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cRPG => Suggestions Corner => Topic started by: Tyr_ on August 20, 2012, 07:21:19 pm
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The sideswing of the spears isn't the most viable attack, even though its blunt damage i lose about 5-10% health if i get hit by a sideswing of a masterwork Warspear (0 Ironflesh, 60 Body armor), the only usefull attack is the stab which deals less damage than other polearms do (just take a look at the normal poleaxe). Atm the sideswings are only good for doing better feinting than with awlpike.
Also some of the rly awesome weapons like the wooden stick or the club have a knockdown, therefore i think the spears also deserve one. This would make the warspear a more versatile weapon, it's not the best hoplite polearm (most of them use Ashwood pike nowadays), but it would become very usefull once the shield is broken/sheated.
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Give some love to the spears!
Alternatively, make them really cheap like the 2h axes.
Not the best weapons, but good for their price.
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Knockdown weapons
don'tshouldn't have pierce stab.
Nuff said.
Edit : Damn thoses sily weapons.
But they're big sturdy things, so it feels okay. A lance having knockdown is silly.
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Knockdown weapons don't have pierce stab.
Nuff said.
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Owned.
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These weapon will become to much OP no ?
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Buff the thrust instead, then buff the thrust more, then nerf the swings.
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So polestagger gets removed, and you just want to replace it with knockdown? How about we just buff the stats of those weapons instead, especially since this is already being worked on(or already done). No sense adding skill-less RNG to weapons that just lost their RNG gimmicks. More skill, more depth, less RNG.
2-3 speed buff and a 3-4 blunt damage buff, and I'd consider them well reimbursed for the loss of polestagger.
Edit: You really want to give knockdown to 150 length weapons with 95 or 97 speed? Knockdown, so they can hit you once with a swing, stab you on the ground, kick you as you're rising, then stab you again. This combo would almost certainly gib anyone. Terrible idea. The weapons need a buff, but this is just a terrible way of going about balance. They'd be longer and faster than any current weapon with knockdown.
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Make the swings do cut damage? Some of these spear-type poles have edged heads.
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double sided lance needs the biggest buff of all.
With spear type weapons the swing ends up delivering most of the succesful hits but when you compare the usability of a spear to the hafted maces(dildo on a stick) it is very obvious how inferior the spears are. In native warband they are over-powered like everything else but they just arent very good in cRPG against hordes of enemy they just dont have the dps of the more powerful polearms.
I have never used a masterwork one on a server with under 250ping but i can safely say they are not great weapons in their base form.
btw balancing should be modelled on stock items not heirloomed ones.
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lol i am ably to 2 stab 60 armour........ and the sideswings do alot more damage with speed bonuses and if i com up to an enemy with 60 body armour there so slow its so easy to stab them i mean feinting with 9 athletics and 181wpf makes stabb spamming easy especial with a couple smacks here and there, the warspear is an amazing weapon i do the best with this weapon over any other weapon, you just have to be able to use it. Its really long and really fast and does a ton of damage with speed bonuses. I havnt been playing crpg too long but i can kill alot of really good people with my warspear agility build and againt people with lower armour you can 3-5 smack them with 30-50 armour and warspear sideswings are really easy to hit people with especially with a agility build....i mean being able to 2-3 stab plate with 4-5 powerstrike is pretty good i think with an average of 4 smacks to kill most medium armed people i think the warspear is pretty good i mean i 3 smack alot of people just saying 4 becuase that usally the most you would need. And i can 1 hit very low armoured people with a sideswing, speed bonuses are so amazing with the warspear. Dont uderestimate the warspear its an amazing weapon alot of really good people use it sauce,bigsamwhich, etc. slow heavy targets with 60 body armour most probaly arnt going to be smacking alot instead throwing out alot more stabs that will drop you very quikcly. WARSPEAR AGILITY BUILDS ARE AMAZING!!!!!!! abusing your range and speed is one key thing to the mighty war spear and you cant forget that insta-stab.
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Right, well this thread was from last year so we can assume this is a long dead discussion.
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yes please, add knockdown to spears, because spammers like Slicky need it :evil:
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Last time I checked spears were meant to be stabbed with, not swung around like some Jackie chan jr.
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War Spear is beast already; there's no need for cheap knockdown.
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Make the swings do cut damage? Some of these spear-type poles have edged heads.
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Pierce damage, you mean...?
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But you forgot that most times when you swing with this weapon you hit with wooden part. Spears ae for stabbing, so no buffing dmg on swings, but buff dmg on stab. And no for knockdown, too many weapons have it in c-rpg. Especially it should be remowed from some 1h weapons
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Necro'd a year old thread.
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Necro'd a year old thread.
I don't think kd rolls being implemented is enough to justify kd for these weapons, especially since we did the damage reimbursement thing that I talked about on page 1 (to some extent).
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Just make the overheads stabs like in was and now, that should be good enough in my opinion.
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why are all people now downvoting a long forgotten thread?
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pierce dmg, blunt dmg, high speed... ye I think knockdown i s missing, add shield breaking while you're at it -___-'
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why are all people now downvoting a long forgotten thread?
Because the idea is still very dumb.