I haven't watched it but if they are on sky Atlantic i will record them as it sounds pretty good.
i'm not fan of martin, but fan of his work. i'm worried that the old fart will die before he finishes the saga. have you seen movie "misery"? :twisted:
if you haven't read the books it would still be a good watch. just good luck understanding it all since compared with books stuff really isn't explained at all. at times it feels the tv show is aimed at people who read the books since they seem to presume the audience knows stuff.
buy the first book and try reading it, no excuse unless you are a retard who doesn't like reading. cause the series is good but it will never be as good, and you will miss out on alot of the story, characters and general depth.
I dunno, I haven't really had trouble understanding any of it so far, seems pretty straightforward. I'll probably read the books at some point, but I'm not in a hurry, I've managed to live without them so far. I have enough shit on my reading list.Probably after watching the last episode of this season you'll want to know how it continues too much so you'll start reading. :)
Also, I dig the main theme. Epic strings and drums.
Just watched the first episode, seems to be pretty boring. Way too much sex and hardly any action. :|mh, who told you this is about action? I thought it was pretty clear by the trailers and promotion of HBO that this is rather a Fantasy Drama then Fantasy Action Series. Of course I could tell you there is plenty of Action and also some great battles to come especially in the second season. But if you don't like to take the time to get into a more complex story and many different characters this is certainly not for you.
mh, who told you this is about action? I thought it was pretty clear by the trailers and promotion of HBO that this is rather a Fantasy Drama then Fantasy Action Series. Of course I could tell you there is plenty of Action and also some great battles to come especially in the second season. But if you don't like to take the time to get into a more complex story and many different characters this is certainly not for you.
Its good.At least you get real tits there, not only implants like in Hollywood. 8-)
More tits for better programming seems to be HBOs philosophy.
I like HBO.
At least you get real tits there, not only implants like in Hollywood. 8-)
Atleast you get to view them.u get a cookie, hope this makes it better :P
I guess its nothing for me then, the english accents are horrible to listen to anyway..
Way too much sexwhaa? too much of what?
I guess its nothing for me then, the english accents are horrible to listen to anyway.
Very very very good series !
whaa? too much of what?
Very very very good series !
Watch the first episode and you know what I mean.sarcasm fail.
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...interesting, so your still watching? didnt you said the series is nothing for you?
Dont read unless u read the first book:
Don't open spoiler if you didn't read the books.(click to show/hide)
I watch episodes because of Sean Bean 8-)Don't read if you don't want spoilers:
Dont click on the spoiler if you haven't read the first book(click to show/hide)
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
Don't read if you don't want spoilers:exactly my thoughts.(click to show/hide)
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I didn't remember that the knight of flowers was gay in the book, is that right or just in the tv show?it was never clearly stated, but there were lots of hints about that
it was never clearly stated, but there were lots of hints about thatyeah, there are hints but I never got them, too.
I didn't remember that the knight of flowers was gay in the book, is that right or just in the tv show?
You little nerd need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of forum troll or whatever nerd shit you do.
You little nerds need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of medieval knight or whatever nerd shit you little aspies do.
visitors can't see pics , please register or loginLol,my thoughts exactly =). The guy's approach is too straight-forward.
Don't read if you don't want spoilers:Don't read if you don't want spoilers:(click to show/hide)
For episode 6. If you are too dense to work out what Ned stark realised:(click to show/hide)
i don't think that's the only reason for them to shag.why should it be different in the series? But your right, as far as i recall they didn't mentioned it so far.
but there is something what is in the books, and i don't know if it's gonna be in the series. targaryen kings used to shag their sisters in order to keep their blood line pure
episode 7 isnt out yet
Haven't watched Ep 7 yet, I'll wait :).I was close to get me ep7 but it isn't available in the quality I usually got, so I decided to wait. I'm glad I did so by now.
well... while reading, you often forget that the setting is fantasy world. it's more about politics and about what's inside of people's head. you can understand each character why did he do what he did. and after bit of thinking you can conclude - i'd maybe do something simmilar(click to show/hide)
Littlefinger: "Play with her ass"well there is no littlefinger's point of view in the books so far, the whole scene seems to be a way to tell people about Petyr's love
don't remember that scene in the book.
Something of an 'O SHIT' moment at the end there.
Something of an 'O SHIT' moment at the end there.
Yeah, I guess you wouldn't want your ten year old kid to see the lesbian anal fisting, although there is also plenty of blood and gore as well.
No spoilers, real or fake, kthxbai.
No spoilers, real or fake, kthxbai.good job! I dont have admin powers so I tried to discredit the spoilerer ;)
When is episode 8 gonna release?
good job! I dont have admin powers so I tried to discredit the spoilerer ;)
5th/6th depending on country
heres the preview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AoQQjkL2gc
Episode 7 was a really good one, also i think there are gonna be a huge fight in episode 8!Yeah, things are finally starting to move along.
Yeah, things are finally starting to move along.
Well, the first episode completely gave that one away. Didn't the book make it clear that Bran had caught the pair of them in the act?Of course Bran caught them them in the act as well in the book, but somehow you don't think that the children are Jaimes. Most of the differences between the books and the series come from POV-telling in the books. There are no POVs of Cersei, Jaime, Littlefinger, Lord Varys, etc. in the first Book. You only come to know them from the viewpoint of a Stark character. I think that makes this characters appear more mysterious and you have less sympathy and understanding of their actions.
Anyway, Bronn may not have been young in the TV show, but I'd hardly call him solemn. :lol:
im curious for non book reading watchers how obvious it was that prince jofrey wasn't roberts son, cause it was a pretty clever twist in the book but maybe it was too obvious in the tv series?
The only actor I really can't get warm with is Jon Snow, but ahh, can't be everything nearly perfect.
Downloading Ep. 08 right now, 'tis gonna be interesting :D.great episode. I'd like to say things are finally starting to move along if it hadn't been said a couple of episodes before. Also well written by George Martin of course.
The lack of the Black Fish made me sad and I still hope to see Roose Bolton in the next episode...
Just watched the first episode, seems to be pretty boring. Way too much sex and hardly any action. :|
mh, who told you this is about action? [...]
I guess its nothing for me then[...].
Finally some action in episode 5, 5 hours waiting to see some fighting...
Nobody's making you watch. If you're only interested in action, there's plenty of movies out there that'll suit you better.
Finally some action coming up.???
joffrey kills dumbledore
there is a lot of cock being shown latelybut of very different quality.
there is a lot of cock being shown lately
Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.
So.. having no knowledge of this series in advance, I feel the urge to spout my opinion:
Episode 1 was a huge letdown for me:
The first scene I thought it was some kind of Warcraft meets Romero movie. Blahblahblah evil zombiedemons blah. From the 3 lines I heard about it beforehand, I was hoping for less cheesy fantasy and more "realistic" fantasy, and then this as the first scene... *sigh*
Well, after that it didn't take long untill I had to burst out in laughter, seriously, this was not necessary:(click to show/hide)
Half an hour later I fell asleep. Nothing was happening. I'm not talking about action, I am talking about some story unfolding. There was none. Just a bunch of families that are in no way connected having a first appearance.
So yeah, a few days later, I woke up early, thought I'd give it another try and was hooked. Watched all 8 episodes without a break, can't wait for the next one. I still think the 1st episode was not well planned, especially the beginning, but if you get past that one, it's awesome.
Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.
Edit: one last rant: (episode 5 or 6?)(click to show/hide)
So.. having no knowledge of this series in advance, I feel the urge to spout my opinion:Nice you started liking it after all :)
Episode 1 was a huge letdown for me:
The first scene I thought it was some kind of Warcraft meets Romero movie. Blahblahblah evil zombiedemons blah. From the 3 lines I heard about it beforehand, I was hoping for less cheesy fantasy and more "realistic" fantasy, and then this as the first scene... *sigh*
Well, after that it didn't take long untill I had to burst out in laughter, seriously, this was not necessary:(click to show/hide)
Half an hour later I fell asleep. Nothing was happening. I'm not talking about action, I am talking about some story unfolding. There was none. Just a bunch of families that are in no way connected having a first appearance.
So yeah, a few days later, I woke up early, thought I'd give it another try and was hooked. Watched all 8 episodes without a break, can't wait for the next one. I still think the 1st episode was not well planned, especially the beginning, but if you get past that one, it's awesome.
Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "fuck you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.
Edit: one last rant: (episode 5 or 6?)(click to show/hide)
stark children... well... please, you who didn't read the books, guess their agenot much to guess, they are simply older in the series. I remember Sansa for example telling Cersei that she is 15 in one early episode. And the age of some others were mentioned as well.
Also, I totally love the sex scenes. Mostly because they are a big "cuss you" (pun intended) to the gore=ok,skin=evil fraction in this world. It totally fits with the story that is being told. It's a bloody, cruel world where women can sell their body for a coin or a crown. Either show both blood and sex, or nothing. Well done for that, too.
Very nice once again... next project, King's Guard armor :mrgreen:you know, there are straight people here too(click to show/hide)
Very nice once again... next project, King's Guard armor :mrgreen:(click to show/hide)
Episode 9(click to show/hide)
Episode 9 - don't read if not caught up(click to show/hide)
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Is it just me or is the serie starting to look like a cliché :?: its the same usual plot as we seen before n before how ever i haven't read the book so i wouldn't know how it ends but so far its the same baddies as we see in every other movie or serie like this1. :?
Anyways i still like the storie taken place with the blond whore over in the east ten times more interrresting than that of the bunch of rich spoiled kids fighten for power and prestige back in the 7 kingdoms
Is it just me or is the serie starting to look like a cliché :?: its the same usual plot as we seen before n before how ever i haven't read the book so i wouldn't know how it ends but so far its the same baddies as we see in every other movie or serie like this1. :?
Anyways i still like the storie taken place with the blond whore over in the east ten times more interrresting than that of the bunch of rich spoiled kids fighten for power and prestige back in the 7 kingdoms
Same usual plot? you have to be joking, so what other novel/show have you read/watched with a plot so similiar? the characters are superb, there has not been a better light fantasy/medieval show on tv ever, the characters are awesome. What do you expect from a Medieval era setting? did you ever study that era and learn that the whole thing consisted of people fighting for power?. I'm quite confused to where you've seen a show anywhere near as good as this in the same genre.+1
Nevermind, you must be watching a different show to me.
it was hillarious :)
Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible :?
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.
Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible :?
it was hillarious :)yup :D
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.
I didn't like how they portrayed Shae, she seems over 30 ffs.
Also Tyrion knocked out by his own men was terrible :?
wow :shock:. I thought shae was the hottest girl in the show so far.
For the Shae fans:
She's being played by a German-Turkish actress who used to do porn... Sibel Kekili is her name. :twisted:
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wow that Sibel Kekili did some filthy porn and then became an award winning actress. Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.
When I saw the Game of Thrones on the title, I was all excited to join the discussion
And then the [No Book Spoilers] showed up, I'm all "aww... too bad"
I read the whole series of The Song of Ice and Fire, and I certainly hope to see all of the 4 books filmed.
I read the whole series of The Song of Ice and Fire, and I certainly hope to see all of the 4 books filmed.If they drop the thing after 4 books/seasons I gonna drive myself up to NYC and chop the responsable persons into pieces with my 3x loomed cookies! Btw it would be cool if you could give heirloomed Items personal names.
I am peaved with ep 9 tho because they didn't even explain AT ALL how they captured jaime lanisterthat's because it doesn't matter. what matters is that they captured him
Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.
wow that Sibel Kekili did some filthy porn and then became an award winning actress. Her porn is pretty nasty, even does anal.
When I said no book spoilers I quite literally meant no book spoilers, not even in spoiler tags.ah, Ok.
I repeat my request for people not to post spoilers, even in spoiler tags. People are curious beings and revelations are but a casual click away.how about we make a seperate thread with spoilers allowed? Or do you think this would be too tempting as well to casual click it? (No irony here, absolute serious.)
Hold your tongue !Decapitation!
You know what happens to traitors ... :twisted:
I just watched episode 9, cant believe Ned Stark is dead, Joeffery is a goddamn pussy! i Hate that guy, also i hate his bitchy mom, and i hope they all are gonna die sooner or later...Damn im mad now!!!
Btw, im gonna buy the fucing book i havet got enough patience to watch all the episodes, i want them dead now!
Dude, Geoffrey is the coolest guy in the whole series. How can you hate him? :|
Dude, Geoffrey is the coolest guy in the whole series. How can you hate him? :|
He has one of them faces that deserve to be punched.
http://youtu.be/EKzkmAykyOo
little link for those who didn't read the book:
http://youtu.be/EKzkmAykyOo
it offers some explanations and things you can't know by watching the show. however, you could be distracted (as i was too) by breathing in of narrator.
I'm pretty sure virtually everything said there you would already know by watching the show.i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together
i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together
i think that in show there was no mention how ned and robert grew up together
Renly and Syrio are good. Renly is supposed to be childish (like "peach" scene in aCoK). But Jon Snow is weak, that's true. He has ALWAYS this same face.
Oh, and Ghost should be mute. In HBO's GoT he's... barking.
I found that the books started strong, but increasingly got too far-fetched, so that by the fourth book there is too much going on. No wonder there has been a 6 year gap until the next book. There are too many loose ends, and bs things happening.http://grrm.livejournal.com/217066.html
is ep 10 the last1?yes, its the last of season 1.
yeah, but something else is much "cooler" :twisted:
ROARRRRR (well, more like "weeee" for now)
Also we got to see khaleesi naked, AWESOME!
Like, a dozen times before
Don't tell me you didn't flop your donkey dick out, and started jerk off with your tounge out :)
No, because let's face it. It's not Xant that plays Khaleesi.
The Khaleesi has only been naked once or twice before ... but never looking so alive and powerful, to me that is far more attractive, even if she had still had clothes it would have been more attractive.
That finale, was simply awesome.
Even Sansa who I have pretty much hated for the whole show finally showed some real strength.
Even Sansa who I have pretty much hated for the whole show finally showed some real strength.
Yeah gotta agree there. I've hated her the entire series, but began to like her a bit more now.thats exactly as it is when you read the books.
Well, as you say, the actress is an adult. As I understand it, a lot of the characters' ages got changed for the show for that reason.haha yeah, that is some old healthy sneaky perv :P
I think my favourite part of the episode was the Lord Commander's moment of badassitude. The Grand Maester being revealed as a sly old coot was also funny. :)
Yeah that was the other great thing about the episode, it wasn't just main characters who had important scenes, there were some really great bits for the lesser seen characters like the Lord Commander, Grand Maester, Tywin Lannister, The Hound...etc...
We even got to see that mute assassin fella again, poor guy gets less air time than Rickon.but he will get more seasons than ned bean, thats plain.
I thought Theon had the best little insight bit and in the best part of the episode: "Am I your brother? Now and always?"i read books too i read books too la la la la la
awwww :oops:
One thing that always strikes me as a bit ridiculous about the Wall scenes is how for all their carrying on about how incredibly cold it is up there, hardly any of them ever seem to wear anything on their heads. Anyone who's ever lived in a colder climate will know that shit's just not gonna fly. :P
Now we need season 2 of The Walking Dead to fill the gap.
Yeh, of course there are lots of other factors, but bottom line is it looked pretty damn windy up on that wall. :lol:
Anyone out in -20 without a hat is in for some discomfort. -30? Enjoy not feeling your nose or ears. -40? Enjoy losing your nose and ears.
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It's summer. Even on the wall. It's not that cold during summer. I imagine it being from 0 to -20exactly. Of course you could then ask why the wall is only "weeping" and not melting, but i think at this point you can use the this is fantasy-argument.
But winter is coming :)
A friend told me this series would be really good and that I should watch it and indeed he was right, although some of the plot "twists" I saw coming a mile off. The one thing that struck me as really silly though wasYou see in the show that the dothraki are a nomadic "nation" with a functional hirarchie and that they are humans. For the council (medevial orientated) they are just a vague imagined bunch of barbaric animals. Like Viserys they think only with a proper Lord telling them what to do they could ever harm them. Very similar to the images the roman senat had from phoenician or later gothic "barbarians", ah there are dozens more similiar examples in human history.(click to show/hide)
One thing that always strikes me as a bit ridiculous about the Wall scenes is how for all their carrying on about how incredibly cold it is up there, hardly any of them ever seem to wear anything on their heads. Anyone who's ever lived in a colder climate will know that shit's just not gonna fly. :P
Have you ever watch Man vs Wild ?Yet we've seen a huge maggot in his mouth...
I've never seen Bear Grylls having something on his head.
Have you ever watch Man vs Wild ?2 things
I've never seen Bear Grylls having something on his head.
Yet we've seen a huge maggot in his mouth...
That image never gets off.
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2 things
1. i like him his show and all that, but - he's faker (if you want). he has a big crew, sleeps in local hotel, travels to location and shoots the show. when he gets cut or bruises, he whines alot when cameras are off. yes, he's ex badassmotherfuckingeliteforcesoldier, but now he is not and can whine and be pussy as any other man. he is a regular man who likes nature and regular camping. he knows what to do in extreme situations, but he doesn't need to live that way. it's just show
2. watch better ;)
nice armors, first one is kingsguard or jaime, third is lannister's men at arms, but the second? It seems Ned's outfit but it wasn't an armor if I remember it right
Is there a some link to this mod?
I see, my point was that norhtern armor seems to be mail with padded leather and not studded
Can you do this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yydcG9woWA)
Trailers and smallish spoilers for the new season and a release date. April 1st.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3--MIgihGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_AW6Bqnvqo&feature=fvst
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rOzXsqoJhtE
only a little over 2 months to go :D
http://vimeo.com/37958686 :mrgreen:love the three-eyed crows.
Can't wait :D
The annoying thing is I'm trying to read the books and finding it hard to read the first one simply because it is so similar, even down to the dialogue. Not going to get to the second book in time for the next series!
How good exactly does it get?Very.
Hey guys, I just watched the first episode,
How good exactly does it get?
The first 5 episodes are largely character building and back story. But once you hit episode 6-7 it really kicks off and you'll be hooked after that :)true, but on the other hand if you already know the story the first episodes are full of hints and anticipation of the story, which is awesome to (re)watch.
when does season 2 start exactly?
Hey guys, I just watched the first episode,
How good exactly does it get?
Hey guys just finished and all I have to say is(click to show/hide)
The guy who plays Stannis is horribly, horribly miscast.mh, I'd tend to wait a little for a final judgement. But for now I have to agree that he appeared far too relaxed.
mh, I'd tend to wait a little for a final judgement. But for now I have to agree that he appeared far too relaxed.
That was the least of my critique. Stannis is supposed to be an imposing figure with a deep and chilling voice. The actor is weasely and comes off as pompous when he's supposed to be serious.I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.
I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.
Wait a bit and we'll see.
I actually never imagined Stannis to be imposing. Rather grim, sullen and stubborn. But even then I agree, so far the the HBO-version lacks seriousness and strength. But his voice I like, actually.
Wait a bit and we'll see.
The biggest scene that erked me the most was Rob's scene with Jaime. They both did a good job for the most part but the last bit with the digital wolf felt incredibly contrived. It was like, yeah.. okay.. we get the point: Rob is a badass but the wolf scaring Jaime was a dumb and unnecessary exercise of their apparently new CGI budget.
Episode 02 is already available on the interbutts, in case you don't want to wait until next week.damn you, it's true. Now I won't resist to watch/d-load this night and then I'll have to wait two weeks for the next episode. :| :D
Peter Dinklage's fake accent, what are you talking about? What accent does he fake?
And as far as I remember him from interviews or other movies he allways talks like this. I could be wrong, especially as I'm no native english speaker.damn you, it's true. Now I won't resist to watch/d-load this night and then I'll have to wait two weeks for the next episode. :| :D
Episode 02 is already available on the interbutts, in case you don't want to wait until next week.
Renly was really the worst cast so far imo. Given the way they've painted him as a whiny bitch in the first season (nothing to do with his homosexuality, the way the whole homo thing was approached in the books I got more of a ancient Greek feel to it, i.e warrior like and not effiminate, as opposed to modern perceptions), I'm looking forward to how it plays out with Stannis.(click to show/hide)
Stannis didn't seem miscast as far as looks, not a fan of his voice though.
Renly was really the worst cast so far imo.agreed. hes supposed to look like king robert before he got fat. hes supposed to be very tall, strong and handsome and a warrior. instead we got this wimpy, ordinary looking guy. I also seem to remember him having long dark hair, they coudln't even get that right.
agreed. hes supposed to look like king robert before he got fat. hes supposed to be very tall, strong and handsome and a warrior. instead we got this wimpy, ordinary looking guy. I also seem to remember him having long dark hair, they coudln't even get that right.All in all I couldn't care less about all these comparisons between how they did it wrong compared to the books. The only important thing is that they the get the story done as a TV adaption which is working/coherent in itself. Of course they shouldn't make a new story out of it, but so long as it stays a very good story and very good tv show (which it seems to be) they are free to do some changes to characters or leave some story-arcs out and invent others, imo.
What the heck did they done to Stannis in ep2!?(click to show/hide)
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calling her mel sounds so wrong.
"BREAKING: Game of Thrones has been renewed for a third season. Share this update and spread the word across the realm."
From their facebook. No surprises really.
But nice to have it confirmed, anyway :)Indeed. Also who would have thought of this a couple of years ago.
Don't think it will take long before the TV show is waiting for the next book to come out ;pseems they bought themselves some time: "This one will cover (roughly) the first half or thereabouts of A STORM OF SWORDS, the third novel in the series."
it is retarded. even after the sixth book there is still loose ends, nothing happening in the plot just scattered characters.you are so fucking wrong, I only hope he lives long enough to prove it to people like you.
Martin will never finish the series because he is lazy fat fuck.
Yeah but look at dates of when books came out, we probably wont see the next book till 2020.
So there are about 4 seasons to come before they need a new book.
Yeah but look at dates of when books came out, we probably wont see the next book till 2020.oh, I wouldn't worry about the next book, five years seems time enough. But after that they will have to wait a couple of years for the last (If it will be the last). :D
it is retarded. even after the sixth book there is still loose ends, nothing happening in the plot just scattered characters.
Martin will never finish the series because he is lazy fat fuck.
best episode so far this season.
"I allways hated crossbows." :D
The plan, if were lucky enough to be given the opportunity to see it through, is to use as many seasons as we need to tell the story as a whole, to do justice to Georges entire opus.
I wonder why you enjoyed the first season at all...
Omg.. Second season is terrible :( Cheap production and terrible acting. Just finished the first 3 episodes - what a huge disappointment. NOTHING BUT BLA-BLA-BLA TALKING FOR 2 HOURS with extremely predictable dialogs! wtf?..
i like the 2nd season, the eps are getting better each week :)I thought the 3rd was best so far, but the last one right after that.
the end of the 4rth is awsome :twisted:Always use a condom.
Omg.. Second season is terrible :( Cheap production and terrible acting. Just finished the first 3 episodes - what a huge disappointment. NOTHING BUT BLA-BLA-BLA TALKING FOR 2 HOURS with extremely predictable dialogs! wtf?..
wtf that c... gave birth to?
wtf that c... gave birth to?Why, the promised son! Isn't he a beauty?
Battles are expensive. Hell they barely even mention the destroying of Jaime's army at riverun and whispering wood in the first season. Just that they sacrificed some men and captured him. I think they have a big battle scene towards the end of the season from what we've been hearing though.yes, exactly there is a big battle near the end of this season. It is the biggest and best described battle in the books as well, and it will be in the series and the script of the episode is written by Martin.
in all the episodes so far something happened that was really promising for the next episodes. yet in every next episode nothing happens except for the promising things for the next episodes. i start to think that this is how is it going to be forever.
last time i also almost thought i'm going to see a battle, but instead... "KING OF THE NORTH!!!" /cut /post battle scene
I am really impressed at how well Brienne is captured in the TV series, and the Mountain, too, not easy characters to make.Its a shame the actor from season 1 got a job in "The Hobbit", I fear I won't get warm with the new mountain, too skinny. But yeah, Brienne seemes to be awesome, she's 2 or 3 heads taller than Catelyn and she has the right look.(click to show/hide)
What do you think of the Greyjoys?Brilliant. I love the voice of Balon Greyjoy. And Theon tops it all,
A rather extensive interview with him (Skip to about 7:30 for the beginning of the proper interview):very nice interview there :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTTW8M_etko
It's actually very very interesting hearing about all of it from the guy himself.
What do you think of the Greyjoys?
Brilliant. I love the voice of Balon Greyjoy. And Theon tops it all,Yes, agreed. Pyke looked even better than what I had imagined (with the Eyrie looking completely different). Though Theon and Asha aren't as charismatic as described in the books they fill their roles very well(click to show/hide)
As well as the whole setting, scenery and costumes. Pike looks great.
I know you weren't asking me, but I thought it was hot as fuck when Theon Greyjoy was rubbing his sisters pussy.Asking anyone really, and yes, it's a great scene (and even better in the books, where it's quite a long ride :wink:).
Brutal episode with the riot.
I dont get this last episode, the lady of light or that redhead woman who gave birth to that shadow assasin-ghost-spirit thing, if she was on Stanis side where was she? Why she didnt use the shadow from her vagina to kill the lannisters like it killed that gay lord Renly? I sense obvious plothole here... :|haha, I sense obvious not-understanding-the-whole-thing here. Its not that easy with magic in this fantasy.
Humperdink
Someone's been watching the Princess Bride ;)
And Frederick
i hope they kill that fatty hiding behind a rock just at the start of the next episode. i hate that illogical character and his annoying voice. but im quite afraid he will again illogically survieve and i will have to listen to his gibberish until the end of my days.one of my favourite characters! :D
I'm more set back by his obsession to describe the families with metaphoric animals (which are their sigils as well) all the time. Also some of the family "words" are stupid "Hear me roar" wtf?
Why are those stupid? Historic noble families had similar mottos in their Coat of Arms. Modern military units have them as well. Have you noticed that countries nowadays also use animals metaphorically all the time, in their coat of arms and otherwise?To my ears some of these words sound strangely modern-american, not fitting into the rest. Maybe I'm wrong, perhaps I'll go check some example devices in the libabry... (unlikely, and what will it proof?) And I think some of the mottos are quite good (like "we do not sow")
zombies :oyes, and even the classic slow-type :P
one of my favourite characters! :D
Wtf is a daywalker?
Wtf is a daywalker?
Wtf how sbdy can ever like that one? All parts with him are the most boring and illogical ones, I can't imagine that in "reality" that fat clumsy pig would survive any march on a Night's Watch. I doubt he'd ever make any friends there. He just doesn't fit there at all and he should die, the sooner the better! I'd like to see him as a wildling zombie or what you turn into if you die there though...It is allways difficult to imagine how the characters would appear to me if I hadn't read the books, and maybe there are really some weaknesses of the show.
NOT SURE IF SILLY OR JUST STUPID?
the daywalker, you know, the zombie like creature that John Snow killed while one attacked the wall on season 1, they can only be killed with fire, they come from north of the wall, apparently people who die there turns to one if they are not burned upon death.
Its white walker...and wights?
White walker = Guy with blue eyes
Wights = Zombies
Daywalker = Wesley Snipes the Vampire Slayer
Yea my bad :oops:, but back to my point is there a connection between mansraiders army and that whitewalker horde we saw at the end, i mean are they allies or something?
If so house stark is about to be royally buttfucked in season 3 :shock:
Wtf how sbdy can ever like that one? All parts with him are the most boring and illogical ones, I can't imagine that in "reality" that fat clumsy pig would survive any march on a Night's Watch. I doubt he'd ever make any friends there. He just doesn't fit there at all and he should die, the sooner the better! I'd like to see him as a wildling zombie or what you turn into if you die there though...
Why do you doubt he'd ever make any friends there? He seems like a nice enough chap.Night's Watch is an army, and a very harsh one at that. He really wouldnt survive there, he does not fit in, an outcast. And not strong enough to live like that.
Why do you doubt he'd ever make any friends there? He seems like a nice enough chap.cause he's a pussy
Showmy old friends don't even know about my Red Wedding
Yes, it gets much worse for the starks
Ok, it gets worse. I figured it would. But, does it get better?
Any answer to this question, even "yes" or "no" would be a spoiler. But since you asked, no. GRR Martin is a huge troll :P(click to show/hide)
Garison, don't read the spoilers even if there harmless.(click to show/hide)
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btw, a question for those of you who didn't read the books: Did that ending with Jon Snow and Quorin Halfhand make sense to you?
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It was a statement generalized to fit all characters and parties solely directed at progress. Every story has a resolution and after six books, the displacement is ultimately null. It seems like a drawn out and cheap way to milk something at this point, with no near end in sight.
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:Well, it's definitely more entertaining than reading your comments, that's for sure.
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:Hey, people watch spartacus :wink:
how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
with piratebay.
(oh and s02e10 was fucking boring. should have just ended it with 09 which was pretty good, 10 just made sure i'm not at all thrilled for s03. i guess that can also be considered a good thing.)
oh and use eztv.it for TV shows, better speeds and consistency broseph.eztv uploads on piratebay...
eztv uploads on piratebay...
David Benioff noted during the airing of the second season that they would delay the introduction of several key characters first appearing in A Clash of Kings until the third season, citing the large number of characters already introduced in season two. Dan Weiss added that they couldn't afford to have people "waiting around" for their characters to become central to the plot.
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:
talking and other craphow they dare talking on screen!
how they dare talking on screen!
Dont act like u dont know what I was sayin and trying to be funny by taking a sentence out of context, that joke is way too old.Wasn't it funny? :cry:
Wasn't it funny? :cry:
such an awful show (and books) how can any of you watch this garbage? :evil:Stream: http://www.couchtuner.com/game-of-thrones-stream/ (http://www.couchtuner.com/game-of-thrones-stream/)
I disagree with episode 10 being 'boring', it's main purpose was to tie off the seasons happenings and to set up for the next season, which it did, my old friendET equus africanus asinus.
That's kind of the point - it didn't tie off anything. There's like 10 different story lines not resolved, the conversations were dull and meaningless, the plot nonexisting. Overall, S01 was way better than S02.
(Not hating the show overall, just think S10 was a huge letdown)
I'm sort off hoping they will just skip book 4. That was a piece of shit.I disagree. I am convinced once the series is finished, the ingeniousness of a Feast for Crows will be discovered. I enjoyed the book very much and it is exactly as smoothrich described with book 2, it sets ground for the finish of the series. You all will see.
I disagree. I am convinced once the series is finished, the ingeniousness of a Feast for Crows will be discovered. I enjoyed the book very much and it is exactly as smoothrich described with book 2, it sets ground for the finish of the series. You all will see.
As for S02E10 I fucking loved that as well, to see Tyrion lose everything he has build up in a single stroke by his father on his shitting horse, or Luwins death, or the destroyed throne room covered in snow and many other great scenes. Well, in case you didn't notice I am a bit of a fanboy of this series :D
On another note I am curious as well what they will do with Book 4 and 5 on screen, and I am pretty sure they will merge both books into 1 or 2 seasons without the character split.
And for what faults season 2 of GoT has, its one of my favorite shows that I've seen. HBO owns. Check out HBO's Rome if you want something similar and never seen it, its great!
big HBO fan here. Titus! A shame they cancelled that one.
Well to be honest the further story is not as interesting once Octavian becomes emperor of Rome, no more fights for power as Octavian stays on the throne till he dies at the age of 75 :Deh? I already posted that? strange.
And so it starts again:
Well at least he's told his editor and a few others what is going to happen. Worst comes to worst if he did happen to die or something before finishing the series I'm sure others would do it. It's happened before. Forgotten who the author was but there was a Troy series of books not long ago that were very popular, the author died before writing the last book so his wife and editor wrote the final one based on his notes.There's also Tolkien and the Wheel of Times guy.
Well at least he's told his editor and a few others what is going to happen. Worst comes to worst if he did happen to die or something before finishing the series I'm sure others would do it. It's happened before. Forgotten who the author was but there was a Troy series of books not long ago that were very popular, the author died before writing the last book so his wife and editor wrote the final one based on his notes.
too bad the story isn't that great. G RR Martin can't finish what he started 25 years ago. it takes like a decade for him to write a book.
Aren't you thinking of Wheel of Time? Robert Jordan died, its being finished by Brandon Sanderson. Jordan finished through book 11, Sanderson was hired by Jordan's wife to finish it based off of Jordan's notes and has done book 12 and 13 with book 14 (the finale) coming out next month.
After book 3 though, is when he began taking 10 years per book, and they became awful :(. Terrible pacing, no idea where to take the main plot (was originally going to be a timeskip, instead we get characters doing nothing for 2k pages) and all sorts of problems in between the really good bits of prose. Hopefully the tv series cleans those up cuz they are a disappointment.
agree with you, the first three are good, I read them twice. book 4 was disappointing after waiting 7 years, then another 7 for book 5 which is kind of shite.
2/3 through book 5 now. Book 5 is much better compared to 4, which was really boring.
Dunno why you guys dislike 5, i like it, maybe because it has Tyrion, Jon and Daenerys in it.
Though the daenerys chapters are boring like the Cersei chapters from 4, maybe because it are all courtly settings.
I am just wondering how season 3 and perhaps 4 will look like, as some small details deviated from the book, like the whole Bolton business.
I hope the show shuffles events around and heavily rewrites things to make the story much more interesting and cohesive after book 3. Book 3 alone is being split into two seasons as well, because of it being so good and full of content. Can't see them doing that for 4 or 5. Wouldn't mind seeing both books as 1 season to be honest.
Why does Tyrion have a nose damn it!
more and more new characters to confuse and spread the plot lines out until it is all a jumbled mess with loose ends that will never be resolved.
just like fat george does in the books to make more money.
so what you can find snow anywhere.
That's just geographically innacurate :D
Your spelling is inaccurate, ZING!
this fucking show is making nerds mainstream I hate it.
the movies were shit. is you were a fan of the books growing up you were a nerd, but the movies made that shit mainstream.
He was also an unrepentant racist.
Not sure I agree with you on that.
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Racism_in_Tolkien's_Works
Seems like just another case of looking for patterns because you want to see them.
He was an early 20th century Englishman. You don't think he had a Eurocentric worldview, reflected heavily in his work?Ah, lovely way to stereotype someone just because of a background and using said background as a negative connotation. I commend you for your imagination.
The subject matter speaks for itself.Hmm, really?
Heroic white race of men.Heroic race as in every race in the book had some degree of corruption and was hardly infallible, and every human race had a very long history of idiots or evil men, and every race making terrible mistakes in some point in history? Oh, as in every race proving that it can fall susceptible to the Ring which symbolizes evil and temptation? Ah, how heroic that the least fallible of all the cultures were the Hobbits, of all people, and even then they have proven themselves hardly infallible and hardly heroic as a race due to falling susceptible to murder and such things (Such as the origins of Gollum).
Brown "eastern" people corrupt by evil with no culture that are faceless enemies.Oh, so here we have you saying he had too much detail, and then now are blasting him on not giving enough detail to a mere minor plot device. I can't really support this notion because they are "faceless enemies" as simple as that is, and are hardly different from the corrupted and evil "white men" cultures mentioned in the books that tore themselves apart (Like the origin of the crypt wraiths?). Why should we pay attention to the faceless "evil" brown people and yet ignore the faceless "evil" white people? They are both minor plot points that hardly deserve more description then they already had.
Black people are literally subhuman savages created as a slave race to serve their masters.You mean inhuman monsters that only have one common attribute with black people, and that is the color of their skin? You mean the man-made demons? Oh, I see, so since they have literally only one thing in common, then they must be direct analogies to black people. So you're saying that if a culture/race in fiction is depicted as primitive, then it must mean black people? Oh... Oh my...
(I never read the silmarillion, maybe there is stuff in there)You should, best fantasy ever put to paper in my opinion.
No spoilers, but im going to declare it. if both parts of the third book are covered in this season, it will be THE best season.
The third book will be split into the next two seasons. They considered it far too big and complicated (the word more likely is, expensive) to condense into one season. That just makes me more excited, if anything. More time for the characters and scenes to breathe before shit gets real.
Who is that tortured guy on the cross? Don't remember that from the books.Christianity's propoganda
Who is that tortured guy on the cross? Don't remember that from the books.
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.
That plotline comes much later. Unless it's a one-episode mention "meanwhile..." and seized opportunity to show some quasi-gore, that mixes well with showing nudity in tv shows.
very boring episode. was reminded to check out sibel kekilli's early films which are very satisfying.
Still haven't watched it. Been two days and not a single good torrent out yet and my internet is to slow in india to stream it :(
New trailer (I think): http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/?ref_=hm_3p_vi2#lb-vi227386905
Seems like they're changing Robb's plan in the books from attacking Moat Cailin to Casterly Rock judging by the comments he makes here. I hope they at least set it up as creative and epic as they did in the books with Moat Cailin..
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Did you guys also have country music after the final scene off or was it just in my version?
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene off or was it just in my version?
As a guy who hasnt read the books, I found the buttrapescene a little too much as an idea. I suppose its what "men of the sea" do....
Did you guys also have country music after the final scene or was it just in my version?
just started watching SIII and i still wonder when is the fat guy in the north going to die?
the annoying never die, just like Carl in The Walking Dead, it's what keeps the rage flame burning and people watchin'
Reminds me that I liked it very much how Arya just shortly asks the Hound if he remembers the place and then it is left unexplained what she meant.what did it mean? is it the place where catelyn stark got her bannerdudes to rally around her or some shit?
fucking hotpie, i hate him and everything he represents
what did it mean? is it the place where catelyn stark got her bannerdudes to rally around her or some shit?
Yeah it's a rendition from one of the songs from the book. Totally killed it for me, I shut of the credits as soon as that song kicked in so as not to ruin it.
but i'd rather see him dead, that way he wouldn't be able to return to the series later on.
So i met a guy on DTV today named Jaime_The_Kingslayer! And he was rushed by bots and i said, "Jaime, need a... HAND"?!
AHAHAHHHAHAHAH
So anyone else think the guy who 'helps' Theon is the Bastard? Would make sense as to why the torturer chasing him says 'you little bastard' before receiving an arrow the face. Guess they are just giving Alfie Allen something to do this season. Same with Rob getting married in the second season as he isn't a POV character in the books.
You know what's weird? The way the Bastard is portrayed so far is almost exactly how I pictured...Theon, from the book descriptions. What really cinched it for me is when he wtfpwned those 4-5 dudes with a bow and "rescues" Theon. Book Theon is described repeatedly as an amazing archer, something that is never explored in the TV show. His hair colour and the arrogant little smirk right before he point blank shoots the last guy, also very book Theon. They really made TV show Theon even more pathetic than the book version, especially having his men betray him and escape during the sack of Winterfell.
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You know what's weird? The way the Bastard is portrayed so far is almost exactly how I pictured...Theon, from the book descriptions. What really cinched it for me is when he wtfpwned those 4-5 dudes with a bow and "rescues" Theon. Book Theon is described repeatedly as an amazing archer, something that is never explored in the TV show. His hair colour and the arrogant little smirk right before he point blank shoots the last guy, also very book Theon. They really made TV show Theon even more pathetic than the book version, especially having his men betray him and escape during the sack of Winterfell.
Damn making me wish my torrent would go faster. It tops at 25 kb/s :lol: Shitty India internet.
sweet! Praise that guy creating the languages, epic moment when danaerys starts speaking valyrian. holy shit that gave me the goosebumbs!
Yeah that was a moment that I had been anticipating for a while, it is a great moment in the books as well.
Also, I am loving the character of Margaery, I do not recall her being so great in the books. Yet again, I have not read this one since a couple of years ago, and I have forgotten a lot of things (like Craster's fight, I believed Mormont would die much later).
It was going great, then they rushed the dialogue with the UnSullied. it should have been more of a moment. If they were short on time, they should have cut some of the boring crap they toss in every episode. The first two episodes were rather forgettable. My wife watches them with me and completely forgot what happened in the 2nd episode a few days later (because not much happened). At least it is picking up steam now. The first couple of seasons were pretty much a great watch every show.
couldn't disagree more. this episode would be nothing if they hadn't set it up all carefully and enrich characters.
It's the same with the books. People say Storm of swords was great but then it got crap. Wait till it's finished, the next books will be so epic with everything set up in book 4 and 5. And it can only be great because of the careful preparation.
as for the scene I thought it was well-timed. The only thing i would have hoped for was a bit extended scenery how they freed the whole city and killed all the masters, probably would have been too expensive.
Bathtub scene with Brienne and Jaime was fucking good. Favorite scene of the last episode. It was practically verbatim translation of the book scene. Queen of Thorns has been expanded a lot compared to how often she appears in the books, but I gotta be honest fucking love her. The actress is perfect for the character.
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?Pointless? Did you miss the part about the lover being a spy? That scene allowed some information to transfer that is changing everybody's plans.
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?
Yeah the Queen of Thorns is almost exactly as I imagined her. Definitely one of the best parts of this series. Also love Tywin. Can never get enough of that guy. Utterly ruthless, an out right bastard but would make a brilliant King.Tywin is a boss, that guy got authority.
Watched first season and decided that's enough.
So what was the purpose of that another gay scene? Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?
Watch the rest. Definitely worth it.
Tot never had the chance to realize how awesome it was, considering he spent the whole first season just fapping and not actually listening.hu what´s that wire series about ? Now im interested :D
hu what´s that wire series about ? Now im interested :D
Do they seriously think enough gay people are watching this to make up for the people that just eyeroll in disgust or is it already the standard that in each primetime show there must be gay kissing regardless of how pointless storywise such scenes are?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0306414/If that's the scene with Omar and that redhaired guy that shit was pretty fucking hot.
Just finished watching episode 5...those 5 seconds of two guys kissing in a dimly lit room really disgusted you that much tot? Haha...
What about that part? Just look up the forums and check out the threads where people are unhappy about just having gay scenes in their favorite show in general. Risky move to include touchy subject like this, then again I guess that's what sells as they keep going with it even though it upsets part of their audience, even if that part are christards that get offended by anything.
Same case with dead children as for last episode, but this at least has some narrative value.
You two retards apparently are unable to talk about it without implying that the person who brought the subject is a bundle of sticks (great logic here), so maybe grow up first and we might come back to it later.
What I wrote is that I'm annoyed by crude implementation of elements in tv shows that were supposed to tell the viewer 'we're that hardcore, man!', ie. constant explicit nudity, those elements serve no purpose to the story. Now it seems having people of same sex making out joined that category.
You two retards apparently are unable to talk about it without implying that the person who brought the subject is a bundle of sticks (great logic here), so maybe grow up first and we might come back to it later.
Tbf, the way Renly and Loras's sexuality in the show is portrayed is waaaaay different from the books. In the books it was more a persitent rumour and everyone knew they were gay as fuck, but they were still macho dudebros who embodied the most respected aspects of masculinity . This parody video gets it 100 percent right. http://youtu.be/dWgCMIg-E9Y from 1:26 to 2:13. It's like they had to make them super flamboyantly gay because...I dunno, it's somehow more acceptable?
Mate, you're making out half of the episode was some massive my old friend gangbang, it wasn't, if it was I wouldn't watch it either. It was 5 seconds of my old friend on my old friend action and if that makes you decide the show sucks for that sole reason then I'm inclined to think you're not too comfortable with your own sexuality.
Apparently you're just an idiot who can't read.
Nobody talking about Sunday's episode?
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.well the ending of ep04 gave me a nice one :shock:
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.
Also, y u kill hooker with nice tits
Meh, I get how the GoT series work. The entire season is a slow build up to one massive orgasm that happens at the end. To be honest, I'd rather have multiple weaker orgasms throughout the entire season.Actually the third book has so many orgasms they needed to split it in two seasons :wink:
Also, y u kill hooker with nice tits
Have you read the books? Especially the book this season (and the next) is based on? Cuz lol
ESPECIALLY next season. The entire second half of Storm of Swords is balls2theWall
So what actually happened in this episode? The wildlings advanced 1 mile. Robb fucked his wife. Tywin walked down to the throne room and then back. Torture guy got tortured (why am I even supposed to care about this dude? He's utterly irrelevant.) The two girls had yet another chat about marriage. Dany does the same thing she's already done twice.
yeah, doesn't matter that much anyway. But somehow I missed the fierceness of Brienne in that scene. Was it due to my expectations or did she not appear rather helpless? I mean, she is helpless in that pit of course but I imagined it to show more how she is a bear of herself.
Nice episode with a good climax at the end (bear fight).
But I'm really sick of yet another "Theon gets tortured" scene. He gets way too much screen time and that story arc is even pretty much irrelevant until a certain person comes to the North.
Nice episode with a good climax at the end (bear fight).
But I'm really sick of yet another "Theon gets tortured" scene. He gets way too much screen time and that story arc is even pretty much irrelevant until a certain person comes to the North.
So what actually happened in this episode? The wildlings advanced 1 mile. Robb fucked his wife. Tywin walked down to the throne room and then back. Torture guy got tortured (why am I even supposed to care about this dude? He's utterly irrelevant.) The two girls had yet another chat about marriage. Dany does the same thing she's already done twice.
this how I feel about the whole book series. nothing happens by the end of book 5, and book 6 will never be completed because Martin is going to die of diabetes or heart disease.
And Tot. go read the books and the series will become alot better cause right now you are just keeping on saying the series sucks etc but you still watch it? Perhaps it wasn't you that said so but who knows :?
First of all, i never intended to be rude. And i'm rather so lazy so i couldn't bother doing that :idea:. And yes! That's exactly how i imply the readers/watchers of A Song of Ice and Fire :mad: And telling me to shut the fuck up won't solve it neither will downvoting my post :cry:
I guess in your mind someone's either uncritical fanboy or hater who should go read the books or, better, [who should] just stfu.
but in anals case I really wonder why he is still around, telling us how bad the story is. Maybe too some hidden love for it?
this how I feel about the whole book series. nothing happens by the end of book 5, and book 6 will never be completed because Martin is going to die of diabetes or heart disease.
I love the series, but yeah, I'm almost sure Martin will die of being a fat fuck before finishing it. At best there will be an incoherent mess cobbled together from his greasy, sauce stained notes.
Btw, Rob's wife got a fantastic ass.
Jaime is growing as a character in a very nice way, I love the brienne/Jaime story, beauty and the beast ;)
Yup thoroughly enjoyed that prolonged scene!
"Attack attack!" Bitch is craving cock lol.
Which one is the beauty and which is the beast
no episode this week.What the hell, those evil bastards!
What the hell, those evil bastards!
here is an excerpt from the next book in the series, which might be released before 2020 if we are lucky.what a shit writer.(click to show/hide)
This is a scene which I believe is fanmade and they made it look like it was cut from season 1. It contains major spoilers about the most popular theory in the whole ASOIAF book series.
It's a flashback of Ned which happens during Robert's rebellion against the Targaryens. If you have read all the books you probably know the theory but only if you read carefully
So watch at your own risk.(click to show/hide)
Some deleted scenes from season 2. Anyone who has watched season 2 can watch this without worrying about spoliers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEU_D6D7Je8
On the official HBO forums some people really go mad and threaten to cancel their HBO subscription.
they did the red wedding scene pretty well. I think the viewers may be disappointed that a lot of the good guys die, and maybe the show will be cancelled.
the blackfish guy left to take a piss before the slaughter began, I forget if he survived in the books.
You might want to put that part about the Lannisters in spoilers Overdriven.
Some twitter reactions
https://twitter.com/RedWeddingTears
Also, people can't really claim house Stark has any real major honor, I mean fucking Rob didn't honor poor Mr Frays deal regarding marrying one of his chicks.
My schadenfreude is off the charts reading those tweets. I'm not sure why, since I was shocked as well when I read it.For me it's the same - it's tasty to read all that rage and I don't feel bad for the people who are mad and curse GRRM or even HBO for killing their heroes.
People miss a lot of the point of the books. There is no real good guy bad guy scenario.
People miss a lot of the point of the books. There is no real good guy bad guy scenario.
Even if this is true. TV casuals like my self will always love the Starks and qq every time one of them dies. I don't know how the conflict is portrayed in the books but both Ned and Robb Stark are badasses and the lannisters twats in the TV-series.
RIP BED STARK
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I have a spoiler question though:(click to show/hide)
It is indeed true.(click to show/hide)
In studying literature there is a general precedent that the main heroes aren't supposed to be killed, because the reader bonds with them. this dates back to greek epics, etc.
however in Shakespearean drama there is this kind of thing.
usually the doomed characters have fatal flaws, which are hinted at earlier.
there is such a thing as too much tragedy, which leaves nowhere for the plot to go afterward except into a completely incoherent mess which is the rest of the story unfortunately.
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the story is all downhill from here.
feast for crows was crap
dance with dragons is crap.
too many new characters that no one gives a shit about.
plus all the dragon and magic crap which sucks.
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.
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believe it or not, game of thrones was on the syllabus of a course in my university. a lot of the students found that the prose wasn't especially well executed.Well if the students thought the prose wasn't especially well executed then I don't see how that couldn't be the truth.
i was a fanboi of the books until book 4 and 5.
i was a fanboi of the books until book 4 and 5.
of course this kind of popular crap appeals to the subhuman intellect of most crpg assburger children.
and then you got butthurt?
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allright sorry if I offended you and your fairy tales.
The thing about red wedding is that you should always listen to your mother! If Rob only did what his mother told him he would have had gorgeous wife and they all would be alive. Even Ned would be alive if he listened to his wife :D. Mothers always get to say "told you so", it's a law of nature.
no delete button?I have it :)
The thing about red wedding is that you should always listen to your mother! If Rob only did what his mother told him he would have had gorgeous wife and they all would be alive. Even Ned would be alive if he listened to his wife :D. Mothers always get to say "told you so", it's a law of nature.
can't really blame him for choosing love over an arranged marriage
I will wtach the last two episodes next Monday with three people who haven't read the books. I so hope nobody is spoilering it for them.
Best to stay off the internet then lol, it's being mentioned everywhereLol damn people can't handle their GoT.
bundle of sticks einstein worshipping chocolate chip cookie
Anal Bleeding is an obvious bundle of sticks troll (hint, his handle), but he has the glimmer of a point. As a fan the apex of the series for me was definetely Storm of Swords. I still feel it's the best book. Doesn't mean I don't enjoy the following ones, but as far as awesome moments and interesting plot twists it's far superior to ones before and after, so far. Bleeding seems to act like a betrayed, spurned lover about it. Either because he's a whiny entitled douchebag, or an obvious troll. I think the latter.
That's true, though the latest book was a lot better than the previous two.
oh goddamit I hate you all. so all main chars die or what? fuck you for even hinting sth like this, I wont visit this gay thread anymore QQvisitors can't see pics , please register or login
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winter has been coming for 16 years, awesome.
maybe it will get there in another 15.
winter has been coming for 16 years, awesome.Hey eh, seeing as you've been permabanned from cRPG for like half a year now, isn't it like time to stop shitting around on this forum?
maybe it will get there in another 15.
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This massive butthurt after the wedding episode smells a lot like clever viral trying to reproduce the outrage/ free marketing after s1 ending.
Yes, massive conspiracy where the fans and producers of the show got together blabla
Non standard ways of generating publicity are conspiracy now?
Americans, lol.
Listen to the word "VIRAL"... Sounds so young douchy and hipster. I want to vomit...
This probably says more about you than about the world "viral", which is a term that comes from the word "virus" and how they spread and whatnot.I know where the word comes from. I never just liked the sound of it. I guess the virus imagery fits the phenomena of popularized internet memes. I always preferred "cancer" but I guess it's too bold for main stream media and Fox news.
God damn that dragon bitch is fine though, ooooweeeeeee. :o
are any of these chicks in porn besides sibel amigoli?
http://hypervocal.com/entertainment/2013/game-of-thrones-porn-past/
(http://hypervocal.com/entertainment/2013/game-of-thrones-porn-past/)
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Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
Are you seriously pretending viral marketing isn't a real thing?
Haha I love this music video:
Viral marketing is a corporate entity creating an object that is then adopted and distributed by consumers. What it is NOT is spontaneous reaction to material like a movie that then is captured and distributed by consumers themselves. Using the term viral marketing implies that HBO or the producers worked with fans to fake the "reaction" videos and all the outrageous comments on Twitter on other social media, hence a "conspiracy" to further the popularity of the show and bring in more viewers by an orchestrated effort.
Sometimes a fuck is just a fuck, and a reaction is just a reaction, and not some corporate media scheme to drum up more viewership. The red wedding isn't some secret and nobody knew what was going to happen. Tons of people knew what was going to go down (and plenty of viewers who have only seen the series didn't), and knew people would be going "Oh WTF??" when it happened.
But hey, go on thinking it was a scheme by the corporate overlords to milk more money out of the dumb shmucks by creating a "viral marketing campaign" out of it. Personally, I think you give them WAY too much credit and I'm certain they WISH that they could create a campaign like this one on purpose. How's that tinfoil hat fitting? (Ozin quoted, but obviously directed at Tot.)
Khaleesi has a thing for long haired men it seems :D.(click to show/hide)
Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
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Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
Anyone else feeling really bad for Jorah? He's getting friendzoned really badly.
He says the show will catch up to the book series in two years, and he will turn it over to the screenwriters to make their own ending.
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.
Lost :|
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.
Watched and enjoyed the first season, went wtf on the 2nd and never watched again. Glad I made the right choice.
Oh cmon...there's no comparison of her (a 16 year old) and actual women...even compared to Sansa(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
Girls don't even compare to women :)
It's somewhat reassuring to hear he has a grand plan - too often stories (especially TV series, but can be the same for book series) are just continued as long as the cow gives milk - with weird unrealistic plot jumps just for the sake of it.I believe he has, but let us be mindful that american writers (as far as I know) get paid by number of pages :)
Watched and enjoyed the first season, went wtf on the 2nd and never watched again. Glad I made the right choice.
After reading so much about it everywhere on the internet, I was like this:
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Late to the party as usual, I'll look into it during this weekend.
Very much looking forward to that, and Joffrey's wedding.(click to show/hide)
Very much looking forward to that, and Joffrey's wedding.Epic forumname you got there buddy. :D
Read the fucking title, "Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]", retard.(click to show/hide)
After reading so much about it everywhere on the internet, I was like this:
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Late to the party as usual, I'll look into it during this weekend.
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I'm a douchebag.
I'm dumb.Can this douchebag just get permabanned from the forum like he is from the game?
Can this douchebag just get permabanned from the forum like he is from the game?
Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.(click to show/hide)
Do you think we can make the person above honour his name? Or should he just pull his head out of his ass and stop saying bullshit that does not even happen?
Seriously dude, stop being such a retard. There are people who want to watch the series and not have it spoiled, let alone be misguided by the likes of you.
But.... but... I even made a spoiler alert :cry:
Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.
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Tbh I dont get these guys who tell others to read the books. Currently im rather happy with the fact I havent read any of em jet. Im planning to, but not just yet. Its just that when I would have read the books and than watched the series, id be all like "ahh, they left that out, they left this out, this scene was missing". I am much more happy by watching the series not knowing at all what to expect and than later read the books, which...atleast im quessing will fill the missing gaps and scenes, keeping me entertained even thou I know the basic stuff. Atleast thats my point of view. Am I wrong? Cause I dunno, like I said, didnt read the books yet.
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much rejoice that the rabid warmonger is dead and a proper ruler (Tywin) can bring peace and stability. /nerdsprache off
Twyin is a terrible politician, commander, and father, if you haven't noticed.I couldnt disagree anymore. Shit father yes, but terrible politician and commander....naaaah.
Well I guess this was it. See ya in this thread again in one year :|.
Robb is one of the biggest assholes in the series so far, and the one guy with the least possible claim to be king. people claim Robb had "honor" and shit like Ned, but really, he goes against his fathers wishes and tries to become king with no real claim on the throne besides "WOLVES AND SHIT! NORTH!", he betrays Walder Fray the second Walder isn't needed, and the only reason he punished that Karstagg guy was because he was afraid of what the Lannisters would do to his sisters. Glad that guy died.
Actually, Tywin and Robb never meet in the field. As far as their deployment of forces, Tywin's strategy was pretty good from the outset. The Northerners have to march down the Kingsroad, move to meet them at a spot where he has the advantage, besiege Riverrun in the meantime, and raise a third host to supplement either one of your two original hosts. Of course, people on this forum expect Tywin or Stannis or whoever it is they are bashing to think of every possible permutation, but in reality, almost no one can do that or can afford to take the time to prepare for every eventuality. The fact is Tywin didn't expect Walder Frey, a man whose son is married to Tywin's sister and whose grandsons are fighting under Lannister banners, to support Robb Stark in this conflict, or that a Northern force that would max out at 25,000 would successfully split into two forces and destroy Jaime's host of 15,000. Or that Robb would have a magic wolf that would find a secret goat path past the army guarding the only passage into the Westerlands.
Well, Robb never won a batlle against Tywin himself, Robb won Jaime and Stafford, but Tywin was never a commander of the army Robb won. But, Robb proved to be excellent commander but worst politician, while Tywin is excellent politican and decent commander. You have to be both to win the war, and Tywin was, and Tywin won.
Robb is one of the biggest assholes in the series so far, and the one guy with the least possible claim to be king. people claim Robb had "honor" and shit like Ned, but really, he goes against his fathers wishes and tries to become king with no real claim on the throne besides "WOLVES AND SHIT! NORTH!", he betrays Walder Fray the second Walder isn't needed, and the only reason he punished that Karstagg guy was because he was afraid of what the Lannisters would do to his sisters. Glad that guy died.
Robb doesn't claim anything but the North iirc, which makes him an independentist dipshit no better than Stromcloaks or something.Well it is pretty clearly described that the Northerners are very different from the Southerners and they are not that connected with what goes on in Kingslanding or anything south of the Neck really. Them trying to go independent makes very much sense in my opinion, as the only reason they weren't were OP dragons.
It was quite the laughable scene when Joffrey asked more stupid questions from Tywin from his bigass chair. And than Tywin just walked closer to him and he had that nervous look and started gulping like he was afraid his grandpa is gonna tear him a new one. I find it rather okay that he is a total douche all the time nonstop. It makes sense. He has always been rich, always gotten everything he wanted, doesnt know anything about the life outside, thinks that the title king means supreme god of everything. If you also got all that nonstop your entire life you would be the same. The totally douchebag part I get. But I find it acctually stereotypical that he is also stupid, unable to think ahead, easly manipulated and a complete coward all at the same time. I mean its like this character was written to have absolutely every bad nature a human could possibly have to make sure we would hate him enough. Because BY GOD if we didnt.....(click to show/hide)
Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Re: HBO's Game of Thrones. [No Book Spoilers]
Just watched episode 10. When Bran and his companions went north of the wall... i've never laughed so much in my entire life. 'I really do' and then they pulled him out on his wagon ^^
Well it is pretty clearly described that the Northerners are very different from the Southerners and they are not that connected with what goes on in Kingslanding or anything south of the Neck really. Them trying to go independent makes very much sense in my opinion, as the only reason they weren't were OP dragons.
I don't think that's a weakness. His 'evilness' is still very human. He's a kid who has been handed power on a plate and has turned into a terraway brat with no one to control him until Tywin turns up. Seems pretty normal. His 'evil' fantasy's (abusing the whores) are the kind of thing that happens out in the real world all the time. So he comes across as very real to me.
How is he normal? He's literally a sociopath. Ok, I guess sociopaths exist in RL, so it's...normal? I think it's hinted at very strongly in the books that Joffrey didn't just "turn" into a sadistic little cunt. Remember the story about the cat and it's litter of kittens, and why Robert punched him in the face? Torturing small, harmless mammals as a kid (with no realization you are doing anything wrong) is a pretty clear sign of being a friggin psychopath. No one needs to be taught to feel empathy on that level, it comes naturally.
If Twyin was so good at politics, you'd think he would have a proper heir secured. Instead he originally failed arranging marriages for Jaime and Cersei (one to Rhaegar, I forget who Jaime was supposed to get), horrifically abused his third child Tyrion who could've been an excellent heir, got outmaneuevered by the Mad King (who permatrolled Tywin) in having his oldest child appointed to the KG, and also managed to never remarry after his wife (who was probably raped repeatedly by Aeron and this possibly gave birth to Tyrion) instead wallowing in depression and having no more kids.
Also the idea that he was such a good hand who kept the realm stable is pretty funny, considering during his rule the entire kingdom collapsed into civil war and his royalist side got destroyed. His gruesome slaughter of the Dornish royals during the sack of King's Landing led to them hating Lannisters permanently. Tyrells are already usurping all the domestic power in the capital on the TV series even. Now he just massacred the high lords of the North, further undermining his respect and crediblity for him and the Lannister name for generations to come. This is just being an idiot obsessed with short-term goals, with long term political consequences that will ruin their house.
Commander wise, he lost a battle to fucking Edmure Tully, the stupidest most inept person in the series (in the books, in the TV show the Mountain was leading the battle) His campaign in both versions against the North was just him getting trounced every time.
All he has is a lot of money and a lack of ethics. He isn't very intelligent, and
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Regardless, the other stuff is indeed correct. But at the current point he is the head of the most powerful family in Westros and has just gained control of huge swathes and knocked off his biggest opponent with some power play. If that isn't demonstration enough of his abilities I don't know what is.Well, Tywin was born as the head of a family which literally sits on a mountain of gold, surely that starting advantage gets you in a rather easy position to navigate your way to power. The real bawses are Varys and Pinky who were born with nothing.
Well, Tywin was born as the head of a family which literally sits on a mountain of gold, surely that starting advantage gets you in a rather easy position to navigate your way to power. The real bawses are Varys and Pinky who were born with nothing.
Anyone else finding the Hound pretty much the most intriguing character? I still haven't figured out what his deal is. Sometimes you see him comitting extremely cruel acts, only to then be a chivalrous bastard with a sense of righteousness. Pledged himself to the Lannisters, obedient as a dog to Joffrey, and then he gives a spot on analysis of the hypocrisy of knighthood. Dunno if it is bad writing but his character is surprising me all the time. I am curious what role he is going to play in the big picture, especially since Beric said that he should be left alive as apparently the god of light has a purpose for him.
Jofrey is a psycopath, he was born that way. Upbringing is prety irrelevant at this level.
I don't think you understand much about psychology. Things like this is still being debated by professionals. Most mental illnesses seem to have a high correlation to things like childhood abuse or other bad parenting/environmental factors.
He butchered a preagnant cat in childhood.
Guys, it's a fictional character.Pfff, how dare u spout such reality to us. Spoiler pls :evil:
Guys, it's a fictional character.
Guys, it's a fictional character.
Some of Walder Frey's daughters are real gems, especially that blond one with long hair and her daddy's nose.
Anyone else finding the Hound pretty much the most intriguing character? I still haven't figured out what his deal is. Sometimes you see him comitting extremely cruel acts, only to then be a chivalrous bastard with a sense of righteousness. Pledged himself to the Lannisters, obedient as a dog to Joffrey, and then he gives a spot on analysis of the hypocrisy of knighthood. Dunno if it is bad writing but his character is surprising me all the time. I am curious what role he is going to play in the big picture, especially since Beric said that he should be left alive as apparently the god of light has a purpose for him.
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I knew you would have noticed that pearl of beauty.
Just for you(click to show/hide)
o crap i just clicked those spoilers without even realizing they were actual spoilersI thought of making a spoiler mountain to climb, but thought that anyone with a little head would take the hint with those 2...
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i will hate you forever Moncho even though it was my fault
o crap i just clicked those spoilers without even realizing they were actual spoilers
;_;
Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she
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I thought of making a spoiler mountain to climb, but thought that anyone with a little head would take the hint with those 2...
It says it pretty clearly
Adding a few, dont want to spoil anyone else's fun :(
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This is exactly how I feel about acquiring Game of Thrones:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones
HBO, I'm trying to give you my money, why won't you take it?
I refuse to wait until the season's over to buy it on DVD, I refuse to wait years for it to come out on Netflix. I will never again have a cable or satellite tv program subscription. If you want to offer a subscription to your content online, I'll gladly hand over money to watch. I'll gladly pay per episode to watch.
Not really, it is more of a traditional man vs an innovative and powerful woman.
I quite like Melisandre, with her innovative ideas and her visions, that are a very powerful tool, and hope that she
Because Giving birth to demons and burning people alive is a good thing.I did not say she was "good", noone is in the entire series, they all follow their own (selfish) interests, using methods like assassination, betrayal and double crossing at every step, not fulfilling agreements and so on.
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Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend. :)
If you havn't already done so - feast your eyes on "Tudors" and "Borgias"!
Guys, is "Game of Thrones" really as deep, as you seem to imagine it to be?.. If I understood correctly, the story isn't finished yet. He is just writing it according to tv-ratings, lack of ability to connect the countless loose ends, and financial guidance from investors. When there is no more money to make - he will wrap it all up in a single weekend. :)
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I can recommend the Borgias as well, to quench your thirst while you wait for GoT :wink:
That was actually surprisingly good :lol:
He is just writing it according to tv-ratings
I just finished watching the most amazing show - House of Cards. Best stuff since long ago.
I just finished watching the most amazing show - House of Cards. Best stuff since long ago.Thanks for the reference, looks interesting, not sure if I should watch this or Boardwalk Empire first.
I can recommend the Borgias as well, to quench your thirst while you wait for GoT :wink:
So the new season will start on 8 July or?
I hope they cast Oberyn well.
I wonder if they will cast any of the Greyjoys who we haven't seen yet. Damphair could probably be cut although he is a POV character in the book. Euron could be merged with Victarion to make it less complex.
Owen Teals will be returning as Alliser Thorne for Season 4.
His character is one of the prime examples of shitwriting in the show, on pair with 'french sleeves'.
His character is one of the prime examples of shitwriting in the show, on pair with 'french sleeves'. He was sent to King's Landing like 27 episodes ago and they, well, forgot about him.
Well to be fair it is quite the same in the books. It's something George Martin likes to do.
Stannis just found out about the situation at the wall, I can imagine that Alliser Thorne will show up at King's Landing now (if he was going to ever). But his going to King's Landing isn't really that crucial to the story since they just ignore him anyways. It's supposed to signify how important and serious a situation it is for them to have sent their old Master at Arms, but I still think the end result (they brush him off) is enough to not necessarily include him in the show.999renown
Just checked a game of thrones wiki and it says Alliser Thorne will be back in season 4...so maybe I was right (they were just waiting until now)
I'm sorry but that previous post wasn't a spoiler. You were discussing events after that.
Pedro Pascal has been cast as Oberyn Martell. Never heard of him...
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But he comes close to what I envisioned him to be.
http://winteriscoming.net/2013/06/red-viper-cast/
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just so you know: he is not really a Stark guy but the brother of Catelyn and Edmures uncle, Brynden Tully called the Blackfish.Gotcha, im only going with HBO series knowledge here, well i hope series 4 will bring them to limelight more often now that
Saddam Husseins oldest son was alot like Jeoffrey. Sick fuck. Read about him. Or watch the movie about him
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270262/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uday_Hussein
So yeah, saying that the Jeoffrey is acting "unrealistic" is wrong.
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It's time for casting news again.
Mace Tyrell, Lord of highgarden, father of Margaery and Loras
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I always imagined him to be fatter and maybe a little younger.
Yeah you may be thinking of Garlas or whatever his name is, the brother of Loras and Margaery. But I don't think he even exists in the TV version. Mace Tyrell is repeatedly described as a fat idiot who THINKS he's a military genius.
Wheel of time?
Anyone got any recommendations on books that may be similar to these?
The Accursed Kings
is a sequence of seven historical novels by Maurice Druon, of the Académie française, about French kings. The novels take place during the reigns of the last five Direct Capetian kings and the first two Valois kings, from Philip the Fair to John II. The plot revolves around the attempts of Robert of Artois to reclaim the county of Artois from his aunt Mahaut.
I remember them as pretty damn good, but have read them when I was really young, so dunno...
Witcher's saga
First 3 parts, The Last Wish, Blood of Elves and Times of Contempt were translated into english. In a few countries Witcher's saga was elected as best fantasy books ever, even over LotR.
First Law
Joe Abercrombie
Mistborn
B.Sanderson
It's too bad that Abercrombie writes unrealistic feminist worlds, likes having protagonists that are female and somehow better fighters than men.
I feed trolls often. Everyone needs to eat.It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.
A) It's fantasy, so culture can be whatever the author wants it to be. Women in masculine professions are not unheard of in history.
B) I know plenty of females who can, without a doubt, kick our asses.
C) Pretty sure his best fighter, on the nerd ultimate arena scale, is a man.
It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.
And no, you don't know a single female who could kick my ass.
While some of them are married or in long-term relationships, there are more who are not.That's nice, but I'm not looking for a date at the moment.
It isn't about culture, sadly, it's about reality. Women simply aren't built to be fighters.
And no, you don't know a single female who could kick my ass.
Xant knows all! Xant the unbeatable by females! Xant also knows if you know any Female MMA fightersXan't doesn't know if he knows any female MMA fighters.
You little nerds need to go outside for once in your life instead of pretending that you are some kind of medieval knight or whatever nerd shit you little aspies do.
You know that you also registered on this forum, which makes it safe to assume you also bought and play MaB:W-C-rpg (because what the fuck would you be doing here otherwise?), which makes you a hypocrite and a colossal moron?
Good lord man, you replied to a post that was written more then 2 years ago by a dude who hasnt been online for more then 1 and a half years. You are not very good at this internetthing, are you?It's not like Nightmare is exactly known for his smarts.
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They say I'm like Tyrion. Not sure if this is a good or a bad thing...
damn :oops:
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She is one of my favourite characters, although her storyline becomes rather boring later (hope they do not regard this a spoiler). It could've get worse for you. I wonder if they have Hodor in there, too
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There's no need for "from what I can gather" there
damn :oops:
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same here :oops: :oops:
I'll break you with my bellend.
Well then he fitted perfectly because book Daario is the most annoying person east of Westeros :)
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It's too bad that Abercrombie writes unrealistic feminist worlds, likes having protagonists that are female and somehow better fighters than men.
And as it turns out, they aren't even equal thinkers:
In 1994, Lynn concluded in a meta-analysis that an IQ difference of roughly 4 points does appear from age 16 and onwards, but detection of this had been complicated by the faster rate of maturation of girls up to that point, which compensates for the IQ difference. This reassessment of male-female IQ has been bolstered with meta-analyses with Paul Irwing in 2004[45] and 2005[46] which found a difference of 4.6 to 5 IQ points [5].They saw no evidence that this is due primarily to the male advantage in spatial visualization, and concluded that some research previously presented as showing that there are no sex differences actually demonstrates the opposite. A further study of 1,258 11-year-olds in Mauritius derived a difference of more than 6 IQ points.[47]
Lynn has written that "at the near-genius level (an IQ of 145), brilliant men outnumber brilliant women by 8 to one. That's statistics, not sexism" and "When it comes to IQ, men and women - at least once they've gained adulthood - simply are not equal."[49]
Maybe, but it still ends up with men leading with 5-6 IQ on average.
From what I've read, the curve for IQ for men bombs slightly at either end, meaning there are more genius level AND substandard IQ men than there are women. The curve for women is much flatter, with a greater proportion of women with average intelligence when compared to men.
I don't really understand what the average IQ of billions of men and women have to do with any particular woman or man. You can find retards and geniuses in both categories. Your intelligence (or lack of) has no bearing on mine.
Can you start your own topic if you want to derail this GoT's thread?
IQ tests correlate extremely highly with g. So yes, it's representative.
Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, ah... it says on your chart that you're fucked up. Ah, you talk like a my old friend, and your shit's all retarded.(click to show/hide)
I don't really understand what the average IQ of billions of men and women have to do with any particular woman or man. You can find retards and geniuses in both categories. Your intelligence (or lack of) has no bearing on mine.Absolutely, averages are completely useless when looking at individuals. Xant's casual misoginy aside, which I suspect is mostly played for trolling potential than anything else, generalizations about more than 3 billion people are going to fail.
Can you start your own topic if you want to derail this GoT's thread?
I wonder if Cersei Lannister doesn't like wine a bit too much.
The dragons had another growth spurtBadfuckingass
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New season started already?starts in april m8. I'm rewatching s3 right now. :)
Oberyn is gay. I knew it.
Oberyn is gay. I knew it.
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So this is why this Oberyn guy is so angry:Careful, spoiler:(click to show/hide)
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Anyway, I liked the Episode. At least more than any previous episode, probably thanks to Sandor.
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Not enough Stannis praise in this thread. I absolutely hate how they changed Stannis in so many ways in the tv show, portraying him as a puppet of Melisandre. They defnitely need to get him back on track.
I think the biggest weakness of the show, and the books, is that any really interesting characters GRRM introduces he kills off/sends away very quickly. The setting and stuff is good, but when the only characters left are some gay women-creatures and a midget, there's nobody to root for.
I think it depends on what you would call an "interesting character", but I agree that since Ned Stark's death there is no real "good guy" left to root for (though it's my guess that this is exactly what is intended).I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.
I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.
I don't care much for "good guys", but interesting characters like Bronn (still alive but being a knight off-screen somewhere in the books), Oberyn (around briefly...), Jaqen, Jaime (changes a lot after his hand gets cut), Qhorin, Benjen and Syrio have all been more or less done away with. What's left of the cast wouldn't be an odd sight in an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.Yeah I agree, it seems Martin gets kicks of introducing characters he knows people find fascinating and for whom they root and then letting them die or disappear, it is super clever because it is unpredictable or something. In the end though he shoots himself in the foot majorly as he just leaves most of the writing going on about a bunch of weepy goody two shoes. I still find Jaime quite interesting and Sandor Clegane is one of my favourite characters, however both seem to be progressing towards being boring. Also, I really hate Daenerys as a character and while I am on that subject, the cast switch for Daario is a huge turn for the worse.
Sons of Anarchy
Just started watching that a week ago, have like 6 seasons to catch up on, no spoilrz thanks.
Spoilers: It's good.
Spoilers: It's not good if you're expecting Game Of Thrones, Rome, Spartacus etc.. softcore sex scenes at every episode.
Yeah I agree, it seems Martin gets kicks of introducing characters he knows people find fascinating and for whom they root and then letting them die or disappear, it is super clever because it is unpredictable or something. In the end though he shoots himself in the foot majorly as he just leaves most of the writing going on about a bunch of weepy goody two shoes. I still find Jaime quite interesting and Sandor Clegane is one of my favourite characters, however both seem to be progressing towards being boring. Also, I really hate Daenerys as a character and while I am on that subject, the cast switch for Daario is a huge turn for the worse.
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Even without tits, Game of Thrones and Rome are better than Sons of Anarchy, it's still pretty good though.
Inb4 sir Loris and prince Oberyn gay orgy.
Am I a homophobe to find these scenes pointless? Most sex are supposed to/do add something either plot or character driven to the show. All the gay scenes have just been... well gay.
Joffrey's actor is amazing. Watch some interviews of that guy, he seems like a super nice and humble dude.. and yet he manages to portray one of the biggest dicks ever on the show, and people legit hate him.
Yeah, I don't even know if I want to watch the series after this. He was such a key character in the show that it'll just seem strange to watch after this.
... Not to mention why the dwarf gets to marry the rather hot red head (Is she showing her tits too?) ...Sorry to disappoint you but the actress Sophie Turner is only 16 so you have to wait for two years to see some Stark tits. :D
Sorry to disappoint you but the actress Sophie Turner is only 16 so you have to wait for two years to see some Stark tits. :DYea, I was afraid of her being too young. She's 13 years old at the start of the series... well, her character is at least.
Yea, I was afraid of her being too young. She's 13 years old at the start of the series... well, her character is at least.
And what's up with 95% of the chicks being gorgeous
You need to get laid, the young ginger lady is quite mediocre when it comes to looks. Now khaleesi on the other hand... come to papa you fiery peroxide hair prostitute and lets make dragons togetherBlond hair with strong dark eyebrows... looks odd!
And about watching it by knowing how the story more or less goes, it doesn't really matter, otherwise people who have read the books would not be able to watch it, since we know what's coming (even if at some point we believe a different thing is going to happen next)People who have read the books have already experienced the entire story in its full glory, progression through the story without knowing what will happen next. Watching the series afterwards is nice because you see it visualized in a different manner than you did in your head. This isn't a damn sitcom, just hopping in and watching some episodes messes with your first experience of the story.
Blond hair with strong dark eyebrows... looks odd!
She can't be 16 cuz everything with blank tits has to be 18+ irl...
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i dont know if this has been mentioned before but the Character Shae, is played by a former pornstar.A German former pornstar at that.
A German former pornstar at that.
that stuff he does to those 2 perfectly fine whores the Imp send him... this fucking cunt, Jesus, I was raging at that scene :P
Half-Turkish is she too...
Anyway, love the Imp, the little Stark daughter is adorable and I despise the elder Stark daughter, Sansar or whatever her name is. Ohhh... and I hate the incest bastard King, that stuff he does to those 2 perfectly fine whores the Imp send him... this fucking cunt, Jesus, I was raging at that scene :P
Sansa is gonna rekt Westeros with her newly accuired skills from a certain guy that's the master at the Game of Thrones. Atleast, that's what i believe, George may kill her off in a second.(click to show/hide)
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Not for me. I'ts certainly better than her hanging around in King's Landing all the time, especially with what happens between Lysa and Petyr (Dude, how I hope that this guy will die), but to me Sansa now seems a bit stranded at the end of the world now.
Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once :(
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EDIT: Watched the latest episode and I have to confess that I have reached the point where all these sex scenes do annoy me more than they entertain me. Is something wrong with me?
IMDB boards are going nuts over "rape" in this episode. Even though... it was obviously not rape. Didn't even cross my mind before I saw the 10000 threads about how horrible the rape scene was.
People must have pretty weird ideas about rape if they think it's normal the woman pulls the rapist closer to her and kisses him. Clearly it was just a "I want to but we can't, not here, uhhh, pls jamie stahp (not rly dont stahp) *resists just hard enough not to actually stop it from happening*"
And that's really besides the point, even if it had been rape, so what? In the same episode we saw a lot more horrible crap being done than the Queen Bitch getting "raped."
Also I'm glad they replaced Strong Belwas. He's kind of a pointless character.
I wished throwing daggers would work like in the last episode....
I wished throwing daggers would work like in the last episode....Who knew that the domination of Medieval combat by the knight could have been avoided if peasants would have had throwing knives?
I am still wondering if the wine, the cake or the pigeons were poisonous :)
No, if you want to see sex scenes, watch porn. That's what it's for after all... If watching some series, I want to see battles, blood, funny jokes, nice stories, lovely girls and other weird and entertaining stuff. Maybe tits and butts sometimes but more isnt really needed.It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.
It would be nice if they do a spin-off which would consist of 100% porn scenes. Dwarf's whore already has some experience, so no big deal. I'd definitely watch this one.
We know you're a good-looking youngster of Algerian/Moroccan/Tunisian origins but please - stop this madness and ask for a rename.
I have zero maghreb ancestry, not sure where you got that idea. One of my great grandpa's was from around Tver, fled the bolsheviks and ended up fighting for France in WW1, and my mother's side is "white" brasilian so a mix of a bunch of different things. On my father's side it's mostly all french from around the Tours and Limousin region who have been there for generations, appart from that dash of slavic.
I dont even know who Mord is.
Mord is a large man, slow-witted brute, he has small, dark eyes, rotting brown teeth. He has a large belly and thick, stubby-fingered hands.
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He is a Boringlater of George Martin's world:
About Joffrey
About Oberyn (guy in the books, not member of this forum) yeah, I am quite annoyed at the way he is being portrayed, he has been made into a much more sexual dude in the show than I recall in the books. And I think they went way over the top with the last orgies. Ok, we get it, he is bi, he likes to fuck a lot, but there is no need to put a scene in every episode, honestly I did not like this one at all, extremely pointless imo, all they said was already clear from the previous ones.
dear lord behave yourself gnjus
Robert's smithing bastard not even being shipped off.
Last scene was so much better in the books. Strong Belwas, always allowing himself to be cut once :(
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[...] I don't really like gay sex [...]I are disappoint.
Watched ep3 today, seeing that duel was really awful.Awful how? Because they cut Belwas the Useless? Having Daario do it makes more sense, since Daario is a much more important a character later on, so it makes sense for him to be involved in more things earlier on instead of suddenly becoming important.
I always thought it was more than hinted it...it seemed obvious to me from reading the book who poisoned joffrey.
I are disappoint.
I thought that duel was not so great because it was too much of a Terentino style super cool killing without any tension, I mildly smiled at it and thats it.Belwas is great in the books, but it works better for a TV series to cut down on the unnecessary side characters a bit.
I don't get why people either condemn the masses of 'unnecessary' characters in the books or are mad because this or that minor character is merged with more important ones in the series. It is one of the books strengths or more neutral characteristics that you have a couple of people (mostly POV-characters) that have a near 100% dramaturgic live but also the ones like Belwas which only have 1 or 2 moments in their lives that are really interesting for the story and for us to read about. The books are full of normal people, which makes it tedious to read sometimes but also makes the world and story immersive and realistic. And it is clear that they don't have time for that in the TV series.
Don't cut my quotes in half. I never said that!Really? What does Belwas do in the books that's important?
@Xant... No, no. Belwas is as import as him. Plus the "duel" being won by just throwing a dagger is quite stupid. Scene in the book was far better and they could have easily made that as well.
I watched the episode twice and didn't get it.
I might have over-read it somewhere in this thread but was it the wine or the cake now? :?
Soooo.........what about Mord, is he alive and coming back at any point ? And Clive Russel (the archer) ? And does Hodor become important at any point ? And that bearded fire priest-warrior from last season, who has some kind of a forest wild bunch ? And the guy who got split up by Sandor the Dog and then just rose back from the dead ? :?:
You did read the books did you? So you know yourself. Not like I'm into doing a typical Xant discussion. Imo he's an important side character.If I knew myself I wouldn't have asked you, would I? Edumacate me, tell me how he's as important as Daario, who
Soooo.........what about Mord, is he alive and coming back at any point ? And Clive Russel (the archer) ? And does Hodor become important at any point ? And that bearded fire priest-warrior from last season, who has some kind of a forest wild bunch ? And the guy who got split up by Sandor the Dog and then just rose back from the dead ? :?:
Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:(click to show/hide)
Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:
That is freaking retarded. :?
Are you fucking kidding me right now?! :shock:
That is freaking retarded. :?
What about Blackfish ? And that Night Watch Ranger from season one, brother of Ned Stark who went beyond the wall and was never heard from again ? I mean - Blackfish disappeared only recently but that ranger guy.......what was the point of him ? 3 seasons and still out of the picture.......
I watched the episode twice and didn't get it.
Really? What does Belwas do in the books that's important?Book 5 spoiler
Book 5 spoilerI'm not saying he's the most pointless character ever; only that Daario fulfills a much bigger role than him so calling them "just as important" is misleading to say the least. Both of those things, like you say, could be done by other Daenerys sidekicks.(click to show/hide)
I'm not saying he's the most pointless character ever; only that Daario fulfills a much bigger role than him so calling them "just as important" is misleading to say the least. Both of those things, like you say, could be done by other Daenerys sidekicks.
Sure. They could have replaced Daario as well actually...Really, which of the current characters could replace Daario?
Had a good laugh at these
Part1: http://imgur.com/gallery/eXj5S
Part2: http://imgur.com/gallery/VlVLM
Part3: http://imgur.com/gallery/6LEgf
Never before, except for when I was watching season 1 (which I did before starting the books), I had that strong feeling of attending a completely new story.Same. It's great not knowing what's going to happen, for once.
[...]it looks like a cheap setup for a glorious rescue mission for Jon, hope it will not turn out that simple.
I like these changes from the book. The books got infamously boring around this time, so getting some action is far from bad. And let's not forget that GRRM is the co-executive producer of the show, scripts an episode every season, and has told the producers what happens in the books in the end, so it's not like the show is going to be "unfaithful." If someone wants a 1:1 telling of the books, they should read the books.
Stannis? He'll have his attention later on. He'll actually be the only king that acts like a king.
To stir up shit, shit during which he could sneakily skip some steps on the hierarchical ladder. Also, because a widowed Lysa is his easiest route to real power. At least I guess, personally I can't really get over the fact that killing Jon Arryn and setting up the Starks against the Lannisters is a complete hit or miss move, while he is supposed to be some prudent master schemer.
I think that's exactly what's gonna happen.
As neither Jon nor Bran can die at this point of the story. I think they cannot afford to let the Craster's Keep events be more than a short intermezzo to troll overconfident book readers.
I imagine an epic showdown involving Jon and the leader of the mutineers and/or Locke in front of burning Craster's Keep with Bran and the Reeds getting away unrecognized by the Black Brothers
In the books they don't really ever say who killed Jon Arryn (or I missed it if they did), I was always under the impression the Lannisters (Cersei) were responsible for it. So I thought it was kind of cool they explain it more in depth in the TV show.
Also in the books (and TV series) I always really detested Littlefinger as well, but I always had much respect for his ability to play the game of thrones. One of my favorite quotes from the book (that didn't make it into the tv show):
Littlefinger talking to Ned Stark:
"You wear your honor like a suit of armor...You think it keeps you safe, but all it does is weigh you down and make it hard for you to move."
To stir up shit, shit during which he could sneakily skip some steps on the hierarchical ladder. Also, because a widowed Lysa is his easiest route to real power. At least I guess, personally I can't really get over the fact that killing Jon Arryn and setting up the Starks against the Lannisters is a complete hit or miss move, while he is supposed to be some prudent master schemer.
In the books they don't really ever say who killed Jon Arryn (or I missed it if they did), I was always under the impression the Lannisters (Cersei) were responsible for it. So I thought it was kind of cool they explain it more in depth in the TV show.
Reread the last Sansa chapter in Storm of Swords, its one of the best ones in all the books. They took some material from it for this episode, and presumably the rest will be in the season finale.
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That speech by Tyrion in the end was awesome.Signed.
yeah Tyrions speech is pro but at least the next bit should be great (not a spoiler)
That's not a spoiler. He demanded Trial by combat himself so you know its coming. And we all know that a trial by combat never gets denied. ;)
I don't think that he was really serious about his comment.
I like the way the trial was shown in the show, characters fitting well into their role. Jaime was awesome (I'm not even sure if he made this special offer to Tywin in the books), if I think back how much I hated him in season 1...
That's not a spoiler. He demanded Trial by combat himself so you know its coming. And we all know that a trial by combat never gets denied. ;)...and most combat was pretty well done up until now. So hopefully we're in for a treat next week :D
I don't think that he was really serious about his comment.
I like the way the trial was shown in the show, characters fitting well into their role. Jaime was awesome (I'm not even sure if he made this special offer to Tywin in the books), if I think back how much I hated him in season 1...
After watching S4E6 I was surprised that Yara and the 30 "best killers" the Ironborn have to offer, get run off by a shirtless Ramsey doing a Mr. Burns.. (release the hounds) EDIT: This felt out of place in an otherwise outstanding episode
more nonsensical BS caused by deviating from the book.Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...
Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...Probably they went up the stairs, barring the door behind them to get a head start from the hounds. That's what I figured after this horrible insta-cut they made between cellar and plopping out at the shore.
It was just a bad scene. Find your excuses elsewhere.
What got me most in that scene is not that they were scared of the dogs, that's legit, the dogs could very well have been the thing that decided the battle for the other side, but... how does getting up the stairs help them against the dogs? Did they outrun the dogs? Or what? Suddenly the scene just cuts away.
...and most combat was pretty well done up until now. So hopefully we're in for a treat next week :DWhat, all the combat has been terrible.
What, all the combat has been terrible.For some reason, the combat has been at its best in Jon Snow wooden sword scenes. Everywhere else, it's super slow and awkward looking. Especially that Jon Snow vs two-daggers-guy fight was painful to watch.
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I'm not actually complaining about this difference to the books but it is kind of funny
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Also from reddit, now this I agree with:
more nonsensical BS caused by deviating from the book.
Uh... no.
They were clearly going to fight, or were at least undecided, before the dogs came into play. It was emphasized strongly, with the slow opening of the dog cage, etc., etc.
As for your "it's really easy to fight them with a big sword and awareness".... sigh. I would really fucking love to see you fight off multiple massive fighting dogs while their owners, also equipped with steel, come barging at you. Really, I'd pay to see that. And then hear your comments about how easy it was. I think my favorite pet peeve is starting to be nerds who state things about fighting manner-of-factly and claim things "easy" that they have no idea about.
Yes, I can, while I have my own people protecting me plus more dogs every door I open.
Seriously, that episode is not rocket science. It's very obvious to any non-retards what happened. Extremely obvious. It's underlined so everyone (well apparently not) will understand, just like Oberyn bisexuality. Theon's sister still wants Theon back even after he bites her. She even says so. But after the dogs come into play, she and Theon lock eyes, and she decides he's not worth enough to fight to almost certain death. Very clear cut.
In the German version Theon's sister is named Asha. It took me ages to realize who that "yara" is...
In the TV series she is named Yara Greyjoy to avoid confusion with the wildling Osha and is played by Gemma Whelan.That happens when people pronounce those 2 names the same... should actually possible to spot the difference as the two are totally different characters...
plus Osha wasn't mentioned since they parted way south of the wall.
Uh....... no. Deviating from the book does not automagically cause nonsensical BS...
It was just a bad scene. Find your excuses elsewhere.
What got me most in that scene is not that they were scared of the dogs, that's legit, the dogs could very well have been the thing that decided the battle for the other side, but... how does getting up the stairs help them against the dogs? Did they outrun the dogs? Or what? Suddenly the scene just cuts away.
I already pointed out a few plot holes in this thread, like caging wolf, feeding limited resources to wolf.You obviously didn't understand what I said. There being plotholes isn't a counter argument at all. I'm not arguing that they don't often fuck up.
And I've skimmed asofai discussion enough to see just some of the many other plot holes more people have found who are smarter and more obsessed with the books than me. I'm not going to bother convincing you myself, sorry.
There have been alot of great scenes that aren't in the books, but all the plotline changes they have made have been riddled with holes and obsurdity. which is very contrasting to the high fidelity of events in the book.
The First Law is OK, but it's more generic fantasy than ASOIAF. Very clichéd and predictable and it doesn't have the sort of clever dialogue ASOIAF does.
Vlad Taltos series, on the other hand, is great.
The First Law is OK, but it's more generic fantasy than ASOIAF. Very clichéd and predictable and it doesn't have the sort of clever dialogue ASOIAF does.
Haven't really noticed him fucking up the clichés. There's the lithe Girl Warrior Who's Just As Good In Combat If Not Better As Her Male Counterparts and the Uncivilized Dumb Barbarian, etc...
I've only read the the first book of the First Law from Abercrombie, granted. No idea about his other books. Didn't really feel motivated to continue reading afterwards -- I'd give it a 7/10. A good time-killer and well written, but not really a page turner. One of those "will read after I've read all the good stuff" series.
He does, though, in many ways. For example the great magician, the great warrior, and the noble Jezal set off to their great journey to retrieve some powerful magical artifact. Those are the cliches he uses, but then the journey turns out to be quiet different... Of course hard to discuss if you haven't read it.
shame on me for not predicting oberyn being tyrion's champion:D.good episode..
Rorge and Biter got less time than I thought they would...
Aye, and Biter was supposed to bite someone else iirc...Yeah exactly. We stray further from the path, but I like it :)
Wasn't enough for you seeing her get raped by a Genghis Khan insert?I would call any man a gay if he is satisfied with 1 sex scene of Khaleese in 4 years.
I would call any man a gay if he is satisfied with 1 sex scene of Khaleese in 4 years.
Sansa was always the lady of the starks, good at sewing and courteous behaviour and crap like that, so why shouldn't the lady be able to make snow sculptures when it snowed a lot in the north :P
shame on me for not predicting oberyn being tyrion's champion:D.good episode..
Fucking awful episode with shit writing more like.
Everything telegraphed like a mother fucker. Ham fisted shit-ocolypse. It was day of our lives with(out) swords, their was that dagger but pfft.
HBO's Game of Thrones is basically a slightly higher budget soap opera to begin with. They skip or rewrite almost every battle and scene with more than 2 people in a dimly lit room talking.
That leaves GRRM's dialogue as the saving grace of the show, and its at its worst when they change or ignore it. The best scenes from this (and most) episodes were just from the book entirely.
Have you even read the books, Frank? I don't know what you mean by telegraphed.
Personally I think that the problem is each episode has no clarity of vision because we bounce from place to place learning pretty much nothing new.
Tyrion's trail by combat should have been one stand alone episode and it should have been the latest one. That way you can save the reveal of the mount to that latest possible moment and make Oberyn a surprise. Instead every things been mapped out all of the interesting surprises available to us have been wasted on sloppy writing on the part of the script team.
They are too busy trying to do a crazy kind of lock n load meets rashomon with dragons thing instead of delivering tight, super fun episodes. Each one of these things could have been a roller-coaster instead it's like watching one of those stupid monitors on the fancy bikes in the gym that run a really crappy video of where you are riding.
I've only read the first book about 3/4 of it.So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.
What I mean by telegraphed is that the moment you see the mount it's obvious that Obyrn will be Tyrion's champion because his spent every episode telling anyone that will listen to him that "The mountain killed my sisters children and then raped her with their blood still on his hands!" He is in factsorry about the shitty song over the top of this awesome scene.
On top of that, all the moon door ranting gave away Peter tossing her down the whole. The moment you saw her standing next to it, it was just a slap in the face.
Personally I think that the problem is each episode has no clarity of vision because we bounce from place to place learning pretty much nothing new.
Tyrion's trail by combat should have been one stand alone episode and it should have been the latest one. That way you can save the reveal of the mount to that latest possible moment and make Oberyn a surprise. Instead every things been mapped out all of the interesting surprises available to us have been wasted on sloppy writing on the part of the script team.
They are too busy trying to do a crazy kind of lock n load meets rashomon with dragons thing instead of delivering tight, super fun episodes. Each one of these things could have been a roller-coaster instead it's like watching one of those stupid monitors on the fancy bikes in the gym that run a really crappy video of where you are riding.
someone's gonna die, that's my predictionWell that's usually what happens when there is a duel to the death, but hey, kudos on the predictive abilities
So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.
My fucking god that arrogant cunt was daario nahariis ?
What happened to elvish actor QQ
So, everything is super obvious, is it? So you can easily predict what happens with Tyrion's trial by combat, right? Since it's so painfully obvious.
Chill you fucking mugs.
Preview for next episode
http://www.hbouk.com/game-of-thrones/season-4/clip/episode-preview-the-mountain-and-the-viper/
Keep dem predictions coming!
What about Cersei? And Tyrion? And the Kingslayer?
Stupid TV show with its crappy writing, they dare foreshadow things! I prefer my TV shows with deus ex machinas, the critics absolutely love that stuff too. To prove how bad the writing is, I will now predict the events that will take place in the Free Cities in Dance with Dragons:(click to show/hide)
Just predictin', we'll see if it comes true!!!
Anyway, it doesn't matter. But your snide uppity Finnish BS sure fell flat on it's snowy arse didn't it.Nope. Your whiny bitching about one of the best received TV shows in history fell flat on its ass.
Nope. Your whiny bitching about one of the best received TV shows in history fell flat on its ass.
lol, the fuck, what kind of fanboy shit is this, sounds like he insulted one of your precious animes
Don't even have to talk about it with friends, he's clicking on threads talking about the show- and people either spoil shit intentionally or try to be super "subtle" about it and failing. You can't help picking shit up if you read forums discussing GoT.(click to show/hide)
Rome > GoT imo
If you want to read AFFC and ADWD again I strongly recommend to read the chapters in chronological order. I think this is the right way to read because GRRM orinally did not plan to split up the books geograpically but had to because the book was getting to long.I haven't read AFFC & ADWD but if thats what GRRM inspired while writing SOFIAF, I'll take a look at it. I've read JRRT's LOTR it was gr8. Also played KOTOR after my 3 years of LOTRO experience, both fails compared to WOW. Still better than COD, MoH and .... fuck tired of it you get the fucking point.
Here is the proposed order: http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a (http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a)
This is the best thing on youtube.
I haven't read AFFC & ADWD but if thats what GRRM inspired while writing SOFIAF, I'll take a look at it. I've read JRRT's LOTR it was gr8. Also played KOTOR after my 3 years of LOTRO experience, both fails compared to WOW. Still better than COD, MoH and .... fuck tired of it you get the fucking point.(click to show/hide)
no episodes this week? :O
No cuz it's Memorial Day in USA but also i heard they want the last season episode to be held on Fathers Day (book ppl will know why)You are probably convinced that you are being very subtle but you're not.
You are probably convinced that you are being very subtle but you're not.
Great fight! I liked the spear handling, first time a fighter looked like they might have some proficiency with their weapon of choice. This fight was less clumsy than the others. Also, that death was probably one of the most graphic in TV history.
Although the Mountain had a bit too much of "I'll stand here and wait for you to do your thing", I guess.
That was gruesome. Tbh i kept looking at the damn timer the entire time, before the fight. When he started talking about beetles and seeing that there was only like 6 minutes left till the end of the episode I was frankly quite scared that GoT had fucked us and dragged the dialog so long again that the fight would happen in the next weeks episode. But they got it in there and im pleased. Good episode.I'm glad I wasn't the only one.
it was still a bit clumsy, if thats the word for it. (some of the editing cuts didnt quite match up to me). but yes it was alot better than previous. fucking fantastic scene, some stuff is always going to be way more hard hitting visually than in pages!It's because the Mountain was famous for swinging a two-handed sword with one hand.
edit: watching it again and I must say one critque. why the fuck would he be swinging that sword 1 handed, mountain obv played too much darksouls.
GoT might not be perfect, but people who are still whining about it, considering the other shows on TV....
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Or we aren't clawing at the electric box in the living room begging for relief from our awful lives.No, instead you're getting on an online forum trying to get attention by being "special" for relief from your awful lives.
Agiwhore spear spammer died by 2h mastergorillarace str clutcher.
Nothing surprising but I was expecting a longer and more intense fight, not very satisfied though tbh.
All my GoT experience can be summed as "not very satisfied tho tbh" anyway :lol:
Agiwhore spear spammer died by 2h mastergorillarace str clutcher.
Nothing surprising but I was expecting a longer and more intense fight, not very satisfied though tbh.
All my GoT experience can be summed as "not very satisfied tho tbh" anyway :lol:
Another good character dies.
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Another good character dies.two characters* (unless tyrion gets away with it)
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TL;DR: just accept it's not a perfect adaptation of the books and enjoy it for what it is.Haven't read any books from George R.R. Martin, talking about the TV show, that battle should have lasted more imo. Such an epic ending,arrived quicker than I expected.
Why I am so sad ? I knew that was going to happen for like 2 years now, but I watched it like 5 times, and my inner voice screamed like Ellaria everytime.
Worst episode ever. I need a therapy now...
for the very 1st moment i liked that older stark chick.
In the books Oberyn is on top of the mountain, he pulls him in a lovers embrace and shouts the confession in his ear, they wrestle for a bit (while the broken vipers spear is inside the mountain). He pulls him back and, with one hand, holds his head while puncturing his eye. With the other hand he delivers a gruesome skullcracking punch.
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Another thing they've done good in the show. Of course Sansas 'change' it is going on more detailed and gradually in the books but they nailed it anyway.
Also I liked the additional 'non-canon' scene with Sandor and Arya, "Lady Arryn died 3 days ago", was hilarious.
They're going to introduce more new characters from the Oberynlands, fear not.
Loved that scene, it made the whole episode for me. It was perfect. It was almost pythonesq "We're here to see Lady Aryn." "She's dead." "bwahahahahahah"That scene made me even more fond of Arya :D
Really looking forward to the castle black situation btw
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Why did Kelly-C kick out Jorah, Lord of Friendzone? I thought that was pretty sad. He was loyal to her and saved her life. And Kelly-C is no longer ma nigga because of that.
Dont rule out Brorah the Mandal just yet. He is one of my favourite book chars.
But he indeed is a bit boring, which is kinda a life insurance in the GoT universe...
Str whore > Agi whore
Just me or did Sansa's scene seem abit off? If I remember correctly Sansa was alot more manipulative in the books when she told 'em about it.Huh? Sansa couldn't possibly have been more manipulative?(click to show/hide)
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sorry if this has been posted before, too good to pass up!(click to show/hide)
sorry if this has been posted before, too good to pass up!(click to show/hide)
I don't watch the show, but I basically follow the plot thanks to Imgur being 90% GoT posts now.
Regardless, bought the "virtual box set" of the books and will enjoy reading them now.
You guys should really make a new thread to talk about ASoIaF (the books), and let the show watchers enjoy this one relatively spoiler-free
There really are a ton of GOT related images on imgur, just checked. This comic is pretty much 100% how it plays out in the books.The show's not very far from that, tbh.
https://imgur.com/gallery/m6XeF
The show's not very far from that, tbh.Not very far as in depicting the same people and the same result, but skipping very lightly over all the drama and intensity in between it. This comic is a much better adaptation than the scene from the show.
Not very far as in depicting the same people and the same result, but skipping very lightly over all the drama and intensity in between it. This comic is a much better adaptation than the scene from the show.How does the comic have more "drama and intensity"? And it's obviously no surprise that a comic can be more faithful to the book than a TV show.
How does the comic have more "drama and intensity"? And it's obviously no surprise that a comic can be more faithful to the book than a TV show.The dialogue, the spectators getting whacked, The Mountain being portrayed as very hard to kill, responses from spectators. For me, these things add to the drama and intensity. The comic managed to retain most of these things, the show did not. Yes, a comic can be more true to a book than a TV show, but the TV show not being faithful was hardly due to contraints of the medium in this instance.
I never get it why some book readers feel the need to nitpick about every detail in the show that differs from the books.
Robert's rebellion would be even more interesting than the current plot. Lots of legendary characters alive at that time, a lot of battles and events that we only hear about second-hand etc. Around this time in the TV show, IMO GRRM kills off too many of his characters, so he has to introduce lots of new ones that pop out of nowhere.
I haven't read a book yet, but for those who do, info I guess :D
The TV show is going to catch up to the novels soon, given how long it takes the fat fuck to go through his process. Which would completely destroy the tv show, unless they recast a lot of important roles or magically manage to get all the current actors on permanent retainer. They can't just put that shit on hold, but GRRM doesn't do well with deadlines. They may need to do a lot of fluffing of existing storylines and probably create some wholesale just to pad it out.The TV show is going to do its own interpretation of the story if it catches up to the books. They know how the plot is going to unfold.
The TV show is going to catch up to the novels soon, given how long it takes the fat fuck to go through his process. Which would completely destroy the tv show, unless they recast a lot of important roles or magically manage to get all the current actors on permanent retainer. They can't just put that shit on hold, but GRRM doesn't do well with deadlines. They may need to do a lot of fluffing of existing storylines and probably create some wholesale just to pad it out.
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You sound like the biggest showmy old friend ever that's been reading the wiki. No offence.
What the fuck did you say you piece of shit, you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.
Link by the way? It feels odd that he would say so or is it in one of the released chapters in book six?
Finished Feast For Crows.Yea, he certainly isn't the best writer. The books live from the twists and turns and the polarizing characters.
Found it really slow at the beginning and the middle, it only really got a good pace near the end. But it was still boring as fuck. Not sure if I can be bothered reading the next few just because he kills everyone off and I'm not a major fan of his writing style (too many errors :D)
Yea, he certainly isn't the best writer. The books live from the twists and turns and the polarizing characters.
you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.
What the fuck did you say you piece of shit, you're so fat you could dismantle the HRE by sitting on it you slut.
Link by the way? It feels odd that he would say so or is it in one of the released chapters in book six?
I raged so fucking hard when Grenn died.
NO1 IS SAFE, NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE BOOK!
Wow, watching Pyp and Grenn die made me more sad than the deaths of all Starks counted together :cry: (Although Pyp had that typical crpg Xbow moment: Shooting an enemy - hding to reload- getting out of cover again to aim- getting killed by enemy cuntcher)
I thought this is an epic episode, Blackwater Bay's nothing against the Castle Black battle.
Am I wrong or is Alliser Thorne actually not dead but just severly wounded?
EDIT: Without the restrictions of the already published books they would prly have Janos Slynt rape Gilly...
Great episode, I already see people bitching how it's different from the books on other sites, I'm pretty bored of their whining now tbh. But yeah, I enjoyed the episode and I'm really looking forward to next weeks finale.
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Finished Feast For Crows.
Found it really slow at the beginning and the middle, it only really got a good pace near the end. But it was still boring as fuck. Not sure if I can be bothered reading the next few just because he kills everyone off and I'm not a major fan of his writing style (too many errors :D)
Why is this in a spoiler?
No I'm not. She was the hottest one on the show.
Fun fact though. In real life, the actress who plays Ygritte is actually part of a noble family and her parents owns a couple of castles in Scotland. Lol
good episode, finally some action. the only downside is that fat moron is still alive.
Yeah I don't get it either... Why is Sam still alive? Them white walkers should have killed him a couple of times by now... Especially when he was "hiding" his fat ass behind the rock. Wtf white walkers have feelings and don't kill pussies?
they think he is just a poor bear instead of a human
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Haha. I wish the whole show was like this. Its already corny and melodramatic enough on far too low a budget, they should just embrace it and be over the top as fuck with pop music and smug one linersOh yes, having multiple of the most expensive episodes in TV history is such a low budget.
Virtual graveyard, and that's just main people relevant enough to appear in the TV series!
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/television/2014/04/game_of_thrones_deaths_mourn_dead_characters_at_their_virtual_graveyard.html
Wait... where's Jon Snow? :shock:Why should he be there? Jon Snow is not dead.
If he really is dead, GRRM went full retard -- the only real main character left would be a little girl.
wow nice spoilers
Arya > Jon Snow anyway all day.
I feel like 50 min will not be enough for the next episode, they have a lot of things to tell us...or major cliffhanger incoming :?
I feel like 50 min will not be enough for the next episode, they have a lot of things to tell usfinale is 66 minutes long !
If there's so much to show I'm pretty certain they'll leave it for next season.
It wasn't really written by GRRM, Einstein
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The problem is deaths in a song of ice and fire seem to be too random, e.g. Renly, he was barely introduced as a semi big character and few moments later all of a sudden he's dead. It feels silly. At least that's my impression :PSilly, why? I think it's interesting, adds realism. Death doesn't only happen to characters that are seemingly at the end of their Important Story Arc.
Can't stand her, would bang tho 8-)
Ned Stark's death was okay, can not say the same about the rest :P but as you said, it's a matter of taste.
but ned starks death ok? Ha, the whole story is based upon his death and kind of only starts from that point on
I like the characters dying because it really makes me worry about all the other characters I like lol. I couldn't give a toss if Stannis died though really, I'm not really sure why so many people like this guy, he comes across to me like a naive pussy whipped idiot at times and just generally annoys me with his on screen time, not to mention Melisandre, I literally cannot stand that woman.
Great episode. But what the fuck..I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.(click to show/hide)
I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.
I'm glad they did. They should have no "resurrection" shit at all in the series. Super lame.
but warrior skeletons popping out of the ground, and throwing fireballs at them is fine?Show me where in my post I said that's fine?
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Arya Stark best Stark. Had a fat grin on my face when she spoke the words.
Also, Tyrion Lennister best Lennister but that is obvious. Really liked how they did his scenes.
Overall a great ending...
Whys Dany keep hating on the nice green everytime Drogon does bad crap she chains the green one an treats him like crap
IT WAS ALL DROGON the green one didnt do crap im so sick of dany mistreating the green one hes so innocent an friendly its drogon thats the horrible mean one an she babies that one an hurts the green
Arya Stark best Stark. Had a fat grin on my face when she spoke the words.
Also, Tyrion Lennister best Lennister but that is obvious. Really liked how they did his scenes.
Overall a great ending...
Tyrion is one of the most likable characters in the series. The way he is written is already a huge boost to popularity. Plus the actor has done a really great job with the material. Of course as someone who thinks Stannis, the moron who let himself be convinced by a slutty, lying, human sacrificing, evil blood magic sorceress he's some sort of world-saving messiah, neatly combining gullibility, idiocy and narcissism in one neat package, is the best character in the series and the one most deserving of the Iron Throne your perspective is automatically flawed and stupid.
Stannis has to be one of my favourite characters but I can probably guess what Georgy boy does to him.
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Btw book readers and such - did Ned Stark really spare Jorah Mormont and why would he do such a thing ?Ned condemned him to death for selling slaves, but he fled before Ned arrived to execute him
Using show as an example, look how he reacted after the aftermath of Blackwater. He killed Melissandre (tho she apparently revived herself came back) because God of Light didn't help him win the battle.
Stannis has to be one of my favourite characters but I can probably guess what Georgy boy does to him.
Hypothetically, if Stanis ever gets to the Iron Throne, it would be civil war and destruction on a scale larger than anything that's happened in the series so far. His whole Rhllor's chosen delusion? He literally destroys a sept and ritually sacrifices those who refuse to embrace his "new" religion by burning them alive. Or he stands there brooding and constipated while Melisandre does it, same difference. It would be that X100k or something, all throughout the seven kingdoms, as Melisandre leads massive purges. The bigass church thing in King's Landing would be converted to a Rhllor temple as soon as Melisandre fucking stepped foot in there, and it would just spread out from there.Honestly I think the only part of Stannis that's interesting is Davos. In the books you mostly see Stannis through his eyes. Davos especially knows how fucked up Melisandre and her "tools" are, but he's so loyal to Stannis he can't help but try to mitigate her influence on him through his own advice.(click to show/hide)
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The text next to him says "Jon Snow after he got his Bachelor exam."
I lol'd :D
It's interesting how no one (except Mance and his wildlings) is aware of the threat from the North and they don't even bother to listen to anyone, they really think that wildlings are bored and suddenly hitting the wall for no apparent reason other than to kill a few crows and some random villagers around. It would be logical if Stannis was to listen what Mance Rayder has to say about his uniting all tribes, gathering 100 000 men, giants, mammoths, etc and hitting the wall. If you have to kill the man at least listen to his reasons, since you already have him captured. That's what a wise leader would do, while a stupid one would just hack them all where they stand. Guess which kind would Stannis be if wasn't for Davos & Jon Snow ?
Tbh there are some details missing from the show that shouldn't be missing, for example: if the guy who "recruits" (or "collects", to be more accurate) men for the wall gets killed along the way shouldn't someone fucking notice it ? Shouldn't there be a new person in charge with it and shouldn't the commander (at least) of the Night's Watch be asking some questions about that and some other things ? People who have a purpose in this realm keep dying and none even bothers to ask about them, we should get to see those scenes, just so it all makes sense, its not like they would take a whole episode of time........
About the recruiter, the travel times are large, and they are worried about that. He may be somewhere along the path, or have stopped at some halls in hopes of getting more recruits, or tons of other things may have hindered him, news don't travel like in modern times, and the Wall is very isolated.
King Stannis does not give a fucking crap about the wall, he is just using it because of a vision Melissandre had and misinterpreted it, since he had lost at the South, he did the only thing he could that was run away. He is not honorable, he just does not have another option.
Am i the only one who think that Stannis will hire the wildlings with the support of the bank and then, push to the south in order to claim his legit right ?Yeah because money totally means a lot to wildlings
EDIT: i didn't read the books.
Yeah because money totally means a lot to wildlingsThey want to go to the south.
You seem to forget that wildlings do not kneel.
You seem to forget that wildlings do not kneel.No need to kneel when someone offers you the possibility to go kilingl and raiding while going to the south.
They want to go to the south.Yes, well, going to the south =/= money
Stannis can offer that.
Moreover they will be able to fight and kill southerners. (for Stannis of course)
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I think most of u just like Stannis cause his one of the few characters from the start, who isnt dead yet. Simple as that. He's a complete twat. In the last episode that scene was literally the first thing he did right. Giving a crap about the shit going on beond the wall, while others were too busy with thumbs up their asses. Really over the course of this 100 pages nobody ever stated that Stannis was cool. But I think you just jumped the bandwagon. He was a twat and he still is a twat. U just rooting for him cause he's the least horrible choice now.
Looking forward to the casting of the new characters.
I think most of u just like Stannis cause his one of the few characters from the start, who isnt dead yet. Simple as that. He's a complete twat. In the last episode that scene was literally the first thing he did right. Giving a crap about the shit going on beond the wall, while others were too busy with thumbs up their asses. Really over the course of this 100 pages nobody ever stated that Stannis was cool. But I think you just jumped the bandwagon. He was a twat and he still is a twat. U just rooting for him cause he's the least horrible choice now.
I like Stannis as a character in general, but I can't stand that freaking red woman and all this religion thingie... Hope she dies soon, in a brutal way.
If she dies Stannis loses one of his major secret weapons/OP weapons.Hahaha direwolves as secretweapons. One has a woman that spawns vaginademons, other one has dragons that can level an entire city. I dont think overgrown dogs count for anything really.
The way Daenerys got Dragons and Starks had/got direwolves. Stannis got a priestess that could revive dead ones and summon shadows amongst other things.
Hahaha direwolves as secretweapons. One has a woman that spawns vaginademons, other one has dragons that can level an entire city. I dont think overgrown dogs count for anything really.
All the rooting for stannis has always seemed bizarre, book stannis is more likeable but still not relatable. His onion knight is probably the most relatable character to me in the books, but hes too stupidly loyal to root for.What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.
all the main characters jon, arya, tyrion, dany start to piss you off. the only character I still root for is the blackfish!
So with end of this season it ended a book as well right? I was thinking on continuing the story through the books.
What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.
Yes, well, going to the south =/= moneyIn the south, the life style is different, and money will be of course, more important than in the grand North.
I don't recommend. If you wanna read, read from start.
I like Stannis as a character in general, but I can't stand that freaking red woman and all this religion thingie... Hope she dies soon, in a brutal way.Considering that he is killing all his characters, it might happen faster than espected. :)
This. If you do not start with the first book you will be overwhelmed by the sheer amount of characters (over 1200 named characters). Also the show has diverged quite a bit from the books - some characters are even living at the end of book 5 which are already dead in the show.
It seems to be not only a matter of "This character is not supposed to die that early". I just read an essay on a facebook fan page in which the author announced that tthe storyline of a "main" character will go in a completely different direction in season 5 than it is in the books.Arya, I'd guess. Or Jon, if the show has decided they need to keep him around for the viewers.
What has sweet little sociopath Arya done to piss you off, I wonder.
It seems to be not only a matter of "This character is not supposed to die that early". I just read an essay on a facebook fan page in which the author announced that tthe storyline of a "main" character will go in a completely different direction in season 5 than it is in the books.
Arya, I'd guess. Or Jon, if the show has decided they need to keep him around for the viewers.
I'm not sure if I should give the name here. Ironically this would be a spoiler for the book readers while the non-readers would remain unspoiled. Said author did not give a source from where he got this information (and I'm not nerd enough to google around for it), but if it's true, the term "different direction" can be taken literally/geographically.
PM me it and source
Just started reading the books, i am already hooked, there are some different things in the book than what occurs on the TV show. I must admit for any non-book reader, give this a go.
a video of every death in season 4 "might" contain spoilers :lol:
For who lol
well maybe some people are behind :D So i guess its ok to post spoilers when season is over, if they haven't seen it screw them but not ok to post spoilers from the book ^^
Greywurm can spit!
a video of every death in season 4 "might" contain spoilers :lol:
Tyrion is one of the most likable characters in the series. The way he is written is already a huge boost to popularity. Plus the actor has done a really great job with the material. Of course as someone who thinks Stannis, the moron who let himself be convinced by a slutty, lying, human sacrificing, evil blood magic sorceress he's some sort of world-saving messiah, neatly combining gullibility, idiocy and narcissism in one neat package, is the best character in the series and the one most deserving of the Iron Throne your perspective is automatically flawed and stupid.
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Actual spoilers i suppose?
Any idea why they recast Myrcella?
The guy who plays Doran Martell seems a bit skinny to me. Isn't Doran supposed to be obese?
It seems they made a pretty decent job with these new-casts, from first glance, my favorite is Areo Hotah.
Jonathan Pryce - loads of things but maybe... Pirates of the Caribbean?
Daenerys gets eaten by her dragons.
Too late, she already got eaten by Daario......partly.
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But whose tits will we see?
How the hell you didn't die after watching last three episodes in such "quality"?Absolutely nothing wrong with the quality. Not the best, but not bad either.
Why would they be? This is the internet man, they might be considered spoilers in some nursing home or something.
3 and 4 were good episodes. Glad we get to see some Bronn action.
The ambush in episode 4 by the Harpysons was kinda lame. It was what, ~8 fully armored and armed Unsullied (best infantry in the world, trained from birth, etc., etc) against maybe twice that number of peasants wearing robes and wielding a combination of knives and swords. In an enclosed space where the Unsullied could have just closed the gaps and kept them at bay forever with their spears. Instead, they get slaughtered as if they were some fresh recruits... all, of course, except the one Named Character Unsullied whose helmet Dramatically Gets Knocked Off so we can see Who's Fighting. It's like that Ninja trope. Then Selmy comes and looks cringe-worthily slow while the Sons of Harpy politely refuse to attack him from behind for the longest time. All in all, the action scenes have improved, the Selmy thing was clearly a limitation of the actor.
How the hell you didn't die after watching last three episodes in such "quality"?
Jon Snow went up the coolness scale tho.
And I am missing Arya. I wanna see Arya!
I don't remember anything strange happening during the execution in books so I guess she could do it without sparkles and colorful smoke.
But then the whole Brienne's story goes straight to hell and she becomes useless to plot :c
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I wonder how long Sam lasted with Gilly
I was eating börek and now it is all on the floor ty
I wonder how long Sam lasted with GillyWhat do you mean, you wonder? The entire thing was showed on the series.
What do you mean, you wonder? The entire thing was showed on the series.
The one doing the scaring was silent, but it wasn't Sam, it was Ghost. Sam was the one crapping his breeches while trying to appear a tad less cripple.i was cheering for those nightwatch guys that they will beat the shit outta that fatman and rape his chick so much that they both will have to leave the show, but meh...
i was cheering for those nightwatch guys that they will beat the shit outta that fatman and rape his chick so much that they both will have to leave the show, but meh...Easy there, Randyll.
Easy there, Randyll.Apparently he is being cast for season 6 (care possible spoilers):
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Last fight light vs darkness must contain dragons. Also dragon glass is still a thing
No thx cuz then that means Daenerys the dumb bitchy slut will be alive and win the throne.That contradicts... On one hand you don't wanna see Daenerys and her dragons to stay around but on the other hand you want the direct counterpart to Daenerys appear? :shock:
Anyhow was i the only one waiting for a Ice Dragon or something to pop up supporting the White Walker army when that fight happened?
That contradicts... On one hand you don't wanna see Daenerys and her dragons to stay around but on the other hand you want the direct counterpart to Daenerys appear? :shock:
That's weird.
The one doing the scaring was silent, but it wasn't Sam, it was Ghost. Sam was the one crapping his breeches while trying to appear a tad less cripple.
Because she's a dumb, bimbo, blonde, slutty bitch.White Walker army with Nights King are badass. Emilia Clarke is a cool chick but her character fucking sucks. Plus what sucks even more is that because of many of the fans of the show are fans of her they'll have her be the last survivor or one of the last suriviving main characters in the show by the end of the series and cave in for pressure from the fans i'm sure.(click to show/hide)
Feminists will get triggered if she dies, their PTSD will worsen and they will flood the internet with vaginal rage.
You do realize how decapitation works, right? Her hair was cut off. Obviously.
You do realize how decapitation works, right? Her hair was cut off. Obviously.
I'm almost sure Jon Snow and Tyrion are going to die now.
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It's time for TV show spoilers to book readers. Hope Martin won't kill sweet Shireen :c
I'd still bet on Stannis as the best king. But he'll probably die.
Who's the most disgusting character now, between Stannis and Ramsey ?
Is Milesandre an option?
Let me headbutt first into a spear coming my way!
God it was awful. What were they even trying to convey with Jorah flailing about on the floor, dropping his weapon on like four occasions? That he is a useless sack of shit who wins through sheer luck or something? It would be bad enough if only the choreography was terrible, but none of the combat scenarios make any sense, especially this last one. It is all just way too comically retarded for me to take seriously. It is as if they do not even bother to write anything for combat scenarios, the script probably just says "insert 5 minute combat scene here".Maybe they picked up spears from dead unsullied or from some weapon racks in the combat area?
I could name about 20 things which made zero sense on my first viewing. I don't understand that if I can pick out the inconsistent fake crap so easily, how come no one on the entire production team said like "hey, isn't it weird that they are throwing spears now and not before". Honestly this entire scene went way too far on the retard scale, I hope they get a load of shit for it. How can a series do so many things so right, and then do combat scenes so incredibly poorly. The quality difference is ridiculous. A series like Rome is probably on the same budget scale, and combat was never a big thorn in my eye there, let alone continuously. They don't even do anything with cameras to make it look better, they just show the lack of choreography in all its lame-ass glory.
And indeed, all the waterdancer guy shows is that combat could actually be good. Died a fucking lame-ass death too, getting stabbed in the back by the guy he magically forgot about. And the audience was cheering for the kill as well.
How 2 make the last episode even sadderLaughed at this scene, shed tears of joy when dragon appeared at the end.
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Was I the only one thinking "Wow, Tyrion, Jorah and co. are all totally boned right now" after Dany just peaced out on her dragon? I mean, sure, those golden mask dudes were gunning for her, but why would they suddenly stop fighting after the dragon leaves when they outnumbered their enemies 10:1? If they don't kill those guys now they're gonna have to deal with them during their next attempt on Dany's life.
Personally I kind of like the intent behind the fight scene. This was Jorah against the best of the best from all the fighting pits in the surrounding area. No one really said he's the most badass knight around, he just so happens to be the only knight around. He isn't the Mountain or anything, he's isn't necessarily expected to be the best fighter. And the fight showed that... he got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by the water dancer, and only survived cuz that other dude decided to stab the waterdancer before he finished off Jorah, cuz you know, that totally makes sense. :rolleyes: Could have easily let the waterdancer stab Jorah, then stabbed him only an instant later for an insta-win. Maybe it's some sort of honor thing, who knows. But yeah, that said, 90% of that choreography was honestly worse than the sand snakes scene. That fucking roll though. :lol:
Now, this really opens up Stannis. I mean, at this point he's going to question who he really is and what he's fighting for. I think the show will be able to develop him in a much more interesting way. Giving up pretty much the only thing he ever really cared for, and really to secure her own birthright. I don't think he's completely power hungry. He thinks he's doing what's right.
I don't think he's completely power hungry. He thinks he's doing what's right.
plus the actor Iain Glen is just slow and awkward looking in every fight scene I've seen himI thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.
Well, what he did was sick but on the other hand he had to care about thousands of people under his command who would probably starve/freeze do death, he cares about his people, he would be a good king.
I thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.
http://youtu.be/Q8dII-NmjpA?t=1m38s
On an unrelated note, Arya screaming "oysters, clams and cockels!" might be one of the worst sounds I have had to endure, god what an annoying voice.
My jimmies are rustling because tons of people are defending the shitty directing/choreography of the Unsullied with "they're trained for the battlefield, not to be cops!!!!"
I'm not even sure what the logic is with that one, it's not like they're told they can only use their taser on the Sons of the Harpy...
Well, I did recall reading in the books that their strength is discipline and that they are not as physically strong as other men because they lost their balls early. Which makes sense, so in situations where discipline matters less, they are less fearsome. Still, their training, experience and armour should make them more than a match for some city boys with kitchen knives. I don't know why they decide to show Unsullied getting insta-wrecked every time. The Harpies have overwhelming odds of 10 to 1 Unsullied anyway in every fight so far, they could easily show the Unsullied going beast mode for a bit only to be overwhelmed despite their obvious skill. Guess the Series Unsullied weren't trained to use swords, or no one thought of equipping them with swords in a city.Yes, they'd be at a disadvantage if you took someone with Unsullied training + balls and put them 1v1 against them. But just like the Water Dancers own people left and right with no strength, the Unsullied should be killing people effortlessly - they've trained their whole lives. The series Unsullied are mentioned, by the way, as being "masters of the short sword" too. I mean, it'd make sense if 10 Unsullied lost against 10 Mercenaries in some alley fight because they're trained to fight on the battlefield, but that's about as far as that extends.
When I think again in the first fight in the arena, the agile guy had several times a nude neck fairly exposed, the guy couldn't hit him, and instead of cutting his throat off, the guy gently hit the back where the big guy had an armor. That's idiotic. They should hire a proper guy to make the fights, because it's getting retarded.This happens constantly, same with the scene where Barristan died.
The dragon looked really good on my high-def episode when Daenerys was about to touch it, though, so props for that.
The Unsullied do appear more and more like the stormtroopers of the GoT universe. We keep hearing how powerful they are and yet what we see is the complete opposite.
I thought this move was pretty cool though, for the series standards.
http://youtu.be/Q8dII-NmjpA?t=1m38s
On an unrelated note, Arya screaming "oysters, clams and cockels!" might be one of the worst sounds I have had to endure, god what an annoying voice.
So book Stannis was stern, harsh overbearing but a character I still would of supported and who didn't burn his own daughter alive as a means to an end. Seems they made show Stannis a crazy lunatic.Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.
Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.
Yeah thought this one was dumb as well. Just wanted it to be over asap.
Also on top of that, the CGI background when Daenerys was riding the dragon was bloody terrible. It seemed like a case of 'spent all the money on the dragon LOL so lets copy and paste a picture as the background'.
During that flight scene I could practically picture the actress sitting on a big blue blob, fan blowing in her face, with a guy pedaling on a bike in the background to make the scenery slide by.
But hey, apparently all of this takes months to achieve to "professionals" doing their job:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/game-thrones-star-fight-scene-800237
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Remember that the show creators have been told how everything ends by GRRM, who has huge influence on the show too. It's more than likely that Stannis will flip the fuck out in the books, too.Yeah but that all depends on whether he is successful at Winterfell or not. Maybe in the next book GRRM is planning on him losing so badly at Winterfell and that he somehow makes it back to Castle Black where the witch and his daughter are and breaks down and does this crap there, who knows.
Lol isn't it an irony that the early book readers who so famously spoiled the first 4 seasons of the show are now having their books ovelapped by the show... And shall soon have the books spoiled by the just as annoying show viewers I'm sure. Karma I guess :?I highly doubt the show will spoil the books very much considering how far the show has deviated from them, maybe the final outcome of some characters and those contesting the throne but GRRM would have to go back and rewrite the past books and drop the characters the show dropped, add all the stuff the show added to the characters in which didn't happen in the books etc. For example unless that happened I don't even see how show Sansa could ever spoil book Sansa's story except maybe having the circumstances of their deaths be similar, because right now they are in 2 totally different places with totally different narratives atm, etc.
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Seriously. He starts his roll from 10 meters away and would have literally rolled into a spear if the spear guy hadn't decided to rush forward while putting his spear as far away to the right as possible, then throwing it up even before he's hit.
In fact, watching the gif, the spear guy reminds me of a malfunctioning C3PO.
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.
When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.
End of season 4.thx LOL XD ;P
He became a tree.
End of season 4.
He became a tree.
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When did we last see the crippled kid with psychic Powers? I don't remember what happened, someone remind me pls.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. NOT JON! FUCK YOU OLLY.YOU FOOOKING TWAT!They didn't burn his body, fools! Jon Snow for the new Night's King! GO JON SNOW!
So, after that little prick Ramsay (who never fought in a war before) was able to infiltrate the camp of Stannis Baratheon's army (one of the most skilled commanders in Westeros) with "20 good men" (must have been a mix of Chuck Norris, Vlad Pootin and the Avengers), setting half of the tents and all of the siege equipment afire SIMULTANEOUSLYHahaha, that was retarded. And the explanation they gave for it? "Hurrr, they know the terrain, durrrr!" What the fuck? How does """knowing the terrain""" help you infiltrate into a camp on flat ground?
At least they spared him the shame of getting killed by that fucking topless hipster villain Ramsay.
Unfortunately I don't find the link anymore but on FB I stumbled over an interview with Kitz Harrington in which he confirms that he will not return. So IF Jon survives, he will do this warged into a squirrel or something...
Also the interview http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/14/game-thrones-jon-dies-interview
Some people refer to it as the Ides of Marsh, since in the books Bowen Marsh is the leader of the conspiracy that gets him killed. Not sure if he is around much in the show though, maybe one of the stabbers
For some strange reason (unknown to me) my thoughts went to Berenger while watching this episode.....and I fucking rofled hard. 8-)
I hope the white walkers kill everyone and win.Exactly my thoughts after seeing Cercei's scene(I wished that she'd order to kill everyone on the street right after she entered the castle). Fucking brainless religious mob! And I was hoping so much to see John's eyes turn blue so he would rape everyone in the castle with his valyrian dick.
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That's not true. There's one character who has a plot armor that will never be broken.
AND THAT'S THAT DUMB, BITCHY, SLUTTY, PIECE OF SHIT, DRAMA QUEEN DAENERYS! Casuals and her hype train is 2 stronk for them to have her dead. She'll be the last surviving bitch I'm sure.
Atleast she might get mass raped by all those dudes on horses. And when i saw that my reaction:
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Atleast Jamie is alive. I hope he expands his gimmick and becomes the "queen bitch dragon slayer".Still hasn't gained any of his pre-amputation swagger back though, now he is just a plain old good guy. Still, the actor is really well cast, is doing a great job and there are some laughs here and there, so Jamie still interests me in the hopes he goes and does some badass shit soon.
Still hasn't gained any of his pre-amputation swagger back though, now he is just a plain old good guy. Still, the actor is really well cast, is doing a great job and there are some laughs here and there, so Jamie still interests me in the hopes he goes and does some badass shit soon.
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I still wish Drogon just collapsed on top of her and smothered her stupid fucking, entitled, arrogant, cunt face.
Also I don't believe the TV show ever shows Jon dreaming about running around as a wolf (i.e. he's a changling) so I doubt he'll "warg" into Ghost as he dies. It's very possible Jon is just dead.
Good fucking job NOT mentioning any book spoilers...
Books >> TV Show.
They managed to cut out everything that I would have liked to see, and 98% of the alterations of the story line were for the worse.
"And now my watch(ing) is ended."
...and waiting for "Winds of Winter". Hope the show does not rub off on the 2 remaining books too much.
The quality definitely went down as they go past the books. The scene in the throne room in Mireen just felt totally forced. The storyline in Dorn just felt totally pointless, and is resolved in like an hour. It also felt kind of after-school-special-like. Also Sansa and Ramsay's storyline. They just build all these pointless plots up for no real pay off. Its starting to get this cheesey vibe.Darkstar where are you. It's funny they gave his role to the sandsnakes.
Or maybe I'm just jaded these days.
I hope GRRM is not ever consulting to D&D about the story... Why would he consult them about the story?
The quality definitely went down as they go past the books. The scene in the throne room in Mireen just felt totally forced. The storyline in Dorn just felt totally pointless, and is resolved in like an hour. It also felt kind of after-school-special-like. Also Sansa and Ramsay's storyline. They just build all these pointless plots up for no real pay off. Its starting to get this cheesey vibe.
Or maybe I'm just jaded these days.
My only fear is that GRRM will alter the story for the tv show because in the show they ve taken some steps that cant be undone
why u care so much about snow? early on he was a pussy and he slowly developed into a cool character. any other character can go through the same process. jamie lannister was hated early on and slowly he's getting "cooler" as other characters do. sansa stark was a small useless whinny cunt, now she's developing into a cool chick. some good chars will die while others will emerge...What are you talking about? Who hated Jaime Lannister early on? He has always been a great character, he just wasn't a nice guy. It sounds like you have some difficulties distinguishing characters from real life people. Jaime's just become more boring with the loss of his hand, he lost his swagger like Teeth said. Sansa hasn't developed anywhere and there's nothing she can do. And the reason people care about Jon Snow is that he was doing stuff, his story arc was interesting, he didn't just sit and talk about how he totes didn't do any incest.
also tell me book readers why can those religious dickheads walk the queen naked through the city without anything happening to them. i didn't really get it from the show :)
Drogon appears at the fighting pits because of the smell of blood and meat - not to fucking save her like in the show.
Perhaps. But the creators of the show seem to favor Deus Ex Machina quite a bit more heavily, lately.
Predictions: Theon broke her fall and his mangled body is all smashed up and is finally at peace. Sansa reunites with Brienne.
Or. Theon takes Sansa to the Iron Islands, Sansa pregnant by Ramsay.
Perhaps. But the creators of the show seem to favor Deus Ex Machina quite a bit more heavily, lately.
Predictions: Theon broke her fall and his mangled body is all smashed up and is finally at peace. Sansa reunites with Brienne.
Or. Theon takes Sansa to the Iron Islands, Sansa pregnant by Ramsay.
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uhh, you're not posting book spoilers are you? Or did I miss something in the show?Well the last bit about the master with the dragonglass candle is, but I didn't really touch on any circumstances, sry put it in spoilers if you want. The Sam begging to leave though isn't a book spoiler as he didn't it was Jons idea not Sams. Well it shouldn't be one anyhow, the idoit show writers didn't really need to change that part at all.
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Well, they might not be dead after all, I mean they showed how Meryn fucking Trant died but we didnt even see Stannis getting his head chopped off.Or we have seen how Joffrey died with poison but Myrcella only got her nose bleeding( I also would like to point out that Trystane Martell is on board with em)
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So, after that little prick Ramsay (who never fought in a war before) was able to infiltrate the camp of Stannis Baratheon's army (one of the most skilled commanders in Westeros) with "20 good men" (must have been a mix of Chuck Norris, Vlad Pootin and the Avengers), setting half of the tents and all of the siege equipment afire SIMULTANEOUSLY, now Stannis gets ALL his horses stolen by a bunch of sellswords in the night UNOPPOSED.
I thought that dude was the revived mountain? (I have no Idea what is going on, never read the books was late to start watching the series)
The most reasonable explanation is that Ramsay, and his 20 good men, took off on hang gliders from the hills/mountains near Stannis's encampment, then they flew over the camp and dropped fire arrows/bombs on the tents :lol:(click to show/hide)
Legendary Fighter: A man in his thirties or forties who is a great swordsman and a paragon of knighthood. He carries a famous sword. The show is seeking a very impressive swordsman for the role- the best in Europe, for a week of filming fight scenes for a season 6 role. His ethnicity/race isn’t specified, unlike many other roles.
http://watchersonthewall.com/more-casting-info-for-game-of-thrones-season-6/A man can hope
More casting calls...btw wtf....
Arthur fucking Dayne? Brb epic flashbacks...brb dying...brb Tower of Joy
Let me guess Berenger: you already own one of these ?
http://www.sunfrogshirts.com/House-Baratheon.html?47345
Nah, killing Jon was okay for a big finale.
Most likely Mrs. Firepriestess is going to bring him back with some funny consequences and shit...
Nah, killing Jon was okay for a big finale.
Most likely Mrs. Firepriestess is going to bring him back with some funny consequences and shit...
Oh boy...
http://www.inquisitr.com/2198826/game-of-thrones-director-jon-snow-is-definitely-dead-plus-who-will-be-on-the-thrones-comic-con-2015-panel/
Oh boy...
http://www.inquisitr.com/2198826/game-of-thrones-director-jon-snow-is-definitely-dead-plus-who-will-be-on-the-thrones-comic-con-2015-panel/
“I can say emphatically that Jon Snow is definitely dead… I keep hearing that phrase in my head, ‘Ding dong, the witch is dead.’ After what you saw there, I think there’s no more clear picture whether he is dead or not.”Yea, thought about that too.
Yes, he IS dead. And if Melisandre resurrects him next season, then he will no longer be dead and what the director said will still have been accurate.
Yea, thought about that too.
He only states the obvious fact. Would be different if he had said something like "He's dead and he's gonna stay that way.".
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So why did you kill Jon Snow?
GEORGE R.R. MARTIN: Oh, you think he’s dead, do you?
Jon kind of has to be alive in some way or another. Without him there are no characters to continue the story in the north. I mean, who would we start to follow in his place to learn about the white walkers' invasion and such? Would Tormund suddenly become a POV character? Thorne? Not even Sam is at the wall anymore, and I'm sure they aren't going to continue Jon's story using a bunch of second-rate characters like Melisandre and a few named brothers of the watch.
Jon kind of has to be alive in some way or another. Without him there are no characters to continue the story in the north. I mean, who would we start to follow in his place to learn about the white walkers' invasion and such? Would Tormund suddenly become a POV character? Thorne? Not even Sam is at the wall anymore, and I'm sure they aren't going to continue Jon's story using a bunch of second-rate characters like Melisandre and a few named brothers of the watch.Well they haven't killed off Rickon Stark yet maybe he ages a bit and comes to save the north. :P
Dolorous Edd pov. If there's one character portrayal in the show that has disapointed me it is this one.Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane.
Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane's member*
I was disappointed with Tormunds Giant member*
Lol i did see those being advertised. Tbh they don't look that bad.
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Same goes for Tormund Giantsbane.What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.
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What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.The books painted him as good natured, jovial and boisterous. The show just makes him look mad, angry and scary.
What do you mean? I haven't read the books, but Tormund seems to me like a great character in the show.
lol @ the Woody Harrelson/True Detective scene :P :DBest GoT video ever srs.
Watch it
holy shit
that episode...
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Only thing holding me back from blurting spoilers is a perma ban. <3 <3 <3
Wondering if there's any drawbacks to being resurrected like thatOne of the worst things at the moment is that neither the book nor the show have really explained how all that shit works. Being able to raise the dead is one of the most powerful things ever, and when for all appearances it looks like there's no drawback and you can even raise the same guy back 5+ times... shit becomes pretty weird. And it lessens the effect of death. I was hoping Melisandre would die from the effort, or she'd permanently revert back to the old woman creature, or... you know... something. There needs to be some obvious drawback to it, either to the recipient or the caster, otherwise it raises some questions like... why isn't she doing it more?
Technically this thread is no "book" spoilers. And since the show is past the books you aren't spoiling. :wink:
One of the worst things at the moment is that neither the book nor the show have really explained how all that shit works. Being able to raise the dead is one of the most powerful things ever, and when for all appearances it looks like there's no drawback and you can even raise the same guy back 5+ times... shit becomes pretty weird. And it lessens the effect of death. I was hoping Melisandre would die from the effort, or she'd permanently revert back to the old woman creature, or... you know... something. There needs to be some obvious drawback to it, either to the recipient or the caster, otherwise it raises some questions like... why isn't she doing it more?
Later, Beric reminisces on the times he has been killed with Thoros and Arya. Arya briefly asks if Thoros can revive a man with no head, clearly referring to her father, but Beric merely compliments Eddard's honourable nature and tells her of the side effect of his resurrection: with each revival, he loses some of his memories and is less himself, a life he would not wish on Eddard.
Wondering if there's any drawbacks to being resurrected like that
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No need for spoiler tags on this discussion ffs. Anyone here knows their shit by now.
Anyway the only way I can see it going is if they bring a new character who 'knows' stuff. Either that or maybe, I suspect, Varys will hold the answer to Jon's lineage. Either than or Bran will get a sneak peak.
My theory now is that once Danny comes back to the 7 kingdoms with her Dragon's Jon is going to become one of the Dragon rides and they will sweep the walkers away with that and some nifty magic stuff from Bran.
But we will see.
I just wanna see Daenerys die though. Sacrifice Jon, Arya and Stannis + Young Griff just to see that bitch die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAAp_luluo0
EEEEEEPIC RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY!
Who is/are those people at 0:26?
Episode 3 preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y685gVGRQ98
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.
Would have been silly and pointless to kill off his father denying going for that attack otherwise.
Of all the options they could have chose for Jon Snow's resurrection, that was probably the most cheesy, awkward and badly written one. She apparently had no idea about how to bring him back, had "seen a dude do it once" but didn't really have a clue. She walks in, chops his hair up, pours water over his head, says some shit over and over again, fantastic it worked. Would have rather he just stayed fucking dead.Yeah, makes it even cheaper. "I don't have the gift of resurrecting the dead... well, let me try- woops, it worked, that's nice."
Wtf just noticed at 0:27 Arthur Dayne doesn't seem to have Dawn sword.
Yeah, but even, better... he has two regular swords! Cuz dual wielding is so kewl. xD xD
I don't get why that Karstark guy let Ramsey get away with murdering Roose. He hated the Starks for Robb killing his father and even said as much in the scene. I would have thought he would have had a bit more loyalty to Roose seeing as it was he who killed Robb. Also Ramsey's legitimacy came through Roose who he shanked, so this Karstark must be stupid if he thinks the same won't happen to him if he crosses Ramsey now that he has all the Bolton power.
Probably why he didn't say anything and acted loyal at that point. What was to stop Ramsey from just stabbing him too?Him stabbing Ramsey first, he had the maester there to witness for him.
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should've just spooked him alive with nice tits to granny tits transform
Yeah, makes it even cheaper. "I don't have the gift of resurrecting the dead... well, let me try- woops, it worked, that's nice."
I mean, I'm sure GRRM has some sensible rules for all that shit, but they really need to point them out, because right now it looks like raising people from the dead is no big deal, you can do it half by accident if you've seen a guy do it once.
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Yeah, it just seemed really out of place, it would have been acceptable for me if she had any confidence or knowledge in at least being able to try bring him back. Even if she wasn't 100% sure it would work, I am pretty sure we all expected it would most likely be her who saves Jon, there was no need to downplay it, we all knew there was no way Jon was going to stay dead either.
I can get over it, but it's sad I have another notch on my bad writing bedpost, most of my previous ones were from Daenerys's story line last season which I thought was a load of dog shit, I used to like her but now she just annoys me and I'd probably be glad to see her die.
Don't you touch my boy Ramsay!
The way I interpreted it, not sure if it makes it any better, is that while she said the correct words (in a different language from Thoros ofc), she didn't have the intent of heart to bring John back- it was Ghost's intent merged with her words that did so.Where did you get that Ghost thing...? As far as I remember, there was nothing indicating Ghost had anything to do with it.
So you guys are still watching this.. this thing?dragons came in like season 1 fam lmao
Let me guess what happened since second season - a bunch of people died, still no plot, story is going nowhere. No dragon action, but they still make it look like dragons will come.
dragons came in like season 1 fam lmao
Really?.. There were a couple of eggs in the first and they were cat sized in a single 10 second long scene in the second.yeah when they got big drogon took off and the other 2 were locked in a basement. Then last season Drogon came and rescued danearis in the fighting pit.
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Anyways, if there is finally some dragon carnage in the new season, I will have a look :)
Where did you get that Ghost thing...? As far as I remember, there was nothing indicating Ghost had anything to do with it.He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...
He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...it was focusing on the dog so they could show the dog reacting to him waking up fam
...just going by the cinematography, I can understand where the idea is coming from.
And since it's no ordinary wolf...
He was laying next to Jon, eyes closed, weirdly calm, slowly breathing and he got focused by the camera for some odd seconds...
...just going by the cinematography, I can understand where the idea is coming from.
And since it's no ordinary wolf...
How about Rickons wolf?
Rickon is useless, so as his wolf kekekHis wolf seemed pretty scary and badass down in that crypt, all wild.
You don't know much about rickon or shaggy dog, except rickon is meant to be a toddler/ very young kid, so until his personality/mind ages and evolves then his wolf won't either. The very name shaggy dog comes across as a childish name, but I wouldn't be surprised I he rerun in this season
He seemed to still have his wounds. Probably undead rather than back to life, more like Coldhands than Dondarion. Maybe it has something to do with the Wall itself?
You don't know much about rickon or shaggy dog, except rickon is meant to be a toddler/ very young kid, so until his personality/mind ages and evolves then his wolf won't either. The very name shaggy dog comes across as a childish name, but I wouldn't be surprised I he rerun in this seasonWell now we know what happened to him in the hbo fanfiction series. Am I the only one who couldn't wait for most of this episode to end? I thought good shows ended to soon, leaving the viewer wanting more not wishing it would end.
Am I the only one who couldn't wait for most of this episode to end?
I can't believe they killed Shaggydog like that. That has got to be a random black wolf head. Didn't seem a huge direwolf head for me. Considering that the Umber denied to bend the knee to Ramsay, I think he'll betray him later. Yeah I'm in denial mode.Ghost seems smaller too.
I did the same when Oberyn died, I got tons of flame cus of that, too soon maybe?Who would he be explaining it to? Pretty sure he doesn't give a fuck.
Also how the hell does Jon plan to explain when someone asks why you abandoned your watch?
Ghost seems smaller too.
Also I don't remember the Umbers being mad at the Starks in the books so I don't understand why they would kill Rickons wolf and give him to Ramsey, rather than giving him refuge at their castle.
I know he was the runt but he seemed bigger in previous seasons maybe I am just misremembering.
Ghost was the runt of the litter.
Also pretty much guaranteed Jon's lineage now. Lyanna Stark in the tower whilst giving birth (screaming) and Ned runs up and find them.
Ghost was the runt of the litter.
Also who was the other kingsguard and why weren't all three there? It's either Whent or Hightower.
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Seems my theory about rickon was wrong :lol:I posted what you said as a reply to you earlier heh but I changed it as it doesn't really change your theory because Sansa's wolf is dead and she is still alive. Or it could just be that Sansa is fucked too. :P
Or as said previously it's a random wolf yada yada or Rickon is basically fucked
holy shit, MUUUUUUUUUUUH 720NOSCOEP DUAL WIELD. no dawn :( so lame ):
Seems my theory about rickon was wrong :lol:
Or as said previously it's a random wolf yada yada or Rickon is basically fucked
holy shit, MUUUUUUUUUUUH 720NOSCOEP DUAL WIELD. no dawn :( so lame ):
Technically he had Dawn, it just wasn't an impressive greatsword cuz leet hollywood dual wielding skillz took precedence over accuracy.was any of his swords white and shiny? NO. FUG OF HOLLERWEED :@
Targaryens get effected by fire, though. Viserys got burned by gold and even Daenerys stated he wasn't a real Dragon because he got burned downIt is just special to Daenerys as far I observe, she enters the hot water without not so much feeling the heat, walks through fire and shit like that.(click to show/hide)
was any of his swords white and shiny? NO. FUG OF HOLLERWEED :@
Right, but he still had Hollywood's interpretation of Dawn, however inaccurate it was. :(yeah, didn't he stick a 2 h sword in the dirt at first but fight with different ones?
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yeah, didn't he stick a 2 h sword in the dirt at first but fight with different ones?
Nah, he stuck one of his two longswords (presumably Hollywood's piss-poor rendition of Dawn) in the ground, then drew his other sword and that one out of the ground simultaneously.ahh ok, ty for fyi.
Probably gonna skip through most of the episode if it's a Daenerys fest. Hate that bitch. Saddens me she will survive throughout the whole show/books.
Thinking about it, Game of Thrones is basically the Game of Women Are Bad Ass right now.
Women control Dorne with their epic cunning and elite Sand Snakes who are totes convincing as warriors.
Women control King's Landing, with three different ones being the only strong characters left there (Grandmother, Margaery, Cersei- and Margaery was shown being Super Strong and trying to comfort her brother who was crying)
Arya is training to become Super Elite Magical Ninja Assassin
Brienne somehow beats the Hound and in general skates from any consequences, is the only actual knight in the series
Daenerys is Mary Sue herself with things falling into place automagically despite having the charisma of an 8 year old overspoiled brat on a temper tantrum and none of the plot for her making any sense yet she keeps getting stuff for free
Sansa Stark now apparently controls the wildling army via Jon Snow who lost his backbone just so Sansa could dictate to him what to do.
I'm sure I'm missing some, but the show is basically about girlpower. All the "wait, what the fuck just happened" stuff makes so much more sense when you know that GRRM is a self-professed feminist.
Hound aint dead nigga.
being a feminist means you believe men and women should have equal rights.lmao
I expected her to be rescued by her freaking dragon any time.
Disappointment was real.
granny baratheon
competent political players:
dwarf
little finger
varys
high sparrow
maaaaaybe snow if he didnt turn into a little bitch after coming back
mayhaps margaery
also what the fuck is up with all those gaylords: there is a fucking decade long winter approaching, including an unstoppable army of undead. and they whine about mimimi my castle, my dick, my daughter, me got raped, but my dog got killed
I would add the Queen of Thorns to the competent.
No one actually believes in them other than those who have seen them aka wildlings and the watch. Otherwise it's just passed off as hogwash so of course they don't give a shit.
I honestly thought the dragons would come save her. Maybe they have to skimp on CGI budget and have other plans for them.As did I. When Drogon came to save her from them in the books I was getting the impression she was starting to learn how to control him a bit.
No, that was clear to me that they wouldn't pull that trick again. The whole story arc was about her inspiring more people to join her.so the books can pull that trick more than once but not the show?!
I thought she would somehow convince the Dothraki that she's boss by diplomatic means. Instead she kills the bosses again, and that somehow worked out... oh well
GURLPOOOOWER! #FIGHTTHEPATRIARCHY!
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also insert Daenerys + Brienne with plot armor of doom.
The relevance is that she's doing exactly what you're calling bullshit on, and getting fucked over in-universe for it. Every major character has some degree of hero-armour, even in this. They die when it suits the plot.Except that she's not? No idea what you're talking about, and you've clearly managed to completely misunderstand the complaint (not surprised). Female characters getting murdered is neither here nor there.
Not to mention the red wedding where Rob's wife gets stabbed in the womb. That caused a shit storm.
So many people on the internet (lots of women) claiming they'd stop watching the show because it was an affront to women and GoT had gone too far. Yet no mention of Rob getting a dire wolf for a head.
I thought the issue was with all the dominant women showing the men who's boss.The argument was never that not a single woman in the show has ever died.
Thinking this was the issue I presented an example of a woman attempting to act like this in the most recent episode and getting stabbed in the neck like it was nothing.
Clearly I misunderstood, it wasn't at all an issue with 'girlpower'.
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Didn't see any major reveals in this episode that book readers would freak out about.
Also, apparently I'm not the only one who noticed that Sansa has apparently started her (his) testosterone injections.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/257510770
Can also see episode 6 listed.5. I don't see episode 6 listed by anyone with a skull.
O wait what episode are we on now?
Not sure if i should link it here but Episode 5 has already leaked so (720p resolution it seems).
I'd rather watch it now today instead of waiting like 10 hours or so for it.
EDIT: Book readers only might freak out about 1 major reveal in the episode LOL
Didn't see any major reveals in this episode that book readers would freak out about.
Also, apparently I'm not the only one who noticed that Sansa has apparently started her (his) testosterone injections.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/257510770
I guess getting buthol raped by Ramsay has made her into a real man. Too bad she's still annoying af. Is there anyone that actually likes this Sansa character?Yes, getting raped and beaten and abused for years makes people very assertive, it is known. Unless, of course, it's a male character like Theon.
Yes, the spoilerguy seems to have been legit. Accurately predicted two things that happened in this episode.
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I guess getting buthol raped by Ramsay has made her into a real man. Is there anyone that actually likes this Sansa character?
Xant does, as something similar happened to him in the army. Afterwards he was never the same on this forum.It is true, I gained unimaginable powers through butthol rape.
I'm kinda on the fence with time travel being introduced into GoT. On one hand if handled well it could be really cool and add some more mysticism to the show, but historically Hollywood always fucks up when it comes to time travel. Not to mention that it also introduces the same issue that lotr had, which was "why did they walk all the way across Middle Earth when they could have just flown around on eagles, saving countless lives?" Now whenever shit happens in GoT people will be asking "why couldn't Bran just go back and time and prevent that?"
LOTR: A giant eagle flying near Mordor and carrying the ring of power when Sauron has Fellbeasts (wyvrens) is a terrible idea.
GoT: Because Bran is traumatized. Also the tree seems to be the conductor for astral projecting into the past and its safe to say that no one is going back there for a while.
I'm kinda on the fence with time travel being introduced into GoT. On one hand if handled well it could be really cool and add some more mysticism to the show, but historically Hollywood always fucks up when it comes to time travel. Not to mention that it also introduces the same issue that lotr had, which was "why did they walk all the way across Middle Earth when they could have just flown around on eagles, saving countless lives?" Now whenever shit happens in GoT people will be asking "why couldn't Bran just go back and time and prevent that?"Because influencing the past has gone so well for the people involved so far when Bran has done it?
LOTR: The eagles beat the shit out of the fellbeasts in aerial combat... not to mention that there is an entire army of eagles vs. at most the 9 fellbeasts that Sauron has, and the fact that gandalf can be riding said eagles and blasting the fellbeasts outa the sky. And of course the fellbeasts aren't constantly flying around on patrol, the eagles could just swoop in real quick with the element of surprise on their side.
No sense really arguing about each of our opinions at this point anyways, seeing how they just introduced this power without giving us any definitive restrictions yet. No doubt they'll provide a very simplistic restriction that most watchers will believe and be like "ah, so that's why he can't just time travel all willy-nilly."
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It is true, I gained unimaginable powers through butthol rape.
what happened to Pod? why wasnt he following breanne around like always?He was. Scene at the end where they leave the Castle, he was there in the background on a horse.
He was. Scene at the end where they leave the Castle, he was there in the background on a horse.
The only plot that matters to me anymore. Fuck The White Walkers wiping out Westeros. Fuck the slaves. Fuck the trailer trash Iron Born. I need to see these two fug!I predict some visitors can't see pics , please register or login(click to show/hide)
I cried more when the rightful King of Westeros, Stannis died thanks to the butch lady.What did he ever do to make you cry when he died? Murder his brother?
Only to be killed by a butch Mary Sue.
TIL: every little fuck up on the timeline is Brans fault. Never fiddle with time, kids.
Apparently the actor of Hodor let on that it isn't the last we've seen of him.
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Noone makes a tribute to the dire wolf. I was chilled to the bone, by that scene and the sounds just after echoing in the tunnels. You guys are heartless idiots. :cry:
They had been throwing them like grenades just fine before, but she decided to suicide instead out of nowhere.
Noone makes a tribute to the dire wolf. I was chilled to the bone, by that scene and the sounds just after echoing in the tunnels. You guys are heartless idiots. :cry:Put some scenes and pics of summer and his siblings to this and there's your tribute. :P
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They had been throwing them like grenades just fine before, but she decided to suicide instead out of nowhere.
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I could not appreciate the drama of the ending scene with Bran because nothing makes sense, as always. I mean, the three eyed crow literally said that the White Walkers knew their location and were going to come for them. So what do they do? They go on a fucking vision quest and sleep through the arrival of the White Walkers and start running when the undead are on top of them. Strong planning skills right there. Then the whole "hold the door" moment is super dramatic and all, but instead of the undead being right behind them, Hodor bought them about a 50 meters headstart. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, I don't see how that is going to matter in any sensible way.
I could not appreciate the drama of the ending scene with Bran because nothing makes sense, as always. I mean, the three eyed crow literally said that the White Walkers knew their location and were going to come for them. So what do they do? They go on a fucking vision quest and sleep through the arrival of the White Walkers and start running when the undead are on top of them. Strong planning skills right there. Then the whole "hold the door" moment is super dramatic and all, but instead of the undead being right behind them, Hodor bought them about a 50 meters headstart. Whoop-dee-fucking-doo, I don't see how that is going to matter in any sensible way.Yes, Game of Thrones is very disappointing these days, let's be honest.
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Yes, Game of Thrones is very disappointing these days, let's be honest.good thing there's only 2 seasons left.
It started out as a show that defied clichés, which was a big part of its appeal. Now it's nothing but a cliché-fest, from story to the cinematography. It's still good, probably the best thing on TV for me, but it's A) not as good as it was, and B) pissing all the potential it had down the drain.
only 2 seasons left.
A show that wants to shock it's audience by defying clichés needs to sometimes also adhere to the clichés. Otherwise you know that every time a main character can die, they will die and the occurrence will no longer shock you.Yes, because clearly killing off main characters is the only way to defy the clichés, and main characters living is the only cliché in existence.
Well that was simple, you should take up writingBut not as simple as you, Heskey Time.
But not as simple as you, Heskey Time.
He's even fatter in real life.
He's even fatter in real life.Well, he had to get big enough to be able to hold that door.
It's part of the joke, friend.
Was it, buddy?
why is he so gayishly offended.
That episode was pretty bad and several things didn't make sense but oh well
At this point I'm more looking forward to the books.
I can never see Gilly as anyone other than Cassie. Makes the whole thing even more lols.
Bit of a meh episode all round really. What I really don't get is the high sparrows agenda. He's playing politics with the best of them but with no foreseeable end goal. He's playing the game too much to just be a fanatic. He must have some ultimate motive.
In the books GRRM confirmed that Benjen is not Coldhands though:Yep that was on a page for his editor or something. Well the books are the books and the show is the show.(click to show/hide)
I'm so dissappointed the Faith Militant wasn't slaughtered :evil:
Found the Loras/Renly butt lover.
SHAME! SHAME! SHAME! Repent your sins you sinning homosexual!
Nah, I'm just a fan of killing.
God, I hope Daenerys dies. Spoiled brat.
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I honestly still think she's being built up as an eventual "bad guy". A bunch of dragons and an army of bloodthirsty rapists with the goal to conquer land and tear down castles doesn't sound very noble, with the addition of even more bloodthirsty rapists when the Ironborn conveniently show up with a massive fleet just as she's convinced the Dothraki to follow her across the sea. The only army she's had so far is a bunch of robotic drugged euneuchs, and I don't care how fucking kawai they all think she is the Dothraki and Ironborn ain't gonna stop the rapin' and the lootin' they know and love. I mean, an army composed of viking and mongol derivatives, I can't think of anything that says predatory mass destruction any better, except maybe fucking dragons, which oh wait she also has, with the robotic drugged euneuch baby/dog murderers as an afterthought. I can't see anyone in the Seven Kingdoms welcoming that shit.
I honestly still think she's being built up as an eventual "bad guy". A bunch of dragons and an army of bloodthirsty rapists with the goal to conquer land and tear down castles doesn't sound very noble, with the addition of even more bloodthirsty rapists when the Ironborn conveniently show up with a massive fleet just as she's convinced the Dothraki to follow her across the sea. The only army she's had so far is a bunch of robotic drugged euneuchs, and I don't care how fucking kawai they all think she is the Dothraki and Ironborn ain't gonna stop the rapin' and the lootin' they know and love. I mean, an army composed of viking and mongol derivatives, I can't think of anything that says predatory mass destruction any better, except maybe fucking dragons, which oh wait she also has, with the robotic drugged euneuch baby/dog murderers as an afterthought. I can't see anyone in the Seven Kingdoms welcoming that shit.You'd think, but she is denerys sturmbjorn. They'll all be on their best behavior after she gives them a rousing speech.
rousing speech.
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I can't wait for whatever prequel/sequel series they will make in the ASOIAF universe. Because hopefully it means no Daenerys/Brienne/Ramsay in it.
And the usual shouty speech. Isn't GoT without Daenary's yelling something at people every few episodes.
I can't see her being made into a bad guy. More likely she'll rock up on her dragon, yell a bit and then King's Landing will be hers.
I can see things going a bit cheesy from here on out. Daenary's retakes the 7 Kingdoms, Jon retakes Winterfell and becomes Warden of the North. Aka things have now gone full circle since Robert's Rebellion with a Targaryen back on the throne and a 'Stark' in Winterfelll. Just in time for them to then unite and with some Bran magic defeat the white walkers.
They will probably throw in a couple of deaths just to keep it gritty. Maybe Cersei and a couple of others. But between Arya, Jon, Daenarys, Sansa ect I think they will have enough plot armour that they can't kill them off.
Heck maybe Littelfinger will finally get what's coming to him.
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will u give me the gift that khal drogo promised me
on the fifth of may
seven o clock
b4 the mountens
next to that grassy patch that we loved
when i was bit hungry
WOOHOO!!!!!!!! YEEEEEEEEEESSS!! YAAAY!!! I CANT FUCKING CONTROL MY HORSE IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?That horn turning out to be the Horn of Winter would be pretty cleverly written, remember when Game of Thrones was cleverly written? That was a long time ago.(click to show/hide)
That horn turning out to be the Horn of Winter would be pretty cleverly written, remember when Game of Thrones was cleverly written? That was a long time ago.
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?
Bran has a mark on his arm that rendered the protective magic of the cave useless, perhaps he crosses the wall and that causes the spells to stop working there too.
Btw have you ever considered that maybe it was the Nights King who built the wall? So it probably wouldn't be a problem for him to break the magic of it.
I thought Bran the Builder built it.
So is some unscrupulous individual going to use the horn of winter to bring the wall down for easy white walker and wight access or are the white walkers going to become ice climbers?
Imagine if they ended the show with a cliffhanger and rest of it would be shown in an upcoming GOT movie. Damn..that GOT movie would probably break all sales records.
What did I spoil? Mance had one in the books that wasn't the real one Tarly and Dolorous Edd found this one in the show, which also might not be the real one. But from what I hear we might find out more about the horn in a future episode through Brans visions.
Well... I didn't even know that such a horn existed, until your post.well nothing's happened with it in the books or the show so nothing really spoiled. Sry
Well... I didn't even know that such a horn existed, until your post.
I also couldn't find any indication that anyone- even old Nan- ever mentions the Horn of Winter in the TV show, even only in passing. The horn Sam found in the cache while ranging could well be a dragon horn of old, too (the cache also contains dragonglass, for one, so that seems just as reasonable an idea).I forget alot of the show stuff, how does the show explain the presence of the giants?
oh boy has the show gone to shit or what
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Taking real advantage of that new 10 million dollar an episode budget.Nice chainmail you got there.
Loving the Tyrell army of a hundred men aswell. Don't even get me started on the Kingsmoot and Euron.
Game of Feminism continues its glorious march. A ten year old girl is apparently the de facto leader of men. I thought she'd be someone's puppet, because that's the only plausible explanation, but no, if you're a girl in Game of Thrones you can do anything.
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Does that make you happy or am I missing the sarcasm? Because it pisses me off that they killed him off so quick I like that actor. And they used those corrupted punks bwob. Well at least I hope the hound brutally murders them all.(click to show/hide)
Does that make you happy or am I missing the sarcasm? Because it pisses me off that they killed him off so quick I like that actor. And they used those corrupted punks bwob. Well at least I hope the hound brutally murders them all.
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Proper quality:thanks man, you need some crpg gold?(click to show/hide)
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thanks man, you need some crpg gold?
TBQH i think its just a Stark trait that they take a billion stab wounds to kill. Robb Stark got blasted by like 5 crossbow bolts and was still gucci until they cut his throat, it took like 9 guys to stab Jon Snow to death, Ned Stark took like 3 arrows to the chest and kept fighting orks until Aragorn showed up, etc etc
TBQH i think its just a Stark trait that they take a billion stab wounds to kill. Robb Stark got blasted by like 5 crossbow bolts and was still gucci until they cut his throat, it took like 9 guys to stab Jon Snow to death, Ned Stark took like 3 arrows to the chest and kept fighting orks until Aragorn showed up, etc etcwhat happened to Boramir Starks horn?
For all we know the 10 year old leader was straight up asking her advisers what she should do, and then just relayed their message to Sansa/Jon. I guess if you really wanted to look at it with your anti-feminazi glasses on, then it could come across as her just asking them about facts and making the decisions on her own, but I chose to not give a shit either way as it was a fairly entertaining scene in the otherwise-weak Sansa story.Uhm, no, she was very clearly not "straight up asking her advisers what she should do and then relaying their message". It was obvious, and even directly stated, that she was only consulting the Maester about the history/current standing of Houses she didn't know of. It could not be more obvious that she was making the big decisions on her own. She consulted no one when making them. She asked the man on her right about how many troops can be gathered (AFTER the decision had been made) and the Maester on her left about the houses (and waved him to be quiet when he tried to influence her decision).
As unbelievable as certain plot points in their arcs may be, Arya, the queen of thorns, and Yara (and the new 10 year old) are definitely the most likable girls/women on the show, and I don't mind rooting for them. Sansa and Dany, however.... ugh. Pure cringe all over their storylines. For all we know the 10 year old leader was straight up asking her advisers what she should do, and then just relayed their message to Sansa/Jon. I guess if you really wanted to look at it with your anti-feminazi glasses on, then it could come across as her just asking them about facts and making the decisions on her own, but I chose to not give a shit either way as it was a fairly entertaining scene in the otherwise-weak Sansa story.
Yeah those are nice to watch. I didn't much care for the Ayra and the faceless men story arc so I'm glad that's taking a different path. But Xant is right. Even if the girl was cool, she was making decisions without the advisors after ser davos stepped in.
I don't care though because that was an interesting scene.
Yeah, all I want to know is who Arya happens to bump into that saves her life... can't think of any other characters that'd be over there, unless Jorah traveled real fast and found an elixir that can both cure his disease and multiple stab wounds at once. Or maybe it'll just be another red priest(ess) who shows up to save the day.well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.
well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.
That'd make sense. Inb4 jorah/dany tho and then it becomes super girl power. I will say for the red priestesses.. they are fucking everywhere.
I do want to see how things go with tyrion and bronn when the whole thing finally works its way over to westeros. Will bronn swing over to tyrion betraying jaime/the lannisters or will he keep his back turned to tyrion?
let me kno what u think1. A woman who just got a Dothraki army (land ironborn pretty much) rejecting the ironborn? Wouldn't make sense at all. Her army is already mostly comprised of "savages who rape people on the reg" in the Dothraki... Besides, when she returns the truce will most likely be broken and they may arrive in the middle of the battle, helping her win it.
well in the books she had made friends there, I bet the lady she refused to poison in that actors clan saves her.
2. Possibly, but my money is on Littlefinger (maybe with the Manderlys) riding in to save the day because Sansa sent him a secret message and he wants some of that.
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I didn't much care for the Ayra and the faceless men story arc so I'm glad that's taking a different path.
Seen some crazy Arya theories running around. Some are that Jaqen H'ghar was pretending to be Arya in the last episode as a test of the waif's true intentions. Based on things like Arya not having needle and having all that gold. I would be surprised as it would make little sense but who knows with GoT these days.
I liked the Jaime scenes in the last episode, I think he is one of the few interesting characters left and despite him becoming more boring, I still have hope that he'll be a selfish badass again. Finally out of the whiny father/lover mode and back to war. Also, Bronn is always fun. The return of Sandor is even better, though I do not really see him doing much more than dying in a violent, but unimportant blaze of glory. Make Game of Thrones great again, bring back the morally questionable badasses.(click to show/hide)
Saw that theory as well... my question is that while we know he can obviously change faces, can he also shrink himself? I'm don't recall if we've ever seen a faceless man shrink or grow in size before, since as their name implies, they change faces, not bodies.
Don't they have to have her face also? Like how they take dead people's faces off to wear them.
The real reason GoT got worse is because they got rid of those morally questionable badasses. The plot/cliches might have been as bad in the beginning, I don't really remember, but it wasn't as noticeable when there were tons of great characters. Whom they've steadily been castrating (literally and figuratively) or killing off each season until season 4-5 had almost none left, and their screentime was reduced to almost nothing.
Well when her mentor drank the poison and she ran over to him and grabbed at his face, it kept changing and eventually she saw her own right before she went blind... so, yes?So if his face was Aryas then it would seem he can change size too as he is bigger than her, unless it was a tall her he changed too ;p
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Faceless Men. Elite of the elite. Killers of kings. Slayers of emperors. To hire them is to lose a fortune.Well, considering your previous points that womyn are invincible in this storyline, doesn't this contradict everything you've been saying? However yeah, it's fucking retarded that she got stabbed three times in the chest and magically not only survives, but continues walking after falling off of a fucking bridge into water.
They're so good, that a fully trained Faceless (Wo)Man is unable to kill a young girl in three strikes with the element of surprise on her side.
Faceless Men. Elite of the elite. Killers of kings. Slayers of emperors. To hire them is to lose a fortune.
They're so good, that a fully trained Faceless (Wo)Man is unable to kill a young girl in three strikes with the element of surprise on her side.
Well, considering your previous points that womyn are invincible in this storyline, doesn't this contradict everything you've been saying? However yeah, it's fucking retarded that she got stabbed three times in the chest and magically not only survives, but continues walking after falling off of a fucking bridge into water.Considering I never said women are invincible in this storyline, and that it was a woman who survived the stabbing, and also a woman who did the stabbing... ???? I literally have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
You forget that the young girl is a partly trained Faceless Man, she survived because of her masterful awareness and skill... ...oh wait.Yes, how hard would it have been to have Arya actively participate in her fate with elite Faceless Man skills, instead of staring dumbly as she gets stabbed repeatedly, then doing the elite Push Attack, and surviving despite all of it.
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oh shieeeet you know who it is
If you visit r/freefolk the guy who leaked the legit stuff from before just confirmed more leaks. Pretty much most of the major last events for this season.(click to show/hide)
Well only 3 episodes left. Ep8 and 9 are probably gonna be the big shit and ep10 is just basically ep00 for next season like always. I think I can wait a week to see those 2 main episodes before reading the spoilers kek.
I bet that r/freefolk guy is the dude who plays Lem Lemoncloak. Like I said he looks like a guy who would do that for lulz :D.
Lol maybe. The priest who got hung last week also leaked that Hound would return IIRC.
Many leakers so far.
That was the best episode in a while. Only bad thing was Daenerys' Mary Sue arrival. Well, the Arya-Waif part was pretty cringeworthy too (although the obvious lack of athleticism did give me a chuckle, it was like a parody with the music and the "suspense" they were going for... all the Scary Movie chase scene cliches they had were unintentionally funny too), but Bronn and the Hound saved a lot.
Everyone also probably guessed the second they saw that candle in the room that Arya was going to get rid of it and they'd have a lol much blind fight. Don't think GoT's earliest seasons would have had such a cliched and predictable scene.
And then Arya learned, out of nowhere, the time honored "camera angle teleport trick."
And we can assume Arya partially knows how to use a sword, while Waif only had a butter knife.Maybe if Waif hadn't been so busy walking dramatically through the streets for the cameras Arya wouldn't have had a sword
And maybe an unpopular opinion but; Cersei is also interesting this season.I am curious about what she will do next, since she lost her everything, I expect her to have some clever moves that she will use against the Sparrows.
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Blackfish's death was so anticlimactic... "He's dead"....
One of the more interesting characters in the show...
Edmure's acting was pretty good this episode, I hope he will play a bigger role in the episodes to come, but I doubt it.
That terminator chase with those awkward "stop to death stare" moments was so silly. And fuck me sideways, but I just can't stop to cringe at every Emilia Clarke airtime.
And then in comes Daeneris to complete the cringe dose for the week.
How did people expect to see the Arya vs Waif fight if it happened in complete darkness? :rolleyes:Are you making fun of the TV show for being dumb? I sure hope so. Because there are literally dozens of examples of letting the audience see what's happening while the people fighting are in "complete darkness."
Are you making fun of the TV show for being dumb? I sure hope so. Because there are literally dozens of examples of letting the audience see what's happening while the people fighting are in "complete darkness."No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.
No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.
Idk why Waif should have died on camera. The scene played out quite nicely as it was.
Though then again we had this in season 4. Dat sword through the neck and out the mouth. Probably my favorite death scene:
Cersei is not clever. She's a dumb bitch who can't see the game more than one step ahead. If Jaime doesn't get to Kings Landing quick, she'll be done.
No I'm not. And I don't know shit about tv producing, so you may be right. But I think it must be hard to portray darkness when viewers can see the actual fighting going.Here is just one, popular example:
so, no one is talking about this great scene with Tyrion and the 2 side characters telling jokes ?
best scene, they should do an episode where every single character from the story tell a joke.
And they missed the blackfish fartjoke before his death ! tsss
Here is just one, popular example:Well, that doesn't look like darkness.
https://youtu.be/rDuetklFtDQ?t=148
The Blackfish's death goes along with the theme that these old, proud men have no place in the world, and will die arguably meaningless deaths.
Only real man left is Randyll Tarly.
what about Dondarrion, The Hound, Jorah, Davos?
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Well, that doesn't look like darkness.are you literally deaf
Jorah is pussy whipped. But by real man I'm talking about someone like Stannis or Roose or Tywin or Ned who takes control and leads his family and acts like a man.
Only flawed heroes survive. GRRM making a point to kill off any character reminiscent of a classic hero.More like only women survive. What's flawed about Brienne? She's literally the most unrealistically knightlike character in the entire series. She gets a pass though because she's a woman, Mary Sueing her way through dozens of situations she has no right to survive.
Yeah she doesn't think ahead. She thinks she's clever but she consistently fucks up and it burns her multiple times. Look at the faith militant. she does that to get back at the Tyrells then get tangled up in it and has to do the walk of atonement. She didn't even think it could affect her for some reason. She is just that dumb.
But at least King's Landing should be interesting pretty soon.
It was an episode of several highs and lows, almost no middle ground, and that's bollocks
That terminator chase with those awkward "stop to death stare" moments was so silly. And fuck me sideways, but I just can't stop to cringe at every Emilia Clarke airtime.
I wonder if they started letting women do the writing for the last couple of episodes. South park did that once and it turned out the worsed episode ever, this shit is unbareable.
So if Cersei DOES set Kings Landing ablaze and Tommen dies, who becomes king?
I like Brienne, she is one of the very few female characters I actually do like now. Her story line is fairly simple, but I feel the actor and the character portrayed fit so well, her simple story line is enjoyable considering we already have had and still have so many wild story lines going on, with some of them being just annoying rather than enjoyable. Sure, she has survived a lot of situations, but there aren't exactly any I have felt she needed to die at, it has felt believable enough that I don't think to myself "She should defintiely be dead now". I also don't want to walk out of the room when she appears onscreen unlike the ridiculous plot armour Queen whose story line went stale and boring multiple seasons ago even though they tried to make it seem "epic".
So if Cersei DOES set Kings Landing ablaze and Tommen dies, who becomes king?
yo pretty much. She is just this not hot chick who would love to love but aint hot enough so she devotes herself to whatever causes, cause, you need a cause, eh?
Personally out of all women in the show, only ones I seriously dislike (in a please GTFO from the show way) is Daenerys, Yara and Brienne. Got no problems with any others because they don't go as over the top cringy alpha fail macho as they do and try to emasculate everyone around them as these ones.
I think Brienne deserves some credit due to her size at least. She's not that cringe worthy either, I mean she's butt ugly so she's gotta be chivalrous or else no one would think about going to bed with her.Yes, except no. What does her size have to do with anything? She's obviously not athletic, and not even considerably taller than the average man. The show does try to play it off as omg wow she so big that is where all her powurs come from, but it doesn't make any sense.
I mean, that woman would cut half the people on this forum down before they could lick the cheeto dust off their fingers!
Yes, except no. What does her size have to do with anything? She's obviously not athletic, and not even considerably taller than the average man. The show does try to play it off as omg wow she so big that is where all her powurs come from, but it doesn't make any sense.
Haha, you're right. I haven't read the books, but is she BIG in the books?yes
Haha, you're right. I haven't read the books, but is she BIG in the books?She's 10 cm taller in the books, and much heavier.
No Winds Of Winter this year I'd bet (lazy fuck) and next season in a year.
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Only if you tell us who is the most Russian GOT character in the show (Besides Stannis)Roose Bolton = Vladimir Putin. It is known.
So when will uncle Vlad get poisoned by his enemies?Afaik he only has daughters. Smart man.
Afaik he only has daughters. Smart man.
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As per the dragons, I agree with Xant, but they possibly will explain it with something like Drogon being the alpha and the others following its lead. Since Dany controls Drogon then the others follow her too.But they don't explain how she controls Drogon. They show her teaching Drogon to breathe fire on command. That's like teaching a dog to "sit." Then they show Drogon going absolutely out of control and doing nothing Daenerys wants him to do. Then they show Daenerys having perfect mind control over Drogon, having him go precisely where she wants him to, do precisely what she wants him, etc., etc. It's like if you had a puppy Doberman, you teach it how to sit, then it goes fucking crazy, and next time you see it is when it's an adult and suddenly it's reciting Shakespeare and doing your dishes for you just because you make eye contact.
But they don't explain how she controls Drogon. They show her teaching Drogon to breathe fire on command. That's like teaching a dog to "sit." Then they show Drogon going absolutely out of control and doing nothing Daenerys wants him to do. Then they show Daenerys having perfect mind control over Drogon, having him go precisely where she wants him to, do precisely what she wants him, etc., etc. It's like if you had a puppy Doberman, you teach it how to sit, then it goes fucking crazy, and next time you see it is when it's an adult and suddenly it's reciting Shakespeare and doing your dishes for you just because you make eye contact.
And the thing is, they made a really big deal out of the dragons being out of control, and not controllable. There were a whole bunch of scenes about how it'd be possible/impossible to train them.
And then they just go "fuck it, Daenerys is magical."
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What bothered me was how quickly everyone died and how nobody in the initial fight seemed to have arsed to bring a shield to the battle. Also the massive mountains of corpses seemed unreasonable and Jon's plot armour was showing a bit too much. Also it looked like there was far less troops in the battle than 2000 vs 6000.
I actually liked the scene at the end where the spears were closing in and Jon's troops got really clamped together.
What the fuck was up with those 20ft body piles?
- that fucking huge pile of corpses lel, I guess someone mid battle decided to tidy up the battlefield?
Definitely an entertaining episode but damn if Sansa isn't becoming an ice queen. Smirking as her brother and his army is being destroyed. I assume she did this in order to ensure Jon wouldn't have much to work with when she makes sure she has winterfell not him. I'd like to see a Jon vs Sansa war but I don't think it'll last long nor do I see Jon trying to do it. North is united and any more casualties would be wasteful. He'd want to put whatever's left towards the Night King and consolidating power.
Tyrion doing his business as usual. I do want to know what the hell they were going to do if the dragons were hit as they were flying stationary in the air while surrounded by floating catapult ships.
No mention of King's Landing but that'll be all episode 10 I assume. Wunderbar.
Anyone else think it looks like Sansa is going to become another plot armour queen and everything is going to be ruled by Women now? like seriously wtf, she sat there smirking because she knows it was her that saved the day, every fucking major turn seems to be favouring the women, without a doubt she will use that to gain power. It seemed fucking retarded for Jon Snow to mindlessly charge like that, he does have a rage to his character but over the seasons I felt he had become quite smart, even after Sansa warning him and saying Rickon is pretty much dead anyway, yet he just stupidly charges into that army bringing his army with him, it's like they have to suddenly make the men dumber and the women smarter. Plus when they all just stand there and let themselves get surrounded by that lame shield-pikewall, the battle was pretty cool up until then, then it became a cringe fest, with that wall of corpses.
I love GoT but the TV show feels like it is suddenly being written by feminists who are edging a little on the femi-chocolate chip cookie side.
Doubt we will see Tower of Joy as Bran doesn't have a tree at the moment.
Well guess Bran might pull a tree out his arse then!
Anyone else think it looks like Sansa is going to become another plot armour queen and everything is going to be ruled by Women now? like seriously wtf, she sat there smirking because she knows it was her that saved the day, every fucking major turn seems to be favouring the women, without a doubt she will use that to gain power. It seemed fucking retarded for Jon Snow to mindlessly charge like that, he does have a rage to his character but over the seasons I felt he had become quite smart, even after Sansa warning him and saying Rickon is pretty much dead anyway, yet he just stupidly charges into that army bringing his army with him, it's like they have to suddenly make the men dumber and the women smarter. Plus when they all just stand there and let themselves get surrounded by that lame shield-pikewall, the battle was pretty cool up until then, then it became a cringe fest, with that wall of corpses.
I love GoT but the TV show feels like it is suddenly being written by feminists who are edging a little on the femi-chocolate chip cookie side.
Also if Wun Wun could tank all those arrows after breaking the door down at Winterfell why didn't he just charge through the wall and get the rest to follow, shieldwall broken. GG.
Also if Wun Wun could tank all those arrows after breaking the door down at Winterfell why didn't he just charge through the wall and get the rest to follow, shieldwall broken. GG.
I'm wondering more why Ramsay didn't just gather his remaining men and armed them all with bows/crossbows and position them in front of the gate to rain down fire on every fucker who came through there.
I'm wondering more why Ramsay didn't just gather his remaining men and armed them all with bows/crossbows and position them in front of the gate to rain down fire on every fucker who came through there.
Yup another of my gripes that giant could have bloody well just run through them all and there's bugger all they could have done. That pike/shield wall was so think it would have been simple.
But no Wun Wun is the gentle giant.
Can anyone remind me why Littlefinger decided to take the Vale north to wreck the Boltons again, I can't recall anything that makes sense? I am not sure how the North situation will be resolved now, since Littlefinger is a greedy bitch and he is the only one left with an army up there. Also, Dany went from being a hobo lost somewhere in the boonies to being all geared up for a Westeros invasion in like three episodes, pretty stupid.
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Clearly Rikkon has never played Warband.....or doesn't have a working brain.
Maybe put a little zig or a zag in that straight line dash down the field.
Can anyone remind me why Littlefinger decided to take the Vale north to wreck the Boltons again, I can't recall anything that makes sense?
Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less. Asha and Theon showing up at Mereen almost immediately when it's shown to be such a long, grueling journey in the books is another one (although they did the same thing with Tyrion tbf).Well, no one in Game of Thrones uses scouts. Armies regularly appear out of fucking nowhere, just in time to be dramatic and allow for some smug smirking.
Well, no one in Game of Thrones uses scouts. Armies regularly appear out of fucking nowhere, just in time to be dramatic and allow for some smug smirking.
Thinking about smug smirking triggered me, and now I'm again reminded of how retarded a character Sansa is right now, and the fact that the creators of the show are actually proud of it.
Yup compared to some of the other fight scenes this one was actually ok.
Does make me somewhat miss Rob though. Although they didn't ever show any of his battles at least he was tactically sound and knew what he was doing to the extent that he won a string of great victories.
Turning Jon's brain into smush for this was just irritating. Especially as he has proven himself a competent commander previously.
The tactical genius of Robb Stark, The Plot Shield Of Daenerys Stormwhore, The sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, The Honor Of Ned Stark & the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne and you'd get the most awesome character ever.
Robb was okey, he did some nice moves when he outmanuevred Jamie, but surely naming him a "Tactical genius" for the man who drove his house into ruin by beheading Rickard Karstark and marrying that common pleb whore (in the show) is a bit exaggerated.That was strategical failures not tactical.
Err durr tactical genius of Robb Stark?? Holy shit, laughable.
More like, The tactical genius of Stannis Baratheon, the wit of Stannis baratheon, the sense of duty of Stannis Baratheon, the honor of Ned Stark and the fighting skills of Arthur Dayne.
Robb was okey, he did some nice moves when he outmanuevred Jamie, but surely naming him a "Tactical genius" for the man who drove his house into ruin by beheading Rickard Karstark and marrying that common pleb whore (in the show) is a bit exaggerated.
Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.
Rob in terms of military tactician was great, particularly in the books where he gains almost mythical status amoungst the Lannistars as he's so feared. It was his political and emotional side that let him down outside of combat.
He actually reminds me a lot of Edward IV in that sense. A great military mastermind but fucking terrible at politics. Heck Edward IV even married a divorced minor noble woman for love and pissed off all his closest allies after alienating them. Ok parallels with the War of the Roses really are uncanny.
That was strategical failures not tactical.
Robb was a shit leader of his house due to his political decisions and everything not concerning the battles. But at the battlefield he was a legend. Stannis was the king of tactical geniuses....in the books. Show Stannis? Not so much.
Without those horrendous decisions, Robb was a good commander, I defnitely wouldn't say he's better then Stannis though.Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.
Holy shit, you're really dumbing down Stannis, aren't you? He was an experienced, superb battle commander.
If that's your view on Stannis tactical achievements, read this:
https://warsandpoliticsoficeandfire.wordpress.com/2013/09/17/a-complete-analysis-of-stannis-baratheon-as-a-military-commander/
True, mixed the both for a second there. Without those horrendous decisions, Robb was a good commander, I defnitely wouldn't say he's better then Stannis though.
Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.
Depends on what kind of command skills you're looking for. Stannis had the experience, was a good strategist, but didn't exactly inspire his troops. Robb had charisma and the passion of youth and fought from the front line with his direwolf. As generals, Stannis was a defender, Robb an attacker.
So he had a couple of victories outside of the TV show. One of which was sitting pretty in a castle during a siege. Only saved because of the Onion knight I'd like to add.
I'd still put Rob above Stannis.
Stannis a tactical genious? That can't be serious. As far as I'm aware his military ventures to date include being shut up in a castle, having his fleet destroyed, mowing down some wildlings, and letting his army freeze to death.
I mean he is writing a story, not playing DnD.
He's not going to bring 2 characters into a field and roll dice based on their 'commander' score to see who wins.
As a story-writer ofc he knows who's going to win based on what he wants to happen storywise. But if he isn't a good enough writer to make the circumstances convincing, that's where it breaks down. I only read the first couple of books so don't know how good he is at writing battles, but in the show battles are usually a clusterfuck.
Also Kit apparently punched him in the face for realz while filming the most satisfying scene ever.sauce?
sauce?
Ned Stark was here !So we finally find out who the headless horseman is, its Ned Stark! The geezer in the fence is a deserter from the wall.
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Well it's always a possibility, if and when HBO loses the rights to GoT. I wouldn't deem it impossible to have a GoT "reboot" in a decade or so. I can't really imagine anything else happening sooner though. If anything they'd make some spin-off series and keep milking the franchise as long as they can, most likely keeping the rights to themselves for the foreseeable future.
Curious question, do any of you think there is a possibility for another company to make a GoT series? I know it may sound stupid but just wondering, cause I'd really like to see what could of been without DnD. The idea won't be original, but I'm sure a lot would still watch it.They should do an animated version, with the graphic stylings of "Tales of the Black Freighter"
They should do an animated version, with the graphic stylings of "Tales of the Black Freighter"
Sorta like LotR (1978)? Doing an animated version of Dunk and Egg would be cool.
Holy shit, Sansa's actor is as bad as Sansa.
Around at 3:54 mark he mentions it.
Holy shit, Sansa's actor is as bad as Sansa.
"Sansa's been Ramsay's prisoner for god knows how long, and yet they won't listen to her..." all said in like this petulant little girl voice. Jesus Christ. And I bet she's echoing the creators' opinions there, "haha, their come uppance for not listening to her!!! XD"
So many things wrong with that.
How does being Ramsay's prisoner help in the fucking least when it comes to military tactics? Uhm... yeah, it doesn't. And Jon actually ASKS HER what her advice is.... and she has none. Wow. So they wouldn't listen to her.... when she had nothing to say?
Good god, so obnoxious.
Yeah and everyone just chooses to forget the fact that she held the information about Veil army. Or come up with excuses for it. "Omg she's teh best military strategist coming up with secret army lol so Salsa." Some of the posts you read in youtube or see in videos will surely give me cancer. I'm pretty certain about it.I looked at the imdb forums right after the episode came out, and it was full of cancer. "if salsa had told jon about the army then they might have planned around it!!!! and then rumsay would never have left winterfell!!!" as if ~3000 people dying in your army is better than a siege. There's just no sensible reason for Sansa to not tell Jon about the army, it was an act of pure evil, but people come up with the weirdest reasons.
I looked at the imdb forums right after the episode came out, and it was full of cancer. "if salsa had told jon about the army then they might have planned around it!!!! and then rumsay would never have left winterfell!!!" as if ~3000 people dying in your army is better than a siege. There's just no sensible reason for Sansa to not tell Jon about the army, it was an act of pure evil, but people come up with the weirdest reasons.
They could have still hidden the Veil riders until the beginning of the battle when Ramsay took his army outside. Revealed it to him and negotiated for the release of Rickon etc when Ramsay is left with no other choice.Of course they could have. That's why Salsa shit makes no sense. And exactly why she caused the death of her little brother.
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When I told before the season begun that since they completely left following the books it will become horrible, everyone looked up to me like a shitter. Now burn in your own flames knaves.It's not any worse than last season. If anything, this season's been better than the last 2-4.
When I told before the season begun that since they completely left following the books it will become horrible, everyone looked up to me like a shitter. Now burn in your own flames knaves.
true dat.
im just wondering. what will be left to watch when they killed off the last intriguing character?
Sansa is now the worst. She's like Cersei, except not played by Lena Headey.
And Torben, they could go in very interesting directions- like the Blackfyre Rebellion, Dance of Dragons, Dunk & Egg, etc
They'd probably just do Robert's Rebellion, because tv produced the shit that is Gotham. Apparently branding is all that matters to viewers.
Damn besides the Dany bullshit. Really hyped for Episode 10. Shame we don't have a proper GoT/ASOIAF MMORPG to play while waiting for the next season next year or even the Winds Of Winter book (should come out early 2017 iirc)
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Or AGOT for CK2
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cersei is now part of the religion of love and peace
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The director of episode 10 and 9 is really good. About the only saving grace of this episode.
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.
Another nonsensical factor, the distance between the Vale, then the Neck then Winterfell is kind of enormous, the idea that an entire fucking army could just amble all that way completely undetected is immersion breaking. Really most of the distances now seem completely arbitrary and nonsensical. Characters, armies, people and things take as long as the plot demands to get from one place to another, no more and no less.
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.
Yeah I actually picked up the game of thrones mod on Warband this weekend. Kind of gives you a good over view of travelling times and can picture the map quite nicely.
The distances are insane. Unless events in this do span months and they are just really shit at representing timelines.
Edit: Correction. Not the twins. Moat Cailin. Which is Bolton controlled at this stage I believe. In which case Ramsey should have heard long before that Littlefinger was riding up with an army.
They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.well to be fair varys and his little birds killed both kevan lannister and pycelle
Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.
Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.
Why did that Maester use six little girls to do the stabbing for him?
Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.
Why was the little boy staring at the churchplace and then took off running right to the wildfire? Why did religionguy follow him there? How the fuck did the little boy manage to stab him that badly? Better assassin than the Faceless Men, apparently.Yeah, this irked me to no end. Nothing in this entire sequence made any sense. I can never quite understand how no one in such a production manages to ask "but... why?".
They replaced the Varys/Kevan murder scene with Qyburn/Pycelle, which kinda robbed it of it's oomph. Pycelle actually backhanded one of the little murderous munchkins, kind of expected him to go down without any fight, just crying and pleading for his life.
Interesting parralels between Lancel and Jaime. Lancel was always supposed to be a pale imitation of Jaime, and even in his last act he managed to fail at something Jaime accomplished, saving King's Landing from a cache of dragonfire planted by an insane ruler.
Seeing Melisandre getting called out for being a murderous cunt was fucking satisfying, Davos should've executed the old vampire, but Jon has to be a Stark.
My biggest question is which of the dragons will Jon Targaryen ride?
During the scene when Gendry was hauled off, Melisandre predicted she and Arya would meet again, so there's a good chance of them crossing paths early next season. Can't remember if she was Arya's list though. Also you have the Hound & BwB in the same general area as Arya now or heading north so that'll be interesting.
As far as sides in the upcoming conflict, it's probably not too lopsided for team Targaryen. Euron's fleet might run into her while she's heading over so that could reduce her numbers quite a bit. He also might attack the Tyrells on the way to find Dany so that could tie down their armies. Maybe Euron will even attempt to ally (and marry?) Cersei when he finds out Danerys is teamed up with Yara/Theon.
The Lannisters still have the support of the Frey's even though their leader is dead. Depending on how much of the Frey family is dead, it might even be possible that Edmure Tully would side with the Lannisters in exchange for control of all the Riverlands as a puppet. The Riverlands rebelled against the Targareons so there might still be enough bad blood for them to prefer the Lannisters over Danerys. Also, the Lannisters might still have support of some Baratheon forces since Tommen was considered a Baratheon and they rebelled against the Targareons as well. So it might turn out to be:
Westerlands, Riverlands, Stormlands, Iron Islands vs Dorne, Reach and Essos armies
Well Season 7 should be Danaerys taking WesterosWhich was something to look forward to, once upon a time...
Fuck Game of Thrones.
Bud Spencer died today :cry:
Fuck Game of Thrones.
Bud Spencer died today :cry:
Arya is suddenly teleporting across the mapSuddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?
Wait, wait.. what? How is Varys with Daenerys on the ship? I'd speculate that he actually has legit teleport magic at his disposal if it weren't for every other character teleporting as well.Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?
Haha, all the complaints about the travel per time "paradoxes", oh well.
People assuming that every episode covers the same amount of time for every plot line is really funny.
Suddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?
Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?
Let's face it, it's fucked up, it's not part of the 'lore' or the 'show' or whatever, they just want to hurry the show up so they can move on to another project. So they decide to do a lot of stupid shit like Varys dropping in for one 'cool' scene where he can say Fire and Blood, then they want him for another scene so they don't actually give a fuck about how he got there. Stop defending it, it's stupid and could be done much better.No it's not, what's wrong with you?
Wtf was that music in the beginning all about. For one moment i thought i'd be watching the pianist.IMO the music was fucking great and it added a lot to the scene.
Cersei's hair hasn't grown an inch all season
Wtf was that music in the beginning all about. For one moment i thought i'd be watching the pianist.
Frey pie in the book is Lord Manderly serving it to all the lords during the siege of Winterfell. They recycled it to give Arya a bit more to do I guess.Which he took his inspiration from " The Rat Cook" http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Rat_Cook
No it's not, what's wrong with you?
Varys was shown in Dorne to let us know he's bargaining an alliance with Dorne and the Tyrells, he could've said absolutely nothing and the scene would still be valuable plot-wise. And do you really need a scene of Varys travelling all the way to Dorne and then another one showing him sailing back to actually know he travelled there?
What's wrong with me? Is it too much to ask for a show with a budget of a 100 million dollars to put some effort into the writing? The scene in Dorne was necessary, even if it was poorly written in my opinion. But they wanted a cool scene on a ship where Daenerys looked over the ocean with all her companions behind her. It was so necessary they just put him there. They didn't give a single fuck. Logically, why the fuck would he even return?
He actually didn't ever leave the guy in Dorne was just a random bald brothel keeperwho had a fire and blood fetish :P
Haha, all the complaints about the travel per time "paradoxes", oh well.Because what you don't understand is that the episode takes place within a certain timeframe, and the timeframes aren't consistent with the teleports, not to mention the fact how badly written it is to have characters teleport vast distances constantly and consistently with no exposition.
People assuming that every episode covers the same amount of time for every plot line is really funny.
Suddenly teleporting? How do you know how much time it took her to sail there? Like, really?
Hey, let me explain that to you, no problem. Varys sailed to Dorne and then sailed back to Dany. Then they all together sailed to Westeros. See now?
the episode takes place within a certain timeframe
Please, do try and provide a source.???????? wat
Because what you don't understand is that the episode takes place within a certain timeframeIndeed, I don't even understand why would you think so, when it clearly doesn't. The timeframe may be different for each storyline.
What's wrong with me? Is it too much to ask for a show with a budget of a 100 million dollars to put some effort into the writing? The scene in Dorne was necessary, even if it was poorly written in my opinion. But they wanted a cool scene on a ship where Daenerys looked over the ocean with all her companions behind her. It was so necessary they just put him there. They didn't give a single fuck. Logically, why the fuck would he even return?What's wrong with you is that you assume you know the full story and that they show the full story, while actually you don't and they don't. You assume that the only thing Varys travelled to Dorne for was to speak with Ellaria (which is probably true though) and you assume that the only thing Varys came back for is to sail with Daenerys, which is probably NOT true, because he could have other business to do in Meeryn before the sailaway. On top of that you assume that all this happened in the same time frame with other story lines shown in this episode, which is clearly not the case.
Come on Xant, you can't trick us, we know you're not that dumb. Jona's question was legit and I'm sure you understood what he meant.Legit to you, maybe.
You contradict yourself.There's no contradiction there really, making assumptions isn't wrong, making too much is. Perhaps my wording of that wasn't entirely correct.
I do make my conclusions on what they show, they showed Varys travelling to Dorne to make alliances with the the Reach and Dorne. He then goes to Mereen to go back. That's what they are showing. You on the other hand is making assumptions...
But I mean, it makes perfect sense. To get what I was saying takes some understanding of context, and to understand the complaint and problems people have with the teleporting also takes some understanding of context. It's no surprise, then, that the two people incapable of understanding the latter also don't understand the former.I do understand why people complain about "teleportation", I never said otherwise. What I say is - these complaints are quite stupid frankly, and I don't get why you think that each episode covers the same timeframe for each storyline (the assumption that leads to the "teleportation paradox"). Could you at least elaborate on that?
You do it again, you assume too much, while in reality, they only want a cool scene with all of Daenerys followers. There was nothing else he did there. They planted him in the scene, they gave no fucks about how he got there, in which timeframe, how much sense it would make etc.With that kind of logic you probably think Daenerys should die of hunger because they didn't show her eating anything since like season 3, she must be starving.
Legit to you, maybe.
But I mean, it makes perfect sense. To get what I was saying takes some understanding of context, and to understand the complaint and problems people have with the teleporting also takes some understanding of context. It's no surprise, then, that the two people incapable of understanding the latter also don't understand the former.
I do understand why people complain about "teleportation", I never said otherwise. What I say is - these complaints are quite stupid frankly, and I don't get why you think that each episode covers the same timeframe for each storyline (the assumption that leads to the "teleportation paradox"). Could you at least elaborate on that?I'm not assuming that. The teleportations don't only happen across different storylines. The Arya teleports, for example, have logical consistency -- it's just not very good writing to have her appear like that out of nowhere. They don't have to show weeks of boat travel, but they should have some exposition. E.g., Varys being in Dorne - that's fine, they showed him leaving. Varys suddenly being back with Daenerys, not fine, especially because the difference is so jarring: first they have big goodbyes and show him leaving, then suddenly he's back with Tyrion and Daenerys with no transition. But a lot of the teleports touch other storylines with characters who aren't teleporting, for example the Queen of Thorns, Jaime, Cersei storylines are all connected, with the two former teleporting across the place, while nothing seems to happen where Cersei is. Which doesn't make sense, after what Cersei did there'd surely be huge repercussions, what with her killing all those nobles (who have relatives and allies), the Tyrell army being the biggest one in Westeros, etc.
The classic Xant tactic when losing an argument - make unfounded remarks insulting the intelligence of those mentally superior to you every time you're getting fundamentally ruined instead of actually backing up your argument.Maybe I don't want to spend two hours explaining the obvious to dumb cunts who'd probably still manage to somehow misunderstand it.
I'm not assuming that. The teleportations don't only happen across different storylines. The Arya teleports, for example, have logical consistency -- it's just not very good writing to have her appear like that out of nowhere. They don't have to show weeks of boat travel, but they should have some exposition. E.g., Varys being in Dorne - that's fine, they showed him leaving. Varys suddenly being back with Daenerys, not fine, especially because the difference is so jarring: first they have big goodbyes and show him leaving, then suddenly he's back with Tyrion and Daenerys with no transition.So you are basically complaining that show producers don't have free screentime to show all the travels to make character moving more smooth. Yeah, well, I'd love GoT to be 100 episodes per year instead of 10. That's impossible though.
But a lot of the teleports touch other storylines with characters who aren't teleporting, for example the Queen of Thorns, Jaime, Cersei storylines are all connected, with the two former teleporting across the place, while nothing seems to happen where Cersei is. Which doesn't make sense, after what Cersei did there'd surely be huge repercussions, what with her killing all those nobles (who have relatives and allies), the Tyrell army being the biggest one in Westeros, etc.That's what I personally mean by "teleportaion" - when we can see that in a definite span of time some character moved unrealistically faster than he could. But do we know from the show how much time passed from Jaime leaving Kings Landing to Jaime arriving back and Cercei burning her enemies? I don't think so. What makes you think there's a contradiction there?
Also sansa rode off before ramsay says he has starved his dogs 7 days. then later says "you said it yourself...And what exactly is wrong with it?
And what exactly is wrong with it?Read it again. If he said it after she had left the bloody castle then how the fuck would she know what he said unless she has a superpowered ability to hear better (Although not surprising given the weird advantages that pretty much every female is given in the show)
burn the black runnerswhat are those?
And what exactly is wrong with it?
how the fuck would she know what he said unless she has a superpowered ability to hear betterOr unless she actually has living people around her to talk with?
She wasn't there to hear it? You're gonna pull a "Well, em, durr, Jon Stark told her ofc xdd", but they clearly fucked up, like they do on a lot of shit. Ofcourse, if you want to take your route, you can defend absolutely everything in the show that is being questioned with some bullshit. "It happened off scene".Thanks, although it's obvious as fuck that Jon or someone else of course told her. It's not like she tied Ramsey up in the cage with his dogs all by herself.
nice trap you tried to set up tho
what are those?Was just me making opposites, black runners, white walkers.
Or unless she actually has living people around her to talk with?Yeah I'm sure loads of people from the Bolton's castles escaped with her that day.. Oh.. Oh wait it was just her and Theon wasn't it? Oops!
Yeah I'm sure loads of people from the Bolton's castles escaped with her that day.. Oh.. Oh wait it was just her and Theon wasn't it? Oops!What are you even talking about?
You're grasping at straws Macro.
showing a piece of information which would easily make the story have a lot more sense to it.No it wouldn't, it would be a waste of time, "Hey Jon how should we kill Ramsey? Hey Sansa, he said he didn't feed his dogs. Alright then".
That being said, so much shit happened in that episode it was like every 5 fucking minutes something new happened, either way, pretty obvious that when Daenerys gets there everyone is just fucking dead. An army that size and three dragons? Nobody can stand up to that even with an army. In a way it's necessary because dragonfire reks the black runners so she needs to win to go over to the wall and burn the black runners
Sad to see Ramsay go, he was entertaining. Lost a lot of interest in this season, the remaining characters just feel boring, and the progress is slow and not interesting either. The battles were horribly boring and stupid. I mean Jons army are pretty well armored but not a single one wears a helmet or brings a shield.
Sad to see Ramsay go too, but this feeling of "this cant be anymore interesting now" has been proven false everytime a major/interesting sidekick died in all the seasons past. Maybe this time they went too far? I dont think so, Daenerys and Jon Snow alone (or even only one of them) can carry the show easily.
Also "progress being slow", every episode was brimming with arcs closing or new ones opening, if its slow and uninteresting you need to lay off the coke :P
The battle was superbly illustrated, one can only say that it wasnt entirely realistic but its the case with every shows.
There's absolutely no slash of grey left.
Highgarden have basically sworn fealty to Daenerys
Not to mention Asha and Theon got enough men from the iron islands to sail 50 ships, altough not enough to fight off Euron and his ten supporters.
I'd laugh so hard if they randomly were assigned a thousand ships. The Iron Islands are like Norway, maybe even worse, there's no fucking way you're building a thousand ships.
Maybe with help of other ships to sail to mainland to get more wood. But they were stolen :(
Trust TV shows to make it happen though.they are working on it but the supermarket ran out of popsicles. visitors can't see pics , please register or login
Euron said that every man had to build a ship, so it shall happen whether there are trees or not :twisted:
Therein lies the genius of HBO, why waste effort maintaining the same level of quality when people will keep watching anyway?Amc has them beat there then as apperently they have been underselling the walking dead stuff so the original creator got less of a percentage of profits. Some big lawsuit going on there with kirkman and amc. That show went farther downhill than GoT yet I still watch it because I have a hard time stopping without an end to the story.