alive as apparently the god of light has a purpose for him.

Well his father practically ruined the Lannisters. The Lannisters standing in the Kingdom now is pretty much entirely down to Tywin.

Hound is a wonderful character.
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Post by: Adamar on June 10, 2013, 11:28:21 pm
Jofrey is a psycopath, he was born that way. Upbringing is prety irrelevant at this level.
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 10, 2013, 11:39:05 pm
Jofrey is a psycopath, he was born that way. Upbringing is prety irrelevant at this level.

I don't think you understand much about psychology. Things like this is still being debated by professionals. Most mental illnesses seem to have a high correlation to things like childhood abuse or other bad parenting/environmental factors.
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Post by: Adamar on June 10, 2013, 11:54:29 pm
I don't think you understand much about psychology. Things like this is still being debated by professionals. Most mental illnesses seem to have a high correlation to things like childhood abuse or other bad parenting/environmental factors.

He butchered a preagnant cat in childhood.
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Post by: cmp on June 10, 2013, 11:59:41 pm
Guys, it's a fictional character.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 11, 2013, 12:00:44 am
He butchered a preagnant cat in childhood.

He was pretty much ignored from the day he was born by his father. He's a product of incest. Brought up in political mess of a court. Pampered as the first born heir ect ect. No doubt there is some level of inherent fuckedupness, but psychology plays a huge part. Studied child development in psychology and you'd be amazed what a little bit of neglect ect as a child can do to someone.
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Post by: Bjarky on June 11, 2013, 12:07:20 am
Guys, it's a fictional character.
Pfff, how dare u spout such reality to us. Spoiler pls  :evil:
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Post by: BASNAK on June 11, 2013, 12:11:08 am
Guys, it's a fictional character.

We're virgins we have nothing better to discuss
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Post by: Count_Curtis on June 11, 2013, 02:03:41 am
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Post by: Xant on June 11, 2013, 08:49:17 am
Guys, it's a fictional character.

Things like this is still being debated by professionals.
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Post by: Gnjus on June 11, 2013, 10:57:43 am
Some of Walder Frey's daughters are real gems, especially that blond one with long hair and her daddy's nose.
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Post by: Torben on June 11, 2013, 11:25:26 am
the hound is a great character, his motivations are very familiar and can be seen in many interesting people throughout history.


also,  thanks to him I started calling some chicks "little bird"  :mrgreen:
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Post by: BASNAK on June 11, 2013, 11:29:06 am
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Post by: Lars on June 11, 2013, 11:32:07 am
Some of Walder Frey's daughters are real gems, especially that blond one with long hair and her daddy's nose.


I knew you would have noticed that pearl of beauty.   
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 11, 2013, 11:45:33 am
Anyone else finding the Hound pretty much the most intriguing character? I still haven't figured out what his deal is. Sometimes you see him comitting extremely cruel acts, only to then be a chivalrous bastard with a sense of righteousness. Pledged himself to the Lannisters, obedient as a dog to Joffrey, and then he gives a spot on analysis of the hypocrisy of knighthood. Dunno if it is bad writing but his character is surprising me all the time. I am curious what role he is going to play in the big picture, especially since Beric said that he should be left alive as apparently the god of light has a purpose for him.

One of my favourite characters. His special relationship to Sansa is great in the Books and his torn character development is one of the best I've ever read. And they found a very fitting actor for his role in the show, but as with the whole thing there is of course less depth to it.
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Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2013, 11:48:12 am
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Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she
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Post by: Vibe on June 11, 2013, 11:51:48 am
o crap i just clicked those spoilers without even realizing they were actual spoilers

;_;

i will hate you forever Moncho even though it was my fault
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Post by: Gnjus on June 11, 2013, 11:51:55 am

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Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2013, 11:58:23 am
o crap i just clicked those spoilers without even realizing they were actual spoilers

;_;

i will hate you forever Moncho even though it was my fault
I thought of making a spoiler mountain to climb, but thought that anyone with a little head would take the hint with those 2...
It says it pretty clearly
Adding a few, dont want to spoil anyone else's fun :(
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Post by: Freland on June 11, 2013, 12:24:31 pm
o crap i just clicked those spoilers without even realizing they were actual spoilers

;_;

I feel with you because the mighty chadz himself spoiled that for me before I finished the fifth book. I also couldn't resist to open a spoiler - this why I won't read any internet boards when "Winds Of Winter" will be released in 2022  :wink:
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Post by: Overdriven on June 11, 2013, 12:28:08 pm
Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she
(speculation, MAJOR SPOILER, do not read if you have not finished the fifth published book)
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Post by: Vibe on June 11, 2013, 12:31:01 pm
So, which book is the HBO series currently at then
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Thovex on June 11, 2013, 12:34:09 pm
I thought of making a spoiler mountain to climb, but thought that anyone with a little head would take the hint with those 2...
It says it pretty clearly
Adding a few, dont want to spoil anyone else's fun :(

I did exactly the same thing Vibe did (Except only click once) and then there was a 2nd spoiler, fuck yes I love you for having 2!  :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 11, 2013, 12:34:38 pm
ca. 3/4 of the third book. Won't be 1 Book = 1 Season anymore from now on. So 2 to maximum 3 seasons before they catch up.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Corwin on June 11, 2013, 02:17:45 pm
About the last book:
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Post by: Overdriven on June 11, 2013, 02:25:47 pm
About the last book:
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2013, 02:31:26 pm
Maybe that conversation should be brought to another thread?
I am all for it, but look at the title of this one, and we are hijacking it already.
As long as the title states it clearly.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2013, 04:01:35 pm
The 3rd and 4th book happen "simultaneously" (i.e. in the same time period, but it's not mirrored so the beg of book 3 is the same time as the beg of book 4, and the endings aren't necessarily at the same exact date), they just have different characters. 

So I was under the impression the 3rd and 4th season of the TV show would be encompassing both the 3rd and 4th book at the same time
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 11, 2013, 09:33:16 pm
This is exactly how I feel about acquiring Game of Thrones:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

HBO, I'm trying to give you my money, why won't you take it? 

I refuse to wait until the season's over to buy it on DVD, I refuse to wait years for it to come out on Netflix.  I will never again have a cable or satellite tv program subscription.  If you want to offer a subscription to your content online, I'll gladly hand over money to watch.  I'll gladly pay per episode to watch. 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 11, 2013, 11:14:09 pm
I feel this is relevant.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 11, 2013, 11:21:02 pm
This is exactly how I feel about acquiring Game of Thrones:

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

HBO, I'm trying to give you my money, why won't you take it? 

I refuse to wait until the season's over to buy it on DVD, I refuse to wait years for it to come out on Netflix.  I will never again have a cable or satellite tv program subscription.  If you want to offer a subscription to your content online, I'll gladly hand over money to watch.  I'll gladly pay per episode to watch.

In germany it's even worse. There is simply no other way than to wait 1 year for the dvd or pirate it if you want to watch it in original language.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 11, 2013, 11:44:58 pm
fuck,  just pirat it and buy a few more set of books so the author gets paid.  use the book as gifts to nonbelievers,  who themselves at some point will spend money on the series,  helping the author even more.

in the end,  pirating is the only rational and ethically viable option.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 12, 2013, 12:18:35 am
I pirate it usually and then buy the blu-rays later. Though I watch it with my Dad sometimes and it comes through on Sky Movies so all good there.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Adamar on June 12, 2013, 01:35:02 pm
Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she

Because Giving birth to demons and burning people alive is a good thing.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 12, 2013, 01:47:25 pm
Yeah Melisandre knows men. That's about as innovative as she gets. It wouldn't surprise me if something comes back to bite her in the arse. Seems to me she just likes control and is using Stannis for whatever reason.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 12, 2013, 01:58:27 pm
Because Giving birth to demons and burning people alive is a good thing.
I did not say she was "good", noone is in the entire series, they all follow their own (selfish) interests, using methods like assassination, betrayal and double crossing at every step, not fulfilling agreements and so on.
An honorable man is a dead man, as was clearly shown in the first season. It is a world of vipers, self interest and power.
After all, "when you play a game of thrones, you win or you die", and nobody wants to die.

I said that I like what she is trying to accomplish, which right now I am not sure if they have mentioned it already in the series, have not watched the finale yet.

It is not only the knowledge of men (which is a big tool as it is a game of men and women), she also has the fire visions and other tools from the Red God, which might help her. And of course, like any other character, she will probably have big trouble with a few things.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 12, 2013, 02:13:37 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 12, 2013, 02:36:27 pm
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Yes, I don't think she misreads them so much as purposefully misguides certain people.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kafein on June 12, 2013, 02:50:13 pm
Arguing one shouldn't pirate because some of the money you'd otherwise pay may end up in the hands of the author is like arguing you should buy designer clothes to save the poor Bangladeshi.

If you actually want to reward the author, pirate the show and donate to him.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on June 12, 2013, 02:55:15 pm
Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend. :)

If you havn't already done so - feast your eyes on "Tudors" and "Borgias"!

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Holliday Grainger as Lucrezia Borgia

Mmm-mm-m... Not since Scarlett Johansson in "Girl with a Pearl Earring", have i witnessed a beauty so innocent and pure! Watch Borgias damn it! And forget all this throne-nonsense :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 12, 2013, 03:02:45 pm
Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend. :)

If you havn't already done so - feast your eyes on "Tudors" and "Borgias"!


Borgias is a brilliant show (Jeremy Irons is one of my favourite actors). Tudors I was never a major fan of but my family like it.

I shall choose to ignore the first part of what you wrote.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 12, 2013, 03:53:02 pm
Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend. :)

what
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 12, 2013, 03:57:01 pm
I've watched all of the Tudors and very much enjoyed it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 12, 2013, 04:21:34 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tor! on June 12, 2013, 05:01:14 pm
I can recommend the Borgias as well, to quench your thirst while you wait for GoT :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 12, 2013, 05:13:46 pm
This thread is dark and full of spoilers.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tom Cruise on June 13, 2013, 08:28:25 am
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 13, 2013, 11:46:39 am
That was actually surprisingly good  :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: bagge on June 13, 2013, 05:52:12 pm
I can recommend the Borgias as well, to quench your thirst while you wait for GoT :wink:

+1 Good show. 8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on June 13, 2013, 05:58:50 pm
That was actually surprisingly good  :lol:

It was better than it has a right to be  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 13, 2013, 06:43:32 pm
Came across this which isn't bad:


They have a couple of other good ones like walking dead:

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 14, 2013, 01:36:52 am
He is just writing it according to tv-ratings

most ignorant thing said this thread, congrats.

I will check out borgias, I hear good thinks altho renaissance is around when history gets lame imo
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: PJ1020 on June 18, 2013, 04:05:34 am
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on June 19, 2013, 10:41:06 pm
Any of you cretins played Clash of Kings mod?

http://www.moddb.com/mods/a-clash-of-kings
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Corwin on June 19, 2013, 10:48:30 pm
I just finished watching the most amazing show - House of Cards. Best stuff since long ago.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 19, 2013, 10:49:46 pm
I just finished watching the most amazing show - House of Cards. Best stuff since long ago.

I've heard a lot about that already, will watch soon.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 19, 2013, 11:40:46 pm
wtf season finished already?  how long till new one?  aaahrg!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on June 20, 2013, 12:11:55 am
I just finished watching the most amazing show - House of Cards. Best stuff since long ago.
Thanks for the reference, looks interesting, not sure if I should watch this or Boardwalk Empire first.

And yes, both Borgias and the Tudor's are both pretty good historical series, though not on Rome's level.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on June 20, 2013, 12:27:46 am
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I'm about to start watching Hannibal, a lot of praises about it flying around (+Mikkelsen).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 20, 2013, 12:32:31 am
This season could've used more gay sex scenes, then again, Renly and his boyfriend weren't very sexy anyhow.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rogue on June 20, 2013, 01:56:04 pm
I can recommend the Borgias as well, to quench your thirst while you wait for GoT :wink:

Indeed. The first season was a bit slow, although the closest one to history. They deviated a lot more with the later seasons but nonetheless they were better overall. Loved the last episode of season 3, finally Cesare Borgia is taking off. But guess what, shows been canceled, 2h movie to wrap it up also canceled...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 20, 2013, 02:26:11 pm
Casting for Season 4 is underway - shooting will start at July 8th.

Confirmed to be in Season 4
Styr, Magnar of Thenn (a wilding leader int Mance's army)
Mace Tyrell (father of Loras and Margery, warden of the south)
Oberyn Martell (brother of Elia Martell who was former crown prince Rhaegar Targaryen's wife)

I hope they cast Oberyn well.

source http://winteriscoming.net/2013/05/grrm-confirms-red-viper-mace-magnar-being-cast/


I wonder if they will cast any of the Greyjoys who we haven't seen yet. Damphair could probably be cut although he is a POV character in the book. Euron could be merged with Victarion to make it less complex.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Thovex on June 20, 2013, 02:27:07 pm
So the new season will start on 8 July or?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 20, 2013, 02:29:44 pm
So the new season will start on 8 July or?

Filming will start then yes
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2013, 02:31:34 pm
I hope they cast Oberyn well.

I wonder if they will cast any of the Greyjoys who we haven't seen yet. Damphair could probably be cut although he is a POV character in the book. Euron could be merged with Victarion to make it less complex.

Yeah there is a certain scene with Oberyn I'm really looking forward to as I'm sure others are. I'll be pissed if they cast him badly but so far they've done a great job casting.

Also yeah, the Greyjoys should be interesting.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kafein on June 20, 2013, 02:41:55 pm
It's funny how the most correctly detailed parts of the series wrt the books are the sex scenes.

Also they already achieved maximum casting quality by making Boromir die in the first season.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 20, 2013, 02:48:48 pm
I think Margery's and Joffrey'S wedding should be in the next season, shouldn't it? One big wedding per season.

I think the next season will probably be broadcast around april 2014. Plenty of time to finally read the books...

And I disagree on the Greyjoys. I found their plotline in the books rather boring.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2013, 02:57:27 pm
Yeah White Wedding will be next season for sure.

Well judging by the current timetable it's been aprilish every year. So yeah I imagine it'll be the same.
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Post by: Adraman on June 22, 2013, 07:33:13 am
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Post by: Freland on June 25, 2013, 10:34:44 am
Owen Teals will be returning as Alliser Thorne for Season 4.
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2013/06/game-of-thrones-actor-owen-teale-returning-in-season-4-alliser-thorne-and-more-characters-to-remembe.html
He is the trainer of the Night Watch recruits and wasn't exactly best friends with Jon Snow in Season 1.
I hope Janos Slynt will also appear again. He is the former captain of Kings Landing's city guard who was sent to the wall by Tyrion as a punishment.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 25, 2013, 10:54:04 am
I would love to have season 1 mountain back! Not gonna happen, though  :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on June 25, 2013, 02:09:33 pm
Owen Teals will be returning as Alliser Thorne for Season 4.

His character is one of the prime examples of shitwriting in the show, on pair with 'french sleeves' Loras, Sansa and Shae pointless scenes. He was sent to King's Landing like 27 episodes ago and they, well, forgot about him.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: cmp on June 25, 2013, 02:15:50 pm
His character is one of the prime examples of shitwriting in the show, on pair with 'french sleeves'.

*fringed sleeves
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 25, 2013, 02:51:44 pm
His character is one of the prime examples of shitwriting in the show, on pair with 'french sleeves'. He was sent to King's Landing like 27 episodes ago and they, well, forgot about him.

Well to be fair it is quite the same in the books. It's something George Martin likes to do.
He even gives major characters long breaks like Theon absent from Storm Of Swords or Jaime absent from A Clash Of Kings.

I'm just glad when they get those support actors back when they are needed. I just hate it when they cut characters which were introduced in previos seasons - like Greatjon Umber being cut after season 1.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tot. on June 25, 2013, 03:12:22 pm
Well to be fair it is quite the same in the books. It's something George Martin likes to do.

It generally is, since Martin usually either goes with tons of filler to justify 'happy accidents' or just straight out deus ex machina, but in this case it's not. In the books Thorne arrives in King's Landing a bit after Joffrey is crowned.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 25, 2013, 03:41:29 pm
Yeah you're right - I somehow seemed to remember that he actually arrived in King's Landing in the show too but my memories must have played me a trick ;-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 25, 2013, 04:04:14 pm
Stannis just found out about the situation at the wall, I can imagine that Alliser Thorne will show up at King's Landing now (if he was going to ever).  But his going to King's Landing isn't really that crucial to the story since they just ignore him anyways.  It's supposed to signify how important and serious a situation it is for them to have sent their old Master at Arms, but I still think the end result (they brush him off) is enough to not necessarily include him in the show.

Just checked a game of thrones wiki and it says Alliser Thorne will be back in season 4...so maybe I was right (they were just waiting until now)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on June 25, 2013, 04:13:44 pm
Stannis just found out about the situation at the wall, I can imagine that Alliser Thorne will show up at King's Landing now (if he was going to ever).  But his going to King's Landing isn't really that crucial to the story since they just ignore him anyways.  It's supposed to signify how important and serious a situation it is for them to have sent their old Master at Arms, but I still think the end result (they brush him off) is enough to not necessarily include him in the show.

Just checked a game of thrones wiki and it says Alliser Thorne will be back in season 4...so maybe I was right (they were just waiting until now)
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 25, 2013, 05:26:35 pm
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 26, 2013, 08:00:35 am
Metal Heads Unite!

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Post by: Freland on June 26, 2013, 09:42:18 am
And some more actors returning for season 4, wo were not in season 3:

Kate Dickie as Lysa Arryn (Catelyns deranged sister)
Dominic Carter as Janos Slynt (former city guard captain of King's Landing, now part of the night watch)

http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/slynt-lysa-and-rorge-set-to-return-for-s4/

Also Rorge is returning but I doubt show viewers still know who he is.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 26, 2013, 05:23:22 pm


Spoiler alert...
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Post by: enigmatic_stranger on June 28, 2013, 09:39:21 pm
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Post by: Freland on June 29, 2013, 06:13:18 pm
Pedro Pascal has been cast as Oberyn Martell. Never heard of him...

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But he comes close to what I envisioned him to be.


http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/red-viper-cast/
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Post by: Oberyn on June 29, 2013, 06:22:11 pm
I guess he could make it work. I'd always pictured the dornish as cultural stand-in for a kind of meditteranean, moorish spain/north africa type ethnicity. Oberyn looks more like Oded Fehr or Cliff Simon in my head:

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Post by: Kafein on June 29, 2013, 07:41:01 pm
I'm sorry but that previous post wasn't a spoiler. You were discussing events after that.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 29, 2013, 08:31:59 pm
I'm sorry but that previous post wasn't a spoiler. You were discussing events after that.

How is it not a spoiler?

Spoiler Kafein was talking about
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Post by: Franke on June 30, 2013, 12:31:50 am
Pedro Pascal has been cast as Oberyn Martell. Never heard of him...

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But he comes close to what I envisioned him to be.


http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/red-viper-cast/

Looks a tad too young for my taste, still definitely the right direction. Will there already be any Dornish women?
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Post by: pingpong on June 30, 2013, 11:08:02 pm
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HAHAHAAHAAA LMAO!!!

most def the coolest sidekick characters in the show.

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 30, 2013, 11:11:45 pm
just so you know: he is not really a Stark guy but the brother of Catelyn and Edmures uncle, Brynden Tully called the Blackfish.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kafein on June 30, 2013, 11:17:11 pm
GOT shares a character with The Binding of Isaac

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 30, 2013, 11:20:16 pm
We don't know yet if that character is in the show.
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Post by: pingpong on June 30, 2013, 11:29:44 pm
just so you know: he is not really a Stark guy but the brother of Catelyn and Edmures uncle, Brynden Tully called the Blackfish.
Gotcha, im only going with HBO series knowledge here,  well i hope series 4 will bring them to limelight more often now that
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Post by: Xant on July 01, 2013, 02:36:50 pm
I can easily imagine Pedro as Oberyn. Good choice.
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Post by: Count_Curtis on July 07, 2013, 11:44:44 pm
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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on July 08, 2013, 12:06:31 am
Saddam Husseins oldest son was alot like Jeoffrey. Sick fuck. Read about him. Or watch the movie about him

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270262/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein

So yeah, saying that the Jeoffrey is acting "unrealistic" is wrong.

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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on July 08, 2013, 12:49:17 am
“If you spend time in a mental hospital you pick up the drill. You could pass as an
orderly, get a job doing it when you got out,” Graham said.
“Want some dinner?”
“I’ll wait till later. I get dumb after I eat.”
Leaving, Crawford looked back at Graham from the gloom of the doorway. He
didn’t care for what he saw. The hanging lights deepened the hollows in Graham’s
face as he studied with the victims staring at him from the photographs. The room
smelled of desperation.
Would it be better for the case to put Graham back on the street? Crawford couldn’t
afford to let him burn himself out in here for nothing. But for something?
Crawford’s excellent administrative instincts were not tempered by mercy. They
told him to leave Graham alone.
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Post by: Henry_Broodsonson on July 08, 2013, 12:57:32 am
“This suggests that while healthy people recruit a specialized and focused network of brain areas for specific memory functions, schizophrenic patients seem to rely on a more diffuse and wider network to achieve the same goal.”
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Post by: Tibe on July 08, 2013, 06:15:30 am
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Post by: Freland on July 18, 2013, 05:35:02 pm
The show has been nominated for 17 Emmys:

    Outstanding Drama Series
    Emilia Clarke as Supporting Actress
    Peter Dinklage as Supporting Actor
    Diana Rigg as Guest Actress
    Writing in a Drama series for The Rains of Castamere (David Benioff & D.B. Weiss)
    Art Direction, single camera (Valar Dohaeris, Kissed by Fire)
    Oustanding Casting for a Drama
    Cinematography, single camera (Mhysa)
    Costumes (Walk of Punishment)
    Editing, single camera (The Rains of Castamere)
    Hairstyling, single camera (Second Sons)
    Makeup, single camera, non-prosthetic (Kissed by Fire)
    Makeup, prosthetic (Valar Dohaeris)
    Sound Editing (And Now his Watch is Ended)
    Sound Mixing, one hour (And Now his Watch is Ended)
    Special Visual Effects (Valar Dohaeris)
    Interactive Program for GoT S3 Enhanced Digital Experience

Wrong actors nominated? Jamie? Catelyn?...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Lannistark on July 18, 2013, 05:50:37 pm
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 18, 2013, 05:56:46 pm
^he be lying
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Post by: Bjarky on July 18, 2013, 08:33:48 pm
its a good ending though ^^
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on July 21, 2013, 12:52:18 pm
Funny scene which has been cut out of season 3. This has been shown on the Comi-Com 2013:
Quality isn't that great but at least subtitles are available.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 23, 2013, 09:11:32 pm
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Post by: Tom Cruise on July 25, 2013, 03:13:00 pm
Jon Snow may be a man of the North. But he's not afraid to go down south.

Jon Snow know two things...nothing and how to eat pussy.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on July 30, 2013, 09:10:49 am
It's time for casting news again.

Mace Tyrell, Lord of highgarden, father of Margaery and Loras
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http://winteriscoming.net/2013/07/roger-ashton-griffiths-cast-as-mace-tyrell/

I always imagined him to be fatter and maybe a little younger.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 30, 2013, 04:04:55 pm
It's time for casting news again.

Mace Tyrell, Lord of highgarden, father of Margaery and Loras
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http://winteriscoming.net/2013/07/roger-ashton-griffiths-cast-as-mace-tyrell/

I always imagined him to be fatter and maybe a little younger.

Yeah I always imagined him fatter, and he's supposed to be an awesome military/fighting guy...he seems way too "infirm" to be playing mace tyrell..
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Post by: Ninja_Khorin on July 30, 2013, 04:17:02 pm
Only one who thinks Mace Tyrell is an awesome military/fighting guy is Mace Tyrell, and I'm not even sure of that.
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Post by: Oberyn on July 30, 2013, 05:29:10 pm
Yeah you may be thinking of Garlas or whatever his name is, the brother of Loras and Margaery. But I don't think he even exists in the TV version. Mace Tyrell is repeatedly described as a fat idiot who THINKS he's a military genius.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 30, 2013, 06:57:40 pm
Yeah you may be thinking of Garlas or whatever his name is, the brother of Loras and Margaery. But I don't think he even exists in the TV version. Mace Tyrell is repeatedly described as a fat idiot who THINKS he's a military genius.

Oh ok, I thought he was somewhat skilled militarily, I know who he is and the lands he controls, I think I was confusing his physical abilities/traits with Samwell Tarly's father, Randyll (I think maybe he's the tough guy I'm thinking of)
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Post by: Franke on August 08, 2013, 01:28:39 am
Yes, it'S definitely Randyll Tarly who is the military genius.

Mace Tyrell failed at the (1st) siege of Storm's End against Stannis, they mention it plenty of times in the book. Still I imagined him as an able plotter, trying to increase House Tyrell's influence in King's Landing.
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But maybe that'S rather the work of his mother-in-law, the Queen of Thorns...
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Post by: Tomas_of_Miles on August 09, 2013, 03:37:54 pm
Oberyn ain't white.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 15, 2013, 09:27:26 pm
NECRO BUMP!

Someone recommending (can't go through 72 pages) another book since I finished reading all of the Song of Ice and Fire books.  They said it was similar (very long novels) but had some bits of fantasy in it. 

Anyone got any recommendations on books that may be similar to these?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on November 15, 2013, 09:44:16 pm
Wheel of time?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 15, 2013, 09:45:20 pm
Wheel of time?

Yeah that was it (Osiris mentioned in IRC).

He also suggested Bernard Cornwell books (Saxon series is what I'm going to give a try I think).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Falka on November 15, 2013, 10:13:41 pm
Anyone got any recommendations on books that may be similar to these?

The Accursed Kings
is a sequence of seven historical novels by Maurice Druon, of the Académie française, about French kings. The novels take place during the reigns of the last five Direct Capetian kings and the first two Valois kings, from Philip the Fair to John II. The plot revolves around the attempts of Robert of Artois to reclaim the county of Artois from his aunt Mahaut.

I remember them as pretty damn good, but have read them when I was really young, so dunno...

Witcher's saga
First 3 parts, The Last Wish, Blood of Elves and Times of Contempt were translated into english. In a few countries Witcher's saga was elected as best fantasy books ever, even over LotR.

First Law
Joe Abercrombie

Mistborn
B.Sanderson


Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalam on November 17, 2013, 11:45:59 pm
The Accursed Kings
is a sequence of seven historical novels by Maurice Druon, of the Académie française, about French kings. The novels take place during the reigns of the last five Direct Capetian kings and the first two Valois kings, from Philip the Fair to John II. The plot revolves around the attempts of Robert of Artois to reclaim the county of Artois from his aunt Mahaut.

I remember them as pretty damn good, but have read them when I was really young, so dunno...

Witcher's saga
First 3 parts, The Last Wish, Blood of Elves and Times of Contempt were translated into english. In a few countries Witcher's saga was elected as best fantasy books ever, even over LotR.

First Law
Joe Abercrombie

Mistborn
B.Sanderson

Anything by Joe Abercrombie, though the latter stand-alone sequels are an easier read than the First Law trilogy, which isn't as polished. Heroes and Best Served Cold were amazing.

I hear Malice by John Gwynne is similar, too. Richard Morgan's Steel Remains is something else to look at, if you want to head into the direction of shocking violence and sex.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on November 18, 2013, 12:08:12 am
It's too bad that Abercrombie writes unrealistic feminist worlds, likes having protagonists that are female and somehow better fighters than men.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalam on November 18, 2013, 01:34:18 am
It's too bad that Abercrombie writes unrealistic feminist worlds, likes having protagonists that are female and somehow better fighters than men.

I feed trolls often. Everyone needs to eat.

A) It's fantasy, so culture can be whatever the author wants it to be. Women in masculine professions are not unheard of in history.
B) I know plenty of females who can, without a doubt, kick our asses.
C) Pretty sure his best fighter, on the nerd ultimate arena scale, is a man.
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Post by: Tot. on November 18, 2013, 01:47:08 am
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on November 18, 2013, 02:13:11 am
I feed trolls often. Everyone needs to eat.

A) It's fantasy, so culture can be whatever the author wants it to be. Women in masculine professions are not unheard of in history.
B) I know plenty of females who can, without a doubt, kick our asses.
C) Pretty sure his best fighter, on the nerd ultimate arena scale, is a man.
It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.

And no, you don't know a single female who could kick my ass.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalam on November 18, 2013, 03:34:33 am
It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.

And no, you don't know a single female who could kick my ass.

While some of them are married or in long-term relationships, there are more who are not.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on November 18, 2013, 04:10:17 am
While some of them are married or in long-term relationships, there are more who are not.
That's nice, but I'm not looking for a date at the moment.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on November 20, 2013, 07:00:23 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on January 03, 2014, 10:44:20 pm
So which Gregor "The Mountain" Clegane looks best?

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I'd say Season 1 still looks most fitting because he looks the meanest but the season 3 actor has at least the frame to be a credible "Mountain". Season 2 mountain is just not muscular and badass enough.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Rumblood on January 03, 2014, 11:08:52 pm
Season 1! The others are not even CLOSE.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on January 03, 2014, 11:18:12 pm
Yeah i agree 1 is for me the best contender.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Osiris on January 03, 2014, 11:30:44 pm
It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.

And no, you don't know a single female who could kick my ass.

Xant knows all! Xant the unbeatable by females! Xant also knows if you know any Female MMA fighters
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 03, 2014, 11:31:08 pm
Season 1, he seemed to tower over the others, and had the general "angry/ruthless/hair trigger temperament" of Gregor.  If the 4th season guy wasn't smiling he might be able to pull it up though.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on January 03, 2014, 11:33:01 pm
Xant knows all! Xant the unbeatable by females! Xant also knows if you know any Female MMA fighters
Xan't doesn't know if he knows any female MMA fighters.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on January 03, 2014, 11:51:47 pm
Season 4 Gregor looks like a gay viking
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: enigmatic_stranger on January 06, 2014, 09:25:06 pm
http://imgur.com/a/fK85C/layout/blog
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Nightmare798 on January 06, 2014, 09:50:26 pm
You little nerds need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of medieval knight or whatever nerd shit you little aspies do.

You know that you also registered on this forum, which makes it safe to assume you also bought and play MaB:W-C-rpg (because what the fuck would you be doing here otherwise?), which makes you a hypocrite and a colossal moron?

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on January 06, 2014, 11:56:01 pm
MaB:W-C-rpg? So unique.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Tibe on January 07, 2014, 12:22:08 am
You know that you also registered on this forum, which makes it safe to assume you also bought and play MaB:W-C-rpg (because what the fuck would you be doing here otherwise?), which makes you a hypocrite and a colossal moron?

Good lord man, you replied to a post that was written more then 2 years ago by a dude who hasnt been online for more then 1 and a half years. You are not very good at this internetthing, are you?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on January 07, 2014, 12:24:05 am
Who even checks page 5 of a 74 page thread?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones.
Post by: Xant on January 07, 2014, 01:19:33 am
Good lord man, you replied to a post that was written more then 2 years ago by a dude who hasnt been online for more then 1 and a half years. You are not very good at this internetthing, are you?
It's not like Nightmare is exactly known for his smarts.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on January 10, 2014, 08:42:27 pm
Trailer for season 4 will be out in 2 days. First 2 second snippet can be seen here. Everyone who read the books will immediately know who's fighting - can't wait
https://vine.co/v/h3j0E330FvQ (https://vine.co/v/h3j0E330FvQ)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tom Cruise on January 13, 2014, 03:07:42 am
IT HAS ARRIVED!

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Dach on January 13, 2014, 03:21:39 am
DON'T WATCH IT.... it's just a trick to torture you...

And I couldn't resist... the fool I am.  :?

3 months..... 3 DAMN months... ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG  :shock:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 13, 2014, 07:09:53 pm
Sometimes it's hard for me to recall if something was in the tv show, or read in the book.  Or hard to remember where the tv show is at in relation to the book.  Especially so with some altered time lines, and additions/omissions from the book.  Looks like I'll have to start re-watching all 3 seasons again :x
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on January 27, 2014, 06:36:02 pm

http://www.zimbio.com/quiz/hpbWxCCmzMR/Game+Thrones+Character

They say I'm like Tyrion. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 27, 2014, 07:29:41 pm
http://www.zimbio.com/quiz/hpbWxCCmzMR/Game+Thrones+Character

They say I'm like Tyrion. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing...
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I think it's a good thing.

I got Jaime (I don't like him in the beginning of the book/tv show, but he grew on me)...thankfully I don't have a sister.  I also am a pompous jerk IRL (a lot less as I get older), and was always naturally talented at sports and with my hand-eye coordination, so I think it's a pretty good fit.

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Post by: Kalp on January 27, 2014, 07:31:25 pm
damn  :oops:

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Post by: Franke on January 27, 2014, 08:10:46 pm
damn  :oops:

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She is one of my favourite characters, although her storyline becomes rather boring later (hope they do not regard this a spoiler). It could've get worse for you. I wonder if they have Hodor in there, too
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Post by: Moncho on January 27, 2014, 08:28:02 pm
Drogo for me
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Post by: Xant on January 27, 2014, 08:31:38 pm
and was always naturally talented at sports
laughed out loud
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 27, 2014, 08:34:36 pm
She is one of my favourite characters, although her storyline becomes rather boring later (hope they do not regard this a spoiler). It could've get worse for you. I wonder if they have Hodor in there, too

Could be regarded as a spoiler:

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Now this is a book spoiler:

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Post by: Xant on January 27, 2014, 08:56:44 pm

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There's no need for "from what I can gather" there
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Post by: Franke on January 28, 2014, 10:28:39 am
Oh, and Huseby, please make sure your little one does not become a Joffrey later on...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 28, 2014, 03:50:56 pm
There's no need for "from what I can gather" there

My memory is kind of hazy, thought it was possible that they were training her for other areas of potential use, but that seemed the most plausible
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Post by: Perverz on January 28, 2014, 04:47:29 pm
damn  :oops:

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same here :oops: :oops:
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Post by: Tom Cruise on January 28, 2014, 05:05:31 pm
same here :oops: :oops:

Nothing to be ashamed about. Its what I got. Arya is a little badass  :twisted:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Latrinenkobold on January 28, 2014, 05:20:08 pm
heh i´m Arya if i answer honestly and im Joffrey if i answer everything the opposite way

i like it
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on January 28, 2014, 05:31:24 pm
Ha i got Jamie which is in fact my name, obviously some kind of spiritual link.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on January 28, 2014, 05:37:52 pm
I got Jaime too, but my name's Lee so I'll cut you cunt.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on January 28, 2014, 05:38:46 pm
Way to break my heart you bellend
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on January 28, 2014, 05:45:16 pm
I'll break you with my bellend.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalam on January 29, 2014, 12:53:40 am
I got Tyrion, though I often feel like Podrick RL.

Let's talk L + R=J, gaiz. It's just the sort of thing that would fit a romance of this sort (more modern Arthurian than anything else), so it's a neat theory.

Book spoilers, I guess.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Dach on January 29, 2014, 02:51:01 am
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Going to die soon I guess?!  :o
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Casimir on January 29, 2014, 07:19:16 am
I'll break you with my bellend.

you're nothing and nether will be.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on January 31, 2014, 11:04:08 am
The recasted Daario Naharis

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Source with more spoiler free season 4 pictures http://winteriscoming.net/2014/01/hbo-releases-first-batch-of-season-4-photos/ (http://winteriscoming.net/2014/01/hbo-releases-first-batch-of-season-4-photos/)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on January 31, 2014, 02:08:28 pm
New Daario doesn't look as annoying and bundle of sticksy as the old one, I like.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on January 31, 2014, 03:10:33 pm
Well then he fitted perfectly because book Daario is the most annoying person east of Westeros  :)
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Post by: Gurnisson on January 31, 2014, 03:34:22 pm
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on January 31, 2014, 04:08:41 pm
Well then he fitted perfectly because book Daario is the most annoying person east of Westeros  :)

I thought the old Daario was pretty much spot on for how I imagined him in the books.  This new recast doesn't look anything similar to the old character, so how would people even know this new guy is Daario (unless they go around calling him by his name a few times)?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on January 31, 2014, 04:13:27 pm
oh shit

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Angantyr on February 03, 2014, 12:50:54 pm
Daario needs his blue beard and golden moustachios from the books, I always thought. Otherwise he was pretty spot on type-wise.
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Post by: Tagora on February 03, 2014, 02:16:56 pm
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I guess CrazyCracka and I have more in common than 420blazeit.
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Post by: Bittersteel on February 03, 2014, 02:24:28 pm
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That's so not what i went for.
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Post by: Nightmare798 on February 03, 2014, 03:06:26 pm
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Slightly full of it is a serious understatement here...
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Post by: pingpong on February 03, 2014, 04:04:50 pm
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yeah close enough!

if somebody gets hodor i + he, just for pity  :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on February 04, 2014, 12:20:06 am
It's too bad that Abercrombie writes unrealistic feminist worlds, likes having protagonists that are female and somehow better fighters than men.

And as it turns out, they aren't even equal thinkers:

 In 1994, Lynn concluded in a meta-analysis that an IQ difference of roughly 4 points does appear from age 16 and onwards, but detection of this had been complicated by the faster rate of maturation of girls up to that point, which compensates for the IQ difference. This reassessment of male-female IQ has been bolstered with meta-analyses with Paul Irwing in 2004[45] and 2005[46] which found a difference of 4.6 to 5 IQ points [5].They saw no evidence that this is due primarily to the male advantage in spatial visualization, and concluded that some research previously presented as showing that there are no sex differences actually demonstrates the opposite. A further study of 1,258 11-year-olds in Mauritius derived a difference of more than 6 IQ points.[47]

Lynn has written that "at the near-genius level (an IQ of 145), brilliant men outnumber brilliant women by 8 to one. That's statistics, not sexism" and "When it comes to IQ, men and women - at least once they've gained adulthood - simply are not equal."[49]
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tagora on February 04, 2014, 12:47:03 am
And as it turns out, they aren't even equal thinkers:

 In 1994, Lynn concluded in a meta-analysis that an IQ difference of roughly 4 points does appear from age 16 and onwards, but detection of this had been complicated by the faster rate of maturation of girls up to that point, which compensates for the IQ difference. This reassessment of male-female IQ has been bolstered with meta-analyses with Paul Irwing in 2004[45] and 2005[46] which found a difference of 4.6 to 5 IQ points [5].They saw no evidence that this is due primarily to the male advantage in spatial visualization, and concluded that some research previously presented as showing that there are no sex differences actually demonstrates the opposite. A further study of 1,258 11-year-olds in Mauritius derived a difference of more than 6 IQ points.[47]

Lynn has written that "at the near-genius level (an IQ of 145), brilliant men outnumber brilliant women by 8 to one. That's statistics, not sexism" and "When it comes to IQ, men and women - at least once they've gained adulthood - simply are not equal."[49]

I've heard of similar things before but I haven't looked into it much myself.  Do you have any articles or studies you could share?  I'd like to know more.  Also, what wikipedia article are you quoting?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on February 04, 2014, 12:49:00 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn#Sex_differences_in_intelligence

Also, how is that related to GoT?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on February 04, 2014, 01:24:15 am
From what I've read, the curve for IQ for men bombs slightly at either end, meaning there are more genius level AND substandard IQ men than there are women. The curve for women is much flatter, with a greater proportion of women with average intelligence when compared to men.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on February 04, 2014, 04:02:32 am
Maybe, but it still ends up with men leading with 5-6 IQ on average.
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Post by: Leesin on February 04, 2014, 07:52:48 am
Men are better at everything and women are just holes to fill with our mighty meat batons.

Just don't tell my girlfriend I said that or I'll be in the dog house.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on February 04, 2014, 03:27:27 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 04, 2014, 06:04:22 pm
Maybe, but it still ends up with men leading with 5-6 IQ on average.

I don't really understand what the average IQ of billions of men and women have to do with any particular woman or man.  You can find retards and geniuses in both categories.  Your intelligence (or lack of) has no bearing on mine.

Can you start your own topic if you want to derail this GoT's thread?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kafein on February 04, 2014, 06:27:56 pm
From what I've read, the curve for IQ for men bombs slightly at either end, meaning there are more genius level AND substandard IQ men than there are women. The curve for women is much flatter, with a greater proportion of women with average intelligence when compared to men.

Even though your choice of words is incorrect, that's what I heard too, and I think it is correct.

I don't really understand what the average IQ of billions of men and women have to do with any particular woman or man.  You can find retards and geniuses in both categories.  Your intelligence (or lack of) has no bearing on mine.

Can you start your own topic if you want to derail this GoT's thread?

Way to not understand a simple report.



By the way, this opens up the question that IQ (or the specific test that was used) is maybe not representative of the ability of women to solve problems and understand situations, because they don't do it the same way as men. Men and women differ wildly in some areas, especially those things that are related to problem solving, so maybe IQ is not gender-neutral. I mean, it's totally possible that it gives more weight to tasks where men do better than women, and that another weight distribution would be a better representation of "intelligence".
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Post by: Xant on February 04, 2014, 09:21:43 pm
IQ tests correlate extremely highly with g. So yes, it's representative.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on February 04, 2014, 09:31:53 pm
IQ tests correlate extremely highly with g. So yes, it's representative.

Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a my old friend, and your shit's all retarded.

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Post by: Nightmare798 on February 04, 2014, 09:32:37 pm
Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a my old friend, and your shit's all retarded.

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No argument there Cracka.
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Post by: Tagora on February 05, 2014, 07:03:48 am
It sucks how there isn't a decent vidya for either GoT or LOTR.
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Post by: Oberyn on February 05, 2014, 07:49:21 am
I don't really understand what the average IQ of billions of men and women have to do with any particular woman or man.  You can find retards and geniuses in both categories.  Your intelligence (or lack of) has no bearing on mine.

Can you start your own topic if you want to derail this GoT's thread?
Absolutely, averages are completely useless when looking at individuals. Xant's casual misoginy aside, which I suspect is mostly played for trolling potential than anything else, generalizations about more than 3 billion people are going to fail.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on February 10, 2014, 03:18:19 am
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Post by: Freland on February 10, 2014, 01:10:56 pm

Please be aware that the above season 4 preview contains some spoilers although no major ones.
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Post by: Tagora on February 10, 2014, 02:24:55 pm
I wonder if Cersei Lannister doesn't like wine a bit too much.
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Post by: Freland on February 10, 2014, 04:21:12 pm
The dragons had another growth spurt
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Post by: Ujin on February 10, 2014, 05:43:38 pm
The dragons had another growth spurt
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As a grown man , i still have a soft spot for cool looking dragons. I guess some childish things never go away.
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Post by: Turkhammer on February 10, 2014, 08:42:48 pm
New season started already?
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Post by: Tagora on February 10, 2014, 08:44:32 pm
New season started already?
starts in april m8.  I'm rewatching s3 right now. :)
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Post by: Leesin on February 10, 2014, 09:12:41 pm
Can't wait for Season 4, it's also one of the very few tv shows me and my Mrs both enjoy watching so double bonus.
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Post by: Moncho on February 10, 2014, 10:33:17 pm
13:50 dat shadow :O
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Post by: Freland on February 17, 2014, 08:39:52 am
Trailer 2
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Post by: Nightmare798 on February 19, 2014, 10:21:27 pm
If there is a midget slapping blonde boys around, then I guess I am in!
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Post by: Freland on March 10, 2014, 08:29:34 am
Season 4 Trailer 3

Don't go to youtube to watch this. The comments are dark and full of terrors (spoilers).


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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 10, 2014, 12:42:04 pm
I'm so glad I didn't watch a single frame of trailers or previews this year.

Last year I was so fed up with scenes like "I will take back what is mine" that when I finally saw them in the actual show they were totally worn out and felt out of the context and anti-immersive. Also in addition to already knowing the rough story from the books I also knew what each place, character or other folk will look like - this year there is much more I can actually be curious about.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on March 10, 2014, 03:23:43 pm
For lots of shows I like watching trailers or "sneak peaks" of next week's episode! But I don't for Game of Thrones...would prefer not to have anything spoiled, want it fresh when it happens (I've read all the released books). 
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Post by: Freland on March 18, 2014, 04:38:05 pm
The Bastards of Westeros: A behind the scene look for season 4. Contains spoilers from Season 1-3.
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Post by: Freland on March 19, 2014, 08:44:05 am
Season 4 Trailer 4 "Devil Inside"

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Post by: Xant on April 07, 2014, 10:13:07 am
Oberyn is gay. I knew it.
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Post by: Banok on April 07, 2014, 04:26:52 pm
great start

episode 2 tho...

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Post by: Freland on April 08, 2014, 12:43:33 pm
Oh sweet revenge!

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And here you can find a great read AFTER watching S04E01 which gives you a lot of background info from the books with no spoilers.
http://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/22foao/s04e01_followup_for_nonreaders_two_swords/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/22foao/s04e01_followup_for_nonreaders_two_swords/)
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 08, 2014, 02:15:07 pm
I liked a lot things about that season start, but the finale seen was perfect! The Hound actor is great starting from his hilarious one-liners over fucking good dialogue with both Arya and Polliver to his mimics, for example when Arya starts approaching the tavern or during the conversation with Polliver, "You're a talker." :)
But what I really liked the most was in the overall great fighting scene, when Arya realizes she wants to kill those two. And especially after she smashes the pot on the guys head how slowly and almost gentle takes his sword and move it into his body. No wild hacking or anything, she just proceeds and you could sense her relieve and mild joy and calming down while doing her revenge.
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Post by: Bittersteel on April 08, 2014, 05:05:06 pm
Oberyn is gay. I knew it.


If you look away from the show a second, he was only rumored in the books to be bisexual. I guess this is one of these shitty changes they made in the show again. Dammit i hate them for screwing over Stannis character.
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Post by: Malaclypse on April 08, 2014, 06:27:00 pm
Oberyn is gay. I knew it.

my money is on pansexual. goats, women, men, soft blankets- any port in a storm.
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Post by: Sagar on April 09, 2014, 01:51:33 pm
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Post by: Kalp on April 09, 2014, 05:23:08 pm
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Post by: Freland on April 12, 2014, 11:03:05 am
So this is why this Oberyn guy is so angry:

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Post by: BASNAK on April 12, 2014, 11:20:49 am
So this is why this Oberyn guy is so angry:

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Post by: Oberyn on April 12, 2014, 11:25:53 am
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Post by: Moncho on April 12, 2014, 11:28:10 am
So this is why this Oberyn guy is so angry:

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Careful, spoiler:
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Post by: Miwiw on April 12, 2014, 11:57:48 am
Careful, spoiler:
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Don't read if you don't wanna know it... :P
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Anyway, I liked the Episode. At least more than any previous episode, probably thanks to Sandor.
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Post by: Overdriven on April 12, 2014, 12:05:42 pm
Sandor is awesome. I have always liked his character.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 12, 2014, 12:08:53 pm
Don't read if you don't wanna know it... :P
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Anyway, I liked the Episode. At least more than any previous episode, probably thanks to Sandor.

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 12, 2014, 03:06:11 pm
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Post by: Bittersteel on April 13, 2014, 04:08:13 am
Not enough Stannis praise in this thread. I absolutely hate how they changed Stannis in so many ways in the tv show, portraying him as a puppet of Melisandre. They defnitely need to get him back on track.
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Post by: Franke on April 13, 2014, 07:08:47 pm
Not enough Stannis praise in this thread. I absolutely hate how they changed Stannis in so many ways in the tv show, portraying him as a puppet of Melisandre. They defnitely need to get him back on track.

My impression was that he is also strongly influenced by her in the books though not in such a manner as portrayed in the show. I really liked Stannis when he was introduced in the show, but he became a bit of a spine-less weakling. He was broken by the defeat at Blackwater bay and became an easy prey for Melisandre. Let's hope he develops in what is about to come.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 13, 2014, 07:12:29 pm
I think the biggest weakness of the show, and the books, is that any really interesting characters GRRM introduces he kills off/sends away very quickly. The setting and stuff is good, but when the only characters left are some gay women-creatures and a midget, there's nobody to root for.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 13, 2014, 07:15:30 pm
I think the biggest weakness of the show, and the books, is that any really interesting characters GRRM introduces he kills off/sends away very quickly. The setting and stuff is good, but when the only characters left are some gay women-creatures and a midget, there's nobody to root for.

I think it depends on what you would call an "interesting character", but I agree that since Ned Stark's death there is no real "good guy" left to root for (though it's my guess that this is exactly what is intended).
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Post by: Xant on April 13, 2014, 07:23:15 pm
I think it depends on what you would call an "interesting character", but I agree that since Ned Stark's death there is no real "good guy" left to root for (though it's my guess that this is exactly what is intended).
I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.
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Post by: LordBerenger on April 13, 2014, 07:25:36 pm
Lol there's mad Gayme of Throne nerd admins on EU and NA servs muting people for pretending to spoil GOT.


Bet nobody would care about Sons of Anarchy, House of Cards etc.. spoilers. Nurrrddssss
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Post by: Franke on April 13, 2014, 07:42:21 pm
I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.

Never watched "Bald and Beautiful but I think I get what you mean. Still I think that Jaime is still worth to follow. The other guys you meantioned (except Oberyn) where meant to be side-kicks from the beginning, at least this is my impression.
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Post by: Teeth on April 13, 2014, 07:58:28 pm
I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.
Yeah I agree, it seems Martin gets kicks of introducing characters he knows people find fascinating and for whom they root and then letting them die or disappear, it is super clever because it is unpredictable or something. In the end though he shoots himself in the foot majorly as he just leaves most of the writing going on about a bunch of weepy goody two shoes. I still find Jaime quite interesting and Sandor Clegane is one of my favourite characters, however both seem to be progressing towards being boring. Also, I really hate Daenerys as a character and while I am on that subject, the cast switch for Daario is a huge turn for the worse.

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Post by: Xant on April 13, 2014, 08:04:52 pm
Yeah, Jaime is one of my favorite characters currently in the books. But I like some action in my fantasy too, and all Jaime can do now is talk. As if there aren't enough characters who only talk... like you say, most of the remaining ones are weepy goody two-shoes.

Sandor is great. So...
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Post by: Oberyn on April 13, 2014, 08:45:08 pm
Sons of Anarchy

Just started watching that a week ago, have like 6 seasons to catch up on, no spoilrz thanks.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on April 13, 2014, 09:11:21 pm
Just started watching that a week ago, have like 6 seasons to catch up on, no spoilrz thanks.

Spoilers: It's good.

Spoilers: It's not good if you're expecting Game Of Thrones, Rome, Spartacus etc.. softcore sex scenes at every episode.

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Post by: Oberyn on April 13, 2014, 09:17:02 pm
This may be a surprise to you, but it's possible to enjoy something and not expect it and want it everywhere, all the time. I also enjoy reading dry historical treatises, but I don't look for that style in my porn. Also yeah the blatant sexy-times they shoehorn into every episode I see as a tollbooth sort of thing. It's merely the price to pay for an HBO show imo lol.
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Post by: Leesin on April 13, 2014, 09:19:31 pm
Spoilers: It's good.

Spoilers: It's not good if you're expecting Game Of Thrones, Rome, Spartacus etc.. softcore sex scenes at every episode.

Even without tits, Game of Thrones and Rome are better than Sons of Anarchy, it's still pretty good though.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 13, 2014, 10:53:38 pm
Yeah I agree, it seems Martin gets kicks of introducing characters he knows people find fascinating and for whom they root and then letting them die or disappear, it is super clever because it is unpredictable or something. In the end though he shoots himself in the foot majorly as he just leaves most of the writing going on about a bunch of weepy goody two shoes. I still find Jaime quite interesting and Sandor Clegane is one of my favourite characters, however both seem to be progressing towards being boring. Also, I really hate Daenerys as a character and while I am on that subject, the cast switch for Daario is a huge turn for the worse.

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You don't really think Martin is letting characters die only because he knows people like them? I agree that it is a waste of good characters but of course their deaths are planned probably even before he starts writing because they are important for the story line. In Ned's case I think it is clear that his death set's ground to the whole drama of the Stark family.

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However I agree that it would be nice to have one or two more interesting characters at the center of the action, but I'm happy if he gets the books done at all. It still will be a huge great story with many strengths and only a few drawbacks, IMO.
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Post by: Chosen1 on April 14, 2014, 04:25:43 am
mfw it finally happened

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Post by: LordBerenger on April 14, 2014, 02:08:53 pm
Even without tits, Game of Thrones and Rome are better than Sons of Anarchy, it's still pretty good though.

No. Only if you're into Fantasy Medieval crap. It lives on that and it's gory-ness and porn-lite scenes.

Game of Thrones got nothing on series such as Sons of Anarchy, Breaking Bad, Rome, Sopranos, etc..
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Post by: Angantyr on April 14, 2014, 02:23:31 pm
Sons of Anarchy is overrated in my opinion, and doesn't bear mention with the really great TV shows. I've only watched a few episodes, mind, but I think the main actors are notoriously miscast, I've known a few bikers and violent criminals in my life, and none of these actors have the demeanor or the eyes, especially not of anyone supposed to be professional murderers and pimps (as in Prison Break particularly not the Hollywood boy protagonist). A portrayal much more convincing in series such as OZ and the Wire.
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Post by: Xant on April 14, 2014, 02:31:48 pm
SoA is alright, but it's something you watch when you're bored, not something you wait on the edge of your seat for. But it's better than Breaking Bad, at least. I wish I could get all that time back..
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Post by: Molly on April 14, 2014, 06:34:58 pm
Now, I watched the 2 episodes of season 4. I got curious what all the fuss was about.
Well, what can I say? I "organized" the other 3 seasons and now I am watching them while I keep watching season 4 too.
Kinda funny since I know nothing about all of them when I watched season 4 but straight from season 1 episode 1 it seems rather easy to predict what's going to happen.

But that's not my reason writing this, I am actually here to ask for a few spoilers as I go along and watch all the other seasons...

1. Are those 2 actually real brother and sister? You know... those 2 fucking and dumping that little boy down the tower? I mean... wtf?
2. Is the King's son actually his son or is he the incest son of those siblings?

Those 2 questions I'd like to have answered :) Anyone willing to help me out?
And Jesus Christ, that King's son is such a disgusting piece of shit. Can't stand him right from the start. He certainly looks like 'incest' :?
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Post by: Xant on April 14, 2014, 06:38:55 pm
Yes and yes (latter).
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Post by: Molly on April 14, 2014, 06:57:23 pm
I knew it :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Hobb on April 14, 2014, 07:17:49 pm
Inb4 sir Loris and prince Oberyn gay orgy.

Am I a homophobe to find these scenes pointless? Most sex are supposed to/do add something either plot or character driven to the show. All the gay scenes have just been... well gay.
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Post by: Molly on April 14, 2014, 07:56:25 pm
Poor dwarf, he seems to get it at every corner he takes :(
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Post by: Vibe on April 14, 2014, 08:26:59 pm
well im glad that fucker is dead, but his performance was pretty good to make everyone so pissed

now they just need to end Carl's life from Walking Dead and my list of annoying tv series characters that just need to die will be much more pleasant to look at
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: njames89 on April 14, 2014, 09:08:46 pm
Wow just realized this thread is here. Big nerd, huge fan. Love the books and the show. Caught up in both! Really looking forward to the rest of this season and wondering if this was ever posted in here.

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Post by: Erzengel on April 14, 2014, 09:28:18 pm
Finally that son of a bitch is dead.
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Post by: Moncho on April 14, 2014, 09:32:19 pm
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Post by: Franke on April 14, 2014, 10:59:38 pm
He died like he lived: being a huge prick...

I've always rooted for Stannis as soon as he had goten introduced in the books, but, man, his private life is just fubar. Seeing him like this makes me feel sorry for him, I hope he gets into action soon now.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 15, 2014, 12:38:57 am
Inb4 sir Loris and prince Oberyn gay orgy.

Am I a homophobe to find these scenes pointless? Most sex are supposed to/do add something either plot or character driven to the show. All the gay scenes have just been... well gay.

I just contextualize it as the general oversexing of everything in the series. The books have their sexy times moments it's true, but nowhere near to the level of an HBO show. Everything that is even slightly sexual or could be construed as such has been dialed up to eleven, no matter how undertoned it was in the books. It's blatant porn service, but that's HBO for ya. I wonder if they have quotas for how much tits and ass and dicks appear in a given episode.
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Post by: Xant on April 15, 2014, 01:47:13 am
Joffrey's actor is amazing. Watch some interviews of that guy, he seems like a super nice and humble dude.. and yet he manages to portray one of the biggest dicks ever on the show, and people legit hate him.
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Post by: Havoco on April 15, 2014, 08:18:51 am
Joffrey's actor is amazing. Watch some interviews of that guy, he seems like a super nice and humble dude.. and yet he manages to portray one of the biggest dicks ever on the show, and people legit hate him.

Yeah, I don't even know if I want to watch the series after this. He was such a key character in the show that it'll just seem strange to watch after this.
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Post by: Leesin on April 15, 2014, 09:33:25 am
Yeah, I don't even know if I want to watch the series after this. He was such a key character in the show that it'll just seem strange to watch after this.

Really?  :lol:
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Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 09:50:25 am
I haven't watched that much yet - obviously, I am at both episodes from season 4 and at e05s01 right now - but what they actually all seem to portrait really awesome are the different ambitions they have. Even when they don't speak it out directly, I still have the impression that everyone has some kind of agenda. Kinda cool.
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Post by: Vibe on April 15, 2014, 09:53:43 am
why would you watch season 4 first and then previous seasons
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Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 10:02:27 am
Never watched it before, got curious, season 4 just started, watched first episode and then 2nd, decided to get starting at the front :)
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Post by: Vibe on April 15, 2014, 10:21:21 am
you basically looked at the list of dead characters up to now and now you're gonna watch the whole series?

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 10:45:44 am
Not really, since I still dunno about everyone involved I guess. Aaand I don't really know who died up until now. Neither did I read any of the books. :)

I don't feel too much spoilered right now, even after watching the season 4 episodes.
Besides, I am a fan of good series but I never really get all hooked about any of them. Well, I'm eagerly awaiting the new 24-series but that's about it.
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Post by: Moncho on April 15, 2014, 10:49:11 am
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And about watching it by knowing how the story more or less goes, it doesn't really matter, otherwise people who have read the books would not be able to watch it, since we know what's coming (even if at some point we believe a different thing is going to happen next)
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Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 11:03:04 am
Right now, I am mostly wondering how that little Stark girl will end up with the Hound (I think he's called like that) and how the cripple Stark ends up with the power to see shit through the eyes of his freaking Dire Wolf. Not to mention why the dwarf gets to marry the rather hot red head (Is she showing her tits too?) and does she know about her lil' sis being alive, piercing bandits with Needle cuz I do know that Mum and Dad will die rather soon, I guess and the bastard son being alive and kicking after deserting, returning to the Nightswatch and so on and on... :D

It's rather fascinating to know bits but not knowing how they come to happen. :wink:
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Post by: Freland on April 15, 2014, 11:33:36 am
... Not to mention why the dwarf gets to marry the rather hot red head (Is she showing her tits too?) ...
Sorry to disappoint you but the actress Sophie Turner is only 16 so you have to wait for two years to see some Stark tits.  :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 11:55:41 am
Sorry to disappoint you but the actress Sophie Turner is only 16 so you have to wait for two years to see some Stark tits.  :D
Yea, I was afraid of her being too young. She's 13 years old at the start of the series... well, her character is at least.

And what's up with 95% of the chicks being gorgeous aaand every chick - including the blondes - seem to have eyebrows not matching their hair colour (seemed kinda odd). At least for the main characters it seems. Can't tell for the whores running through the screen, always focus other parts than their eyebrows :)
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Post by: Vibe on April 15, 2014, 12:13:34 pm
Yea, I was afraid of her being too young. She's 13 years old at the start of the series... well, her character is at least.

And what's up with 95% of the chicks being gorgeous

You need to get laid, the young ginger lady is quite mediocre when it comes to looks. Now khaleesi on the other hand... come to papa you fiery peroxide hair prostitute and lets make dragons together
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 12:15:14 pm
You need to get laid, the young ginger lady is quite mediocre when it comes to looks. Now khaleesi on the other hand... come to papa you fiery peroxide hair prostitute and lets make dragons together
Blond hair with strong dark eyebrows... looks odd!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on April 15, 2014, 12:50:42 pm
And about watching it by knowing how the story more or less goes, it doesn't really matter, otherwise people who have read the books would not be able to watch it, since we know what's coming (even if at some point we believe a different thing is going to happen next)
People who have read the books have already experienced the entire story in its full glory, progression through the story without knowing what will happen next. Watching the series afterwards is nice because you see it visualized in a different manner than you did in your head. This isn't a damn sitcom, just hopping in and watching some episodes messes with your first experience of the story.

Also, Sansa and Daenerys both do very little for me, but perhaps I cant seperate my despise for the characters they play from my evaluation of their looks. Margaery however, with her weird-ass crooked face and sexy dresses, gaaawd.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on April 15, 2014, 01:57:36 pm
Recent episode:

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Post by: Tom Cruise on April 15, 2014, 05:24:19 pm
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Post by: Havoco on April 15, 2014, 05:47:49 pm
Blond hair with strong dark eyebrows... looks odd!

I have to agree. The targaryen girl isn't the best looking one.(besides isn't she 16). I prefer redheads though so I'd say the hottest one is the cave sex girl. Though those teeth.... Meh
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 15, 2014, 05:52:44 pm
She can't be 16 cuz everything with blank tits has to be 18+ irl...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Strudog on April 15, 2014, 06:05:42 pm
i dont know if this has been mentioned before but the Character Shae, is played by a former pornstar.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Havoco on April 15, 2014, 06:10:22 pm
She can't be 16 cuz everything with blank tits has to be 18+ irl...

Oh right, I forgot about her sex scene.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: njames89 on April 15, 2014, 08:02:34 pm
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Omg. Nice! I love it. Whoever created this is awesome. Thanks for the link!!

Also as far as having seen the show and not read the books. The books are 100% worth it no matter whether you know the story. The show is also the same, worth watching even if you have already seen some of it.
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Post by: Bittersteel on April 16, 2014, 03:14:47 am
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 16, 2014, 08:54:49 am
i dont know if this has been mentioned before but the Character Shae, is played by a former pornstar.
A German former pornstar at that.
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Post by: Franke on April 16, 2014, 05:34:26 pm
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Post by: Miwiw on April 16, 2014, 06:18:27 pm
A German former pornstar at that.

She got quite a weird accent.. :D

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 16, 2014, 08:48:36 pm
Half-Turkish is she too...

Anyway, love the Imp, the little Stark daughter is adorable and I despise the elder Stark daughter, Sansar or whatever her name is. Ohhh... and I hate the incest bastard King, that stuff he does to those 2 perfectly fine whores the Imp send him... this fucking cunt, Jesus, I was raging at that scene :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 16, 2014, 09:53:06 pm
that stuff he does to those 2 perfectly fine whores the Imp send him... this fucking cunt, Jesus, I was raging at that scene :P

It'll get even better...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on April 17, 2014, 01:50:03 pm
Half-Turkish is she too...

Anyway, love the Imp, the little Stark daughter is adorable and I despise the elder Stark daughter, Sansar or whatever her name is. Ohhh... and I hate the incest bastard King, that stuff he does to those 2 perfectly fine whores the Imp send him... this fucking cunt, Jesus, I was raging at that scene :P


Sansa is gonna rekt Westeros with her newly accuired skills from a certain guy that's the master at the Game of Thrones. Atleast, that's what i believe, George may kill her off in a second.

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Post by: Segd on April 17, 2014, 01:55:06 pm
Finally King Joffrey did what he should do long time ago.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 17, 2014, 05:25:05 pm

Sansa is gonna rekt Westeros with her newly accuired skills from a certain guy that's the master at the Game of Thrones. Atleast, that's what i believe, George may kill her off in a second.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on April 17, 2014, 05:34:20 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
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Post by: Sir_Hans on April 18, 2014, 08:54:57 am
What's shae's porn name?  :twisted: fap fap fap fap......

I wish Margery did some porn... but I'll settle for some Shae  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 18, 2014, 09:12:18 am
Her name is Sibel Kekilli.

I wonder what was there first: The Draugir of Skyrim or that undead dude at the end of Season 2? :lol:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on April 18, 2014, 03:49:55 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on April 18, 2014, 09:28:57 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Sir_Hans on April 19, 2014, 07:43:06 am
Astronaut Margery.... I'm in love....  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: njames89 on April 19, 2014, 12:01:02 pm
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It just makes a lot of sense
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 19, 2014, 01:44:45 pm
Guess I should ask this in a spoiler:

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Post by: Xant on April 19, 2014, 01:57:54 pm
Yes.
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Post by: Franke on April 19, 2014, 02:04:13 pm
Guess I should ask this in a spoiler:

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Not for me. I'ts certainly better than her hanging around in King's Landing all the time, especially with what happens between Lysa and Petyr (Dude, how I hope that this guy will die), but to me Sansa now seems a bit stranded at the end of the world now.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 19, 2014, 02:09:06 pm
Molly did say "becoming", so a "yes" is precise.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 19, 2014, 02:50:38 pm
Not for me. I'ts certainly better than her hanging around in King's Landing all the time, especially with what happens between Lysa and Petyr (Dude, how I hope that this guy will die), but to me Sansa now seems a bit stranded at the end of the world now.

What, he's the best guy!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on April 21, 2014, 12:59:11 pm
Incoming a wall of GoT character summaries:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on April 21, 2014, 01:30:28 pm
lord friendzone strikes again

"you are my dearest friend"

10/10 fedoras
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Segd on April 21, 2014, 02:12:20 pm
Game of Thrones S04E03 HDTV x264-KILLERS[ettv]
seeders 101218 leechers 43483. Probably most popular tv-series ever.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on April 21, 2014, 02:17:09 pm
Last scene was so much better in the books. Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once  :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 21, 2014, 02:19:37 pm
Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once  :(

It's no real fight if no own blood flows! Always remind yourself if you're into a fight. :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 21, 2014, 02:19:43 pm
IMDB boards are going nuts over "rape" in this episode. Even though... it was obviously not rape. Didn't even cross my mind before I saw the 10000 threads about how horrible the rape scene was.

People must have pretty weird ideas about rape if they think it's normal the woman pulls the rapist closer to her and kisses him. Clearly it was just a "I want to but we can't, not here, uhhh, pls jamie stahp (not rly dont stahp) *resists just hard enough not to actually stop it from happening*"

And that's really besides the point, even if it had been rape, so what? In the same episode we saw a lot more horrible crap being done than the Queen Bitch getting "raped."

Also I'm glad they replaced Strong Belwas. He's kind of a pointless character.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 21, 2014, 02:56:33 pm
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Haha, these pictures somehow reminded me of the "Honest Trailer" for GoT


EDIT: Watched the latest episode and I have to confess that I have reached the point where all these sex scenes do annoy me more than they entertain me. Is something wrong with me?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 21, 2014, 07:27:26 pm
EDIT: Watched the latest episode and I have to confess that I have reached the point where all these sex scenes do annoy me more than they entertain me. Is something wrong with me?

No, if you want to see sex scenes, watch porn. That's what it's for after all... If watching some series, I want to see battles, blood, funny jokes, nice stories, lovely girls and other weird and entertaining stuff. Maybe tits and butts sometimes but more isnt really needed.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 21, 2014, 07:52:34 pm
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IMP SLAP :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on April 21, 2014, 10:56:22 pm
IMDB boards are going nuts over "rape" in this episode. Even though... it was obviously not rape. Didn't even cross my mind before I saw the 10000 threads about how horrible the rape scene was.

People must have pretty weird ideas about rape if they think it's normal the woman pulls the rapist closer to her and kisses him. Clearly it was just a "I want to but we can't, not here, uhhh, pls jamie stahp (not rly dont stahp) *resists just hard enough not to actually stop it from happening*"

And that's really besides the point, even if it had been rape, so what? In the same episode we saw a lot more horrible crap being done than the Queen Bitch getting "raped."

Also I'm glad they replaced Strong Belwas. He's kind of a pointless character.

Fuck you.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 21, 2014, 11:22:05 pm
Xant is right, Belwas might have an interesting background and appearance in the books but unless he does something really noteworthy in future books he has no real purpose for the plot. Was the same with Vargo Hoat, they replaced him with that Locke guy who seems nothing more than a sidekick to Roose Bolton.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 21, 2014, 11:28:35 pm
Vargo isn't the only one, they left out Edric Storm as well. In ep 1 the young guy was killed by Edd, in the books it was the other way round. Getting disappointed a lot by the "changes", even though they got good reasons.
However the good actors are making up for it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: F i n on April 22, 2014, 12:11:42 am
I wished throwing daggers would work like in the last episode....
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 22, 2014, 01:55:23 am
I wished throwing daggers would work like in the last episode....

Only if I get a flaming 1h sword and the ability to kill someone with the pointed end of a kite shield.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on April 22, 2014, 12:26:03 pm
I wished throwing daggers would work like in the last episode....
Who knew that the domination of Medieval combat by the knight could have been avoided if peasants would have had throwing knives?

Strong Belwas brought a bit of lightheartedness to the entire Slaver's Bay scene and he does have some minor purposes in the plot. One coming up very soon in the plot and one coming up way later. He is a character that can be cut no doubt, but how hard is it to cast a fat guy with some scars, the book version of the champion fight would have worked very well on screen in my opinion. Also, really sad that I didn't get any acknowledgement for my mediocre pun with Belwas.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Joseph Porta on April 22, 2014, 12:40:14 pm
I fucking hated the last ending, it was utter shit. Cool ep though kinda boring..
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 22, 2014, 12:42:11 pm
I am still wondering if the wine, the cake or the pigeons were poisonous :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Miwiw on April 22, 2014, 12:45:40 pm
I am still wondering if the wine, the cake or the pigeons were poisonous :)

Real spoiler. :)
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Post by: Gnjus on April 22, 2014, 05:14:58 pm
Just watched these 3 new episodes today and I realized why our Bloby named himself Oberyn......he probably thinks of himself as a similar exotic-looking fuck-magnet for anything that lives and has a hole or two.

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Post by: Segd on April 22, 2014, 05:58:41 pm
No, if you want to see sex scenes, watch porn. That's what it's for after all... If watching some series, I want to see battles, blood, funny jokes, nice stories, lovely girls and other weird and entertaining stuff. Maybe tits and butts sometimes but more isnt really needed.
It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on April 22, 2014, 06:05:50 pm
It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on April 22, 2014, 06:24:18 pm
We know you're a good-looking youngster of Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian origins but please - stop this madness and ask for a rename.

I have zero maghreb ancestry, not sure where you got that idea. One of my great grandpa's was from around Tver, fled the bolsheviks and ended up fighting for France in WW1, and my mother's side is "white" brasilian so a mix of a bunch of different things. On my father's side it's mostly all french from around the Tours and Limousin region who have been there for generations, appart from that dash of slavic.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on April 22, 2014, 06:43:03 pm
I have zero maghreb ancestry, not sure where you got that idea. One of my great grandpa's was from around Tver, fled the bolsheviks and ended up fighting for France in WW1, and my mother's side is "white" brasilian so a mix of a bunch of different things. On my father's side it's mostly all french from around the Tours and Limousin region who have been there for generations, appart from that dash of slavic.



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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Boerenlater on April 22, 2014, 07:28:05 pm
I dont even know who Mord is.
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Post by: Gnjus on April 22, 2014, 07:46:05 pm
I dont even know who Mord is.


He is a Boringlater of George Martin's world:

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Mord is a large man, slow-witted brute, he has small, dark eyes, rotting brown teeth. He has a large belly and thick, stubby-fingered hands.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Boerenlater on April 22, 2014, 09:48:07 pm

He is a Boringlater of George Martin's world:
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 22, 2014, 11:53:16 pm
Why would Olenna Tyrell want to assasinate Joffrey before he and Margery shared their wedding bed? The case has not been solved in the books yet so I think I'm free to make a wild guess here. My money goes on Varys, my picture of him is that of a (admittedly sneaky) guy who wants the best for the realm in contrast to for example Littlefinger who is a sneaky guy who wants the best for himself.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on April 23, 2014, 12:20:17 am
About Joffrey
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About Oberyn (guy in the books, not member of this forum) yeah, I am quite annoyed at the way he is being portrayed, he has been made into a much more sexual dude in the show than I recall in the books. And I think they went way over the top with the last orgies. Ok, we get it, he is bi, he likes to fuck a lot, but there is no need to put a scene in every episode, honestly I did not like this one at all, extremely pointless imo, all they said was already clear from the previous ones.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 23, 2014, 01:46:16 am
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About Oberyn (guy in the books, not member of this forum) yeah, I am quite annoyed at the way he is being portrayed, he has been made into a much more sexual dude in the show than I recall in the books. And I think they went way over the top with the last orgies. Ok, we get it, he is bi, he likes to fuck a lot, but there is no need to put a scene in every episode, honestly I did not like this one at all, extremely pointless imo, all they said was already clear from the previous ones.

Exactly what I feel. Oberyn is portrayed as a great warrior (with a certain affinity towards the use of poisened blades) who loves women (and men?) but his depiction in the show is rather one-sided. A waste as I think they made a really good choice with this actor compared to others *looking towards Daario Naharis* 

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 23, 2014, 02:06:04 am
The TV series confirmed it was the Tyrells and Littlefinger.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on April 23, 2014, 07:18:33 am
its kind of sad people posting book 5 stuff even in spoilers because you know people are just going to read them anyway and ruin the big surprises for themselves.

I'm quite proud of my behaviour not spoiling anything to my friends who would probably not show me the same courtesy.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 23, 2014, 08:23:25 am
Really? How is the series leading people on? I for one am not even expecting the dragons to come any time soon. Although since the series moves along much faster than the books, the dragons will come, or won't, much quicker than in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 23, 2014, 09:48:25 am
As a viewer, a newly one I might add, I personally don't expect any dragons soon. My impression is that those zombies behind the wall will be a focus, rather than the dragons. Why else is she cleaning out one city after the other in a rather slow pace. Even considering that they point out every 5 minutes that those dragons grow fast.

By the way, I noticed that we actually have the books in my house :)
I skipped 1-5 and now started with 6 which seems to be a bit earlier than show is right now. Dany being at Yunakai'i right now where I am reading and Robert's smithing bastard not even being shipped off. It seems they changed the order a bit in the show compared to the books...

But... I have some problems with all the names in the book. So many more characters and their names... :?
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Post by: Freland on April 23, 2014, 10:11:22 am
You probably have the german version of the books which splitted each english book into two separate ones to earn more cash.
At the moment the show handled about 75% of the third (english) book but they already showed some of book 4 and 5 (for example all the Theon and Ramsay stuff).
If you want to start reading the books I strongly recommend starting with the first book as the show omitted some super important chapters like Ned Stark's fever dream.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 23, 2014, 10:28:02 am
Ah, didn't know about different page counts. Good to know :D

And I don't even know if I will continue reading them cuz it's totally not my genre. It merely happened by accident cuz I like the show and happened to have the books around. :wink:
I am mostly curious about Arya tbh.
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Post by: Gnjus on April 23, 2014, 11:19:47 am
So many people talking about their porno fantasies in this thread and yet - none mentioned the lovely Frey daughters, I'd like to see some erotic scenes involving all of them.......
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Post by: Vibe on April 23, 2014, 11:31:50 am
dear lord behave yourself gnjus
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Post by: Gnjus on April 23, 2014, 11:44:40 am
dear lord behave yourself gnjus


I find lady Derpina very sexy:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on April 23, 2014, 01:58:44 pm
Robert's smithing bastard not even being shipped off.

Not putting this into a spoiler as it is just different in the books: In the books Gendry never gets shipped to Dragonstone, in the books this part falls to another Robert bastard (I think his name is Eric Storm or so, he has been mentioned somewhere above)

Leaving the first books out will give you a hard time if you really want to follow the books' plot in the future.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 23, 2014, 11:32:29 pm
Last scene was so much better in the books. Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once  :(

Yeah I wish Strong Belwas was in the tv show...he doesn't do a whole lot in the books (he is of critical importance later in the books, but they can just use someone else for what he does in the books, as they did here).  I always like Belwas, and would have loved to see him fight the Mereen champion, if for nothing else than shitting on his corpse after killing him. 

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I always thought it was more than hinted it...it seemed obvious to me from reading the book who poisoned joffrey. 
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Post by: Miwiw on April 23, 2014, 11:51:52 pm
Watched ep3 today, seeing that duel was really awful. That's like leaving out the first battle in the first book (what they actually did - but then during that time they just started to become popular).  :P

The "rape" scene wasn't that awful tho, nothing great. Same for the "orgy" with Oberyn. Was fine for a series, not too much though I don't really like gay sex scenes. =D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on April 24, 2014, 09:52:38 am
[...] I don't really like gay sex [...]
I are disappoint.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on April 24, 2014, 10:59:40 am
Watched ep3 today, seeing that duel was really awful.
Awful how? Because they cut Belwas the Useless? Having Daario do it makes more sense, since Daario is a much more important a character later on, so it makes sense for him to be involved in more things earlier on instead of suddenly becoming important.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 24, 2014, 12:36:46 pm
I thought that duel was not so great because it was too much of a Terentino style super cool killing without any tension, I mildly smiled at it and thats it.

I don't get why people either condemn the masses of 'unnecessary' characters in the books or are mad because this or that minor character is merged with more important ones in the series. It is one of the books strengths or more neutral characteristics that you have a couple of people (mostly POV-characters) that have a near 100% dramaturgic live but also the ones like Belwas which only have 1 or 2 moments in their lives that are really interesting for the story and for us to read about. The books are full of normal people, which makes it tedious to read sometimes but also makes the world and story immersive and realistic. And it is clear that they don't have time for that in the TV series.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 24, 2014, 12:41:29 pm
I always thought it was more than hinted it...it seemed obvious to me from reading the book who poisoned joffrey.

Yeah it is not explicitly stated in the books, but it's pretty obvious. Petyr almost says it directly to Sansa, who figures it out almost immediately. You'd be surprised how many people don't pick up on it. In the show it was merely hinted at, though. Much less obvious if you haven't read the books prior.
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Post by: Vibe on April 24, 2014, 12:45:04 pm
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Post by: Miwiw on April 24, 2014, 12:45:49 pm
I are disappoint.

Don't cut my quotes in half. I never said that!

@Xant... No, no. Belwas is as import as him. Plus the "duel" being won by just throwing a dagger is quite stupid. Scene in the book was far better and they could have easily made that as well.
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Post by: Xant on April 24, 2014, 12:46:52 pm
I thought that duel was not so great because it was too much of a Terentino style super cool killing without any tension, I mildly smiled at it and thats it.

I don't get why people either condemn the masses of 'unnecessary' characters in the books or are mad because this or that minor character is merged with more important ones in the series. It is one of the books strengths or more neutral characteristics that you have a couple of people (mostly POV-characters) that have a near 100% dramaturgic live but also the ones like Belwas which only have 1 or 2 moments in their lives that are really interesting for the story and for us to read about. The books are full of normal people, which makes it tedious to read sometimes but also makes the world and story immersive and realistic. And it is clear that they don't have time for that in the TV series.
Belwas is great in the books, but it works better for a TV series to cut down on the unnecessary side characters a bit.

And Oberyn, it's hinted at, yeah, but it's visually confirmed in the show. Look at Sansa's necklace before and after the Thorny Queen fondles her hair. And then Petyr confirms he had it made.

Don't cut my quotes in half. I never said that!

@Xant... No, no. Belwas is as import as him. Plus the "duel" being won by just throwing a dagger is quite stupid. Scene in the book was far better and they could have easily made that as well.
Really? What does Belwas do in the books that's important?
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Post by: Miwiw on April 24, 2014, 12:48:50 pm
You did read the books did you? So you know yourself. Not like I'm into doing a typical Xant discussion. Imo he's an important side character.
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Post by: Oberyn on April 24, 2014, 12:53:56 pm
Yeah but you'd have to be very perceptive to pick up on that in a single sitting if you had never read the books. Obviously I was looking for it because I had, and I'm guessing you were in the same boat. They made it more of murder-mystery thing on the show.
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Post by: Molly on April 24, 2014, 01:06:04 pm
I watched the episode twice and didn't get it.
I might have over-read it somewhere in this thread but was it the wine or the cake now? :?
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Post by: Oberyn on April 24, 2014, 01:08:06 pm
I watched the episode twice and didn't get it.
I might have over-read it somewhere in this thread but was it the wine or the cake now? :?

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Post by: Gnjus on April 24, 2014, 01:19:48 pm
Soooo.........what about Mord, is he alive and coming back at any point ? And Clive Russel (the archer) ? And does Hodor become important at any point ? And that bearded fire priest-warrior from last season, who has some kind of a forest wild bunch ? And the guy who got split up by Sandor the Dog and then just rose back from the dead ?  :?:
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Post by: Boerenlater on April 24, 2014, 01:21:50 pm
Dumb question, but what happened to the blacksmith bastard son of Robert?
He was sent away on a boat and after that?
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Post by: Miwiw on April 24, 2014, 01:27:15 pm
Soooo.........what about Mord, is he alive and coming back at any point ? And Clive Russel (the archer) ? And does Hodor become important at any point ? And that bearded fire priest-warrior from last season, who has some kind of a forest wild bunch ? And the guy who got split up by Sandor the Dog and then just rose back from the dead ?  :?:

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Post by: Xant on April 24, 2014, 01:36:07 pm
You did read the books did you? So you know yourself. Not like I'm into doing a typical Xant discussion. Imo he's an important side character.
If I knew myself I wouldn't have asked you, would I? Edumacate me, tell me how he's as important as Daario, who

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To the left, we have Strong Belwas, who is a fat dude who likes to fight. His only real deed in the books is fighting the duel and Daario was just as suitable for it. There is literally nothing he does that cannot be done by someone else. Same cannot be said for Daario.

So remind me, how are these two as important?
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Post by: BASNAK on April 24, 2014, 01:36:49 pm
Soooo.........what about Mord, is he alive and coming back at any point ? And Clive Russel (the archer) ? And does Hodor become important at any point ? And that bearded fire priest-warrior from last season, who has some kind of a forest wild bunch ? And the guy who got split up by Sandor the Dog and then just rose back from the dead ?  :?:

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Post by: Molly on April 24, 2014, 01:49:35 pm
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Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:
That is freaking retarded. :?
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Post by: BASNAK on April 24, 2014, 01:52:36 pm
Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:
That is freaking retarded. :?

I didn't read the books, but yes I had the same reaction when I was told ;)
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Post by: vipere on April 24, 2014, 01:57:40 pm
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Post by: Miwiw on April 24, 2014, 02:17:26 pm
Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:
That is freaking retarded. :?

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Post by: Freland on April 24, 2014, 02:24:38 pm
I agree but it's always helpful if you are a litlle more specific about your spoiler. You do that like this (obviously I erased the [])
spoiler=Book 5 spoiler

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Post by: Gnjus on April 24, 2014, 02:25:57 pm
What about Blackfish ? And that Night Watch Ranger from season one, brother of Ned Stark who went beyond the wall and was never heard from again ? I mean - Blackfish disappeared only recently but that ranger guy.......what was the point of him ? 3 seasons and still out of the picture.......
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Post by: Freland on April 24, 2014, 02:43:45 pm
What about Blackfish ? And that Night Watch Ranger from season one, brother of Ned Stark who went beyond the wall and was never heard from again ? I mean - Blackfish disappeared only recently but that ranger guy.......what was the point of him ? 3 seasons and still out of the picture.......

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Post by: Franke on April 24, 2014, 04:30:35 pm
I watched the episode twice and didn't get it.

Watched the scene twice after Xant's post and to me it seems that Olenna is removing one of these blueish crystalys from Sansa's necklace when she fondles her hair. When the two are joined by Tyrion there are only 6 of them to be seen (while there are seven on the previous episode when former Ser Dontos gives the necklace to Sansa) and one of the golden triangles which hold the crystals is empty now. How the poison is spilled into the wine however is still a mystery to me.

About Benjen (not a spoiler as this is again different in the books): in the books Sam and Gilly are being lead to the secret passage under the wall by a mysterious zombie Nightswatch ranger. I've read theories that this is Benjen Stark though I do not believe this.
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Post by: Teeth on April 24, 2014, 04:38:05 pm
Really? What does Belwas do in the books that's important?
Book 5 spoiler
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Post by: Xant on April 24, 2014, 06:09:35 pm
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I'm not saying he's the most pointless character ever; only that Daario fulfills a much bigger role than him so calling them "just as important" is misleading to say the least. Both of those things, like you say, could be done by other Daenerys sidekicks.
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Post by: Vibe on April 25, 2014, 12:25:44 pm
Had a good laugh at these

Part1: http://imgur.com/gallery/eXj5S
Part2: http://imgur.com/gallery/VlVLM
Part3: http://imgur.com/gallery/6LEgf
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Post by: Miwiw on April 25, 2014, 12:37:35 pm
I'm not saying he's the most pointless character ever; only that Daario fulfills a much bigger role than him so calling them "just as important" is misleading to say the least. Both of those things, like you say, could be done by other Daenerys sidekicks.

Sure. They could have replaced Daario as well actually...
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Post by: Angantyr on April 25, 2014, 12:47:07 pm
Prince Doran was already mentioned and they really couldn't leave him out, but let's see if we get both Quentyn and Trystane.
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Post by: Miwiw on April 25, 2014, 12:56:53 pm
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Post by: Angantyr on April 25, 2014, 01:11:36 pm
I really like Dorne and its characters, too. Don't expect we'll be too disappointed.
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Post by: Xant on April 25, 2014, 02:29:59 pm
Sure. They could have replaced Daario as well actually...
Really, which of the current characters could replace Daario?
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Post by: [ptx] on April 25, 2014, 03:35:00 pm
Had a good laugh at these

Part1: http://imgur.com/gallery/eXj5S
Part2: http://imgur.com/gallery/VlVLM
Part3: http://imgur.com/gallery/6LEgf
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Poor Salsa
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on April 25, 2014, 08:11:07 pm
This is better :  http://imgur.com/a/rky8k
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Post by: Banok on April 28, 2014, 09:25:12 am
episode 4 wtf

as a book reader starting to be seriously concerned about how they adapting the books now. they have done great job so far so hopefully it will end but great but... wtf.
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Post by: Freland on April 28, 2014, 10:13:37 am
I'm sure the ending was discussed with GRRM. No way they would put that in without speaking with him.

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Post by: Xant on April 28, 2014, 01:31:53 pm
The unwashed brown slaves are so lucky to have the white man come and free them. They are right to worship the white man afterwards.
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Post by: Teeth on April 28, 2014, 03:33:27 pm
His face is so Star Wars.
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Post by: Xant on April 28, 2014, 04:01:13 pm
I like these changes from the book. The books got infamously boring around this time, so getting some action is far from bad. And let's not forget that GRRM is the co-executive producer of the show, scripts an episode every season, and has told the producers what happens in the books in the end, so it's not like the show is going to be "unfaithful." If someone wants a 1:1 telling of the books, they should read the books.
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Post by: Franke on April 28, 2014, 05:50:37 pm
What Xant said, changes are awesome. Not only the Bran storyline, but especially this one (although having a White Walker point of view felt rather strange- I hope they won't start talking at one point).

I found the Brienne/Jamie farewell scene very moving (just like the Tyrion/Podrick scene last episode) and the scene with Olenna and Margery completely changed my view on the Tyrells as rather toothless tigers which I regarded them to be from the books.

Never before, except for when I was watching season 1 (which I did before starting the books), I had that strong feeling of attending a completely new story.

Seems we could have spared us a lot of re-watching of "The Lion and the Rose" if we had waited for this episode.

And dat ending, really...
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Post by: Xant on April 28, 2014, 06:03:01 pm
Never before, except for when I was watching season 1 (which I did before starting the books), I had that strong feeling of attending a completely new story.
Same. It's great not knowing what's going to happen, for once.
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Post by: Miwiw on April 28, 2014, 06:46:46 pm
Bran's actor is too old... they're all too old. Xd

Good ending tho, becoming interesting.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 28, 2014, 11:12:14 pm
Was it really necessary to 'resolve' the murder of joffrey? I imagine it would have worked better if they'd let it a bit unclear for a while at least.

I don't mind the changes in general but right now it looks like a cheap setup for a glorious rescue mission for Jon, hope it will not turn out that simple. And yeah, strange feeling not knowing what's going to happen.
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Post by: Xant on April 29, 2014, 12:39:29 am
Vague hints work better in book format. It's good that they confirm things in the series.
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Post by: Kalp on April 29, 2014, 10:52:01 am
Poor Hodor  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Bittersteel on April 29, 2014, 02:04:03 pm
Just watched the new episode...

http://imgur.com/a/UlXmf
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Post by: [ptx] on April 29, 2014, 03:57:34 pm
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Post by: Franke on April 29, 2014, 04:03:49 pm
[...]it looks like a cheap setup for a glorious rescue mission for Jon, hope it will not turn out that simple.

I think that's exactly what's gonna happen.

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Post by: Banok on May 02, 2014, 10:50:07 am
about the nights king, they did edit that page it no longer says night king. so its not exactly officially confirmed. its either a mistake, or a spoiler which they are trying to cover up. never expected spoilers for the books from the fucking TV shows /facepalm.

I like these changes from the book. The books got infamously boring around this time, so getting some action is far from bad. And let's not forget that GRRM is the co-executive producer of the show, scripts an episode every season, and has told the producers what happens in the books in the end, so it's not like the show is going to be "unfaithful." If someone wants a 1:1 telling of the books, they should read the books.

I would agree with that for changes in first 3 seasons, which ultimately didn't change the story just simplified it. but now I'm starting to worry since they are actually rewriting events. And some of them seem really illlogical. I mean really why would they keep ghost in a cage and feed him their super limited food supply?

but have to wait and see ultimately.

coldhands might still show up  :wink:

also we are roughly on book 3, the only boring book was 4 - which was because of the chronological split which the series wont have.
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Post by: Molly on May 02, 2014, 04:27:21 pm
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Post by: Kalam on May 03, 2014, 06:54:04 pm
This is one of the instances where I prefer the tv series. My only real disappointment with it at the moment is the lack of Strong Belwas and Daario's new actor. This last episode definitely made me sit up and pay attention.
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Post by: Bittersteel on May 04, 2014, 04:43:31 pm
Sign the petition.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-stannis-baratheon-one-true-king-westeros/KTtsMHGx
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Post by: Miwiw on May 04, 2014, 05:11:57 pm
Stannis? He'll have his attention later on. He'll actually be the only king that acts like a king.
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Post by: Franke on May 04, 2014, 06:43:28 pm
Stannis is my man, but I will not create an account on that website just for him.
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Post by: Bittersteel on May 04, 2014, 08:44:42 pm
Stannis? He'll have his attention later on. He'll actually be the only king that acts like a king.


If Dumb&Dumber (D&D) will actually make it look that way. The way they've portrayed him up to this point have made me lost much interest in the show.


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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 04, 2014, 09:59:39 pm
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Post by: BASNAK on May 05, 2014, 05:14:45 pm
If I understood correctly Littlefinger said he poisoned Jon Arryn? Why? To marry his wife?
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Post by: Teeth on May 05, 2014, 05:26:42 pm
To stir up shit, shit during which he could sneakily skip some steps on the hierarchical ladder. Also, because a widowed Lysa is his easiest route to real power. At least I guess, personally I can't really get over the fact that killing Jon Arryn and setting up the Starks against the Lannisters is a complete hit or miss move, while he is supposed to be some prudent master schemer.
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Post by: Franke on May 05, 2014, 05:49:19 pm
To stir up shit, shit during which he could sneakily skip some steps on the hierarchical ladder. Also, because a widowed Lysa is his easiest route to real power. At least I guess, personally I can't really get over the fact that killing Jon Arryn and setting up the Starks against the Lannisters is a complete hit or miss move, while he is supposed to be some prudent master schemer.

Pretty much this. I cannot emphasize enough how much I detest Littlefinger.

I think that's exactly what's gonna happen.

As neither Jon nor Bran can die at this point of the story. I think they cannot afford to let the Craster's Keep events be more than a short intermezzo to troll overconfident book readers.

I imagine an epic showdown involving Jon and the leader of the mutineers and/or Locke in front of burning Craster's Keep with Bran and the Reeds getting away unrecognized by the Black Brothers


Kinda. I love that and how Bran/Hodor actively contributed to their own rescue.
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Post by: Molly on May 05, 2014, 06:13:51 pm
I switched to watch the real 1080p version but hell, it takes ages to get it :(
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Post by: Banok on May 05, 2014, 06:50:33 pm
littlefinger already said why in the shows; "chaos is a ladder".

I was a bit disapointed with the bloody gate. is it's supposed to be impenetrable. but in the show those cliffs are really not that high, they are basically just like normal walls which you could scale with a ladder.

its not supposed to be good but here is my rough sketch of how I think they should have looked.

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Post by: Molly on May 05, 2014, 07:25:12 pm
Long Live King Tyrion!

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Long may he reign... well, I wish it would be like that somehow. I love that little fellow :)
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 07, 2014, 05:43:55 pm
In the books they don't really ever say who killed Jon Arryn (or I missed it if they did), I was always under the impression the Lannisters (Cersei) were responsible for it.  So I thought it was kind of cool they explain it more in depth in the TV show. 

Also in the books (and TV series) I always really detested Littlefinger as well, but I always had much respect for his ability to play the game of thrones.  One of my favorite quotes from the book (that didn't make it into the tv show):

Littlefinger talking to Ned Stark:

"You wear your honor like a suit of armor...You think it keeps you safe, but all it does is weigh you down and make it hard for you to move."
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 07, 2014, 05:54:44 pm
But Jon Arryn knew the truth about Jaime and Cersei , why didn't they kill him? They may've talked Petyr in it like Lady Olenna does in the Purple Wedding.
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 08, 2014, 02:01:17 am
In the books they don't really ever say who killed Jon Arryn (or I missed it if they did), I was always under the impression the Lannisters (Cersei) were responsible for it.  So I thought it was kind of cool they explain it more in depth in the TV show. 

Also in the books (and TV series) I always really detested Littlefinger as well, but I always had much respect for his ability to play the game of thrones.  One of my favorite quotes from the book (that didn't make it into the tv show):

Littlefinger talking to Ned Stark:

"You wear your honor like a suit of armor...You think it keeps you safe, but all it does is weigh you down and make it hard for you to move."

Reread the last Sansa chapter in Storm of Swords, its one of the best ones in all the books. They took some material from it for this episode, and presumably the rest will be in the season finale.

To stir up shit, shit during which he could sneakily skip some steps on the hierarchical ladder. Also, because a widowed Lysa is his easiest route to real power. At least I guess, personally I can't really get over the fact that killing Jon Arryn and setting up the Starks against the Lannisters is a complete hit or miss move, while he is supposed to be some prudent master schemer.

Dude fucking loves Tullys and hates Starks. Ned Stark is the obvious replacement of Jon Arryn for Hand of the King. Assassinating Arryn would presumably bring Ned Stark to Littlefingers domain at King's Landing, widow up the Lady of the Vale who is obsessed with him, and give him opportunities to creep all over Cat.

As long as you remember Littlefingers motivations and history (spite for highborn, dueling Brandon over Cat's hand and getting owned as a teenager, being fostered at Riverrun by Lord Tully) his actions are very understandable.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 08, 2014, 11:10:03 am
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Post by: Overdriven on May 08, 2014, 01:55:48 pm
In the books they don't really ever say who killed Jon Arryn (or I missed it if they did), I was always under the impression the Lannisters (Cersei) were responsible for it.  So I thought it was kind of cool they explain it more in depth in the TV show. 

I always assumed Littlefinger, mainly because it's pretty much a given that he was the one to set up Tyrion with the dagger used to try and finish off Bran when he tells Catelyn that he lost the dagger to Tyrion in a bet. He clearly saw the opportunity to ferment further hate between the Lannisters and Starks and took it. From that point it becomes pretty obvious what game he is playing and where he is taking it. And considering his relationship to the Tully's it made a lot of sense.
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Post by: Freland on May 08, 2014, 03:10:41 pm
The books are as clear about who killed Jon Arryn as the series. Reread the last Sansa chapter of ASOS (easily on of the best chapters in all five books combined).

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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 08, 2014, 04:57:59 pm
Reread the last Sansa chapter in Storm of Swords, its one of the best ones in all the books. They took some material from it for this episode, and presumably the rest will be in the season finale.



Ahh thanks for that...I think when I was reading it in the books there was so much other stuff going on (Lysa going nuts over Sansa) that I overlooked that part (or forgot about it when recalling).
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Post by: Vibe on May 09, 2014, 01:40:16 pm
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Post by: Molly on May 09, 2014, 04:24:51 pm
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It took me like 20 seconds before I understood it :oops:

At first I thought it's some kind of beer mug and I was wondering how a mug correlates with Jaime L. but then... :D
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 09, 2014, 05:56:02 pm
Is it not a beer mug?
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Post by: Vibe on May 09, 2014, 06:47:30 pm
Is it not a beer mug?

it's a broken meat gripping device
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Post by: Franke on May 10, 2014, 08:19:51 pm
Preview video for episode 6:


Judging from what we see it seems that this episode will shift the focus away from the Nightswatch towards Stannis, Theon and the events in King's Landing.
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Post by: Miwiw on May 11, 2014, 02:45:35 am
Braavos...
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Post by: Molly on May 11, 2014, 08:35:23 am
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Post by: Franke on May 11, 2014, 11:14:45 am
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Post by: Miwiw on May 12, 2014, 06:09:55 pm
I know why Peter Dinklage is one of my favorite actors.
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Post by: Vibe on May 12, 2014, 06:16:05 pm
he mad
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Post by: Xant on May 12, 2014, 07:25:09 pm
Oberyn is cool. It's nice that they've almost-but-not-quite stopped the constant hints that he's bisexual. In previous episodes he was in it was bolded, underlined, and slammed into everyone's faces five times to make sure nobody could miss it.
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Post by: BASNAK on May 12, 2014, 07:29:54 pm
That speech by Tyrion in the end was awesome.
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Post by: Molly on May 12, 2014, 07:46:55 pm
That speech by Tyrion in the end was awesome.
Signed.
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Post by: Franke on May 12, 2014, 09:34:07 pm
Mace Tyrell is such a spine-less weakling, watching him act in this trial is disgusting.
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Post by: Osiris on May 12, 2014, 10:54:48 pm
yeah Tyrions speech is pro but at least the next bit should be great (not a spoiler)

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Post by: Bittersteel on May 13, 2014, 12:35:14 am
yeah Tyrions speech is pro but at least the next bit should be great (not a spoiler)


Holy shit, stop spoiling already, read the title of the thread.
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Post by: Miwiw on May 13, 2014, 01:32:15 am
That's not a spoiler. He demanded Trial by combat himself so you know its coming. And we all know that a trial by combat never gets denied. ;)
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Post by: Franke on May 13, 2014, 10:12:29 am
That's not a spoiler. He demanded Trial by combat himself so you know its coming. And we all know that a trial by combat never gets denied. ;)

I don't think that he was really serious about his comment.

I like the way the trial was shown in the show, characters fitting well into their role. Jaime was awesome (I'm not even sure if he made this special offer to Tywin in the books), if I think back how much I hated him in season 1...
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Post by: Vibe on May 13, 2014, 10:21:58 am
I don't think that he was really serious about his comment.

I like the way the trial was shown in the show, characters fitting well into their role. Jaime was awesome (I'm not even sure if he made this special offer to Tywin in the books), if I think back how much I hated him in season 1...

we hated him
now we love him
AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT COMES NEXT, RIGHT MARTIN

PS: this isn't an actual spoiler, I don't know what comes next
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Post by: Molly on May 13, 2014, 12:08:45 pm
That's not a spoiler. He demanded Trial by combat himself so you know its coming. And we all know that a trial by combat never gets denied. ;)
...and most combat was pretty well done up until now. So hopefully we're in for a treat next week :D
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Post by: Moncho on May 13, 2014, 12:39:00 pm
I don't think it will happen next week, I expect the conclusion to the trial to happen later in the season.
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Post by: Molly on May 13, 2014, 01:57:30 pm
Considering that there is a huge amount of stuff happening especially after the trial/fight, I think they kinda have to go on with it if they stick to their 10 episodes per season.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 13, 2014, 02:00:25 pm
I don't think that he was really serious about his comment.

I like the way the trial was shown in the show, characters fitting well into their role. Jaime was awesome (I'm not even sure if he made this special offer to Tywin in the books), if I think back how much I hated him in season 1...

Dat speech doe

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Post by: Franke on May 13, 2014, 02:31:14 pm
I also expect the trial to happen before the last episode.

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Post by: Bittersteel on May 13, 2014, 11:36:12 pm
It will happen in episode 8.

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Post by: Tot. on May 14, 2014, 02:12:41 am
In other words, as per usual most of the season is filler episodes since they are saving for the last two where something actually happens.

Also, now that the show has large audience and funding they might even hire a choreographer. Those fight scenes are embarassing.
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Post by: Xant on May 14, 2014, 02:58:46 am
The fuck are you talking about, "filler episodes"? Do you know what "filler" means? Rhetorical question...
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Post by: Banok on May 14, 2014, 04:07:04 am
I'm not actually complaining about this difference to the books but it is kind of funny

"where yara has been this season"

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After watching S4E6 I was surprised that Yara and the 30 "best killers" the Ironborn have to offer, get run off by a shirtless Ramsey doing a Mr. Burns.. (release the hounds) EDIT: This felt out of place in an otherwise outstanding episode

more nonsensical BS caused by deviating from the book.
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Post by: Tot. on May 14, 2014, 04:44:37 am
Moat Caillin held by Ironborn

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Dreadfort where Tyler Durden imitation Ramsay is

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So no. Nonetheless Ironborn bits were just horrible.


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Post by: Xant on May 14, 2014, 06:26:42 am
more nonsensical BS caused by deviating from the book.
Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...

It was just a bad scene. Find your excuses elsewhere.

What got me most in that scene is not that they were scared of the dogs, that's legit, the dogs could very well have been the thing that decided the battle for the other side, but... how does getting up the stairs help them against the dogs? Did they outrun the dogs? Or what? Suddenly the scene just cuts away.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 14, 2014, 07:28:26 am
I've watched the Game of Thrones porn parodies for what its worth. Not impressed
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Post by: HarunYahya on May 14, 2014, 07:37:55 am
Watch Spartacus' porn parody instead !
U get the feeling watching the same show just a lil bit more sex scenes,nothing else lol
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Post by: Molly on May 14, 2014, 08:14:02 am
Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...

It was just a bad scene. Find your excuses elsewhere.

What got me most in that scene is not that they were scared of the dogs, that's legit, the dogs could very well have been the thing that decided the battle for the other side, but... how does getting up the stairs help them against the dogs? Did they outrun the dogs? Or what? Suddenly the scene just cuts away.
Probably they went up the stairs, barring the door behind them to get a head start from the hounds. That's what I figured after this horrible insta-cut they made between cellar and plopping out at the shore.

Also, it was featured in the trailer for the episode and I was actually expecting way more than what they showed. It was clearly disappointing.
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Post by: Vibe on May 14, 2014, 09:26:51 am
In regards to that Theon scene, I was wondering why they didn't just smack Theon in the head and carried him out
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Post by: Gnjus on May 14, 2014, 10:12:23 am
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I'd fuck her, rather than the king.
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Post by: Teeth on May 14, 2014, 10:26:17 am
...and most combat was pretty well done up until now. So hopefully we're in for a treat next week :D
What, all the combat has been terrible.
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Post by: Xant on May 14, 2014, 10:27:58 am
What, all the combat has been terrible.
For some reason, the combat has been at its best in Jon Snow wooden sword scenes. Everywhere else, it's super slow and awkward looking. Especially that Jon Snow vs two-daggers-guy fight was painful to watch.
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Post by: NejStark on May 14, 2014, 11:32:35 am
last episode spoiler: alternate ending.

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Post by: HarunYahya on May 14, 2014, 12:17:29 pm
last episode spoiler: alternate ending.

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Post by: Franke on May 15, 2014, 04:00:55 am
I'm not actually complaining about this difference to the books but it is kind of funny

"where yara has been this season"

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more nonsensical BS caused by deviating from the book.

Interesting map; I have to admit that I missed this "little detail" of the plot. Tot is theoretically right about the shorter distance between Moat Cailin and Dreadford but she still would start her travel on the Iron Islands where season 3 finale shows her.
It would've been easier if the show writers would already have let her started in one of those occupied northern castle (where she is supposed to be due to the books anyway9

In the German version Theon's sister is named Asha. It took me ages to realize who that "yara" is...
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Post by: F i n on May 15, 2014, 11:38:56 am
Btw i think the didnt leave the dungeon in fear of the vicious dogs, but because realizing there's also one human dog down there - neither willed nor worthy of being saved. Dog's called reek.

So they did not really run away from the dogs (bcus obviously with a big sword and awareness u can fight dogs off easily). But understanding that their ironborn prince, now is merely human, takes away their motivation to fight.

"My Brother is dead." Makes that quite obvious. She doesn't seem to be sad. But really pissed off that he's given up. That the ironborn prince is now weak, which doesnt fit in the ironborn way of life at all.


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Post by: Xant on May 15, 2014, 12:10:07 pm
Uh... no.

They were clearly going to fight, or were at least undecided, before the dogs came into play. It was emphasized strongly, with the slow opening of the dog cage, etc., etc.

As for your "it's really easy to fight them with a big sword and awareness".... sigh. I would really fucking love to see you fight off multiple massive fighting dogs while their owners, also equipped with steel, come barging at you. Really, I'd pay to see that. And then hear your comments about how easy it was. I think my favorite pet peeve is starting to be nerds who state things about fighting manner-of-factly and claim things "easy" that they have no idea about.
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Post by: Lars on May 15, 2014, 12:51:45 pm
They should have worn a gas mask and pepper sprayed the dogs.
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Post by: F i n on May 15, 2014, 01:50:24 pm
Uh... no.

They were clearly going to fight, or were at least undecided, before the dogs came into play. It was emphasized strongly, with the slow opening of the dog cage, etc., etc.

As for your "it's really easy to fight them with a big sword and awareness".... sigh. I would really fucking love to see you fight off multiple massive fighting dogs while their owners, also equipped with steel, come barging at you. Really, I'd pay to see that. And then hear your comments about how easy it was. I think my favorite pet peeve is starting to be nerds who state things about fighting manner-of-factly and claim things "easy" that they have no idea about.

Oh boy... now that i'm called a nerd i'm going to act like one and give u a wall as an answer.

First of all: I love when ppl rage about other ppl calling other other ppl capabale or not capable of fighting other other other ppl.

I did not say, I was able to fight off dogs. But i guess wartrained Soldiers, killing stuff for a living would be able to. (Maybe now that i used color and size you will read it right)

But that's not even my main point. My main point is that u have to read between the lines. There are many symbolic actions in that scene that one might not notice when too much focused on barking dogs and swords.

For example the moment when he's at the lock and about to unleash the dogs....

First of all, if they'd really wanted to fight, they could've EASILY attacked the naked dude while he was opening the lock of the first cell - I mean he's doing that for like 10 seconds and they're 5 m away from each other. But there was some kind of insecurity in the air, caused by reeks resistance. They were of course holding on to their primary motivation of going there in the first place - but now they're like "what the hell is going on...", unable to get to a decision. That "release my brother and no more of your men will be harmed" was more halfhearted than determinant. While on the other hand, our naked dude's got quite the authority - and his side seems to be quite definite about their motives. Also, i would keep in mind, that even before that szene the ironborn lady had to fight a lot for her brother already (with her father, with her men, with theon himself)... and she was quite sure of doing the right thing - but now in that cell? After theon bit her? After he resisted? And after he repeated like 100 times that his name's reek? Im not so sure...

Second, even IF he'd release that ONE dog - are u telling me that would change everything? It would still be a fight, someone would not run from if this someone is a trained soldier and sure of the good cause.

Third, the scene doesn't close with him unlocking the door of the cell, but with 3, what i think important, moments :


1) Reek biting his sister (as mentioned above) ,
2) "you've got bigger balls than he ever had",
3) The very last frames of that scene are Reek's eyes and those of her sister. They have a last (not that friendly) eye contact in which she decides what to do next, since theon's already decided.

Thats the dramaturgical peak of the sister-brother-story.

So the cut's placed just right.


However, and that might enrage the more action-fanatic viewers amongst us, her conclusion and how the story goes on is not shown! 

When returning to the boat the only thing she says is "my brother is dead". So what to do with that?

We did not actually see the naked dude releasing the dogs - only him handling the lock.

But given, that dogs run faster than humans why are they not visible at the beach?

Did they maybe remain in the dungeon AFTER being released, feasting on the fallen?

Were they even released in the first place?

U can still hear them - closing in.

But that as well could be just a dramaturgical way of showing the fierce resistance of all the men and dogs in that keep - including reek (instead of actually meaning they're closing in).

You can blend with audio as well as with video.

But the Fact is we do not know.

However, there's those who are thinking about what happened in that scene, and then there are those who'd rather call others nerds and unknowing just because their need for dull scenes did not get statisfied. 

So spare me your "big-cock-I-am-so-much-better-than-you-talk" and piss off.

Maybe watch the episode again and try to actually watch it, not consume it.
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Post by: Xant on May 15, 2014, 01:54:05 pm
"One dog", did you even watch the episode?
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Post by: Molly on May 15, 2014, 01:54:30 pm
Oh snap.
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Post by: F i n on May 15, 2014, 01:55:44 pm
There's more than one door.

Opening one, does not open all.

Did u even watch real life - door opening?
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Post by: Xant on May 15, 2014, 01:57:42 pm
Opening multiple doors opens multiple doors.
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Post by: F i n on May 15, 2014, 01:59:20 pm
That's absolutely true.

But can u open multiple doors, while 3 ppl with swords attack you?

And don't tell me i have no idea how fighting works.

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Post by: Xant on May 15, 2014, 02:02:22 pm
Yes, I can, while I have my own people protecting me plus more dogs every door I open.

Seriously, that episode is not rocket science. It's very obvious to any non-retards what happened. Extremely obvious. It's underlined so everyone (well apparently not) will understand, just like Oberyn bisexuality. Theon's sister still wants Theon back even after he bites her. She even says so. But after the dogs come into play, she and Theon lock eyes, and she decides he's not worth enough to fight to almost certain death. Very clear cut.
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Post by: F i n on May 15, 2014, 02:07:53 pm
Yes, I can, while I have my own people protecting me plus more dogs every door I open.

Seriously, that episode is not rocket science. It's very obvious to any non-retards what happened. Extremely obvious. It's underlined so everyone (well apparently not) will understand, just like Oberyn bisexuality. Theon's sister still wants Theon back even after he bites her. She even says so. But after the dogs come into play, she and Theon lock eyes, and she decides he's not worth enough to fight to almost certain death. Very clear cut.

That is your opinion, which i accept.

Just note, that there are others too, and that insulting ppl is not the best way to communicate your own ideas.


Movies, just as books or music never just have 1 story to tell. But basically any story you want them to tell YOU.

Sharing that is cool.

Judging others is not.
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Post by: Xant on May 15, 2014, 02:09:05 pm
It's not my opinion, it's a fact. You can, of course, pretend that something different happened. But my version is the version the director and scriptwriter wanted to tell.
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Post by: Teeth on May 15, 2014, 03:45:56 pm
The entire scene was so awkward and dumb anyway. Never was a big fan of the entire Reek thing in the books either.
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Post by: NejStark on May 15, 2014, 04:55:08 pm
Yeah it was an awkward scene. I don't mind the Reek line though, in books or TV.
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Post by: Miwiw on May 15, 2014, 06:53:51 pm
In the German version Theon's sister is named Asha. It took me ages to realize who that "yara" is...

It's Asha in the books as well: http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Asha_Greyjoy

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In the TV series she is named Yara Greyjoy to avoid confusion with the wildling Osha and is played by Gemma Whelan.
That happens when people pronounce those 2 names the same... should actually possible to spot the difference as the two are totally different characters...
plus Osha wasn't mentioned since they parted way south of the wall.
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Post by: Franke on May 15, 2014, 11:58:21 pm
plus Osha wasn't mentioned since they parted way south of the wall.

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Post by: Smoothrich on May 16, 2014, 04:45:11 am
The reason that all ~save theon~ bit was terrible was because it was invented for the TV show, and these people are really fucking bad at original material.

No shit Tyron's confession was one of the best scenes this season, why? Because it's lifted entirely from the books, dialogue and all. Except a few lines from Shae were changed, for the worse, for no reason "He made me call him my giant of Lannister! *entire courtroom bursts out laughing, even Tywin breaks a smirk, leading to Tyrion's breakdown* if I recall. Changed it to "my lion of lannister" which lacks the oomph, scorn, irony and shame.

This should be by far the strongest season of the show but most/all of the invented scenes and filler plot are hackneyed and dull. GRRM's dialogue and characterizations are exceptionally clever, witty, snappy, and memorable, which makes sense as he is a talented writer with a long history of working in Hollywood on screenplays. The show is at its best when its working off the page, but pretty soon there will be no pages left to work from.

Next season is going to be hilarious/weird/shit/disappointing in some combination, I'm sure :(
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Post by: Banok on May 16, 2014, 09:48:25 am
Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...

It was just a bad scene. Find your excuses elsewhere.

What got me most in that scene is not that they were scared of the dogs, that's legit, the dogs could very well have been the thing that decided the battle for the other side, but... how does getting up the stairs help them against the dogs? Did they outrun the dogs? Or what? Suddenly the scene just cuts away.

I already pointed out a few plot holes in this thread, like caging wolf, feeding limited resources to wolf.

And I've skimmed asofai discussion enough to see just some of the many other plot holes more people have found who are smarter and more obsessed with the books than me. I'm not going to bother convincing you myself, sorry.

There have been alot of great scenes that aren't in the books, but all the plotline changes they have made have been riddled with holes and obsurdity. which is very contrasting to the high fidelity of events in the book.
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2014, 10:06:43 am
I already pointed out a few plot holes in this thread, like caging wolf, feeding limited resources to wolf.

And I've skimmed asofai discussion enough to see just some of the many other plot holes more people have found who are smarter and more obsessed with the books than me. I'm not going to bother convincing you myself, sorry.

There have been alot of great scenes that aren't in the books, but all the plotline changes they have made have been riddled with holes and obsurdity. which is very contrasting to the high fidelity of events in the book.
You obviously didn't understand what I said. There being plotholes isn't a counter argument at all. I'm not arguing that they don't often fuck up.
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Post by: NejStark on May 16, 2014, 12:19:23 pm
TL:DW catchup: http://imgur.com/a/H0wTs
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Post by: Franke on May 17, 2014, 03:47:35 am
Episode 7 preview

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Post by: Bittersteel on May 17, 2014, 04:29:53 pm
Lets fucking see Stannis go to the wall already, Sigh.
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Post by: Miwiw on May 18, 2014, 11:23:51 am
It's also time for the Greyjoys... but I doubt they'll do anything this season...
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Post by: Teeth on May 18, 2014, 03:53:29 pm
For those who haven't yet, probably many of you have and might have been mentioned before, check out Joe Abercrombie's The First Law trilogy and related stand-alone books if you liked ASOIAF. Not the same degree of insane world and lore building, but similarly intriguing and harsh. A big plus of these books over ASOIAF is that everyone is an asshole, instead of everyone slowly becoming boring good guys.
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Post by: Xant on May 18, 2014, 05:38:16 pm
The First Law is OK, but it's more generic fantasy than ASOIAF. Very clichéd and predictable and it doesn't have the sort of clever dialogue ASOIAF does.

Vlad Taltos series, on the other hand, is great.
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Post by: Falka on May 18, 2014, 06:10:54 pm
The First Law is OK, but it's more generic fantasy than ASOIAF. Very clichéd and predictable and it doesn't have the sort of clever dialogue ASOIAF does.

Vlad Taltos series, on the other hand, is great.

I prefer Abercrombie's style of writing, Martin's style becomes dull and "one-sided" very fast. According to me at least :P And "generic fantasy"? Maybe THe first law, though I'd say it's questionable too, but his other books; "The Heroes", "Best served cold" and "REd COuntry" have very little in common with typical fantasy.

Will have to check this Vlad Taltos.
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Post by: Xant on May 18, 2014, 06:22:10 pm
I've only read the the first book of the First Law from Abercrombie, granted. No idea about his other books. Didn't really feel motivated to continue reading afterwards -- I'd give it a 7/10. A good time-killer and well written, but not really a page turner. One of those "will read after I've read all the good stuff" series.
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Post by: Banok on May 19, 2014, 08:14:48 am
only complaint about episode 7 is how they are butchering gregor "the mountain" clegane's character into a shirtless conan esque barbarian cliche.

oh and I guess I was a bit like "really? sansa is that good as snow sculptures, ok if you say so."
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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 19, 2014, 09:50:29 am
Yeah the actor changes are kind of lame but what can you do... I preferred both the previous actor of the mountain, and the previous actor of that guy who swore alliegance to the Danaerys
Overall I thought the episode was great.

When that guy said he would be Tyrions champion and fight for him, I came a little in my pants. It sounded like Tyrion did too.  :wink:
I hope he kills the mountain! :D



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Post by: Teeth on May 19, 2014, 10:40:11 am
Gotta say, the casting of Oberyn is really growing on me. Had more of a Prince of Persia in my mind, but this actor is working out quite nicely.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 19, 2014, 01:44:02 pm
He's definitely my favorite new character for quite some time.
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Post by: BASNAK on May 19, 2014, 02:15:44 pm
Here's gifs of the next episode on the Trial by Combat that will be fought between the Mountain and Jon Snow.

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Post by: Angantyr on May 19, 2014, 02:42:35 pm
Oberyn comes very close to how I imagined him in the books.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 19, 2014, 03:30:39 pm
The First Law is OK, but it's more generic fantasy than ASOIAF. Very clichéd and predictable and it doesn't have the sort of clever dialogue ASOIAF does.

erm, but you do have noticed that he is using those cliches on purpose and then completely fucks them up, right? For me those books have lot of fantasy parodies combined with gritty real life stories. I would never compare them to ASOIAF, and I don't think Abercrombie ever intended to create something similar. And yes, each book seems to get better, you notice first law was his first attempt at being a author.

To add one huge pluspoint to that teeth mentioned: He writes fast. The first Book of his next Trilogy will be released in July this year and the third of it is planned to be released in July 2015, and so far he more or less kept his publishing plans.

Steven Brust sounds very interesting, will check out someday.
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Post by: Xant on May 19, 2014, 03:38:58 pm
Haven't really noticed him fucking up the clichés. There's the lithe Girl Warrior Who's Just As Good In Combat If Not Better As Her Male Counterparts and the Uncivilized Dumb Barbarian, etc...
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Post by: Kalam on May 19, 2014, 04:18:02 pm
Haven't really noticed him fucking up the clichés. There's the lithe Girl Warrior Who's Just As Good In Combat If Not Better As Her Male Counterparts and the Uncivilized Dumb Barbarian, etc...

I've only read the the first book of the First Law from Abercrombie, granted. No idea about his other books. Didn't really feel motivated to continue reading afterwards -- I'd give it a 7/10. A good time-killer and well written, but not really a page turner. One of those "will read after I've read all the good stuff" series.

Probably because of that ^. He subverts the tropes over time. His writing does get phenomenally better, too. By the time we get to the Heroes, he's on several levels above the First Law. You wouldn't like Best Served Cold, though, since you seem to have grown up somewhere where there aren't any strong women.

On GoT...who doesn't want to have Oberyn's babies?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on May 19, 2014, 04:26:14 pm
He does, though, in many ways. For example the great magician, the great warrior, and the noble Jezal set off to their great journey to retrieve some powerful magical artifact. Those are the cliches he uses, but then the journey turns out to be quiet different... Of course hard to discuss if you haven't read it.
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Post by: Kalam on May 19, 2014, 04:37:34 pm
He does, though, in many ways. For example the great magician, the great warrior, and the noble Jezal set off to their great journey to retrieve some powerful magical artifact. Those are the cliches he uses, but then the journey turns out to be quiet different... Of course hard to discuss if you haven't read it.

I think it's fairly easy, if you don't mind spoilers. I've never minded spoiling things. The great magician turns out to be more of a ruthless banker who has used the wealth and knowledge he's acquired through his practical immortality to manipulate nations. The barbarian is also a philosopher, who has a habit of killing his friends. Jezal, the 'hero', is something of a coward who nonetheless ends up having the only moral compass of anyone in the group. His victories are the result of someone else's machinations, and he becomes a puppet figure. All to encourage a war that none of the characters but one have a purpose in fighting. And what about Sand?

I'm not sure that sort of thing would translate as well to a tv show. His stand-alone books, however, seem perfect for translation to the big screen.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 19, 2014, 06:11:51 pm
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Post by: Molly on May 19, 2014, 07:10:40 pm
Just watched it and noticed my self go "Uuuuuh Uuuuuh", flapping my hands, when I saw the aunt watching the kiss :D
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Post by: Thorondor on May 19, 2014, 09:17:34 pm
shame on me for not predicting oberyn being tyrion's champion:D.good episode..
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Post by: Tor! on May 19, 2014, 09:24:29 pm
shame on me for not predicting oberyn being tyrion's champion:D.good episode..

I thought it was pretty obvious seeing the intrigued reaction when Tyrion wanted trial by combat.. But I think team Tyrion & Oberyn are gonna be interesting!
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Post by: Tibe on May 19, 2014, 09:33:46 pm
It was a good episode. Im happy.
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Post by: Franke on May 19, 2014, 10:53:47 pm
LOL, dat imp slap. Tyrion and Sansa really make a perfect couple  :D

And the Tyrion/Oberyn scene was magnificent!
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Post by: Osiris on May 19, 2014, 11:14:35 pm
tis a shame not being surprised by any of it :P almost wish i could forget the books until the series is over
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Post by: Xant on May 20, 2014, 12:01:13 am
A lot of that episode was straight from the book, dialogue and all. Very good. I'm glad they did Bronn justice, I was afraid they'd make him say he's too scared of fighting the Mountain etc.
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Post by: NejStark on May 20, 2014, 01:22:00 am
Rorge and Biter got less time than I thought they would...
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Post by: Franke on May 20, 2014, 01:26:29 am
Rorge and Biter got less time than I thought they would...

Aye, and Biter was supposed to bite someone else iirc...
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Post by: NejStark on May 20, 2014, 01:28:07 am
Aye, and Biter was supposed to bite someone else iirc...
Yeah exactly. We stray further from the path, but I like it :)
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Post by: HarunYahya on May 20, 2014, 03:44:37 am
My fucking god that arrogant cunt was daario nahariis ?
What happened to elvish actor QQ

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Post by: Oberyn on May 20, 2014, 05:49:23 am
Wasn't enough for you seeing her get raped by a Genghis Khan insert?
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Post by: HarunYahya on May 20, 2014, 06:14:20 am
Wasn't enough for you seeing her get raped by a Genghis Khan insert?
I would call any man a gay if he is satisfied with 1 sex scene of Khaleese in 4 years.
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 20, 2014, 06:28:29 am
I would call any man a gay if he is satisfied with 1 sex scene of Khaleese in 4 years.

Pretty sure the actress Emilia Clarke got her contract after season 3 to say she would perform no more nude scenes, to be a ~serious actress~~. Guess you need to get your Khaleesi ass fucking from the books :(
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Post by: Tibe on May 20, 2014, 06:55:40 am
Well theres always Game of Bones...
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Post by: Banok on May 20, 2014, 06:58:30 am
Sansa was always the lady of the starks, good at sewing and courteous behaviour and crap like that, so why shouldn't the lady be able to make snow sculptures when it snowed a lot in the north :P

It did actually occur to me that she might have had alot of practise making snow scultures, but what they had in that scene was very obviously not made by hand. ultimately it didn't matter at all just a minor quibble, which shows that it was actually one of the best episodes.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 20, 2014, 07:03:47 am
shame on me for not predicting oberyn being tyrion's champion:D.good episode..

Fucking awful episode with shit writing more like.

Everything telegraphed like a mother fucker. Ham fisted shit-ocolypse. It was day of our lives with(out) swords, their was that dagger but pfft.
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 20, 2014, 07:11:31 am
Fucking awful episode with shit writing more like.

Everything telegraphed like a mother fucker. Ham fisted shit-ocolypse. It was day of our lives with(out) swords, their was that dagger but pfft.

HBO's Game of Thrones is basically a slightly higher budget soap opera to begin with. They skip or rewrite almost every battle and scene with more than 2 people in a dimly lit room talking.

That leaves GRRM's dialogue as the saving grace of the show, and its at its worst when they change or ignore it. The best scenes from this (and most) episodes were just from the book entirely.

Have you even read the books, Frank? I don't know what you mean by telegraphed.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 20, 2014, 07:23:07 am
HBO's Game of Thrones is basically a slightly higher budget soap opera to begin with. They skip or rewrite almost every battle and scene with more than 2 people in a dimly lit room talking.

That leaves GRRM's dialogue as the saving grace of the show, and its at its worst when they change or ignore it. The best scenes from this (and most) episodes were just from the book entirely.

Have you even read the books, Frank? I don't know what you mean by telegraphed.

I've only read the first book about 3/4 of it.

What I mean by telegraphed is that the moment you see the mount it's obvious that Obyrn will be Tyrion's champion because his spent every episode telling anyone that will listen to him that "The mountain killed my sisters children and then raped her with their blood still on his hands!" He is in fact
sorry about the shitty song over the top of this awesome scene.

On top of that, all the moon door ranting gave away Peter tossing her down the whole. The moment you saw her standing next to it, it was just a slap in the face.

Personally I think that the problem is each episode has no clarity of vision because we bounce from place to place learning pretty much nothing new.

Tyrion's trail by combat should have been one stand alone episode and it should have been the latest one. That way you can save the reveal of the mount to that latest possible moment and make Oberyn a surprise. Instead every things been mapped out all of the interesting surprises available to us have been wasted on sloppy writing on the part of the script team.

They are too busy trying to do a crazy kind of lock n load meets rashomon with dragons thing instead of delivering tight, super fun episodes. Each one of these things could have been a roller-coaster instead it's like watching one of those stupid monitors on the fancy bikes in the gym that run a really crappy video of where you are riding.

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Post by: Overdriven on May 20, 2014, 08:06:34 am
In fairness those things are pretty bloody obvious in the book as well. So I wasnt really expecting a 'surprise' i the way they presented it. Particularly the moon door. We all know Baelish and his intentions by now, Im not sure how you could have presented that opportunity in a not obvious way.
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 20, 2014, 08:11:43 am
Personally I think that the problem is each episode has no clarity of vision because we bounce from place to place learning pretty much nothing new.

Tyrion's trail by combat should have been one stand alone episode and it should have been the latest one. That way you can save the reveal of the mount to that latest possible moment and make Oberyn a surprise. Instead every things been mapped out all of the interesting surprises available to us have been wasted on sloppy writing on the part of the script team.

They are too busy trying to do a crazy kind of lock n load meets rashomon with dragons thing instead of delivering tight, super fun episodes. Each one of these things could have been a roller-coaster instead it's like watching one of those stupid monitors on the fancy bikes in the gym that run a really crappy video of where you are riding.

I actually agree with this. If you keep reading the books, you will be surprised how some chapters contain like 4 episodes worth of plot for a single character. The books dance all over the place, but the chapters have great pacing, often end on hilarious twists, and there is an absolute shit ton of expanded characters and events that makes everything feel like a living, connected world.

This show is at its best when it takes its time in a setting, letting a mood and environment really sink in and getting the actor's to do some real work. Episode 9 of this season is supposed to be mostly (completely?) contained to one setting, like Battle of Blackwater Bay in episode 9 season 2, so maybe that will deliver.

In fact, in Storm of Swords, one of Tyrion's chapters begins with the last day of the trial, when Shae testifies, and you remain in his POV until the conclusion of his trial by combat. It is also one of the best and memorable chapters in the books.

Also you are describing "foreshadowing" which is a staple of storytelling. Its just the show, much like all popular TV shows, usually does it in a hamfisted way filled with exposition, to remind casual viewers who the characters and their motivations are.

If you remotely enjoy the idea behind this show, read the books, they are terrific.
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Post by: Teeth on May 20, 2014, 09:47:37 am
I don't think there is a big difference in the degree of unexpectedness of the moon door and Oberyn becoming the champion between the books and the series, can't really blame the series writing for it. It's not too hard to predict in either. Perhaps it is slightly more obvious in the series because they have to condense everything, which means certain remarks are still more fresh in your mind, but all the things that gave away the developments were there in the books. Also I think you overestimate the obviousness of these twists for many a fresh viewer, perhaps you are just very clever.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 20, 2014, 10:49:42 am
Foreshadowing is both totally important and totally legitimate. I felt however that in this episode it was more blatant which is why I called it telegraphing. It was just so painfully obvious where everything was going.

I've heard that a lot of it is following the books quiet well but somehow simultaneously wondering off on it's own.

Television as a medium is just so different. I think that something like GoT plays out better on TV than it would in film but I think that the show could be far more engaging episode to episode. The last two have been fairly disappointing. Oh and the opening sequence from "First of his name" was confusing and cut like crap (I hear that wasn't in the books at all).

 
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Post by: Xant on May 20, 2014, 12:26:57 pm
I've only read the first book about 3/4 of it.

What I mean by telegraphed is that the moment you see the mount it's obvious that Obyrn will be Tyrion's champion because his spent every episode telling anyone that will listen to him that "The mountain killed my sisters children and then raped her with their blood still on his hands!" He is in fact
sorry about the shitty song over the top of this awesome scene.

On top of that, all the moon door ranting gave away Peter tossing her down the whole. The moment you saw her standing next to it, it was just a slap in the face.

Personally I think that the problem is each episode has no clarity of vision because we bounce from place to place learning pretty much nothing new.

Tyrion's trail by combat should have been one stand alone episode and it should have been the latest one. That way you can save the reveal of the mount to that latest possible moment and make Oberyn a surprise. Instead every things been mapped out all of the interesting surprises available to us have been wasted on sloppy writing on the part of the script team.

They are too busy trying to do a crazy kind of lock n load meets rashomon with dragons thing instead of delivering tight, super fun episodes. Each one of these things could have been a roller-coaster instead it's like watching one of those stupid monitors on the fancy bikes in the gym that run a really crappy video of where you are riding.
So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.
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Post by: Vibe on May 20, 2014, 12:41:34 pm
someone's gonna die, that's my prediction
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Post by: Moncho on May 20, 2014, 12:55:56 pm
someone's gonna die, that's my prediction
Well that's usually what happens when there is a duel to the death, but hey, kudos on the predictive abilities
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 20, 2014, 01:33:13 pm
So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.

My guess is Oberyn will hurt the mountain, seriously fuck him up in revenge for the death of his sister and the last possible moment the mountain will just crush his skull or snap his neck or something like that.

What I don't know (edit) is if Tyrion will die as a result of the whole thing or receive his original punishment of banishment to the wall. But Oberyn is going to die that's my guess, it would be too clean if he won and go against what keeps happening in this show. I just wonder who else is going to die in the next couple of episodes to send the whole thing cascading into a deeper level of madness.

I'm waiting for Jon Snow to crack and kill some old stupid people.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 20, 2014, 01:37:31 pm
I'm looking forward to see how they play it out. Will be awesome if they get it right  :D
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Post by: NejStark on May 20, 2014, 05:26:48 pm
My fucking god that arrogant cunt was daario nahariis ?
What happened to elvish actor QQ

He left out of choice iirc
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Post by: Chosen1 on May 20, 2014, 05:48:26 pm
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 20, 2014, 06:40:16 pm
So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.

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Post by: NejStark on May 20, 2014, 07:55:26 pm
Chill you fucking mugs.

Preview for next episode
http://www.hbouk.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/clip/episode-preview-the-mountain-and-the-viper/
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Post by: Franke on May 20, 2014, 09:32:33 pm
Chill you fucking mugs.

Preview for next episode
http://www.hbouk.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/clip/episode-preview-the-mountain-and-the-viper/

So the castle they show about 10 seconds into the clip is Moat Cailin? Not quite how I imagined it, but that'S only an impression from a like 2-second-exceprt...
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 21, 2014, 01:51:12 am
So I'm guessing I was right then.

I've got more, you want more of pointless predictions? No cure for being a cunt!

Tywin will die because his the only really important person left that you can kill off that will cause turmoil instead of just ending a "story line". Can't kill Stanis yet because his just idling round, in fact killing Tywin will make it more likely for the Iron Bank to hand him more money. You can't kill Daenerys because it won't lead to anything other than her army falling apart. Jon Snow is too interesting and there is no one to replace him as the "lead" at the wall so that would a pointless thing to do this season. Of the major plots going on the only one you can disrupt and cause some serious bs to happen with is what I'll call the "Kings Landing Plot" and the only thing you can do there that would actually cause things to happen is killing Tywin, he is keeping the whole thing together.
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Post by: Molly on May 21, 2014, 08:47:06 am
Keep dem predictions coming!

What about Cersei? And Tyrion? And the Kingslayer?
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Post by: Vibe on May 21, 2014, 09:43:35 am
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 21, 2014, 01:24:51 pm
Keep dem predictions coming!

What about Cersei? And Tyrion? And the Kingslayer?

Tyrion to the wall Cersei as regent no idea about old one hand.
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Post by: Xant on May 21, 2014, 03:07:43 pm
Stupid TV show with its crappy writing, they dare foreshadow things! I prefer my TV shows with deus ex machinas, the critics absolutely love that stuff too. To prove how bad the writing is, I will now predict the events that will take place in the Free Cities in Dance with Dragons:

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Just predictin', we'll see if it comes true!!!
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 21, 2014, 03:31:44 pm
Stupid TV show with its crappy writing, they dare foreshadow things! I prefer my TV shows with deus ex machinas, the critics absolutely love that stuff too. To prove how bad the writing is, I will now predict the events that will take place in the Free Cities in Dance with Dragons:

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Just predictin', we'll see if it comes true!!!

There's foreshadowing and then there is what I believe happened in that episode. Really every scene was fine, it could have just been cut in a more imaginative way, with the exception of Oberyn's scene which would have had to have been moved to a completely different time and setting. That could have created more drama and left me and my friends, I'm not alone in this. My film and writer friends all echo my sentiments more or less.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. But your snide uppity Finnish BS sure fell flat on it's snowy arse didn't it.
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Post by: Xant on May 21, 2014, 04:09:16 pm
Anyway, it doesn't matter. But your snide uppity Finnish BS sure fell flat on it's snowy arse didn't it.
Nope. Your whiny bitching about one of the best received TV shows in history fell flat on its ass.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 21, 2014, 04:19:43 pm
Get a room you two  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 21, 2014, 05:14:05 pm
Nope. Your whiny bitching about one of the best received TV shows in history fell flat on its ass.

lol, the fuck, what kind of fanboy shit is this, sounds like he insulted one of your precious animes


also, frank was engaging with the TV show as a work of art, with a few critical observations about how decisions in editing for the season's pacing is making him enjoy the show less and explaining why, responding to posts with his points of view, as we post our own. That is called a "conversation" about "something we like talking about."

Has anyone ever met a decent Fin? When a country is so shit that even Russia passed over annexing it, its probably the people themselves fault.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 21, 2014, 05:20:09 pm
lol, the fuck, what kind of fanboy shit is this, sounds like he insulted one of your precious animes

It's called reality, broski.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=nv_sr_1
See rating.

And:

Won 1 Golden Globe. Another 58 wins & 117 nominations
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/awards?ref_=tt_awd

And:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game-of-thrones/
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Post by: Oberyn on May 21, 2014, 06:28:51 pm
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That being said, the highpoint of the book series is a Storm of Swords, and we're already passed it in some of the storylines. As far as I'm concerned it's all downhill from there. I think that's why we're seeing so much more deviations from the book version compared to previous seasons. The further we get away from SoS and into Feast for Crows (popularly known as the boring one), the more changes will appear. I can't help but be reactionary on these changes, but maybe they will be better.
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Post by: Xant on May 21, 2014, 06:33:42 pm
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Don't even have to talk about it with friends, he's clicking on threads talking about the show- and people either spoil shit intentionally or try to be super "subtle" about it and failing. You can't help picking shit up if you read forums discussing GoT.

And Feast was boring, but didn't you think Dance was pretty good?
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Post by: Vibe on May 21, 2014, 06:54:05 pm
Rome > GoT imo
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 21, 2014, 06:58:04 pm
Currently reading feast for crows, and it does drag on for so much. I've gone half the book with hardly any Snow, Stannis, Arya, Bran anything with excitement. Too much focus is on Brienne, Jaime, Dorne and the Iron Islands
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Post by: Teeth on May 22, 2014, 12:31:50 am
Gotta say, Feast of Crows felt like a huge drag first time I read it. Think it took me well over a month to finish it, compared to within a week for all the other ones. Recently I re-read all the books because I finally bothered to get my hands on Dance of Dragons and I quite enjoyed Feast for Crows. I presume that has to do with me already knowing how the story develops on my second read, so having all the important characters put on hold didn't bother me as much. What is left then is a book fleshing out some new story lines with a lot of background lore and worldbuilding. The whole Dorne thing, the Greyjoy business and the Eyrie were quite cool the second time I read it. Though still hate the fucking Brienne shit.
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Post by: Sharpe on May 22, 2014, 12:36:24 am
Did anyone else skip over the Daenerys parts of the books? When I read them those were the most boring chapters to me.
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Post by: Teeth on May 22, 2014, 12:42:57 am
I find Daenerys a lame and annoying character and I let out the occasional sigh at the start of a Daenerys chapter, but skipping over stuff in any book, let alone ASOIAF, is plain old blasphemy.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on May 22, 2014, 01:54:11 am
Rome > GoT imo

If only the BBC had had the balls to push it for four seasons with HBO. Rome was brilliant.
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Post by: Chosen1 on May 22, 2014, 04:57:40 am
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Post by: Freland on May 22, 2014, 09:59:24 am
If you want to read AFFC and ADWD again I strongly recommend to read the chapters in chronological order. I think this is the right way to read because GRRM orinally did not plan to split up the books geograpically but had to because the book was getting to long.

 Here is the proposed order: http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a (http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a)
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Post by: HarunYahya on May 22, 2014, 12:25:51 pm
If you want to read AFFC and ADWD again I strongly recommend to read the chapters in chronological order. I think this is the right way to read because GRRM orinally did not plan to split up the books geograpically but had to because the book was getting to long.

 Here is the proposed order: http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a (http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a)
I haven't read AFFC & ADWD but if thats what GRRM inspired while writing SOFIAF, I'll take a look at it. I've read JRRT's LOTR it was gr8. Also played KOTOR after my 3 years of LOTRO experience, both fails compared to WOW. Still better than COD, MoH and .... fuck tired of it you get the fucking point.
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Post by: Umbra on May 22, 2014, 07:00:55 pm

This is the best thing on youtube.
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Post by: Sharpe on May 22, 2014, 08:42:45 pm
This is the best thing on youtube.

The Cersei bit is the best thing of the best thing on youtube.
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Post by: Moncho on May 22, 2014, 11:32:26 pm
:O I just found out that there is no episode this weekend :( will have to wait another week to se how it unfolds
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Post by: Osiris on May 22, 2014, 11:57:46 pm
I haven't read AFFC & ADWD but if thats what GRRM inspired while writing SOFIAF, I'll take a look at it. I've read JRRT's LOTR it was gr8. Also played KOTOR after my 3 years of LOTRO experience, both fails compared to WOW. Still better than COD, MoH and .... fuck tired of it you get the fucking point.
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but but AFFC and ADWD are Ice and fire books O.o
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Post by: Bittersteel on May 23, 2014, 11:22:46 am
Good to see that you are hanging on to the thread like always Osiris.
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Post by: Tiger on May 24, 2014, 08:04:42 am
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 26, 2014, 08:59:49 pm
no episodes this week? :O
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 26, 2014, 09:41:10 pm
no episodes this week? :O

No cuz it's Memorial Day in USA but also i heard they want the last season episode to be held on Fathers Day (book ppl will know why)
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Post by: Teeth on May 27, 2014, 09:33:55 am
No cuz it's Memorial Day in USA but also i heard they want the last season episode to be held on Fathers Day (book ppl will know why)
You are probably convinced that you are being very subtle but you're not.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 27, 2014, 10:58:00 am
You are probably convinced that you are being very subtle but you're not.

I'm as subtle as Panos in the ghetto.
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Post by: Tiger on June 02, 2014, 03:43:52 am
Some of the actor's actual voice accents.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/63472/game-of-thrones-actors-with-their-actual-accents (http://www.dorkly.com/post/63472/game-of-thrones-actors-with-their-actual-accents)
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Post by: Xant on June 02, 2014, 06:05:12 am
Great fight! I liked the spear handling, first time a fighter looked like they might have some proficiency with their weapon of choice. This fight was less clumsy than the others. Also, that death was probably one of the most graphic in TV history.

Although the Mountain had a bit too much of "I'll stand here and wait for you to do your thing", I guess.
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Post by: Banok on June 02, 2014, 07:00:55 am
Great fight! I liked the spear handling, first time a fighter looked like they might have some proficiency with their weapon of choice. This fight was less clumsy than the others. Also, that death was probably one of the most graphic in TV history.

Although the Mountain had a bit too much of "I'll stand here and wait for you to do your thing", I guess.

it was still a bit clumsy, if thats the word for it. (some of the editing cuts didnt quite match up to me). but yes it was alot better than previous. fucking fantastic scene, some stuff is always going to be way more hard hitting visually than in pages!

edit: watching it again and I must say one critque. why the fuck would he be swinging that sword 1 handed, mountain obv played too much darksouls.

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Post by: Tibe on June 02, 2014, 07:16:04 am
That was gruesome. Tbh i kept looking at the damn timer the entire time, before the fight. When he started talking about beetles and seeing that there was only like 6 minutes left till the end of the episode I  was frankly quite scared that GoT had fucked us and dragged the dialog so long again that the fight would happen in the next weeks episode. But they got it in there and im pleased. Good episode.
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Post by: Apsod on June 02, 2014, 07:18:23 am
That was gruesome. Tbh i kept looking at the damn timer the entire time, before the fight. When he started talking about beetles and seeing that there was only like 6 minutes left till the end of the episode I  was frankly quite scared that GoT had fucked us and dragged the dialog so long again that the fight would happen in the next weeks episode. But they got it in there and im pleased. Good episode.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
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Post by: Xant on June 02, 2014, 08:43:47 am
it was still a bit clumsy, if thats the word for it. (some of the editing cuts didnt quite match up to me). but yes it was alot better than previous. fucking fantastic scene, some stuff is always going to be way more hard hitting visually than in pages!

edit: watching it again and I must say one critque. why the fuck would he be swinging that sword 1 handed, mountain obv played too much darksouls.
It's because the Mountain was famous for swinging a two-handed sword with one hand.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 02, 2014, 10:11:17 am
Why I am so sad ? I knew that was going to happen for like 2 years now, but I watched it like 5 times, and my inner voice screamed like Ellaria everytime.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2014, 10:41:24 am
That was pretty gory. Splat like that.


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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 12:02:41 pm
I lot better than the last episode, the only cornball writing was mole town. Seems like everything lifted from the books is a whole lot better than everything added in by the writers/producers.

Guessed the outcome but I thought he was going to punch his head into dust or stomp him, not that, that was horrific.
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Post by: HarunYahya on June 02, 2014, 12:36:31 pm
Agiwhore spear spammer died by 2h mastergorillarace str clutcher.
Nothing surprising but I was expecting a longer and more intense fight, not very satisfied though tbh.
All my GoT experience can be summed as "not very satisfied tho tbh" anyway  :lol:
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Post by: Xant on June 02, 2014, 12:52:48 pm
GoT might not be perfect, but people who are still whining about it, considering the other shows on TV....


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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 12:58:05 pm
GoT might not be perfect, but people who are still whining about it, considering the other shows on TV....


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Or we aren't clawing at the electric box in the living room begging for relief from our awful lives.

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The scene when Arys and the hound arrive at the bloody gate was awesome, loved that.
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Post by: Xant on June 02, 2014, 01:02:24 pm
Or we aren't clawing at the electric box in the living room begging for relief from our awful lives.
No, instead you're getting on an online forum trying to get attention by being "special" for relief from your awful lives.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 02, 2014, 01:11:50 pm
Agiwhore spear spammer died by 2h mastergorillarace str clutcher.
Nothing surprising but I was expecting a longer and more intense fight, not very satisfied though tbh.
All my GoT experience can be summed as "not very satisfied tho tbh" anyway  :lol:

Nothing is ever going to equal what you can visualize in your head as you read. To really do the books justice it would've had to be some insane 12 movie series each with the budget of a LOTR production. The TV show has done extremely well with what they had imo, and it's the only realistic way the novels were ever going to be portrayed on screen. As far as adaptations go they've been doing allright. And by allright I mean critical and popular acclaim. 
Like a lot of people I read the book years ago so all the little changes and additions seem like superfluous bullshit. I grudgingly agree with Xant that it's mostly a "hipster" type thing though. A completely undeserved sense of ownership over some piece of culture just because you've known about it for longer. The fat fuck himself greenlighted the show and wrote a few episodes, and editorializes the rest. There might be separate "canon" between the tv show and the book, but that's also due to the nature of the medium. A TV show is a collaborative process, the actors alone can add a whole facet to a character, not to mention the other producers and writers all having their own styles with strengths and weaknesses. And of course the physical and budgetary limitations. 

TL;DR: just accept it's not a perfect adaptation of the books and enjoy it for what it is.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 01:59:06 pm
I never read the books Oberyn, my issues with it have been writing/production/editing etc etc Purely from the angle of it as a piece of episodic television.

Some of it is done brilliantly. It gains plaudits and crazy levels of praise and often deserves some or most of it. It isn't however perfect and has had episodes that fall flat on their arse. That's just my subjective opinion, doesn't make it a fact. At the end of the day productions turn out as well as the can, their are so many moving parts and so many things that can go wrong. It's a small miracle any time anything this big even gets half finished.


TL:DR Xant is a quarr.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2014, 02:04:23 pm
Agiwhore spear spammer died by 2h mastergorillarace str clutcher.
Nothing surprising but I was expecting a longer and more intense fight, not very satisfied though tbh.
All my GoT experience can be summed as "not very satisfied tho tbh" anyway  :lol:


Nerf Ironflesh plz
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Post by: BASNAK on June 02, 2014, 02:22:20 pm
Another good character dies.

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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 02, 2014, 02:46:02 pm
Another good character dies.

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More to come! ALWAYS MORE TO COME!

One of the things I thought was going to happen didn't. The bastard had such a smug look on his face and I just thought "YOU'RE GUNNA GET JACK ASS HAHAHHAHAA... Oh wait, that's the credits... poop."
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Post by: no_rules_just_play on June 02, 2014, 02:55:54 pm
Another good character dies.

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two characters* (unless tyrion gets away with it)
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Post by: Bjarky on June 02, 2014, 03:31:12 pm
Wow that gore, i was also quite worried about wether we got to finally see the fight  :shock:


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Post by: Algarn on June 02, 2014, 04:56:39 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2014, 05:24:00 pm
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Spuuuilerzz
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Post by: Rogue on June 02, 2014, 06:51:55 pm
I loved the books and find the series to be very enjoyable. Despite knowing what's going to happen, I could not stop myself thinking "Finish him now, come on do it!".

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Post by: HarunYahya on June 02, 2014, 07:01:18 pm
Stop posting fucking spoilers please, I am addicted to click on them lol
TL;DR: just accept it's not a perfect adaptation of the books and enjoy it for what it is.
Haven't read any books from George R.R. Martin, talking about the TV show, that battle should have lasted more imo. Such an epic ending,arrived quicker than I expected.
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Post by: Xant on June 02, 2014, 07:09:07 pm
Why are people even posting spoilers? What is the point? Why are you stating facts that everyone who has read the books knows and people who haven't and don't want to be spoiled aren't going to click? And if someone does want to be spoiled, I assure you there are better places to find out the plot than a cRPG forum.

I mean it's one thing to discuss book shit, another is just to go
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Post by: Molly on June 02, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
Just watched it... Holy shit :shock:
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Post by: Vibe on June 02, 2014, 08:11:56 pm
guys is oberyn gonna be ok?
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Post by: Cicero on June 02, 2014, 08:13:17 pm
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

ma champion
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Post by: Franke on June 02, 2014, 08:13:23 pm
Why I am so sad ? I knew that was going to happen for like 2 years now, but I watched it like 5 times, and my inner voice screamed like Ellaria everytime.

This. It's a pity Oberyn had to die; a great character, an almost perfect cast, lasted for only 8 episodes...  :(
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 02, 2014, 09:36:34 pm
If you had to choose IRL by getting killed by Mountain and having your face smashed and eyes crushed or being killed while sitting on the toilet which would you choose? (Emburruuusing when paramedics come)

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Post by: Erzengel on June 02, 2014, 09:56:10 pm
Worst episode ever. I need a therapy now...
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Post by: Franke on June 02, 2014, 10:39:17 pm
Worst episode ever. I need a therapy now...

Maybe not the worst, I liked the Roose/Ramsay scene, and Sansa's transformation left me speechless, too, but Oberyn's death... WTF?
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Post by: Mendro on June 02, 2014, 10:50:43 pm
Str whore > Agi whore
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Post by: Osiris on June 02, 2014, 10:57:45 pm
probably the scene i was most disappointed with in the book :/ I just feel it would be much more exciting later on with oberyn still around

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Post by: Beauchamp on June 02, 2014, 11:46:50 pm
for the very 1st moment i liked that older stark chick.

as for the fight i expected some fucked up result, but not really this. i hope they have some good brain surgeon in kings landing.
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Post by: Gurnisson on June 02, 2014, 11:53:29 pm
I could imagine Oberyn being good with spears, being bisexual and all
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 03, 2014, 12:24:33 am
for the very 1st moment i liked that older stark chick.

Another thing they've done good in the show. Of course Sansas 'change' it is going on more detailed and gradually in the books but they nailed it anyway.

Also I liked the additional 'non-canon' scene with Sandor and Arya, "Lady Arryn died 3 days ago", was hilarious.
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Post by: Havoco on June 03, 2014, 12:25:10 am
Whoever is doing the facial makeup is doing one helluva job this season. Between oberyns destroyed head and joffreys face.  :shock: 

Really looking forward to the castle black situation btw
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Post by: Patoson on June 03, 2014, 12:28:24 am
I'm gonna need some therapy too... I was expecting that things could go wrong, but that was just too much...  :cry:
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Post by: Osiris on June 03, 2014, 12:30:55 am
unless memory fails me it was just a punch in the books :D surprised me a little
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Post by: Umbra on June 03, 2014, 12:37:55 am
In the books Oberyn is on top of the mountain, he pulls him in a lovers embrace and shouts the confession in his ear, they wrestle for a bit (while the broken vipers spear is inside the mountain). He pulls him back and, with one hand, holds his head while puncturing his eye. With the other hand he delivers a gruesome skullcracking punch.

Also, looking forward to the wildling fight
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2014, 01:12:34 am
In the books Oberyn is on top of the mountain, he pulls him in a lovers embrace and shouts the confession in his ear, they wrestle for a bit (while the broken vipers spear is inside the mountain). He pulls him back and, with one hand, holds his head while puncturing his eye. With the other hand he delivers a gruesome skullcracking punch.

Also, looking forward to the wildling fight
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Only part i'm looking forward to that fight is that the best character in the entire series will hopefully/eventually pop up.
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Post by: Teeth on June 03, 2014, 01:44:02 am
I shall never stop being butthurt about Oberyn dying, that character had so much more potential, the very cheap thrill of getting him killed in this scene is totally not worth the waste.

Nevertheless, his choreography was pretty damn cool, finally someone that swings a weapon faster than a cow. As for building up to this scene for two episodes I think they could've made a lot more from it. Kinda missed the nigh-impregnability of his inhumanely thick plate which required the use of sneaky tactics and accurate attacks by Oberyn, worked pretty well in the books. Also at the end bit it kinda gave of the impression that the Mountain was faking it and was reasonably okay, whereas in the books Oberyn really got close and Gregor killed him with just his arm strength while being speared to the floor. Just kinda strange to see someone wrestle himself on top of someone and speak normally while getting a pretty large spearhead straight through the body. They should have just made it longer.
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Post by: Umbra on June 03, 2014, 01:52:57 am
Some argue that he died because he did not have that much potential, plot wise. I agree, as an actor, that he was awesome but he had a singular purpose in KL, revenge. Singular purpose is not good for ones life expectancy in GOT, im afraid  :?
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Post by: Sir_Hans on June 03, 2014, 05:29:19 am
Noooo oberyn & tyrion...  :cry: tyrion must live!

Just when oberyn shows us how cool it is to be a bisexual spear dude, his head kersplodes.
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Post by: Sharpe on June 03, 2014, 05:36:55 am
Reading about it could not prepare me for Oberyns fancy flips and shit.

And even though I read it I was still in shock for 6 minutes after I saw Oberyns head go kersploosh.
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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2014, 06:34:53 am
They're going to introduce more new characters from the Oberynlands, fear not.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 03, 2014, 06:37:37 am
Another thing they've done good in the show. Of course Sansas 'change' it is going on more detailed and gradually in the books but they nailed it anyway.

Also I liked the additional 'non-canon' scene with Sandor and Arya, "Lady Arryn died 3 days ago", was hilarious.

Loved that scene, it made the whole episode for me. It was perfect. It was almost pythonesq "We're here to see Lady Aryn." "She's dead." "bwahahahahahah"
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Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2014, 08:30:40 am
They're going to introduce more new characters from the Oberynlands, fear not.

are they all male and masters of the "pole"?
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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2014, 08:53:17 am
Their mastery of the pole is unprecedented indeed.
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Post by: Molly on June 03, 2014, 09:49:32 am
Loved that scene, it made the whole episode for me. It was perfect. It was almost pythonesq "We're here to see Lady Aryn." "She's dead." "bwahahahahahah"
That scene made me even more fond of Arya :D
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Post by: Oberyn on June 03, 2014, 10:41:10 am
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Dat head pop

Also, hilarious reaction:



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Post by: Franke on June 03, 2014, 10:48:09 am
Really looking forward to the castle black situation btw

S04E09 preview:

http://www.hbouk.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/clip/episode-preview-the-watchers-on-the-wall/
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Post by: Oberyn on June 03, 2014, 11:11:03 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2014, 01:06:27 pm
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Tell him to stay dead.
Also first mountain was better.

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Just look at the comparisons. He looks way more badass than the other two.

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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2014, 02:36:41 pm
Yeah, the last Mountain just looks like a bodybuilder. Doesn't look mean enough.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 03, 2014, 02:46:51 pm
Why did Kelly-C kick out Jorah, Lord of Friendzone? I thought that was pretty sad. He was loyal to her and saved her life. And Kelly-C is no longer ma nigga because of that.

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Post by: Vibe on June 03, 2014, 02:58:43 pm
I think at this point George RRM would do a favour to lord friendzone if he killed him.
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Post by: Umbra on June 03, 2014, 03:05:29 pm
Dont rule out Brorah the Mandal just yet. He is one of my favourite book chars.

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2014, 03:06:37 pm
Why did Kelly-C kick out Jorah, Lord of Friendzone? I thought that was pretty sad. He was loyal to her and saved her life. And Kelly-C is no longer ma nigga because of that.


Daenerys is a whore, blonde ass slut.


She's also jealous she will never be half as cool as the True King of Westeros a.ka King Stannis the first of his name.
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Post by: Sagar on June 03, 2014, 03:37:46 pm
Yea, Conan Stevens was better as "Mountain".
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Post by: Franke on June 03, 2014, 04:59:10 pm
Dont rule out Brorah the Mandal just yet. He is one of my favourite book chars.

But he indeed is a bit boring, which is kinda a life insurance in the GoT universe...
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 03, 2014, 06:58:43 pm
Just me or did Sansa's scene seem abit off? If I remember correctly Sansa was alot more manipulative in the books when she told 'em about it.


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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 03, 2014, 07:01:55 pm
But he indeed is a bit boring, which is kinda a life insurance in the GoT universe...

Yeah but
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Post by: Turkhammer on June 03, 2014, 07:49:00 pm
Str whore > Agi whore

Buahhaaaha, yes indeed.
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Post by: Xant on June 03, 2014, 11:08:27 pm
Just me or did Sansa's scene seem abit off? If I remember correctly Sansa was alot more manipulative in the books when she told 'em about it.


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Huh? Sansa couldn't possibly have been more manipulative?
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 03, 2014, 11:49:46 pm
I recall her being so for whatever reason.
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Post by: Tagora on June 04, 2014, 02:17:23 am
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sorry if this has been posted before, too good to pass up!
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Post by: Chosen1 on June 04, 2014, 03:47:53 am
Possible spoilers if this theory is correct, this uses no sources from any books but read at your own risk

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Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2014, 05:49:17 am
Possible spoilers if this theory is correct, this uses no sources from any books but read at your own risk

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Post by: Chosen1 on June 04, 2014, 05:51:35 am
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o_o I never heard about it until today  :(
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Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2014, 05:59:42 am
I'm surprised there aren't more 4chan and other assholes going all over the internet deliberately posting spoilers tbh. That one is a theory but it's accepted by most people who've heard about it, just makes too much sense. Might as well be a spoiler.
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Post by: Umbra on June 04, 2014, 08:35:59 am
wot the fok did ye just say 2 me m8? i rebeled against the Nights Watch and im the sickest bloke ull ever meet & ive nicked ova 300 lemoncakes frum tha royal kitchen. i havent lost a fight since I was nine & im the strongest foker in tha entire Gin Alley. yer nothin to me but a skull to drink out of w/ curly hair & fancy leather. ill waste u and fuk u til ur ded, i swer 2 the seven. u look like a fokin ballsack, ugly looken’ stupid kuntface. ya think u can fokin run ya gabber at me whilst sittin on yer arse behind a lil screen? think again wanka. im callin me mutineers rite now preparin for a proper rape. A roomble thatll make old nan sore jus hearin about it. yer a waste bruv. i was the top paid cuthroat in flea botom. u wouldnt stand a chance. none've yous would. i was a fooken LEGEND in Gin Alley. the fooken LEGEND. i would take any knight, ANY KNIGHT ANY TIME. Fooken cunts in steel plate. me crew be all over westoros & ill slash ya to a proper fokin pulp with me knifes wanka. if i aint satisfied w/ that ill borrow me m8s warhamma & see if that gets u the fok out o' the north ya daft kunt. if ye had seen this bloody fokin mess commin ye might neva hav left ur daddys castle. but it seems yea stupid lil twat, innit? ima spit fury & ull drown in it m8. ur ina proper mess knob.


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Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2014, 09:11:27 am
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sorry if this has been posted before, too good to pass up!

An accurate description of dysentery. Prob the biggest killer of soldiers throughout history.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2014, 10:24:03 am
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sorry if this has been posted before, too good to pass up!

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Post by: Moncho on June 04, 2014, 10:26:43 am
You guys should really make a new thread to talk about ASoIaF (the books), and let the show watchers enjoy this one relatively spoiler-free
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Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2014, 10:40:02 am
jon sno kills dumbledore
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Post by: Artyem on June 04, 2014, 10:55:23 am
I don't watch the show, but I basically follow the plot thanks to Imgur being 90% GoT posts now.

Regardless, bought the "virtual box set" of the books and will enjoy reading them now.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on June 04, 2014, 10:59:40 am
I don't watch the show, but I basically follow the plot thanks to Imgur being 90% GoT posts now.

Regardless, bought the "virtual box set" of the books and will enjoy reading them now.

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2014, 11:10:35 am
You guys should really make a new thread to talk about ASoIaF (the books), and let the show watchers enjoy this one relatively spoiler-free

When did theories that doesn't even use spoilers from books = Spoilers?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 04, 2014, 11:16:55 am
There really are a ton of GOT related images on imgur, just checked. This comic is pretty much 100% how it plays out in the books.

https://imgur.com/gallery/m6XeF
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2014, 12:30:36 pm
There really are a ton of GOT related images on imgur, just checked. This comic is pretty much 100% how it plays out in the books.

https://imgur.com/gallery/m6XeF
The show's not very far from that, tbh.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on June 04, 2014, 12:56:51 pm
The show's not very far from that, tbh.
Not very far as in depicting the same people and the same result, but skipping very lightly over all the drama and intensity in between it. This comic is a much better adaptation than the scene from the show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2014, 01:08:54 pm
Not very far as in depicting the same people and the same result, but skipping very lightly over all the drama and intensity in between it. This comic is a much better adaptation than the scene from the show.
How does the comic have more "drama and intensity"? And it's obviously no surprise that a comic can be more faithful to the book than a TV show.
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Post by: Teeth on June 04, 2014, 01:26:40 pm
How does the comic have more "drama and intensity"? And it's obviously no surprise that a comic can be more faithful to the book than a TV show.
The dialogue, the spectators getting whacked, The Mountain being portrayed as very hard to kill, responses from spectators. For me, these things add to the drama and intensity. The comic managed to retain most of these things, the show did not. Yes, a comic can be more true to a book than a TV show, but the TV show not being faithful was hardly due to contraints of the medium in this instance.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 04, 2014, 02:56:51 pm
I never get it why some book readers feel the need to nitpick about every detail in the show that differs from the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 04, 2014, 03:47:30 pm
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GRRM is like that boy Tyrion was talking about who killed all those cockroaches, but instead he kills all the good characters :(

ignore the 9gag watermark
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Umbra on June 04, 2014, 05:46:10 pm
I never get it why some book readers feel the need to nitpick about every detail in the show that differs from the books.

I really like the scene from the show. The setting and the fight were, overall, very well done. However, it irked me a bit that The Mountain was portrayed as some low skilled, lumbering brute. I mean, he is a lumbering brute, but he is described as very fast and agile for his size. He is a man who knows how to fight, who doesnt just swing the sword wildly in wide arcs. Beating him, that makes Oberyns immense skill with the spear even more apparent.

Also, i wanted to see Tyrion barf and a spectator being sliced in half, because, why the fuck not.

That being said, I have only praise for the show and i dont mind them changing some things because it’s a daunting task to translate such an intricate and epic story in just a dozen episodes of 45 minutes per book.

They could have, without the slightest doubt, made the show 1/2 book per season but one of the appeals of the individual episodes is that a lot of shit happens with many different characters. Its exciting and i cant wait for the next one.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Chosen1 on June 04, 2014, 06:19:08 pm
I heard they're making a spinoff of the series...

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Post by: Umbra on June 04, 2014, 06:26:49 pm
Seriously tho, I wouldnt mind a Robert's rebellion prequel if Martin decides to take his sweet time with the book again.

The battle of the Trident on TV, delicious.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 04, 2014, 06:30:15 pm
Robert's rebellion would be even more interesting than the current plot. Lots of legendary characters alive at that time, a lot of battles and events that we only hear about second-hand etc. Around this time in the TV show, IMO GRRM kills off too many of his characters, so he has to introduce lots of new ones that pop out of nowhere.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Falka on June 04, 2014, 06:39:08 pm
Just finished third book (don't even remember what's its name though it was pretty enjoyable to read), now I'm going to watch season 3. Sadly I'm not hyped for it :( I hope one day some hollywood studio will make movie or serial based on Witchers saga.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: NejStark on June 04, 2014, 11:31:38 pm
Robert's rebellion would be even more interesting than the current plot. Lots of legendary characters alive at that time, a lot of battles and events that we only hear about second-hand etc. Around this time in the TV show, IMO GRRM kills off too many of his characters, so he has to introduce lots of new ones that pop out of nowhere.

If these TV shows are as profitable as I imagine they are, I doubt they'd totally can such a popular universe. Sadly for some reason I predict a GoT prequel would probably have a lower budget and worse cast... and be worse.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tom Cruise on June 04, 2014, 11:46:56 pm
I haven't read a book yet, but for those who do, info I guess  :D

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Post by: Osiris on June 04, 2014, 11:54:04 pm
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Post by: F i n on June 05, 2014, 10:54:16 am
I haven't read a book yet, but for those who do, info I guess  :D


I don't like the voice.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 05, 2014, 11:55:43 am
The TV show is going to catch up to the novels soon, given how long it takes the fat fuck to go through his process. Which would completely destroy the tv show, unless they recast a lot of important roles or magically manage to get all the current actors on permanent retainer. They can't just put that shit on hold, but GRRM doesn't do well with deadlines. They may need to do a lot of fluffing of existing storylines and probably create some wholesale just to pad it out.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 05, 2014, 11:59:42 am
inb4 the 50 trials of Quentyn just for some emotional investment
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2014, 12:18:49 pm
The TV show is going to catch up to the novels soon, given how long it takes the fat fuck to go through his process. Which would completely destroy the tv show, unless they recast a lot of important roles or magically manage to get all the current actors on permanent retainer. They can't just put that shit on hold, but GRRM doesn't do well with deadlines. They may need to do a lot of fluffing of existing storylines and probably create some wholesale just to pad it out.
The TV show is going to do its own interpretation of the story if it catches up to the books. They know how the plot is going to unfold.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 05, 2014, 03:25:14 pm
The TV show is going to catch up to the novels soon, given how long it takes the fat fuck to go through his process. Which would completely destroy the tv show, unless they recast a lot of important roles or magically manage to get all the current actors on permanent retainer. They can't just put that shit on hold, but GRRM doesn't do well with deadlines. They may need to do a lot of fluffing of existing storylines and probably create some wholesale just to pad it out.

George have told the writers for the TV show how it will end and the fate of certain characters.
So either they could do a Robert's Rebellion Prequel series while waiting for it. OR they could do it like other series have done and have a break after half a season has aired.


OR since they know the end results they could do their own kind of thing with the show. The destination is the same BUT the road to it might be slightly different.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 05, 2014, 03:39:11 pm
And suddenly the TV show viewers will spoil things for the book readers.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: no_rules_just_play on June 05, 2014, 03:58:43 pm
http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/videozone/ookdatnog/1.1989086
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 05, 2014, 05:29:46 pm

This is totally what should have happened.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 05, 2014, 08:33:08 pm
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You sound like the biggest showmy old friend ever that's been reading the wiki. No offence.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2014, 02:33:53 am

You sound like the biggest showmy old friend ever that's been reading the wiki. No offence.

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Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2014, 10:05:53 am
What the fuck did you say you piece of shit, you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.

Link by the way? It feels odd that he would say so or is it in one of the released chapters in book six?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2014, 10:55:52 am
What the fuck did you say you piece of shit, you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.

Link by the way? It feels odd that he would say so or is it in one of the released chapters in book six?

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 06, 2014, 02:35:11 pm
Finished Feast For Crows.

Found it really slow at the beginning and the middle, it only really got a good pace near the end. But it was still boring as fuck. Not sure if I can be bothered reading the next few just because he kills everyone off and I'm not a major fan of his writing style (too many errors :D)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 06, 2014, 04:39:27 pm
Finished Feast For Crows.

Found it really slow at the beginning and the middle, it only really got a good pace near the end. But it was still boring as fuck. Not sure if I can be bothered reading the next few just because he kills everyone off and I'm not a major fan of his writing style (too many errors :D)
Yea, he certainly isn't the best writer. The books live from the twists and turns and the polarizing characters.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 06, 2014, 05:53:34 pm
Yea, he certainly isn't the best writer. The books live from the twists and turns and the polarizing characters.

Aye, I honestly find some of his chapters quite dull, his dialogue and intrigue is good but apart from that I do struggle to read for a length of time as I just grow bored.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Knute on June 06, 2014, 06:16:45 pm
Listening to the series on audiobook made it much easier to get through so highly recommend going that route.

The first one is up on YouTube and most of the books are in the 30-40 hour range with a few closer to 50. It's great because you get voices for different characters and can't accidently look ahead so events like the red wedding were much more intense.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 06, 2014, 07:00:23 pm
you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.

Wat? No facesitting from Berenger for me, thanks...
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 07, 2014, 08:14:17 am
What the fuck did you say you piece of shit, you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.

Link by the way? It feels odd that he would say so or is it in one of the released chapters in book six?

Just reread the intro chapter of Dance with Dragons. No other obvious purpose but foreshadowing for that plot.
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Post by: Tiger on June 08, 2014, 08:33:53 pm
lol
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Post by: Molly on June 09, 2014, 09:49:34 am
'Tis was a good episode. Enjoyed watching it :)
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2014, 10:22:14 am
Yup. Good one. They made the battle seem like a battle, too. As opposed to the season 2(?) King's Landing battle.
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Post by: Umbra on June 09, 2014, 11:43:46 am
I raged so fucking hard when Grenn died.

NO1 IS SAFE, NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BOOK!
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2014, 12:45:19 pm
Wonder how the fuck they're gonna fit in so much for next weeks last episode.  But yeah good episode overall with some cool fighting scenes.

Wonder which 1 was more expensive to film. This battle or Blackwater battle
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Post by: Umbra on June 09, 2014, 12:53:29 pm
This was the most expensive episode yet.

http://www.mtv.com/news/1841067/game-of-thrones-most-expensive-episode-watchers-on-the-wall/
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Post by: Tor! on June 09, 2014, 01:07:59 pm
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Post by: Weren on June 09, 2014, 01:14:41 pm
I raged so fucking hard when Grenn died.

NO1 IS SAFE, NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BOOK!

Well they had to kill someone familiar, since the epic blacksmith didn't make it into series.  :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2014, 07:38:32 pm
Even though some of my favorite characters has been killed off. As long as the rightful king of Westeros, King Stannis, Arya, Jon Snow and Davos survives throughout ASOIAF it's all good
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 09, 2014, 08:26:26 pm
Wow, watching Pyp and Grenn die made me more sad than the deaths of all Starks counted together  :cry: (Although Pyp had that typical crpg Xbow moment: Shooting an enemy - hding to reload- getting out of cover again to aim- getting killed by enemy cuntcher)

I thought this is an epic episode, Blackwater Bay's nothing against the Castle Black battle.

Am I wrong or is Alliser Thorne actually not dead but just severly wounded?

EDIT: Without the restrictions of the already published books they would prly have Janos Slynt rape Gilly...
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Post by: Moncho on June 09, 2014, 09:03:37 pm
Alliser was carried away by fellow crows and seemed alive.

Janos was pretty much scared out of his wits in that scene, I doubt that he would have had it in him at that moment to do the deed, maybe later though.

Also the 360 shot was pretty intense. Loved it.
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Post by: Leesin on June 09, 2014, 09:11:51 pm
Great episode, I already see people bitching how it's different from the books on other sites, I'm pretty bored of their whining now tbh. But yeah, I enjoyed the episode and I'm really looking forward to next weeks finale.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2014, 09:49:20 pm
Final episode of season 4 next week will have massive complaints if the big moment there is gonna be different from books
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Post by: Overdriven on June 09, 2014, 10:45:24 pm
Or if it isn't there.

Is it me or does it seem like there's far to much left in the Tyrion/Castle Black story line to squeeze into one episode?
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Post by: Strudog on June 09, 2014, 11:19:41 pm
My main concern is whether the dire wolf Ghost died, im guessing it did not because its something i think they would have shown, but it did not go with him when he left.
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Post by: Kalam on June 09, 2014, 11:24:49 pm
Wow, watching Pyp and Grenn die made me more sad than the deaths of all Starks counted together  :cry: (Although Pyp had that typical crpg Xbow moment: Shooting an enemy - hding to reload- getting out of cover again to aim- getting killed by enemy cuntcher)

I thought this is an epic episode, Blackwater Bay's nothing against the Castle Black battle.

Am I wrong or is Alliser Thorne actually not dead but just severly wounded?

EDIT: Without the restrictions of the already published books they would prly have Janos Slynt rape Gilly...

I really felt for the Thenn that Samwell killed, actually. Sam manages to reload the crossbow just in time to shoot him in the face. PRETTY MUCH MY CRPG EXPERIENCE.
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Post by: Osiris on June 10, 2014, 12:42:01 am
Great episode, I already see people bitching how it's different from the books on other sites, I'm pretty bored of their whining now tbh. But yeah, I enjoyed the episode and I'm really looking forward to next weeks finale.

well dont read those sites :D its a series based on a best selling book series so ofc people are going to moan about changes  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Chosen1 on June 10, 2014, 02:03:00 am
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Post by: Havoco on June 10, 2014, 03:42:27 am
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Why is this in a spoiler?

No I'm not. She was the hottest one on the show.
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Post by: Tiger on June 10, 2014, 04:16:02 am
What the Wall really looks like

http://www.dorkly.com/post/63987/the-wall-in-game-of-thrones-isnt-even-close-to-real?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=june (http://www.dorkly.com/post/63987/the-wall-in-game-of-thrones-isnt-even-close-to-real?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=june)
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Post by: Banok on June 10, 2014, 08:59:58 am
Finished Feast For Crows.

Found it really slow at the beginning and the middle, it only really got a good pace near the end. But it was still boring as fuck. Not sure if I can be bothered reading the next few just because he kills everyone off and I'm not a major fan of his writing style (too many errors :D)

Feast for crows is just a really bad book compared to the rest of the series.  Its mostly because he decided to split it chronologically imo.

I disagree that he is a bad writer. No one's perfect, every great writer must have written something bad. also errors? wtf
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 10, 2014, 10:03:24 am
Why is this in a spoiler?

No I'm not. She was the hottest one on the show.

You knuw nuthing Havoc. Atleast Jon Snow knew how to eat pussy
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Post by: Oberyn on June 10, 2014, 02:37:45 pm
They made Thorne way too badass and sympathetic. It grated on my noble and refined book hipster sensibility. Nice episode otherwise. I like how they portray giants in the show, pretty much big hairy humans. They're more like pseudo-yetis in the book, only using crude weapons like tree trunks and stone mauls, wearing no clothes but covered in fur. That giant archer firing fucking ballista sized arrows was pretty cool. Hawkeyed Gough style.

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2014, 02:45:00 pm
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Post by: NejStark on June 10, 2014, 03:00:09 pm
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Post by: Franke on June 10, 2014, 03:02:26 pm
For me Ygritte was the hottest GoT girl (being a ginger gave her the lead over Margaery and Talisa) but I did not feel pity for her at all. I'm still kinda trapped in a good old black-and-white view on the GoT world and as a wildling she belonged to the "bad guys" for me...
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Post by: NejStark on June 10, 2014, 03:40:15 pm
Honestly when their eyes met, and JS smiled, and her heart melted, I thought it was beautiful. Then the little shitbag with the bow had to end true loves chances. I think it was a very good way to end that story though.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 10, 2014, 04:04:11 pm
Fun fact though. In real life,  the actress who plays Ygritte is actually part of a noble family and her parents owns a couple of castles in Scotland. Lol
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2014, 05:18:29 pm
Fun fact though. In real life,  the actress who plays Ygritte is actually part of a noble family and her parents owns a couple of castles in Scotland. Lol

So she's a RL wildling lol
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 10, 2014, 10:52:06 pm
good episode, finally some action. the only downside is that fat moron is still alive.
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Post by: Osiris on June 10, 2014, 10:58:38 pm
It was nice to actually see the battle :D Its something that has been lacking for me
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2014, 10:59:43 pm
good episode, finally some action. the only downside is that fat moron is still alive.

Yeah I don't get it either... Why is Sam still alive? Them white walkers should have killed him a couple of times by now... Especially when he was "hiding" his fat ass behind the rock. Wtf white walkers have feelings and don't kill pussies?
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Post by: Osiris on June 10, 2014, 11:01:01 pm
Yeah I don't get it either... Why is Sam still alive? Them white walkers should have killed him a couple of times by now... Especially when he was "hiding" his fat ass behind the rock. Wtf white walkers have feelings and don't kill pussies?

they think he is just a poor bear instead of a human
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2014, 11:03:06 pm
they think he is just a poor bear instead of a human

They don't kill bears either? pff
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Post by: NejStark on June 11, 2014, 12:27:15 am
Everyone who doubts sam....
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Post by: Smoothrich on June 11, 2014, 06:53:45 am
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Haha. I wish the whole show was like this. Its already corny and melodramatic enough on far too low a budget, they should just embrace it and be over the top as fuck with pop music and smug one liners
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Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2014, 07:00:26 am
Virtual graveyard, and that's just main people relevant enough to appear in the TV series!
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2014/04/game_of_thrones_deaths_mourn_dead_characters_at_their_virtual_graveyard.html
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Post by: Xant on June 11, 2014, 09:40:59 am
Haha. I wish the whole show was like this. Its already corny and melodramatic enough on far too low a budget, they should just embrace it and be over the top as fuck with pop music and smug one liners
Oh yes, having multiple of the most expensive episodes in TV history is such a low budget.
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Post by: Falka on June 11, 2014, 05:08:54 pm
Virtual graveyard, and that's just main people relevant enough to appear in the TV series!
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2014/04/game_of_thrones_deaths_mourn_dead_characters_at_their_virtual_graveyard.html

Wait... where's Jon Snow?  :shock:
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Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2014, 05:31:04 pm
Wait... where's Jon Snow?  :shock:
Why should he be there? Jon Snow is not dead.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 11, 2014, 07:25:59 pm
Not confirmed dead (unless I missed a spoiler from Winds of Winter previews which afaik had no Jon Snow or Wall character chapters)

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Post by: Xant on June 11, 2014, 07:29:28 pm
If he really is dead, GRRM went full retard -- the only real main character left would be a little girl.
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Post by: Moncho on June 11, 2014, 07:29:56 pm
That is for the TV series... like this thread, as some of you seem extremely happy to ignore
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 11, 2014, 07:43:14 pm
If he really is dead, GRRM went full retard -- the only real main character left would be a little girl.

Problem?

Imo she is the most hardcore protagonist of the whole series.


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Post by: Vibe on June 11, 2014, 07:44:39 pm
wow nice spoilers
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Post by: Molly on June 11, 2014, 07:46:11 pm
Arya > Jon Snow anyway all day.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 11, 2014, 07:47:17 pm
wow nice spoilers

yh i cry evry tim
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Post by: Franke on June 11, 2014, 07:50:36 pm
Arya > Jon Snow anyway all day.

Pff...

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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 11, 2014, 07:53:55 pm
Imo, Stephen Dillane is too handsome to be Stannis. I think he needed to be a bit more short straw genetics wise.
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Post by: vipere on June 11, 2014, 07:55:17 pm
I feel like 50 min will not be enough for the next episode, they have a lot of things to tell us
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Post by: Molly on June 11, 2014, 08:10:13 pm
I feel like 50 min will not be enough for the next episode, they have a lot of things to tell us
...or major cliffhanger incoming :?
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 11, 2014, 08:11:39 pm
I hope the next series isn't rushed.
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Post by: HarunYahya on June 11, 2014, 08:36:38 pm
I feel like 50 min will not be enough for the next episode, they have a lot of things to tell us
finale is 66 minutes long !
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Post by: Vibe on June 11, 2014, 08:40:42 pm
If there's so much to show I'm pretty certain they'll leave it for next season.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 11, 2014, 09:07:25 pm
If there's so much to show I'm pretty certain they'll leave it for next season.

Cliffhangers, cliffhangers everywhere... And then we wait.
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Post by: NejStark on June 11, 2014, 10:21:19 pm
Book readers - don't be cunts. Yes we're all very clever and niche as fuck for reading those best-sellers, but there's no need to spoil it for others.

TV show watchers- Hurry up and read the books, you cunts.

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Post by: Xant on June 11, 2014, 10:31:08 pm
I don't see how it's a spoiler that someone might or might not be dead
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Post by: Algarn on June 11, 2014, 11:41:39 pm
Don't know if Jon Snow will be alive after the last episode of the season, since it's pretty much some kind of sacrifice (his life for Mance's one). Sadly, in two episodes, I saw 5 of my favorite characters diying. I think this autor is a psychopath after that, really... Oberyn didn't even make a season for fuck sake, Pyp and Grenn were two good characters that didn't deserve to die, even after 3 seasons. New characters will appear magically from nowhere, and die, be replaced etc ... Only thing I dislike in this serie, but whatever, since you never forget after an episode of Game of Thrones that life isn't heaven.
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Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on June 12, 2014, 01:16:21 am
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Post by: Vibe on June 12, 2014, 08:55:21 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2014, 11:31:48 am
Best GOT characters of em all:

King Stannis, first of his name, King of the Andals and the first men, Lord of the seven kingdoms and Protector of the Realm

Arya Stark

Jon Snow

Aegon Targaryen

And incest pussy slayer
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Post by: Kuujis on June 12, 2014, 02:25:10 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2014, 08:23:13 pm
Sounds like a fat douchebag.

You're not even close to what Shakespeare was
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Post by: Xant on June 12, 2014, 08:50:47 pm
It wasn't really written by GRRM, Einstein
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Post by: NejStark on June 12, 2014, 09:09:19 pm
Are you serious? Its a jpg with some baked in text and his picture on it, he must have said it!

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2014, 09:49:47 pm
It wasn't really written by GRRM, Einstein

Im not Einstein.  Filthy Stalin
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Post by: Falka on June 12, 2014, 09:51:04 pm
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The problem is deaths in a song of ice and fire seem to be too random, e.g. Renly, he was barely introduced as a semi big character and few moments later all of a sudden he's dead. It feels silly. At least that's my impression :P
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 12, 2014, 10:05:35 pm
I felt the threat or mortality to anyone successfully inverted my expectations of the invincibility of any single character. And I believe that I am more emotionally invested in characters because of their greater fallibility.

Edit: example. Which character do you prefer, Superman or Batman?
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Post by: Xant on June 12, 2014, 10:27:45 pm
The problem is deaths in a song of ice and fire seem to be too random, e.g. Renly, he was barely introduced as a semi big character and few moments later all of a sudden he's dead. It feels silly. At least that's my impression :P
Silly, why? I think it's interesting, adds realism. Death doesn't only happen to characters that are seemingly at the end of their Important Story Arc.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 12, 2014, 10:32:17 pm
Xant summed it up well imo. It's more like a story of a world at war than a story of the destiny of a hero/heroine.
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Post by: Falka on June 12, 2014, 11:12:10 pm
I don't feel like these deaths contribute something valuable to the story, they just happen out of the blue. Is it realistic? Maybe, but I prefer good story with the leading characters over realism and when main characters die one by one - without sufficient justification in the story - I lose interest in the plot. On the other hand, e.g. in The godfather death of Santino and Don Corleone were fully justified by events of the story, they were a turning points and I had no feeling they were awkward and out of place. But that's just my impression  :P
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Post by: Franke on June 12, 2014, 11:19:09 pm
It's a matter of taste I think. I can understand Falka's POV although I do not feel this way. I think I accustomed myself to this with Ned Stark's death. The only character whose death would really piss me off is Stannis prly, and it would still not make me stop watching the show/reading the books.
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Post by: Falka on June 12, 2014, 11:22:45 pm
Ned Stark's death was okay, can not say the same about the rest :P but as you said, it's a matter of taste.
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Post by: Franke on June 12, 2014, 11:26:55 pm
Stark's beheading was a huge shock for me as I was only used to the "invincible-good-guy" pattern. Season 1 focused a lot on the Stark's point of view which kinda made them "the good guys" for me. Today I know that most of Sean Bean's characters die onscreen but back then I mainly knew him as Cornwell's Richard Sharpe...
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Post by: Leesin on June 12, 2014, 11:27:11 pm
I like the characters dying because it really makes me worry about all the other characters I like lol. I couldn't give a toss if Stannis died though really, I'm not really sure why so many people like this guy, he comes across to me like a naive pussy whipped idiot at times and just generally annoys me with his on screen time, not to mention Melisandre, I literally cannot stand that woman.
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Post by: Molly on June 12, 2014, 11:29:23 pm
Can't stand her, would bang tho  8-)
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Post by: Torben on June 12, 2014, 11:51:53 pm
oberyns death totally touched me,  was so fucking abrupt and brutal.  got me thinking quite a few times.
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Post by: Leesin on June 13, 2014, 12:48:53 am
Can't stand her, would bang tho  8-)

Yeah, not saying I wouldn't throw one up her after a few beers, but I just wouldn't stick around after I've unloaded my soldiers.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 13, 2014, 01:02:26 am
Not even if she told you you were Azor Ahai for sure?
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 13, 2014, 08:50:06 am
Ned Stark's death was okay, can not say the same about the rest :P but as you said, it's a matter of taste.

I don't know if you read the books or not, but ned starks death ok? Ha, the whole story is based upon his death and kind of only starts from that point on. Same with many other deaths or events like Jaime's Hand. They seem to be random and thus realistic, but of course they are planned and crucial for the story.
Another benefit is they make fake deaths much more appealing. Tolkien could shock with the 'death' of Gandalf and his sudden reappearance but nowadays no fantasy writer can make their readers believe some important character would really die and not miraculously come back. Fat fucking slow Martin can do that.
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Post by: Falka on June 13, 2014, 09:16:12 am
but ned starks death ok? Ha, the whole story is based upon his death and kind of only starts from that point on

Eh? Dont get your Point, i fully agree with u, that's why I said it was "okay", unlike many other deaths.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 13, 2014, 10:04:22 am
"okay" sounded too weak for me!
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 13, 2014, 01:06:36 pm
I like the characters dying because it really makes me worry about all the other characters I like lol. I couldn't give a toss if Stannis died though really, I'm not really sure why so many people like this guy, he comes across to me like a naive pussy whipped idiot at times and just generally annoys me with his on screen time, not to mention Melisandre, I literally cannot stand that woman.

Stfu. Don't disrespect the true and rightful king of Westeros.

LONG LIVE KING STANNIS THE MANNIS
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Post by: Franke on June 14, 2014, 01:28:04 am
Episode 10 preview

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 14, 2014, 10:23:58 am
I predict 3 deaths in this episode. No spoilers.

And a massive cliffhanger because lack of time
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Post by: Algarn on June 15, 2014, 09:40:10 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2014, 10:03:55 pm
Happy fathers day.

EDIT: Wrong thread...or was it?
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Post by: Chosen1 on June 16, 2014, 04:17:01 am
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Post by: Xant on June 16, 2014, 09:28:37 am
Whys Dany keep hating on the nice green everytime Drogon does bad crap she chains the green one an treats him like crap

IT WAS ALL DROGON the green one didnt do crap im so sick of dany mistreating the green one hes so innocent an friendly its drogon thats the horrible mean one an she babies that one an hurts the green
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Post by: Molly on June 16, 2014, 10:27:29 am
Arya Stark best Stark. Had a fat grin on my face when she spoke the words.

Also, Tyrion Lennister best Lennister but that is obvious. Really liked how they did his scenes.

Overall a great ending...
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2014, 11:12:10 am
Great episode. But what the fuck..
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Also once again. All hail King Stannis The Fucking Mannis. Best character in the entire series.


All hail His Grace, Stannis of House Baratheon, First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm!
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Post by: Xant on June 16, 2014, 11:34:34 am
Great episode. But what the fuck..
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I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.
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Post by: Banok on June 16, 2014, 11:52:00 am
I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.

but warrior skeletons popping out of the ground, and throwing fireballs at them is fine?

already been ressurections of thoros of myr. seriously no coldhands. and 3 eyed crow looks shit.

well  as usual most this episode was awesome. but I still think they are increasingly dropping the ball in season 4, and worry they might really ruin it if they keep down this path.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2014, 11:53:37 am
I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.

Still. At one side i really would like to see her return. But one side....it does make the tragedy of RW seem like less sad than it really was. So i can understand your reasoning.

As long as Aegon, and Victarion pops up in Season 5 i'm happy. They + Arya + Stannis and Jon Snow are the best characters fatty George has offered planet Earth.
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Post by: Xant on June 16, 2014, 12:21:29 pm
but warrior skeletons popping out of the ground, and throwing fireballs at them is fine?

Show me where in my post I said that's fine?
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 16, 2014, 12:24:25 pm
that retard is really going to kill all the characters i like; now outta five there are just three left.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2014, 02:59:19 pm
Arya Stark best Stark. Had a fat grin on my face when she spoke the words.

Also, Tyrion Lennister best Lennister but that is obvious. Really liked how they did his scenes.

Overall a great ending...

Hate that mainstream media only cares about Tyrion because he's a dwarf IRL and now he'll get another Emmy because of his speech at the trial and most of the other cast won't get any spotlight on them at all except Daenerys because she's the blonde bitch that everyone thinks GOT is about.
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Post by: Molly on June 16, 2014, 03:25:17 pm
In all fairness, Tyrion is the most adorable character in the books too... next to Arya.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 16, 2014, 03:49:38 pm
Tyrion is one of the most likable characters in the series. The way he is written is already a huge boost to popularity. Plus the actor has done a really great job with the material. Of course as someone who thinks Stannis, the moron who let himself be convinced by a slutty, lying, human sacrificing, evil blood magic sorceress he's some sort of world-saving messiah, neatly combining gullibility, idiocy and narcissism in one neat package, is the best character in the series and the one most deserving of the Iron Throne your perspective is automatically flawed and stupid.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 16, 2014, 03:51:40 pm
Whys Dany keep hating on the nice green everytime Drogon does bad crap she chains the green one an treats him like crap

IT WAS ALL DROGON the green one didnt do crap im so sick of dany mistreating the green one hes so innocent an friendly its drogon thats the horrible mean one an she babies that one an hurts the green

I cry evrytim.
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Post by: bilwit on June 16, 2014, 04:25:22 pm
Arya Stark best Stark. Had a fat grin on my face when she spoke the words.

Also, Tyrion Lennister best Lennister but that is obvious. Really liked how they did his scenes.

Overall a great ending...

Rickon will grow up to become a muthafukin beast, just you wait. King in the North lives, baby!
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2014, 04:26:17 pm
Tyrion is one of the most likable characters in the series. The way he is written is already a huge boost to popularity. Plus the actor has done a really great job with the material. Of course as someone who thinks Stannis, the moron who let himself be convinced by a slutty, lying, human sacrificing, evil blood magic sorceress he's some sort of world-saving messiah, neatly combining gullibility, idiocy and narcissism in one neat package, is the best character in the series and the one most deserving of the Iron Throne your perspective is automatically flawed and stupid.

He uses the Red God and her. Daenerys the blonde bitch got dragons. Originally Lannibaddies had gold. Stannis got her and her magic so to speak.


Usually every faction got 1 advantage or secret weapon. Stannis happens to have her. People said killing Renly with shadows was cowardly but he's smart. He got honor. He's a proven and tested commander on the battlefield. He's the rightful heir to the throne and got more claim to it than the bastard children or blonde bitch or his gay dead brother had.

He's STANNIS THE FUCKING MANNIS. Can't deny that.
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Post by: Tibe on June 16, 2014, 04:36:54 pm
I kinda dislike Daenerys too. She's so damn ignorant. "Yay, I got power, now I have all the means to fix all injustice on earth." Cause obliviously all that anyone ever needed to solve all the worlds issues, is an army.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 16, 2014, 04:44:41 pm
Stannis has to be one of my favourite characters but I can probably guess what Georgy boy does to him.
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Post by: Molly on June 16, 2014, 04:57:44 pm
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Post by: Gnjus on June 16, 2014, 04:59:55 pm
If not for his brilliant sidekick Stannis' story & personality would be the most shitty of all so far. Only slimeballs like Berenger can like him.

Btw book readers and such - did Ned Stark really spare Jorah Mormont and why would he do such a thing ?
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Post by: BASNAK on June 16, 2014, 05:01:03 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2014, 05:04:00 pm
Stannis has to be one of my favourite characters but I can probably guess what Georgy boy does to him.

My guess is that George is an asshole and has Melissandre kill him and try to convince Jon Snow to become her new ''companion'' but Jon Snow kills her instead. Some bullshit like that.

Anyhow...The War Of The Five Kings. Fought between Renly , Joffrey, Robb Stark, Balon Greyjoy and Stannis.

Joffrey? Dead.
Renly? Dead.
Robb Stark? Dead.
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King Stannis? Alive. He is fulfilling the duties of a King a.ka PROTECTOR OF THE REALM. While everyone else were fucking their own families, or whores, or using slaves/soldiers as boytoys (hello blonde Danerys slut) or breaking vows or acting like a bitch who can't rule their kingdom because of being a pathetic young whelp.  Stannis was planning and acting like a king and thinking of protecting Westeros of the White Walkers and wildlings.

He got every virtue and skills needed to become a king. Ones who think he's under Melissandres spell are stupid. Using show as an example, look how he reacted after the aftermath of Blackwater. He killed Melissandre (tho she apparently revived herself came back) because God of Light didn't help him win the battle.

He only cares about his duties and his duty is to be a KING. A title which is RIGHTFULLY HIS BY BLOOD.


ALL HAIL KING STANNIS!


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Post by: Moncho on June 16, 2014, 06:34:04 pm
Btw book readers and such - did Ned Stark really spare Jorah Mormont and why would he do such a thing ?
Ned condemned him to death for selling slaves, but he fled before Ned arrived to execute him
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 12:03:53 am
Using show as an example, look how he reacted after the aftermath of Blackwater. He killed Melissandre (tho she apparently revived herself came back) because God of Light didn't help him win the battle.

Sorry, what? I really didn't remember that.

Also, anyone notice any parallels between Stannis and Richard III?
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Post by: Franke on June 17, 2014, 12:24:38 am
Stannis has to be one of my favourite characters but I can probably guess what Georgy boy does to him.

Exactly my thougts. In my nightmares I see Stannis gain the throne only to be cut down by a revenge-seeking Brienne of Tarth during coronation ceremony.

Liking/Disliking characters is a matter of taste and I'm aware that Stannis is not really the most charismatic pretender around still I see no reason for all the Stannis-hate in here. He's just trying to make use of what he has at his disposal like the others. He has a red witch (who does not use Stannis as a puppet, it's him who uses her and her red god), so why should he send a sellsword to kill Renly if he can get an assassin for free?

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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 12:26:02 am
Stannis and Melisandre are friends with benefits
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Post by: Oberyn on June 17, 2014, 12:54:27 am
Hypothetically, if Stanis ever gets to the Iron Throne, it would be civil war and destruction on a scale larger than anything that's happened in the series so far. His whole Rhllor's chosen delusion? He literally destroys a sept and ritually sacrifices those who refuse to embrace his "new" religion by burning them alive. Or he stands there brooding and constipated while Melisandre does it, same difference. It would be that X100k or something, all throughout the seven kingdoms, as Melisandre leads massive purges. The bigass church thing in King's Landing would be converted to a Rhllor temple as soon as Melisandre fucking stepped foot in there, and it would just spread out from there.
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Honestly I think the only part of Stannis that's interesting is Davos. In the books you mostly see Stannis through his eyes. Davos especially knows how fucked up Melisandre and her "tools" are, but he's so loyal to Stannis he can't help but try to mitigate her influence on him through his own advice.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 01:32:37 am
http://www.zimbio.com/generator/d_rN-Gyttd2/What+Is+Your+Game+Of+Thrones+Warrior+Name?i=zOKYOC6bMb4&t=W-YwkQwBdWr
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 03:38:56 am
Problem with that logic Lolberyn is that in the church of Lord of Light miracles come true which other religions cannot do. They can prove via their priests that that religion is capable of predicting things and reviving people etc..

A.ka more people would support something they can believe with their own eyes.



Stannis The Motherfucking Mannis is the king Westeros deserves.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Havoco on June 17, 2014, 06:11:31 am
Hypothetically, if Stanis ever gets to the Iron Throne, it would be civil war and destruction on a scale larger than anything that's happened in the series so far. His whole Rhllor's chosen delusion? He literally destroys a sept and ritually sacrifices those who refuse to embrace his "new" religion by burning them alive. Or he stands there brooding and constipated while Melisandre does it, same difference. It would be that X100k or something, all throughout the seven kingdoms, as Melisandre leads massive purges. The bigass church thing in King's Landing would be converted to a Rhllor temple as soon as Melisandre fucking stepped foot in there, and it would just spread out from there.
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Honestly I think the only part of Stannis that's interesting is Davos. In the books you mostly see Stannis through his eyes. Davos especially knows how fucked up Melisandre and her "tools" are, but he's so loyal to Stannis he can't help but try to mitigate her influence on him through his own advice.

Sounds like a good sequel to me
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 17, 2014, 09:49:27 am
Saw it this morning at my Uni...

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The text next to him says "Jon Snow after he got his Bachelor exam."

I lol'd :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 10:42:46 am
Saw it this morning at my Uni...

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The text next to him says "Jon Snow after he got his Bachelor exam."

I lol'd :D

If i were gay like everyone else here i'd totally go gay for Jon Snow or Robb Stark.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Herezy92 on June 17, 2014, 10:45:39 am
Am i the only one who think that Stannis will hire the wildlings with the support of the bank and then, push to the south in order to claim his legit right ?

EDIT: i didn't read the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on June 17, 2014, 10:58:12 am
It's interesting how no one (except Mance and his wildlings) is aware of the threat from the North and they don't even bother to listen to anyone, they really think that wildlings are bored and suddenly hitting the wall for no apparent reason other than to kill a few crows and some random villagers around. It would be logical if Stannis was to listen what Mance Rayder has to say about his uniting all tribes, gathering 100 000 men, giants, mammoths, etc and hitting the wall. If you have to kill the man at least listen to his reasons, since you already have him captured. That's what a wise leader would do, while a stupid one would just hack them all where they stand. Guess which kind would Stannis be if wasn't for Davos & Jon Snow ?

Tbh there are some details missing from the show that shouldn't be missing, for example: if the guy who "recruits" (or "collects", to be more accurate) men for the wall gets killed along the way shouldn't someone fucking notice it ? Shouldn't there be a new person in charge with it and shouldn't the commander (at least) of the Night's Watch be asking some questions about that and some other things ? People who have a purpose in this realm keep dying and none even bothers to ask about them, we should get to see those scenes, just so it all makes sense, its not like they would take a whole episode of time........
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 17, 2014, 11:20:40 am
Children's tales.
The wall is in crap state atm, the Night's Watch is nothing. Also they have begged forever for men, and nothing has ever happened, so some people may believe its the boy who cried wolf (the fable) all over again.
The Southron lords (and even some of the Northern ones) do not believe in legends and undead, that is all a load of bullcrap that has not happened for thousands of years, so they dismiss it as old folk's tales and superstition. So they play their Game of Thrones without realising that it is all for nought if the Others (White Walkers in the series) come and go over the wall. Even the Northern lords believe the Wall to be there to keep the wildlings out, and the tales of the Others have been banished to Old Nan's stories and other unreliable sources. Magic has been getting weaker and so the danger is dismissed. Further their armies went South to war, and are scattered and weak.
Also some lords may even believe that the Wildlings are only attacking because of the Civil War that led the armies of the North south, and the Southron kings have enough on their plate already (the Riverlands on fire, the Lannisters and Tyrells trying to consolidate their gains and plotting from King's Landing, the North in disarray, etc). It's a huge setup that is happening that is making Westeros ripe for invasion. The only armies still strong are the Dornish, those of the Vale, and the Ironborn fleet, the rest is a shadow of what it was.
About the recruiter, the travel times are large, and they are worried about that. He may be somewhere along the path, or have stopped at some halls in hopes of getting more recruits, or tons of other things may have hindered him, news don't travel like in modern times, and the Wall is very isolated. On top of that Lord Commander Mormont was killed, and there is no new Commander yet, which leads to all these issues becoming even bigger. They have Benjen Stark's disaparition, the attack of the Wildlings, the failure of the Great Ranging, etc all far more pressing than where the recruiter is.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 11:25:29 am
It's interesting how no one (except Mance and his wildlings) is aware of the threat from the North and they don't even bother to listen to anyone, they really think that wildlings are bored and suddenly hitting the wall for no apparent reason other than to kill a few crows and some random villagers around. It would be logical if Stannis was to listen what Mance Rayder has to say about his uniting all tribes, gathering 100 000 men, giants, mammoths, etc and hitting the wall. If you have to kill the man at least listen to his reasons, since you already have him captured. That's what a wise leader would do, while a stupid one would just hack them all where they stand. Guess which kind would Stannis be if wasn't for Davos & Jon Snow ?

Tbh there are some details missing from the show that shouldn't be missing, for example: if the guy who "recruits" (or "collects", to be more accurate) men for the wall gets killed along the way shouldn't someone fucking notice it ? Shouldn't there be a new person in charge with it and shouldn't the commander (at least) of the Night's Watch be asking some questions about that and some other things ? People who have a purpose in this realm keep dying and none even bothers to ask about them, we should get to see those scenes, just so it all makes sense, its not like they would take a whole episode of time........

People outside the wall doesn't give a fuck about it. They only care about politics and drama over who's keeping the Iron Throne and random crap. Except for King Stannis and Nights Watch who's protecting the realm.

And why would they accept 100k wild barbarians with some of them cannibals into a civilized land?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 17, 2014, 11:31:33 am
King Stannis does not give a fucking crap about the wall, he is just using it because of a vision Melissandre had and misinterpreted it, since he had lost at the South, he did the only thing he could that was run away. He is not honorable, he just does not have another option.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on June 17, 2014, 11:42:21 am
About the recruiter, the travel times are large, and they are worried about that. He may be somewhere along the path, or have stopped at some halls in hopes of getting more recruits, or tons of other things may have hindered him, news don't travel like in modern times, and the Wall is very isolated.


I know but the guy was capable of shaving a spider's arse if he wanted to........how many folks in the Seven Kingdoms could do that ?  :P

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 12:07:45 pm
King Stannis does not give a fucking crap about the wall, he is just using it because of a vision Melissandre had and misinterpreted it, since he had lost at the South, he did the only thing he could that was run away. He is not honorable, he just does not have another option.

He's a king and PROTECTOR OF THE REALM. He's doing it to gather land and support from ex-Stark followers and to set up a new base of operations. AND UNLIKE THESE KINGS LANDING WHORES AND PRICKS HE'S ACTUALLY SERVING THE REALM...who would've thought that.

Unlike Robert who just got fat and fucked whores, Renly who prefered to take it up the ass and promote a gay kingdom, Joffrey who would continue to pretend Westeros was just his playground to abuse or Robb Stark who'd lead it like the naive kid he was.


There's a fkin reason why Ned Stark trusted Stannis with the info of the bastards before he died and supported his claim to the throne besides the fact that it was his right. Stannis and Ned Stark are men bound by honor, courage and loyalty. Stannis is like Ned was of an old breed. He's a perfect fit.

In Stannis case, loyalty to Westeros.

You'd think a dumb blonde Targaryen bitch who fucks around with her boytoy and abandons her faithful servants and acts like a moron would be a good ruler of Westeros?

Tommen? Nerds favorite character because he owns the nerds favorite pets cats and loves them (bitch please he's the next Ralph Wiggum)

Cersei? Manipulative, incest fucking bitch with no compassion for the people and no loyalty to them.

Sansa? Teenager experiencing teenage problems and would rule while being constantly on the edge and whack?

Littlefinger? Bitch please.

Everyone else are either psychos, backstabbing shits, naive young inexperienced kids or power hungry bitches.


Stannis is the most logical ruler of Westeros. Sure he does not have charisma but his Hand of the King could make up for that or whatever.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 02:12:23 pm
Am i the only one who think that Stannis will hire the wildlings with the support of the bank and then, push to the south in order to claim his legit right ?

EDIT: i didn't read the books.
Yeah because money totally means a lot to wildlings
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Herezy92 on June 17, 2014, 02:59:01 pm
Yeah because money totally means a lot to wildlings
They want to go to the south.
Stannis can offer that.
Moreover they will be able to fight and kill southerners. (for Stannis of course)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 17, 2014, 03:01:09 pm
You seem to forget that wildlings do not kneel.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 03:15:44 pm
You seem to forget that wildlings do not kneel.

They will bend the knee, or King Stannis will destroy them!

ALL HAIL STANNIS BARATHEON
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Herezy92 on June 17, 2014, 03:52:18 pm
You seem to forget that wildlings do not kneel.
No need to kneel when someone offers you the possibility to go kilingl and raiding while going to the south.
This is the heaven for the wildlings.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on June 17, 2014, 03:53:46 pm
So I missed this season so what's happened in this latest episode (where are the main characters now) I've read the books so I've got a general idea.

I'm guessing last night's episode was a shock to some
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Algarn on June 17, 2014, 04:01:11 pm
Your avatar is a shock.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 17, 2014, 05:08:46 pm
I think most of u just like Stannis cause his one of the few characters from the start, who isnt dead yet. Simple as that. He's a complete twat. In the last episode that scene was literally the first thing he did right. Giving a crap about the shit going on beond the wall, while others were too busy with thumbs up their asses. Really over the course of this 100 pages nobody ever stated that Stannis was cool. But I think you just jumped the bandwagon. He was a twat and he still is a twat. U just rooting for him cause he's the least horrible choice now.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 05:25:25 pm
Looking forward to the casting of the new characters. Should shake things up a bit with all this favouritism.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 17, 2014, 05:25:47 pm
They want to go to the south.
Stannis can offer that.
Moreover they will be able to fight and kill southerners. (for Stannis of course)
Yes, well, going to the south =/= money
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on June 17, 2014, 05:29:37 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 05:50:02 pm
I think most of u just like Stannis cause his one of the few characters from the start, who isnt dead yet. Simple as that. He's a complete twat. In the last episode that scene was literally the first thing he did right. Giving a crap about the shit going on beond the wall, while others were too busy with thumbs up their asses. Really over the course of this 100 pages nobody ever stated that Stannis was cool. But I think you just jumped the bandwagon. He was a twat and he still is a twat. U just rooting for him cause he's the least horrible choice now.

Absolutely not. I first thought GOT was a softcore crap series. Saw Stannis speech about phaggots bending the knee or he'll rape them cuz he's the Mannis on YT and got hooked and then read books.

Stannis was the first character i liked and one of reasons i watched the show. In books he's even more awesome. After that Arya Stark, Jon Snow and
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Sure beats liking a dumb stupid blonde Daenerys bitch who just plays around with her boytoy and don't even know how to tame her dragons or the Kings Landing/South drama BS.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 17, 2014, 06:16:35 pm
Looking forward to the casting of the new characters.

This. Particularly looking forward to the Sand Snakes.

Do you guys think we will already see Oldtown in Season 5?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: NejStark on June 17, 2014, 06:20:35 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Smoothrich on June 17, 2014, 06:38:40 pm
Stannis actually has lots of funny dialogue in the book, very dry and witty. He pretty much just walks around calling people out on BS while owning them with one-liners. Jon Snow even wonders to himself that it's hard to tell when or if Stannis is joking or being serious, during one of their many entertaining conversations where Stannis just shit talks him to stay amused (before and after doing any real diplomacy) while presumably chainsmoking cigs on the wall.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 17, 2014, 09:05:58 pm
I think most of u just like Stannis cause his one of the few characters from the start, who isnt dead yet. Simple as that. He's a complete twat. In the last episode that scene was literally the first thing he did right. Giving a crap about the shit going on beond the wall, while others were too busy with thumbs up their asses. Really over the course of this 100 pages nobody ever stated that Stannis was cool. But I think you just jumped the bandwagon. He was a twat and he still is a twat. U just rooting for him cause he's the least horrible choice now.

One of the biggest disappointments in the story for me was when Stannis lost the battle of Blackwater. I dislike all the killing heretics stuff but he's pretty badass and the latest episode made me like him more.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Algarn on June 17, 2014, 09:07:57 pm
I like Stannis as a character in general, but I can't stand that freaking red woman and all this religion thingie... Hope she dies soon, in a brutal way.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2014, 09:44:30 pm
I like Stannis as a character in general, but I can't stand that freaking red woman and all this religion thingie... Hope she dies soon, in a brutal way.

If she dies Stannis loses one of his major secret weapons/OP weapons.
The way Daenerys got Dragons and Starks had/got direwolves. Stannis got a priestess that could revive dead ones and summon shadows amongst other things.

He's not under her spell and only converted to Lord of Light because it could help him secure his claim to the throne.


Stannis will die and won't sit on the iron throne in the end because the showrunners are phaggots who hates Stannis and George doesn't really care about Stannis that much i'd bet but him as a king would be epic and he's the FUCKING MANNIS!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Havoco on June 17, 2014, 11:09:30 pm
So with end of this season it ended a book as well right? I was thinking on continuing the story through the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 17, 2014, 11:26:00 pm
The story is pretty much at the end of A Storm of Swords, but it has taken some chapters from the next books Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons, and some of the changes that have happened in the series may cause confusion, even if the story got to the same place, because of things not mentioned in the show. It has also not covered some of the final episodes in the Wall and the Epilogue that are important

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 18, 2014, 12:17:32 am
All the rooting for stannis has always seemed bizarre, book stannis is more likeable but still not relatable. His onion knight is probably the most relatable character to me in the books, but hes too stupidly loyal to root for.

all the main characters jon, arya, tyrion, dany start to piss you off. the only character I still root for is the blackfish!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 18, 2014, 07:37:48 am
If she dies Stannis loses one of his major secret weapons/OP weapons.
The way Daenerys got Dragons and Starks had/got direwolves. Stannis got a priestess that could revive dead ones and summon shadows amongst other things.
Hahaha direwolves as secretweapons.  One has a woman that spawns vaginademons, other one has dragons that can level an entire city. I dont think overgrown dogs count for anything really.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2014, 08:23:51 am
Hahaha direwolves as secretweapons.  One has a woman that spawns vaginademons, other one has dragons that can level an entire city. I dont think overgrown dogs count for anything really.

Direwolves are the shizz. But not necessarily ''secret weapons of mass destruction'' but you get the gist of it.
Most big houses/factions got some advantage over the other ones. Apparently the doggies get bigger and bigger so soon they'll be a bigger threat.

And yes ''vaginademons'' could easily kill someone like Daenerys a'la Renly if she's not cautious. I'd like to see their Dragons stop a shadow demon of doom.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 18, 2014, 08:49:40 am
All the rooting for stannis has always seemed bizarre, book stannis is more likeable but still not relatable. His onion knight is probably the most relatable character to me in the books, but hes too stupidly loyal to root for.

all the main characters jon, arya, tyrion, dany start to piss you off. the only character I still root for is the blackfish!
What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 18, 2014, 08:54:05 am
So with end of this season it ended a book as well right? I was thinking on continuing the story through the books.

I don't recommend. If you wanna read, read from start.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2014, 09:53:43 am
What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.

Nymeria...gloves.....NYMERIA GLOVES! ^__^
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Herezy92 on June 18, 2014, 10:13:29 am
Yes, well, going to the south =/= money
In the south, the life style is different, and money will be of course, more important than in the grand North.
And i don't think they will refuse golds. :D
It's not like Stannis will pay them with literature.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Freland on June 18, 2014, 10:53:12 am
I don't recommend. If you wanna read, read from start.

This. If you do not start with the first book you will be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of characters (over 1200 named characters). Also the show has diverged quite a bit from the books - some characters are even living at the end of book 5 which are already dead in the show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Herezy92 on June 18, 2014, 04:22:25 pm
I like Stannis as a character in general, but I can't stand that freaking red woman and all this religion thingie... Hope she dies soon, in a brutal way.
Considering that he is killing all his characters, it might happen faster than espected. :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 18, 2014, 09:30:41 pm
This. If you do not start with the first book you will be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of characters (over 1200 named characters). Also the show has diverged quite a bit from the books - some characters are even living at the end of book 5 which are already dead in the show.

It seems to be not only a matter of "This character is not supposed to die that early". I just read an essay on a facebook fan page in which the author announced that tthe storyline of a "main" character will go in a completely different direction in season 5 than it is in the books.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 18, 2014, 09:53:09 pm
It seems to be not only a matter of "This character is not supposed to die that early". I just read an essay on a facebook fan page in which the author announced that tthe storyline of a "main" character will go in a completely different direction in season 5 than it is in the books.
Arya, I'd guess. Or Jon, if the show has decided they need to keep him around for the viewers.
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Post by: Banok on June 18, 2014, 09:56:46 pm
What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.

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So I probably need to re read the books to have valid opinions. Ive read them twice but my memory is terrible.

edit: revelant and relevant, both work right?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2014, 10:16:51 pm
It seems to be not only a matter of "This character is not supposed to die that early". I just read an essay on a facebook fan page in which the author announced that tthe storyline of a "main" character will go in a completely different direction in season 5 than it is in the books.

Obviously Stannis. He's gotten the biggest fanbase and everyone loves him so they'll make him king in Season 5.

All hail King Stannis.

This needs to be reposted btw. (Thx Basnak)

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 18, 2014, 10:23:34 pm
Arya, I'd guess. Or Jon, if the show has decided they need to keep him around for the viewers.

I'm not sure if I should give the name here. Ironically this would be a spoiler for the book readers while the non-readers would remain unspoiled. Said author did not give a source from where he got this information (and I'm not nerd enough to google around for it), but if it's true, the term "different direction" can be taken literally/geographically.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2014, 10:28:43 pm
I'm not sure if I should give the name here. Ironically this would be a spoiler for the book readers while the non-readers would remain unspoiled. Said author did not give a source from where he got this information (and I'm not nerd enough to google around for it), but if it's true, the term "different direction" can be taken literally/geographically.

PM me it and source
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Post by: Franke on June 18, 2014, 11:08:33 pm
PM me it and source

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Strudog on June 21, 2014, 10:25:56 am
Just started reading the books, i am already hooked, there are some different things in the book than what occurs on the TV show. I must admit for any non-book reader, give this a go.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Smoothrich on June 22, 2014, 05:58:51 pm
Just started reading the books, i am already hooked, there are some different things in the book than what occurs on the TV show. I must admit for any non-book reader, give this a go.

The TV show fails hard in depicting the "living world" of ASOIAF. Every character has tons of relatives and backstories that all play into the story somehow, generations of families feuding and intermarrying (enjoy all the Lannister cousin fucking) that adds a ton of depth, that the show understandably cannot get into at all.

Also if you enjoy military history at all, the books spend a good deal of time talking about military strategy, where you get to sit in on discussions and debates of the political and maneuver decisions behind major players in the war of the five kings, (almost heh) always culminating in bad ass battle scenes that turn gritty and gory as fuck with thousands of troops, that the show simply cannot do even at its best attempts like Battle of Blackwater.

That's all on top of the fantastic dialogue, twists, and memorable characters you get in the TV show. Its good, yeah.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 23, 2014, 08:27:05 pm
Thought I give this thread a friendly bump with a gem I found on YT (and that some of you might already know) before it falls into Winter Summer Sleep again...

*Warning* Might contain some Season 4 spoilers

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Osiris on June 23, 2014, 08:45:26 pm
a video of every death in season 4 "might" contain spoilers  :lol:
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 23, 2014, 09:53:29 pm
a video of every death in season 4 "might" contain spoilers  :lol:

For who lol
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Havoco on June 24, 2014, 12:40:32 am
Season 4 is over. Its all free game now.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Osiris on June 24, 2014, 12:42:46 am
For who lol

well maybe some people are behind :D So i guess its ok to post spoilers when season is over, if they haven't seen it screw them but not ok to post spoilers from the book ^^
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 24, 2014, 12:59:13 am
well maybe some people are behind :D So i guess its ok to post spoilers when season is over, if they haven't seen it screw them but not ok to post spoilers from the book ^^

I got banned once on PWMod for spoiling that Ned Stark dies lol. And keep in mind series was at Season 4 by then. Pretty good series but by GOD the nerds needs to loosen their grip around it.

If i were to spoil Sons of Anarchy or True Detective or whatever series (if they were possible to spoil) nobody would give a damn :l
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Post by: Osiris on June 24, 2014, 01:02:58 am
im sure some would :D I guess its the same as people raging over harry potter spoilers when they don't read the books only watch the films but expect no one else to talk about them :D i was just lulzing about the maybe spoilers part  :wink:
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 24, 2014, 02:00:37 am
Greywurm can spit!
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Post by: Leesin on June 24, 2014, 08:18:28 am
Greywurm can spit!

Really? to me it just sounded like a slow and dull auto-tuned song with rather shallow lyrics lol.
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Post by: Franke on June 24, 2014, 05:37:47 pm
a video of every death in season 4 "might" contain spoilers  :lol:

The addition of my warning was meant as a joke. Do not blame me, German humor won't go any further. Everyone who is one week behind should not read this thread anyway as usually the matters of the latest episode are discussed here anyway.
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Post by: Osiris on June 24, 2014, 09:15:15 pm
new trailer is here boys!

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Post by: Tiger on June 27, 2014, 01:40:47 am
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Post by: BASNAK on June 30, 2014, 12:34:49 am

All hail the king of Besteros
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Post by: Franke on July 01, 2014, 10:17:04 pm
Officially confirmed: season 5 scenes in Dorne will be shot in Spain (http://hbowatch.com/spain-to-serve-as-dorne-in-game-of-thrones-season-5/)
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 03, 2014, 04:29:31 pm
Me after episode 10:

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Tyrion is one of the most likable characters in the series. The way he is written is already a huge boost to popularity. Plus the actor has done a really great job with the material. Of course as someone who thinks Stannis, the moron who let himself be convinced by a slutty, lying, human sacrificing, evil blood magic sorceress he's some sort of world-saving messiah, neatly combining gullibility, idiocy and narcissism in one neat package, is the best character in the series and the one most deserving of the Iron Throne your perspective is automatically flawed and stupid.

Please re-read all of Stannis and Tyrions chapters, you've obviously understood it all wrong.

Or if you haven't read the books this is kind of good I guess.

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Anyone else worried about George dying by the way?

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Edit 1: Gotta admit that Stannis is my favorite character. He's very likeable despite all the characters in the books hating him. He uses Melisandre so not sure what some of you are talking about, him being her puppet. Also extremly just, not in a Eddard way, more of a "Traitors shall be punished, and those who do good shall be rewarded." I read a chapter when he was just sitting around in Dragonstone and the King's hand at that time suggested to go plunder Crab's Island and shit cause they didn't swore fealty and he refused. He for the first time showed an Eddard way and I really started to get into him.
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But I'm happy with all as long as Daenerys never sets foot on Westeros.

Edit 2: Gotta post this aswell, found it pretty humorous.

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Post by: Tiger on July 03, 2014, 10:11:28 pm
How tall is your favorite character!? (xD look at Bran Stark)
http://imgur.com/mSUjE (http://imgur.com/mSUjE)
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Post by: Oberyn on July 03, 2014, 11:37:20 pm
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 04, 2014, 12:33:06 am
I'd disagree on just that. I don't think he's believing in any religion since his parents died, neither does he truly believe he is AA. He's possibly and likely using Melisandre to seize the throne and make peace in the realm but we can't really take anything for granted since Stannis is not a POV. I hope he is in TWOW cause it would be really interesting to see what's going on in his head. I agree on your last part tough, and the look Melisandre gave Jon in the last episode makes it seem like the showrunners are rushing in on that aswell.

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Another thing I missed was the Jaime-Tyrion dialogue about Cersei and her lovers.
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Post by: Sagar on July 04, 2014, 01:06:16 pm
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Post by: Tiger on July 06, 2014, 12:22:19 am
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Post by: Xant on July 06, 2014, 09:27:42 am
Nobody figured that one out before
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Post by: the real god emperor on July 06, 2014, 11:01:51 pm
About Tysha:

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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on July 06, 2014, 11:06:57 pm
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Post by: Franke on July 08, 2014, 12:32:29 am
No need to put this into a spoiler as it is just different from the show: There is such a scene in the books. IIRC Tyrion even tries to have his revenge on Jamie by claiming it was him who murdered Joffrey (who, as Tyrion knows at this point, was Jamie's son)
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Post by: Oberyn on July 08, 2014, 04:05:47 am
They're going to change Tyrion's story arc.
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Post by: Molly on July 08, 2014, 10:04:55 am
They're going to change Tyrion's story arc.
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Post by: Moncho on July 08, 2014, 10:37:51 am
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Post by: Molly on July 08, 2014, 11:48:16 am
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Post by: Tiger on July 09, 2014, 03:26:05 pm
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Post by: Osiris on July 17, 2014, 08:04:01 pm
sneak preview of the next season with some famous guest stars and littlefinger going badass

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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on July 18, 2014, 01:17:36 pm
Spoilers!  :lol:
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Post by: NejStark on July 21, 2014, 12:38:51 pm
Game of skrubs

http://youtu.be/IOWdchnG8vQ?t=14s
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Post by: Banok on July 25, 2014, 11:47:25 pm

racial diversity. I like that hotah is black, why not he is supposed to be a foreigner. but why is nym sand so completely asian looking, I don't see how that isn't going to be completely jarring.

the only actor I recognised is playing a character name I don't remember, so I think thats a clear sign they will be doing alot more with that character since they got such a good actor.

I thought mycella looks 20 and very attractive, but I looked her up and shes not even legal. still going to look like a big age jump I think.
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Post by: Franke on July 29, 2014, 12:21:13 pm
Aah, finally the Sand Snakes...

Any idea why they recast Myrcella?

The guy who plays Doran Martell seems a bit skinny to me. Isn't Doran supposed to be obese?

It seems they made a pretty decent job with these new-casts, from first glance, my favorite is Areo Hotah.

EDIT: I wonder if that guy who is "so excited about being part of this epic series" is aware of how his character is being portrayed in the book.
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Post by: NejStark on July 29, 2014, 02:38:24 pm

Any idea why they recast Myrcella?

The guy who plays Doran Martell seems a bit skinny to me. Isn't Doran supposed to be obese?

It seems they made a pretty decent job with these new-casts, from first glance, my favorite is Areo Hotah.

Actual spoilers i suppose?
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Post by: Moncho on July 29, 2014, 02:46:41 pm
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Post by: Angantyr on July 29, 2014, 02:53:46 pm
Think you guys are thinking about Lord Wyman Manderly or Mace Tyrell when you're talking of obesity. Doran Martell is slim, but has gout.
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Post by: LordBerenger on July 29, 2014, 04:16:05 pm
Where do i remember Jonathan Pryce (last old guy) from...  :?
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Post by: NejStark on July 29, 2014, 04:28:12 pm
Ah, I thought Gout was a side effect of obesity.. Turns out it isnt.
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Post by: Tomas_Miles_again on July 29, 2014, 05:05:56 pm
Jonathan Pryce - loads of things but maybe... Pirates of the Caribbean?
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Post by: LordBerenger on July 29, 2014, 06:49:43 pm
Jonathan Pryce - loads of things but maybe... Pirates of the Caribbean?

Yes i think. He was like a governor something. Lol
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Post by: Falka on September 10, 2014, 07:13:01 pm

Maybe wasn't posted before  :P
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Post by: Zerkain on September 13, 2014, 01:25:35 pm
Daenerys gets eaten by her dragons.
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Post by: Bittersteel on September 13, 2014, 05:55:06 pm
omg stop spoiling
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Post by: Franke on September 14, 2014, 05:31:14 pm
Daenerys gets eaten by her dragons.

Too late, she already got eaten by Daario...
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Post by: Molly on September 14, 2014, 06:29:26 pm
Too late, she already got eaten by Daario...
...partly.
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Post by: Zerkain on September 17, 2014, 11:39:56 am
Hodor is actualy a Dragon.
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Post by: Franke on September 22, 2014, 09:52:34 pm
I know it has been a while (actually only around 6 months until season 5 starts, wohoooo), but I stumbled across this picture on FB and decided to share it here in order to give proof to the theory on how the Tyrell's managed to smuggle the poison that killed Joffrey to the wedding.

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Post by: ARN_ on January 30, 2015, 07:37:51 pm

Season 5 trailer, get ready for the hype

Potential spoilers, you have been warned
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Post by: Sharpe on January 30, 2015, 08:19:21 pm
Total and complete Spoilers, do not open if you haven't read book four or five yet

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Post by: Xant on January 30, 2015, 08:37:48 pm
But whose tits will we see?
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Post by: ARN_ on January 30, 2015, 08:49:09 pm
Total and complete Spoilers, do not open if you haven't read book four or five yet

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Post by: Bittersteel on January 30, 2015, 08:53:56 pm
Fucking shit fuck dick, no Stannis in the trailer, I'm gonna rip a dick I swear to god. BTW; Got this before when I swore fealty to Stannis on the website:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cImNHuBto0

*Knees are bending*

But on other notes, D&D fucking shit up again by the looks of things. Writing new shitty story plots like Missandei and Grey Worm and not giving a shit about plots that are important to the ones who are not horny men or tumblr feminists. Also, what the fuck is up with Varys choosing some incompetent bitch ass queen who knows jackshit about ruling over ze one he was supposed to choose. Fucking fuck. Obviously they're gonna fuck over Stannis character again, obviously this season is also gonna suck but I'm gonna watch it just to see more of Stannis, the little there is and any potential Greyjoys.
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Post by: Moncho on January 30, 2015, 10:24:53 pm
Why so bitter?
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Post by: Bittersteel on January 31, 2015, 10:03:55 am
haha
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Post by: Molly on January 31, 2015, 10:26:30 am
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Post by: pogosan on January 31, 2015, 12:40:47 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on January 31, 2015, 04:16:14 pm
But whose tits will we see?

Hodor?

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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on February 25, 2015, 03:42:23 pm
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Post by: Asheram on April 08, 2015, 03:03:02 am
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Post by: Xant on April 12, 2015, 10:55:48 am
First 4 episodes leaked.
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Post by: Casimir on April 12, 2015, 01:56:08 pm
If anyone does watch the leaked ones don't be a dick and post spoiler
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Post by: ThePoopy on April 12, 2015, 02:07:17 pm
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Post by: the real god emperor on April 14, 2015, 04:37:53 pm
So.. Can we speak about all 4 episodes here? Or last 3 still considered spoilers? :D
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Post by: Xant on April 14, 2015, 05:04:37 pm
Why would they be? This is the internet man, they might be considered spoilers in some nursing home or something.

3 and 4 were good episodes. Glad we get to see some Bronn action.

The ambush in episode 4 by the Harpysons was kinda lame. It was what, ~8 fully armored and armed Unsullied (best infantry in the world, trained from birth, etc., etc) against maybe twice that number of peasants wearing robes and wielding a combination of knives and swords. In an enclosed space where the Unsullied could have just closed the gaps and kept them at bay forever with their spears. Instead, they get slaughtered as if they were some fresh recruits... all, of course, except the one Named Character Unsullied whose helmet Dramatically Gets Knocked Off so we can see Who's Fighting. It's like that Ninja trope. Then Selmy comes and looks cringe-worthily slow while the Sons of Harpy politely refuse to attack him from behind for the longest time. All in all, the action scenes have improved, the Selmy thing was clearly a limitation of the actor.
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Post by: pogosan on April 14, 2015, 05:49:40 pm
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Post by: Xant on April 14, 2015, 08:34:05 pm
How the hell you didn't die after watching last three episodes in such "quality"?
Absolutely nothing wrong with the quality. Not the best, but not bad either.
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Post by: the real god emperor on April 14, 2015, 09:18:56 pm
Why would they be? This is the internet man, they might be considered spoilers in some nursing home or something.

3 and 4 were good episodes. Glad we get to see some Bronn action.

The ambush in episode 4 by the Harpysons was kinda lame. It was what, ~8 fully armored and armed Unsullied (best infantry in the world, trained from birth, etc., etc) against maybe twice that number of peasants wearing robes and wielding a combination of knives and swords. In an enclosed space where the Unsullied could have just closed the gaps and kept them at bay forever with their spears. Instead, they get slaughtered as if they were some fresh recruits... all, of course, except the one Named Character Unsullied whose helmet Dramatically Gets Knocked Off so we can see Who's Fighting. It's like that Ninja trope. Then Selmy comes and looks cringe-worthily slow while the Sons of Harpy politely refuse to attack him from behind for the longest time. All in all, the action scenes have improved, the Selmy thing was clearly a limitation of the actor.

True story. I thought the same when the Unsullied guys got rekt, also wtf was wrong with Selmy he is the head advisor of queen and shit yet he decided to attack 20 men alone? Besides from that Stannis remains as my favourite ruler this season too.

How the hell you didn't die after watching last three episodes in such "quality"?

I ve watched them all with 720p . I always watch them with 720p :D
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Post by: pogosan on April 14, 2015, 09:58:47 pm
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on April 14, 2015, 10:05:04 pm
The start of this season was OK, but nothing amazing. Im usually hyping through each episode but this time it was a very meh feeling. I guess the good stuff is saved towards the later part of the season.

Im too spoilt after watching Xena, now thats a good show. (hilarious anyways)
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Post by: Molly on April 15, 2015, 08:41:42 am
Jon Snow went up the coolness scale tho.
And I am missing Arya. I wanna see Arya!
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2015, 09:15:39 am
Jon Snow went up the coolness scale tho.
And I am missing Arya. I wanna see Arya!

At least it's not like reading the last two books where you had like 5 arya chapters on 3000 pages or what.



Thought the episode was like every first, you get to see everyone briefly again, whoops episode over.
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Still don't know if I wanna see the ending of this season ... :(
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Post by: pogosan on April 15, 2015, 10:04:05 am
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Post by: Gnjus on April 15, 2015, 11:00:26 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on April 15, 2015, 11:40:45 am
Only seen first episode. Sucks that they havent had
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2015, 11:54:25 am
Never like the Stoneheart story much and I guess it would look cheesy on TV, hope they keep her out.

I don't remember anything strange happening during the execution in books so I guess she could do it without sparkles and colorful smoke.

maybe, but he seemed so truly to be himself. In the book the Lord of Bones tries to tell them he is not him which nobody believes of course. (I can't write 'in the book' without thinking of that youtube video  :D)

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Post by: pogosan on April 15, 2015, 12:06:39 pm
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on April 15, 2015, 12:12:13 pm
But then the whole Brienne's story goes straight to hell and she becomes useless to plot :c

they can easily replace her with some other character like they did many times already. Maybe I am wrong, wouldn't actually mind if lady stoneheart nonetheless appears, but I can understand the reasons to keep her out of the show.
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Post by: Viriathus on April 15, 2015, 12:44:02 pm
Game of thrones? nty, im straight.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on April 15, 2015, 07:14:46 pm
Juan Snow :lol:

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Post by: Asheram on April 15, 2015, 09:08:28 pm
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Post by: Algarn on April 15, 2015, 11:59:22 pm

Already got posted.

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Post by: Asheram on April 16, 2015, 12:09:07 am
 :lol:
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Post by: Algarn on April 16, 2015, 12:14:27 am
Already got posted, but can't deny it was an epic one. I should've added a spoiler in the quote tho.
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Post by: Latvian on May 20, 2015, 06:35:38 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 20, 2015, 07:08:04 pm
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Seen it. It was okay.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 28, 2015, 10:40:29 am
I wonder how long Sam lasted with Gilly
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 30, 2015, 01:10:12 pm
I wonder how long Sam lasted with Gilly

I was eating börek and now it is all on the floor ty
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2015, 01:29:22 pm
I was eating börek and now it is all on the floor ty

I was eating lahmacun and now it is all in my stomach ty

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Post by: Xant on May 30, 2015, 01:43:16 pm
I wonder how long Sam lasted with Gilly
What do you mean, you wonder? The entire thing was showed on the series.
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 30, 2015, 03:26:28 pm
What do you mean, you wonder? The entire thing was showed on the series.

I think you re underestimating Sam , always scare from the silent one.
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Post by: Moncho on May 30, 2015, 03:47:53 pm
The one doing the scaring was silent, but it wasn't Sam, it was Ghost. Sam was the one crapping his breeches while trying to appear a tad less cripple.
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Post by: Beauchamp on May 31, 2015, 12:31:42 pm
The one doing the scaring was silent, but it wasn't Sam, it was Ghost. Sam was the one crapping his breeches while trying to appear a tad less cripple.
i was cheering for those nightwatch guys that they will beat the shit outta that fatman and rape his chick so much that they both will have to leave the show, but meh...
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Post by: Weren on May 31, 2015, 04:40:21 pm
i was cheering for those nightwatch guys that they will beat the shit outta that fatman and rape his chick so much that they both will have to leave the show, but meh...
Easy there, Randyll.
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Post by: Moncho on May 31, 2015, 06:14:42 pm
Easy there, Randyll.
Apparently he is being cast for season 6 (care possible spoilers):
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Post by: Weren on June 01, 2015, 12:05:17 pm
Apparently he is being cast for season 6 (care possible spoilers):
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Cool

Welp pretty nice episode. The walkers shattering was just a bit anticlimactic.
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Post by: Teeth on June 01, 2015, 01:20:47 pm
Considering there are like 8 Valyrian steel swords in the entirety of Westeros, I did not find it anticlimactic that they proved such a hard counter against White Walkers. Especially since they made the living dead look way too strong, in the books they are surprisingly strong and hard to kill, but they are also slow and clumsy. Here they are surprisingly strong, hard to kill and fast and agile as fuck. With the numbers it just does not seem a sensible fight, though perhaps their weakness to fire still remains, did not look like the Wildlings figured that out though nor did the Night's Watch bother with any fire tactics.
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Post by: pogosan on June 01, 2015, 01:26:51 pm
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Post by: Weren on June 01, 2015, 01:54:28 pm
I meant the shattering effect itself, I am not complaining that Jon instagibbed him.
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Post by: karasu on June 01, 2015, 06:10:06 pm
Pretty epic, specially watching Mastodon members gettin' butchered.

Freakin' Brent seems like Tormund's twin brother.


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Post by: Xant on June 01, 2015, 09:50:41 pm
i was cheering for those nightwatch guys that they will beat the shit outta that fatman and rape his chick so much that they both will have to leave the show, but meh...
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 02, 2015, 04:37:02 pm
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fuck this political correct forum, can't even write einstein or bundle of sticks...
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 03, 2015, 09:49:00 pm
Last fight light vs darkness must contain dragons. Also dragon glass is still a thing

No thx cuz then that means Daenerys the dumb bitchy slut will be alive and win the throne.




Anyhow was i the only one waiting for a Ice Dragon or something to pop up supporting the White Walker army when that fight happened?
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Post by: Molly on June 04, 2015, 08:23:10 am
No thx cuz then that means Daenerys the dumb bitchy slut will be alive and win the throne.




Anyhow was i the only one waiting for a Ice Dragon or something to pop up supporting the White Walker army when that fight happened?
That contradicts... On one hand you don't wanna see Daenerys and her dragons to stay around but on the other hand you want the direct counterpart to Daenerys appear? :shock:
That's weird.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 04, 2015, 10:37:12 am
That contradicts... On one hand you don't wanna see Daenerys and her dragons to stay around but on the other hand you want the direct counterpart to Daenerys appear? :shock:
That's weird.

Because she's a dumb, bimbo, blonde, slutty bitch.
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  White Walker army with Nights King are badass. Emilia Clarke is a cool chick but her character fucking sucks. Plus what sucks even more is that because of many of the fans of the show are fans of her they'll have her be the last survivor or one of the last suriviving main characters in the show by the end of the series and cave in for pressure from the fans i'm sure.
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Post by: Guray on June 07, 2015, 03:42:41 am
The one doing the scaring was silent, but it wasn't Sam, it was Ghost. Sam was the one crapping his breeches while trying to appear a tad less cripple.

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Post by: Leesin on June 07, 2015, 07:50:21 am
Because she's a dumb, bimbo, blonde, slutty bitch.
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  White Walker army with Nights King are badass. Emilia Clarke is a cool chick but her character fucking sucks. Plus what sucks even more is that because of many of the fans of the show are fans of her they'll have her be the last survivor or one of the last suriviving main characters in the show by the end of the series and cave in for pressure from the fans i'm sure.

Feminists will get triggered if she dies, their PTSD will worsen and they will flood the internet with vaginal rage.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2015, 01:46:10 pm
Feminists will get triggered if she dies, their PTSD will worsen and they will flood the internet with vaginal rage.

And i will drink their tears. Also i legit seriously will give anyone here 50 000 CRPG gold if you photoshop a Daenerys head on a spike picture. Maybe i'll use it as my profile pic too. Or wallpaper
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Post by: pogosan on June 07, 2015, 02:56:39 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2015, 03:06:26 pm
Has to show her hair all the way down so it looks more like her.
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Post by: pogosan on June 07, 2015, 03:15:03 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 07, 2015, 04:07:45 pm
You do realize how decapitation works, right? Her hair was cut off. Obviously.

Still. Otherwise maybe the feminatzees wont recognize her.

Lel
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Post by: Moncho on June 07, 2015, 08:01:06 pm
You do realize how decapitation works, right? Her hair was cut off. Obviously.
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Post by: Algarn on June 07, 2015, 11:45:59 pm
I'm almost sure Jon Snow and Tyrion are going to die now.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 01:05:12 am
I'm almost sure Jon Snow and Tyrion are going to die now.

Yeah...''die'' lel.

Pls photoshop a better Daenerys head on a spike pic for 50 000 crpg gold guaranteed. Also u would get a free Berenger approves ticket if u make the spike go through the top of the head too.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 08, 2015, 04:22:00 pm
That scene with Stannis daughter was really fucked up.
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Post by: pogosan on June 08, 2015, 04:38:43 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 04:52:41 pm
It's time for TV show spoilers to book readers. Hope Martin won't kill sweet Shireen :c

1:34 top lel
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 08, 2015, 05:03:22 pm
Ok, so now that we saw episode 9 last night...

Who else thought that seen with shireen was the most f*cked up thing ever? I honestly think I shed a tear or two, especially after those two heartfelt scenes between her and her father a few episodes ago, and Davos and her last night.

We literally watched a sweet little girl being burned alive by a crazed religious fanatic while she screamed for her parents to save her and her parents just stood there and watched for the most part. I liked Stannis and the gang until now, but that was just too far on Stannis' part.

So fuck you Stannis, Fuck that red haired ISIS bitch, and I hope her mother burns in hell herself for not coming to her daughter's aid sooner. What a bunch of pricks. For once I'm actually cheering for Ramsay the creep here. I hope the Boltons beat them into the snow.

EDIT: wow, rage much, sorry.   /endrant
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Post by: pogosan on June 08, 2015, 05:11:38 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 05:20:09 pm
I'd still bet on Stannis as the best king. But he'll probably die.

Lord of light has proven to be a badass so either Ramsay or Roose or both will die and Boltons will get rekkd hard.
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Post by: pogosan on June 08, 2015, 05:28:40 pm
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Post by: Algarn on June 08, 2015, 05:38:18 pm
Who's the most disgusting character now, between Stannis and Ramsey ?
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Post by: Oberyn on June 08, 2015, 05:45:38 pm
Still Ramsey, at least Stannis has some redeeming characteristics. Sure, he's narcissistic enough that he justifies burning his own daughter alive because he thinks he's the reincarnation of a legendary mythical hero destined to save the world, as "his" witch/whore/succubus combo assures him (although it's starting to become increasingly clear who owns who in that relationship), but he clearly recognizes how fucked up it is, and does it anyways. Still not an outright psychopath saddist like Ramsey, for whom burning a kid alive, even his own, would probably just be an afternoon's fun pasttime.

I hope Davos ends up killing Stannis when he realizes he sacrificed all his sons and his own life in the service of a monster.
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Post by: Weren on June 08, 2015, 05:48:14 pm
Got ninja'd.

What Oberyn said.  :P

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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 08, 2015, 05:49:27 pm
Who's the most disgusting character now, between Stannis and Ramsey ?

Is Milesandre an option?
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 05:51:26 pm
Is Milesandre an option?

Daenerys is an option
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on June 08, 2015, 08:35:06 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 08:50:41 pm
Found this on lelddit.


Lol'd. Stannis taking Shireen to a BBQ


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Post by: Xant on June 08, 2015, 09:37:19 pm
That last fight scene was so bad. Pacing was off, choreography was horrible, background actors were visibly "trying to look busy", Unsullied still dying like they're plebs instead of best infantry in the world, the mask guys still follow a "one at a time guys!" tactic and their new battle strategy called "when a dragon comes let's stand still while it eats us" and "let's not throw our spears at Daenerys."

Before that, the pit fights were ok. Jorah was clearly the weakest link, being noticeably slow and unbelievable when he killed people, but the Water Dancer guy looked pretty good.


In fact, rewatching it, the Water Dancer looked really good. It's bad because having one good guy in a fight scene like that just highlights and underlines how bad the rest are. Jorah's last roll-kill was the worst...
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Post by: Moncho on June 08, 2015, 10:05:20 pm
Let me headbutt first into a spear coming my way!
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Post by: Vibe on June 08, 2015, 10:10:37 pm
Let me headbutt first into a spear coming my way!

Had a laugh at the arena fight as well. Oh let me just impale myself on your spear!
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 10:17:22 pm
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Post by: Teeth on June 08, 2015, 10:33:11 pm
God it was awful. What were they even trying to convey with Jorah flailing about on the floor, dropping his weapon on like four occasions? That he is a useless sack of shit who wins through sheer luck or something? It would be bad enough if only the choreography was terrible, but none of the combat scenarios make any sense, especially this last one. It is all just way too comically retarded for me to take seriously. It is as if they do not even bother to write anything for combat scenarios, the script probably just says "insert 5 minute combat scene here".

I could name about 20 things which made zero sense on my first viewing. I don't understand that if I can pick out the inconsistent fake crap so easily, how come no one on the entire production team said like "hey, isn't it weird that they are throwing spears now and not before". Honestly this entire scene went way too far on the retard scale, I hope they get a load of shit for it. How can a series do so many things so right, and then do combat scenes so incredibly poorly. The quality difference is ridiculous. A series like Rome is probably on the same budget scale, and combat was never a big thorn in my eye there, let alone continuously. They don't even do anything with cameras to make it look better, they just show the lack of choreography in all its lame-ass glory.

And indeed, all the waterdancer guy shows is that combat could actually be good. Died a fucking lame-ass death too, getting stabbed in the back by the guy he magically forgot about. And the audience was cheering for the kill as well.
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Post by: Moncho on June 08, 2015, 10:35:54 pm
But hey, apparently all of this takes months to achieve to "professionals" doing their job:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-star-fight-scene-800237
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 08, 2015, 10:53:57 pm
Yeah, the choreography is complete crap sometimes. Jorah's roll attack looked like something I would do in ocarina of time. The whole gladiator fight sequence was just lawl.

However, the throwing spears made plenty of sense to me. They only brought down (boxes? bags?) of javelin things towards the end of the fight, and they probably brought them through the doors when hundreds of them flooded the arena. Which means they only really had the boxes opened by the time drogon got there. Because, you know.... BOXES OF SPEARS might be a little harder to hide in the stands than a golden mask.


Also, the CGI was just.... ouch for a good 10 minutes. The whole arena and dragon riding scene just looked oh so fake.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 08, 2015, 11:10:28 pm
How 2 make the last episode even sadder

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Post by: Sharpe on June 08, 2015, 11:27:11 pm
Im typically pretty excited about GoT Season Finales, I don't know if I am this time.
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Post by: Golem on June 09, 2015, 12:44:33 am
God it was awful. What were they even trying to convey with Jorah flailing about on the floor, dropping his weapon on like four occasions? That he is a useless sack of shit who wins through sheer luck or something? It would be bad enough if only the choreography was terrible, but none of the combat scenarios make any sense, especially this last one. It is all just way too comically retarded for me to take seriously. It is as if they do not even bother to write anything for combat scenarios, the script probably just says "insert 5 minute combat scene here".

I could name about 20 things which made zero sense on my first viewing. I don't understand that if I can pick out the inconsistent fake crap so easily, how come no one on the entire production team said like "hey, isn't it weird that they are throwing spears now and not before". Honestly this entire scene went way too far on the retard scale, I hope they get a load of shit for it. How can a series do so many things so right, and then do combat scenes so incredibly poorly. The quality difference is ridiculous. A series like Rome is probably on the same budget scale, and combat was never a big thorn in my eye there, let alone continuously. They don't even do anything with cameras to make it look better, they just show the lack of choreography in all its lame-ass glory.

And indeed, all the waterdancer guy shows is that combat could actually be good. Died a fucking lame-ass death too, getting stabbed in the back by the guy he magically forgot about. And the audience was cheering for the kill as well.
Maybe they picked up spears from dead unsullied or from some weapon racks in the combat area?
Otherwise I agree with you.
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Post by: Golem on June 09, 2015, 12:47:38 am
How 2 make the last episode even sadder

Laughed at this scene, shed tears of joy when dragon appeared at the end.
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Post by: Kalam on June 09, 2015, 12:47:59 am
Just watched episode 4.

Not sure how elite hoplite infantry loses to a bunch of guys with daggers. Close quarters? That hallway was just wide enough for the Unsullied to turtle up. If anything, it should have given them an advantage given their lack of numbers. They have fucking long pointed sticks. No way for those SoH to get through without first losing the first engagement. Numbers? There were about double the number of daggermen. Ambush? That was a stand up fight. It was no sicarii-style stab-and-run.

A sorry excuse for a theatric finish. Fuck, this is almost begging us to form our own tv production company to prove we can do better.

Guys, we need to get together with a bunch of GoPros.



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Post by: Jona on June 09, 2015, 01:00:43 am
Was I the only one thinking "Wow, Tyrion, Jorah and co. are all totally boned right now" after Dany just peaced out on her dragon? I mean, sure, those golden mask dudes were gunning for her, but why would they suddenly stop fighting after the dragon leaves when they outnumbered their enemies 10:1? If they don't kill those guys now they're gonna have to deal with them during their next attempt on Dany's life.

Personally I kind of like the intent behind the fight scene. This was Jorah against the best of the best from all the fighting pits in the surrounding area. No one really said he's the most badass knight around, he just so happens to be the only knight around. He isn't the Mountain or anything, he's isn't necessarily expected to be the best fighter. And the fight showed that... he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by the water dancer, and only survived cuz that other dude decided to stab the waterdancer before he finished off Jorah, cuz you know, that totally makes sense. :rolleyes: Could have easily let the waterdancer stab Jorah, then stabbed him only an instant later for an insta-win. Maybe it's some sort of honor thing, who knows. But yeah, that said, 90% of that choreography was honestly worse than the sand snakes scene. That fucking roll though.  :lol:
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Post by: Torben on June 09, 2015, 01:37:43 am
jorah kinda was the man last episode and this time he fought like a bitch.
the fuck is wrong with some of dem fighting scenes goddamit.
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Post by: F i n on June 09, 2015, 02:19:50 am
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Post by: Casimir on June 09, 2015, 03:10:10 am
Stannis is a psycho but anyone who wants to be the King of Westeros is pretty much fucked in the head anyway.  Besides if sacrificing his fucked up cornflake face brat will save his army and the seven kingdoms then you couldn't stop me from pouring a can of petrol over her. I hope Ramsay gets stabbed through the face by that vagina wraith of melissandre and the boltons all get flayed.
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 03:32:29 am
Was I the only one thinking "Wow, Tyrion, Jorah and co. are all totally boned right now" after Dany just peaced out on her dragon? I mean, sure, those golden mask dudes were gunning for her, but why would they suddenly stop fighting after the dragon leaves when they outnumbered their enemies 10:1? If they don't kill those guys now they're gonna have to deal with them during their next attempt on Dany's life.

Personally I kind of like the intent behind the fight scene. This was Jorah against the best of the best from all the fighting pits in the surrounding area. No one really said he's the most badass knight around, he just so happens to be the only knight around. He isn't the Mountain or anything, he's isn't necessarily expected to be the best fighter. And the fight showed that... he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by the water dancer, and only survived cuz that other dude decided to stab the waterdancer before he finished off Jorah, cuz you know, that totally makes sense. :rolleyes: Could have easily let the waterdancer stab Jorah, then stabbed him only an instant later for an insta-win. Maybe it's some sort of honor thing, who knows. But yeah, that said, 90% of that choreography was honestly worse than the sand snakes scene. That fucking roll though.  :lol:

Well drogon burned or scattered most of the harpy forces, and there was still at least 20-30 SUPPOSED badasses in a circle. Except the unsullied really are not turning out to be so badass ever since Dany set them free. And I'm still gonna have to say the choreography of the sand snakes battle was way worse, but Daznaq's pit was pretty bad... And yeah, that roll was a joke, I didn't really get that  :lol:

Oh yeah, but then there was that scene in the lands-of-always-winter that made NO sense.... So Jon and the gang sailed from hardhome (which is on the Eastern shore of the far north, a bit north of Eastwatch-by-the-sea), and landed in Eastwatch-by-the-sea OBVIOUSLY, unless they just sailed a few miles away from the battle and ran ashore.... So there is NO reason whatsoever for them to be passing through the wall in the castle black entrance. I don't know if that makes any sense to you guys who haven't seen the Westeros maps, but that bugged me to no end. Like honestly, where is the fleet then? Somewhere around hardhome? Did stannis' dudes just kick Jon and the wildlings off and make them walk to castle black? wtf? The episode was a disaster.  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Leesin on June 09, 2015, 07:41:28 am
Wasn't a big Stannis fan in the first place and now I don't like the character at all, I found him boring in the first place now he has burned his own child to death, more fucked up than Ramsay, though I actually like Ramsay just because he's bat shit crazy and a brilliant character altogether.

I have to agree the fight scenes were pretty bad, Jorah is an absolute melt, he really doesn't seem good enough with a sword to have been a Knight, plus the actor Iain Glen is just slow and awkward looking in every fight scene I've seen him in so that makes him look even worse than he is probably meant to look. The Unsullied seem to be absolutely fucking useless, they are supposed to be an awesome Infantry power yet they seem to get rekt pretty easily by a bunch of masked bundle of stickss, just a lot of this shit combined made the fight scenes shitty this episode.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2015, 10:36:38 am
Now, this really opens up Stannis. I mean, at this point he's going to question who he really is and what he's fighting for. I think the show will be able to develop him in a much more interesting way. Giving up pretty much the only thing he ever really cared for, and really to secure her own birthright. I don't think he's completely power hungry. He thinks he's doing what's right.

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Post by: Torben on June 09, 2015, 11:08:04 am
I don't think he's completely power hungry. He thinks he's doing what's right.

killing his own brother,  killing his daughter,  repetedly thinking about killing his only friend,  all for the greater good.  the greater good being a hot red psycho witch bitch with great titts  thats not only a good fuck,  but a great mindfuck as well  :mrgreen:
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 09, 2015, 11:18:40 am
Well, what he did was sick but on the other hand he had to care about thousands of people under his command who would probably starve/freeze do death, he cares about his people, he would be a good king.
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Post by: Teeth on June 09, 2015, 11:27:04 am
plus the actor Iain Glen is just slow and awkward looking in every fight scene I've seen him
I thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.

http://youtu.be/Q8dII-NmjpA?t=1m38s

On an unrelated note, Arya screaming "oysters, clams and cockels!" might be one of the worst sounds I have had to endure, god what an annoying voice.
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 09, 2015, 11:29:59 am
Well, what he did was sick but on the other hand he had to care about thousands of people under his command who would probably starve/freeze do death, he cares about his people, he would be a good king.

I don't really remember what caring soul brought those thousands of people into that starve/freeze scenario, please remind me :D :D :D
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Post by: Torben on June 09, 2015, 11:44:15 am
I thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.

http://youtu.be/Q8dII-NmjpA?t=1m38s

On an unrelated note, Arya screaming "oysters, clams and cockels!" might be one of the worst sounds I have had to endure, god what an annoying voice.

yeah its weird,  some scenes are absolotely ok,  other suck so much it isnt funny anymore.
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2015, 11:59:25 am
My jimmies are rustling because tons of people are defending the shitty directing/choreography of the Unsullied with "they're trained for the battlefield, not to be cops!!!!"

I'm not even sure what the logic is with that one, it's not like they're told they can only use their taser on the Sons of the Harpy...
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Post by: Vibe on June 09, 2015, 12:23:57 pm
My jimmies are rustling because tons of people are defending the shitty directing/choreography of the Unsullied with "they're trained for the battlefield, not to be cops!!!!"

I'm not even sure what the logic is with that one, it's not like they're told they can only use their taser on the Sons of the Harpy...

Lol people use that as an argument? It looked like they're trained to be strawmen more than anything else.
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Post by: Teeth on June 09, 2015, 12:30:38 pm
Well, I did recall reading in the books that their strength is discipline and that they are not as physically strong as other men because they lost their balls early. Which makes sense, so in situations where discipline matters less, they are less fearsome. Still, their training, experience and armour should make them more than a match for some city boys with kitchen knives. I don't know why they decide to show Unsullied getting insta-wrecked every time. The Harpies have overwhelming odds of 10 to 1 Unsullied anyway in every fight so far, they could easily show the Unsullied going beast mode for a bit only to be overwhelmed despite their obvious skill. Guess the Series Unsullied weren't trained to use swords, or no one thought of equipping them with swords in a city.
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Post by: Algarn on June 09, 2015, 12:49:13 pm
When I think again in the first fight in the arena, the agile guy had several times a nude neck fairly exposed, the guy couldn't hit him, and instead of cutting his throat off, the guy gently hit the back where the big guy had an armor. That's idiotic. They should hire a proper guy to make the fights, because it's getting retarded.
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2015, 01:19:58 pm
Well, I did recall reading in the books that their strength is discipline and that they are not as physically strong as other men because they lost their balls early. Which makes sense, so in situations where discipline matters less, they are less fearsome. Still, their training, experience and armour should make them more than a match for some city boys with kitchen knives. I don't know why they decide to show Unsullied getting insta-wrecked every time. The Harpies have overwhelming odds of 10 to 1 Unsullied anyway in every fight so far, they could easily show the Unsullied going beast mode for a bit only to be overwhelmed despite their obvious skill. Guess the Series Unsullied weren't trained to use swords, or no one thought of equipping them with swords in a city.
Yes, they'd be at a disadvantage if you took someone with Unsullied training + balls and put them 1v1 against them. But just like the Water Dancers own people left and right with no strength, the Unsullied should be killing people effortlessly - they've trained their whole lives. The series Unsullied are mentioned, by the way, as being "masters of the short sword" too. I mean, it'd make sense if 10 Unsullied lost against 10 Mercenaries in some alley fight because they're trained to fight on the battlefield, but that's about as far as that extends.

When I think again in the first fight in the arena, the agile guy had several times a nude neck fairly exposed, the guy couldn't hit him, and instead of cutting his throat off, the guy gently hit the back where the big guy had an armor. That's idiotic. They should hire a proper guy to make the fights, because it's getting retarded.
This happens constantly, same with the scene where Barristan died.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 09, 2015, 01:25:52 pm
Yeah thought this one was dumb as well. Just wanted it to be over asap.

Also on top of that, the CGI background when Daenerys was riding the dragon was bloody terrible. It seemed like a case of 'spent all the money on the dragon LOL so lets copy and paste a picture as the background'.
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2015, 01:28:49 pm
The dragon looked really good on my high-def episode when Daenerys was about to touch it, though, so props for that.
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Post by: Tibe on June 09, 2015, 01:29:41 pm
The Unsullied do appear more and more like the stormtroopers of the GoT universe. We keep hearing how powerful they are and yet what we see is the complete opposite.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 09, 2015, 01:35:09 pm
The dragon looked really good on my high-def episode when Daenerys was about to touch it, though, so props for that.

That's what I mean. The dragon looked great. But everything in the background, particularly during the flying, just looked bad so kinda ruined the overall effect.

The Unsullied do appear more and more like the stormtroopers of the GoT universe. We keep hearing how powerful they are and yet what we see is the complete opposite.

Yeah I get the feeling if you unleashed some of those messed up in the head mercenary bands on them they'd practically scream and run away. They just don't seem capable of even some semblance of co-operation and fighting skill. The way it's choreographed most of the kills they do get are basically lucky stabs on suicidal guys, otherwise they are totally boned.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 09, 2015, 03:02:27 pm
Maybe they were more badass when they were slaves and now when they're derpy regular soldiers they suck
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2015, 03:09:28 pm
Yes, they all lost their memories when they were freed.
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Post by: Molly on June 09, 2015, 06:16:11 pm
I like the episode overall. Mean when that little girl got taken away (eww...) and I liked the dragon bit. I think it looked great for a tv series.
Can't wait to see what Arya does next... Arya Stark best Stark!
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Post by: Overdriven on June 09, 2015, 06:25:48 pm
Leshma...get a life.
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 08:43:23 pm
I thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.

http://youtu.be/Q8dII-NmjpA?t=1m38s

On an unrelated note, Arya screaming "oysters, clams and cockels!" might be one of the worst sounds I have had to endure, god what an annoying voice.

Its like that frickin mister frosty that drives around my house 30 times a day blaring that same old ringy ding dong music that has the capability to penetrate 5 soundproof doors.

Also, a gladiator fight turning into a massive brawl in which the goodguys end up stuck in the middle of the arena in a hopeless manner in which a flying thing comes swooping in to save the day has been done before... So original. Star Wars anyone?


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Post by: Asheram on June 09, 2015, 09:29:30 pm
So book Stannis was stern, harsh overbearing but a character I still would of supported and who didn't burn his own daughter alive as a means to an end. Seems they made show Stannis a crazy lunatic.
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Post by: Xant on June 09, 2015, 09:39:17 pm
So book Stannis was stern, harsh overbearing but a character I still would of supported and who didn't burn his own daughter alive as a means to an end. Seems they made show Stannis a crazy lunatic.
Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 10:31:15 pm
Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.

Lol isn't it an irony that the early book readers who so famously spoiled the first 4 seasons of the show are now having their books ovelapped by the show... And shall soon have the books spoiled by the just as annoying show viewers I'm sure. Karma I guess  :?
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Post by: Oberyn on June 09, 2015, 11:17:08 pm
Yeah thought this one was dumb as well. Just wanted it to be over asap.

Also on top of that, the CGI background when Daenerys was riding the dragon was bloody terrible. It seemed like a case of 'spent all the money on the dragon LOL so lets copy and paste a picture as the background'.

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Post by: Jona on June 09, 2015, 11:28:02 pm
During that flight scene I could practically picture the actress sitting on a big blue blob, fan blowing in her face, with a guy pedaling on a bike in the background to make the scenery slide by.
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 11:32:52 pm
During that flight scene I could practically picture the actress sitting on a big blue blob, fan blowing in her face, with a guy pedaling on a bike in the background to make the scenery slide by.

I could just picture a guy sitting behind a computer watching a video of the actress sitting on a blue blob, fan blowing in her face, with a guy pedaling on a bike in the background to make the scenery slide by, while he just copy pastes super cheezy picures of pillars over the scenery in question.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 09, 2015, 11:40:45 pm
But hey, apparently all of this takes months to achieve to "professionals" doing their job:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-star-fight-scene-800237

I was unable to take anything in that article seriously past the 1st paragraph.

I almost spit milk all over my keyboard trying to read through that.
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Post by: Vovka on June 10, 2015, 12:39:00 am
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 10, 2015, 12:48:06 am
Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.
Yeah but that all depends on whether he is successful at Winterfell or not. Maybe in the next book GRRM is planning on him losing so badly at Winterfell and that he somehow makes it back to Castle Black where the witch and his daughter are and breaks down and does this crap there, who knows.

Lol isn't it an irony that the early book readers who so famously spoiled the first 4 seasons of the show are now having their books ovelapped by the show... And shall soon have the books spoiled by the just as annoying show viewers I'm sure. Karma I guess  :?
I highly doubt the show will spoil the books very much considering how far the show has deviated from them, maybe the final outcome of some characters and those contesting the throne but GRRM would have to go back and rewrite the past books and drop the characters the show dropped, add all the stuff the show added to the characters in which didn't happen in the books etc. For example unless that happened I don't even see how show Sansa could ever spoil book Sansa's story except maybe having the circumstances of their deaths be similar, because right now they are in 2 totally different places with totally different narratives atm, etc.
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Post by: Lars on June 10, 2015, 07:12:50 am
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Post by: Xant on June 10, 2015, 07:46:43 am
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Seriously. He starts his roll from 10 meters away and would have literally rolled into a spear if the spear guy hadn't decided to rush forward while putting his spear as far away to the right as possible, then throwing it up even before he's hit.

In fact, watching the gif, the spear guy reminds me of a malfunctioning C3PO.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 10, 2015, 01:16:52 pm
The spear guy just seems to awkwardly stomp forward like he's got the shits without any concern for where his spear is.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 10, 2015, 01:29:52 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FVMEb32ODk&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: Sharpe on June 10, 2015, 05:57:26 pm
Clearly the Meereenese Champion was confused as to why the Westerosi Knight would purposely fall to the ground in the middle of a fight. :roll eyes:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 10, 2015, 06:19:36 pm
Seriously. He starts his roll from 10 meters away and would have literally rolled into a spear if the spear guy hadn't decided to rush forward while putting his spear as far away to the right as possible, then throwing it up even before he's hit.

In fact, watching the gif, the spear guy reminds me of a malfunctioning C3PO.

AHAHAHAHAHA this was the gif I was looking for but couldn't find. I could watch that replay for hours  :lol:

I cannot believe that they spent MONTHS planning this... And that this scene was supposed to "blow fans away." lolololol
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kenda on June 11, 2015, 03:03:55 pm
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on June 11, 2015, 03:06:41 pm
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.

Who would want to see his abomination of a face anyway
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 11, 2015, 04:49:44 pm
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.

End of season 4.

He became a tree.
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Post by: BASNAK on June 12, 2015, 12:57:16 am
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Post by: Kenda on June 12, 2015, 07:58:06 am
End of season 4.

He became a tree.
thx LOL XD ;P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 12, 2015, 10:43:07 am
End of season 4.

He became a tree.

I was sure he meant this guy:

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Post by: Lars on June 12, 2015, 07:40:09 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 13, 2015, 01:52:39 pm
RIP Shireen. :(

https://youtu.be/sYvY87kx3QU
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 13, 2015, 07:23:28 pm
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.

I've never read the books, but from what I understood, Bran's gonna skip this season. He's storyline got so much further ahead from the others. As in everything that happened to him, wasnt supposed to happen yet. It was to early. But I quess they figured it would work, since he was so isolated from the rest of the story that noone would notice or care.

And they figured right.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Guray on June 15, 2015, 04:04:34 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. NOT JON! FUCK YOU OLLY.YOU FOOOKING TWAT!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 15, 2015, 05:08:56 am
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. NOT JON! FUCK YOU OLLY.YOU FOOOKING TWAT!
They didn't burn his body, fools! Jon Snow for the new Night's King! GO JON SNOW!

10th episode feels exremely awkward. Yet exciting. But awkward.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 15, 2015, 05:45:55 am
And thus begins the Ma Ma clan!
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2015, 08:40:08 am
As with every season I think it would be better if they didn't put all the kills in the last episode, but rather spread it around just a little bit. Tbh I was expecting Jon to die way earlier, since he's been popular for quite some time now, and we all know who GRRM likes to kill.

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 12:06:48 pm
Nice...my 3 of my favorite characters got fucked. Jon Snow? Dead until proven otherwise. Stannis? Most likely dead unless LSH would pop up and stop damn dumb blonde, butch bitch Brienne.

And Arya Snow? Blind.

Even tho there's a chance Jon Snow gets revived by Melisandre or whatever it still won't happen till the next season/book and thus he's dead until proven otherwise.
And Ramsay still alive, Roose still alive, no Aegon/Young Griff, No LSH and the worst part that Daenerys dumb slut is still alive and is still the slutty drama queen.
Fucking D&D


And in return for fucking us over we get dead ''filler characters'' like Myranda and Meryn fucking Trant.


100 bux says Theon+Sansa will run away from Ramsay chasing them through a forest in horror esque styled episodes.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 15, 2015, 12:31:21 pm
So, after that little prick Ramsay (who never fought in a war before) was able to infiltrate the camp of Stannis Baratheon's army (one of the most skilled commanders in Westeros) with "20 good men" (must have been a mix of Chuck Norris, Vlad Pootin and the Avengers), setting half of the tents and all of the siege equipment afire SIMULTANEOUSLY, now Stannis gets ALL his horses stolen by a bunch of sellswords in the night UNOPPOSED.

At least they spared him the shame of getting killed by that fucking topless hipster villain Ramsay.

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Unfortunately I don't find the link anymore but on FB I stumbled over an interview with Kit Harrington in which he confirms that he will not return. So IF Jon survives, he will do this warged into a squirrel or something...

EDIT: Apart fom my Stannis QQ I want to say that the only good thing about this episode (apart from Lena Headey's boobs) was that scene with Myrcella. When Ellaria Sand said to her "I wish you all the best in the world" I was like "WTF, she does hate this girl to the bone..."
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 12:53:00 pm
So, after that little prick Ramsay (who never fought in a war before) was able to infiltrate the camp of Stannis Baratheon's army (one of the most skilled commanders in Westeros) with "20 good men" (must have been a mix of Chuck Norris, Vlad Pootin and the Avengers), setting half of the tents and all of the siege equipment afire SIMULTANEOUSLY
Hahaha, that was retarded. And the explanation they gave for it? "Hurrr, they know the terrain, durrrr!" What the fuck? How does """knowing the terrain""" help you infiltrate into a camp on flat ground?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Beauchamp on June 15, 2015, 01:20:04 pm
they should have killed the fatman instead and leave Snow for later.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalp on June 15, 2015, 01:25:45 pm
Kurwa much  :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 01:35:44 pm

At least they spared him the shame of getting killed by that fucking topless hipster villain Ramsay.


Unfortunately I don't find the link anymore but on FB I stumbled over an interview with Kitz Harrington in which he confirms that he will not return. So IF Jon survives, he will do this warged into a squirrel or something...


Rather be killed by Ramsay than that dumb bitch Brienne.

Also the interview http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview


Also i found the best sub-reddit EVER.

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http://www.reddit.com/r/fuckolly
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Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2015, 01:38:01 pm
Also the interview http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview

'Et tu, Olly?' good one. Scene was quite similar if you think about it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on June 15, 2015, 02:16:42 pm
Some people refer to it as the Ides of Marsh, since in the books Bowen Marsh is the leader of the conspiracy that gets him killed. Not sure if he is around much in the show though, maybe one of the stabbers
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2015, 02:17:26 pm
Some people refer to it as the Ides of Marsh, since in the books Bowen Marsh is the leader of the conspiracy that gets him killed. Not sure if he is around much in the show though, maybe one of the stabbers

wicked
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Post by: Franke on June 15, 2015, 02:27:22 pm
Oh, and while we're at it

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Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 02:27:38 pm
The fact that Melisandre rides in just before Jon is stabbed is a pretty big indicator that Jon might not be all that dead.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on June 15, 2015, 02:32:48 pm
For some strange reason (unknown to me) my thoughts went to Berenger while watching this episode.....and I fucking rofled hard.  8-)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: BASNAK on June 15, 2015, 02:41:04 pm
I hope the white walkers kill everyone and win. The sparrows are pretty cool too they're like the ISIS of westeros.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 02:54:34 pm
For some strange reason (unknown to me) my thoughts went to Berenger while watching this episode.....and I fucking rofled hard.  8-)

Stannis hater




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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Segd on June 15, 2015, 03:08:02 pm
I hope the white walkers kill everyone and win.
Exactly my thoughts after seeing Cercei's scene(I wished that she'd order to kill everyone on the street right after she entered the castle). Fucking brainless religious mob! And I was hoping so much to see John's eyes turn blue so he would rape everyone in the castle with his valyrian dick.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on June 15, 2015, 04:32:19 pm
God, I sure hope the whole Winterfell battle affair isn't such a disappointing silent fart in the next book. Seasoned military commander that forgets that sallying out is a thing, lel, among the other dozens of unbelievably dumb shit in that entire retarded scenario. Guess there is little chance of the opposite outcome though in the book, sadly. I would have expected Stannis as a pretender Azor Azai sitting in Winterfell to make a much more interesting and conflicted character than Ramsay. Ramsay is just so purely evil that he is just boring. His antics are not interesting at all to watch for me and his daddy issues are not enough to redeem him as a character. Don't even get me started on the fucking Reek shit.

I dislike plot armour as much as the next guy, but you can only kill so many of the interesting characters before there is nothing worth watching/reading anymore. Since this last episode seems to have wrapped up three storylines, I guess some book storylines that have been missing so far will be introduced into the series next season, otherwise there will be very little storylines left to watch.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 05:16:51 pm
That's not true. There's one character who has a plot armor that will never be broken.

AND THAT'S THAT DUMB, BITCHY, SLUTTY, PIECE OF SHIT, DRAMA QUEEN DAENERYS! Casuals and her hype train is 2 stronk for them to have her dead. She'll be the last surviving bitch I'm sure.




Atleast she might get mass raped by all those dudes on horses. And when i saw that my reaction:





Oh, and while we're at it

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Oh and just thought of this.
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Post by: Tibe on June 15, 2015, 06:09:25 pm
I agree with Vibe. To be honest I wasnt even least bit shocked.

Wow GRRM, you killed Stannis and Jon? What is it, like the 6th character you specifically characterized to make us love and kill it? After doing it multiple times, id actually be more shocked if someone who we do give a lot of shits about ends up as the questionable winner from all this. And tbh, they tried their best, but I never really grew fond of Jon anyway.

After actually looking up some lore on the internet, I feel like Theon is ment for more and that the show wasnt doing him justice before he turned to Reek. I mean, some of the traits claim him as super handsome, arrogant, cocky etc. Even I look better irl than that actor and I aint no model either. :D I mean, he does a fine job as Reek, he did a shit job as Theon, asfar as I read from the lore.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 15, 2015, 06:19:58 pm
That's not true. There's one character who has a plot armor that will never be broken.

AND THAT'S THAT DUMB, BITCHY, SLUTTY, PIECE OF SHIT, DRAMA QUEEN DAENERYS! Casuals and her hype train is 2 stronk for them to have her dead. She'll be the last surviving bitch I'm sure.




Atleast she might get mass raped by all those dudes on horses. And when i saw that my reaction:





Oh and just thought of this.
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 06:30:56 pm
It's great when a show/book series kills a couple of main characters to show the watchers and readers that nobody is safe, characters won't always pull a James Bond when in a shitty situation. But killing EVERY SINGLE INTERESTING CHARACTER is just fucking dumb.

The show, much like the books, has went downhill ever since book/season 1.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 06:36:41 pm
Atleast Jamie is alive. I hope he expands his gimmick and becomes the "queen bitch dragon slayer".
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tibe on June 15, 2015, 06:46:17 pm
He will eventually die aswell, im quite sure of it. The only likeable character that I imagine will probably get to live by the end of (by now quite predictable) GRRM-s purge is that Bronn guy. Not only does he appear like the survivortype, he doesnt get enough screentime, or plotrelevancepoints to appear worthy enough to being killed off by the writer.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Teeth on June 15, 2015, 06:48:13 pm
Atleast Jamie is alive. I hope he expands his gimmick and becomes the "queen bitch dragon slayer".
Still hasn't gained any of his pre-amputation swagger back though, now he is just a plain old good guy. Still, the actor is really well cast, is doing a great job and there are some laughs here and there, so Jamie still interests me in the hopes he goes and does some badass shit soon.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 06:51:14 pm
Still hasn't gained any of his pre-amputation swagger back though, now he is just a plain old good guy. Still, the actor is really well cast, is doing a great job and there are some laughs here and there, so Jamie still interests me in the hopes he goes and does some badass shit soon.

After last nights episode he will.

Fuck all of you, let me believe this.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 06:51:31 pm
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Ur assuming again show is 100% the same as the books...but then again this is Daenerys we're talking about. Anything that happens with her is all good in the end. Fucking bitch.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 06:53:37 pm
I still wish Drogon just collapsed on top of her and smothered her stupid fucking, entitled, arrogant, cunt face.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 06:57:54 pm
I still wish Drogon just collapsed on top of her and smothered her stupid fucking, entitled, arrogant, cunt face.

Yeah that would be perfect.


Still offering 50 000 CRPG gold if anyone wanna make a proper Daenerys chopped off head and preferably put on a spike picture (photoshop) with blood or without and hair hanging down her neck.


Daenerys is a fictional character. But on the hate scale for me personally, she's worse than Bieber at this point.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 15, 2015, 07:01:49 pm
Well I guess us book readers now know the outcome of the battle of Winterfell :x  I always assumed Stannis would be victorious, watching that on TV was painful...like Teeth said, Stannis is supposed to be a brilliant strategist, and he just sits on open ground not realizing the defenders could very well sally out and attack?  And he just pulls out his sword without giving any battle commands (I realize he was fucked at that point, but you could try to pull some strategy out of your ass...or maybe not stand on open ground thinking you're safe).

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*** BOOK SPOILERS***  It's very possible Jon is just dead.

I thought it was kind of fitting he died in similar circumstances to his "father" Ned.  Both of them were doing what they felt was right, and looking at the big picture of "what is right", but ignored the small details that could have saved their lives.  I think it's best for the kingdom that the Wildlings are south of the wall, to help fight the White Walkers, but Jon should have realized the crazy amount of discontent that was fomenting right in front of him (it wasn't like people weren't obvious in their disdain for his decision). 

I like watching the TV show, but I wish the directors of the show were able to stay more true to what happens in the books without changing major things around (leaving stuff out, changing which characters go and do certain things), because trying to keep the differences between the TV show and the books separate is difficult (at least for me). 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 07:14:14 pm
Also the whole King's Landing situation isn't explained even nearly adequately enough in the TV show. Some dudes in rags armed with clubs are doing whatever the fuck they want in the city and to the Queen? It's explained much better in the books why they have so much authority but in the show it's just "wtf, why do they let them do all this"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 15, 2015, 07:14:22 pm
Also I don't believe the TV show ever shows Jon dreaming about running around as a wolf (i.e. he's a changling) so I doubt he'll "warg" into Ghost as he dies.  It's very possible Jon is just dead.

Good fucking job NOT mentioning any book spoilers...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Hirlok on June 15, 2015, 07:36:16 pm
Books >> TV Show.

They managed to cut out everything that I would have liked to see, and 98% of the alterations of the story line were for the worse.

"And now my watch(ing) is ended."

...and waiting for "Winds of Winter". Hope the show does not rub off on the 2 remaining books too much.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 15, 2015, 08:04:04 pm
Good fucking job NOT mentioning any book spoilers...

Sorry bro-ski, I've added spoilers if you want to edit your post to remove what I spoiled :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on June 15, 2015, 08:06:22 pm
Books >> TV Show.

They managed to cut out everything that I would have liked to see, and 98% of the alterations of the story line were for the worse.

"And now my watch(ing) is ended."

...and waiting for "Winds of Winter". Hope the show does not rub off on the 2 remaining books too much.

I'm assuming most of what the TV show content that is different from the book, isn't going to make much difference on the overarching plots, but I don't like the TV show spoiling the books (the conflict between Stannis and the Bolton's isn't ever "finalized" in A Dance With Dragons).  And even if the overarching plot doesn't differ much between the book and tv shows, the books are much more nuanced and interesting when it comes to where characters are, and why there are where they are, and doing what they are doing.  I don't want the books to be watered down because the TV show pretty much has to be (otherwise it wouldn't be very good TV). 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 15, 2015, 09:12:18 pm
I highly doubt the outcome for Stannis is going to be the same in the books because Bolton's army was just as bad off as Stannis' was, low food stores, snowed in etc they just had walls to sit behind. GArrArrMartin  just threw in an emissary from the iron bank of Braavos who was alliancing Braavos with Stannis and was travelling with Stannis and his army,  why would RR waste time with that if he was just going to kill Stannis off so soon. Sure Stannis is probably gonna die in the next books but doubtful anything close to the show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 15, 2015, 09:29:36 pm
The quality definitely went down as they go past the books. The scene in the throne room in Mireen just felt totally forced. The storyline in Dorn just felt totally pointless, and is resolved in like an hour. It also felt kind of after-school-special-like. Also Sansa and Ramsay's storyline. They just build all these pointless plots up for no real pay off. Its starting to get this cheesey vibe.

Or maybe I'm just jaded these days.
Darkstar where are you. It's funny they gave his role to the sandsnakes.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 15, 2015, 09:48:26 pm
After the battle of Winterfell, was I the only one who got a really chilling feeling when the camera panned back over thousands of unburned corpses?

If the Boltons let those bodies sit, they are gonna have a much tougher battle next time...

Also, final score for season 5 - 6/10. Very rubbish compared to every other season, I don't even have much to look forwards to for season 7 now...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 15, 2015, 09:53:58 pm
My only fear is that GRRM will alter the story for the tv show because in the show they ve taken some steps that cant be undone .

Fuck sake, killing main characters might ve drawn my attention in season 1 , but it is slowly drafting into a brazilian drama show.

I hope GRRM is not ever consulting to D&D about the story
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 10:05:21 pm
I hope GRRM is not ever consulting to D&D about the story
... Why would he consult them about the story?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Beauchamp on June 15, 2015, 10:33:54 pm
why u care so much about snow? early on he was a pussy and he slowly developed into a cool character. any other character can go through the same process. jamie lannister was hated early on and slowly he's getting "cooler" as other characters do. sansa stark was a small useless whinny cunt, now she's developing into a cool chick. some good chars will die while others will emerge...

also tell me book readers why can those religious dickheads walk the queen naked through the city without anything happening to them. i didn't really get it from the show :)
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Post by: Torben on June 15, 2015, 10:39:50 pm
aw im perty sure snow will be revived by the redhaired hotty.  he is pretty much the only reason why any girl I know watches the show.

anyways,  highlight of this season was that wildlings vs zombies thang,  shit went really south from there.  and fuck those martell women.

except the little one ofc ^^
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2015, 10:56:53 pm
The quality definitely went down as they go past the books. The scene in the throne room in Mireen just felt totally forced. The storyline in Dorn just felt totally pointless, and is resolved in like an hour. It also felt kind of after-school-special-like. Also Sansa and Ramsay's storyline. They just build all these pointless plots up for no real pay off. Its starting to get this cheesey vibe.

Or maybe I'm just jaded these days.

Imagine this. Sansa and Theon on the run and trying to find a place to run away to. Ramsay finds Myranda dead and gathers a hunting party looking through the nearby dark, cold, forests filled with snow. ''D&D Presents The Ramsay Bolton Horror Experience ft Sansa Stark and Theon Greyjoy!''


Also back to the most hated cocksucker in the show 2nd only to Daenerys:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 15, 2015, 11:21:36 pm
My only fear is that GRRM will alter the story for the tv show because in the show they ve taken some steps that cant be undone

Ihave been living with this fear now since the Craster's Keep intermezzo in Season 4.

It also feels strange as a book reader to now get spoilered by the show. I mean, (smaller or bigger) details will surely differ but the overall way the story goes will surely be the same. I am currently thinking about not watching seasons 6 and 7 until the books will have been finished.

EDIT: It really makes me smile how people freak out because one of their favourite characters in a TV show gets killed or some or other stuff happening there. On FB I was in a German language GoT-group (mostly Stark and Dany fangirls) and people there went completely apeshit after S05E09.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 15, 2015, 11:24:33 pm
Also what crap they did with the dragons... It's so cool in the books that they act like mighty wild animals. Daenerys - the mother of Dragons, yeah cool, but how to control them, how to teach them anything? Drogon appears at the fighting pits because of the smell of blood and meat - not to fucking save her like in the show. Then the scene after that is just great in the book, daenerys, worn down, dead hungry, having diarrhea because of being forced eating chunks of burned but raw flesh and eating poisonous berries only gets Drogon again to hunt down that horse because he likes to eat as well. And then that final image, both feeding on the horse carcass while Khal Pogo (or whats his name) finds them. What was wrong with that for the show?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 11:26:44 pm
why u care so much about snow? early on he was a pussy and he slowly developed into a cool character. any other character can go through the same process. jamie lannister was hated early on and slowly he's getting "cooler" as other characters do. sansa stark was a small useless whinny cunt, now she's developing into a cool chick. some good chars will die while others will emerge...

also tell me book readers why can those religious dickheads walk the queen naked through the city without anything happening to them. i didn't really get it from the show :)
What are you talking about? Who hated Jaime Lannister early on? He has always been a great character, he just wasn't a nice guy. It sounds like you have some difficulties distinguishing characters from real life people. Jaime's just become more boring with the loss of his hand, he lost his swagger like Teeth said. Sansa hasn't developed anywhere and there's nothing she can do. And the reason people care about Jon Snow is that he was doing stuff, his story arc was interesting, he didn't just sit and talk about how he totes didn't do any incest.

Arya is about the only interesting character arc left in the books/show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 15, 2015, 11:28:11 pm
Drogon appears at the fighting pits because of the smell of blood and meat - not to fucking save her like in the show.

Some more D&D hate from me here. When they are not capable to write a good scene on their own, why not take the one from the books? Why in seven hells would they literally copy that STAR WARS scenario with the Clones? I found this really ridiculous.



Beauchamp: These religious dickheads can do this because they have the support or the population of King's Landing (around 500k people) who HATE the queen. Everything the crown has are the gold cloaks and a handful of Lannister Guards. Enough to do Police duties but nothing to withstand a rebellion.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 15, 2015, 11:30:31 pm
Also, yet more unexplained crap: how did Jorah, Daenerys' fuckboy (can't even remember his name) and Tyrion escape from the pits? They were surrounded by a crapton of enemies. But I guess everyone was just like "ehhhh, whatever, these guys killed our friends and are the trusted allies of the hated witch-Daenerys but would you look at the time" and left.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 12:12:20 am
Perhaps. But the creators of the show seem to favor Deus Ex Machina quite a bit more heavily, lately.

Predictions: Theon broke her fall and his mangled body is all smashed up and is finally at peace. Sansa reunites with Brienne.

Or. Theon takes Sansa to the Iron Islands, Sansa pregnant by Ramsay.

I don't think you get pregnant during butt secks. Unless Ramsay "raped" her more, off camera.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 12:44:44 am
Perhaps. But the creators of the show seem to favor Deus Ex Machina quite a bit more heavily, lately.

Predictions: Theon broke her fall and his mangled body is all smashed up and is finally at peace. Sansa reunites with Brienne.

Or. Theon takes Sansa to the Iron Islands, Sansa pregnant by Ramsay.

Holy shit LMFAO......Iron Islands? If it's true that the casting calls says that a pirate is being casted and he's Euron.......poor Sansa...from Joffrey to Littlefinger to Ramsay to Euron. Shit aint easy
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tagora on June 16, 2015, 01:33:11 am
--show spoilers ahead--

Fuck the finale.

I started this season as a diehard GoT fan and ended up wanting to get Thoros of Myr to resurrect someone.  Yeah, no.  Not Jon Snow.  Isn't Melissandre closer anyway?  I think Thoros of Myr should resurrect Maximilien Robespierre, a famous artist beyond even the lands of Asshair, critically acclaimed for his magnus opus, "The Terror".  Because fuck Westeros and fuck all of their Lords.  Robespierre would have it all cleaned up in a matter of days.  Seriously, though, fuck all of them.  At this point I'm just dreaming of different ways in which the remainder of the characters will die.  I legitimately hope the White Walkers destroy the entire continent (I changed my mind, fuck Robespierre, too).

Okay, enough of that shit.  Let me just say that the writing is what really killed it for me.  I don't care that the show is branching off in a major way from the books.  I told myself I didn't care, anyway, because I gave D&D the benefit of the doubt.  After all, the writing was pretty good up until S5 considering the scope of the plot and the inherent limitations of television.  Anyway, here it is.  Read it, or better yet, don't.  Save me the trouble of reliving all the shit moments in the finale.  Because if you read it you'll probably disagree and get just as petty as me and I'll just conjure up the sheer blunt force of fecal discharge that is Season 5 of Game of Thrones.

I've been lurking this thread and others in denial when people started to predict the anticlimactic rhythm of S5 but I persevered in loyal silence. And I really don't care about the recent deaths, in fact, I was pretty indifferent and had the major death at the end of the finale already spoiled for me.  But the entire episode felt like it was rushed in terms of dialogue and transitions, such as the transition from inside Mereen to the walls when Tyrion meets up with Varys again and the same old clichéd expressions come out and everything is so goddamn predictable.  If they're going to give them time in the finale why not give them some interesting dialogue?  Wouldn't they be at least a little interested in each other's adventures?  But no.  This is the fucking season finale and we have to hear Varys and Tyrion discuss all the shit we already know about Mereen and the realm and shit.  It's just a rehash of the same boring dialogue that they've had since S1 albeit slightly modified for the plot.  Then it sinks in you've wasted 10 boring minutes in Mereen again.  Then there was the whole Stannis part of the episode.  The way they "finished" up Stannis' story arc for the season still makes me cringe.  Yeah D&D, I wasn't going to tune into the premiere of S6 with the knowledge of what happened to Stannis.  Good thing you fixed that by taking advantage of the cheapest plot device in all of television and cutting a few milliseconds away from finishing his story arc.  I can see you fuckfaces grinning after that one.  gg

The redeeming part of the finale was Cersei's part (oh wow, a GoT episode starring Cersei that I actually enjoyed) and Jon's reunion with Benjen.  Sure the latter was a pretty clumsy nod to Wilhelm Schakespeire.  I mean, is it possible to have something more hokey than having men with northern accents reenact one of the most famous scenes in all of theatre?  Specifically that scene?  That shit was painful but I suppose the majority of the audience wouldn't care, let alone even realize that GRRM is obsessive about Shakespeare and refers to him at least over 9000 times.  But I was suddenly set at ease knowing that Jon Snow wasn't going to be fucking prancing around Castle Black anymore considering he's just some fucked up synthesis of the neoliberal "chosen one" that is the basis for the cult of Harry Potter, Jesus Christ, or Gandhi.  Fuck Jon Snow.  And I think literally anyone would agree Cersei's part was the best.  Guys got boobs (bonus Cersei is a bitch and gets humiliated) and girls got the pure simple pleasure of watching Cersei get owned.

I'm done.  Fuck this show.  See you next April.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 16, 2015, 01:59:22 am
When I saw them bring Wun Weg Wun Dar Wun the giant back from Hardholme I had some hopes that they would make Jons stabbing as interesting as it was in the books but noooooo.
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I am glad they are keeping Samwell Tubby's citadel story arc but the show makes it look like he was trying to get away from the nights watch, made it sound a bit like he was begging Jon to send him but it was Jon's idea to send him there to get master training, Sam didn't want to leave. Why would they need to change something as simple as that?
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tagora on June 16, 2015, 02:01:16 am

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uhh, you're not posting book spoilers are you?  Or did I miss something in the show?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 16, 2015, 02:04:38 am
uhh, you're not posting book spoilers are you?  Or did I miss something in the show?
Well the last bit about the master with the dragonglass candle is, but I didn't really touch on any circumstances, sry put it in spoilers if you want. The Sam begging to leave though isn't a book spoiler as he didn't it was Jons idea not Sams. Well it shouldn't be one anyhow, the idoit show writers didn't really need to change that part at all.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 16, 2015, 02:12:20 am
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Considering the leaked Season 6 role descriptions, I doubt he will meet that guy, instead he's likely to meet someone else, whom he already knows and fears...

EDIT: I was wondering something else when I saw Jamie leaving Dorne in S05E10...

With Jamie returning from Dorne and Brienne (probably) returning from the North (I do not think that Theon/Sansa will travel to Pyke, Theon will prly die and Sansa join up with the mad Renly fangirl), is it possible that we will see a continued Riverlands storyline in S06? With all those players like Brynden Tully, Waldie Frey and the BwB?

Or how else could Jamie's arc develop? I hated him in S01 and most part of S02 but I really grew fond of him. Myrcellas assasination will surely have consequences, too, but I cannot imagine Jamie leading an army into Dorne...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 16, 2015, 04:39:50 am
One of the things that I didn't really like is that all the deaths this last episode were done in very a un-GoT way, in that they lacked finality. For instance, when Ned died, we saw his head roll and then put on a spike in the next episode, or when Catelyn and Rob died, we saw her throat slit, we saw Rob's corpse paraded around. But in this season finale, where we would have to wait another year for any confirmation, almost all of the deaths that occurred could be disputed. Stannis, about to be decapitated before the classic cut-away-before-the-blow-lands tactic was used. Myrcella, being instantly "killed" by a poison that is notorious for being slow-acting and painful... makes sense, right? I mean, she came into contact with it by being kissed by someone else who had put it on her lips who-knows-how-long beforehand. They didn't sail too far away just yet, no doubt Bronn could see what's up and say "Hey, that almost happened to me, we need to find them sand ladies asap for the antidote!" at which point they turn the boat around, and we have more lovely Dorne shenanigans to look forwards to. Oh boy. Then of course Jon getting ganked was pretty straightforward, had it not been for a priestess of a faith notorious for resurrecting people arriving (for no apparent reason, mind you) only a little bit beforehand. Sure, the actor denies returning to GoT for season 6, and assuming he is indeed off the show for good, it doesn't mean that "Jon Snow" is dead... mayhaps he is resurrected and looks significantly different for some reason. Also, remember they were talking a lot about how he wouldn't be a regular for season 6 (as the leaked salary papers confirming his return said he would be), so maybe he will still show up and guest star for an episode or two near the end as one of the final shocker moments of season 6... only to then once more be a full-time cast member come season 7, or just have a very small part and never be a full-fledged credits-roll actor anymore. All in all this just leads to less of the GoT-patented shock value that they seem to strive so hard for, and more "really? I need to wait another year to know what actually happens?"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 16, 2015, 07:21:12 am
Well, they might not be dead after all, I mean they showed how Meryn fucking Trant died but we didnt even see Stannis getting his head chopped off.Or we have seen how Joffrey died with poison but Myrcella only got her nose bleeding( I also would like to point out that Trystane Martell is on board with em)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 16, 2015, 08:02:17 am
Well, they might not be dead after all, I mean they showed how Meryn fucking Trant died but we didnt even see Stannis getting his head chopped off.Or we have seen how Joffrey died with poison but Myrcella only got her nose bleeding( I also would like to point out that Trystane Martell is on board with em)

Haha to be honest I forgot Meryn Trant died. I mean, he wasn't really that major a player to care much about, other than having that "yeah, go arya" moment. No big loss really. Also I don't think Trystane would be of much help as only the sand snakes and their mom have that poison, supposedly. If anything, should they immediately turn tail and sail back to Dorne he will be a witness to plead Jaime's case.

Also, what did you guys think of the Robert Strong reveal? That face, though.  :lol:

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Post by: Molly on June 16, 2015, 09:56:47 am
Just watched it... kinda baffled... I mean... dafuq...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 16, 2015, 10:00:41 am
Robert Strong

I thought that dude was the revived mountain?  (I have no Idea what is going on,  never read the books was late to start watching the series)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Lars on June 16, 2015, 10:17:45 am
So, after that little prick Ramsay (who never fought in a war before) was able to infiltrate the camp of Stannis Baratheon's army (one of the most skilled commanders in Westeros) with "20 good men" (must have been a mix of Chuck Norris, Vlad Pootin and the Avengers), setting half of the tents and all of the siege equipment afire SIMULTANEOUSLY, now Stannis gets ALL his horses stolen by a bunch of sellswords in the night UNOPPOSED.

The most  reasonable explanation is that Ramsay, and his 20 good men, took off on hang gliders from the hills/mountains near Stannis's encampment, then they  flew over the camp and dropped fire arrows/bombs on the tents  :lol: 
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 16, 2015, 10:20:57 am
I thought that dude was the revived mountain?  (I have no Idea what is going on,  never read the books was late to start watching the series)

Right, he is. Robert Strong is merely the name of the revived mountain in the books. Basically, you don't go parading around a known-dead guy and expect people to be okay with it. Also, it is "unconfirmed" that he is indeed the mountain, but it is all but spelled out that they are indeed one and the same.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Franke on June 16, 2015, 12:15:05 pm
The most  reasonable explanation is that Ramsay, and his 20 good men, took off on hang gliders from the hills/mountains near Stannis's encampment, then they  flew over the camp and dropped fire arrows/bombs on the tents  :lol: 
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Haha, before opening your spoiler, I thought that you may have been talking about this:


I were in that battle on the defending side and I can assure you that you don't need 20 GOOD men to accomplish this  :wink:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 16, 2015, 05:22:33 pm
Just read a theory about:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Siiem on June 16, 2015, 10:17:59 pm
Still wating for this. Let's hope they deliver on season 6.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2015, 03:22:44 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 18, 2015, 06:19:21 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2015, 10:04:47 am
http://watchersonthewall.com/more-casting-info-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/

More casting calls...btw wtf....


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Legendary Fighter:  A man in his thirties or forties who is a great swordsman and a paragon of knighthood. He carries a famous sword.  The show is seeking a very impressive swordsman for the role- the best in Europe, for a week of filming fight scenes for a season 6 role. His ethnicity/race isn’t specified, unlike many other roles.

Arthur fucking Dayne? Brb epic flashbacks...brb dying...brb Tower of Joy
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: ARN_ on June 20, 2015, 01:54:34 pm
http://watchersonthewall.com/more-casting-info-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/

More casting calls...btw wtf....


Arthur fucking Dayne? Brb epic flashbacks...brb dying...brb Tower of Joy
A man can hope
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 20, 2015, 09:41:30 pm
There probably will be a prequel movie to the series about roberts rebellion and all, at least that was what i ve been told some while ago.Maybe that guy is in the cast for that lol
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 21, 2015, 10:23:27 am

This is how it should've gone down.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on June 21, 2015, 08:04:03 pm
Let me guess Berenger: you already own one of these ?


http://www.sunfrogshirts.com/House-Baratheon.html?47345
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 21, 2015, 08:44:16 pm
Let me guess Berenger: you already own one of these ?


http://www.sunfrogshirts.com/House-Baratheon.html?47345

Lol i did see those being advertised. Tbh they don't look that bad.

Also...

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Beauchamp on June 24, 2015, 04:13:02 pm
https://youtu.be/Q6rxiYLV1AI?t=154 :D :D :D
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 24, 2015, 04:36:46 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 24, 2015, 04:43:56 pm
How to be happy again and start praising the last episode instead:

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 24, 2015, 04:50:49 pm
Nah, killing Jon was okay for a big finale.
Most likely Mrs. Firepriestess is going to bring him back with some funny consequences and shit...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 24, 2015, 06:12:50 pm
If she doesn't u owe me 4 bratwursts
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 24, 2015, 09:10:34 pm
Nah, killing Jon was okay for a big finale.
Most likely Mrs. Firepriestess is going to bring him back with some funny consequences and shit...

Or Jon is going to warg into ghost and romp around castle black waiting for a chance to bite olly's ass.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on June 25, 2015, 10:17:59 pm
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Nah, killing Jon was okay for a big finale.
Most likely Mrs. Firepriestess is going to bring him back with some funny consequences and shit...

Oh boy...

http://www.inquisitr.com/2198826/game-of-thrones-director-jon-snow-is-definitely-dead-plus-who-will-be-on-the-thrones-comic-con-2015-panel/
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Post by: Macropus on June 26, 2015, 04:52:39 am
Oh boy...

http://www.inquisitr.com/2198826/game-of-thrones-director-jon-snow-is-definitely-dead-plus-who-will-be-on-the-thrones-comic-con-2015-panel/

Kinda makes me think the character will get back. I mean, if he was dead for sure, they would probably say something like "Oh well, maybe he's dead, maybe he's not, we will see".
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 26, 2015, 04:56:31 am
Oh boy...

http://www.inquisitr.com/2198826/game-of-thrones-director-jon-snow-is-definitely-dead-plus-who-will-be-on-the-thrones-comic-con-2015-panel/

They said Jon/kit harington is gone for good.... Not ghost  :D

Jons spirit shall live on! (I hope).
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 26, 2015, 06:58:37 am
“I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead… I keep hearing that phrase in my head, ‘Ding dong, the witch is dead.’ After what you saw there, I think there’s no more clear picture whether he is dead or not.”

Yes, he IS dead. And if Melisandre resurrects him next season, then he will no longer be dead and what the director said will still have been accurate.
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Post by: Molly on June 26, 2015, 09:02:21 am
“I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead… I keep hearing that phrase in my head, ‘Ding dong, the witch is dead.’ After what you saw there, I think there’s no more clear picture whether he is dead or not.”

Yes, he IS dead. And if Melisandre resurrects him next season, then he will no longer be dead and what the director said will still have been accurate.
Yea, thought about that too.
He only states the obvious fact. Would be different if he had said something like "He's dead and he's gonna stay that way.".
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on June 26, 2015, 02:09:11 pm
Yea, thought about that too.
He only states the obvious fact. Would be different if he had said something like "He's dead and he's gonna stay that way.".

Even then you could still argue that he would be undead. Undead still counts as being dead by most definitions, they act like being alive but factual (in fiction :P) they are dead.
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Post by: Molly on June 26, 2015, 04:37:18 pm
Now it starts to become complicated ^^
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Post by: Asheram on June 26, 2015, 09:19:32 pm
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So why did you kill Jon Snow?
GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he’s dead, do you?
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Post by: Doom_Carrot on June 26, 2015, 10:00:18 pm
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So why did you kill Jon Snow?
GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he’s dead, do you?

GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: you're damn right. I love killing good characters.
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Post by: Jona on June 27, 2015, 12:34:24 am
Jon kind of has to be alive in some way or another. Without him there are no characters to continue the story in the north. I mean, who would we start to follow in his place to learn about the white walkers' invasion and such? Would Tormund suddenly become a POV character? Thorne? Not even Sam is at the wall anymore, and I'm sure they aren't going to continue Jon's story using a bunch of second-rate characters like Melisandre and a few named brothers of the watch.
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Post by: Siiem on June 27, 2015, 12:39:47 am
Jon kind of has to be alive in some way or another. Without him there are no characters to continue the story in the north. I mean, who would we start to follow in his place to learn about the white walkers' invasion and such? Would Tormund suddenly become a POV character? Thorne? Not even Sam is at the wall anymore, and I'm sure they aren't going to continue Jon's story using a bunch of second-rate characters like Melisandre and a few named brothers of the watch.

Gared Tuttle? :lol:
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Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2015, 12:55:22 am
Dolorous Edd pov. If there's one character portrayal in the show that has disapointed me it is this one.
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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2015, 03:57:54 am
Jon kind of has to be alive in some way or another. Without him there are no characters to continue the story in the north. I mean, who would we start to follow in his place to learn about the white walkers' invasion and such? Would Tormund suddenly become a POV character? Thorne? Not even Sam is at the wall anymore, and I'm sure they aren't going to continue Jon's story using a bunch of second-rate characters like Melisandre and a few named brothers of the watch.
Well they haven't killed off Rickon Stark yet maybe he ages a bit and comes to save the north.  :P


Dolorous Edd pov. If there's one character portrayal in the show that has disapointed me it is this one.
Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane.
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Post by: ARN_ on June 27, 2015, 02:16:00 pm
Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane's member*
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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2015, 09:41:36 pm
I was disappointed with Tormunds Giant member*

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Post by: Talanarsis on June 27, 2015, 10:12:42 pm
Lol i did see those being advertised. Tbh they don't look that bad.

Also...

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Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2015, 01:00:41 pm
Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane.
What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 28, 2015, 01:47:06 pm
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Post by: Asheram on July 01, 2015, 12:52:02 am
What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.
The books painted him as good natured, jovial and boisterous. The show just makes him look mad, angry and scary.

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Post by: LordBerenger on July 05, 2015, 09:00:16 pm
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Post by: Falka on August 02, 2015, 03:38:40 am
Cersei's parts of books are so annyoing. And really poorly written.
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Post by: LordBerenger on August 02, 2015, 04:19:19 pm
Best GoT video ever srs.

Watch it
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Post by: Smoothrich on August 05, 2015, 10:22:35 am
What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.

Like most characters, he's way more interesting in the books. The show cuts out 90 percent of the history, dialogue, stories, jokes, etc that add depth and personality to everyone, especially the less important characters who don't get much to do in the show, but eventually get like hundreds of pages in the books.

Tormund has like 100 different jokes about how big his dick is that he forces into every conversation. He's really funny brave and down to earth, and reading the books you understand why Jon Snow and the Wildlings can't help but love and respect the guy. He seems to be as big of a deal to Jon Snow overcoming prejudice against the Wildlings as his dead girlfriend was, but I don't think the show gets this point across very well.
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Post by: Falka on November 23, 2015, 11:16:48 pm
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Now that's official; he's alive. Or at least not entirely dead.
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Post by: Asheram on November 24, 2015, 12:38:37 am
Best GoT video ever srs.

Watch it
lol @ the Woody Harrelson/True Detective scene  :P :D
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Post by: Smoothrich on November 26, 2015, 10:19:14 am
Samwell Tarly is gonna be the Philosopher King of Middle Earth at the end of a Song of Ice and Fire when he invents a WMD using long lost Valyrian chocolate chip cookie Dragon Science and nukes The Lands Of Always Winter into dragonglass, but then gives the surviving White Walkers equal rights of citizenship in the now democratic United States Of Westeros united with Dragons and White Walkers and Sorcery to go fuck up The Evil Essos Empire led by the Mad Mongololian Tzar Communist Daenerys oppressing the independent city-states lol
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Post by: Knute on March 09, 2016, 04:43:46 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on March 09, 2016, 12:52:42 pm

Pls dont cut off Jon's head. He will lose 80% of his fanbase without his amazing hair and face.
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Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 10, 2016, 03:37:11 pm
I like how the the thread title still says "no book spoilers"  :D
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Post by: Asheram on March 31, 2016, 03:04:05 am
Damn Drogons getting huge.
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Post by: Guray on May 02, 2016, 04:02:58 am
holy shit

that episode...
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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 02, 2016, 04:46:00 am
holy shit

that episode...

erperserde twe omergherdz

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Only thing holding me back from blurting spoilers is a perma ban. <3 <3 <3
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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 02, 2016, 04:52:55 am
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Only thing holding me back from blurting spoilers is a perma ban. <3 <3 <3

Technically this thread is no "book" spoilers. And since the show is past the books you aren't spoiling.  :wink:
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Post by: Xant on May 02, 2016, 10:47:11 am
That whole Melisandre thing was extended for too long, for "suspension", when it was obvious Jon was going to come back alive. So it was pretty pointless to go with the good ol' "let me try this magick.. no.. it doesnt work :((... wait...... it does!!!!!" shtick.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 02, 2016, 12:50:12 pm
Yeah they dragged it out a bit.

Happy they haven't gone for more episodes with him dead though. That and they have pulled the whole beggar girl Arya thing so I'm happy with the pacing.

O and Tyrion got baaaalls.
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Post by: Vibe on May 02, 2016, 01:33:05 pm
Wondering if there's any drawbacks to being resurrected like that
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Post by: Xant on May 02, 2016, 02:13:08 pm
Wondering if there's any drawbacks to being resurrected like that
One of the worst things at the moment is that neither the book nor the show have really explained how all that shit works. Being able to raise the dead is one of the most powerful things ever, and when for all appearances it looks like there's no drawback and you can even raise the same guy back 5+ times... shit becomes pretty weird. And it lessens the effect of death. I was hoping Melisandre would die from the effort, or she'd permanently revert back to the old woman creature, or... you know... something. There needs to be some obvious drawback to it, either to the recipient or the caster, otherwise it raises some questions like... why isn't she doing it more?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MacX85 on May 02, 2016, 02:19:31 pm
Technically this thread is no "book" spoilers. And since the show is past the books you aren't spoiling.  :wink:

It's not with the Greyjoy storyline at least.
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Post by: Algarn on May 02, 2016, 02:36:16 pm
Ramsay Bolton is still a sicko that has to be killed. Martin pls.
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Post by: Knute on May 02, 2016, 02:58:32 pm
One of the worst things at the moment is that neither the book nor the show have really explained how all that shit works. Being able to raise the dead is one of the most powerful things ever, and when for all appearances it looks like there's no drawback and you can even raise the same guy back 5+ times... shit becomes pretty weird. And it lessens the effect of death. I was hoping Melisandre would die from the effort, or she'd permanently revert back to the old woman creature, or... you know... something. There needs to be some obvious drawback to it, either to the recipient or the caster, otherwise it raises some questions like... why isn't she doing it more?

They did mention some of the side effects in Season 3, this is from the show wiki on Beric Dondarian:

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Later, Beric reminisces on the times he has been killed with Thoros and Arya. Arya briefly asks if Thoros can revive a man with no head, clearly referring to her father, but Beric merely compliments Eddard's honourable nature and tells her of the side effect of his resurrection: with each revival, he loses some of his memories and is less himself, a life he would not wish on Eddard.
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Post by: Xant on May 02, 2016, 03:02:06 pm
Well, yeah, but, you know... that's so insignificant it's barely worth mentioning. I mean, Beric says "with each revival." Dude's been killed many times, and he loses "some" of his memories each time. "Yeah, dying's such a hassle: died five times so far, and boy does it suck, I lose some of my memories each time!" It sounds like a bad drunken weekend.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 02, 2016, 03:15:46 pm
Wondering if there's any drawbacks to being resurrected like that

I was going through my old messages the other day, just for the hell of it, and I came across this:

" Sent to: Tom Cruise on: February 25, 2014, 10:49:25 pm »
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WELL IT SHOULDN'T BE BECAUSE IT'S A FUCKING GAY HERO"






Why you yell at me?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 02, 2016, 03:30:22 pm
Given the way magic works in the book series, it's all based on sacrificing one thing or another. Blood, human sacrifice, etc. For Dondarion it's clearly more than just memory. It's almost as if his "soul" is dimned every time he gets resurected, and it's implied there is a limit to how many times it can happen. In the books Dondarion is finally killed off completely when he resurects...someone (spoilers) the same way Thoros resurects him. Melisandre's thing is similar, always has to drain or use someone else's...lifepower, for lack of a better word, for her biggest magics. There's a saying mentioned more than once in the books about magic being like a sword without a handle.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 02, 2016, 04:20:15 pm
Hopefully it's her 'life power' seeing as she's an old hag anyway.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on May 02, 2016, 05:30:36 pm
3 moments for me:

wow
WOW
was to be expected
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Post by: Overdriven on May 02, 2016, 11:10:28 pm
No need for spoiler tags on this discussion ffs. Anyone here knows their shit by now.

Anyway the only way I can see it going is if they bring a new character who 'knows' stuff. Either that or maybe, I suspect, Varys will hold the answer to Jon's lineage. That or Bran will get a sneak peak.

My theory now is that once Danny comes back to the 7 kingdoms with her Dragon's Jon is going to become one of the Dragon rides and they will sweep the walkers away with that and some nifty magic stuff from Bran.

But we will see.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 02, 2016, 11:13:38 pm
No need for spoiler tags on this discussion ffs. Anyone here knows their shit by now.

Anyway the only way I can see it going is if they bring a new character who 'knows' stuff. Either that or maybe, I suspect, Varys will hold the answer to Jon's lineage. Either than or Bran will get a sneak peak.

My theory now is that once Danny comes back to the 7 kingdoms with her Dragon's Jon is going to become one of the Dragon rides and they will sweep the walkers away with that and some nifty magic stuff from Bran.

But we will see.

I just wanna see Daenerys die though. Sacrifice Jon, Arya and Stannis + Young Griff just to see that bitch die.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 02, 2016, 11:15:53 pm
I just wanna see Daenerys die though. Sacrifice Jon, Arya and Stannis + Young Griff just to see that bitch die.

She is damn annoying. But alas I doubt that's ever going to happen!
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Post by: saccizord on May 02, 2016, 11:54:02 pm
The rez was kinda awkward but Euron (finally) killing Balon was freaking great! Plus Tyrion talking with the dragons (I thought he was going to go full Quentyn there). It did strenghten the theory of Tyrion being a Targ...

The Bran storyline will be so good in this season. In episode 2 we finally met Lyanna, and in the next one we'll have Tower of Joy :D

Episode 3 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y685gVGRQ98
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Post by: MacX85 on May 03, 2016, 08:03:39 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0

EEEEEEPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 03, 2016, 09:24:11 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0

EEEEEEPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!

Atleast Tolkien doesn't kill everyone of his characters and makes some questionable decisions.

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Post by: Xant on May 03, 2016, 10:39:36 am

Episode 3 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y685gVGRQ98
Who is/are those people at 0:26?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leesin on May 03, 2016, 10:41:23 am
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Vibe on May 03, 2016, 10:49:22 am
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.

should've just spooked him alive with nice tits to granny tits transform
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on May 03, 2016, 10:59:51 am
Isn't Jon kinda rezzed by the fire tho. She being Priestess of God of Light or Fire or whatnot, seeing the future in flames and shit.
And Bolton attacking Castle Black next? Dafuq... Would have been silly and pointless to kill off his father denying going for that attack otherwise.
Wildlings, rezzed Jon, rest of the Nightwatch defending Castle Black against Ice demon scum on one side of the wall and silly Bolton standing at the gates?
Big ass 2 sided battle at the end of the season, Bolton being ripped apart by Icy Demon or Jon and Bolton sticking together against common thread, postponing the conforntation?

So much shit for assumptions :D


Just the thought that our beloved Dwarf might ride a dragon at some point is hilarious.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MacX85 on May 03, 2016, 11:02:55 am
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.

Well, tbf Thoros of Myrr had no idea either... he just got down on his knees and prayed to the lord of light and he granted his wish.
I would like to know what exactly Melissandre said. Was it a prayer at all or something like dark magic? It had a pretty dark vibe, I though.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 03, 2016, 11:46:17 am
Would have been silly and pointless to kill off his father denying going for that attack otherwise.

Killing his father and brother made perfect sense. It's about the only sensible decision he's made. He knew Bolton was never going to let him truly be heir. He's too fucked up and would make a mess of things. Bolton would likely have strung him along for a while then banished/killed him once his new son came of age. So for Ramsey killing them was actually one of the few things he's done not out of sheer fuckedupness.

The watch is pretty much no more. At least of the old style. I imagine the wildlings will stay for a while and will end up fighting for Jon wherever he wants to go. Perhaps now he has 'died' they will see it as him being cleared of his oath to the watch but who knows. I think once Sansa rocks up at Castle Black it'll be Jon and the wildlings stomping Ramsey.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 03, 2016, 12:57:47 pm
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.
Yeah, makes it even cheaper. "I don't have the gift of resurrecting the dead... well, let me try- woops, it worked, that's nice."

I mean, I'm sure GRRM has some sensible rules for all that shit, but they really need to point them out, because right now it looks like raising people from the dead is no big deal, you can do it half by accident if you've seen a guy do it once.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 03, 2016, 01:29:36 pm

Wtf just noticed at 0:27 Arthur Dayne doesn't seem to have Dawn sword.
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Post by: Jona on May 03, 2016, 03:51:53 pm

Wtf just noticed at 0:27 Arthur Dayne doesn't seem to have Dawn sword.

Yeah, but even, better... he has two regular swords! Cuz dual wielding is so kewl. xD xD
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 03, 2016, 04:43:43 pm
Yeah, but even, better... he has two regular swords! Cuz dual wielding is so kewl. xD xD

xDDDDD dual wielding swords is so cool. Medieval noscope xD
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Post by: Xant on May 03, 2016, 04:59:43 pm
Dual wielding > Solo wielding

<--- Proof
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Post by: Asheram on May 03, 2016, 08:52:51 pm
I don't get why that Karstark guy let Ramsey get away with murdering Roose. He hated the Starks for Robb killing his father and even said as much in the scene. I would have thought he would have had a bit more loyalty to Roose seeing as it was he who killed Robb. Also Ramsey's legitimacy came through Roose who he shanked, so this Karstark must be stupid if he thinks the same won't happen to him if he crosses Ramsey now that he has all the Bolton power.
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 03, 2016, 09:18:37 pm
I don't get why that Karstark guy let Ramsey get away with murdering Roose. He hated the Starks for Robb killing his father and even said as much in the scene. I would have thought he would have had a bit more loyalty to Roose seeing as it was he who killed Robb. Also Ramsey's legitimacy came through Roose who he shanked, so this Karstark must be stupid if he thinks the same won't happen to him if he crosses Ramsey now that he has all the Bolton power.

Probably why he didn't say anything and acted loyal at that point. What was to stop Ramsey from just stabbing him too?
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Post by: Asheram on May 03, 2016, 09:21:47 pm
Probably why he didn't say anything and acted loyal at that point. What was to stop Ramsey from just stabbing him too?
Him stabbing Ramsey first, he had the maester there to witness for him.
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Post by: Tagora on May 04, 2016, 05:03:00 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 04, 2016, 06:10:39 pm
I feel the show would be so much better when Ramsay, Daenerys and Brienne dies.
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Post by: MacX85 on May 04, 2016, 06:21:59 pm
Don't you touch my boy Ramsay!
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Post by: karasu on May 04, 2016, 06:43:46 pm
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The littlefinger part is kinda silly, since he probably didn't care about sansa's mental health, he'd rather get in the good side of the boltons and later say to sansa: "I'm sorry dove, I had no idea they were this twisted". A win/win.

Also the Mannis part, his troops were routed, unfed, ill, and inexperienced with fighting in the snow. A no-brainer.

The Karstarks will probably backstab them Boltons anyway.
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Post by: Leesin on May 04, 2016, 06:58:56 pm
should've just spooked him alive with nice tits to granny tits transform

 :lol:, she has a banging body, I imagined sucking on those bad boys, closing my eyes enjoying the moment, then to have a sudden taste of dust and cobwebs in my mouth, then opening my eyes to see the flapjack titted granny looking down at me on her tit.

Yeah, makes it even cheaper. "I don't have the gift of resurrecting the dead... well, let me try- woops, it worked, that's nice."

I mean, I'm sure GRRM has some sensible rules for all that shit, but they really need to point them out, because right now it looks like raising people from the dead is no big deal, you can do it half by accident if you've seen a guy do it once.

Yeah, it just seemed really out of place, it would have been acceptable for me if she had any confidence or knowledge in at least being able to try bring him back. Even if she wasn't 100% sure it would work, I am pretty sure we all expected it would most likely be her who saves Jon, there was no need to downplay it, we all knew there was no way Jon was going to stay dead either.

 I can get over it, but it's sad I have another notch on my bad writing bedpost, most of my previous ones were from Daenerys's story line last season which I thought was a load of dog shit, I used to like her but now she just annoys me and I'd probably be glad to see her die.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Guray on May 04, 2016, 07:59:41 pm
any of you see this on leddit (/r/asoiaf):

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To be honest Ramsay has been my fav character in the show and he still is.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Malaclypse on May 04, 2016, 08:46:03 pm
Yeah, it just seemed really out of place, it would have been acceptable for me if she had any confidence or knowledge in at least being able to try bring him back. Even if she wasn't 100% sure it would work, I am pretty sure we all expected it would most likely be her who saves Jon, there was no need to downplay it, we all knew there was no way Jon was going to stay dead either.

 I can get over it, but it's sad I have another notch on my bad writing bedpost, most of my previous ones were from Daenerys's story line last season which I thought was a load of dog shit, I used to like her but now she just annoys me and I'd probably be glad to see her die.

The way I interpreted it, not sure if it makes it any better, is that while she said the correct words (in a different language from Thoros ofc), she didn't have the intent of heart to bring John back- it was Ghost's intent merged with her words that did so.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 04, 2016, 09:59:55 pm
Don't you touch my boy Ramsay!

Plot Shieldsay
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 04, 2016, 10:35:02 pm
The way I interpreted it, not sure if it makes it any better, is that while she said the correct words (in a different language from Thoros ofc), she didn't have the intent of heart to bring John back- it was Ghost's intent merged with her words that did so.
Where did you get that Ghost thing...? As far as I remember, there was nothing indicating Ghost had anything to do with it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on May 04, 2016, 10:49:42 pm
So you guys are still watching this.. this thing?

Let me guess what happened since second season - a bunch of people died, still no plot, story is going nowhere. No dragon action, but they still make it look like dragons will come.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 04, 2016, 11:03:22 pm
So you guys are still watching this.. this thing?

Let me guess what happened since second season - a bunch of people died, still no plot, story is going nowhere. No dragon action, but they still make it look like dragons will come.
dragons came in like season 1 fam lmao
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on May 04, 2016, 11:08:17 pm
dragons came in like season 1 fam lmao

Really?.. There were a couple of eggs in the first and they were cat sized in a single 10 second long scene in the second.

Edit:

Anyways, if there is finally some dragon carnage in the new season, I will have a look :)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 04, 2016, 11:16:18 pm
Really?.. There were a couple of eggs in the first and they were cat sized in a single 10 second long scene in the second.

Edit:

Anyways, if there is finally some dragon carnage in the new season, I will have a look :)
yeah when they got big drogon took off  and the other 2 were locked in a basement. Then last season Drogon came and rescued danearis in the fighting pit.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Molly on May 05, 2016, 08:56:48 am
Where did you get that Ghost thing...? As far as I remember, there was nothing indicating Ghost had anything to do with it.
He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...
...just going by the cinematography, I can understand where the idea is coming from.
And since it's no ordinary wolf...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 05, 2016, 08:58:26 am
He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...
...just going by the cinematography, I can understand where the idea is coming from.
And since it's no ordinary wolf...
it was focusing on the dog so they could show the dog reacting to him waking up fam
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Post by: Molly on May 05, 2016, 09:02:13 am
I am not arguing pro or con the idea here. Merely giving Xant a hint where the idea might be coming from.
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Post by: Xant on May 05, 2016, 10:24:35 am
But that was because of what Tristan says, to give the viewers a two-second "oh my god could it be" reaction before Jon gasps. The cinematography does not support the theory at all. Ghost was sleeping, not staring intently at Jon's corpse, willing it to rise from the dead, etc.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2016, 01:02:35 pm
He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...
...just going by the cinematography, I can understand where the idea is coming from.
And since it's no ordinary wolf...

That was purely for the moment when Ghost senses Jon coming back to life I think. Nothing to do with Ghost being involved with the resurrection.

Edit: Or what Xant and Tristan just said.

Should probably read later posts first!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on May 05, 2016, 03:50:33 pm
My take on it was that she was saying the prayer in whatever language over and over to no avail because she was doing it without emotion or believing or w.e. Then she simply says "please" and the great and mighty lord of light is all like "Well, since you said the magic word, sure!" and that was that. No dogs involved.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 05, 2016, 03:51:22 pm
Pretty sure Jon Snow was never dead, he was just resting.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 05, 2016, 04:27:22 pm
He seemed to still have his wounds. Probably undead rather than back to life, more like Coldhands than Dondarion. Maybe it has something to do with the Wall itself?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 05, 2016, 04:28:34 pm
So Jon isn't connected to ghost like Bran was to his wolf?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 05, 2016, 04:31:47 pm
It's kind of hard to direct animals. I don't expect showrunners to really try and portray the connection shown in the books, unless they use CGI extensively. Slightly startling a sleeping dog and filming the reaction is the best we can hope for.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 05, 2016, 05:20:34 pm
At least in the books he is supposed to be connected to Ghost. All the Stark kids are but Bran is the only one who has 'realised' the potential as such.

If I remember rightly both Arya and Jon still have dreams that they are a wolf but that's the extent of it and you hear rumours of a large wolf roaming Westoros leading wolf packs, which I guess is supposed to be Arya's as she released hers to stop it being killed after the Joffrey attack.

Been a while since I read them though.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 05, 2016, 08:58:38 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 05, 2016, 11:04:08 pm
Each wolf is one of the Starks Jon=Ghost, Arya=Nymeria etc.

After each time a significant thing has happened to one of the Starks then the same thing has happened to the Wolf.

Rob's died and was beheaded in the same manner that he was, but it died after Rob did.

Arya's was sent away by her, but reflects her identity. She has been lost and has never really belonged as a Stark, shes known this for a long time yet it became apparent when she was on the Kings' Road on the way to Kings Landing. She didn't want to be a lady nor to marry into a wealthy house. She wanted to be her own person and her fleeing to Bravos is not only to lose herself but to find who she truly is. Nymeria is the same aspect. The wolf reflects Arya's inner detachment by being quite simply a 'lone wolf' and the fact Nymeria roams Westeros as the head of numerous packs shows that she also does not know quite yet where she belongs (pretty hard to put in the film tho).

Bran's is an extension of himself. It helps him eat, gives him security and warmth, protects him. (Canny remember the name of Bran's). But it does all the things that Bran cannot yet allowing Bran to do those things that he is no longer able to.

Sansa and Lady to me are the easiest to think of. Lady was killed on the day that Sansa betrayed her family by not sticking by her Sister, her flesh and blood, and so in turn Sansa betrayed her family which led to the death of her 'ties' and thus meaning that she, at that point, was no longer a Stark.

Jon's never died after his death therefore to me I surmised that Jon wasn't actually dead. I wasn't sure how he would return but i was sure that he was due to the fact that each wolf is an extension of themselves. If the person dies, or does something against their family, then the wolf dies with them.

I've explained my 'theory' or personal preference in a really bad way, pretty whacked so I might try and explain it with more clarity tomorrow.



Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 05, 2016, 11:12:07 pm
How about Rickons wolf?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on May 05, 2016, 11:15:16 pm
How about Rickons wolf?

Rickon is useless, so as his wolf kekek
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 05, 2016, 11:29:25 pm
Rickon is useless, so as his wolf kekek
His wolf seemed pretty scary and badass down in that crypt, all wild.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 06, 2016, 12:14:32 am
Rickon is the future king in the north. He'll kill all White Walkers and Boltons while riding on his unicorn and in the back he got a nasty cannibal army from Skagos helping him.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 06, 2016, 04:13:38 am
You don't know much about rickon or shaggy dog, except rickon is meant to be a toddler/ very young kid, so until his personality/mind ages and evolves then his wolf won't either. The very name shaggy dog comes across as a childish name, but I wouldn't be surprised I he rerun in this season
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 06, 2016, 08:19:57 am
You don't know much about rickon or shaggy dog, except rickon is meant to be a toddler/ very young kid, so until his personality/mind ages and evolves then his wolf won't either. The very name shaggy dog comes across as a childish name, but I wouldn't be surprised I he rerun in this season

I hope he doesn't come back this season because if so then it means Plot Armored villain of doom a.ka Ramsay will probably be involved with him somehow.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on May 06, 2016, 10:18:26 am
He seemed to still have his wounds. Probably undead rather than back to life, more like Coldhands than Dondarion. Maybe it has something to do with the Wall itself?

Dondarion also had all his death wounds, in the books Lady Stoneheart had her throat cut open, so she couldn't speak properly.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Guray on May 07, 2016, 02:08:34 am
No book spoilers please  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 09, 2016, 04:17:30 am
You don't know much about rickon or shaggy dog, except rickon is meant to be a toddler/ very young kid, so until his personality/mind ages and evolves then his wolf won't either. The very name shaggy dog comes across as a childish name, but I wouldn't be surprised I he rerun in this season
Well now we know what happened to him in the hbo fanfiction series. Am I the only one who couldn't wait for most of this episode to end? I thought good shows ended to soon, leaving the viewer wanting more not wishing it would end.

Damn I hope/wish Martin finishes the next book soon.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 09, 2016, 09:37:14 am
Still 2 more books. Winds of Winter might come but still.. A dream of Spring is a long way to go unless he stops being lazy.

Had hoped Rickon would get older and be more badass. Not just used as an item to make Plot Shield Ramsay stronger like Brienne used Stannis & The Hound + Daenerys with all her bullshit.

Hate those characters in the show.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: MacX85 on May 09, 2016, 02:24:08 pm
Am I the only one who couldn't wait for most of this episode to end?

I guess you are.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 09, 2016, 07:12:22 pm
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Alliser Thorne was such a badass, I really can't believe all the hatred he gets from idiotic audience of this show. From now on I'll honor him by using this image as my avatar here:

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on May 09, 2016, 07:13:48 pm
I did the same when Oberyn died, I got tons of flame cus of that, too soon maybe?

Also how the hell does Jon plan to explain when someone asks why you abandoned your watch?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 09, 2016, 07:16:57 pm
He tells people he died, was resurrected as a fucking god.

Now bow down bitches.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 09, 2016, 07:19:37 pm
Also I don't remember the Umbers being mad at the Starks in the books so I don't understand why they would kill Rickons wolf and give him to Ramsey, rather than giving him refuge at their castle.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: saccizord on May 09, 2016, 07:29:29 pm
I can't believe they killed Shaggydog like that. That has got to be a random black wolf head. Didn't seem a huge direwolf head for me. Considering that the Umber denied to bend the knee to Ramsay, I think he'll betray him later. Yeah I'm in denial mode.

Edit: Wolf head comparison
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 09, 2016, 07:32:32 pm
I can't believe they killed Shaggydog like that. That has got to be a random black wolf head. Didn't seem a huge direwolf head for me. Considering that the Umber denied to bend the knee to Ramsay, I think he'll betray him later. Yeah I'm in denial mode.
Ghost seems smaller too.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 09, 2016, 07:44:21 pm
I did the same when Oberyn died, I got tons of flame cus of that, too soon maybe?

Also how the hell does Jon plan to explain when someone asks why you abandoned your watch?
Who would he be explaining it to? Pretty sure he doesn't give a fuck.

Good episode, though. And hopefully Jon will start murdering bitches left and right now instead of being emo.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 09, 2016, 09:44:19 pm
Nice to see there is some form of story developing though. Jon is bound to lead the wildlings South.

Still have no idea how they are going to clear up 2 massive story archs (Daenarys invading Westeros and whitewalkers) with only a couple of seasons left after this one.

Also pretty much guaranteed Jon's lineage now. Lyanna Stark in the tower whilst giving birth (screaming) and Ned runs up and find them.

Ghost seems smaller too.

Ghost was the runt of the litter.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Knute on May 09, 2016, 10:02:47 pm
Also I don't remember the Umbers being mad at the Starks in the books so I don't understand why they would kill Rickons wolf and give him to Ramsey, rather than giving him refuge at their castle.

Book spoilers, avert your eyes:


It's mostly done so they can compact the plot since there wouldn't have been time for a Davos searching for Rickon side quest. I think in the books the leader of the Umbers was still being held hostage after the Red Wedding so most of his family is siding with the Boltons aside from a small group helping Stannis. Also I don't think it's a matter of Umbers being mad at the Starks, it's just that all the Stark family they would respect enough to follow are dead and they also lost a lot of men in the war because of the Starks bad decisions. It's more about the Umbers accepting their new reality and their biggest threat and priority has always been fighting wilding raiders so whoever controls Winterfell doesn't really affect them that much.

I think what I liked most about the books was the moment (can't remember which book) where the priest traveling with Brienne talks about the experience of the common man who gets taken away from their homes to fight wars for these families. Whichever family controls the iron throne or is lord of their region doesn't really make their lives any better, but they'll get used as pawns in the struggles of these families and possibly die or get stranded far away from home if their side loses:

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 09, 2016, 10:15:11 pm

Ghost was the runt of the litter.
I know he was the runt but he seemed bigger in previous seasons maybe I am just misremembering.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 09, 2016, 10:29:20 pm
Also pretty much guaranteed Jon's lineage now. Lyanna Stark in the tower whilst giving birth (screaming) and Ned runs up and find them.

Ghost was the runt of the litter.

A bigger hint towards his lineage was whem Arya said she had 4 brothers and got skacked for telling a lie
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 09, 2016, 10:55:38 pm
She changed it to half brother and didn't get whacked...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 09, 2016, 11:13:49 pm
Yes, no hints to Jon's lineage in that scene. Arya doesn't know the truth.

Jon was looking very spiffy after he got rid of the cloak. Really hope he starts murdering people, the show needs a protagonist that doesn't just talk.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 09, 2016, 11:20:09 pm
Yeah, she really believes she has a half-brother, so that would be seen as "true" to the faceless men, who use FBI type physionomy analysis or whatever it's called, pupil dilation and breathing and shit like that. They don't have any magical ability to determine truth and lie, as far as I know, it's all training.

At the Tower of Joy I kinda expected the king's guard to say "Woe to the Usurper if we had been" in response to Stark asking about their absence from the Trident, but they modernized it to "Good for him we weren't" or something along those lines. Woe is such a ponderous, dramatic word, I didn't even realize I remembered that line from the books until I noticed it's absence. And the swamp guy Reed is the one that saves Stark, as was hinted at in Ned's internal dialogue in the first book. Kinda expected it to be by poisoned arrow though, but backstabbing drives the point that he isn't some pamby knight concerned with honour well enough.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 09, 2016, 11:30:58 pm
I kinda laughed when Bran was like "he stabbed him in the back!". If he hadn't have you wouldn't be here Raisin Bran.  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 09, 2016, 11:49:04 pm
Apparently 4v1 was super-duper knightly honorable and totally fine, but actually succeeding at stabbing someone in the back isn't.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on May 10, 2016, 12:13:51 am
Actor who played Ned Stark did a well job tbh, his face when Reed stabs Dayne is what you'd expect from him, it is wrong to him but it needed to be done.

Disappointed that Arthur Dayne didn't have the famous greatsword.

Bran got too surprised when the most renowned fighter in Westeros was better than his father kek, he always told them if it wasn't Howland Reed he'd die I don't get why he gets too surprised.

Also what the fuck North was supposed to be land of honor and shit all the Lords became my old friends wtf
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 10, 2016, 12:34:38 am
All the lords that are left are pretty much the pond scum floating to the top.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tom Cruise on May 10, 2016, 01:10:56 am
Also who was the other kingsguard and why weren't all three there? It's either Whent or Hightower.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on May 10, 2016, 08:32:49 am
Also who was the other kingsguard and why weren't all three there? It's either Whent or Hightower.

http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Gerold_Hightower

The best thing is....I'd swear that just yesterday it said he was Oswell Whent, they changed it during the night.....
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Moncho on May 10, 2016, 09:16:44 am
"Your friend, the Usurper, would lie beneath the ground if we had been" is what they changed it to. A more modern version, woe would sound weird when said aloud. I don't dislike the change. A shame that they cut the rest of that exchange, but completely understandable, and show watchers wouldn't understand most of it (Who would remember Ser Willem, or Aerys (mad king), Lord Redwyne and the siege, etc)
They also mentioned Hightower in the council scene, as Lord Commander who stood in the Council meetings.
About the lack of Whent, I guess a 7-3 or a 6-2 doesn't make that much difference on the screen, just some extra dead extras, and 6v2 is easier to choreograph. Shame because I find House Whent quite cool, with Harrenhal, its curse and tournament, the (retarded) winged bat helmet.
And about the North, we yet have to see the Mormonts or the Manderlys reappear, and it could be the final climb before the fall for Reek Snow. And Davos was seen travelling in the trailer.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 10, 2016, 12:43:52 pm
Over the years there's been so much speculation about that scene in the books that it's ascended to mythical status, with far-reaching answers that solve a big part of the plot (R+L=J). As close as it was to the books, I can't help but feel it falls short, like so many other iconic moments they did in the shows. It's just book fanboy bundle of sticksry, I know. Like those Tolkien fans who loathe the LOTR movie trilogy and felt it should've been at least 9 movies to do it justice.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Fasader on May 10, 2016, 03:00:59 pm
holy shit, MUUUUUUUUUUUH 720NOSCOEP DUAL WIELD. no dawn :( so lame ):
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on May 10, 2016, 03:56:30 pm
Technically he had Dawn, it just wasn't an impressive greatsword cuz leet hollywood dual wielding skillz took precedence over accuracy.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 10, 2016, 09:57:58 pm
Dual wielding is superior against multiple opponents, so sayeth Musashi.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 10, 2016, 10:03:43 pm
If only crpg had dual wield
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on May 10, 2016, 11:46:53 pm
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Targaryens get effected by fire, though. Viserys got burned by gold and even Daenerys stated he wasn't a real Dragon because he got burned down
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It is just special to Daenerys as far I observe, she enters the hot water without not so much feeling the heat, walks through fire and shit like that.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 11, 2016, 12:17:05 am
Seems my theory about rickon was wrong  :lol:

Or as said previously it's a random wolf yada yada or Rickon is basically fucked
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 11, 2016, 12:41:49 am
Seems my theory about rickon was wrong  :lol:

Or as said previously it's a random wolf yada yada or Rickon is basically fucked
I posted what you said as a reply to you earlier heh but I changed it as it doesn't really change your theory because Sansa's wolf is dead and she is still alive. Or it could just be that Sansa is fucked too.  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: karasu on May 11, 2016, 10:52:12 am
holy shit, MUUUUUUUUUUUH 720NOSCOEP DUAL WIELD. no dawn :( so lame ):

http://i.imgur.com/IqaFJFh.gifv
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 11, 2016, 12:04:15 pm
Seems my theory about rickon was wrong  :lol:

Or as said previously it's a random wolf yada yada or Rickon is basically fucked

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaggy_dog_story

"In its original sense, a shaggy dog story is an extremely long-winded anecdote characterized by extensive narration of typically irrelevant incidents and terminated by an anticlimax or a pointless punchline.

Shaggy dog stories play upon the audience's preconceptions of joke-telling. The audience listens to the story with certain expectations, which are either simply not met or met in some entirely unexpected manner.[1] A lengthy shaggy dog story derives its humour from the fact that the joke-teller held the attention of the listeners for a long time (such jokes can take five minutes or more to tell) for no reason at all, as the end resolution is essentially meaningless."


Rickon's plot is totally pointless and always has been. Or it would be hilarious if it was, I dunno though. Seems like a clever fuck you by GRRM.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gnjus on May 11, 2016, 12:05:47 pm
holy shit, MUUUUUUUUUUUH 720NOSCOEP DUAL WIELD. no dawn :( so lame ):

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Fasader on May 11, 2016, 12:07:12 pm
Technically he had Dawn, it just wasn't an impressive greatsword cuz leet hollywood dual wielding skillz took precedence over accuracy.
was any of his swords white and shiny? NO. FUG OF HOLLERWEED :@
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Post by: Overdriven on May 11, 2016, 01:04:37 pm
Targaryens get effected by fire, though. Viserys got burned by gold and even Daenerys stated he wasn't a real Dragon because he got burned down
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It is just special to Daenerys as far I observe, she enters the hot water without not so much feeling the heat, walks through fire and shit like that.

Molten gold isn't fire though.

But can agree on the gas lamp thing.
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Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on May 11, 2016, 02:16:43 pm
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Post by: Jona on May 11, 2016, 03:50:41 pm
was any of his swords white and shiny? NO. FUG OF HOLLERWEED :@

Right, but he still had Hollywood's interpretation of Dawn, however inaccurate it was.  :(

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Post by: Asheram on May 11, 2016, 04:00:39 pm
Right, but he still had Hollywood's interpretation of Dawn, however inaccurate it was.  :(

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yeah, didn't he stick a 2 h sword in the dirt at first but fight with different ones?
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Post by: Oberyn on May 11, 2016, 04:13:36 pm
Shaggy Dog being the name of Rickon's wolf might be a hint, or it might be reading too much into it. I just thought it was an interesting coincidence.
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Post by: Jona on May 11, 2016, 05:51:49 pm
yeah, didn't he stick a 2 h sword in the dirt at first but fight with different ones?

Nah, he stuck one of his two longswords (presumably Hollywood's piss-poor rendition of Dawn) in the ground, then drew his other sword and that one out of the ground simultaneously.
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Post by: Asheram on May 11, 2016, 06:03:12 pm
Nah, he stuck one of his two longswords (presumably Hollywood's piss-poor rendition of Dawn) in the ground, then drew his other sword and that one out of the ground simultaneously.
ahh ok, ty for fyi.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 11, 2016, 07:02:32 pm
While Shaggy's cut off head might be fake and this might all be a masterplan by the North to trick Ramsay I wouldn't put it past D&D to go full retards and kill him off (possibly to piss Jon off).
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Post by: Xant on May 11, 2016, 09:05:28 pm
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It would have made more sense and somewhat aligned with the books more if Drogon had burned the room then she came out of the fire. Her father was getting his ass kicked til he pulled out his dragons.
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2016, 11:31:13 am
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2016, 02:14:06 pm
The ending was really lame.

I was expecting Daenerys to AT LEAST make some kind of a rousing speech but no, nothing.

That was really her plan? To kill their leaders in a fire, walk out of it, and expect 100k Dothraki to spontaneously fall on their knees and declare her their new boss?

The way it'd more likely have went:
"Wow, how is she not burned? That's weird."
"True- wait, did she just kill all of our Dear Leaders with the fire?"
"I wonder if she's as resistant to getting her neck snapped in half as she is to fire. Let's find out!"

But no, instead aaaaaaaaallll the Dothraki just fall on their knees, even though maybe 15% of them even saw what was going on.

As far as I remember, the Dothraki don't particularly worship fire. Then at least it'd make SOME sense, if they were like massive R'hllor worshippers. But they're not. To my/our knowledge, they have no "whosoever isn't touched by fire is The Great Prophet and shall be obeyed in all things" legend. Their religion is centered around horses.

All in all, a really weak plot device that doesn't make sense, just to give Daenerys her next great army. At this point, Daenerys scenes just make me cringe because she's basically Mary Sue.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 16, 2016, 02:15:37 pm
Horses and the great grass sea.

Haven't watched it yet but sounds lame.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 16, 2016, 03:35:12 pm
Probably gonna skip through most of the episode if it's a Daenerys fest. Hate that bitch. Saddens me she will survive throughout the whole show/books.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 16, 2016, 04:22:53 pm
Probably gonna skip through most of the episode if it's a Daenerys fest. Hate that bitch. Saddens me she will survive throughout the whole show/books.

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Post by: Asheram on May 16, 2016, 06:53:45 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1eeaxs/spoilers_all_clearing_up_a_common_misconception/
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 16, 2016, 07:35:40 pm
I'm getting to next tier levels of fed up with this show. I'm really tired how as long as your last name isnt Stark or Baratheon things somehow magically work out in your favor. If your last name is Bolton for example every single character you run into all of a sudden becomes a complete and total retard and you can easily out manuever them, or just stab them in the face for literally 0 consequences and no one will care at all no matter how important they were. In fact, everyone around you either becomes a retard or a closet sadist who is willing to just butcher everyone for you because "lel so edgy xD". Or if your last name is Targaryen you magically get to bullshit your way out of every single situation that doesnt even make that much sense but 'lel queen of dragons xD". Why did that fire even spread so god damn fast on dirt that doesnt even make sense. It took like 1 minute for the house to burn down. Was there no guards besides those two servants outside this meeting of all these leaders who fight each other on the reg? No? No one walking down the street to see two murdered bodies just chilling next to Jorah and that other my old friend? Okay sure nah Dany wins again because she got da dragons and everyone magically likes her for no reason@
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 16, 2016, 07:54:07 pm
Or if you're a butch tank lady like Brienne u get through shit too. BRB wrecking 2 of the most badass characters in the show (Stannis + The Hound).
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2016, 08:28:38 pm
Game of Thrones's George RR Martin: 'I'm a feminist' - Telegraph

Yeah, not surprising.
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Post by: Asheram on May 16, 2016, 08:45:32 pm
That ending made it easy for me to decide to get rid of my hbo sub and just watch it online free from now on.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 16, 2016, 08:58:32 pm
Thing is pretty much everyone I know, and read online, hates Daenerys. But I guess they have to keep her going cause dragons...

I'm really only watching for Jon Snow atm.

Even King's Landing. So much frikkin time wasted there with NOTHING happening. At least when Tyrion and Varys were there it was mildly amusing, even Tywin to an extent. Now they just have two political intrigue city storylines and one of them is utterly bland. They could cut King's Landing out at this point and it would detract nothing from the story line.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 16, 2016, 09:00:49 pm
I always assumed Daenerys would eventually turn into an insane tyrant, but seems like it's going to be typical fantasy trope Mary Sue all the way. Given how many other fantasy tropes the fatman has deliberately subverted it is a bit disapointing.
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2016, 09:06:28 pm
Thinking about it, Game of Thrones is basically the Game of Women Are Bad Ass right now.

Women control Dorne with their epic cunning and elite Sand Snakes who are totes convincing as warriors.
Women control King's Landing, with three different ones being the only strong characters left there (Grandmother, Margaery, Cersei- and Margaery was shown being Super Strong and trying to comfort her brother who was crying)
Arya is training to become Super Elite Magical Ninja Assassin
Brienne somehow beats the Hound and in general skates from any consequences, is the only actual knight in the series
Daenerys is Mary Sue herself with things falling into place automagically despite having the charisma of an 8 year old overspoiled brat on a temper tantrum and none of the plot for her making any sense yet she keeps getting stuff for free
Sansa Stark now apparently controls the wildling army via Jon Snow who lost his backbone just so Sansa could dictate to him what to do.

I'm sure I'm missing some, but the show is basically about girlpower. All the "wait, what the fuck just happened" stuff makes so much more sense when you know that GRRM is a self-professed feminist.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 16, 2016, 09:25:34 pm
Thinking about it, Game of Thrones is basically the Game of Women Are Bad Ass right now.

Women control Dorne with their epic cunning and elite Sand Snakes who are totes convincing as warriors.
Women control King's Landing, with three different ones being the only strong characters left there (Grandmother, Margaery, Cersei- and Margaery was shown being Super Strong and trying to comfort her brother who was crying)
Arya is training to become Super Elite Magical Ninja Assassin
Brienne somehow beats the Hound and in general skates from any consequences, is the only actual knight in the series
Daenerys is Mary Sue herself with things falling into place automagically despite having the charisma of an 8 year old overspoiled brat on a temper tantrum and none of the plot for her making any sense yet she keeps getting stuff for free
Sansa Stark now apparently controls the wildling army via Jon Snow who lost his backbone just so Sansa could dictate to him what to do.

I'm sure I'm missing some, but the show is basically about girlpower. All the "wait, what the fuck just happened" stuff makes so much more sense when you know that GRRM is a self-professed feminist.

Yes, you're missing the utterly sexa Yara Greyjoy, dear god how hot she is and has more balls than most of her Iroborn cunts.
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Post by: Xant on May 16, 2016, 09:45:46 pm
Ah, yes, of course, the gurlpower of the Iron Islands. Tougher than any man, she.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on May 16, 2016, 10:23:31 pm
being a feminist means you believe men and women should have equal rights.  it doesn't mean you believe women are superior to men.

Xant do you hate/despise women?  You sure come across as not liking them very much.
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Post by: Taser on May 16, 2016, 10:23:38 pm
Yeah most of the strong willed men were killed off or are following a woman. Hope Reek makes something of himself though. Gets his real name back and is able to look people in the eyes again. I'm tired of people acting broken to have the women save them. It's annoying the other way around as well but not really happening. Although it was nice not to see Arya for an episode.

I'm surprised though the wildlings will follow him to fight a war. Bursting into castle black because he got killed and fuck up the guys that did it, sure. Castle Black had less than 50 men and it was right on their doorstep. Following him to retake winterfell and fighting a large war esp with the white walkers on the way? That seems less likely. Well guess the knights of the vale will have some competition. Wonder what littlefinger will do once he finds out about an wildling army led by sansa and jon.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 16, 2016, 11:22:42 pm
Ah but they can cover that with the Ramsey threatening the wildlings in his letter thing. He called Jon letting them through the wall a betrayel and they will all die. Including the wildlings. So they haven't given them much of a choice.
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Post by: Taser on May 17, 2016, 12:10:51 am
Eh I guess. It's still mostly aimed at jon but I suppose it does affect them. Plus I'm sure he didn't expect them to give up sansa anyway.

Well guess there may be a little 3 way in the north soon. Or maybe more if the knights of the vale don't hold together. Not everyone likes uncle petyr in the land of the vale. 

Because lets be honest... the white walkers are taking their damn time. They'll show up the same time Daenerys ever gets over to westeros.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2016, 12:29:29 am
All real men died with Roose and Stannis being killed.

RIP Hound, Stannis, Roose, Ned Stark etc...

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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on May 17, 2016, 12:35:10 am
Hound aint dead nigga.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2016, 12:38:15 am
Hound aint dead nigga.

Cleganebowl hype?

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Post by: Xant on May 17, 2016, 08:13:58 am
being a feminist means you believe men and women should have equal rights.
lmao
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Post by: Vibe on May 17, 2016, 09:05:45 am
Not that I dislike Daenerys (or like for that matter), it sure would make more sense if those idiot pack leaders would have any reflexes and just jump over/through the fire before it spread and then raped Daenerys, then let their entire horde rape her and then obviously the horses as well. Oh did I mention it would also be more fun to see?
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Post by: MacX85 on May 17, 2016, 09:46:14 am
GoT has become  the "Game of empty Rape Threats" now it seems
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Post by: Molly on May 17, 2016, 10:06:30 am
I expected her to be rescued by her freaking dragon any time.
Disappointment was real.
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 17, 2016, 10:46:08 am
RIP Game of Thrones

Still a good show but not even close to being the best anymore.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 17, 2016, 10:50:22 am
I honestly thought the dragons would come save her. Maybe they have to skimp on CGI budget and have other plans for them.
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Post by: MacX85 on May 17, 2016, 10:57:05 am
I expected her to be rescued by her freaking dragon any time.
Disappointment was real.

No, that was clear to me that they wouldn't pull that trick again. The whole story arc was about her inspiring more people to join her.
I thought she would somehow convince the Dothraki that she's boss by diplomatic means. Instead she kills the bosses again, and that somehow worked out... oh well
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Post by: Torben on May 17, 2016, 11:53:01 am
inc post from GoT nub who dont know shit.

Yo sup with yall cryin feminist blabla.  Seriously, the only competent characters left are men.  All the women are mindless bitches acting on emotions.

In Kings landing they are being played by the high sparrow (seriously, ofc he planned for the little gay king to tell his mommy about the queens walk of shame and wants them to act accordingly)
Sansa is being used and raped all show long for being an opportunistic bitch.
Daenerys (!?) never knows what she is doing and needs the dwarf to clean her mess up.
also clarke seems to not being able to play daenerys as a women, she still spills the vibe of a confused child.  if she would man up at some point all would be cool,  but damn she stayed an annoying brat for too long now.

competent political players:
dwarf
little finger
varys
high sparrow
maaaaaybe snow if he didnt turn into a little bitch after coming back
mayhaps margaery

incompetent political players
daenarys: I dont know what is going on, dragons! meow
sansa: plox use me and rape my body and soul)
melisandre: stannis is my promised prince.  QQ there is no god. Snow is my promised prince
granny baratheon:  used to be cool now shes just gay
aaaah and ofc cersei:  she just lost it after having her children killed and being humiliated. incompetent but packing a punch


also what the fuck is up with all those gaylords:  there is a fucking decade long winter approaching, including an unstoppable army of undead.  and they whine about mimimi my castle, my dick, my daughter, me got raped,  but my dog got killed

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Post by: MacX85 on May 17, 2016, 11:58:09 am
granny baratheon

Who?
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Post by: Overdriven on May 17, 2016, 01:02:49 pm
competent political players:
dwarf
little finger
varys
high sparrow
maaaaaybe snow if he didnt turn into a little bitch after coming back
mayhaps margaery

I would add the Queen of Thorns to the competent.

also what the fuck is up with all those gaylords:  there is a fucking decade long winter approaching, including an unstoppable army of undead.  and they whine about mimimi my castle, my dick, my daughter, me got raped,  but my dog got killed

No one actually believes in them other than those who have seen them aka wildlings and the watch. Otherwise it's just passed off as hogwash so of course they don't give a shit.
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Post by: Torben on May 17, 2016, 02:46:04 pm
I would add the Queen of Thorns to the competent.

No one actually believes in them other than those who have seen them aka wildlings and the watch. Otherwise it's just passed off as hogwash so of course they don't give a shit.

yeah I know... but QQ

considering the QoT,  I'd agree but she is being played by that sparrow dude atm afaics,  so dunno.  but as I stated earlier,  I dont know jack about GoT, just my 2cents after watching season six last night.
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Post by: Xant on May 17, 2016, 03:28:38 pm
That must be the weirdest list I've ever seen, it's like the opposite day. Such politically competent people that they're in exile-under-the-pain-of-death and get stabbed to death by their brothers... and also serve the "incompetent."
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Post by: Asheram on May 17, 2016, 03:38:20 pm
I honestly thought the dragons would come save her. Maybe they have to skimp on CGI budget and have other plans for them.
As did I. When Drogon came to save her from them in the books I was getting the impression she was starting to learn how to control him a bit.

No, that was clear to me that they wouldn't pull that trick again. The whole story arc was about her inspiring more people to join her.
I thought she would somehow convince the Dothraki that she's boss by diplomatic means. Instead she kills the bosses again, and that somehow worked out... oh well
so the books can pull that trick more than once but not the show?!
Those horse riding rapists needed no diplomacy, they needed to bow or get burnt by Drogon, not some carriesque burning scene either.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 17, 2016, 03:46:03 pm
Tbf, GoT is going so comically, terribly overboard with the GRRRLPOWER pandering to the female audience now, in the latest episode just about every scene involved a woman telling a sniveling, indecisive cowardly male or a toxically masculine idiot how badass a female she is and how her enemies's asses need to be kicked.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2016, 03:57:58 pm
GURLPOOOOWER! #FIGHTTHEPATRIARCHY!


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also insert Daenerys + Brienne with plot armor of doom.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 17, 2016, 04:32:42 pm
Granted, not much girl power to be had in getting stabbed in the throat by a psychopath. There was still a common thread throughout the episode of the women being the resilient, strong ones bouncing back from adversity and the men being easily discouraged whiners broken by it. Can you imagine the backlash if the roles were reversed?
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Post by: Xant on May 17, 2016, 04:39:42 pm
I don't see how it's relevant in any way that Bolton killed a minor character who happened to be female.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 17, 2016, 05:01:36 pm
Everytime a woman so much as stubs her toe there has been a slew of articles decrying the terrible misogyny and obvious patriarchal bent of the show. Sansa getting rapped by Bolton was an attack on all women, somehow, but Theon getting his junk cut off and relentlessly tortured didn't seem to provoke much sympathy (prob cause he was an arrogant murderous douchebag who kind of deserved it as opposed to Sansa being an overall innocent victim, but still). If Asha was the one that had happened to, and she escaped then returned to the Iron Islands only to be chastized as a worthless, broken weakling by her brother, do you think the arguement that this is merely because the Iron Islanders despise weakness would have played well?
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Post by: Overdriven on May 17, 2016, 05:04:41 pm
Not to mention the red wedding where Rob's wife gets stabbed in the womb. That caused a shit storm.

So many people on the internet (lots of women) claiming they'd stop watching the show because it was an affront to women and GoT had gone too far. Yet no mention of Rob getting a dire wolf for a head.
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Post by: Molly on May 17, 2016, 05:14:39 pm
Maybe everyone should just stop interpret everything so much and take stuff more literal.
It's a TV show overall and while interpretation of the books might make sense to some degree, as soon as the TV show left those boundaries, there doesn't seem to be much point to it anymore, interpret stuff from a couple of screenwriters...
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Post by: Asheram on May 17, 2016, 05:42:35 pm
GURLPOOOOWER! #FIGHTTHEPATRIARCHY!


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also insert Daenerys + Brienne with plot armor of doom.

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Post by: Xant on May 17, 2016, 05:48:35 pm
The relevance is that she's doing exactly what you're calling bullshit on, and getting fucked over in-universe for it. Every major character has some degree of hero-armour, even in this. They die when it suits the plot.
Except that she's not? No idea what you're talking about, and you've clearly managed to completely misunderstand the complaint (not surprised). Female characters getting murdered is neither here nor there.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 17, 2016, 06:29:23 pm
Xantiphus & Emile arguments are sometimes more intense than GoT episodes, especially the King's Landing shit.

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Post by: LordBerenger on May 17, 2016, 07:02:04 pm
Not to mention the red wedding where Rob's wife gets stabbed in the womb. That caused a shit storm.

So many people on the internet (lots of women) claiming they'd stop watching the show because it was an affront to women and GoT had gone too far. Yet no mention of Rob getting a dire wolf for a head.

On a sidenote. Robb's show wife is one of the few book changes I agree with. The Red Wedding was more intense because of her death there instead of the whole Robb Wife still alive with a child and wasn't there with Robb deal the book went with. Derpy Jeyne.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 17, 2016, 07:04:37 pm
I thought the issue was with all the dominant women showing the men who's boss.

Thinking this was the issue I presented an example of a woman attempting to act like this in the most recent episode and getting stabbed in the neck like it was nothing.

Clearly I misunderstood, it wasn't at all an issue with 'girlpower'.
The argument was never that not a single woman in the show has ever died.
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Post by: Kalp on May 18, 2016, 07:22:12 pm
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Post by: Oberyn on May 18, 2016, 08:06:31 pm
Tormund gonna end up making sweet wilding love to that giant autistic woman with his arm-sized member. Arrrh!
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Post by: Asheram on May 18, 2016, 08:09:22 pm
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I don't think he could have eaten that more seductively. Brb gunna go wank one off.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 19, 2016, 01:15:08 am
Not confirmed spoilers from a deleted reddit thread by a redditor who seems to have a proven track record of leaking correct info. Pretty interesting read.


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Post by: LordBerenger on May 22, 2016, 05:25:37 pm
Not sure if i should link it here but Episode 5 has already leaked so (720p resolution it seems).
I'd rather watch it now today instead of waiting like 10 hours or so for it.


EDIT: Book readers only might freak out about 1 major reveal in the episode LOL
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Post by: Xant on May 22, 2016, 06:34:59 pm
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Post by: Ujin on May 22, 2016, 07:27:07 pm
Hold the door   :(
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Post by: Xant on May 22, 2016, 07:43:27 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 22, 2016, 08:47:20 pm
Didn't see any major reveals in this episode that book readers would freak out about.

Also, apparently I'm not the only one who noticed that Sansa has apparently started her (his) testosterone injections.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/257510770
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Post by: Overdriven on May 22, 2016, 09:25:29 pm
Can also see episode 6 listed.

O wait what episode are we on now?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 22, 2016, 09:28:21 pm
Didn't see any major reveals in this episode that book readers would freak out about.

Also, apparently I'm not the only one who noticed that Sansa has apparently started her (his) testosterone injections.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/257510770

Well origins of the White Walkers.

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Post by: Xant on May 22, 2016, 09:31:08 pm
Can also see episode 6 listed.

O wait what episode are we on now?
5. I don't see episode 6 listed by anyone with a skull.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 22, 2016, 09:39:29 pm
Yeah turned out it was just a copy of 4.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 22, 2016, 10:26:08 pm
Also the ending:

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Great episode overall and best of the season so far IMO
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Post by: Smoothrich on May 22, 2016, 10:40:00 pm
Not sure if i should link it here but Episode 5 has already leaked so (720p resolution it seems).
I'd rather watch it now today instead of waiting like 10 hours or so for it.


EDIT: Book readers only might freak out about 1 major reveal in the episode LOL

Thanks for the heads up 8-)

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Post by: Vibe on May 22, 2016, 11:40:22 pm
Didn't see any major reveals in this episode that book readers would freak out about.

Also, apparently I'm not the only one who noticed that Sansa has apparently started her (his) testosterone injections.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/257510770

I guess getting buthol raped by Ramsay has made her into a real man. Too bad she's still annoying af. Is there anyone that actually likes this Sansa character?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on May 22, 2016, 11:50:19 pm
O man summer and hodor.

Good episode though.
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Post by: Xant on May 22, 2016, 11:53:44 pm
I guess getting buthol raped by Ramsay has made her into a real man. Too bad she's still annoying af. Is there anyone that actually likes this Sansa character?
Yes, getting raped and beaten and abused for years makes people very assertive, it is known. Unless, of course, it's a male character like Theon.

That scene with Littlefinger was cringey, too.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on May 23, 2016, 12:10:47 am
Damn I wanna see the next episode asap.

Also the spoilers from that deleted reddit thread all makes sense now and seem to be 100% correct so far. That means we got some badass stuff to come in the next 5 episodes.

On a sidenote we really need a Game Of Thrones/ASOIAF MMO
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 23, 2016, 12:16:44 am
Yes, the spoilerguy seems to have been legit. Accurately predicted two things that happened in this episode.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 23, 2016, 12:26:12 am
Yes, the spoilerguy seems to have been legit. Accurately predicted two things that happened in this episode.

Since Obama has gotten to watch the episodes before they are released it can only mean he's the one leaking it all.

Thanks Obama!
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Post by: Son Of Odin on May 23, 2016, 12:26:43 am
Hold the door :cry:

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Post by: Asheram on May 23, 2016, 12:56:53 am
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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 23, 2016, 04:20:28 am
HOLD THE DOOR! HOLD THE DOOR! HOLD THE DOOR! HOLD THE DOOR!

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Post by: saccizord on May 23, 2016, 04:21:22 am
Hold the door. So fucking sad.

And that CGI cut by killing Summer :(
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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 23, 2016, 04:28:32 am
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Post by: Asheram on May 23, 2016, 04:34:10 am
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Probably like trying to not go online to checkout whats happening here or on other sites you frequent.  :P
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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 23, 2016, 04:35:08 am
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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 23, 2016, 04:44:44 am
So Hodor unwillingly or maybe willingly made the ultimate sacrifice even more than Jesus Christ.

Jesus just died for sins, he only gave up his life after he primed.

Hodor sacrificed his life pre-prime, all through his prime up until the very end.


Hodor first true son of God.

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Post by: Moncho on May 23, 2016, 07:37:26 am
Beautiful, but I prefer the more intellectual "hurdurdurrr" theory to just holding the door though. Can't wait for the beautiful death for that episode.
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Post by: Gnjus on May 23, 2016, 09:12:48 am
I guess getting buthol raped by Ramsay has made her into a real man. Is there anyone that actually likes this Sansa character?

Xant does, as something similar happened to him in the army. Afterwards he was never the same on this forum.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 23, 2016, 03:06:45 pm
Xant does, as something similar happened to him in the army. Afterwards he was never the same on this forum.
It is true, I gained unimaginable powers through butthol rape.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gmnotutoo on May 23, 2016, 04:54:58 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on May 23, 2016, 05:33:56 pm
I'm kinda on the fence with time travel being introduced into GoT. On one hand if handled well it could be really cool and add some more mysticism to the show, but historically Hollywood always fucks up when it comes to time travel. Not to mention that it also introduces the same issue that lotr had, which was "why did they walk all the way across Middle Earth when they could have just flown around on eagles, saving countless lives?" Now whenever shit happens in GoT people will be asking "why couldn't Bran just go back and time and prevent that?"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gmnotutoo on May 23, 2016, 05:46:08 pm
I'm kinda on the fence with time travel being introduced into GoT. On one hand if handled well it could be really cool and add some more mysticism to the show, but historically Hollywood always fucks up when it comes to time travel. Not to mention that it also introduces the same issue that lotr had, which was "why did they walk all the way across Middle Earth when they could have just flown around on eagles, saving countless lives?" Now whenever shit happens in GoT people will be asking "why couldn't Bran just go back and time and prevent that?"

LOTR: A giant eagle flying near Mordor and carrying the ring of power when Sauron has Fellbeasts (wyvrens) is a terrible idea.

GoT: Because Bran is traumatized. Also the tree seems to be the conductor for astral projecting into the past and its safe to say that no one is going back there for a while.
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Post by: Jona on May 23, 2016, 06:01:04 pm
LOTR: A giant eagle flying near Mordor and carrying the ring of power when Sauron has Fellbeasts (wyvrens) is a terrible idea.

GoT: Because Bran is traumatized. Also the tree seems to be the conductor for astral projecting into the past and its safe to say that no one is going back there for a while.

LOTR: The eagles beat the shit out of the fellbeasts in aerial combat... not to mention that there is an entire army of eagles vs. at most the 9 fellbeasts that Sauron has, and the fact that gandalf can be riding said eagles and blasting the fellbeasts outa the sky. And of course the fellbeasts aren't constantly flying around on patrol, the eagles could just swoop in real quick with the element of surprise on their side.

GoT: Even if Bran requires a tree to go back in time there is no reason he can't just wait and do that at a later point in time. "I better warn my past self to not get trapped in the three-eyed raven's cave when the white walkers attack! if only I had a tree nearby..." he thinks immediately after escaping in this latest episode. Now he has the entire rest of his life to tap into the power of a tree to go back and warn himself, he isn't necessarily in a hurry. All he ever needs to do is live until he comes into contact with another one of the weirwood trees.

No sense really arguing about each of our opinions at this point anyways, seeing how they just introduced this power without giving us any definitive restrictions yet. No doubt they'll provide a very simplistic restriction that most watchers will believe and be like "ah, so that's why he can't just time travel all willy-nilly."
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on May 23, 2016, 06:03:30 pm
I'm kinda on the fence with time travel being introduced into GoT. On one hand if handled well it could be really cool and add some more mysticism to the show, but historically Hollywood always fucks up when it comes to time travel. Not to mention that it also introduces the same issue that lotr had, which was "why did they walk all the way across Middle Earth when they could have just flown around on eagles, saving countless lives?" Now whenever shit happens in GoT people will be asking "why couldn't Bran just go back and time and prevent that?"
Because influencing the past has gone so well for the people involved so far when Bran has done it?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on May 23, 2016, 06:08:32 pm
There are different interpretations of time travel in fiction. I think he pretty clearly went with the snake eating it's own tail variety, which is probably one of the simplest ones to keep straight. Anything that Bran changes he has already changed, and so any attempt to change the past is counterproductive, since it has already happened and may even have happened only because he attempted to change it in the first place. So we may find out Bran is ultimately responsible for random events throughout the timeline.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Gmnotutoo on May 23, 2016, 06:14:05 pm
LOTR: The eagles beat the shit out of the fellbeasts in aerial combat... not to mention that there is an entire army of eagles vs. at most the 9 fellbeasts that Sauron has, and the fact that gandalf can be riding said eagles and blasting the fellbeasts outa the sky. And of course the fellbeasts aren't constantly flying around on patrol, the eagles could just swoop in real quick with the element of surprise on their side.

No sense really arguing about each of our opinions at this point anyways, seeing how they just introduced this power without giving us any definitive restrictions yet. No doubt they'll provide a very simplistic restriction that most watchers will believe and be like "ah, so that's why he can't just time travel all willy-nilly."

Battle of the Morannon:

The West was losing the battle, they only won because Frodo put the ring on inside Mount Doom and Sauron panicked by recalling the ring-wraiths which left his armies leaderless/confused. Then gollum bites the ring off and falls into the volcano.

Sauron is a giant fucking eye in the sky. Literally.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 23, 2016, 06:25:44 pm
Eagles are the Deus Ex Machina of the LOTR universe. They could win things almost automatically, but are reclusive and mysterious, only doing the bare minimum and at the last possible second. It's like the gods are playing a game where they attempt to influence the world without direct force, and try to do shit like sending angels (Gandalf & co) to guide their side, and sometimes responding to prayers in the most dire of times, but despite all their subtle workings they lose every time and have to press the "Send the Eagles" button to salvage a victory, or rely on a completely random element like Gollum.
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Post by: Kalp on May 23, 2016, 07:17:25 pm
Tension growing  :lol:
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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 23, 2016, 07:20:55 pm
Tension growing  :lol:
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The only plot that matters to me anymore. Fuck The White Walkers wiping out Westeros. Fuck the slaves. Fuck the trailer trash Iron Born. I need to see these two fug!

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Post by: LordBerenger on May 23, 2016, 07:21:26 pm
It is true, I gained unimaginable powers through butthol rape.

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Post by: Sir_Hans on May 23, 2016, 07:54:56 pm
what happened to Pod? why wasnt he following breanne around like always?
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Post by: Molly on May 23, 2016, 07:55:55 pm
what happened to Pod? why wasnt he following breanne around like always?
He was. Scene at the end where they leave the Castle, he was there in the background on a horse.
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Post by: Malaclypse on May 23, 2016, 08:00:14 pm
He was. Scene at the end where they leave the Castle, he was there in the background on a horse.

Yup, still just rocking that old hand-me-down red leather armor.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on May 23, 2016, 08:54:15 pm
The only plot that matters to me anymore. Fuck The White Walkers wiping out Westeros. Fuck the slaves. Fuck the trailer trash Iron Born. I need to see these two fug!

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Tom Cruise on May 23, 2016, 09:42:59 pm
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 24, 2016, 08:32:48 am
I cried more when the rightful King of Westeros, Stannis died thanks to the butch lady.
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Post by: Asheram on May 24, 2016, 08:36:17 am
I cried more when the rightful King of Westeros, Stannis died thanks to the butch lady.
What did he ever do to make you cry when he died? Murder his brother?

where does this "rightful" crap come from anyways? The Targeinsteinans took what they wanted only because they had dragons after whatever the hell their race was doing to get them scorched of off the face of the planet. Was Stannis the rightful king because he was someones brother? Robert Baratheon won because of his passion for his love that was abducted and westeros was done with the targeinsteinans madness. One group came in and took what they wanted from the weaker group, starting with the Andals. Which we now know is how the others came to be, created by the children of the forest because of the Andal invasion.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 24, 2016, 10:22:02 am
Because Stannis had the right qualities of a King. He wasn't a naive drama queen like Daenerys with a smug way of carrying herself. He wasn't a spoiled psycho like Joffrey. He wasn't a pathetic weakling like Renly and he wasn't into the backstabbing Kings Landing politics like Cersei and Lannisters.

There's a reason Ned Stark fought so hard for Stannis to be king and even rejected the offer to do a coup to become the king himself before he got his head chopped off. He was a stoic and honorable man. A kind of man who keeps getting killed in Westeros.

Only to be killed by a butch Mary Sue.

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Post by: Vibe on May 24, 2016, 10:37:17 am
Only to be killed by a butch Mary Sue.

Tbh, he was killed by his own foolishness. I also liked Stannis but getting finished off by the big lady is just the cherry on top of his recent fuckups, aka charging Winterfell when half his army defected, etc. Was a desperate act.
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Post by: karasu on May 24, 2016, 12:38:53 pm
TIL: every little fuck up on the timeline is Brans fault. Never fiddle with time, kids.
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Post by: Vibe on May 24, 2016, 12:46:01 pm
TIL: every little fuck up on the timeline is Brans fault. Never fiddle with time, kids.

tfw he made Ramsay buthol rape his sister

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Post by: Golem on May 24, 2016, 01:12:01 pm
Noone makes a tribute to the dire wolf. I was chilled to the bone, by that scene and the sounds just after echoing in the tunnels. You guys are heartless idiots.  :cry:
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Post by: Moncho on May 24, 2016, 01:21:40 pm
Don't worry too much, we know that the Others reanimate corpses, so its quite possible that we haven't seen the last of Hodor or Summer. I wonder if the CoTF can also be reanimated...
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Post by: Overdriven on May 24, 2016, 01:33:51 pm
Apparently the actor of Hodor let on that it isn't the last we've seen of him.
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Post by: Macropus on May 24, 2016, 02:14:24 pm
Am I the only one wondering why GoT decided to show us a dick in the last episode?
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Post by: Son Of Odin on May 24, 2016, 02:23:39 pm
Apparently the actor of Hodor let on that it isn't the last we've seen of him.

Hodor the new king of white walkers? :D

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Post by: LordBerenger on May 24, 2016, 04:49:32 pm
Hodor the new king of white walkers? :D

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Post by: Taser on May 24, 2016, 05:00:16 pm
Noone makes a tribute to the dire wolf. I was chilled to the bone, by that scene and the sounds just after echoing in the tunnels. You guys are heartless idiots.  :cry:

Was sad but ultimately a waste. Same with Leaf unless she had to hold onto it to make it explode like it did.
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Post by: Xant on May 24, 2016, 05:15:04 pm
They had been throwing them like grenades just fine before, but she decided to suicide instead out of nowhere.
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Post by: Taser on May 24, 2016, 05:26:18 pm
Yeah but I was wondering if she had to hold onto it to make the explosion bigger or something since it seemed to be different from the explosions when they threw it. But they gave no real indication either way so.. yeah I don't see why she had to go allah ackbar.
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Post by: Weren on May 24, 2016, 05:29:30 pm
They had been throwing them like grenades just fine before, but she decided to suicide instead out of nowhere.

Yeah seemed kinda dumb(even if she felt guilt and wanted to die fighting). They couldn't hit shit with them though in the scene earlier. Should have invested in Weapon Master.
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Post by: Asheram on May 24, 2016, 05:40:43 pm
Noone makes a tribute to the dire wolf. I was chilled to the bone, by that scene and the sounds just after echoing in the tunnels. You guys are heartless idiots.  :cry:
Put some scenes and pics of summer and his siblings to this and there's your tribute. :P
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Post by: vipere on May 24, 2016, 05:44:41 pm
He should have called Hodor : Don'tworry,igotthekeytolockthis

Stupid Bran

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Post by: Oberyn on May 24, 2016, 11:09:24 pm
They had been throwing them like grenades just fine before, but she decided to suicide instead out of nowhere.

Can throw magical exploding fire balls, create uncontrollable undead army to defend from men with pointy sticks.
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Post by: Teeth on May 25, 2016, 11:06:16 am
I could not appreciate the drama of the ending scene with Bran because nothing makes sense, as always. I mean, the three eyed crow literally said that the White Walkers knew their location and were going to come for them. So what do they do? They go on a fucking vision quest and sleep through the arrival of the White Walkers and start running when the undead are on top of them. Strong planning skills right there. Then the whole "hold the door" moment is super dramatic and all, but instead of the undead being right behind them, Hodor bought them about a 50 meters headstart. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, I don't see how that is going to matter in any sensible way.
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Post by: Vibe on May 25, 2016, 11:13:38 am
I could not appreciate the drama of the ending scene with Bran because nothing makes sense, as always. I mean, the three eyed crow literally said that the White Walkers knew their location and were going to come for them. So what do they do? They go on a fucking vision quest and sleep through the arrival of the White Walkers and start running when the undead are on top of them. Strong planning skills right there. Then the whole "hold the door" moment is super dramatic and all, but instead of the undead being right behind them, Hodor bought them about a 50 meters headstart. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, I don't see how that is going to matter in any sensible way.

Oh what, you mean a female wouldn't outrun a horde of superfast frost zombies in freezing cold weather all while dragging a crippled kid? That's just sexist Teeth.
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Post by: Xant on May 25, 2016, 12:58:58 pm
I could not appreciate the drama of the ending scene with Bran because nothing makes sense, as always. I mean, the three eyed crow literally said that the White Walkers knew their location and were going to come for them. So what do they do? They go on a fucking vision quest and sleep through the arrival of the White Walkers and start running when the undead are on top of them. Strong planning skills right there. Then the whole "hold the door" moment is super dramatic and all, but instead of the undead being right behind them, Hodor bought them about a 50 meters headstart. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, I don't see how that is going to matter in any sensible way.
Yes, Game of Thrones is very disappointing these days, let's be honest.

It started out as a show that defied clichés, which was a big part of its appeal. Now it's nothing but a cliché-fest, from story to the cinematography. It's still good, probably the best thing on TV, but it's A) not as good as it was, and B) pissing all the potential it had down the drain.
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Post by: Jona on May 25, 2016, 03:43:20 pm
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Agreed. The show has had its ups and downs in the past, and imo the writing isn't outstandingly less remarkable this season when compared to prior seasons. The only thing that "ruined" GoT is its own longevity.
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Post by: Asheram on May 25, 2016, 05:38:00 pm
Yes, Game of Thrones is very disappointing these days, let's be honest.

It started out as a show that defied clichés, which was a big part of its appeal. Now it's nothing but a cliché-fest, from story to the cinematography. It's still good, probably the best thing on TV for me, but it's A) not as good as it was, and B) pissing all the potential it had down the drain.
good thing there's only 2 seasons left.
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Post by: Renay on May 25, 2016, 05:54:26 pm
only 2 seasons left.

:(
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Post by: Xant on May 25, 2016, 06:07:21 pm
A show that wants to shock it's audience by defying clichés needs to sometimes also adhere to the clichés. Otherwise you know that every time a main character can die, they will die and the occurrence will no longer shock you.

Yes, because clearly killing off main characters is the only way to defy the clichés, and main characters living is the only cliché in existence.
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Post by: Leesin on May 25, 2016, 06:15:24 pm
Should probably call it Game of Feminism now anyway.
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Post by: vipere on May 25, 2016, 06:20:39 pm
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Post by: Xant on May 25, 2016, 07:31:51 pm
Well that was simple, you should take up writing
But not as simple as you, Heskey Time.
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Post by: Jona on May 25, 2016, 07:46:37 pm
But not as simple as you, Heskey Time.

He's keeping it simple since it doesn't take much effort to beat you in an argument.


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Post by: Malaclypse on May 25, 2016, 08:22:30 pm
Hodor basically bought just enough time for Bran and Meera to be miraculously saved by.. well, you know, that reddit thread is batting 100%, it's in there. I'm imagining he'll show up at the last moment next episode the two are in.
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Post by: Oberyn on May 25, 2016, 08:32:34 pm
I'm wondering if Bran's brain fucking of Hodor was even deliberate or an accident. If it was deliberate Bran is right up there with Cersei in being a sadistic self-centered cunt. Sacrifices not only the man's life for his continued survival but his entire fucking existence, anything that kid might have been reduced to a shambling retarded giant whose ultimate purpose is to be nothing more than a door stopper. 
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Post by: Asheram on May 26, 2016, 05:38:48 pm
In memory of all the dead Direwolves
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Post by: Asheram on May 26, 2016, 08:52:02 pm
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Post by: Tom Cruise on May 27, 2016, 12:31:44 am
Goodnight sweet prince....
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Post by: Xant on May 27, 2016, 02:06:20 am
He's even fatter in real life.
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Post by: Macropus on May 27, 2016, 09:39:18 pm
He's even fatter in real life.
Well, he had to get big enough to be able to hold that door.
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Post by: Torben on May 27, 2016, 11:06:14 pm
why is he so gayishly offended. 
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Post by: Xant on May 27, 2016, 11:32:29 pm
It's part of the joke, friend.
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Post by: Jarold on May 29, 2016, 10:54:27 am
It's part of the joke, friend.

Was it, buddy?
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Post by: ArysOakheart on May 29, 2016, 05:31:36 pm
Tyrion will kill the red priest with his fat pink mast and he will unsheathe it as LIGHTBRINGER!
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Post by: Son Of Odin on May 29, 2016, 06:42:21 pm
Btw shouldn't Bran be pretty fucked up too after what happened with Hodor? I had the impression it's bad shit for the warg too if the host body dies while they're warging it.
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Post by: Golem on May 30, 2016, 01:27:51 am
Was it, buddy?

Ofc it is you inbred, he's a professional actor. Ofc it seems a genuine reaction. Plus, afaik chubby bois don't get a lot of pussy.
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Post by: Golem on May 30, 2016, 01:31:34 am
why is he so gayishly offended.

and I thought gay meant cheery and joyous, he seemed more like an angry bear or a silverback to me

also did you guys hear about that gorilla that got shot just because a small boy got into the enclosure?



sick fucks
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Post by: Asheram on May 30, 2016, 07:02:21 am
Did Bran make the Mad Targaryen king go mad in his past time travels?
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Post by: Xant on May 30, 2016, 08:22:00 am
Yes.

Just started watching, but how the fuck did that girl escape from all the undead? She's dragging Bran slowly in the beginning. So I guess she was powered by feminism after all. Was able to literally drag Bran faster than tireless undead are able to run, and so much faster that she has time to stop and cry for a few minutes until they catch up.
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Post by: Asheram on May 30, 2016, 08:29:38 am
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Post by: Xant on May 30, 2016, 09:23:09 am
That episode was pretty bad and several things didn't make sense but oh well

At this point I'm more looking forward to the books.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2016, 10:14:00 am
That episode was pretty bad and several things didn't make sense but oh well

At this point I'm more looking forward to the books.

You'll be dead before the last book will come out.

Lazy GRRM
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Post by: Son Of Odin on May 30, 2016, 11:23:56 am
So Benjen is Coldhands. According to D.B Weiss.

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Post by: Xant on May 30, 2016, 11:34:07 am
Well, that was pretty obvious even in the books.
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Post by: Renay on May 30, 2016, 11:50:06 am
I'm so dissappointed the Faith Militant wasn't slaughtered  :evil:
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Post by: Moncho on May 30, 2016, 12:18:35 pm
In the books GRRM confirmed that Benjen is not Coldhands though:
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Post by: Overdriven on May 30, 2016, 01:01:53 pm
I can never see Gilly as anyone other than Cassie. Makes the whole thing even more lols.

Bit of a meh episode all round really. What I really don't get is the high sparrows agenda. He's playing politics with the best of them but with no foreseeable end goal. He's playing the game too much to just be a fanatic. He must have some ultimate motive.
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 30, 2016, 01:04:40 pm
I can never see Gilly as anyone other than Cassie. Makes the whole thing even more lols.

Bit of a meh episode all round really. What I really don't get is the high sparrows agenda. He's playing politics with the best of them but with no foreseeable end goal. He's playing the game too much to just be a fanatic. He must have some ultimate motive.

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Post by: Son Of Odin on May 30, 2016, 01:07:29 pm
In the books GRRM confirmed that Benjen is not Coldhands though:
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Yep that was on a page for his editor or something. Well the books are the books and the show is the show.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2016, 01:56:47 pm
I'm so dissappointed the Faith Militant wasn't slaughtered  :evil:

Found the Loras/Renly butt lover.

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Repent your sins you sinning homosexual!
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Post by: Renay on May 30, 2016, 03:35:23 pm
Found the Loras/Renly butt lover.

SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Repent your sins you sinning homosexual!

Nah, I'm just a fan of killing.
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 30, 2016, 03:47:35 pm
Nah, I'm just a fan of killing.

Joffrey lover spotted.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 30, 2016, 06:36:08 pm
Saw this on r/freefolk lol.

Daenerys the whore right now.

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Post by: Renay on May 31, 2016, 12:08:51 am
God, I hope Daenerys dies. Spoiled brat.
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Post by: Torben on May 31, 2016, 12:37:24 am
God, I hope Daenerys dies. Spoiled brat.

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Post by: Asheram on May 31, 2016, 01:37:03 am
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Post by: Xant on May 31, 2016, 03:19:00 am
Daenerys couldn't control he dragons at-fucking-all when we last saw them, now suddenly she has perfect control over the wildest one? Before it was a victory to have it not eat her on sight. But hey, let's just cut from "my mary sue senses are tingling" to "Daenerys delivers an awful speech on top of Drogon." I'm sorry, the actress has no orating skills and it's just cringey when she tries to play bad ass.
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Post by: MacX85 on May 31, 2016, 08:22:48 am
I enjoy it very much whenever she speaks in foreign tongues like Dothraki or Valyrian.
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Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2016, 08:30:05 am
her speech was cringe af
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Post by: Oberyn on May 31, 2016, 08:59:43 am
I honestly still think she's being built up as an eventual "bad guy". A bunch of dragons and an army of bloodthirsty rapists with the goal to conquer land and tear down castles doesn't sound very noble, with the addition of even more bloodthirsty rapists when the Ironborn conveniently show up with a massive fleet just as she's convinced the Dothraki to follow her across the sea. The only army she's had so far is a bunch of robotic drugged euneuchs, and I don't care how fucking kawai they all think she is the Dothraki and Ironborn ain't gonna stop the rapin' and the lootin' they know and love. I mean, an army composed of viking and mongol derivatives, I can't think of anything that says predatory mass destruction any better, except maybe fucking dragons, which oh wait she also has, with the robotic drugged euneuch baby/dog murderers as an afterthought. I can't see anyone in the Seven Kingdoms welcoming that shit. 
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Post by: Vibe on May 31, 2016, 11:06:30 am
I honestly still think she's being built up as an eventual "bad guy". A bunch of dragons and an army of bloodthirsty rapists with the goal to conquer land and tear down castles doesn't sound very noble, with the addition of even more bloodthirsty rapists when the Ironborn conveniently show up with a massive fleet just as she's convinced the Dothraki to follow her across the sea. The only army she's had so far is a bunch of robotic drugged euneuchs, and I don't care how fucking kawai they all think she is the Dothraki and Ironborn ain't gonna stop the rapin' and the lootin' they know and love. I mean, an army composed of viking and mongol derivatives, I can't think of anything that says predatory mass destruction any better, except maybe fucking dragons, which oh wait she also has, with the robotic drugged euneuch baby/dog murderers as an afterthought. I can't see anyone in the Seven Kingdoms welcoming that shit.

bruh she'll just burn a few niggaz in a fire then walk thru it and everyone will stop raping and pillaging at her command. I can't see this chick being turned into a bad guy, but it would definitely be excellent to see the outrage of her fanboys to something like that... or her death
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Post by: Xant on May 31, 2016, 11:16:58 am
I honestly still think she's being built up as an eventual "bad guy". A bunch of dragons and an army of bloodthirsty rapists with the goal to conquer land and tear down castles doesn't sound very noble, with the addition of even more bloodthirsty rapists when the Ironborn conveniently show up with a massive fleet just as she's convinced the Dothraki to follow her across the sea. The only army she's had so far is a bunch of robotic drugged euneuchs, and I don't care how fucking kawai they all think she is the Dothraki and Ironborn ain't gonna stop the rapin' and the lootin' they know and love. I mean, an army composed of viking and mongol derivatives, I can't think of anything that says predatory mass destruction any better, except maybe fucking dragons, which oh wait she also has, with the robotic drugged euneuch baby/dog murderers as an afterthought. I can't see anyone in the Seven Kingdoms welcoming that shit.
You'd think, but she is denerys sturmbjorn. They'll all be on their best behavior after she gives them a rousing speech.
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Post by: Torben on May 31, 2016, 11:25:45 am
rousing speech.

she is great at those.  goddamit seeing that women reminds me of an infant posing as the hulk.  the agony, aaah!
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Post by: Nickleback on May 31, 2016, 12:47:33 pm
she is bitchin' now oberyn but if u read the book u know that the rightful queen IN THE END COMBINES HER POWER WITH THE NORTH'S I MEAN JON SNOW'S, IF U know what i mean.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 31, 2016, 01:21:46 pm
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And the usual shouty speech. Isn't GoT without Daenary's yelling something at people every few episodes.

I can't see her being made into a bad guy. More likely she'll rock up on her dragon, yell a bit and then King's Landing will be hers.

I can see things going a bit cheesy from here on out. Daenary's retakes the 7 Kingdoms, Jon retakes Winterfell and becomes Warden of the North. Aka things have now gone full circle since Robert's Rebellion with a Targaryen back on the throne and a 'Stark' in Winterfelll. Just in time for them to then unite and with some Bran magic defeat the white walkers.

They will probably throw in a couple of deaths just to keep it gritty. Maybe Cersei and a couple of others. But between Arya, Jon, Daenarys, Sansa ect I think they will have enough plot armour that they can't kill them off.

Heck maybe Littelfinger will finally get what's coming to him.
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Post by: LordBerenger on May 31, 2016, 01:29:38 pm
I can't wait for whatever prequel/sequel series they will make in the ASOIAF universe. Because hopefully it means no Daenerys/Brienne/Ramsay in it.
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Post by: the real god emperor on May 31, 2016, 01:37:01 pm
I can't wait for whatever prequel/sequel series they will make in the ASOIAF universe. Because hopefully it means no Daenerys/Brienne/Ramsay in it.

I heard it could be a movie trilogy or smth like that.
Which I would prefer over a TV show nothing happens tbh.
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Post by: Overdriven on May 31, 2016, 01:45:30 pm
A Robert's Rebellion movie would be pretty nice.

Heck I'd like an Aegon and dragons prequel as well. Though depending on where they go with GoT it could be too similar. But would be nice to see a bit of Valyria and the build up.
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Post by: Xant on May 31, 2016, 01:49:38 pm

Holy shit the cringe is real. Her speech sucks, the way she talks is awful and hurts your ears, and worst of all, the exaggerated as fuck reactions from the Dothraki makes it 10x worse.

will u give me the gift that khal drogo promised me
on the fifth of may
seven o clock
b4 the mountens
next to that grassy patch that we loved
when i was bit hungry

WOOHOO!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEESSS!! YAAAY!!! I CANT FUCKING CONTROL MY HORSE IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: Oberyn on May 31, 2016, 03:38:48 pm
And the usual shouty speech. Isn't GoT without Daenary's yelling something at people every few episodes.

I can't see her being made into a bad guy. More likely she'll rock up on her dragon, yell a bit and then King's Landing will be hers.

I can see things going a bit cheesy from here on out. Daenary's retakes the 7 Kingdoms, Jon retakes Winterfell and becomes Warden of the North. Aka things have now gone full circle since Robert's Rebellion with a Targaryen back on the throne and a 'Stark' in Winterfelll. Just in time for them to then unite and with some Bran magic defeat the white walkers.

They will probably throw in a couple of deaths just to keep it gritty. Maybe Cersei and a couple of others. But between Arya, Jon, Daenarys, Sansa ect I think they will have enough plot armour that they can't kill them off.

Heck maybe Littelfinger will finally get what's coming to him.

I'm expecting a twist, just because that's the way these books are. Would be really disapointing if it just goes straight vanilla fantasy at the end. Incidentally it's been a while since anyone but random side characters have been brutally backstabbed, at least with any consequence (Jesus Jon Snow). Some blood is due.
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Post by: karasu on May 31, 2016, 03:50:00 pm
And to think this one was supposed to be Daenerys at some point...  :(

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Post by: Torben on May 31, 2016, 07:24:42 pm
And to think this one was supposed to be Daenerys at some point...  :(

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grrr :D


anyways,  I dont see why daenarys cant just come over with her huge ass army,  somehow die to an assasination or some gay ass infection and all her men and dragons fight a great, beautiful battle against dem zombies but finally loose,  shattering the last hope of the 7 kingdoms who by then got to know the white walker threat was for real.   in a twist the 3eyed raven gathers the leaders, shows them the way to victory but they ignore him beacause he is a cripple, and a stark.  so they all die, and the sequel can feature mila jovovich as a sword swinging alice in a resident medievil.
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Post by: Asheram on May 31, 2016, 08:40:29 pm
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?
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Post by: Moncho on May 31, 2016, 08:50:04 pm
Bran has a mark on his arm that rendered the protective magic of the cave useless, perhaps he crosses the wall and that causes the spells to stop working there too.
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Post by: Renay on May 31, 2016, 10:02:03 pm
will u give me the gift that khal drogo promised me
on the fifth of may
seven o clock
b4 the mountens
next to that grassy patch that we loved
when i was bit hungry

WOOHOO!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEESSS!! YAAAY!!! I CANT FUCKING CONTROL MY HORSE IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What, you don't remember what she was wearing?
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Post by: Teeth on May 31, 2016, 10:05:34 pm
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?
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That horn turning out to be the Horn of Winter would be pretty cleverly written, remember when Game of Thrones was cleverly written? That was a long time ago.
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Post by: Renay on May 31, 2016, 10:16:18 pm
That horn turning out to be the Horn of Winter would be pretty cleverly written, remember when Game of Thrones was cleverly written? That was a long time ago.

Don't give up now. I have a feeling the next few episodes have something good in store.
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Post by: Golem on May 31, 2016, 10:16:33 pm
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?

Thought this was the HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers] thread.
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Post by: Asheram on May 31, 2016, 10:19:58 pm
What did I spoil? Mance had one in the books that wasn't the real one Tarly and Dolorous Edd found this one in the show, which also might not be the real one. But from what I hear we might find out more about the horn in a future episode through Brans visions.
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Post by: Xant on May 31, 2016, 10:23:28 pm

Relevant to my interests.
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Post by: Renay on May 31, 2016, 10:35:04 pm
Youtube never ceases to amaze me with its randomness.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 01, 2016, 09:34:52 am
Bran has a mark on his arm that rendered the protective magic of the cave useless, perhaps he crosses the wall and that causes the spells to stop working there too.

Does he still have it tho? It might have been just one shot deal.

Btw have you ever considered that maybe it was the Nights King who built the wall? So it probably wouldn't be a problem for him to break the magic of it.
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Post by: MacX85 on June 01, 2016, 11:37:00 am
Btw have you ever considered that maybe it was the Nights King who built the wall? So it probably wouldn't be a problem for him to break the magic of it.

I thought Bran the Builder built it.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 01, 2016, 12:11:58 pm
I thought Bran the Builder built it.

That's the common belief at least. Bran the builder did all sorts of stuff according to the people but it doesn't make them all true necessarily. The Maesters have twisted the truth about Westeros history before and that's partially why so little is known about "the others" before Bran and other people start finding out stuff beyond the wall.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 01, 2016, 12:19:09 pm
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?

Nah they will go ultimate cheese and decide to bring the wall down to start an epic last stand ala LotR.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 01, 2016, 12:37:03 pm
Imagine if they ended the show with a cliffhanger and rest of it would be shown in an upcoming GOT movie. Damn..that GOT movie would probably break all sales records.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 01, 2016, 12:40:57 pm
I'd be so pissed if they did that. Unless they started filming before the end of GoT aired that would be a 2 year wait to find out what happens.
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Post by: MacX85 on June 01, 2016, 02:15:26 pm
Imagine if they ended the show with a cliffhanger and rest of it would be shown in an upcoming GOT movie. Damn..that GOT movie would probably break all sales records.

There have been rumors they wanted to do this. But Martin debunked it some time ago.
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Post by: Malaclypse on June 01, 2016, 05:38:06 pm
Bran the Builder and the Night's King may also be one in the same.

Also, GRRM confirmed that Brienne is related to Sir Duncan the Tall at a con this past week.
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Post by: Golem on June 01, 2016, 05:44:21 pm
What did I spoil? Mance had one in the books that wasn't the real one Tarly and Dolorous Edd found this one in the show, which also might not be the real one. But from what I hear we might find out more about the horn in a future episode through Brans visions.

Well... I didn't even know that such a horn existed, until your post.
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Post by: Asheram on June 01, 2016, 05:51:22 pm
Well... I didn't even know that such a horn existed, until your post.
well nothing's happened with it in the books or the show so nothing really spoiled. Sry
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Post by: Malaclypse on June 01, 2016, 05:58:44 pm
Well... I didn't even know that such a horn existed, until your post.

I also couldn't find any indication that anyone- even old Nan- ever mentions the Horn of Winter in the TV show, even only in passing. The horn Sam found in the cache while ranging could well be a dragon horn of old, too (the cache also contains dragonglass, for one, so that seems just as reasonable an idea).
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Post by: Asheram on June 01, 2016, 06:15:52 pm
I also couldn't find any indication that anyone- even old Nan- ever mentions the Horn of Winter in the TV show, even only in passing. The horn Sam found in the cache while ranging could well be a dragon horn of old, too (the cache also contains dragonglass, for one, so that seems just as reasonable an idea).
I forget alot of the show stuff, how does the show explain the presence of the giants?
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Post by: MacX85 on June 01, 2016, 06:53:10 pm
They don't explain anything... Mance said at one point he was able to unite them all because he said they were going to die (meaning the humans as well as giants apparently)
The horn was shown but nothing was said about it.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 01, 2016, 11:01:58 pm
What about Dragonbinder? The Dragon horn? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dragon_horn (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Dragon_horn)

Also what about this giant shit show!? http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Second_siege_of_Meereen (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Second_siege_of_Meereen)

I feel like this could all still happen, but altered due to the show already changing major points in it. For example Barristan is already dead, Victarion has yet to be introduced, no mention of a dragon horn is ever really hinted,  Hizdahr zo Loraq (Dany's slaver husband) is dead, and Dany is off somewhere fuggin around in the desert with some nomads. However I still think there is some possibility to this happening.

Since there is a temporary truce between Meereen and the rest of the slave cities at the moment, yet their is somewhat of an alliance between the other slave cities still, so they will/have been building up their forces to assault the city, and use the truce as a bait. Also I'm not sure if the Slavers know what is happening with Dany or where she is for that, but maybe if they learn of her missing, they will see that as an opportunity to strike. So as far as the actual battle itself, not really sure who would lead that again, maybe Tyrion again like Blackwater? I would say it would be much smaller forces too, mainly just the Unsullied vs the larger force, yet smaller than in the books of the Wise Masters. Dany will at some point show up to save the day with her army of Dothraki and Dragon(s?) to wipe out the enemy army. Not quite sure how they Greyjoys will get mixed up in this yet. It might be just Euron that shows up with his thousand ships that Dany so conveniently needs. As far as the rest of the Greyjoy timeline goes I'm not too sure on that yet. No idea what Theon and Ahsa are going to do, not sure if Dany will kill/use Euron/Greyjoys just for their ships or if she will actually marry Euron.

That's a very loose and dodgy theory of mine. Still not too clear on what I think will happen or if half of that will even happen. But hey imagination if fun!  :D
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Post by: Asheram on June 03, 2016, 01:20:17 am
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 05, 2016, 08:47:22 pm
oh boy has the show gone to shit or what
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Post by: Golem on June 05, 2016, 09:09:01 pm
oh boy has the show gone to shit or what

slowly, much slower than vikings
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Post by: MacX85 on June 05, 2016, 09:41:53 pm
Not at all... the show keeps getting better imho
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Post by: Xant on June 05, 2016, 10:25:26 pm
Not at all... the show keeps getting better imho
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Post by: MacX85 on June 05, 2016, 10:30:59 pm
Good thing we don't all have to have the same opinions...
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 05, 2016, 10:36:25 pm
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Taking real advantage of that new 10 million dollar an episode budget.Nice chainmail you got there.

Loving the Tyrell army of a hundred men aswell. Don't even get me started on the Kingsmoot and Euron.
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Post by: Xant on June 05, 2016, 11:24:42 pm
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Taking real advantage of that new 10 million dollar an episode budget.Nice chainmail you got there.

Loving the Tyrell army of a hundred men aswell. Don't even get me started on the Kingsmoot and Euron.
Yes, what the fuck was the point of that Tyrell army?

.... if all they needed was a hundred guys, couldn't they have used the City Guards or whatever the fuck? Press ganged some hobos of their own off the street? None of it makes sense these days. Not that they ever bothered explaining the power dynamics to the viewers in the TV show. Some hobo monks just arrive and boss around everyone, or something. And the government is powerless to stop it because... well, something or the other, I'm sure there's a good reason.

This season has still been better than last season and all the "what the fuck is even happening" moments it had (e.g., Unsullied getting wrecked by peasants with knives...)
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2016, 12:35:30 am
Not once have we really seen the Unsullied being Unsullied. They all just scatter around getting their anus rekt.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2016, 10:12:59 am
Lyanna Mormont best troll ever. She's the type of girl to fling some snowballs right into Joffrey's, Stannis, Night King's faces and then run away while giggling

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Post by: Xant on June 06, 2016, 12:04:32 pm
Game of Feminism continues its glorious march. A ten year old girl is apparently the de facto leader of men. I thought she'd be someone's puppet, because that's the only plausible explanation, but no, if you're a girl in Game of Thrones you can do anything.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 06, 2016, 01:45:34 pm
Game of Feminism continues its glorious march. A ten year old girl is apparently the de facto leader of men. I thought she'd be someone's puppet, because that's the only plausible explanation, but no, if you're a girl in Game of Thrones you can do anything.

Well I think there's a difference between Lyanna and femichocolate chip cookie rulers/women like Daenerys, Brienne and Yara. Lyanna is still being counseled by others around her and is pretty much like Tommen as a young ruler. Also her Lannister/Bolton comment against Sansa was cool.
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Post by: Xant on June 06, 2016, 01:47:26 pm
She wasn't counseled, she asked for some facts she didn't know. And she was nothing like Tommen.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2016, 02:19:01 pm
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 06, 2016, 05:54:15 pm
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Post by: Xant on June 06, 2016, 05:57:58 pm
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There is nothing girls can't do in this series, man.
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Post by: Asheram on June 06, 2016, 07:32:21 pm
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Does that make you happy or am I missing the sarcasm? Because it pisses me off that they killed him off so quick I like that actor. And they used those corrupted punks bwob. Well at least I hope the hound brutally murders them all.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 06, 2016, 07:48:34 pm
Does that make you happy or am I missing the sarcasm? Because it pisses me off that they killed him off so quick I like that actor. And they used those corrupted punks bwob. Well at least I hope the hound brutally murders them all.

I'm pissed. He is a great actor indeed. Loved him in Deadwood. BUT NOPE. LETS JUST INTRODUCE THIS POTENTIALLY GREAT CHARACTER AND KILL HIM OFF THE SAME EPISODE. THE BROTHERHOOD BETTER HIDE THEIR FUCKING CHICKENS CAUSE THE HOUNDS COMIN'.
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Post by: Asheram on June 06, 2016, 08:42:38 pm
Gjnus can you make me an avatar pic
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like you did with Ser Alistair Thorne?
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 06, 2016, 08:50:38 pm
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Post by: Overdriven on June 06, 2016, 09:23:09 pm
They've had a few more 'famous' actors making cameos recently. Mostly just for an episode as a side character. Seems to be the new thing. Richard E Grant was one of the actors in the play.

Enjoyed the episode, even with a couple of lol scenes. Glad to see the hound make a return, he was always one of the more interesting characters. Ser Davos is awesome as usual. Though Jon and Theon constantly being little bitches compared to Sansa and Yara is getting tiring. Theon I can understand, anybody would be fucked up after what he went through but Jon has no excuse.
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Post by: Gnjus on June 06, 2016, 09:49:12 pm
Gjnus can you make me an avatar pic
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On my way.  :wink:

I'm also a fan of Ian McShane for years, since Lovejoy.  8-)
My favorite chars in shows like this are always these grizzled veterans like Blackfish and Clive Russell is a good choice for that, imposing Scottish presence, loved him in Ripper Street, 13th Warrior and Cracker.  :P
Too bad that awesome characters like Yoren, Jeor Mormont, Alliser Thorne and such have a short lifespan in this show, while pathetic & useless swines & scumbags of all kinds somehow manage to survive longer. I wonder how Blackfish will die, certainly not of old age. The actor is in his 70's same as McShane, who would of thought.
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Post by: Gnjus on June 06, 2016, 09:56:21 pm
Proper quality:

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Post by: Utrakil on June 06, 2016, 10:01:40 pm
Can I call dips on the next one hanging in a noose?
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Post by: Asheram on June 06, 2016, 10:34:44 pm
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thanks man, you need some crpg gold?
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Post by: Gnjus on June 06, 2016, 10:38:16 pm
thanks man, you need some crpg gold?

Since my last proper play was in 2014 I don't think so.  8-)

Maybe the pic is too large for an avatar.  :P
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Post by: Taser on June 06, 2016, 11:56:29 pm
Well at least this was interesting. Hound's back and I expect to see a bunch of dead people and chickens next episode. Dis gonna b gud.

The hound part was more interesting than the whole "mother of dragons" shit the last couple episodes. And while arya walked off the injury (somehow), I'm glad to see her return to the stark persona than trying to fit into the faceless man thing. She didn't fit and it was awkward to have her try.

And finally Theon seems to be returning to Theon rather than Reek with a semblance of a backbone. Gonna see how that goes next episode. Theon had a bunch of shit happening to him so the whole Yara thing doesn't bother me at all since he got fucked up.
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Post by: Xant on June 07, 2016, 12:24:13 am
Theon being a little bitch is completely fine, and Yara is one of the more tolerable female characters, it's just that the dynamic follows the same trend as GoT in general these days. Strong woman in charge of everything, little bitch guy serving her.

That was a super feminist episode from start to finish as always, having a dude admiring how tough Hound is, going on about how it must've taken tons of guys to bring him down, then Hound goes "it was a woman :)", then we see the most unbelievable leader yet (that's saying much since we have Daenerys), a ten year old girl who makes solo decisions about going to war and risking her entire house if it goes to shit, then some Jon-Snow-is-a-bitch-while-Sansa-shows-backbone (holy fuck she's become annoying with her new persona btw), then Arya, our 140cm assassin heroine, survives an attack that should have killed her (surprised by an elite female assassin, of course), then the Yara and Theon scene... only thing that was missing was some glorious Daenerys action. Ah yes, and of course in King's Landing we're being prepared for Margaery saving the day by fooling the hobo monks.
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 07, 2016, 12:29:35 am
TBQH i think its just a Stark trait that they take a billion stab wounds to kill. Robb Stark got blasted by like 5 crossbow bolts and was still gucci until they cut his throat, it took like 9 guys to stab Jon Snow to death, Ned Stark took like 3 arrows to the chest and kept fighting orks until Aragorn showed up, etc etc
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Post by: Taser on June 07, 2016, 12:44:16 am
TBQH i think its just a Stark trait that they take a billion stab wounds to kill. Robb Stark got blasted by like 5 crossbow bolts and was still gucci until they cut his throat, it took like 9 guys to stab Jon Snow to death, Ned Stark took like 3 arrows to the chest and kept fighting orks until Aragorn showed up, etc etc

Wrong fandom m8.

But yeah. I get it. I've complained about the whole "women stronk" meme they got going on in GoT atm. But the Yara/Theon one isn't really an example of it.

I will agree that Sansa is being annoying as well. No real reason why she acts like she does other than the story demands it. No real growth to get to that point. The rapes and abuse sure but in the show there's no real connection to show why she gets stronger in character other than gurl powa.

I also don't know why Arya didn't expect some repercussions for the decision to not kill her target. And then just stumbling through the city bleeding all over. She got knocked off her pedestal real quick.
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Post by: Asheram on June 07, 2016, 12:52:43 am
TBQH i think its just a Stark trait that they take a billion stab wounds to kill. Robb Stark got blasted by like 5 crossbow bolts and was still gucci until they cut his throat, it took like 9 guys to stab Jon Snow to death, Ned Stark took like 3 arrows to the chest and kept fighting orks until Aragorn showed up, etc etc
what happened to Boramir Starks horn?

When is someone going to tell Cersai that it was the Queen of Thorns that poisoned Joffrey? That old bat She has been alive too long and I want to see Ma-Ma err Cersai go ballistic on her.
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Post by: Jona on June 07, 2016, 01:01:29 am
As unbelievable as certain plot points in their arcs may be, Arya, the queen of thorns, and Yara (and the new 10 year old) are definitely the most likable girls/women on the show, and I don't mind rooting for them. Sansa and Dany, however.... ugh. Pure cringe all over their storylines. For all we know the 10 year old leader was straight up asking her advisers what she should do, and then just relayed their message to Sansa/Jon. I guess if you really wanted to look at it with your anti-feminazi glasses on, then it could come across as her just asking them about facts and making the decisions on her own, but I chose to not give a shit either way as it was a fairly entertaining scene in the otherwise-weak Sansa story.
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Post by: Xant on June 07, 2016, 01:09:20 am
For all we know the 10 year old leader was straight up asking her advisers what she should do, and then just relayed their message to Sansa/Jon. I guess if you really wanted to look at it with your anti-feminazi glasses on, then it could come across as her just asking them about facts and making the decisions on her own, but I chose to not give a shit either way as it was a fairly entertaining scene in the otherwise-weak Sansa story.
Uhm, no, she was very clearly not "straight up asking her advisers what she should do and then relaying their message". It was obvious, and even directly stated, that she was only consulting the Maester about the history/current standing of Houses she didn't know of. It could not be more obvious that she was making the big decisions on her own. She consulted no one when making them. She asked the man on her right about how many troops can be gathered (AFTER the decision had been made) and the Maester on her left about the houses (and waved him to be quiet when he tried to influence her decision).

Understanding what you're watching isn't "anti-feminazi glasses."

And how the hell was that little girl likable? She used the most obnoxious tone ever, and just came off as a belligerent child.
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Post by: Taser on June 07, 2016, 01:28:33 am
As unbelievable as certain plot points in their arcs may be, Arya, the queen of thorns, and Yara (and the new 10 year old) are definitely the most likable girls/women on the show, and I don't mind rooting for them. Sansa and Dany, however.... ugh. Pure cringe all over their storylines. For all we know the 10 year old leader was straight up asking her advisers what she should do, and then just relayed their message to Sansa/Jon. I guess if you really wanted to look at it with your anti-feminazi glasses on, then it could come across as her just asking them about facts and making the decisions on her own, but I chose to not give a shit either way as it was a fairly entertaining scene in the otherwise-weak Sansa story.

Yeah those are nice to watch. I didn't much care for the Ayra and the faceless men story arc so I'm glad that's taking a different path. But Xant is right. Even if the girl was cool, she was making decisions without the advisors after ser davos stepped in.

I don't care though because that was an interesting scene.
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Post by: Jona on June 07, 2016, 01:38:18 am
Yeah those are nice to watch. I didn't much care for the Ayra and the faceless men story arc so I'm glad that's taking a different path. But Xant is right. Even if the girl was cool, she was making decisions without the advisors after ser davos stepped in.

I don't care though because that was an interesting scene.

Yeah, all I want to know is who Arya happens to bump into that saves her life... can't think of any other characters that'd be over there, unless Jorah traveled real fast and found an elixir that can both cure his disease and multiple stab wounds at once. Or maybe it'll just be another red priest(ess) who shows up to save the day.
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Post by: Asheram on June 07, 2016, 01:51:59 am
Yeah, all I want to know is who Arya happens to bump into that saves her life... can't think of any other characters that'd be over there, unless Jorah traveled real fast and found an elixir that can both cure his disease and multiple stab wounds at once. Or maybe it'll just be another red priest(ess) who shows up to save the day.
well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.
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Post by: Taser on June 07, 2016, 02:57:29 am
well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.

That'd make sense. Inb4 jorah/dany tho and then it becomes super girl power. I will say for the red priestesses.. they are fucking everywhere.

I do want to see how things go with tyrion and bronn when the whole thing finally works its way over to westeros. Will bronn swing over to tyrion betraying jaime/the lannisters or will he keep his back turned to tyrion?
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Post by: Asheram on June 07, 2016, 03:20:56 am
That'd make sense. Inb4 jorah/dany tho and then it becomes super girl power. I will say for the red priestesses.. they are fucking everywhere.

I do want to see how things go with tyrion and bronn when the whole thing finally works its way over to westeros. Will bronn swing over to tyrion betraying jaime/the lannisters or will he keep his back turned to tyrion?
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 07, 2016, 07:23:36 am
now i'm gonna be honest with you my dudes i only read the first book and got halfway through the second before i got off the bus and then lost it and never looked for another, so idk about any of this "book" stuff but here's some liquid hot fire guesses for you boys:

1. Theons sister whose name i forgot(Myra? Yara?) is gonna go over to Dany like they're sayin but its not gonna work out because the ironborn are savages who rape people on the reg. I think Dany is going to just be all "lol nigga i'm takin ur boats" and we are gonna see a fight of ironborn vs unsullied resulting in ironborn ded rip in cheese with Theon and Theons Sister surviving.

2. The Umbers will betray the Boltons. From what I do know about the Umbers, they definitely dont seem like the type at all to throw in with the Boltons. The Greatjon seemed like an honorable man and his sons did too. I dont understand this 360 that the Karstarks and the Umbers have to where now they are murdering pedophile rapers who like to skin people as well. The Karstarks are bum blasted about their dad getting 360 no scoped by Robb Stark(rest in peace) so they kind of make sense for not supporting the Starks even tho their dad deserved it rofl. So this betrayal of the Umbers during the Snow Bowl 2k16 will result in a victory for the Starks. Ramsey will get away tho because his plot armor is thicker than my dick.

3. Cleganebowl 2k16 will be a massive cock tease. They're gonna show it in promos but its not gonna happen. In either the second to last or the last episode it'll be about to start and then they'll leave it on some cliffhanger(probably a friend the Hound makes along the way betraying him or something).



let me kno what u think
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Post by: Moncho on June 07, 2016, 09:53:49 am
let me kno what u think
1. A woman who just got a Dothraki army (land ironborn pretty much) rejecting the ironborn? Wouldn't make sense at all. Her army is already mostly comprised of "savages who rape people on the reg" in the Dothraki... Besides, when she returns the truce will most likely be broken and they may arrive in the middle of the battle, helping her win it.
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2. Possibly, but my money is on Littlefinger (maybe with the Manderlys) riding in to save the day because Sansa sent him a secret message and he wants some of that.

3. The BWB under Beric was not the same as the guys that we saw last episode, maybe Beric has finally lost himself, or there has been a change of leadership...
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Post by: Overdriven on June 07, 2016, 01:13:30 pm
well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.

That was my theory. The actress will take her in.

Looks like next episode she's on the run again from the preview so she definitely gets fixed up quick.
2. Possibly, but my money is on Littlefinger (maybe with the Manderlys) riding in to save the day because Sansa sent him a secret message and he wants some of that.

Yeah it's already going to be Littlefinger just by the message Sansa sends.
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Post by: Asheram on June 08, 2016, 03:03:10 am
3. The BWB under Beric was not the same as the guys that we saw last episode, maybe Beric has finally lost himself, or there has been a change of leadership...
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 08, 2016, 07:58:09 am
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Post by: Knute on June 08, 2016, 08:19:17 am
let me kno what u think

1. This will probably be in the final episode but I think more likely the Ironborn and Dothraki are both going to arrive in Mereen at the same time. And their arrival will coincide with the Slavers showing up with a big army after breaking the truce with Tyrion, so we'll get a big battle or the resolution of a big battle at the beginning of next season.

2. I don't think the Umbers are going to betray the Boltons but they might run away sooner if Littlefinger and the Vale army show up to tilt the balance. The Umbers already killed Rickon's direwolf and Rickon's probably going to die too since Ramsay has him, so I don't see them switching sides at this point.

3. Agree with you on this one, no Cleganebowl this season or maybe at all.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 08, 2016, 12:48:01 pm
I think a lot of the North Lord's will just stay out of it. They have no love for the Bolton's and will probably wait and see which way things are going rather than pick and choose. Heck if the whole thing is based loosely on the War of the Roses then that would be pretty accurate, especially for the 3rd stages of the War of the Roses, which by this point is actually quite similar to the current setup in GoT.

Seen some crazy Arya theories running around. Some are that Jaqen H'ghar was pretending to be Arya in the last episode as a test of the waif's true intentions. Based on things like Arya not having needle and having all that gold. I would be surprised as it would make little sense but who knows with GoT these days.

Also wtf is up with the Waif. She's supposed to be all faceless man, no motives for killing but she clearly has some ridiculous grudge thing going on with Arya.

I didn't much care for the Ayra and the faceless men story arc so I'm glad that's taking a different path.

Thing is they just wasted what, 2 seasons, with that story arc if they don't follow it through and for absolutely no obvious purpose. I suspect they will continue that one just because dropping it now would have been a massive waste of time.
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Post by: Jona on June 08, 2016, 03:47:41 pm
Seen some crazy Arya theories running around. Some are that Jaqen H'ghar was pretending to be Arya in the last episode as a test of the waif's true intentions. Based on things like Arya not having needle and having all that gold. I would be surprised as it would make little sense but who knows with GoT these days.

Saw that theory as well... my question is that while we know he can obviously change faces, can he also shrink himself? I'm don't recall if we've ever seen a faceless man shrink or grow in size before, since as their name implies, they change faces, not bodies.
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Post by: Teeth on June 08, 2016, 04:05:52 pm
I liked the Jaime scenes in the last episode, I think he is one of the few interesting characters left and despite him becoming more boring, I still have hope that he'll be a selfish badass again. Finally out of the whiny father/lover mode and back to war. Also, Bronn is always fun. The return of Sandor is even better, though I do not really see him doing much more than dying in a violent, but unimportant blaze of glory. Make Game of Thrones great again, bring back the morally questionable badasses.

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Post by: Xant on June 08, 2016, 05:00:14 pm
The real reason GoT got worse is because they got rid of those morally questionable badasses. The plot/cliches might have been as bad in the beginning, I don't really remember, but it wasn't as noticeable when there were tons of great characters. Whom they've steadily been castrating (literally and figuratively) or killing off each season until season 4-5 had almost none left, and their screentime was reduced to almost nothing.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 08, 2016, 05:33:30 pm
I liked the Jaime scenes in the last episode, I think he is one of the few interesting characters left and despite him becoming more boring, I still have hope that he'll be a selfish badass again. Finally out of the whiny father/lover mode and back to war. Also, Bronn is always fun. The return of Sandor is even better, though I do not really see him doing much more than dying in a violent, but unimportant blaze of glory. Make Game of Thrones great again, bring back the morally questionable badasses.

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Yeah I'm not entirely sure why they decided to drag out the Cersei/Jaime romance when in the books he turns his back on her entirely. It made Jaime a lot more interesting in the books. Oddly there seems to be some weirdo's out there who support it despite ya know...incest.

That bath scene with him and Brienne is one of the best character scenes in GoT. But since then he's just been a bit bland.
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Post by: Jona on June 08, 2016, 05:52:48 pm
Agreed, everyone on GoT nowadays is entirely black or white, no longer gray.
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Post by: Jarold on June 08, 2016, 07:49:20 pm
Saw that theory as well... my question is that while we know he can obviously change faces, can he also shrink himself? I'm don't recall if we've ever seen a faceless man shrink or grow in size before, since as their name implies, they change faces, not bodies.

Don't they have to have her face also? Like how they take dead people's faces off to wear them.
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Post by: Jona on June 08, 2016, 07:52:31 pm
Don't they have to have her face also? Like how they take dead people's faces off to wear them.

Well when her mentor drank the poison and she ran over to him and grabbed at his face, it kept changing and eventually she saw her own right before she went blind... so, yes?
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Post by: Beauchamp on June 08, 2016, 10:55:21 pm
The real reason GoT got worse is because they got rid of those morally questionable badasses. The plot/cliches might have been as bad in the beginning, I don't really remember, but it wasn't as noticeable when there were tons of great characters. Whom they've steadily been castrating (literally and figuratively) or killing off each season until season 4-5 had almost none left, and their screentime was reduced to almost nothing.

maybe; the worst part for me though is the script doesn't work logic wise anymore. there are to many stupid scenes lately nobody really believes or things without any explanation. i wonder if the screenplay for this series is written by the same person or if its forcefully adjusted/simplified to appeal to the ever growing mentally retarded part of the population?
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Post by: Asheram on June 09, 2016, 02:45:55 am
Well when her mentor drank the poison and she ran over to him and grabbed at his face, it kept changing and eventually she saw her own right before she went blind... so, yes?
So if his face was Aryas then it would seem he can change size too as he is bigger than her, unless it was a tall her he changed too ;p
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Post by: karasu on June 09, 2016, 08:55:03 pm
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    Regarding Arya, I've seen other theories around that say the Waif is actually Arya herself, in a twisted Fight Club dissociation process, part of a process that would make her finally cut ties with her former self and finally becoming "no one", a faceless man.
This would explain somehow why would a blind girl get beaten in the middle of the day with a wooden stick and no one would give a fuck. Also there's a glimpse of a girl in the last episode, dressed exactly as she was during the play day, which is confusing a lot of people.

I kinda like this theory better, personally.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 09, 2016, 11:38:33 pm
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oh shieeeet you know who it is
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Post by: karasu on June 09, 2016, 11:54:31 pm
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Yep.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 10, 2016, 02:04:37 am
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oh shieeeet you know who it is

Faceless Man will bend the knee
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 10, 2016, 02:18:25 am
Faceless Men. Elite of the elite. Killers of kings. Slayers of emperors. To hire them is to lose a fortune.

They're so good, that a fully trained Faceless (Wo)Man is unable to kill a young girl in three strikes with the element of surprise on her side.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Yeldur on June 10, 2016, 02:43:04 am
Faceless Men. Elite of the elite. Killers of kings. Slayers of emperors. To hire them is to lose a fortune.

They're so good, that a fully trained Faceless (Wo)Man is unable to kill a young girl in three strikes with the element of surprise on her side.
Well, considering your previous points that womyn are invincible in this storyline, doesn't this contradict everything you've been saying? However yeah, it's fucking retarded that she got stabbed three times in the chest and magically not only survives, but continues walking after falling off of a fucking bridge into water.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 10, 2016, 02:57:42 am
Faceless Men. Elite of the elite. Killers of kings. Slayers of emperors. To hire them is to lose a fortune.

They're so good, that a fully trained Faceless (Wo)Man is unable to kill a young girl in three strikes with the element of surprise on her side.

Waif isn't a fully trained faceless man afaik. She just jelly of Arya making faster progress than her. She clearly isn't "no one" yet either because she clearly has a desire to kill Arya for her selfish reasons.
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Post by: Teeth on June 10, 2016, 02:59:33 am
You forget that the young girl is a partly trained Faceless Man, she survived because of her masterful awareness and skill... ...oh wait.

It is seriously like they try their absolute hardest to make any character with supposed legendary ability as much of an anticlimactic let down as possible. It is really starting to bug me. The worst cases are the Unsullied "the finest infantry", Stannis "one of the best commanders in Westeros" and now the Faceless Men. I get that the legends sometimes lose, but how difficult is it to think of a scenario in which they lose with a bit of dignity? Not that difficult, when reading these things in the books I manage it every time.

Well, at least Arthur Dayne died because of a dirty backstab.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 10, 2016, 03:17:16 pm
Well, considering your previous points that womyn are invincible in this storyline, doesn't this contradict everything you've been saying? However yeah, it's fucking retarded that she got stabbed three times in the chest and magically not only survives, but continues walking after falling off of a fucking bridge into water.
Considering I never said women are invincible in this storyline, and that it was a woman who survived the stabbing, and also a woman who did the stabbing... ???? I literally have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.

You forget that the young girl is a partly trained Faceless Man, she survived because of her masterful awareness and skill... ...oh wait.
Yes, how hard would it have been to have Arya actively participate in her fate with elite Faceless Man skills, instead of staring dumbly as she gets stabbed repeatedly, then doing the elite Push Attack, and surviving despite all of it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 12, 2016, 12:41:14 am
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oh shieeeet you know who it is

I see...
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2016, 03:59:57 am
If you visit r/freefolk the guy who leaked the legit stuff from before just confirmed more leaks. Pretty much most of the major last events for this season.

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 12, 2016, 07:12:08 pm
If you visit r/freefolk the guy who leaked the legit stuff from before just confirmed more leaks. Pretty much most of the major last events for this season.

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Well only 3 episodes left. Ep8 and 9 are probably gonna be the big shit and ep10 is just basically ep00 for next season like always. I think I can wait a week to see those 2 main episodes before reading the spoilers kek.

I bet that r/freefolk guy is the dude who plays Lem Lemoncloak. Like I said he looks like a guy who would do that for lulz :D.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 12, 2016, 08:36:28 pm
Well only 3 episodes left. Ep8 and 9 are probably gonna be the big shit and ep10 is just basically ep00 for next season like always. I think I can wait a week to see those 2 main episodes before reading the spoilers kek.

I bet that r/freefolk guy is the dude who plays Lem Lemoncloak. Like I said he looks like a guy who would do that for lulz :D.

Lol maybe. The priest who got hung last week also leaked that Hound would return IIRC.

Many leakers so far.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 12, 2016, 08:48:04 pm
Lol maybe. The priest who got hung last week also leaked that Hound would return IIRC.

Many leakers so far.

He said that in a talk show like thing, didn't specifically mention "The Hound" tho but he made it obvious, weird mistake from a veteran actor.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2016, 12:57:28 am
Hmm leaked episode again? Dayyum. Their security has more holes than Davos' fleet of ships at the bottom of Blackwater Bay.

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Post by: Asheram on June 13, 2016, 04:49:54 am
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 13, 2016, 06:23:31 am
That was the best episode in a while. Only bad thing was Daenerys' Mary Sue arrival. Well, the Arya-Waif part was pretty cringeworthy too (although the obvious lack of athleticism did give me a chuckle, it was like a parody with the music and the "suspense" they were going for... all the Scary Movie chase scene cliches they had were unintentionally funny too), but Bronn and the Hound saved a lot.

Everyone also probably guessed the second they saw that candle in the room that Arya was going to get rid of it and they'd have a lol much blind fight. Don't think GoT's earliest seasons would have had such a cliched and predictable scene.

And then Arya learned, out of nowhere, the time honored "camera angle teleport trick."
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 13, 2016, 09:12:10 am
That was the best episode in a while. Only bad thing was Daenerys' Mary Sue arrival. Well, the Arya-Waif part was pretty cringeworthy too (although the obvious lack of athleticism did give me a chuckle, it was like a parody with the music and the "suspense" they were going for... all the Scary Movie chase scene cliches they had were unintentionally funny too), but Bronn and the Hound saved a lot.

Everyone also probably guessed the second they saw that candle in the room that Arya was going to get rid of it and they'd have a lol much blind fight. Don't think GoT's earliest seasons would have had such a cliched and predictable scene.

And then Arya learned, out of nowhere, the time honored "camera angle teleport trick."

That's weird. A lot of people are saying this is one of the worse ones for this season.

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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 13, 2016, 12:26:51 pm
Was a nice episode overall, Sandor and Jaime are getting more interesting while Daenerys and all the Mereen shit is boring as always.
And maybe an unpopular opinion but; Cersei is also interesting this season.I am curious about what she will do next, since she lost her everything, I expect her to have some clever moves that she will use against the Sparrows.

On Arya I expected some conspiracy shit since her appearance was different(being right handed not having Needle and a new haircut) in last episode, the theories about that being a part of Waif's training made sense. And we can assume Arya partially knows how to use a sword, while Waif only had a butter knife.

And they fucking killed Blackfish what the fuck he was supposed to escape srsly

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Post by: Xant on June 13, 2016, 02:11:45 pm
And we can assume Arya partially knows how to use a sword, while Waif only had a butter knife.
Maybe if Waif hadn't been so busy walking dramatically through the streets for the cameras Arya wouldn't have had a sword
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Zeus_ on June 13, 2016, 04:00:19 pm
Im just excited for a possible full episode of Jon fighting with another army.
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Post by: Renay on June 13, 2016, 05:27:03 pm
Blackfish's death was so anticlimactic... "He's dead"....

One of the more interesting characters in the show...

Edmure's acting was pretty good this episode, I hope he will play a bigger role in the episodes to come, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2016, 05:46:08 pm
And maybe an unpopular opinion but; Cersei is also interesting this season.I am curious about what she will do next, since she lost her everything, I expect her to have some clever moves that she will use against the Sparrows.

Cersei is not clever. She's a dumb bitch who can't see the game more than one step ahead. If Jaime doesn't get to Kings Landing quick, she'll be done.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 13, 2016, 06:06:05 pm
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Post by: Zeus_ on June 13, 2016, 06:29:58 pm
Cersei is not clever. She's a dumb bitch who can't see the game more than one step ahead. If Jaime doesn't get to Kings Landing quick, she'll be done.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2016, 07:09:19 pm
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Post by: Knute on June 13, 2016, 07:30:01 pm
Blackfish's death was so anticlimactic... "He's dead"....

One of the more interesting characters in the show...

Edmure's acting was pretty good this episode, I hope he will play a bigger role in the episodes to come, but I doubt it.

He was really good in the first season of Outlander too but I can't recommend that show, too much rape!
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: karasu on June 13, 2016, 07:32:45 pm
Hmmm tit smashing.


It was an episode of several highs and lows, almost no middle ground, and that's bollocks.

That terminator chase with those awkward "stop to death stare" moments was so silly. And fuck me sideways, but I just can't stop to cringe at every Emilia Clarke airtime.
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Post by: Tristan_of_Erzoth on June 13, 2016, 07:40:18 pm
i'm getting real sick of every major character dying off camera. did they forget how to do sword fights or fight scenes in general? If they die on screen its just a knife to the gut. Stannis, Blackfish, and Waif all die off screen. The Martells, Roose, all those my old friends at the Martells, just get stabbed in the tum tum and thats it.
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Post by: Asheram on June 13, 2016, 07:44:46 pm
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Post by: Vibe on June 13, 2016, 07:47:45 pm
That terminator chase with those awkward "stop to death stare" moments was so silly. And fuck me sideways, but I just can't stop to cringe at every Emilia Clarke airtime.

Word, that whole Arya chasing scene was what the fuck. And then in comes Daeneris to complete the cringe dose for the week.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2016, 08:00:50 pm
And then in comes Daeneris to complete the cringe dose for the week.

At least she didn't have a speech this time... Tbh Cersei is worse cringe for me nowadays. She really is stupid as fuck. Acting all smug and shit when everyone knows she has no fucking clue what she's gonna do next.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 13, 2016, 08:33:33 pm
The Blackfish situation was fucking dumb. Are the Tully men really that moronic? As far as I understood it the Blackfish is a respected, proven and liked commander. I find it hard to believe they'd turn on him like that in the face of the siege.

The hound just makes this episode though. One of the best characters in the show. 'Drop that arrow you girl'.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 13, 2016, 09:55:32 pm
How did people expect to see the Arya vs Waif fight if it happened in complete darkness?  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 13, 2016, 09:56:49 pm
some moans idk
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 13, 2016, 10:07:56 pm
How did people expect to see the Arya vs Waif fight if it happened in complete darkness?  :rolleyes:
Are you making fun of the TV show for being dumb? I sure hope so. Because there are literally dozens of examples of letting the audience see what's happening while the people fighting are in "complete darkness."
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 13, 2016, 10:50:39 pm
Are you making fun of the TV show for being dumb? I sure hope so. Because there are literally dozens of examples of letting the audience see what's happening while the people fighting are in "complete darkness."
No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 13, 2016, 11:25:38 pm
No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.

Idk why Waif should have died on camera. The scene played out quite nicely as it was.

Though then again we had this in season 4. Dat sword through the neck and out the mouth. Probably my favorite death scene:

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Post by: Overdriven on June 13, 2016, 11:34:05 pm
The bit that amused me with the Arya segment was the fact she slid under that wagon, all hunky dory all good. Nope she has to do something even more extreme to open her wound again.

Maybe she was still high on opium so didn't notice who knows.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 13, 2016, 11:39:40 pm
Waif survived and will appear at the last episode in the show and will kill Arya. The End.
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Post by: karasu on June 13, 2016, 11:41:14 pm
Idk why Waif should have died on camera. The scene played out quite nicely as it was.

Though then again we had this in season 4. Dat sword through the neck and out the mouth. Probably my favorite death scene:


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Post by: Taser on June 13, 2016, 11:58:09 pm
Gonna echo what people already said. Arya should have torn open her stictches much earlier than when she actually did. She also shouldn't have been able to run and jump along as well as she did. Then she was just fine at the end. Much ado about nothing apparently.

And looks like the Ironborn showing up to help save the day at meereen will come true. Dragons fucking up ships and people might be interesting if they show any actual fighting.

Blackfish dying off screen was a fucking smack in the face to everyone. Some bullshit there. I also am not sure why the guards allowed themselves to throw down their arms if they were going to follow the blackfish's orders to fight to the death before. Not like there was any indication they were ready to mutiny or had discontent within the ranks to turn coat against the blackfish.

Its going to be entertaining the next couple episodes but damn so much shit to wallow through to get to anything good.

Cersei is not clever. She's a dumb bitch who can't see the game more than one step ahead. If Jaime doesn't get to Kings Landing quick, she'll be done.

Yeah she doesn't think ahead. She thinks she's clever but she consistently fucks up and it burns her multiple times. Look at the faith militant. she does that to get back at the Tyrells then get tangled up in it and has to do the walk of atonement. She didn't even think it could affect her for some reason. She is just that dumb.

But at least King's Landing should be interesting pretty soon.
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Post by: Xant on June 14, 2016, 12:13:19 am
No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.
Here is just one, popular example:

https://youtu.be/rDuetklFtDQ?t=148
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: vipere on June 14, 2016, 12:24:24 am
so, no one is talking about this great scene with Tyrion and the 2 side characters telling jokes ?

best scene, they should do an episode where every single character from the story tell a joke.

And they missed the blackfish fartjoke before his death ! tsss

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Post by: Bittersteel on June 14, 2016, 12:28:39 am
I may have attracted some sort of STD when the dragon bitch entered the room.
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Post by: Taser on June 14, 2016, 12:33:36 am
so, no one is talking about this great scene with Tyrion and the 2 side characters telling jokes ?

best scene, they should do an episode where every single character from the story tell a joke.

And they missed the blackfish fartjoke before his death ! tsss

True. Was a good scene. Those 2 finally loosened up a bit then bam the city comes under siege. Maybe they'll never tell a joke again.
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Post by: Macropus on June 14, 2016, 02:06:22 am
Here is just one, popular example:

https://youtu.be/rDuetklFtDQ?t=148
Well, that doesn't look like darkness.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 14, 2016, 08:05:28 am
The Blackfish's death goes along with the theme that these old, proud men have no place in the world, and will die arguably meaningless deaths.

Real men like Blackfish, Stannis, Roose, Ned, Robert etc... all die like flies.

Only real man left is Randyll Tarly.
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Post by: Jarold on June 14, 2016, 08:08:05 am
Cleganebowl fucking unconfirmed this episode!
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 14, 2016, 10:06:56 am
Only real man left is Randyll Tarly.

what about Dondarrion, The Hound, Jorah, Davos?

wotofok m8
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 14, 2016, 10:08:26 am
what about Dondarrion, The Hound, Jorah, Davos?

wotofok m8

Jorah is pussy whipped. But by real man I'm talking about someone like Stannis or Roose or Tywin or Ned who takes control and leads his family and acts like a man.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 14, 2016, 11:14:10 am
Well, that doesn't look like darkness.
are you literally deaf
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 14, 2016, 12:22:08 pm
GoT best show and Dany my favourite character she must get the throbe cus she is so cute <3<3>3
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 14, 2016, 12:56:47 pm
Jorah is pussy whipped. But by real man I'm talking about someone like Stannis or Roose or Tywin or Ned who takes control and leads his family and acts like a man.

They all died like idiots though.

Stannis decides to fight an unwinnable battle. Roose actually bloody trusts his fucked up son. Tywin was too big headed to even consider his family might turn on him after years of abuse and Ned was naive.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 14, 2016, 12:59:45 pm
Only flawed heroes survive. GRRM making a point to kill off any character reminiscent of a classic hero.
More like only women survive. What's flawed about Brienne? She's literally the most unrealistically knightlike character in the entire series. She gets a pass though because she's a woman, Mary Sueing her way through dozens of situations she has no right to survive.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 14, 2016, 01:15:28 pm
Well, GRRM even directly states it in GoT, so fair enough: "all men must die", valar morghulis.

Best ultra feminist show ever, hiding in plain sight
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Son Of Odin on June 14, 2016, 04:06:49 pm
Yeah she doesn't think ahead. She thinks she's clever but she consistently fucks up and it burns her multiple times. Look at the faith militant. she does that to get back at the Tyrells then get tangled up in it and has to do the walk of atonement. She didn't even think it could affect her for some reason. She is just that dumb.

But at least King's Landing should be interesting pretty soon.

Yup and her power over people was mainly because everyone was afraid of papa Tywin. The only reason anyone ever tolerated her temper tantrums.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 14, 2016, 07:25:30 pm
Mhm...I changed my mind about the episode. It wasn't that bad. Probably a solid 7/10 from me.

Just disliked how they handled the Arya getting stabbed and magically surviving, Terminator Waif, Jaqen doing nothing after Arya left and killed Waifu, and no LSH/Cleganebowl confirmed.
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Post by: Torben on June 15, 2016, 12:51:51 am
It was an episode of several highs and lows, almost no middle ground, and that's bollocks
That terminator chase with those awkward "stop to death stare" moments was so silly. And fuck me sideways, but I just can't stop to cringe at every Emilia Clarke airtime.


pretty much this.  Dragon chick entering and terminator waif killed the ep fo me.


I wonder if they started letting women do the writing for the last couple of episodes.  South park did that once and it turned out the worsed episode ever,  this shit is unbareable.
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Post by: Xant on June 15, 2016, 02:25:12 am

I wonder if they started letting women do the writing for the last couple of episodes.  South park did that once and it turned out the worsed episode ever,  this shit is unbareable.

No.
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Post by: Zeus_ on June 15, 2016, 06:00:05 am
So if Cersei DOES set Kings Landing ablaze and Tommen dies, who becomes king?
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Post by: Vibe on June 15, 2016, 09:16:03 am
So if Cersei DOES set Kings Landing ablaze and Tommen dies, who becomes king?

Dumbledore
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Post by: Leesin on June 15, 2016, 10:16:58 am
I like Brienne, she is one of the very few female characters I actually do like now. Her story line is fairly simple, but I feel the actor and the character portrayed fit so well, her simple story line is enjoyable considering we already have had and still have so many wild story lines going on, with some of them being just annoying rather than enjoyable. Sure, she has survived a lot of situations, but there aren't exactly any I have felt she needed to die at, it has felt believable enough that I don't think to myself "She should defintiely be dead now". I also don't want to walk out of the room when she appears onscreen unlike the ridiculous plot armour Queen whose story line went stale and boring multiple seasons ago even though they tried to make it seem "epic".
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 15, 2016, 10:21:39 am
Aslan of Narnia for the throne.
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Post by: Torben on June 15, 2016, 10:47:14 am
I like Brienne, she is one of the very few female characters I actually do like now. Her story line is fairly simple, but I feel the actor and the character portrayed fit so well, her simple story line is enjoyable considering we already have had and still have so many wild story lines going on, with some of them being just annoying rather than enjoyable. Sure, she has survived a lot of situations, but there aren't exactly any I have felt she needed to die at, it has felt believable enough that I don't think to myself "She should defintiely be dead now". I also don't want to walk out of the room when she appears onscreen unlike the ridiculous plot armour Queen whose story line went stale and boring multiple seasons ago even though they tried to make it seem "epic".

yo pretty much.  She is just this not hot chick who would love to love but aint hot enough so she devotes herself to whatever causes, cause, you need a cause, eh?
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2016, 11:32:59 am
So if Cersei DOES set Kings Landing ablaze and Tommen dies, who becomes king?

In the line of succession, it's a bit of a dilemma. But a legitimized Gendry, Jon Starkgaryen or Young Griff among the guys would be legit contenders.
Among the women there's only the Dragon Whore (because if Tommen dies I'm assuming Margaery does too).

But I'm guessing it's gonna be Cersei through force or the High Sparrow and the Faith.
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Post by: Leesin on June 15, 2016, 03:34:00 pm
yo pretty much.  She is just this not hot chick who would love to love but aint hot enough so she devotes herself to whatever causes, cause, you need a cause, eh?

She probably has a clit like a dick, but she is a cool character none the less.
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Post by: Malaclypse on June 15, 2016, 06:50:58 pm
Yeah I think out of all the "strong wimmen" on the show, Brienne's character makes the most sense and is the most consistent. She's related to Ser Duncan the Tall, who was pretty much the most chivalrous bro in the Seven Kingdoms and one of the most famous knights in the history of Westeros, so the fact that she'd aspire to be like him in terms of honorable conduct isn't surprising.
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Post by: Xant on June 15, 2016, 07:37:22 pm
It's not that her aspirations are weird, it's that anyone else trying to be chivalrous gets murderfucked by GRRM to show that "honor is dead." Unless a woman is doing it.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 15, 2016, 10:14:37 pm
Personally out of all women in the show, only ones I seriously dislike (in a please GTFO from the show way) is Daenerys, Yara and Brienne. Got no problems with any others because they don't go as over the top cringy alpha fail macho as they do and try to emasculate everyone around them as these ones.

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Post by: Jarold on June 16, 2016, 07:23:20 am
Personally out of all women in the show, only ones I seriously dislike (in a please GTFO from the show way) is Daenerys, Yara and Brienne. Got no problems with any others because they don't go as over the top cringy alpha fail macho as they do and try to emasculate everyone around them as these ones.

I think Brienne deserves some credit due to her size at least. She's not that cringe worthy either, I mean she's butt ugly so she's gotta be chivalrous or else no one would think about going to bed with her.

I mean, that woman would cut half the people on this forum down before they could lick the cheeto dust off their fingers!
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Post by: Xant on June 16, 2016, 06:59:15 pm
I think Brienne deserves some credit due to her size at least. She's not that cringe worthy either, I mean she's butt ugly so she's gotta be chivalrous or else no one would think about going to bed with her.

I mean, that woman would cut half the people on this forum down before they could lick the cheeto dust off their fingers!
Yes, except no. What does her size have to do with anything? She's obviously not athletic, and not even considerably taller than the average man. The show does try to play it off as omg wow she so big that is where all her powurs come from, but it doesn't make any sense.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 16, 2016, 10:24:16 pm
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/16/game-thrones-battle-bastards-preview?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/06/16/game-thrones-battle-bastards-preview?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter)

Look at all dem extras! Same guy that directed Hardhome as well!

Jon's battles have been rather well done IMO. Crasters Keep was good, Battle of Castle Black was awesome, Hardhome was awesome. I oozing out my tip waiting for this battle! I feel like they are going to pull out all of the stops for this cinematography wise, scale wise, choreography wise, etc.
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Post by: Jarold on June 17, 2016, 04:30:02 am
Yes, except no. What does her size have to do with anything? She's obviously not athletic, and not even considerably taller than the average man. The show does try to play it off as omg wow she so big that is where all her powurs come from, but it doesn't make any sense.

Haha, you're right. I haven't read the books, but is she BIG in the books?
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Post by: Asheram on June 17, 2016, 04:48:42 am
Haha, you're right. I haven't read the books, but is she BIG in the books?
yes
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Post by: Xant on June 17, 2016, 06:12:28 am
Haha, you're right. I haven't read the books, but is she BIG in the books?
She's 10 cm taller in the books, and much heavier.

But you have to keep in mind that the series is written by a fat man who wouldn't know what athleticism is if it hit him in the head. He uses "tall and heavy" as indicators of who's the toughest. Brienne's body type would be far from optimal for a female warrior, but GRRM uses height almost as the de facto indicator of fighting skill in the series (to an almost fetishist extent, with the Mountain being 240cm and the Hound being 220cm, Brienne being 200cm, Jaime 195, etc).
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2016, 10:09:44 am
No Winds Of Winter this year I'd bet (lazy fuck) and next season in a year.

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Also lmao...

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 17, 2016, 02:25:55 pm
No Winds Of Winter this year I'd bet (lazy fuck) and next season in a year.

FeelsBadMan

Or maybe it will be sooner if George has this guy's help

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 17, 2016, 03:06:42 pm
That's hax.

Also found this on google lol.

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Post by: Overdriven on June 17, 2016, 08:12:39 pm
Just saw the preview. If Jon Snow loses I will be bloody raging.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 17, 2016, 08:14:40 pm
I hope he loses and the entire fucking army gets destroyed. If the most experienced battle commander in Westeros (alongside with Randyll, I guess) loses with a professional army, a cunt like Jon won't win with wildlings.
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Post by: Macropus on June 18, 2016, 01:37:01 pm
So I had a weird dream this night, like I was watching the very last episode of GoT.
I'll try to describe it as well as I can, so careful for spoilers!

Big epic battle between the living and the dead somewhere, Jon Snow leading people in battle and they kinda wreck the wights and WWs. Then, when it's almost done, the Night King appears and Jon goes to duel him. Night King uses dual swords for some reason and fights similarly to Dayne. He catches Jon between his blades, picks him up with it and slams into the ground, piercing him through afterwards. Jon screams as Night King's face transforms into John's. Margery, picks up a valyrian steel mace lying nearby (I'm sure I saw someone fighting with it before), and runs, screaming, towards them. I remember wondering who she is gonna hit - Jon or the Night King with Jon's face. But the king waves his hand as Margery approaches, and she falls dead.
Then, from afar, a huge writing "Конец" which is "The end" in Russian comes closer, bowls Jon's and Margery's bodies away and stands in the center of the screen.
Then I watch the preview to the next episode (nevermind that it was supposed to be the last episode, it's a dream), and I see a bunch of tied up rose branches magically walking the road somewhere, crying with Margery's voice. She stumbles upon naked Jon and Melisandre who take her to Melisandre's secret base with computers and stuff, somewhere in the woods. Jon says something about his survival, but I don't remember what it was. Then I saw Tormund sitting on the iron throne, trying to decide what to do next.

So here it is. Should I contact HBO to become a script writer?


PS: I wasn't drunk before, in process or after the dream, mind you.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 18, 2016, 02:15:48 pm
Only if you tell us who is the most Russian GOT character in the show (Besides Stannis)
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Post by: Macropus on June 18, 2016, 02:17:37 pm
Only if you tell us who is the most Russian GOT character in the show (Besides Stannis)
Roose Bolton = Vladimir Putin. It is known.
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Post by: Moncho on June 18, 2016, 02:29:58 pm
So when will uncle Vlad get poisoned by his enemies?
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Post by: Macropus on June 18, 2016, 02:31:28 pm
So when will uncle Vlad get poisoned by his enemies?
Afaik he only has daughters. Smart man.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 18, 2016, 03:04:44 pm
Afaik he only has daughters. Smart man.

He sounds like Craster too
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Post by: Angantyr on June 18, 2016, 03:07:28 pm
I have also always half-expected Daenarys to eventually give in to her Targaryen madness, at least in the book series.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 19, 2016, 11:46:19 pm
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 20, 2016, 04:37:13 am
I almost shit my pants when Lord Umbar was beating on my love Tormund. Thought I was gunna lose him! Fucking awesome episode. Not gunna type out a giant post on why it was awesome because I'm tired as fug. I'll just wait patiently and read the inevitable misogynist posts and the critic on really small and petty things lmao

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Post by: Xant on June 20, 2016, 08:22:25 am
Are they seriously not going to address how Daenerys can suddenly control her dragon(s) completely and utterly, and apparently telepathically give them orders? They went from "wow they breathe fire when daenerys says the word" to "they won't take her commands at all" to "perfect mind control over all three" without any transition.

I mean, that seems pretty important to me, considering the dragons are her major wild card...
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 09:18:44 am
Best part:

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Post by: Xant on June 20, 2016, 09:23:46 am
Pretty good episode, minus Yet Another Daenerys Is Triumphant moment, Sansa scenes (she's really fucking intolerable these days, not to mention straight out evil apparently, not telling Jon about the Vale army...), and the Girl Power Yara/Daenerys scene.

I really fucking hope the show doesn't play Sansa's withholding of information as something epic and great. She got thousands of people killed, lied to Jon, possibly also got her little brother killed. Hopefully in the next episode she's called to account for it, but somehow I doubt it.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 09:31:19 am
Yeah wtf Sansa with her smug face when she arrived with Littlefinger. Did she not see her little brother getting rekt?

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 10:31:03 am
Pretty good episode. Although (maybe I'm in the minority of this) thinks Battle for Castle Black was the best battle in the show so far.
Also I guess fitting ending to Ramsay but would've liked to see Jon did it the northern way and cut his head off.

And RIP King Rickon. I guess it was obvious since neither Sansa nor Jon or anyone else could rule if he was still alive.

And wtf. Wun Wun...damn there goes the last of the giants. Unless there's giant babies somewhere.

Finally, I had to skip the entire Meereeen scene. So fucking cringeworthy. I mean Sansa was a bit annoying with her smug face when seeing Jon and friends get wrecked (even though the Vale relief force arrived) but man....Daenerys? Ugh
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 10:50:45 am
Well Tyrion was there to lessen the cringe. His parts were pretty good and the dragons looked epic. I just get cringe chills every time Dany says "Drogon" and the dragon roflstomps everything.

Battle for Castle Black was good but this episode had some very nice fighting as well. Jon's plot armor was thick though. I was convinced he'd die in that first cavalry charge. I guess that's job well done though. Made me really fear for the worst even if I kind of knew he was not going to die. After that it was some sort of meta plot armor parody for a while with the horses colliding just before hitting Jon and people getting smashed just as they were gonna hit Jon.

Still Castle Black was better for Jon not being such an emo bitch all the time. Took control of the situation and commanded the battle to victory.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 10:55:11 am
Just read this. Please tell me it's not true. Gonna be so awkwardly cringey even though it was GRRMs original plans.

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 11:01:37 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 11:07:27 am
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 11:09:13 am
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Post by: Moncho on June 20, 2016, 11:09:53 am
As per the dragons, I agree with Xant, but they possibly will explain it with something like Drogon being the alpha and the others following its lead. Since Dany controls Drogon then the others follow her too. But yeah, seeing her was horrible, can she do anything other than smirk when she is on screen? Particularly when she is with Tyrion and the wall breaks, Tyrion reacts, she just keeps her mask on...

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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 20, 2016, 11:15:54 am
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Funnily enough I was gonna post this gif next even before reading that:
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Post by: Moncho on June 20, 2016, 11:20:39 am
Also there was one moment when Jon was fighting with horsemen all around, no way to know friend or foe, and arrows everywhere that brought me back to EU1. Loved it.
And wtf were the Boltons doing with pretty much an early Tercio? The shields and pikes felt very out of place imo.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 11:33:10 am
Damn incest lovers and gays everywhere. PLEASE HELP US HIGH SPARROW

#HighSparrow4President
#AllSinnersMustRepent
#TheFaithRox
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 20, 2016, 11:44:41 am
As per the dragons, I agree with Xant, but they possibly will explain it with something like Drogon being the alpha and the others following its lead. Since Dany controls Drogon then the others follow her too.
But they don't explain how she controls Drogon. They show her teaching Drogon to breathe fire on command. That's like teaching a dog to "sit." Then they show Drogon going absolutely out of control and doing nothing Daenerys wants him to do. Then they show Daenerys having perfect mind control over Drogon, having him go precisely where she wants him to, do precisely what she wants him, etc., etc. It's like if you had a puppy Doberman, you teach it how to sit, then it goes fucking crazy, and next time you see it is when it's an adult and suddenly it's reciting Shakespeare and doing your dishes for you just because you make eye contact.

And the thing is, they made a really big deal out of the dragons being out of control, and not controllable. There were a whole bunch of scenes about how it'd be possible/impossible to train them.

And then they just go "fuck it, Daenerys is magical."
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 12:04:41 pm
But they don't explain how she controls Drogon. They show her teaching Drogon to breathe fire on command. That's like teaching a dog to "sit." Then they show Drogon going absolutely out of control and doing nothing Daenerys wants him to do. Then they show Daenerys having perfect mind control over Drogon, having him go precisely where she wants him to, do precisely what she wants him, etc., etc. It's like if you had a puppy Doberman, you teach it how to sit, then it goes fucking crazy, and next time you see it is when it's an adult and suddenly it's reciting Shakespeare and doing your dishes for you just because you make eye contact.

And the thing is, they made a really big deal out of the dragons being out of control, and not controllable. There were a whole bunch of scenes about how it'd be possible/impossible to train them.

And then they just go "fuck it, Daenerys is magical."

Yeah but ur trying to make sense about a character that doesn't make sense. GRRM said Targareyns are not resistant to fire and the end of season 1 was just an one time thing. It was magic.

But D&D said fuck that in the recent season when she was with the Dothraki and made her fire resistant.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 20, 2016, 12:23:27 pm
Rest in peace, Ramsay Bolton, rightful Lord of Winterfell and Warden of the North. He was a great tactician and commander in the field of battle, unfortunately he got betrayed by his wife,ancient houses that call themselves "honored", and bastard deserter Jon Snow.

The North will never forget the betrayal against Boltons. Our blades are sharp.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2016, 02:48:27 pm
As much as Ramsey is a dick it's almost a shame because that's yet another interesting character gone.

Still kinda irritating that naturally it has to be girl power that saves the day yet again.
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Post by: Jona on June 20, 2016, 03:49:56 pm
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Nah man, you just don't get it... flying a dragon is even easier than flying an airplane and comes naturally to all Targgorillas. You know those spikes on his neck that she always grabs onto? Little-known fact, they're a couple of joysticks. Duh.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 20, 2016, 04:13:31 pm
Replace Jon with Stannis and Vale knights with Manderly knights = Orgasm

Ofcourse Stannis wouldn't be so rofl stomped. Honestly, was I the only one really annoyed at the headless charging by Jon? Is he fucking retarded? Buu huu, my brother died, let's take on 6000 men by myself.

Still, I liked the episode, especially when the Vale showed up, I literally had some sort of climax and giggled like a little school girl.
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Post by: Weren on June 20, 2016, 05:31:57 pm
What bothered me was how quickly everyone died and how nobody in the initial fight seemed to have arsed to bring a shield to the battle. Also the massive mountains of corpses seemed unreasonable and Jon's plot armour was showing a bit too much. Also it looked like there was far less troops in the battle than 2000 vs 6000.

I actually liked the scene at the end where the spears were closing in and Jon's troops got really clamped together.
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Post by: Zeus_ on June 20, 2016, 05:52:00 pm
I like how Sansa was standing in the tent the whole time while the battle plans were being made but she decided to wait until the end to complain to Jon that nobody's listening to her  :?
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Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 20, 2016, 05:59:02 pm
What bothered me was how quickly everyone died and how nobody in the initial fight seemed to have arsed to bring a shield to the battle. Also the massive mountains of corpses seemed unreasonable and Jon's plot armour was showing a bit too much. Also it looked like there was far less troops in the battle than 2000 vs 6000.

I actually liked the scene at the end where the spears were closing in and Jon's troops got really clamped together.

I don't think it was plot armour, I think that's him being blessed by the fire god dude. He won't die until the god decides it's time.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 20, 2016, 06:37:29 pm
What the fuck was up with those 20ft body piles?
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Post by: Vibe on June 20, 2016, 06:37:56 pm
Overall the episode was great but yet again we get cringe inducing scenes with our beloved lady heroes blond-smirk-face-chick and orange-smirk-face-chick. At least Yara is less annoying than those two, gotta respect that brute lesbo power.

Other than that everything else was already mentioned:
- thanks sansa for telling about your secret backup army
- that fucking huge pile of corpses lel, I guess someone mid battle decided to tidy up the battlefield?
- doneryz with her super control of her otherwise wild dragons, by now i think she's controlling them with her stupid ass smirk, people, dragons and everything alike falter to that smirk and stop raping instantly.
- girl power continues across all continents of GoT
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Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2016, 08:33:41 pm
Rewatched it. Definitely one of the best episodes in a long long time. Even if there was a serious amount of plot armour and ride of the Rohirrim to boot.

Jon Snow has like no army left now though. Will he suddenly pull Stark men out of his arse. Otherwise, he's going to be consolidating his rule for quite a few years.

What the fuck was up with those 20ft body piles?

- that fucking huge pile of corpses lel, I guess someone mid battle decided to tidy up the battlefield?

I'm glad someone else noticed that. That really irked me that they go from fighting in an open field to suddenly having these random, neatly piled stacks of bodies.
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Post by: Taser on June 20, 2016, 08:49:42 pm
Definitely an entertaining episode but damn if Sansa isn't becoming an ice queen. Smirking as her brother and his army is being destroyed. I assume she did this in order to ensure Jon wouldn't have much to work with when she makes sure she has winterfell not him. I'd like to see a Jon vs Sansa war but I don't think it'll last long nor do I see Jon trying to do it. North is united and any more casualties would be wasteful. He'd want to put whatever's left towards the Night King and consolidating power.

Tyrion doing his business as usual. I do want to know what the hell they were going to do if the dragons were hit as they were flying stationary in the air while surrounded by floating catapult ships.

No mention of King's Landing but that'll be all episode 10 I assume. Wunderbar.
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Post by: Jona on June 20, 2016, 09:27:24 pm
Definitely an entertaining episode but damn if Sansa isn't becoming an ice queen. Smirking as her brother and his army is being destroyed. I assume she did this in order to ensure Jon wouldn't have much to work with when she makes sure she has winterfell not him. I'd like to see a Jon vs Sansa war but I don't think it'll last long nor do I see Jon trying to do it. North is united and any more casualties would be wasteful. He'd want to put whatever's left towards the Night King and consolidating power.

Tyrion doing his business as usual. I do want to know what the hell they were going to do if the dragons were hit as they were flying stationary in the air while surrounded by floating catapult ships.

No mention of King's Landing but that'll be all episode 10 I assume. Wunderbar.

I was really hoping that the season would end with Cersei walking around a burning king's landing, and she would stumble upon Jaime as he returned home only to find his son Tommen burnt to a crisp. He asks her who did this and she says "me" at which point he takes care of her the same way he took care of the mad king. That, or maybe he gets back to king's landing to put a stop to the burning right before it happens, just like he did all those years ago. The previous episodes kept reminding us that "everything he does is for his one true love" so it'd be nice to see him finally realize she's a demonspawn and put an end to her madness. Based on the preview for next week's episode it unfortunately seems like Jaime will randomly be chilling with the Freys instead... can only hope that maybe the finale ends with King's Landing in flames and then episode 1 opens with him arriving.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 09:39:09 pm
I'd rather see it end with either the Wall falling down or Tower Of Joy ending being shown to end this season.
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Post by: Leesin on June 20, 2016, 09:47:59 pm
Anyone else think it looks like Sansa is going to become another plot armour queen and everything is going to be ruled by Women now? like seriously wtf, she sat there smirking because she knows it was her that saved the day, every fucking major turn seems to be favouring the women, without a doubt she will use that to gain power. It seemed fucking retarded for Jon Snow to mindlessly charge like that, he does have a rage to his character but over the seasons I felt he had become quite smart, even after Sansa warning him and saying Rickon is pretty much dead anyway, yet he just stupidly charges into that army bringing his army with him, it's like they have to suddenly make the men dumber and the women smarter. Plus when they all just stand there and let themselves get surrounded by that lame shield-pikewall, the battle was pretty cool up until then, then it became a cringe fest, with that wall of corpses.

I love GoT but the TV show feels like it is suddenly being written by feminists who are edging a little on the femi-chocolate chip cookie side.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2016, 09:48:25 pm
Doubt we will see Tower of Joy as Bran doesn't have a tree at the moment.

Still to early for the wall as well. I don't want to give any more excuses for Daenrys to save the day. If they do it now it will be timed for her to make her glorious return to Westeros and hand the whitewalkers arses to them.

Though I suspect they will still finish with a Daenry's glorious moment. Probably setting sail with dragon's flying overhead.

Anyone else think it looks like Sansa is going to become another plot armour queen and everything is going to be ruled by Women now? like seriously wtf, she sat there smirking because she knows it was her that saved the day, every fucking major turn seems to be favouring the women, without a doubt she will use that to gain power. It seemed fucking retarded for Jon Snow to mindlessly charge like that, he does have a rage to his character but over the seasons I felt he had become quite smart, even after Sansa warning him and saying Rickon is pretty much dead anyway, yet he just stupidly charges into that army bringing his army with him, it's like they have to suddenly make the men dumber and the women smarter. Plus when they all just stand there and let themselves get surrounded by that lame shield-pikewall, the battle was pretty cool up until then, then it became a cringe fest, with that wall of corpses.

I love GoT but the TV show feels like it is suddenly being written by feminists who are edging a little on the femi-chocolate chip cookie side.

Yup considering his pretty well planned defence of the wall against the wildlings, the fact he saw Ygritte die and didn't go nuts it was all just a planned setup for more girl power.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 10:07:17 pm
Doubt we will see Tower of Joy as Bran doesn't have a tree at the moment.



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Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2016, 10:23:13 pm
Well guess Bran might pull a tree out his arse then!
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Post by: Jona on June 20, 2016, 10:40:02 pm
Well guess Bran might pull a tree out his arse then!

I think he was sitting at the base of a weirwood in the preview, iirc. Also I guess that'd be a good "wow!" moment to end the season on for all the non-book readers out there, but for us who have known it's been coming for years it just doesn't seem like last-shot-of-the-season-worthy material. Unless something big goes down at Kings Landing next week, I feel like the finale is gonna be really weak, there just isn't much else that they can touch upon for most of the character arcs after what already happened last episode. The best thing I can think of would be the Ironborn meeting up with Dany (and the fighting that would ensue), but not only would I much rather never see her again, I feel like they'd rather save that for next season.
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Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on June 20, 2016, 10:47:47 pm
Anyone else think it looks like Sansa is going to become another plot armour queen and everything is going to be ruled by Women now? like seriously wtf, she sat there smirking because she knows it was her that saved the day, every fucking major turn seems to be favouring the women, without a doubt she will use that to gain power. It seemed fucking retarded for Jon Snow to mindlessly charge like that, he does have a rage to his character but over the seasons I felt he had become quite smart, even after Sansa warning him and saying Rickon is pretty much dead anyway, yet he just stupidly charges into that army bringing his army with him, it's like they have to suddenly make the men dumber and the women smarter. Plus when they all just stand there and let themselves get surrounded by that lame shield-pikewall, the battle was pretty cool up until then, then it became a cringe fest, with that wall of corpses.

I love GoT but the TV show feels like it is suddenly being written by feminists who are edging a little on the femi-chocolate chip cookie side.

Also if Wun Wun could tank all those arrows after breaking the door down at Winterfell why didn't he just charge through the wall and get the rest to follow, shieldwall broken. GG.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 20, 2016, 10:49:51 pm
Also if Wun Wun could tank all those arrows after breaking the door down at Winterfell why didn't he just charge through the wall and get the rest to follow, shieldwall broken. GG.

I'm wondering more why Ramsay didn't just gather his remaining men and armed them all with bows/crossbows and position them in front of the gate to rain down fire on every fucker who came through there.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 20, 2016, 10:53:59 pm
Also if Wun Wun could tank all those arrows after breaking the door down at Winterfell why didn't he just charge through the wall and get the rest to follow, shieldwall broken. GG.

Yup another of my gripes that giant could have bloody well just run through them all and there's bugger all they could have done. That pike/shield wall was so thin it would have been simple.

But no Wun Wun is the gentle giant.

I'm wondering more why Ramsay didn't just gather his remaining men and armed them all with bows/crossbows and position them in front of the gate to rain down fire on every fucker who came through there.

I was also wondering where Ramsey's archers went to in the battle. They just kinda magically vanished unless they were the swordsmen fighting at the top of that pile of bodies. I wouldn't have thought they'd be out of arrows that quickly. Not with ready supplies coming out of Winterfell. They could have happily shot those remaining guys to pieces whilst they were surrounded. He clearly doesn't give a fuck about hitting his own men.
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Post by: Jona on June 20, 2016, 10:59:24 pm
I'm wondering more why Ramsay didn't just gather his remaining men and armed them all with bows/crossbows and position them in front of the gate to rain down fire on every fucker who came through there.

Because every character on GoT has plot armor until it's their time to die, at which point they break character and do stupid things.

Yup another of my gripes that giant could have bloody well just run through them all and there's bugger all they could have done. That pike/shield wall was so think it would have been simple.

But no Wun Wun is the gentle giant.

Wun Wun would have been  hella OP if he only remembered to BRING A FUCKING WEAPON. How hard would it be for him to grab a nearby tree and use it as a club? He did just fine at Hardholme. Shit, if for some reason he couldn't get a tree at least grab a horse's corpse and flail it around... it was pitiful how dumb they made him seem when he tried to grab at the pikemen, who obviously had pikes to perfectly counter him.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 20, 2016, 11:16:57 pm

They're too proud of things that we cringe
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Post by: Teeth on June 20, 2016, 11:55:42 pm
The entire battle just was not written in a way that makes sense. Its like the writers can only come up with one move or stratagem at a time, while not being able to simultaneously think of a way for the other side to react in a sensible or logical way, or keep track of what other types of troops could be doing that are not part of the stratagem. Now its archers firing, now the cavalry charges, now its surround with infantry time, now Jon's army does nothing. Its just a string of gimmicks that leaves dozens of gaps in which you can wonder "why X did not use Y" or "what happened to troop type Z" during pretty much any battle shot. And then they brag about how their gimmicks were inspired by historical battles, lol. Also, the lack of reserves, a chain of command and scouts makes everything seem even more silly.

Perhaps I am just too much of a military history nerd and nobody else is bothered by this, but I recall that battles in the books did not come across as if the military tradition of Westeros was left at 3.000 BC. Ah well, at least most of the episode looked really good. It seems like a lot of budget went into two big battles and they felt reasonably large. The horse charge scene with Jon fighting among it looked was deliciously brutal. The Vale horse charge was pretty cool too.

Can anyone remind me why Littlefinger decided to take the Vale north to wreck the Boltons again, I can't recall anything that makes sense? I am not sure how the North situation will be resolved now, since Littlefinger is a greedy bitch and he is the only one left with an army up there. Also, Dany went from being a hobo lost somewhere in the boonies to being all geared up for a Westeros invasion in like three episodes, pretty stupid.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 12:25:04 am

A more in depth look at the design behind the battle.

They really took the bodies making a barrier thing a little too literally. Sure a wall of bodies a couple high would be quite possible. But those were proper neatly stacked hills of bodies. Piled up like they had time to clear up and make a stack. Not to mention that they took that from the civil war era. Medieval battles, bar a few in particular that I can think of had relatively low numbers of serious casualties. Most of the battles that had significant numbers were in routs where an army was given no quarter when they fled or straight up slaughters.

Can anyone remind me why Littlefinger decided to take the Vale north to wreck the Boltons again, I can't recall anything that makes sense? I am not sure how the North situation will be resolved now, since Littlefinger is a greedy bitch and he is the only one left with an army up there. Also, Dany went from being a hobo lost somewhere in the boonies to being all geared up for a Westeros invasion in like three episodes, pretty stupid.

Littlefinger is actually one of the few things that does make sense. He's saved Jon Snow, who isn't a Stark so ultimately isn't a threat. The only Stark left that anyone knows of is Sansa, who is now a widow. Littlefinger is hungry for land and power, he will literally do anything to get it. Whether it be betrayal, changing sides ect ect. He's arguably the best at the political game in the show. If he can pretty much force Sansa into marriage through obligation he'll be one of the most powerful men in Westeros to back it up. Seeing as the name is the one thing Littlefinger lacks besides wealth, and now an army, by marrying a Stark he gets as close as he can get to a noble lineage.

I think there's even a bit in the show a few seasons back where he talks about the fact no one takes him seriously because he's not from a 'great' family and he's spiteful because of it. Increasing his wealth and power so he can challenge the status quo is pretty much what he's all about, with a little bit of pure greed thrown in.

That would take his tally of control up to the North, Harrenhall (forgotten if he still technically controls that in the show) and the Vale. Which is pretty nuts.

Not to mention the entire sequence of events that leads Ned Stark into Kings Landing was started by Littlefinger. He's pretty much the reason everything got so fucked up in the first place. He sows chaos because he's smart enough to manoeuvre himself to come out on top in it all.

I'm kind of wondering how they will deal with him. He's the snake in the grass and most of the characters, especially the Stark's, have been too naive to see it until it was too late. At some point they are going to have to drag him down.
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Post by: Jarold on June 21, 2016, 01:25:27 am
Clearly Rikkon has never played Warband.....or doesn't have a working brain.

Maybe put a little zig or a zag in that straight line dash down the field.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 21, 2016, 01:31:00 am
When I saw him running this was the only thing in my mind. Y u no zig zag?!



Also this is basically CRPG 2-3 years ago when Great Khans were everywhere and u as 2h'er were left alone against incoming cav. Jon Snow was about to lolstab them all

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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 01:32:42 am
Also, HOW FUCKING OLD HAS HE GOTTEN? Isn't he supposed to be like five/six and Bran something like nine?
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 01:54:57 am


Also this is basically CRPG 2-3 years ago when Great Khans were everywhere and u as 2h'er were left alone against incoming cav. Jon Snow was about to lolstab them all
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Ha back when we used to have 20 of us on at a time using a server for training purposes. Ah banner balance.

Rickon in the books was only like 3 when it all started. But we gave up on ages from season 1 considering Danerys was 14 and Arya 8. I think Rob, Jon and Theon were only about 18.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 02:07:59 am
Can they atleast fucking try

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Look at this ugly cunt, I wanna kick him in the groin

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Post by: Asheram on June 21, 2016, 03:35:53 am
Clearly Rikkon has never played Warband.....or doesn't have a working brain.

Maybe put a little zig or a zag in that straight line dash down the field.

oh wait wrong show sry

so while we are at it
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Post by: Torben on June 21, 2016, 08:01:00 am
im still hoping for the cringy womenpower to end:
after all we had a short tinder of insanity in daenarys when she wanted to burn all the cities to the ground.
and the dude that gave sansa to a sadistic rapist just saved the north.
maybe some interesting shit is yet to come.

all in all loved the battle too tho,  aaaah cav.  QQ where'd my crpg go
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Post by: Xant on June 21, 2016, 10:53:48 am
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Post by: Teeth on June 21, 2016, 11:33:22 am
Yeah what is it with these cute kids growing up to have the most punchable faces, this guy too:

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Post by: vipere on June 21, 2016, 12:21:55 pm
What a shitty door for the king of the North fortress.

no portcullis, no moat, even the blackfish little castle had all of this
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Post by: Xant on June 21, 2016, 12:23:36 pm
You really had to turn your brain off when it came to a lot of things that episode (battle tactics, corpse piles, Jon surviving, Daenerys dragons, etc), but as pure entertainment it was good.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 21, 2016, 12:31:49 pm
Can anyone remind me why Littlefinger decided to take the Vale north to wreck the Boltons again, I can't recall anything that makes sense?

There was exactly one scene where they deal with that, the mental Arryn kid gives Petyr leave to do whatever the fuck he wants with the army cause he gave him a falcon. Petyr's own reasons could range from his sick pedo love for Sansa to just another plot to gather more power and influence.

Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less. Asha and Theon showing up at Mereen almost immediately when it's shown to be such a long, grueling journey in the books is another one (although they did the same thing with Tyrion tbf).
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Post by: Xant on June 21, 2016, 12:51:56 pm
Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less. Asha and Theon showing up at Mereen almost immediately when it's shown to be such a long, grueling journey in the books is another one (although they did the same thing with Tyrion tbf).
Well, no one in Game of Thrones uses scouts. Armies regularly appear out of fucking nowhere, just in time to be dramatic and allow for some smug smirking.

Thinking about smug smirking triggered me, and now I'm again reminded of how retarded a character Sansa is right now, and the fact that the creators of the show are actually proud of it.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 21, 2016, 12:57:36 pm
Well, no one in Game of Thrones uses scouts. Armies regularly appear out of fucking nowhere, just in time to be dramatic and allow for some smug smirking.

Thinking about smug smirking triggered me, and now I'm again reminded of how retarded a character Sansa is right now, and the fact that the creators of the show are actually proud of it.

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Post by: Xant on June 21, 2016, 01:46:57 pm
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Also, every fight scene Jon Snow's been in has been very adequate. I think it's probably because the actor is athletic enough to not look completely retarded while swinging a sword (unlike just about every other actor).
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 02:01:40 pm
Yup compared to some of the other fight scenes this one was actually ok.

Does make me somewhat miss Rob though. Although they didn't ever show any of his battles at least he was tactically sound and knew what he was doing to the extent that he won a string of great victories.

Turning Jon's brain into smush for this was just irritating. Especially as he has proven himself a competent commander previously.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 21, 2016, 02:12:12 pm
Yup compared to some of the other fight scenes this one was actually ok.

Does make me somewhat miss Rob though. Although they didn't ever show any of his battles at least he was tactically sound and knew what he was doing to the extent that he won a string of great victories.

Turning Jon's brain into smush for this was just irritating. Especially as he has proven himself a competent commander previously.

The tactical genius of Robb Stark, The Plot Shield Of Daenerys Stormwhore, The sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, The Honor Of Ned Stark & the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne and you'd get the most awesome character ever.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 02:44:11 pm
The tactical genius of Robb Stark, The Plot Shield Of Daenerys Stormwhore, The sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, The Honor Of Ned Stark & the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne and you'd get the most awesome character ever.


Err durr tactical genius of Robb Stark?? Holy shit, laughable.

More like, The tactical genius of Stannis Baratheon, the wit of Stannis baratheon, the sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, the honor of Ned Stark and the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne.

Robb was okey, he did some nice moves when he outmanuevred Jamie, but surely naming him a "Tactical genius" for the man who drove his house into ruin by beheading Rickard Karstark and marrying that common pleb whore (in the show) is a bit exaggerated.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 02:47:28 pm
Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.

Rob in terms of military tactician was great, particularly in the books where he gains almost mythical status amoungst the Lannistars as he's so feared. It was his political and emotional side that let him down outside of combat.

He actually reminds me a lot of Edward IV in that sense. A great military mastermind but fucking terrible at politics. Heck Edward IV even married a divorced minor noble woman for love and pissed off all his closest allies after alienating them. Ok parallels with the War of the Roses really are uncanny.
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Post by: Angantyr on June 21, 2016, 02:51:13 pm
Robb was okey, he did some nice moves when he outmanuevred Jamie, but surely naming him a "Tactical genius" for the man who drove his house into ruin by beheading Rickard Karstark and marrying that common pleb whore (in the show) is a bit exaggerated.
That was strategical failures not tactical.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 21, 2016, 03:09:54 pm

Err durr tactical genius of Robb Stark?? Holy shit, laughable.

More like, The tactical genius of Stannis Baratheon, the wit of Stannis baratheon, the sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, the honor of Ned Stark and the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne.

Robb was okey, he did some nice moves when he outmanuevred Jamie, but surely naming him a "Tactical genius" for the man who drove his house into ruin by beheading Rickard Karstark and marrying that common pleb whore (in the show) is a bit exaggerated.

Robb was a shit leader of his house due to his political decisions and everything not concerning the battles. But at the battlefield he was a legend. Stannis was the king of tactical geniuses....in the books. Show Stannis? Not so much.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 03:15:02 pm
Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.

Rob in terms of military tactician was great, particularly in the books where he gains almost mythical status amoungst the Lannistars as he's so feared. It was his political and emotional side that let him down outside of combat.

He actually reminds me a lot of Edward IV in that sense. A great military mastermind but fucking terrible at politics. Heck Edward IV even married a divorced minor noble woman for love and pissed off all his closest allies after alienating them. Ok parallels with the War of the Roses really are uncanny.

Holy shit, you're really dumbing down Stannis, aren't you? He was an experienced, superb battle commander.

If that's your view on Stannis tactical achievements, read this:

https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/a-complete-analysis-of-stannis-baratheon-as-a-military-commander/

That was strategical failures not tactical.

True, mixed the both for a second there. Without those horrendous decisions, Robb was a good commander, I defnitely wouldn't say he's better then Stannis though.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 03:16:14 pm
Robb was a shit leader of his house due to his political decisions and everything not concerning the battles. But at the battlefield he was a legend. Stannis was the king of tactical geniuses....in the books. Show Stannis? Not so much.

What did he have in the books? 2000 men against all the wildlings? In the show they made it look like he outnumbered them 10 to 1.  :lol:
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Post by: Angantyr on June 21, 2016, 03:21:39 pm
Without those horrendous decisions, Robb was a good commander, I defnitely wouldn't say he's better then Stannis though.
Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 03:27:05 pm
Holy shit, you're really dumbing down Stannis, aren't you? He was an experienced, superb battle commander.

If that's your view on Stannis tactical achievements, read this:

https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/a-complete-analysis-of-stannis-baratheon-as-a-military-commander/

True, mixed the both for a second there. Without those horrendous decisions, Robb was a good commander, I defnitely wouldn't say he's better then Stannis though.

So he had a couple of victories outside of the TV show. One of which was sitting pretty in a castle during a siege. Only saved because of the Onion knight I'd like to add.

I'd still put Rob above Stannis.

Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.

That's probably a good point. You could draw comparisons with Napoleon and Wellington. One was an inspiring, charismatic leader who's main strengths lay in quickly attacking and over coming an enemy, usually surprising them with how quickly he could maneuver his forces. Wellington on the other hand, was cold and distant and particularly good at holding a tactical advantage due to terrain.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 21, 2016, 03:28:44 pm
Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.

"Hundreds will die!" "...Thousands."

Would be so interesting to see a battle between the two.

So he had a couple of victories outside of the TV show. One of which was sitting pretty in a castle during a siege. Only saved because of the Onion knight I'd like to add.

I'd still put Rob above Stannis.

Emphasis on 'pretty'
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Post by: Angantyr on June 21, 2016, 03:31:42 pm
At the Siege of Storm's End Stannis' main contribution was being dutiful and persistent, while the garrison starved.
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Post by: Xant on June 21, 2016, 03:40:19 pm
Arguing about the fictional merits of their strategic/tactical skills is kind of strange when GRRM mostly just decides who wins and who loses based on what he wants to happen in the story, without it necessarily making much sense.

GRRM doesn't really write Intelligent Characters. http://yudkowsky.tumblr.com/writing
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Post by: Angantyr on June 21, 2016, 03:44:31 pm
Yes, he just uses their described merits to build character themes.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 21, 2016, 05:41:28 pm
Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.

Uhh you better check who won Robert's war for him. Robert's rebellion would have ended in failure without Stannis the Mannis!
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Post by: Overdriven on June 21, 2016, 06:13:55 pm
I mean he is writing a story, not playing DnD.

He's not going to bring 2 characters into a field and roll dice based on their 'commander' score to see who wins.

As a story-writer ofc he knows who's going to win based on what he wants to happen storywise. But if he isn't a good enough writer to make the circumstances convincing, that's where it breaks down. I only read the first couple of books so don't know how good he is at writing battles, but in the show battles are usually a clusterfuck.

He doesn't really write the battles in. It's one of the more stand out things in the early books certainly. For instance because Rob isn't a PoV character you only hear about his victories second hand. I think the first real one he writes is the defense of the wall. Maybe the defense of kings landing, though I can't remember if that was fully in the books. Otherwise it's more glimpses of what's happened with the odd chapter here and there.

He's certainly not big on writing battles like a lot of authors.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 21, 2016, 06:26:50 pm
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Also Kit apparently punched him in the face for realz while filming the most satisfying scene ever.
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Post by: Tagora on June 21, 2016, 06:36:48 pm
Also Kit apparently punched him in the face for realz while filming the most satisfying scene ever.
sauce?
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 21, 2016, 06:45:16 pm
sauce?


Around at 3:54 mark he mentions it.
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Post by: Moncho on June 21, 2016, 06:49:38 pm
The Battle of the Blackwater has POVs from Davos from the ships, Sansa in the castle with the women, and Tyrion in the middle of things until he gets knocked out iirc.
As such things like the chain and the wildfire are described, some of the land battle from Tyrion including the sallying, and noises from inside as well as the Hound breaking from Sansa.
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Post by: vipere on June 21, 2016, 10:14:34 pm
Ned Stark was here !

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Post by: LordBerenger on June 22, 2016, 12:00:34 am
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Post by: Asheram on June 22, 2016, 12:33:13 am
Ned Stark was here !

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So we finally find out who the headless horseman is, its Ned Stark! The geezer in the fence is a deserter from the wall.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 22, 2016, 01:19:59 am
Curious question, do any of you think there is a possibility for another company to make a GoT series? I know it may sound stupid but just wondering, cause I'd really like to see what could of been without DnD. The idea won't be original, but I'm sure a lot would still watch it.
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Post by: Jona on June 22, 2016, 01:34:18 am
Well it's always a possibility, if and when HBO loses the rights to GoT. I wouldn't deem it impossible to have a GoT "reboot" in a decade or so. I can't really imagine anything else happening sooner though. If anything they'd make some spin-off series and keep milking the franchise as long as they can, most likely keeping the rights to themselves for the foreseeable future.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 22, 2016, 01:36:51 am
Well it's always a possibility, if and when HBO loses the rights to GoT. I wouldn't deem it impossible to have a GoT "reboot" in a decade or so. I can't really imagine anything else happening sooner though. If anything they'd make some spin-off series and keep milking the franchise as long as they can, most likely keeping the rights to themselves for the foreseeable future.

:DD Thanks fam<33 Can sleep well tonight with a gleeming hope that one day the universe may reach its full potential.
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Post by: Asheram on June 22, 2016, 01:38:53 am
Curious question, do any of you think there is a possibility for another company to make a GoT series? I know it may sound stupid but just wondering, cause I'd really like to see what could of been without DnD. The idea won't be original, but I'm sure a lot would still watch it.
They should do an animated version, with the graphic stylings of "Tales of the Black Freighter"
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 22, 2016, 02:15:50 am
They should do an animated version, with the graphic stylings of "Tales of the Black Freighter"

Sorta like LotR (1978)? Doing an animated version of Dunk and Egg would be cool.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 22, 2016, 02:29:04 am
Animated version would be awesome. They wouldn't be limited by CGI budget costs and what not + the episodes would pop out faster.
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Post by: Yeldur on June 22, 2016, 02:30:16 am
The battle from the most recent episode made me angry inside due to how fucking shittily it was commanded, the archers they had did absolutely fucking nothing, and then instead of moving position to attack Ramsay's archers they just decided "NAH, FUCK THE ADVANTAGE WE'LL JUST BUM RUSH EM COS THAT'S A GREAT PLAN :^)" I mean I appreciate that they're fighting someone who has far more of a tacticians mind than they ever will, but that whole fight was just pathetic. The North didn't win that fight at all, the Vale won it for them.
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Post by: Malaclypse on June 22, 2016, 03:15:44 am
Sorta like LotR (1978)? Doing an animated version of Dunk and Egg would be cool.

The comics are certainly pretty awesome and Dunk and Egg's tales would lend themselves well to animation for sure.
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Post by: Xant on June 22, 2016, 04:42:04 am

Around at 3:54 mark he mentions it.
Holy shit, Sansa's actor is as bad as Sansa.

"Sansa's been Ramsay's prisoner for god knows how long, and yet they won't listen to her..." all said in like this petulant little girl voice. Jesus Christ. And I bet she's echoing the creators' opinions there, "haha, their come uppance for not listening to her!!! XD"

So many things wrong with that.

How does being Ramsay's prisoner help in the fucking least when it comes to military tactics? Uhm... yeah, it doesn't. And Jon actually ASKS HER what her advice is.... and she has none. Wow. So they wouldn't listen to her.... when she had nothing to say?

Good god, so obnoxious.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 22, 2016, 07:19:55 am
Holy shit, Sansa's actor is as bad as Sansa.

"Sansa's been Ramsay's prisoner for god knows how long, and yet they won't listen to her..." all said in like this petulant little girl voice. Jesus Christ. And I bet she's echoing the creators' opinions there, "haha, their come uppance for not listening to her!!! XD"

So many things wrong with that.

How does being Ramsay's prisoner help in the fucking least when it comes to military tactics? Uhm... yeah, it doesn't. And Jon actually ASKS HER what her advice is.... and she has none. Wow. So they wouldn't listen to her.... when she had nothing to say?

Good god, so obnoxious.

Yeah and everyone just chooses to forget the fact that she held the information about Veil army. Or come up with excuses for it. "Omg she's teh best military strategist coming up with secret army lol so Salsa." Some of the posts you read in youtube or see in videos will surely give me cancer. I'm pretty certain about it.
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Post by: Xant on June 22, 2016, 08:36:50 am
Yeah and everyone just chooses to forget the fact that she held the information about Veil army. Or come up with excuses for it. "Omg she's teh best military strategist coming up with secret army lol so Salsa." Some of the posts you read in youtube or see in videos will surely give me cancer. I'm pretty certain about it.
I looked at the imdb forums right after the episode came out, and it was full of cancer. "if salsa had told jon about the army then they might have planned around it!!!! and then rumsay would never have left winterfell!!!" as if ~3000 people dying in your army is better than a siege. There's just no sensible reason for Sansa to not tell Jon about the army, it was an act of pure evil, but people come up with the weirdest reasons.
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Post by: Son Of Odin on June 22, 2016, 09:38:34 am
I looked at the imdb forums right after the episode came out, and it was full of cancer. "if salsa had told jon about the army then they might have planned around it!!!! and then rumsay would never have left winterfell!!!" as if ~3000 people dying in your army is better than a siege. There's just no sensible reason for Sansa to not tell Jon about the army, it was an act of pure evil, but people come up with the weirdest reasons.

They could have still hidden the Veil riders until the beginning of the battle when Ramsay took his army outside. Revealed it to him and negotiated for the release of Rickon etc when Ramsay is left with no other choice.
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Post by: Xant on June 22, 2016, 11:02:23 am
They could have still hidden the Veil riders until the beginning of the battle when Ramsay took his army outside. Revealed it to him and negotiated for the release of Rickon etc when Ramsay is left with no other choice.
Of course they could have. That's why Salsa shit makes no sense. And exactly why she caused the death of her little brother.
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 22, 2016, 11:06:27 am
Leaked soundtrack. Spoiler's possibly. And fuck it's a gooooooood track btw. So creepy. Towards the end especially.

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Post by: Vibe on June 22, 2016, 11:53:23 am
Leaked soundtrack. Spoiler's possibly. And fuck it's a gooooooood track btw. So creepy

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Not bad. But once you're spoiled by awesome OST of Soulsborne series all this sounds so basic.
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Post by: Bittersteel on June 22, 2016, 12:37:17 pm
Leaked soundtrack. Spoiler's possibly. And fuck it's a gooooooood track btw. So creepy

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Sends shivers down my spine, looking forward to Cersei going batshit crazy so much.
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Post by: the real god emperor on June 22, 2016, 12:44:17 pm

When I told before the season begun that since they completely left following the books it will become horrible, everyone looked up to me like a shitter. Now burn in your own flames knaves.
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Post by: Xant on June 22, 2016, 01:00:23 pm
When I told before the season begun that since they completely left following the books it will become horrible, everyone looked up to me like a shitter. Now burn in your own flames knaves.
It's not any worse than last season. If anything, this season's been better than the last 2-4.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 22, 2016, 01:22:39 pm
When I told before the season begun that since they completely left following the books it will become horrible, everyone looked up to me like a shitter. Now burn in your own flames knaves.

Season 5 was really bad. Season 6 is slightly better imo.

Obviously not as good as the first 3 seasons but still.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 22, 2016, 01:28:25 pm
I actually liked this season. Certainly more than some of those previously.

It's been a bit cringey at times but they are finally picking up the pace a bit.
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Post by: Torben on June 22, 2016, 02:47:05 pm
true dat.

im just wondering. what will be left to watch when they killed off the last intriguing character?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 22, 2016, 03:34:16 pm
true dat.

im just wondering. what will be left to watch when they killed off the last intriguing character?

Wun Wun?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 22, 2016, 04:38:15 pm
maybe all men will be killed off and the show is a build up to a huge lesbo scene, making Martin the greatest manipulator of this millennium.  tricking women into thinking they are boss just to see them boobz
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 22, 2016, 09:01:18 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Yeldur on June 22, 2016, 11:22:02 pm
Also another thing that pissed me off about that battle is that the fucking kid noticed he was having arrows shot at him so instead of taking ACTUAL evasive measures to y'know, dodge the dangerous arrows flying fucking toward him he just runs straight forwards like a complete fucking retard. This whole battle sucked dick.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Kalam on June 22, 2016, 11:36:14 pm
Sansa is now the worst. She's like Cersei, except not played by Lena Headey.

And Torben, they could go in very interesting directions- like the Blackfyre Rebellion, Dance of Dragons, Dunk & Egg, etc

They'd probably just do Robert's Rebellion, because tv produced the shit that is Gotham. Apparently branding is all that matters to viewers.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 22, 2016, 11:57:10 pm
Sansa is now the worst. She's like Cersei, except not played by Lena Headey.

And Torben, they could go in very interesting directions- like the Blackfyre Rebellion, Dance of Dragons, Dunk & Egg, etc

They'd probably just do Robert's Rebellion, because tv produced the shit that is Gotham. Apparently branding is all that matters to viewers.

Oh look, it's Batman
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 23, 2016, 01:02:23 am
I loved Gotham.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 23, 2016, 01:07:32 pm
Damn besides the Dany bullshit. Really hyped for Episode 10. Shame we don't have a proper GoT/ASOIAF MMORPG to play while waiting for the next season next year or even the Winds Of Winter book (should come out early 2017 iirc)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 23, 2016, 02:24:48 pm
Damn besides the Dany bullshit. Really hyped for Episode 10. Shame we don't have a proper GoT/ASOIAF MMORPG to play while waiting for the next season next year or even the Winds Of Winter book (should come out early 2017 iirc)

play ACOK for M&B Warband.
Or AGOT for CK2

good gemz
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 23, 2016, 04:51:07 pm
play ACOK for M&B Warband.
Or AGOT for CK2

good gemz

I own CK2 but it's too slow. If it were something along the lines of Medieval 2 TW I'd prefer it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 01:04:25 am
Leaked GIF from episode. Don't open if u don't wanna see. (Not that spoilerish though)

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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 04:28:43 am
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I hope that when Daeynaris gets to Kingslanding that her dragons decide they like Cersai better so they let Cersai fly them around the whole planet and burn everyone to ash, then when the dragons get hungry because they burned everything to ash they eat Cersai as the screen fades to black.
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 27, 2016, 04:47:04 am
Those beginning Kings Landing scenes though.  :shock:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 05:02:57 am
Even though from the leaks I completely expected it. The WildFireMania made me kinda sick. Like the Red Wedding. Although not quite as much. Pycelle was a fun character. High Sparrow was cool and Margaery was a cool chick and one of the last cool women on the show that aren't cringy and all entitled.

As for R+L=J pretty much being confirmed. I mean I guess it's kinda cool. As long as they don't force a JonXDaenerys relationship.

And King In The North was awesome. So was Frey Pie. Probably 8/10 episode imo. Ending ruined it a bit. Dragon whore got 3 season endings now. (Out of 6...wtf).

And finally....no Euron? Wtf
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Post by: Thryn on June 27, 2016, 05:13:01 am
cersei is now part of the religion of love and peace
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Post by: Tom Cruise on June 27, 2016, 05:24:04 am
cersei is now part of the religion of love and peace

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Post by: Banok on June 27, 2016, 05:27:53 am
my gripes with overall TV plot at this point

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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 05:44:01 am
My biggest question is which of the dragons will Jon Targaryen ride?
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Post by: Jona on June 27, 2016, 05:45:05 am
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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 06:10:12 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 06:11:21 am
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Maybe a Dance Of Dragons Part 2 with Jon Starkgaryen And The North + Allies VS Dragon Slut and Allies.
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Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 07:23:52 am
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 10:05:09 am
When you're the last guy on your team with only a 2h sword against tons of Archers in CRPG

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Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 12:34:14 pm
Words cannot describe how little sense that episode made.
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Post by: Teeth on June 27, 2016, 12:36:20 pm
I bet the North is going to join the Night King because as soon as he is defeated "winter is coming" would not be half as ominous as a slogan. Seriously though, the odds are stacked so much against the Lannisters that it will be three episodes until it is a Lord of the Rings-esque "kumbaya let us all unite and fight the evil dark forces together". I haven't really considered this so far because it seemed far down the line before the ridiculous pacing started, but the White Walkers seem very black and white, "evil for the sake of evil" bad guys. Very uncharacteristic for the series, I hope there is a catch, otherwise this will be dull.
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Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 12:41:59 pm
The director of episode 10 and 9 is really good. About the only saving grace of this episode.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 12:47:47 pm
The director of episode 10 and 9 is really good. About the only saving grace of this episode.

They need him to be the director for all future episodes and then GRRM to write the episodes (he's practically done with Winds Of Winter anyhow)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 27, 2016, 12:59:28 pm
waddafak, I can honestly say I don't enjoy the series anymore... I don't like how things are turning out, very little make sense and it just doesn't feel G.R.R.M anymore. All characters are dying for no reason in really stupid ways, a lot of plots have been fucked etc etc, I have very little positive to say about the show these days.

That *Varys enters the scene* and says Blood and fire was cringeworthy af, Arya is suddenly teleporting across the map but that's okay because every character in the show has that ability. I was cringing/pissed when Jon was "elected" King of the north when Sansa literally sits right next to him. I've never liked him but this makes no sense. Manderly has never seen this fucking guy before, knows very well he's a bastard, the only basis is that "HE" defeated Ramsay, WHEN THE HEIR IS LITERALLY SITTING THERE. Like someone said, who can oppose Dany now? And are people just accepting that the Sand Snakes rule Dorne now? I like the Cersei becoming queen and being generally being badass tho because she's so fucking hot imo

fyra av fem toasters
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Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 01:21:50 pm
I want someone to make a no music version of the "king in the north" chant. Should be max cringeworthy.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 01:26:36 pm
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 01:30:40 pm
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.

Assuming that in the episodes not everything happens in the same day and the ending was fast forwarded (time wise). Although I didn't see the end because I stopped when Cersei was crowned to skip the Cringenerys Fest.

Damn..she's been in 3 out of 6 Season Endings now.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 01:50:12 pm
Teleporting aside, how the fuck did Arya get there?

It took her what...2-3 season just to get from Kings Landing to Bravos? The distance she travels in the space on an episode here isn't that far off that. Sure there was a bit of meandering originally but she must have been going bloody fast.

Also Margaery wtf.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2016, 02:01:07 pm
Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less.

We've been operating on TV show logic, not the logic of the books that underlied the plot until now, which frankly was much more logical. The world building is done, as far as the TV show is concerned, and they have more important matters to worry about than the immersion of book readers. 
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Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 02:04:36 pm
Yeah I actually picked up the game of thrones mod on Warband this weekend. Kind of gives you a good over view of travelling times and can picture the map quite nicely.

The distances are insane. Unless events in this do span months and they are just really shit at representing timelines.

Edit: Correction. Not the twins. Moat Cailin. Which is Bolton controlled at this stage I believe. In which case Ramsey should have heard long before that Littlefinger was riding up with an army.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 27, 2016, 02:11:34 pm
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.

Haha, I missed that completely, what are they even doing?! Did they feel the urge to make the moment more epic that they defied all logic and transported him across the narrow sea? Did they pick him up somewhere? I have no fucking clue what's going on

Yeah I actually picked up the game of thrones mod on Warband this weekend. Kind of gives you a good over view of travelling times and can picture the map quite nicely.

The distances are insane. Unless events in this do span months and they are just really shit at representing timelines.

Edit: Correction. Not the twins. Moat Cailin. Which is Bolton controlled at this stage I believe. In which case Ramsey should have heard long before that Littlefinger was riding up with an army.

What? You can travel from Sunspear to the Wall in less than a week.
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Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 02:25:19 pm
I meant more in terms of perspective. So now I have a better 3d representation of where everything is I can compare it more easily.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2016, 02:55:54 pm
They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.

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Post by: Bittersteel on June 27, 2016, 03:25:22 pm
I really hope we see some sort of retrubution on Sam for stealing Heartsbane. But I can almost imagine him keeping it and Randyll never showing up in a scene anymore. I don't even know how he got himself all the way to Oldtown without being hunted down by his brother and a few men.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 03:26:00 pm
Teleporting.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 27, 2016, 03:31:57 pm
Best episode of the 6th season imo. At least we got some real GoT tier deaths, jesus christ, I was really overwhelmed by offscene deaths and unrealistic survivals.

Varys being on Dorne then being back on Daenerys' fleet is okay, I mean, Sun Spear isn't that far away from Essos. Cersei being crowned makes sense I mean come on, everyone on the capital with a relatively strong name and standing died.

Daenerys being Mary Sue and all yeah its too boring with her OP army and new alliances, at least she DID something that interferes others for the first time.

Arya was cringy as fuck. Learning to change faces when she was just an apprentice. Faceless Men don't simply carve faces out of ppl and use them, there is magic and other shit involved, and Arya just becomes a pro assassin with her so far useless training skills. And again, travelling from Braavos to Riverlands in that time.

Northerners are crowning anyone who does something cool a king I guess. Still, It was a cool scene.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 27, 2016, 03:44:35 pm
Cersei's hair hasn't grown an inch all season but Varys teleporting from sunspear to Slaver's bay Oh, I'm sorry, Bay of Dragons is somehow fine?

I don't see how you complain about her travelling from Bravoos to the Riverlands which is closer then Sunspear to the "Bay of Dragons". And it bothered me so fucking much that no one said "S-sorrry, i-isn't the rightful queen sitting r-right there?"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 04:05:35 pm
They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.
well to be fair varys and his little birds killed both kevan lannister and pycelle
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Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 04:28:20 pm
Yeah but that was done to undermine Tommen's rule as king to pave the way for the rightful king and ruler of Westeros a.ka Aegon a.ka Young Griff a.ka the awesome character D&D removed from the show because Dany needed more boring dialogue scenes.

Going by show logic, it wouldn't really make a lot of sense for Varys to go and crossbow Kevan and Pycelle now at this time. Maybe Qyburn because he stole Varys little birds but not Pycelle/Kevan. Pycelle and Kevan had more problems with Cersei than anyone else.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: saccizord on June 27, 2016, 04:35:33 pm
Holy shit. The whole opening sequence was so well done. Great episode! I love the direction Cersei is heading...

The teleports are unreal tho. Littlefinger, now Varys (he literally went to Dorne to say "Fire and Blood" and went back do Meereen to sail back to Westeros, wtf) and Arya. I just can't accept that Arya did all the Frey pies work and infiltrated the Twins so easily... imo it failed to be a feel good moment
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Post by: [ptx] on June 27, 2016, 07:21:52 pm
And this is why i hate watching series. Now i have to wait till next year argh :cry:

That Arya scene, btw, she re-enacted that one horror story that was told at some point.
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Post by: Oberyn on June 27, 2016, 07:37:54 pm
Frey pie in the book is Lord Manderly serving it to all the lords during the siege of Winterfell. They recycled it to give Arya a bit more to do I guess.
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Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 08:18:54 pm
Why did that Maester use six little girls to do the stabbing for him?

Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 08:33:23 pm
Why did that Maester use six little girls to do the stabbing for him?

Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.

I was wondering that about Lancel (think that's right). They needed like 10 kids to take down an old man but only one to take down him wtf?

I'm assuming now Bran is pretty much south of the wall he's going to Winterfell to tell Jon his heritage. I'm also hoping that Sansa will turn around and do away with Littlefinger. Although I've had enough of the whole girl power bullshit that would be justified.

And lol at the Mormont girl turning all those manly Northern men for Jon.

Seem some ridiculous comments on social media about how they didn't make it obvious enough who Jon's father was. Seriously she whispers to Ned don't let Robert know or he'll kill him. Do you really need it spelled out for you?

And Cersei is going to have almost as short a reign as her children.
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Post by: Teeth on June 27, 2016, 08:49:31 pm
Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.
Yeah, this irked me to no end. Nothing in this entire sequence made any sense. I can never quite understand how no one in such a production manages to ask "but... why?".
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 08:51:39 pm
They need the guy who directed these 2 episodes to do the final 2 series. He's done a really good job of getting the epic feeling across. Which is something it's missed for a few seasons. Considering everything is now kicking off they need to keep it up.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 10:05:49 pm
I have a feeling season 7 will just be a filler for season 8 which will probably be the last season featuring the White Walker war
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 27, 2016, 10:25:59 pm
Well Season 7 should be Danaerys taking Westeros and Jon consolidating his family with a bit of Littlefinger intrigue thrown in.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Knute on June 27, 2016, 10:26:31 pm
They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.

Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.

Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.

During the scene when Gendry was hauled off, Melisandre predicted she and Arya would meet again, so there's a good chance of them crossing paths early next season. Can't remember if she was Arya's list though. Also you have the Hound & BwB in the same general area as Arya now or heading north so that'll be interesting.

As far as sides in the upcoming conflict, it's probably not too lopsided for team Targaryen. Euron's fleet might run into her while she's heading over so that could reduce her numbers quite a bit. He also might attack the Tyrells on the way to find Dany so that could tie down their armies. Maybe Euron will even attempt to ally (and marry?) Cersei when he finds out Danerys is teamed up with Yara/Theon.

The Lannisters still have the support of the Frey's even though their leader is dead. Depending on how much of the Frey family is dead, it might even be possible that Edmure Tully would side with the Lannisters in exchange for control of all the Riverlands as a puppet. The Riverlands rebelled against the Targareons so there might still be enough bad blood for them to prefer the Lannisters over Danerys. Also, the Lannisters might still have support of some Baratheon forces since Tommen was considered a Baratheon and they rebelled against the Targareons as well. So it might turn out to be:

Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands, Iron Islands vs Dorne, Reach and Essos armies

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 10:39:10 pm
Little finger is running the Vale too and he made it clear to Sansa he wants to sit the iron throne with Sansa as his wife.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Talanarsis on June 27, 2016, 10:41:27 pm
My biggest question is which of the dragons will Jon Targaryen ride?

Rhaegal maybe? That dragon is named after Jon's father, after all.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 27, 2016, 10:46:47 pm
During the scene when Gendry was hauled off, Melisandre predicted she and Arya would meet again, so there's a good chance of them crossing paths early next season. Can't remember if she was Arya's list though. Also you have the Hound & BwB in the same general area as Arya now or heading north so that'll be interesting.

As far as sides in the upcoming conflict, it's probably not too lopsided for team Targaryen. Euron's fleet might run into her while she's heading over so that could reduce her numbers quite a bit. He also might attack the Tyrells on the way to find Dany so that could tie down their armies. Maybe Euron will even attempt to ally (and marry?) Cersei when he finds out Danerys is teamed up with Yara/Theon.

The Lannisters still have the support of the Frey's even though their leader is dead. Depending on how much of the Frey family is dead, it might even be possible that Edmure Tully would side with the Lannisters in exchange for control of all the Riverlands as a puppet. The Riverlands rebelled against the Targareons so there might still be enough bad blood for them to prefer the Lannisters over Danerys. Also, the Lannisters might still have support of some Baratheon forces since Tommen was considered a Baratheon and they rebelled against the Targareons as well. So it might turn out to be:

Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands, Iron Islands vs Dorne, Reach and Essos armies

IIRC, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, Beric Dondarrion, Thoros of Myr & Melisandre are the last ones on her list. But assuming she meets Gendry down on the road she could possibly strike off the 3 last ones off her list.

And Payne's actor got cancer or something so not sure if he's gone from the show or not.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 27, 2016, 11:13:20 pm
Well Season 7 should be Danaerys taking Westeros
Which was something to look forward to, once upon a time...

But it's Daenerys, so she's been piled every advantage possible, while Westeros is massively divided and should have almost no proper armies left after all the slaughter.

Bolton had six thousand men at Winterfell, 90+% of them died, Jon had three thousand men, 95+% of them died (but I guess some will come back alive because they speak as if the wildlings are still a force, maybe they were busy with something more important than the massive battle and didn't take part)...

Meanwhile Daenerys has what, a hundred thousand+ of mounted Dothraki, 10000 Unsullied (finest infantry in the world, also notice how they had to give her the finest cavalry in the world and the finest infantry in the world, otherwise she wouldn't be Daenerys Mary Sueborn), whatever assorted troops she's gathered from the conquered cities ("vast horde of freed men" the books say), and now the pirate army led by the lesbian pirate queen. Oh, not to forget three dragons that take her commands perfectly all of a sudden and are for all intents and purposes invincible and also make castles useless. She has a literally unbeatable army on paper, it's like a 10 year old boy wrote fanfiction about his favorite character.

Gee, I wonder how that fucking conquest will go. Wild guess, Daenerys has another Daenerys Is Triumphant moment. They'll need to get unbelievably convoluted to give her even the smallest challenge, never mind an actual threat. Robb Stark gave the entire united rest-of-Westeros serious trouble with 20k men...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 27, 2016, 11:32:46 pm
so my take on what happens next season:

sansa and jon sex it down,  cersei and jamie get a boner for them cause incest is awesome so ofc orgy alliance.

daenarys spontaneously combusts, her burning corpse setting fire to her fleet.  the dragons therefore roaming free and doing what ever the fuck they want (starting off by eating those sandsnake bitches)

then the walkers breach the wall and shit gets interesting again.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Leshma on June 27, 2016, 11:40:59 pm
Fuck Game of Thrones.

Bud Spencer died today :cry:
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Torben on June 27, 2016, 11:49:50 pm
Fuck Game of Thrones.

Bud Spencer died today :cry:

I know right : /
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 27, 2016, 11:59:54 pm
Fuck Game of Thrones.

Bud Spencer died today :cry:



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woops sry forgot I already posted this here.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 12:55:31 am
Haha, all the complaints about the travel per time "paradoxes", oh well.
People assuming that every episode covers the same amount of time for every plot line is really funny.

Arya is suddenly teleporting across the map
Suddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?

Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.
Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 28, 2016, 01:07:55 am
"George R.R. Martin
Book Three: A Song of Ice and Fire
A NOTE ON CHRONOLOGY
A Song of Ice and Fire is told through the eyes of characters who are sometimes hundreds or even thousands of miles apart from one another. Some chapters cover a day, some only an hour; others might span a fortnight, a month, half a year. With such a structure, the narrative cannot be strictly sequential; sometimes important things are happening simultaneously, a thousand leagues apart.
In the case of the volume now in hand, the reader should realize that the opening chapters of A Storm of Swords do not follow the closing chapters of A Clash of Kings so much as overlap them. I open with a look at some of the things that were happening on the Fist of the First Men, at Riverrun, Harrenhal, and on the Trident while the Battle of the Blackwater was being fought at King’s Landing, and during its aftermath...
GEORGE R. R. MARTIN"
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 01:14:55 am
Haha, all the complaints about the travel per time "paradoxes", oh well.
People assuming that every episode covers the same amount of time for every plot line is really funny.
Suddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?
Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?


Alright, let's look it over: Mr. Stealyosword's son or whatever has grew nothing since the third season. Cersei's hair hasn't grown an inch all season (I guess they can't really control her hair growth irl, but still) there's a lot of fucking things more that point to the exact same shit, but I can't think of them right now. Let's face it, it's fucked up, it's not part of the 'lore' or the 'show' or whatever, they just want to hurry the show up so they can move on to another project. So they decide to do a lot of stupid shit like Varys dropping in for one 'cool' scene where he can say Fire and Blood, then they want him for another scene so they don't actually give a fuck about how he got there. Stop defending it, it's stupid and could be done much better.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: F i n on June 28, 2016, 01:33:09 am
Wtf was that music in the beginning all about. For one moment i thought i'd be watching the pianist.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 01:37:10 am
Let's face it, it's fucked up, it's not part of the 'lore' or the 'show' or whatever, they just want to hurry the show up so they can move on to another project. So they decide to do a lot of stupid shit like Varys dropping in for one 'cool' scene where he can say Fire and Blood, then they want him for another scene so they don't actually give a fuck about how he got there. Stop defending it, it's stupid and could be done much better.
No it's not, what's wrong with you?
Varys was shown in Dorne to let us know he's bargaining an alliance with Dorne and the Tyrells, he could've said absolutely nothing and the scene would still be valuable plot-wise. And do you really need a scene of Varys travelling all the way to Dorne and then another one showing him sailing back to actually know he travelled there?

Wtf was that music in the beginning all about. For one moment i thought i'd be watching the pianist.
IMO the music was fucking great and it added a lot to the scene.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 28, 2016, 01:52:20 am
Cersei's hair hasn't grown an inch all season

Or maybe she get's her hair cut off-screen like every other character? Just because her hair used to be long doesn't mean she didn't decide to just keep it short for now. Of all the poor writing to complain about, quick travel times is just nit-picking. It's obvious that they want to wrap up the story as quickly as possible at this point, so they aren't showing people sitting on a boat for an entire episode if not two. It's quite silly that Varys goes from Essos to Dorne and back, only to sail back to Westeros all in one episode, but it doesn't mean he's magically teleporting. Is it sloppy writing? Maybe, if only because it all happens within an hour, but I think it is safe to say we can all use our imagination for a change and fill in the blanks. And here people are complaining about too much filler as-is... if they showed every character sitting on a horse or boat for multiple episodes in a row we'd need 10 more seasons instead of 1.5-2.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: LordBerenger on June 28, 2016, 01:59:42 am
Wtf was that music in the beginning all about. For one moment i thought i'd be watching the pianist.

This epic piece:


Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 28, 2016, 02:07:16 am
Frey pie in the book is Lord Manderly serving it to all the lords during the siege of Winterfell. They recycled it to give Arya a bit more to do I guess.
Which he took his inspiration from " The Rat Cook" http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rat_Cook 
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 02:10:29 am
No it's not, what's wrong with you?
Varys was shown in Dorne to let us know he's bargaining an alliance with Dorne and the Tyrells, he could've said absolutely nothing and the scene would still be valuable plot-wise. And do you really need a scene of Varys travelling all the way to Dorne and then another one showing him sailing back to actually know he travelled there?

What's wrong with me? Is it too much to ask for a show with a budget of a 100 million dollars to put some effort into the writing? The scene in Dorne was necessary, even if it was poorly written in my opinion. But they wanted a cool scene on a ship where Daenerys looked over the ocean with all her companions behind her. It was so necessary they just put him there. They didn't give a single fuck. Logically, why the fuck would he even return?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: the real god emperor on June 28, 2016, 03:06:57 am
What's wrong with me? Is it too much to ask for a show with a budget of a 100 million dollars to put some effort into the writing? The scene in Dorne was necessary, even if it was poorly written in my opinion. But they wanted a cool scene on a ship where Daenerys looked over the ocean with all her companions behind her. It was so necessary they just put him there. They didn't give a single fuck. Logically, why the fuck would he even return?

He actually didn't ever leave the guy in Dorne was just a random bald brothel keeper
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 28, 2016, 03:33:52 am
He actually didn't ever leave the guy in Dorne was just a random bald brothel keeper
who had a fire and blood fetish  :P
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Overdriven on June 28, 2016, 10:16:37 am
Vary's line was very cheesy even if it does make sense plot wise.

What irks me though is they had a long drawn out scene with him saying goodbye to Tyrion like 2 episodes before as if he was never coming back and they'd only see each other when Daenarys landed in Westeros. Then all of a sudden, ooo hi I just went on a little vacation.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 28, 2016, 11:18:33 am
Haha, all the complaints about the travel per time "paradoxes", oh well.
People assuming that every episode covers the same amount of time for every plot line is really funny.
Suddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?
Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?
Because what you don't understand is that the episode takes place within a certain timeframe, and the timeframes aren't consistent with the teleports, not to mention the fact how badly written it is to have characters teleport vast distances constantly and consistently with no exposition.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 28, 2016, 03:39:12 pm
the episode takes place within a certain timeframe

Please, do try and provide a source.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 28, 2016, 03:57:33 pm
Please, do try and provide a source.
???????? wat

That's some Jaden Smith level shit right there. Are you suggesting the events in the episode exist outside of space and time?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 04:04:14 pm
Come on Xant, you can't trick us, we know you're not that dumb. Jona's question was legit and I'm sure you understood what he meant.
Because what you don't understand is that the episode takes place within a certain timeframe
Indeed, I don't even understand why would you think so, when it clearly doesn't. The timeframe may be different for each storyline.

What's wrong with me? Is it too much to ask for a show with a budget of a 100 million dollars to put some effort into the writing? The scene in Dorne was necessary, even if it was poorly written in my opinion. But they wanted a cool scene on a ship where Daenerys looked over the ocean with all her companions behind her. It was so necessary they just put him there. They didn't give a single fuck. Logically, why the fuck would he even return?
What's wrong with you is that you assume you know the full story and that they show the full story, while actually you don't and they don't. You assume that the only thing Varys travelled to Dorne for was to speak with Ellaria (which is probably true though) and you assume that the only thing Varys came back for is to sail with Daenerys, which is probably NOT true, because he could have other business to do in Meeryn before the sailaway. On top of that you assume that all this happened in the same time frame with other story lines shown in this episode, which is clearly not the case.
So just stop assuming too much and just watch the show, and make conclusions based on the shown story, not on your assumptions. Then it would probably make more sense.

Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 04:11:56 pm
You contradict yourself.

I do make my conclusions on what they show, they showed Varys travelling to Dorne to make alliances with the the Reach and Dorne. He then goes to Mereen to go back. That's what they are showing. You on the other hand is making assumptions...
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 28, 2016, 04:20:53 pm
Afaik, the only tv show that ever pretended to be in real time was 24, and in that show there were definitely plot holes/people teleporting all over the place. In every single other show or movie it is assumed that the events aren't happening in real time, and that we're only being shown the important parts. Did it take frodo only a few hours to walk across all of Middle Earth? No, we just saw a few snippets of his story. You guys are smarter than this, at this point your only defense is "lel i was trolling i got you good! xDDD" If you can't understand that GoT is only showing us a few select scenes from each characters' story, then I don't know how you've been able to enjoy any tv show or movie up until this point.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 04:47:08 pm
Let's throw in a two month journey inbetween 40-50 scenes that happen in a time period of a week and don't give a shit about how or why that was. (I'm David Benioff right now)
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 28, 2016, 05:41:30 pm
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Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 28, 2016, 05:55:16 pm
Come on Xant, you can't trick us, we know you're not that dumb. Jona's question was legit and I'm sure you understood what he meant.
Legit to you, maybe.

But I mean, it makes perfect sense. To get what I was saying takes some understanding of context, and to understand the complaint and problems people have with the teleporting also takes some understanding of context. It's no surprise, then, that the two people incapable of understanding the latter also don't understand the former.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 06:18:16 pm
You contradict yourself.

I do make my conclusions on what they show, they showed Varys travelling to Dorne to make alliances with the the Reach and Dorne. He then goes to Mereen to go back. That's what they are showing. You on the other hand is making assumptions...
There's no contradiction there really, making assumptions isn't wrong, making too much is. Perhaps my wording of that wasn't entirely correct.
I'll put it this way.
You assume Varys only goes to Mereen to sail back with the crew, because that's all they've shown him do. You assume that's the whole story, that he didn't do anything else, had no other reasons to return to Mereen.
And I just think he probably had some other business to do as well, because from what we've seen before he's not stupid and it fits the story.
So from your perspective it all looks like bullshit, from mine it seems alright. So maybe change the perspective and enjoy the show?  :)

But I mean, it makes perfect sense. To get what I was saying takes some understanding of context, and to understand the complaint and problems people have with the teleporting also takes some understanding of context. It's no surprise, then, that the two people incapable of understanding the latter also don't understand the former.
I do understand why people complain about "teleportation", I never said otherwise. What I say is - these complaints are quite stupid frankly, and I don't get why you think that each episode covers the same timeframe for each storyline (the assumption that leads to the "teleportation paradox"). Could you at least elaborate on that?



Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 06:21:05 pm
You do it again, you assume too much, while in reality, they only want a cool scene with all of Daenerys followers. There was nothing else he did there. They planted him in the scene, they gave no fucks about how he got there, in which timeframe, how much sense it would make etc.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 06:27:57 pm
You do it again, you assume too much, while in reality, they only want a cool scene with all of Daenerys followers. There was nothing else he did there. They planted him in the scene, they gave no fucks about how he got there, in which timeframe, how much sense it would make etc.
With that kind of logic you probably think Daenerys should die of hunger because they didn't show her eating anything since like season 3, she must be starving.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 28, 2016, 06:41:58 pm
Yes, I'm glad we understand eachother.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Jona on June 28, 2016, 06:43:38 pm
Legit to you, maybe.

But I mean, it makes perfect sense. To get what I was saying takes some understanding of context, and to understand the complaint and problems people have with the teleporting also takes some understanding of context. It's no surprise, then, that the two people incapable of understanding the latter also don't understand the former.

The classic Xant tactic when losing an argument - make unfounded remarks insulting the intelligence of those mentally superior to you every time you're getting fundamentally ruined instead of actually backing up your argument.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Xant on June 28, 2016, 07:04:20 pm
I do understand why people complain about "teleportation", I never said otherwise. What I say is - these complaints are quite stupid frankly, and I don't get why you think that each episode covers the same timeframe for each storyline (the assumption that leads to the "teleportation paradox"). Could you at least elaborate on that?
I'm not assuming that. The teleportations don't only happen across different storylines. The Arya teleports, for example, have logical consistency -- it's just not very good writing to have her appear like that out of nowhere. They don't have to show weeks of boat travel, but they should have some exposition. E.g., Varys being in Dorne - that's fine, they showed him leaving. Varys suddenly being back with Daenerys, not fine, especially because the difference is so jarring: first they have big goodbyes and show him leaving, then suddenly he's back with Tyrion and Daenerys with no transition. But a lot of the teleports touch other storylines with characters who aren't teleporting, for example the Queen of Thorns, Jaime, Cersei storylines are all connected, with the two former teleporting across the place, while nothing seems to happen where Cersei is. Which doesn't make sense, after what Cersei did there'd surely be huge repercussions, what with her killing all those nobles (who have relatives and allies), the Tyrell army being the biggest one in Westeros, etc.

In general, it feels like they're checking boxes. "Character X has to do Y", so they just teleport character X to Z, have them quickly do Y, change scene -- super lazy, and fails to elaborate on all kinds of background things that would surely be happening. It's the exact opposite of the books, all complexities stripped away, children's fantasy style.


The classic Xant tactic when losing an argument - make unfounded remarks insulting the intelligence of those mentally superior to you every time you're getting fundamentally ruined instead of actually backing up your argument.
Maybe I don't want to spend two hours explaining the obvious to dumb cunts who'd probably still manage to somehow misunderstand it.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 28, 2016, 08:53:57 pm
I'm not assuming that. The teleportations don't only happen across different storylines. The Arya teleports, for example, have logical consistency -- it's just not very good writing to have her appear like that out of nowhere. They don't have to show weeks of boat travel, but they should have some exposition. E.g., Varys being in Dorne - that's fine, they showed him leaving. Varys suddenly being back with Daenerys, not fine, especially because the difference is so jarring: first they have big goodbyes and show him leaving, then suddenly he's back with Tyrion and Daenerys with no transition.
So you are basically complaining that show producers don't have free screentime to show all the travels to make character moving more smooth. Yeah, well, I'd love GoT to be 100 episodes per year instead of 10. That's impossible though.

But a lot of the teleports touch other storylines with characters who aren't teleporting, for example the Queen of Thorns, Jaime, Cersei storylines are all connected, with the two former teleporting across the place, while nothing seems to happen where Cersei is. Which doesn't make sense, after what Cersei did there'd surely be huge repercussions, what with her killing all those nobles (who have relatives and allies), the Tyrell army being the biggest one in Westeros, etc.
That's what I personally mean by "teleportaion" - when we can see that in a definite span of time some character moved unrealistically faster than he could. But do we know from the show how much time passed from Jaime leaving Kings Landing to Jaime arriving back and Cercei burning her enemies? I don't think so. What makes you think there's a contradiction there?
To me it seems like Cercei's coronation went quite shortly after the burn, not like it took weeks for her to find herself on the iron throne.


Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Oberyn on June 28, 2016, 10:28:50 pm
I don't think they're trying to hurry it along, I think they're trying to cram two book's worth of material into this season and the next. And they probably didn't have the same sort of relatively polished plot from the already released books, which they used to have as a pattern for the plotline of the tv show, just a general guideline.
And sorry but the sense of time and distance, something essential to world building, creating a believable world for the story to take place in, was handled well in those earlier seasons. You can't pretend there's no difference in the disjointed and sometimes frenetic pace of movement and timelines in the the past episodes as compared to the starting ones.   
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Beauchamp on June 29, 2016, 12:01:40 am
for the first time i'm glad the series is over and i'm quite sure i can easily make it waiting for the next one.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Banok on June 29, 2016, 01:41:09 am
Teleportation is legit part of the show, if you rewatch e9 you can see giant in middle of army, then 2 seconds real time later he has teleported next to jon snow.

Also sansa rode off before ramsay says he has starved his dogs 7 days. then later says "you said it yourself...

there was some great CGI and scenes in ep 9. but really it was one of the silliest most impracticable battles Ive seen. I think people give the director way too much credit, such as waste of resources. it could have been a normal battle and one of the best ever in tv/film but instead it had to be full of stupid gimmicks and plotarmour.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 29, 2016, 01:47:20 am
Also sansa rode off before ramsay says he has starved his dogs 7 days. then later says "you said it yourself...
And what exactly is wrong with it?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Yeldur on June 29, 2016, 02:00:06 am
And what exactly is wrong with it?
Read it again. If he said it after she had left the bloody castle then how the fuck would she know what he said unless she has a superpowered ability to hear better (Although not surprising given the weird advantages that pretty much every female is given in the show)


That being said, so much shit happened in that episode it was like every 5 fucking minutes something new happened, either way, pretty obvious that when Daenerys gets there everyone is just fucking dead. An army that size and three dragons? Nobody can stand up to that even with an army. In a way it's necessary because dragonfire reks the black runners so she needs to win to go over to the wall and burn the black runners
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Asheram on June 29, 2016, 02:03:01 am
burn the black runners
what are those?
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Bittersteel on June 29, 2016, 02:03:51 am
And what exactly is wrong with it?

She wasn't there to hear it? You're gonna pull a "Well, em, durr, Jon Stark told her ofc xdd", but they clearly fucked up, like they do on a lot of shit. Ofcourse, if you want to take your route, you can defend absolutely everything in the show that is being questioned with some bullshit. "It happened off scene".

nice trap you tried to set up tho
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Macropus on June 29, 2016, 02:24:19 am
how the fuck would she know what he said unless she has a superpowered ability to hear better
Or unless she actually has living people around her to talk with?

She wasn't there to hear it? You're gonna pull a "Well, em, durr, Jon Stark told her ofc xdd", but they clearly fucked up, like they do on a lot of shit. Ofcourse, if you want to take your route, you can defend absolutely everything in the show that is being questioned with some bullshit. "It happened off scene".

nice trap you tried to set up tho
Thanks, although it's obvious as fuck that Jon or someone else of course told her. It's not like she tied Ramsey up in the cage with his dogs all by herself.
And it's not a fuck up, it's more like cutting off unnesessary scenes that don't bring anything to the story, which to me is good directing.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Yeldur on June 29, 2016, 01:55:52 pm
what are those?
Was just me making opposites, black runners, white walkers.

Or unless she actually has living people around her to talk with?
Yeah I'm sure loads of people from the Bolton's castles escaped with her that day.. Oh.. Oh wait it was just her and Theon wasn't it? Oops!
You're grasping at straws Macro.
I appreciate that they don't need to show her being told everything on the planet but there's a difference between not showing that and showing a piece of information which would easily make the story have a lot more sense to it.

Overall, I don't really give a shit, as it's basically just me being pedantic, but either way she shouldn't have known that without being told on camera about it or something happening to let her know about it.
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Post by: Macropus on June 29, 2016, 03:29:33 pm
Yeah I'm sure loads of people from the Bolton's castles escaped with her that day.. Oh.. Oh wait it was just her and Theon wasn't it? Oops!
You're grasping at straws Macro.
What are you even talking about?
Sansa's escape has nothing to do with it. Or do you think it only took her a week to travel all the way to Castle Black after escaping, meet with Jon, gather the army, and then travel back to Winterfell? Don't be ridiculous.
Ramsey mentioned him not feeding his dogs at their meeting before the battle. Sansa didn't hear it but she clearly was told so after the battle and before they put Ramsey into dog cells.
I hope it's clear now, lol.

showing a piece of information which would easily make the story have a lot more sense to it.
No it wouldn't, it would be a waste of time, "Hey Jon how should we kill Ramsey? Hey Sansa, he said he didn't feed his dogs. Alright then".
Why would they waste their screen time on something so little and obvious? Just to please the people who love to nitpick shit and try to see a plothole everywhere?
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Post by: Oberyn on June 29, 2016, 04:02:39 pm
That being said, so much shit happened in that episode it was like every 5 fucking minutes something new happened, either way, pretty obvious that when Daenerys gets there everyone is just fucking dead. An army that size and three dragons? Nobody can stand up to that even with an army. In a way it's necessary because dragonfire reks the black runners so she needs to win to go over to the wall and burn the black runners

They still haven't introduced Euron's dragon horn.
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Post by: Gravoth_iii on July 01, 2016, 05:30:44 am
Sad to see Ramsay go, he was entertaining. Lost a lot of interest in this season, the remaining characters just feel boring, and the progress is slow and not interesting either. The battles were horribly boring and stupid. I mean Jons army are pretty well armored but not a single one wears a helmet or brings a shield.
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Post by: [ptx] on July 13, 2016, 07:11:22 pm
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Butan on July 13, 2016, 08:28:37 pm
Sad to see Ramsay go, he was entertaining. Lost a lot of interest in this season, the remaining characters just feel boring, and the progress is slow and not interesting either. The battles were horribly boring and stupid. I mean Jons army are pretty well armored but not a single one wears a helmet or brings a shield.

Sad to see Ramsay go too, but this feeling of "this cant be anymore interesting now" has been proven false everytime a major/interesting sidekick died in all the seasons past. Maybe this time they went too far? I dont think so, Daenerys and Jon Snow alone (or even only one of them) can carry the show easily.
Also "progress being slow", every episode was brimming with arcs closing or new ones opening, if its slow and uninteresting you need to lay off the coke :P

The battle was superbly illustrated, one can only say that it wasnt entirely realistic but its the case with every shows.
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 01:29:20 am
Sad to see Ramsay go too, but this feeling of "this cant be anymore interesting now" has been proven false everytime a major/interesting sidekick died in all the seasons past. Maybe this time they went too far? I dont think so, Daenerys and Jon Snow alone (or even only one of them) can carry the show easily.
Also "progress being slow", every episode was brimming with arcs closing or new ones opening, if its slow and uninteresting you need to lay off the coke :P

The battle was superbly illustrated, one can only say that it wasnt entirely realistic but its the case with every shows.

Yes, the brilliant fleshed out characters Khaleesi and John Stark. There needs to be an interesting antagonist if the characters which this show now rest its shoulders on are gonna be worth watching. The show has set up an incredibly boring scenario. We got the incredibly dull and favored character Daenerys Targaryen who got everyone and their grandma supporting her. We also got Mr. Jon who gods know why everyone are so far up his arse, he very well may be the most annoying and boring character in the show. With characters like Grey Worm and Missandei, that's quite a feat. Obviously they want to wrap the show up as quick as possible and since they now have to rely more on their own writing and not Mr. Martin's, everything has gotten so predictable. Killing off every interestingly evil character and making just about EVERYTHING go right in the hands of these boring black and white characters. There's absolutely no slash of grey left. Sigh.
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Post by: Moncho on July 14, 2016, 09:51:23 am
If only Daenerys actually went fully Aerys and started burning everything, thus becoming destruction on fire, and from the North the Walkers came with their icy destruction... Only piece missing would be Stannis being the last hope stuck in between those two destroying forces and trying to keep what remains of the realm alive. But I'd be ok with it being Jon instead.
After all Daenerys seems to be like an (evil) destroying fire queen we got the origin story for.
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 10:58:44 am
^

That would be cool but somehow I doubt it
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 12:44:04 pm
There's absolutely no slash of grey left.

The only really "black" characters are the dead; Euron - Littlefinger - the Lannisters have understandable motives. Yes we all cry for the loss of the madman Ramsay Bolton but he was just a "black" funny nutter, he wasnt carrying the show at all.
And since all the "white" are striving to conquer the same patch of land, I would not say that the show is dead at all.

Its easy to foretold that there is going to be a massive three sided war in Westeros soon: war against the dead, war against Daenerys and war against the still strong westerosi pretenders (Iron isles, Highgarden and Littlefinger) with the same fun that the war of the 5 kings had, and more. + the Bran card is still not fully shown, and I wouldnt count on no new characters appearing soon.
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 12:54:56 pm
Highgarden have basically sworn fealty to Daenerys, with the loss of the Martells, Victarion, ACTUAL Euron etc, there's simply no more interesting characters left on the show. Tyrion went from
 
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I seriously can't see what Littlefinger can do anymore, altough, he has suprised before. Last wildcard we got is Cersei which I look forward to seeing more of. Actually, I change my mind, Cersei is a very interesting character atm.
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Post by: Oberyn on July 14, 2016, 01:02:02 pm
Only thing Cersei is going to do is what she's always done, which is be a gigantic moron and fuck up the carefully laid plans and alliances smarter people than her worked to build. The prophecy of Cersei dying at the hands of her own brother is probably going to end up referring to Jaime, not Tyrion as she always believed. Jaime going to be an unsung hero yet again by killing another insane, torture/fire loving absolute ruler. An even bigger sacrifice than just his honour this time, since it's Cersei, the only person he's ever really loved.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 02:03:36 pm
Highgarden have basically sworn fealty to Daenerys

I didnt understand at first, watched the Olenna/Sand meeting again and I understand now... Fire and Blood indeed. Daenerys might have a quick conquest then  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 02:45:09 pm
Not to mention Asha and Theon got enough men from the iron islands to sail 50 ships, altough not enough to fight off Euron and his ten supporters.
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 09:23:15 pm
Not to mention Asha and Theon got enough men from the iron islands to sail 50 ships, altough not enough to fight off Euron and his ten supporters.

Yeah I dont know why they had to make Asha/Theon manage to take ALL the freaking ships??? It can be explained realistically (skeleton crew) but that really makes it look weird af in terms of faction power balance. Euron probably got more like 90% of iron isles as support, and now they are going into "war economy" mode so it will easily justify that ep01 of the next season, they already have a thousand ships.
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Post by: Bittersteel on July 14, 2016, 09:54:05 pm
I'd laugh so hard if they randomly were assigned a thousand ships. The Iron Islands are like Norway, maybe even worse, there's no fucking way you're building a thousand ships.

Maybe with help of other ships to sail to mainland to get more wood. But they were stolen :(
Title: Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Post by: Butan on July 14, 2016, 10:19:54 pm
I'd laugh so hard if they randomly were assigned a thousand ships. The Iron Islands are like Norway, maybe even worse, there's no fucking way you're building a thousand ships.

Maybe with help of other ships to sail to mainland to get more wood. But they were stolen :(

Trust TV shows to make it happen though.
Euron said that every man had to build a ship, so it shall happen whether there are trees or not  :twisted:
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Post by: Asheram on July 14, 2016, 10:40:36 pm
Trust TV shows to make it happen though.
Euron said that every man had to build a ship, so it shall happen whether there are trees or not  :twisted:
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Post by: Asheram on July 24, 2016, 12:02:02 am
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Post by: Asheram on August 28, 2017, 09:55:35 pm
Think I'm gonna post here so I don't get people who like this show upset.
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Post by: Asheram on August 29, 2017, 01:32:43 am
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Post by: Asheram on August 29, 2017, 01:40:00 am
Therein lies the genius of HBO, why waste effort maintaining the same level of quality when people will keep watching anyway?
Amc has them beat there then as apperently they have been underselling the walking dead stuff so the original creator got less of a percentage of profits. Some big lawsuit going on there with kirkman and amc. That show went farther downhill than GoT yet I still watch it because I have a hard time stopping without an end to the story.