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Title: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on October 03, 2011, 10:29:49 pm
Hi, my name is Ganner and im an addi... err Badmin.  Please leave your feedback after the beep.

Beep.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: SeQuel on October 03, 2011, 10:31:05 pm
I prefer chokolate Malk, but yah know chokolate mielk is fine too.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: a_bear_irl on October 03, 2011, 10:39:13 pm
Ranked third in Bears Badmin Bulletin for the terrible crime of unjust bannings (an hour for not trying when I'm a sub-20 peasant? Come on) and even worse, making me miss my map because you're literally retarded and decided WELP NOBODY LIKES THIS MAP LETS CHANGE IT WAIT WHAT YOU ALL LIKE IT? OH WELL I CANT CHANGE IT BACK LOL
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Kreczor on October 03, 2011, 10:42:24 pm
I liek chokolate mielk

^^ didn't know that was an option and voted too quickly.....
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Digglez on October 04, 2011, 12:18:01 am
you've done a good job the few times I've seen you on.  you dont play enough
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Anwyl on October 10, 2011, 08:56:23 am
I <3 You.

But never seen you admin.

The last posting from your IP was less than 60 seconds ago. Please try again later.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 10, 2011, 09:09:21 am
I thought I was the only one who got those messages!

Anywho, good admin with pecks of steel.

I voted for the chokolate mielk though.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: LordBerenger on October 10, 2011, 01:07:01 pm
Who is this  :?:
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Earthdforce on October 11, 2011, 08:55:13 pm
I thought I was the only one who got those messages!
Did you forget that other people (me) post as much as you do? Well, when they're on, that is...
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 11, 2011, 10:25:18 pm
Did you forget that other people (me) post as much as you do? Well, when they're on, that is...

I did, actually. I find myself posting slightly less though, a small shame. Not my usual 1K a month, slowing down to 700 or so :/
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Braeden on October 11, 2011, 10:40:40 pm
I did, actually. I find myself posting slightly less though, a small shame. Not my usual 1K a month, slowing down to 700 or so :/

Top 10 Posters

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Gorath    2626
Vibe    2103
Xant    1750
Keshian    1720
Kafein    1626
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Zapper    1520
Earthdforce    1513
Christo    1510
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 11, 2011, 10:49:51 pm
Counting my unregistered posts it is up to 5549 (right before I post this), viewable by going to the last page of my "view posts"  :lol:

Sad, I know...  :(

I don't feel too bad though making up over 2% of the forum posts...  this really is the only place I post (I don't even use reddit, I am just that two dimensional on the internet).
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Jarlek on October 11, 2011, 11:24:45 pm
Top 10 Posters

Tears_of_Destiny    5317
Gorath    2626
Vibe    2103
Xant    1750
Keshian    1720
Kafein    1626
Thovex    1565
Zapper    1520
Earthdforce    1513
Christo    1510
FUCK need to make 46 more posts! Can't be beaten by Thovex!

Also:
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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Earthdforce on October 11, 2011, 11:46:29 pm
Counting my unregistered posts it is up to 5549 (right before I post this), viewable by going to the last page of my "view posts"  :lol:

Sad, I know...  :(

I don't feel too bad though making up over 2% of the forum posts...  this really is the only place I post (I don't even use reddit, I am just that two dimensional on the internet).
Yeah, I've got like 2100 posts total or so. Silly spam section taking up most of my time!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on October 14, 2011, 06:49:55 am
Very bad of course.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 01, 2011, 04:18:54 pm
Ban happy moron who doesn't understand racism. Has a false sense of self worth and entitlement. I seriously cannot believe the crpg community let such a pathetic excuse for a human being be an admin.

Just sayin.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 01, 2011, 05:05:46 pm
Quick to ban repeat offenders and uses the "common sense rule." Gives out short bans to get the point across without pulling a Tears, very active in the ban/unban section. Great Admin, keep it up.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on December 01, 2011, 06:51:13 pm
Ban happy moron who doesn't understand racism. Has a false sense of self worth and entitlement. I seriously cannot believe the crpg community let such a pathetic excuse for a human being be an admin.

Just sayin.

Use of the N word in any context is not allowed around me.  I was feeling generous so I muted you instead of giving you a short vacation.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Anwyl on December 01, 2011, 08:15:21 pm
Ban happy moron who doesn't understand racism. Has a false sense of self worth and entitlement. I seriously cannot believe the crpg community let such a pathetic excuse for a human being be an admin.

Just sayin.

Oh he's arcani... That explains it.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on December 01, 2011, 09:42:47 pm
Oh he's arcani... That explains it.

.. really?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 02, 2011, 12:39:54 am
Use of the N word in any context is not allowed around me.  I was feeling generous so I muted you instead of giving you a short vacation.
Do you see this ignorant bullshit he is saying? Fucking inflated sense of self-worth. In the context, it wasn't racist-therefore not against the rules. "I was feeling generous. ...not allowed around me."-Both things a power tripping admin would say.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Anwyl on December 02, 2011, 01:10:09 am
Do you see this ignorant bullshit he is saying? Fucking inflated sense of self-worth. In the context, it wasn't racist-therefore not against the rules. "I was feeling generous. ...not allowed around me."-Both things a power tripping admin would say.
.. really?

Yes.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 02, 2011, 01:16:28 am
Yes.

Explain.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on December 02, 2011, 06:34:37 am
Arcani is dead, unfortunately.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Smoothrich on December 02, 2011, 10:28:51 am
Do you see this ignorant bullshit he is saying? Fucking inflated sense of self-worth. In the context, it wasn't racist-therefore not against the rules. "I was feeling generous. ...not allowed around me."-Both things a power tripping admin would say.

Please elaborate on the context of your use of the "n" word which you deem an acceptable usage in a medieval knights mod NA multiplayer server game
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 02, 2011, 04:15:09 pm
Please elaborate on the context of your use of the "n" word which you deem an acceptable usage in a medieval knights mod NA multiplayer server game

"How in the n***** did his stab go through my block?" Not insult nor racist, just a random curse word like when people say "How in the fuck" or "How in the shitballs." There is no way this violates the rules.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Anwyl on December 02, 2011, 05:02:27 pm
"How in the n***** did his stab go through my block?" Not insult nor racist, just a random curse word like when people say "How in the fuck" or "How in the shitballs." There is no way this violates the rules.

I'm pretty sure Smoothrich was being facetious. There is no "acceptable usage" of the n-word in a medieval knights mod NA multiplayer server game.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Uumdi on December 02, 2011, 07:16:30 pm
Last time I dropped a hard "R" I got tarred and feathered.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Patricia on December 03, 2011, 12:30:52 am
Use of the N word in any context is not allowed around me.  I was feeling generous so I muted you instead of giving you a short vacation.

Lol, white guilt.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 03, 2011, 01:20:32 am
Lol, white guilt.

Seriously, just because Ganner (and seemingly the majority of people) are afraid of the word does not make the use of it racist. The admin should be taking the context and intentions into account. My intention was not to be racist nor insulting, and I wasn't. He had no right to mute me according to their server rules.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on December 03, 2011, 02:39:11 am
The KKK don't mean to be insulting either, and truly believe in what they say in a factorial sense.

Don't be racist.
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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 03, 2011, 04:04:19 am
The KKK don't mean to be insulting either, and truly believe in what they say in a factorial sense.

Don't be racist.
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This isn't comparable at all. You have no point. I did't use it in a "factorial sense" to imply that my race is superior. I used it jokingly to intensify my question ("How in the fuck") like any other curse word. The KKK are racist because they believe their race is superior. Where at all does my use of the word imply that same sort of sentiment?

Yeah, sure if I had used it as a derogatory to an entire race and truly believed what I had said-then you'd have a point. You ever heard of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_analogy)?

This isn't even mentioning the fact that people like Spookisland insult and grief every. single. time they log into the server and you hypocritical admins don't do shit to them.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: B3RS3RK on December 03, 2011, 05:32:36 pm
How in the N***** is a very uncommon usage of that word.

next time try Whats up n***** or N****, that was a nice shot.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Nasturtium on December 03, 2011, 06:32:33 pm
Ganner is alright, he responded to a pick of me tooling around with a pike on a horse by giving me a 24 hour ban, then unbanned me when I explained how I am a special needs child.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gorath on December 12, 2011, 10:13:00 am
There is no reason to use that word OTHER than to piss people off because of it's racist connotations.  You're just proving yourself a douche here.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gricks on December 14, 2011, 01:35:30 am
There is no reason to use that word OTHER than to piss people off because of it's racist connotations.  You're just proving yourself a douche here.

No reason to use the word other than to piss people off? Your absolutist thinking just makes you look fucking retarded. I didn't say it to piss anyone off. If it did piss anyone off, they are just oversensitive and filled with white guilt because it definitely was not racist.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Patricia on December 15, 2011, 04:14:57 pm
No hard R, or u get bent.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on January 21, 2012, 09:01:18 pm
Great admin, would vote again.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Emotion on March 26, 2012, 11:37:33 pm
Waaaaaayyy too quick with judgements and accusations before searching for facts and listening to the community, not terrible, but not good either.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: bigsean on March 30, 2012, 07:17:44 pm
Waaaaaayyy too quick with judgements and accusations before searching for facts and listening to the community, not terrible, but not good either.

+1

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,29039.msg425396.html

NA1 admins these days at work

this is where I call you a shitmin and you sit there and take it
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on March 30, 2012, 11:59:25 pm
Such a shitmin I think he is one of the best admins of NA. Keep it up.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Herr_Thomas on April 02, 2012, 06:10:18 pm
I was never warned for that ban, on my alt "Golfwang", just bang, b&.

if you're that serious about the ban, how long is it for?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 02, 2012, 06:15:51 pm
6 hour ban and you were indeed warned for it.

Except you were afk autorunning leeching so of course you didnt see the warning. Luckily i only banned you for 6 hours.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Herr_Thomas on April 02, 2012, 06:19:35 pm
Lol, yeah I didn't see it. Well, alright then.  :?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Dach on April 03, 2012, 05:09:34 am
oh my ... we should totally make a sticky in the unban section with these last 3 post.

 :lol:
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Herr_Thomas on April 03, 2012, 08:35:27 am
I didn't mind, it was actually good because I had an essay I needed to finish and I couldn't play cRPG to blow it off.  :P
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Crazyi on April 10, 2012, 07:40:03 pm
Failure to gather more evidence.
Failure to assume information not present.

Pic 1- Trampled @ full speed at start of round, I even apologized in the chat.
Pic 2- If I had been harassing her so much, there is a staircase about 5 feet away, but yet she chose to stand on flat ground(she was intetionally running infront of my horse)
Pic 3- Didnt even hurt her because I had to slow down any time she was infront of me.

I am a TW machine? It was my first and only time EVER being 5/5 kicked. EVER.

"revenge" teamkilling at spawn previously (a cav bumped him by accident during a fight so he killed him at spawn the next round out of spite in front of my eyes), and he obviously has rage issues." -Smoothrich.
Your memory is failing. It was at the end of the round, if you would like to go read the thread again. This is my first and only intentional TK.

You guys are worthless. 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 10, 2012, 07:52:22 pm
16:15:43 - Crazyi <img=ico_spear> Miley
 16:15:43 - Crazyi team-killed Miley
 16:15:44 - Miley reported Crazyi for teamwounding. Penalty: [3/5]
 16:16:06 - Hospitaller_Virus reported Crazyi for teamwounding. Penalty: [4/5]
 16:16:12 - [Crazyi] LOL fuck you bundle of stickss

Sounds very apologetic to me.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Crazyi on April 10, 2012, 08:20:43 pm
Can you post the 2 seconds before that log?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 10, 2012, 08:25:02 pm
 16:15:27 - Hospitaller_Frogger <img=ico_swordtwo> YouAndMe_Pacino
 16:15:29 - *DEAD* [Noelle] dat x4
 16:15:29 - King_Leon_of_Chaos <img=ico_swordone> Mentalcase
 16:15:32 - *DEAD* [RedditWarrior] yeah, RIP
 16:15:33 - *DEAD* [Projectile_Vomit] my old friendggetettts
 16:15:35 - *DEAD* [Noelle] get on my level, white
 16:15:35 - To_Kill_A_Dead_Horse_MHz <img=ico_swordtwo> Hospitaller_Devilize
 16:15:37 - Shana <img=ico_swordtwo> To_Kill_A_Dead_Horse_MHz
 16:15:41 - SarahJessicaParker <img=ico_horseimpact> Hospitaller_Aztek
 16:15:43 - Crazyi <img=ico_spear> Miley
 16:15:43 - Crazyi team-killed Miley


WHAR APPOLOGY WHAR?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Crazyi on April 10, 2012, 08:55:48 pm
The apology is in her screenshot. I was looking for who we were both trying to kill before I stabbed her, I guess it was the person SJP ran over.



"The best cav are always a bit careless when it comes to teambumps but you honestly cant expect us to warn someone for accidental teambumping. There are people out there that will press M at any little accidental teamwound just to be a dick, to lol at their friend, or simply because they got hit and the big text came up.  Come back when you have proof that he did it intentional and yes, I'll ban him on the spot.  Until then enjoy the free multi that cav provide you when you get balanced on the cav superstar team, or rage at them every time they lance you." - Ganner



Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: bigsean on April 10, 2012, 09:06:53 pm
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i was top of the scoreboard when this happened with noone else on my team with positive kdr, i had to bump teammates to kill the enemies fighting them because you were all awful and couldnt kill anyone yourself.
- badplayer after 5/5 teamreports

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The best cav are always a bit careless when it comes to teambumps but you honestly cant expect us to warn someone for accidental teambumping. There are people out there that will press M at any little accidental teamwound just to be a dick, to lol at their friend, or simply because they got hit and the big text came up.  Come back when you have proof that he did it intentional and yes, I'll ban him on the spot.  Until then enjoy the free multi that cav provide you when you get balanced on the cav superstar team, or rage at them every time they lance you.
- ganner

5/5 means they got their punishment hurr hurr, gotta prove its intentional im blind hurr hurr

follow your own precedent or just admit you're literally incapable
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 10, 2012, 09:07:59 pm
Yea, because one out of context quote makes you right.

The thread that was posted in had no evidence other than a screenshot of the logs.  Mileys thread had screenshots of you trampling her with no one around + the logs where you dont seem to care that you wounded/tked anyone.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: bigsean on April 10, 2012, 09:10:58 pm
lmbo out of context yeah right

same topic

Quote
Again, I see no issue here.  Badplayer riding into the melee to get kills is nothing different than any other cav doing it.  As for the poll, of course the other team will vote 1 on him, and the ragers on his team that got bumped will vote 1 so that is a flimsy argument at best.

Again, bring me evidence he was intentionally bumping people to damage them/kill them/get them killed and he will be banned on the spot. Until then there's no issue. 

This represents my opinion only if any other admin sees an issue here, feel free to slap the ban hammer down.
- ganner

oh and you check logs now? an improvement

stop hiding out here
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 10, 2012, 09:13:39 pm
Yes badplayer running over his teammates to kill enemies is EXACTLY the same as someone intentional riding over someone to grief them!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: bigsean on April 10, 2012, 09:16:01 pm
Yes badplayer running over his teammates to kill enemies is EXACTLY the same as someone intentional riding over someone to grief them!

so just because he says he was the top player (he wasn't), you turn a blind eye?

you actually aren't supposed to tk/tw ever, learn the rules
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on April 10, 2012, 09:19:26 pm
And what your saying is lancer cav should never ever ride into the melee to get kills cause invariably they will bump a teammate on accident so thats bad!

And what your also saying is melee shouldn't clump up together cause accidentally they may hit each other and thats bad!

And what your also saying is that ranged should never take the shot cause they may hit each other and thats bad!


Your arguments here are flimsier than your argument that chaos was balance abusing.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: bigsean on April 10, 2012, 09:20:47 pm
And what your saying is lancer cav should never ever ride into the melee to get kills cause invariably they will bump a teammate on accident so thats bad!

And what your also saying is melee shouldn't clump up together cause accidentally they may hit each other and thats bad!

And what your also saying is that ranged should never take the shot cause they may hit each other and thats bad!


Your arguments here are flimsier than your argument that chaos was balance abusing.

lmbo stop skewing my arguments

come back to general if you think you're so right
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on April 10, 2012, 10:04:12 pm
Damn it why couldn't you wait till I got home to ban him.  I wanted to make my admin thread more popular.   :evil:
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on April 10, 2012, 10:10:12 pm
Damn it why couldn't you wait till I got home to ban him.  I wanted to make my admin thread more popular.   :evil:

LOL fine ill give you a free bump, btw good job Ganner
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Rainbow on April 11, 2012, 03:28:18 am
And what your saying is lancer cav should never ever ride into the melee to get kills cause invariably they will bump a teammate on accident so thats bad!

And what your also saying is melee shouldn't clump up together cause accidentally they may hit each other and thats bad!

And what your also saying is that ranged should never take the shot cause they may hit each other and thats bad!


Your arguments here are flimsier than your argument that chaos was balance abusing.

Lol.  I just had a flash back to Robin hood and his band of merry men in the movie Shrek when he said "Thats bad thats bad thats very very bad".  Good times.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: zeeno on June 02, 2012, 08:43:37 pm
Terrible admin.

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on June 02, 2012, 09:22:46 pm
Terrible admin.

indeed.

I dunno what happened when i muted you, i ment to do it for a moment and instantly tried to unmute you, but it keep saying 30 sec was unmuted :o
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: engurrand on June 11, 2012, 07:23:52 am
nice guy but forced me to play on EU via NA ban because i accidentally TW twice.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MrShine on July 05, 2012, 10:48:18 pm
Used adminchat while dead to alert his team that the entire enemy team was in a trapped area.  Considering they were all in a quasi "unreachable" area I don't mind this so much, but it would have been better to state it that way and request people to go spec, instead of basically giving his team a suggestion to wait for flags.

Then shortly afterwards banning a clanmate after there was a discussion about Zeeno getting muted for saying "niggas".  Zetank_Astralis asked about it and got muted.

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This mute seemed quite uncalled for, since it is clear the intention wasn't to use the word as a slur, but to say "wow that's the word you said that got you muted?".

Not a huge deal in general, but seemed a little inappropriate.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 05, 2012, 11:05:57 pm
There is an area in a battle map where if you fall into it you cannot escape it. 6 members of my team had fallen into it and were trapped. We were waiting for enemies to jump in after us and we quit effectively killed several enemies. The round before that we had won the round because of this. about halfway through the next round, there were only 8 people left on our team and 14 on their team. 6 of us were in this enclosed area. Ganner who was DEAD and on the enemy team. realizing we were trapped. Decided to use admin chat to warn his teammates! Effectively CHEATING with admin abilities. If he was alive and used admin chat to tell his teammates who cares it just makes it more noticeable, but since he was DEAD and there should be no way for him to warn his teammates other than outside the game he used an ability that was created to keep the fighting civil not to warn and cheat. Admin chat should not be a function you use to warn teammates from the dead and is complete bullshit that this moron is given the ability to do this. He cant handle the responsibility of being a fair and unbiased admin. Why not every admin just turn on show names so they can see how many hits the enemy needs to be killed? This is a complete misuse of his admin abilities and I feel like he shouldn't have access these abilities anymore.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on July 06, 2012, 12:27:39 am
Except this map has been around forever, and it is well known that if you go into EITHER of those two pens you cannot get out.  Most of your team went in there after one round of meridus being stuck.

Would you have listened if i told your team to go to spec?  No you would of yelled ABOOOZE and we arent doing it!

What happened the very next round after i said that?  At least 10 more of your teammates when in there again including more atralis.  Causing your team to lose again and my multi to keep rolling.

I used Pink chat for 2 reasons, 1 so that my team wouldent be stupid enough to jump in there and 2 for your team not to be stupid enough to go in there again next round, obviously they werent.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Scrambles720 on July 06, 2012, 01:59:00 am
Actually if you were even paying attention the next round we did lose but we didn't go into that pin again hahaha. And you shouldn't use pink chat to warn your teammates causing them to act differently. Something fair would of been something like don't purposefully go into there from now on not hey teammates don't mess with them wait for flags. Which in NO WAY is a warning to us (and 2 for your team not to be stupid enough to go in there again next round, obviously they weren't.) That is bullshit. Also learn to count! there were 6 of us in there that first time not 10 not at least 10, 6. If this map has been known to be a problem map then why haven't they removed it? Your trying to bullshit your way out of this but no. You warned your teammates so that you wouldn't lose the round so you could keep your multiplier no other reason plain and simple. You need to admit what you did and apologize not give me bullshit about how you were trying to tell us not to go into the pin. I mean seriously if you wanted to stop us from going in there you would of said something the first round! not when your teammates are jumping in there getting their asses kicked and you have to warn them to save your multi.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: betard_lulz on July 08, 2012, 09:14:54 pm
He obviously suffers from extreme amounts of white guilt and is a complete bundle of sticks. Called a delayer a gay nigga and ive been muted for two entire maps.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tanken on July 09, 2012, 12:23:36 am
Thanks for doing your job without bias Ganner, it is something other admins should look up to and admire, especially when tackling an issue that is a double-edged sword.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Smoothrich on July 09, 2012, 01:46:36 am
I like Ganner, I haven't been active in cRPG as much but I went on to handle a problem another admin was asking me to help with, and saw Ganner already giving out his Steam information to communicate to all parties and sort it out.  He's accessible, logical, isn't afraid to use admin powers (this isn't always a bad thing people!) and doesn't worry about the stress of negative reactions affecting his judgement.

Good guy and glad he is still around and taking care of business!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on July 09, 2012, 02:08:12 am
I like Ganner, I haven't been active in cRPG as much but I went on to handle a problem another admin was asking me to help with, and saw Ganner already giving out his Steam information to communicate to all parties and sort it out.  He's accessible, logical, isn't afraid to use admin powers (this isn't always a bad thing people!) and doesn't worry about the stress of negative reactions affecting his judgement.

Good guy and glad he is still around and taking care of business!

Agreed, through it hard to keep track of him due to his alts. (Guess his main Strikes Fear)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on July 14, 2012, 09:27:11 pm
Ganner you said , "Except you WERE leeching, hell i saw you doing it 2 days ago, naked with a practice dagger standing around or running in getting killed without even swinging it.  I gave you the benifit of the doubt that you had retired, obviously this was not so when i saw you riding your horse and 2 handing it up a few hours later."

and

People always forget to read the first clause of the rules

"first rule of em all: common sense"
        ~ chadz


If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.


Explanation: Leeching/greifing/other forms of douchebaggery are up to the discretion of the admins on if they are breaking the rules or not.  In general if you are being a determent to the community (in which you have multiple times this month) you will be banned.  I was even going to let the naked with a practice dagger leeching you were doing a couple mornings ago slide, but since you have decided to pick a fight with almost every admin you have come into contact with let me warn you:

Next ban you receive will be a nice LOOOOONG ban.

I'm like gen 20 so yah it takes me a few hours to get enough riding... and then 2 I was engaged in battle not leeching.  If I died because before swinging it was because of the daggers poor reach or getting shot.  But I was actually having a good time stabbing people and got 1 or 2 kills.  I would much rather come in with better gear during those early levels but it's a good opportunity to make some financial gains before the latter levels when I usually take losses due to the fact that I bring in expensive gear.

Which is why I'm making a big deal about this because I thought that was ok too, is it not? How can I not break the rules If I don't know what they are and they are not finite?  I honestly feel like I'm getting set up to be banned (largely due to me not shutting up).  Look I understand if an admin in game tells me to do something because he interprets the rules in a certain way I gotta do it.  but this most recent ban has me a bit befuddled.

I don't leech and I follow the rules (when I know what they are)!

Edit: You got me all wrong ganner I just need some clarification.  Anywayz love you bro and had a blast the other night when you were drunk and your a great admin.

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: genric on July 15, 2012, 07:28:15 pm
I like ganner. But thats mostly because he is friends with Uumdi and I <3 Uumdi
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 16, 2012, 06:44:54 am
Called a delayer a gay nigga and ive been muted for two entire maps.
This honestly surprised you?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Spanish on July 16, 2012, 05:24:39 pm
Idk why but when ganner does things he gets a lot more shit for it than when I do them and I have nothing but respect for the ganner and his call to action he deserves a medal for his service
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on August 08, 2012, 01:53:56 pm
Idk why but when ganner does things he gets a lot more shit for it than when I do them and I have nothing but respect for the ganner and his call to action he deserves a medal for his service

Ummm take a look at my thread please....
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on August 08, 2012, 06:29:29 pm
Ummm take a look at my thread please....

Hey now.  Stop trying to steal my badmin thunder.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Rumblood on August 08, 2012, 09:56:45 pm
I would mention that I have more feedback than either of you, but somehow I've slipped to the second page. Either GrannPappy has gotten softer or people just don't fuck around as much when he's around because they know he brings the walking cane of justice with him!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on August 08, 2012, 10:21:41 pm
It's because we love you so much Grannpappy!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Spanish on August 08, 2012, 11:21:45 pm
Naw it's all due to my amazing adminship and leading the masses to love me and thus love following the rules more leaving less anger to be directed at you badmins! :)

Your welcome guys!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Smoothrich on August 09, 2012, 01:56:24 am
My feedback thread still has the second most posts and views of any admin thread, only behind Meow but he doesn't count since its basically /r/catporn in there. 

That without a doubt makes me the most electrifying, rule defining, awe-inspiring, co-conspiring, popularity defying admin in cRPG Official Admin Feedback Subforum of Melee Gaming.Com history.  The mod may be dead but my legacy will live on, forever.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bjord on August 09, 2012, 03:21:31 am
Who are you, again?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Spanish on August 13, 2012, 12:26:21 am
I'm still most beloved admin ever so you keep that badmin title and why is Bjord always muted when I post after him?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on August 13, 2012, 01:04:53 am
I wear my badmin title with PRIDE buddy.

THIS
IS
MY
BANSTICK!
/raises banhammer
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on August 13, 2012, 01:15:59 am
:/ lucky chadz gave you a ban hammer he passed me a sickle
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: genric on August 13, 2012, 06:37:32 am
It's cause ganner has a jedi for his picture and muki always has some loli girl so no one wants to be mean to the girl picture.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on August 13, 2012, 07:52:37 pm
This fucking admin is best admin.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Lt_Anders on August 14, 2012, 06:18:44 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-(official)/warn-ganner-of-chaos/

 :mad:

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Malaclypse on August 14, 2012, 06:44:13 am
Lol.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Taser on August 14, 2012, 12:26:45 pm
DOG GIFS EVERYWHERE!

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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: chimy727 on August 24, 2012, 08:53:26 am
Terrible admin.   Does not do his job correctly, abuses his power, threatens to mute for no reason.
Title: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: Suckus Khan on August 24, 2012, 04:44:45 pm
Excuse me? A horse archer purposely delayed a round by over 2 minutes.. Not only was he terrible but he was leeching.  They said he wasnt breaking the rules.. No problem.. Next round I shoot his horse and kill it.  Problem solved. I got banned (for 3 hours my clanmates tell me)


So lets get this straight I save everyone precious time in the next round (everyone) by doing them a favor and I get banned instead of the guy that purposely delayed the round? Right.  Who assigns these admins anyway they're terrible.  This isn't the first time I've seen someone purposely delaying that wasn't ejected.  Excuse me for trying to do the community a favor.


Some of us have jobs and lives and dont have time to sit around while some guy dicks around on the server leeching XP.

OH also he did it the round after I was ejected too (the round he got his horse back) So obviously I wasnt in the wrong here
Title: Re: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: MrShine on August 24, 2012, 04:53:49 pm
First off you spelled his name wrong. It's Ganner
Second he already has a thread for this sort of feedback.  Try the [NA] Ganner one on the front page
Third he's following the rules of the server by allowing a horse archer who is actively fighting to play his class. 
Fourthly the developers have already added a counter to this - MOTF spawns flags when the last alive on a team is mounted.  Camp and profit.
Fifthly it is you who are breaking the rules; team wounding/killing is not acceptable, and it seems your (small) ban was justified.
Title: Re: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: Ganner on August 24, 2012, 04:56:43 pm
First off you spelled his name wrong. It's Ganner
Second he already has a thread for this sort of feedback.  Try the [NA] Ganner one on the front page
Third he's following the rules of the server by allowing a horse archer who is actively fighting to play his class. 
Fourthly the developers have already added a counter to this - MOTF spawns flags when the last alive on a team is mounted.  Camp and profit.
Fifthly it is you who are breaking the rules; team wounding/killing is not acceptable, and it seems your (small) ban was justified.

Dont even really need to reply other than to say +1
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MrShine on August 24, 2012, 04:58:51 pm
I know you had mentioned using QML in siege to test to see if people who look afk actually are (that thread with DL_Anders as reference).

Then there was a recent ban of Paul_in_ho_pow where he claimed an accidental QML report of Diggles, and you took part in banning Paul.

As a suggestion, I think it may not be the best idea to use QML reporting as a way to moderate in siege.  If it was turned around and a non-admin was doing that I think it would seem a highly suspect enforcement method.

That's all, on a different note I've reconsidered my opposition of you muting anyone who uses a racial slur (even in a more innocent context like asking a question), and I think the 0-tolerance policy is probably a good one, since a) it's just a mute and b) it avoids gray areas.  So I support the mute policy, even if it leads to some silly mutes.
Title: Re: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: Suckus Khan on August 24, 2012, 05:06:53 pm
Fair enough I couldnt SPELL his name as I was being told by other people. 


I used to play a horse archer I didnt run as far away from the village as possible and then avoid combat with the enemy team even when the flags were up.. I circled the enemy and shot them.  Maybe HA has changed but last I checked its a hit and run tactic not a run and run tactic. 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on August 24, 2012, 05:11:41 pm
Seems your getting more fans every week Ganner
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on August 24, 2012, 05:27:02 pm
I know you had mentioned using QML in siege to test to see if people who look afk actually are (that thread with DL_Anders as reference).

Then there was a recent ban of Paul_in_ho_pow where he claimed an accidental QML report of Diggles, and you took part in banning Paul.

As a suggestion, I think it may not be the best idea to use QML reporting as a way to moderate in siege.  If it was turned around and a non-admin was doing that I think it would seem a highly suspect enforcement method.

These situations are compleatly unrelated.

When in siege, I QML people who are in spawn areas standing still for at least 10 seconds.  Most of the time its longer than that if i see them right before i respawn i wont check again untill im dead.  Then I QML rather than outright kick.  I do this because I'm a bit more lenient in siege because of the respawns.  In battle you have time to die, go get a drink or go piss, or answer the phone or whatever in siege you dont.  The obvious hiding leechers get a kick/ban, the ones standing around in spawn get a QML.

The paul situation was a different story, he intended to QML an obviously active player namo (who was jumping in water to commit suicide rather than fight the long odds of winning).  The fact that the QML bugged and got diggles doesnt change the fact he used QML improperly.  And thats if we believe the story that he was actually going for namo (which i do in fact)

edit: and muki - GG GANNER FANS.
Title: Re: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: Ganner on August 24, 2012, 05:32:46 pm
Fair enough I couldnt SPELL his name as I was being told by other people. 


I used to play a horse archer I didnt run as far away from the village as possible and then avoid combat with the enemy team even when the flags were up.. I circled the enemy and shot them.  Maybe HA has changed but last I checked its a hit and run tactic not a run and run tactic.

If you noticed he ran outside of the village to draw one straggler to him, then circled around the village back to the others, cutting his targets down and spreading them out. Again completely valid tactic and played to his class.
Title: Re: [NA] GAANNER
Post by: Tears of Destiny on August 24, 2012, 06:33:51 pm
Some of us have jobs and lives and dont have time to sit around while some guy dicks around on the server leeching XP.

Some of us are rather literate and sensible and can actually look up server rules as well as display proper sportsmanship and common sense because we choose to act as adults.
If you are old enough to have a "Job" and a "Life" then you have very little excuse to act like a delinquent.

No excuse to TK teammates on purpose.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on August 24, 2012, 06:49:19 pm
GGGGGAAAAANNNNNEEEEERRRRR

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Dalfador on August 24, 2012, 10:40:15 pm
I told him to eat Gyros today instead of BBQ. He ignored me. -1.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on August 24, 2012, 10:51:57 pm
I told him to eat Gyros as well.

Fuck you ganner.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on August 25, 2012, 09:38:46 am
And i fucking did!

I did not ignore everyone.

BTW they were delicious gyros.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on August 25, 2012, 09:58:54 am
And i fucking did!

I did not ignore everyone.

BTW they were delicious gyros.

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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: HardRice on August 25, 2012, 06:03:56 pm
Favorite number is 24.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gmnotutoo on October 17, 2012, 11:35:00 pm
Hey Ganner, I've come to politely ask you to re-look at Adeyrn's ban thread against Lotus Slayer.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-request-lotusslayer/

Here is the thread where I requested punishment for intentional team wounding against archers. He seems to do this quite often.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/lotoslayer-delaying-teamwounding/msg578610/#msg578610
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ubereem on January 09, 2013, 07:56:00 am
lazy, biased and takes shit too personal instead of just doing his job
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on January 09, 2013, 06:45:11 pm
lazy, biased and takes shit too personal instead of just doing his job

Here is the TK in question:

[17:49:00] msg,Rubes team-killed Turner

[17:49:15] kill,FadedSigil,Rubes,melee,Masterwork War Cleaver,hb_forearm_r

15 seconds later he kills someone in the exact same spot he killed you.  Proof that he was fighting and accidentally killed you, but you were too busy raging from when he kicked you into the pit (for which I then warned him not to do) to notice that.  Like I said, we don't always respond, nor is it our responsibility to, but that doesn't mean we aren't watching and listening.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on January 09, 2013, 06:51:24 pm
Here is the TK in question:

[17:49:00] msg,Rubes team-killed Turner

[17:49:15] kill,FadedSigil,Rubes,melee,Masterwork War Cleaver,hb_forearm_r

15 seconds later he kills someone in the exact same spot he killed you.  Proof that he was fighting and accidentally killed you, but you were too busy raging from when he kicked you into the pit (for which I then warned him not to do) to notice that.  Like I said, we don't always respond, nor is it our responsibility to, but that doesn't mean we aren't watching and listening.

Ganner, your story sounds fake. For this to have happened, it means that you were actually playing.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on January 09, 2013, 09:29:02 pm
Ganner, your story sounds fake. For this to have happened, it means that you were actually playing.

This is true.  It is widely known that ive been MIA for some time now :O

But alas, my car is in the shop, and ive had free time to play vidja games the last couple of days.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on January 09, 2013, 10:45:42 pm
This is true.  It is widely known that ive been MIA for some time now :O

But alas, my car is in the shop, and ive had free time to play vidja games the last couple of days.

You should buy a new Ford.   8-)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Havoco on January 09, 2013, 11:15:12 pm
Fuck, ganners back. Now I'll have to spout racisms on another server.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 09, 2013, 11:45:19 pm
Got bribed today on NA1 to kill Ganner. He banned me for one day. Yes he is a good admin. I salute you.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on January 10, 2013, 02:54:20 am
I hope cyr paid up, cause his arse got banned too. :p
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ubereem on January 11, 2013, 10:55:34 pm
Here is the TK in question:

[17:49:00] msg,Rubes team-killed Turner

[17:49:15] kill,FadedSigil,Rubes,melee,Masterwork War Cleaver,hb_forearm_r

15 seconds later he kills someone in the exact same spot he killed you.  Proof that he was fighting and accidentally killed you, but you were too busy raging from when he kicked you into the pit (for which I then warned him not to do) to notice that.  Like I said, we don't always respond, nor is it our responsibility to, but that doesn't mean we aren't watching and listening.

listen pal... he kicked me into pit, then yes you warned him. the very next round I run up to the same pit spot(I travel light with 7 athletics, I am the first one there), no enemies are around. I have a crossbow and I would be aiming or shooting if enemies were around. I turn around to check on our advancing army(and look for cav) and BLAM Rubes overheads me, kills me in one hit. Then Rubes types "not sorry Turner" in chat. 15 seconds is a lot of frekin time for him to run off and find someone to kill.

You immediately locked my ban request thread without giving me time to respond or post the screenshot.

Fact is you don't want to be bothered with my injustice.

Fuck, ganners back. Now I'll have to spout racisms on another server.
Unless it's against white people, I'm sure that's ok...
Title: GANNER
Post by: Holiday203 on January 27, 2013, 10:31:32 am
Ganner.........you can't just ban someone without them being able to defend themselves. I had my first ban today which Ganner hoped right on lol, but this guy didn't even give me a chance to defend myself in the thread. WTF!
Title: Re: GANNER
Post by: Holiday203 on January 27, 2013, 10:34:22 am
Ganner.........you can't just ban someone without them being able to defend themselves. I had my first ban today which Ganner hoped right on lol, but this guy didn't even give me a chance to defend myself in the thread. WTF!

http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/%28ban-request%29-45021/
Title: Re: GANNER
Post by: Ganner on January 27, 2013, 10:38:52 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/%28na%29-ganner/

There is a thread already for feedback on my admin ability.  If you wish to dispute a ban, please submit an unban request as to why a TK less than 20 seconds into the round was not intentional.
Title: Re: GANNER
Post by: Holiday203 on January 27, 2013, 10:40:08 am
OH hey thanks for hearing my end of the story tool.
Title: Re: GANNER
Post by: Wesleysnipes on January 27, 2013, 10:40:33 am
-Ganner you fascist neo-chocolate chip cookie. You should join Teutonic thats what we're all about.

-Guy on the right with the pike... worst player.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Holiday203 on January 27, 2013, 10:42:45 am
WORST ADMIN EVER. WORST C-RPG PLAYER EVER.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Holiday203 on January 27, 2013, 11:37:30 am
listen pal... he kicked me into pit, then yes you warned him. the very next round I run up to the same pit spot(I travel light with 7 athletics, I am the first one there), no enemies are around. I have a crossbow and I would be aiming or shooting if enemies were around. I turn around to check on our advancing army(and look for cav) and BLAM Rubes overheads me, kills me in one hit. Then Rubes types "not sorry Turner" in chat. 15 seconds is a lot of frekin time for him to run off and find someone to kill.

You immediately locked my ban request thread without giving me time to respond or post the screenshot.

Fact is you don't want to be bothered with my injustice.
Unless it's against white people, I'm sure that's ok...

haha Ganner you suck.
Title: Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 07, 2013, 01:53:35 am
So today (more like a couple of days ago) Ganner randomly muted me for no reason.

I kept asking him in admin chat why he muted me and he wouldn't answer. I started spamming his name and then Liorick told me to stop spamming admin chat. Then I asked him why Ganner won't answer me, then Liorick told Ganner to answer me--still no answer.

So I stood in front of Ganner while he shot and he didn't say anything still. Then he said "sorry dude (or something like that)" and kicked me.

The only thing I said was something like "why do a bunch of dumb monkeys get millions of dollars to run around?" Then Plague called me racist, and I was like I didn't even say a race... and basically nothing on race. So I don't know why Ganner would do this. I was going to get the chat logs but Canary won't answer and Shik forgot to give me them.

[17:35:06] chat,,MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD,team,WE'RE A BUNCH OF DUMB MONKEYS GETTING PAID MILLIONS TO RUN AROUND
[17:35:12] chat,,M4X,team,racist
[17:35:16] chat,,MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD,team,Racist?
[17:35:32] chat,,ArcLegos_ManAtArms_of_TKoV,team,wouldn't you do it if you could though Miley? just sayainmg
[17:35:32] chat,,M4X,team,u said football is a bunch of monkeys thats racist as shit
[17:35:43] chat,,MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD,team,NO
[17:35:45] chat,,M4X,team,miley racist
[17:35:46] chat,,Hospitaller_LastKaze,team,all humans are monkeys
[17:35:51] chat,,MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD,team,No
[17:36:04] msg,Ganner_of_Chaos muted player MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD.
[17:36:07] chat,,ArcLegos_ManAtArms_of_TKoV,team,Miley hates football players, he's racist, prema ban

Tambien, te lo puedes meter por tu culo Ganner, y vete a la mierda. Ya se que vas a ver esto y buscar lo que significa.
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Shadowren on February 07, 2013, 07:49:31 pm
So today (more like a couple of days ago) Ganner randomly muted me for no reason.



So I stood in front of Ganner while he shot and he didn't say anything still. Then he said "sorry dude (or something like that)" and kicked me.

The only thing I said was something like "why do a bunch of dumb monkeys get millions of dollars to run around?" Then Plague called me racist, and I was like I didn't even say a race... and basically nothing on race. So I don't know why Ganner would do this. I was going to get the chat logs but Canary won't answer and Shik forgot to give me them.

1. Griefing
2. Racist remark

This is Ganners admin thread ------> http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/%28na%29-ganner/

If forum Admins can Merge this and Ganners original thread Plz and thanks.
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: MrShine on February 07, 2013, 08:07:24 pm
Thanks for posting part of the logs, here's the fall-out, and probably the reason Ganner didn't choose to respond to you.
Generally spamming isn't going to help your case, and I'm actually pretty surprised you weren't kicked - that shows patience from the admins on at the time tbh.

[17:36:12] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted?
[17:36:50] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:04] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:06] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:09] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:11] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:14] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:17] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why was I muted
[17:37:46] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] WHY HWAS I MUTED
[17:37:48] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] WHY WAS I MUTED
[17:37:50] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] WHY WAS I MUTED
[17:37:52] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] WHY WAS I MUTED
[17:37:54] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:55] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:55] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:56] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:57] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:57] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:58] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:59] chat,,Occitan_Liorick,team,stop spamming Miley
[17:37:59] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:37:59] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:38:00] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] ?
[17:38:07] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Well tell him to answer me
[17:40:58] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Ganner why was I muted
[17:41:00] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] GANNER
[17:41:00] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] GANNER
[17:41:01] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] GANNER
[17:41:02] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] GANNER
[17:41:11] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Gash why isn't he answering?????
[17:41:31] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Liorick?
[17:41:33] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Gash?
[17:41:41] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why isn't he answering
[17:41:46] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why did he mute me randomly
[17:45:42] msg,[PLAYER2ADMIN][MileyMondaren_BATS_UniCavBRD] Why is idiot ganner ignoring me?
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 09, 2013, 12:49:44 am
No Shine it shows an idiot admin not doing his job properly. Shine you obviously misread or something? I SAID I SPAMMED SO NOT I'M NOT LEAVING THINGS OUT.

Shadowren your post was totally pointless.
I'm not arguing the kick. Please tell me what race I mentioned. LOL what an idiot you are. I forgot that monkeys was a race and that calling monkeys dumb was racist.

Wow man you people really are dumb aren't you :s
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Molly on February 09, 2013, 01:15:47 am
From an outside point of view I don't see anything racist.
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: cmp on February 09, 2013, 01:34:47 am
From an outside point of view I don't see anything racist.

It's racist towards dumb monkeys to call them football players.
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Molly on February 09, 2013, 01:49:58 am
It's racist towards dumb monkeys to call them football players.

Now I get it. Since American Football isn't actually played with the foot and... No, sorry, still don't get it   :cry:
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Smoothrich on February 09, 2013, 07:59:51 am

Now I get it. Since American Football isn't actually played with the foot and... No, sorry, still don't get it   :cry:

Most football players are black.  Though "gorillas" would be more apt then monkeys for those linebackers.  Yet some tiny running backs are like graceful chimpanzees.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 09, 2013, 03:39:18 pm
Good job Ganner.
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 09, 2013, 07:56:17 pm
From an outside point of view I don't see anything racist.

The one's who think I was being racist are the racist ones. They're obviously stereotyping football to a race and then me calling football players dumb monkeys makes it racist? I didn't mention a race. You (couple) admins are the ones stereotyping and putting a race in your head.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MrShine on February 09, 2013, 10:21:27 pm
Using that same logic Miley that means we could be talking about a hockey game, and I could say "JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB CRACKERS CHUCKING A PUCK AROUND"

...what?  Cracker isn't a race!  :rolleyes:

Even if you didn't mean it in a racial way it seems pretty clear how it could have been construed as racial. It was only a mute, not worth freaking out about, certainly not days later.  You could have easily been kicked or even banned for spamming admin for as long as you did.  Or you could do what most people do, which is accept the mute, get un-muted 5 minutes later when the map ends, and that's that.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 09, 2013, 10:26:50 pm
Using that same logic Miley that means we could be talking about a hockey game, and I could say "JUST A BUNCH OF DUMB CRACKERS CHUCKING A PUCK AROUND"

...what?  Cracker isn't a race!  :rolleyes:

Even if you didn't mean it in a racial way it seems pretty clear how it could have been construed as racial. It was only a mute, not worth freaking out about, certainly not days later.  You could have easily been kicked or even banned for spamming admin for as long as you did.  Or you could do what most people do, which is accept the mute, get un-muted 5 minutes later when the map ends, and that's that.

Except that's basically the n word for white people... I didn't mention any race. Lol stop trying to bend it into something it's not. I'm probably the least racist person on here. Please tell me what race a monkey is idiot.

This post was supposed to be made the day this happened but Shik didn't give me the chat in time. And then Canary gave me it two days later. Ganner also could have answered me like an admin should. If most people thought it was okay to kill innocent people that wouldn't make it right. So I don't know why you're telling me what the majority would do.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MrShine on February 09, 2013, 10:34:36 pm
Crack open a history book, calling black people "monkeys, primates, apes" etc has been used as a racial slur for ages.  The mute was justified, even if you didn't realize what you were saying.   
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 09, 2013, 10:53:00 pm
Sorry maybe you should tell cmp to add reading history books on different types of racial insults were used for which groups of people to the rules list. Don't be dumb. I DIDN'T MENTION A RACE, nor did I mean to imply a race. There's like every race playing football. The mute was not justified.

Lol at the things some people need to have shoved through their heads.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 10, 2013, 01:30:57 am
Saying monkeys in reference to a black dominated sport (football) is pretty obvious.

You were wrong. Be happy you were only muted.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Rumblood on February 10, 2013, 04:33:28 am
http://www.examiner.com/article/is-it-racist-to-note-that-the-patriots-stellar-offense-is-overwhelmingly-white (http://www.examiner.com/article/is-it-racist-to-note-that-the-patriots-stellar-offense-is-overwhelmingly-white)  :|
Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Shadowren on February 10, 2013, 05:11:21 am
So today (more like a couple of days ago) Ganner randomly muted me for no reason.



So I stood in front of Ganner while he shot and he didn't say anything still. Then he said "sorry dude (or something like that)" and kicked me.

The only thing I said was something like "why do a bunch of dumb monkeys get millions of dollars to run around?" Then Plague called me racist, and I was like I didn't even say a race... and basically nothing on race. So I don't know why Ganner would do this. I was going to get the chat logs but Canary won't answer and Shik forgot to give me them.
1. Griefing
2. Racist remark

This is Ganners admin thread ------> http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/%28na%29-ganner/

If forum Admins can Merge this and Ganners original thread Plz and thanks.


No Shine it shows an idiot admin not doing his job properly. Shine you obviously misread or something? I SAID I SPAMMED SO NOT I'M NOT LEAVING THINGS OUT.

Shadowren your post was totally pointless.
I'm not arguing the kick. Please tell me what race I mentioned. LOL what an idiot you are. I forgot that monkeys was a race and that calling monkeys dumb was racist.

Wow man you people really are dumb aren't you :s

Yes Miley, yes my post did make sense. You are just so incredibly stupid it flew over your head. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, you absorb nothing i say. At the end of the day common sense overrules everything.

Quote

    "first rule of em all: common sense"
        ~ chadz

If you still dont understand look at the Spoiler below!  :mrgreen:

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Title: Re: Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 10, 2013, 07:05:13 am


Yes Miley, yes my post did make sense. You are just so incredibly stupid it flew over your head. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, you absorb nothing i say. At the end of the day common sense overrules everything.

If you still dont understand look at the Spoiler below!  :mrgreen:

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Yet I didn't even mention a race. OH MY THE STUPIDITY OF SHADOWREN.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 10, 2013, 04:01:16 pm
You implied race when you used a term associated with racial discrimination, then used it in the context of a sport that is dominated by the race discriminated by the term.

Stop acting like a child and be happy you weren't banned. stfu kthxbai
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 11, 2013, 03:39:49 am
You implied race when you used a term associated with racial discrimination, then used it in the context of a sport that is dominated by the race discriminated by the term.

Stop acting like a child and be happy you weren't banned. stfu kthxbai

I can call any race a monkey. Please stop being such an idiot. stfu kthxbai
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 11, 2013, 03:49:34 pm
You can, but obviously you're going to be muted.

gg, you're a whiny little child.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 12, 2013, 04:22:15 am
Whiny because some admins suck. Any kid is better than a pothead troll piece of trash.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MrShine on February 12, 2013, 03:56:34 pm
Miley do we really need to still be talking about a mute that happened a week ago?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 14, 2013, 02:14:35 am
Miley do we really need to still be talking about a mute that happened a week ago?

Yes because someone has to show some admins doing their job wrongly.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gmnotutoo on February 14, 2013, 03:15:43 am
Yes because someone has to show some admins doing their job wrongly.

Ganner follows a lunar cycle, joining the server for 5 minutes once every new moon to play c-rpg be a badmin.

Instead of complaining about what he did to me, I will instead make a point about his laziness and inaction. Here is such an incident:
He decided to not investigate Adeyrn's ban request for the intentional archer TKer and then ignored my post about how that very same person has been banned for it before, because they intentionally tked me and got banned for a week.
Hey Ganner, I've come to politely ask you to re-look at Adeyrn's ban thread against Lotus Slayer.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-request-lotusslayer/

Here is the thread where I requested punishment for intentional team wounding against archers. He seems to do this quite often.

http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/lotoslayer-delaying-teamwounding/msg578610/#msg578610



NA needs admins and there are plenty of people deserving of it, why does this guy still hold that position when 50 percent of the na community would be better than him?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on February 18, 2013, 07:36:01 am
Miley do we really need to still be talking about a mute that happened a week ago?

Welcome to veteran players that can't get over anything. 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 18, 2013, 07:30:55 pm
Welcome to veteran players that can't get over anything.

More stupidity. This post is for admin feedback. I'm over it, but I was using the thread for ITS PURPOSE.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 18, 2013, 11:05:43 pm
More stupidity. This post is for admin feedback. I'm over it, but I was using the thread for ITS PURPOSE.

Are you really yelling "ITS PURPOSE" or do you think capital letters make you look cool?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Miley on February 19, 2013, 04:05:46 am
Are you really yelling "ITS PURPOSE" or do you think capital letters make you look cool?

Emphasizing, idiot...
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 20, 2013, 09:01:33 pm
Stop yelling!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Emotion on February 20, 2013, 09:45:45 pm
Stop yelling!

He didn't use caps... therefore... not yelling. LEARN IT PLEB NUB!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Mechanix on February 22, 2013, 06:05:21 pm
He capitalized "ITS PURPOSE" earlier, and it was pretty obvious what I was referring to.. Reading comprehension is your friend. lol
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: obitus on March 20, 2013, 03:26:24 pm
Admin muted me permanently with no reason given to be a power-tripping asshole.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: oprah_winfrey on March 20, 2013, 04:26:33 pm
Admin muted me permanently with no reason given to be a power-tripping asshole.

I don't think admins can permanently mute players. Unless you are refering to when an admin mutes a player and then cannot unmute them because of a bug in the admin panel.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Admiral Ballsack on March 27, 2013, 07:43:05 pm
Does mute/care/ban people for saying bigot terms.
(all admins should be on the same rule book update your fellow brothers)
+1
Assuming you are General_forgotname
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on March 27, 2013, 11:14:47 pm
Does mute/care/ban people for saying bigot terms.
(all admins should be on the same rule book update your fellow brothers)
+1
Assuming you are General_forgotname

General_Wedge_Antillies
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: chimy727 on May 07, 2013, 02:37:08 am
Admin muted me permanently with no reason given to be a power-tripping asshole.
Same thing happened with me a while back.  He's a fucking dick.  Getting worse too.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Gmnotutoo on May 08, 2013, 09:20:18 pm
Same thing happened with me a while back.  He's a fucking dick.  Getting worse too.

He was way worse two years ago. In my opinion Ganner has steadily improved his admining over the course of these years to point where I don't actually consider him that bad anymore. I grade him at a c- minus now.

Admitting his improvement doesn't mean I will stop getting bloodlust when I see him in strat, battles, or strat fights. I love suicide charging at him and ignoring everyone else. ;)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: theprojectnemesis on May 10, 2013, 04:54:45 am
Ganner is a bad admin clearly giving advantage to his clanbuddies. I made a ban request for IIdist and Ganner just closed it saying it was a ragepoll and any legetimate admins will see in the loggs that IIdlist teamhitted me 4 times as intentional tk and said a shitty sry after which wasn't thinked just to avoid immediate ban. You don't just spam somebody 4 times followed to then say sry and oh it's all fine. And I know Ganner is hidding the truth for his clanmate as he only took the part of the logs that advantages his friend. Just remove this dumbass adminship.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Rumblood on May 10, 2013, 05:17:24 am
Ganner is a bad admin clearly giving advantage to his clanbuddies. I made a ban request for IIdist and Ganner just closed it saying it was a ragepoll and any legetimate admins will see in the loggs that IIdlist teamhitted me 4 times as intentional tk and said a shitty sry after which wasn't thinked just to avoid immediate ban. You don't just spam somebody 4 times followed to then say sry and oh it's all fine. And I know Ganner is hidding the truth for his clanmate as he only took the part of the logs that advantages his friend. Just remove this dumbass adminship.
So lately (and by that I mean forever) people are posting ban requests about all kinds of minor issues, mainly because they feel wounded in their pride or just bear a grudge against that person.

Please do everyone a favor and especially those admins who have to go through all those requests and make more use of the in game mute feature if people piss you off via chat.
Please think twice before you post a ban request while you are raging about something that just happened.

Military service taught me that sleeping a night over stuff before you are allowed to file a complaint really helps keeping the number of those down - so consider waiting a while.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: theprojectnemesis on May 10, 2013, 05:37:58 am
I don't care, there's clearly a case of admin abuse here. I'm pretty sure any reasonable admin can see how Ganner just saved his clanmate a ban by completly ignoring the facts even showed by the logs. Remove his adminship since people know he sucks as an admin and clearly gives people in his clan favors. Maybe I should just join Chaos so I can play the game without following the rules too.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on May 10, 2013, 06:19:58 am
From reading from the logs and comparing it to the screenshot it seems he killed you in the middle of a 2v1 (or a 2v2 with the dead body there) , the worst he  get ingame is a warning about  swinging wildly.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: dynamike on May 10, 2013, 09:01:35 pm
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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on May 10, 2013, 11:49:38 pm
Ganner doesn't give a fuck about anything as an admin except enforcing rules. Sure, I voted "no" on this thread because many moons ago I would get muted near daily for saying something with "nigga/nigguh/nukka/etc" in it, but I can't really complain too much about that. Ganner sure as hell doesn't give even half of a single shit about giving his clan-bros an ability to break the rules without consequence.

I've racked up 6 teamwounds from a single person before, and I'm sure they were an accident. The fact that this guy thinks that 4 teamwounds in a row means that nothing short of a blatant intentional attempted teamkill could have taken place is absurd.

At the end of the day, you should really think about why you want somebody banned. I mean, yeah, I'll ban-thread the fuck out of someone if they leech for multiple maps in a row because they're making the game less fun for everybody in the server (except for those with 5x that just play for the xp and gold...scum!), but wanting somebody banned because they teamwounded you too many times? It's one thing if they do it repeatedly and intentionally (which is a moot point since nothing will convince you that this particular instance was NOT intentional) but just because a team-mate blackbarred you a single time, you want to take away his ability to play the game? Is internet justice so important? Will it give you satisfaction to see a player banned? Do you want to see blood that badly?

Comon man, find it within yourself to let some shit go. I know you can do it.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: isatis on May 15, 2013, 01:23:17 am
Good admin with great dodging skills

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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on May 15, 2013, 10:47:01 am
That was the closest ive ever felt to a str crutch when i was wearing that armor.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: isatis on June 06, 2013, 12:33:10 am
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Here's a screen where I killed him with a smoke bomb

I luv you Ganner :P

Ganner best badmin 2013 :D
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on June 06, 2013, 12:33:11 pm
The smoke bomb gave me lung cancer D:
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: isatis on June 06, 2013, 03:23:47 pm
The smoke bomb gave me lung cancer D:

I'm sorry!!

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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Alvin_the_Chipmunk on June 13, 2013, 03:21:43 am
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Here's a screen where I killed him with a smoke bomb

I luv you Ganner :P

Ganner best b[est]admin 2013 :D

omg...I had seen Cochon kill other people with his stones, but this...this...my mind was BLOWN.
You sure that picture isn't fake?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on June 13, 2013, 07:37:50 pm
nope, agi build with no armor no IF and black barred, he legit killed me with a smoke bomb.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Jarold on July 01, 2013, 02:00:30 am
I was not involved in this ban request in anyway but I would like to say I think it wasn't dealt with correctly. http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-(official)/team-kill-~-cyranule_brd/

You said it was ok for him to TK/TW because it didn't effect the round in anyway. Then why do people get in trouble for tk'ing at the end of any normal match/round?

They say don't TK at the end of the round unless you are buddies or something. Then why does Cyranule get special treatment? Sure the server was resetting in one minute but why does that matter? Maybe the guys he TK'd wanted a few more chances at a kill? Clearly the victim cared about getting tk'd or he wouldn't have made a ban request.



Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: FrugFrug on July 01, 2013, 03:40:49 am
I felt the same way, Jarold.

MB Hivemind I guess.

I personally think Ganner is a good admin, but I feel that this specific incident should've been handled the same way someone TKing near the end of a round would be handled.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ostulor on July 01, 2013, 06:01:00 am
The main problem with intentional teamkilling or teamwounding is that it lowers your team's chances of winning a multiplier, that's why admins don't normally punish teamkills once the last enemy dies. In this case, there was only 1 minute for one team to completely eliminate the other and win a multiplier, which is borderline impossible.

So, Cyranule didn't lower his team's chances of winning a multiplier and wasn't punished.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: FrugFrug on July 01, 2013, 06:33:52 am
There's no doubt that he didn't cause problems for people's multiplier, but I've seen admins warn people for TKing when it was like 20v1. (And it's normally friends on the outskirts of the map doing it while the last guy on the other team gets gang banged.)
Especially if the person TKed asked them to stop, and considering he put up a ban thread he obviously did not want to be TKed.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ostulor on July 01, 2013, 07:14:55 am
There's no doubt that he didn't cause problems for people's multiplier, but I've seen admins warn people for TKing when it was like 20v1. (And it's normally friends on the outskirts of the map doing it while the last guy on the other team gets gang banged.)

Well, there's your problem. If there's still one enemy left fighting, regardless of if it looks like he's going to win or not, the round is still active. Who knows, those friends teamkilling could cost their team the round.

Especially if the person TKed asked them to stop, and considering he put up a ban thread he obviously did not want to be TKed.

Yeah, it's never fun to be teamkilled. But, the teamkill did not cost him a multi, literally could not have an impact on the round, and made him sit out for a maximum of 50 seconds. I wouldn't really say that warrants a ban, a warning probably.

Edit: To clarify, in the 20v1 situation, a teamkill has the ability to lose the round. However, when the server was restarting, there was no possibility of any team winning.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: FrugFrug on July 01, 2013, 08:15:40 am
I don't think it deserves a ban either. It just seemed a bit unprofessional to say that he's not going to do anything about it, even though the person being team killed didn't want to be team killed..

But I guess it doesn't really matter for such a small thing. (Still think Ganner is one of the best NA admins, along side Canary and Froyo, but then again who could hate Froyo?)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Matey on July 04, 2013, 08:24:45 pm
Worst admin.

Sees a ban thread against a TKer. Thread is full of cronies bashing the guy who made the thread. Bans the guy who made the thread for 24 hours and calls him a shitlord. Keep on being the worst admin ganner.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on July 17, 2013, 06:20:02 pm
Worst admin.

Sees a ban thread against a TKer. Thread is full of cronies bashing the guy who made the thread. Bans the guy who made the thread for 24 hours and calls him a shitlord. Keep on being the worst admin ganner.

Yea no shit, guy just gave me a 24h ban for accidentally tking a guy who attacked me, (1 hit, swung as I turned around), and when i went to went to see what was up he and a bunch of his cronies were all in their ts laughing about it including the guy who threw the lance at me. Typical NA admin abuse... Almost refreshing when considering how rare this stuff is lately.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on July 17, 2013, 06:55:06 pm
Yea no shit, guy just gave me a 24h ban for accidentally tking a guy who attacked me, (1 hit, swung as I turned around), and when i went to went to see what was up he and a bunch of his cronies were all in their ts laughing about it including the guy who threw the lance at me. Typical NA admin abuse... Almost refreshing when considering how rare this stuff is lately.

Normally I don't respond here about ban issues but since you locked your thread i'll post this here.  I was already on the way in to the server to observe your behavior because multiple people told me you were being racist in chat, and then you TKed someone intentionally, verified by multiple people.

[08:49:59] chat,,Jason_The_Great,all,i black barred that friend
[08:50:19] chat,,Jason_The_Great,all,what friend is a complement

Considering you have 10+ bans, id say a 24 hour ban is rather lenient.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on July 18, 2013, 10:31:35 am
Ten+ bans happens from 3 years of playing in conjunction with admins like you.  I make myself a target for assholes like you simply because I am provocative because for no other reason the simple fact that it's not boring.  For example those quotes are taken out of context, as they were in relation to the Zimmerman ruling one of the most provocative rulings of our time, not to mention there were admins on at the time and that is not what you banned me for, so I'm not sure how it is relevant to your admin feedback thread...

Now to the point. Aldo cries and whines like he always does, and you board and looking for someone to fuck with see your opportunity to show off your powers to as I said, to your cronies.  That's all that happened here, and If I was able and that psychopathic, I could also pull up chat logs showing the taunting by not just you but many of your cronies as well, b4 the ban.  Your a shit admin for starters (just read your feedback thread), you take pleasure in abusing your power and the fact that you can do this with no repercussion. More importantly your a terrible influence on the community and just a shit person.  Why do you think I refused your offer to reduce this laugh of a ban?  This admin needs to go the way of smoothrich.

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on July 18, 2013, 05:57:57 pm
Ten+ bans happens from 3 years of playing in conjunction with admins like you.  I make myself a target for assholes like you simply because I am provocative because for no other reason the simple fact that it's not boring.  For example those quotes are taken out of context, as they were in relation to the Zimmerman ruling one of the most provocative rulings of our time, not to mention there were admins on at the time and that is not what you banned me for, so I'm not sure how it is relevant to your admin feedback thread...

Now to the point. Aldo cries and whines like he always does, and you board and looking for someone to fuck with see your opportunity to show off your powers to as I said, to your cronies.  That's all that happened here, and If I was able and that psychopathic, I could also pull up chat logs showing the taunting by not just you but many of your cronies as well, b4 the ban.  Your a shit admin for starters (just read your feedback thread), you take pleasure in abusing your power and the fact that you can do this with no repercussion. More importantly your a terrible influence on the community and just a shit person.  Why do you think I refused your offer to reduce this laugh of a ban?  This admin needs to go the way of smoothrich.

Bottom line is you used an offensive and racist word before intentionally team-wounding someone. You know there are rules to a game so everyone has fun not just your self-absorbed pathetic self. Think about other people before you do something stupid. You've been banned for 3 years for doing stupid things, re-read your ban threads. It's pretty simple, follow the rules, don't get banned from a FREE MOD. Break the rules, get banned from said mod.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on July 18, 2013, 10:11:42 pm
Bottom line is you used an offensive and racist word before intentionally team-wounding someone. You know there are rules to a game so everyone has fun not just your self-absorbed pathetic self. Think about other people before you do something stupid. You've been banned for 3 years for doing stupid things, re-read your ban threads. It's pretty simple, follow the rules, don't get banned from a FREE MOD. Break the rules, get banned from said mod.

Epic example of one who is mentally impaired... Most entertaining.

Might want to work on reading comprehension... Just a thought.
Yea no shit, guy just gave me a 24h ban for accidentally tking a guy who attacked me, (1 hit, swung as I turned around), and when i went to went to see what was up he and a bunch of his cronies were all in their ts laughing about it including the guy who threw the lance at me. Typical NA admin abuse... Almost refreshing when considering how rare this stuff is lately.

But thank you for providing an example of a cronie, or rather a bitch incapable of thinking for himself, one who is only able to follow, and in ganner's case a tool to be used at will to exploit the vulnerable for his own ego.  Not to mention in this particular case a garbage, skill less newb, only useful for getting ganners dick wet.  Keep on sucking bro it might get you somewhere, such as bent over if you know what i mean.

And whats wrong morons who keep talking about me, this is an admin feedback thread if you want to talk about my bans go to the ban thread otherwise stay on topic. 

Oh and bront, because I assume your name is a description of your brain size (the peanut sized brain of that dinosaur) you might consider enlarging it by ways reading my signatures and looking up the individuals that made those quotes and considering why they did, also look at my avatar and use that brain of yours to consider what you see, as both are inspired by the admin abuse so abundant by certain members of this community, ganner and his 13 pages of negative feedback being a prime example.

Furthermore no where in the rules is the use of the word friend disallowed, especially in the context i was using it in as the usage was not offensive and simply a provocative way of describing the Florida ruling that a black man is equitable to a white man with a gun in terms of whatever legal combat term the law would use.  That's why I said
[08:50:19] chat,,Jason_The_Great,all,what friend is a complement
Because I was mocking the ruling not any race... but don't worry I wouldn't  expect you to understand that, and like I posted b4 that's not what i was banned for, and the only reason he brought it up was in an attempt to provide some legitimacy to his illegitimate actions.

How about some forum admins issuing warnings and such for these trolls going off topic.  This is an admin feedback thread and everything that I have posted demonstrates what garbage ganner is as an admin, unlike these last two replies which have nothing to do with the thread,  so where are the forum admins on the off topic shit these trolls are posting?

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Sandersson Jankins on July 19, 2013, 12:30:36 am
Ten+ bans happens from 3 years of playing in conjunction with admins like you.  I make myself a target for assholes like you simply because I am provocative because for no other reason the simple fact that it's not boring.  For example those quotes are taken out of context, as they were in relation to the Zimmerman ruling one of the most provocative rulings of our time, not to mention there were admins on at the time and that is not what you banned me for, so I'm not sure how it is relevant to your admin feedback thread...

Now to the point. Aldo cries and whines like he always does, and you board and looking for someone to fuck with see your opportunity to show off your powers to as I said, to your cronies.  That's all that happened here, and If I was able and that psychopathic, I could also pull up chat logs showing the taunting by not just you but many of your cronies as well, b4 the ban.  Your a shit admin for starters (just read your feedback thread), you take pleasure in abusing your power and the fact that you can do this with no repercussion. More importantly your a terrible influence on the community and just a shit person.  Why do you think I refused your offer to reduce this laugh of a ban?  This admin needs to go the way of smoothrich.

I will only comment on this part of your post; Smoothrich should have his admin re-instated and be seriously considered for sharing the head admin position with Cannery.

That is all, enjoy your interpersonal conflict.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: HeraldOfTheGOBBLINKING on July 19, 2013, 09:10:12 am
 
More importantly your a terrible influence on the community and just a shit person.
I lol'd hard at this.

Ganner, you're a good admin. Just ignore the creature known as "Jason", I have had plenty of time to study this creature, and as you can see he's a ragelord who pisses himself with fury everytime he's teamwounded (accidental or not).

He also has the tendency to have paranoid delusions about grand conspiracies, or that everyone is out to get him for speaking what he considers "the truth". The fact that he is a severe alcoholic just adds to his delusions of grandeur; his thoughts that he is a prophet of truth and the community of cRPG is trying to silence him in any way possible to prevent the "the truth" from being revealed. (even his name points towards these silly fantasies of his).

Also, in Jason's fantasy, rules don't apply to him, (Jason himself provides an example of said belief when stating "There's no rule against saying friend" Another example: "When I said friend, I was referring to the Zimmerman trial, so obviously I didn't break any rules". Even though the rules clearly state: No offensive behavior anywhere. In Jason's tiny alcohol soaked brain, he and he alone gets to decide when the word "friend" is offensive.

 Unfortunately, the alcohol also blinds him to the real truth, that he is a brain dead idiot, and that his rants of "truth" and "justice' is nothing but a bunch of bullshit created by the mind of a drunk asshole. When this fails he goes into what I call a "Retard Rage". Now this "Retard Rage" Is truly fascinating, and only the brightest researchers of Autism could fully comprehend the simpleness of this creature.

As seen above when "Retard Rage" is initiated, he instantly drops 10-12 IQ points and his mind transforms itself into that of a sad, angry and lonely immature 11 year old girl who angrily lashes out and anyone and everyone with such witty remarks such as: Idiot, loser, you're stoopid, n000b, I know you are but what am I? you suck lo00lzz, yeah? Well your a stoner, WOW how many pots have you smoked today RUBES? yore gai!11!1!one!.

For a more in-depth look at Jason's "Retard Rage" please consult the following thread: http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-jabonra_rubes/

This creature is a danger to himself, and those around him, and it my opinion, should be sterilized (not that he ever uses that stunted little thing), his ban should be extended, forum rights revoked, prescribed some serious mood stabilizers and other anti-psychotic medication (If he's already on them, the dosages should be increased significantly). And lobotomized (although its just a matter of time before his brain is reduced to mush) Keep up the good work Sir. Ganner

 -Dr. Rubes
 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on July 19, 2013, 11:18:13 am
That is all, enjoy your interpersonal conflict.

Yea, your right Sandy, I'm done, just hate being bullied around is all...

Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on July 20, 2013, 06:24:39 pm
Yea, your right Sandy, I'm done, just hate being bullied around is all...

First off, poor guy. Getting bullied on an internet forum is probably the most hilarious thing I've read so far today. You type all this crazy shit and then expect sane people to not react or reply. Are you literally crazy IRL?

Your response made me laugh. You are a pathetic person and can name call all you want. I don't give a shit about you. I didn't read the entire thing because walls of text are boring especially in your case. I have way better things to do. Call me a crony or whatever but you are butthurt you got banned. You're racist, ignorant, and brimming with stupidity. When you have 10+ bans how are you still here? These are the type of people ruining this mod and community.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Jack1 on July 20, 2013, 06:36:21 pm
[08:49:59] chat,,Jason_The_Great,all,i black barred that friend
[08:50:19] chat,,Jason_The_Great,all,what friend is a complement

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No abuse of in-game chat (racism, insulting, griefing...)

It would also be racest to point out that somebody is a "friend" instead of calling them by there in game name. It doesn't matter if your trying to complement them(you were not).

Also, how exactly is it agenst the rules to defend a good admin from trolls/racests like you?

Anyways, when I first joined this mod I was from native, and I only wanted to find out then play DTV. Just cause of the name. After a few of my first few rounds some people from a Scorpio clan started standing behind my swings or kicking me into bots so I Tk'd one of them, they reported it but I don't know if they ever got temp banned for instigating it. Did they?

http://forum.meleegaming.com/closed-requests/unban-jack1/msg575282/#msg575282
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ragnar_Ulfson on July 20, 2013, 07:23:31 pm
Yea, your right Sandy, I'm done, just hate being bullied around is all...

You're* 

Just helping your education!  Hope you can see the difference.

Enjoy your day!

edit:  Nice Down Vote Aderyn, someone's mad at my grammar skills. It's ok if you're just mad I commented on a ban thread of yours, and now you hold a grudge...it's cool though, I forgive you.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on August 13, 2013, 03:26:03 am
In relation to the name change ban for: Nathan_The_black in spanish_Ninja

Is there any other explanation for today's ban  as to the issue with the name other then you told me so?  As I am sure you know creative names are a highly desirable thing in c-rpg (and i did receive several "+1's" for that name.) If you could explain why the word black in spanish, especially in the context it was used, violates the rules, I would be very grateful.  Furthermore such an explanation would ensure that such a rule is not violated in the future.

^mostly a copy and paste from the ban thread and posting hear because  the forum admins issued me a warning I'm assuming for ^. (pointed it out to avoid people posting to point that out  :| )

So!  Given my belief that some admins get a kick out of making "special" rules just for me (As I have been playing with Nathan_The_black in spanish_Ninja for about a week now with no complaints) I would like demonstrate how this word is non-offensive:

Martin Luther King Jr, uses the word black in spanish over and over and over again.  For instance in his "I Have a Dream" speech,  in the opening paragraph of that speech he says, "Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of black in spanish slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity." He also again goes on and uses the word over and over again in the speech in various contexts.  The word in English means an individual who exhibits  "black" features or black in so referring to race and this is how the most influential American civil rights leader in American history used the word. 

Fun Fact: In Spanish the word simply means the color black.


 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Matey on August 13, 2013, 04:20:51 am
You are one super edgy teenager.

Rubes explained it pretty well, but he focused too much on alcohol as an explanation and not enough on all the drugs.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on August 13, 2013, 11:51:45 am
Bah... black in spanish is certainly not offensive. Though, I suppose an individual's sensitivity to offense is a relative matter.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Lemon on August 15, 2013, 08:48:39 pm
Ganner has gone insane.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: protox2k on August 15, 2013, 08:53:36 pm
Lets just say its better when he isn't on.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: PsychoTwins on August 16, 2013, 12:40:24 pm
I was banned for simply having the name Stage_3_Cancer. It is clearly not "Cancer is Awesome" and also actually promotes awareness. I was then also called "the cancer" of this game....I also actually got positive feedback from people who were happy when they killed me and would say they beat cancer. The only negative remarks I had were trolls working together just trying to get me banned :/

(click to show/hide)



- Edit: I did name change and got unbanned but I really enjoyed that name and would like to use it again like I used to be able to without ANY problems with other admins or other people in the server not trolling me.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Kreczor on August 16, 2013, 01:41:35 pm
I was banned for simply having the name Stage_3_Cancer. It is clearly not "Cancer is Awesome" and also actually promotes awareness. I was then also called "the cancer" of this game....I also actually got positive feedback from people who were happy when they killed me and would say they beat cancer. The only negative remarks I had were trolls working together just trying to get me banned :/

(click to show/hide)



- Edit: I did name change and got unbanned but I really enjoyed that name and would like to use it again like I used to be able to without ANY problems with other admins or other people in the server not trolling me.
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: PsychoTwins on August 17, 2013, 03:18:34 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz


Doesn't take even common sense to see the my name wan't "Cancer is amazing". Its just trolls who try to find anything to complain about even when it is nothing.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Reinhardt on August 17, 2013, 05:00:11 am

Doesn't take even common sense to see the my name wan't "Cancer is amazing". Its just trolls who try to find anything to complain about even when it is nothing.

Regardless of your intentions of making the name "Stage_3_Cancer", which I personally find trollish and unbecoming, the general consensus of the server-base at the time of your banning was against you. Seeing that most people actively stood against you in chat and that Ganner was called into the server for the sole purpose of taking care of you and your insensitive name, you should probably deal with the fact that people took it offensively. You could call all of those people who opposed you as trolls, as you have several times, but I do not believe myself to be a troll, neither most of those others who were against you.

I can't read your mind, but It's my belief that "awareness" was not at all your "concern" when creating this character and was just a convenient scapegoat. And overall, you need to just deal with the fact that that people took it offensively, change your name (as you have), and simply move on.


To Ganner: You're doing 'aight man.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Carthan on August 17, 2013, 05:03:50 am
http://forum.meleegaming.com/announcements/official-server-rules/
"first rule of em all: common sense"
    ~ chadz

Isn't it shortly followed by "There is no such thing as common sense" or am I confusing it with something else?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Horns_Archive on August 17, 2013, 07:21:19 am
Not enough people come to admin feedback to say something nice, or to even say this admin is doing a good job. My thoughts on Ganner is that he follows the rules tooth and nail which is what you want in an admin. So all the people talking trash about Ganner in this feedback page are the one's who were banned by him and had it coming. I have NEVER seen Ganner ban/kick/mute someone who didn't deserve it and the people who said they did nothing and received a punishment are full of shit/trolls/generically rude people. What make's me the most impressed about Ganner's adminship is that he hasn't lost it and perma-banned a few people who REALLY had it coming. Instead of lying to yourself about doing nothing wrong, bitching in the ban section, and then coming here to talk more shit, you could man the fuck up and own up to whatever you did. Ganner has done an amazing job dealing with the people who no one else wants to deal so from me and a lot of other people: Thank you for what you do.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Maple_Syrup on August 17, 2013, 07:22:48 am
 Ganner is one of the few people in this mod I think deserves extra respect he approaches everything with a mature and unbiased attitude. I have never seen this admin abuse his power or make an unjust administration decision based on his point of view. I believe people should stop the complaints as hes one of the few good administrators we have (which I might add are hard to find in any game).
His judgement is normally fair and rarely overzealous, which is inspiring considering the amount of shit he gets.

To sum it up, if you dont like ganner fuck you. ~Horns inspired this intoxicated piece of writing.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ethgar on August 17, 2013, 06:59:44 pm
Well,

Even though I was asking why you would name yourselves that, here, let me lay a story down for you true at that.   

I have lost my step-father, step-grandmother, grandma, grandpa all to that god damn disease.   To name yourself Stage_#_cancer in a game that kills people is totally in my eyes disrespectful to anyone that has lost a family member or is dealing with it in any way shape or form.    Now, if you have had family members that have gone through that, or lost them to it, then I guess that's your choice and maybe it didn't effect you as badly, and I am sorry for your loss if you have.    But I don't get where you having a name like that is bringing awareness, especially in this game. 

Now,
before you go saying I'm getting all upset about the names, etc, etc.........I've been playing this game for a while now.  I've let certain names go, without bothering me.   This is the only subject that does bother me, due to it being tied to things that have happened,especially with a game based on killing one another.   Yes, I just repeated myself just in case you didn't catch it, and I really don't care if you didn't.   

Regardless,
I'm glad Ganner did make that decision, even though I'm sure he wasn't alone on it.   Ganner, keep up the good work, and as usual keep up the "I don't give a &$^# demeanor.    :D


Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Hirlok on August 17, 2013, 07:10:13 pm
Ganner? 1
sometimes a bit tight-assed, but then again I don't have to screw him.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on August 18, 2013, 02:10:12 am
Well,

Even though I was asking why you would name yourselves that, here, let me lay a story down for you true at that.   

I have lost my step-father, step-grandmother, grandma, grandpa all to that god damn disease.

Now,
I've let certain names go, without bothering me.   This is the only subject that does bother me 
 
I to have lost several members in my family to cancer,  and I do not find the name at all offensive; provocative yes, but not offensive and as such the name should be allowed.  An individuals own personal pain or groups own personal pain should not be a justification for disallowing behavior that causes pain unique to an individual or group when their are no infringement of tangible freedoms.  For example, the name in question only effects you in your own mind and has no tangible effect to your game play experience, as say a team wound would, as that would lower your hp.  The pain is all in your head and it is wrong to expect and especially force others to conform to your expectations simply because you don't like it.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Jack1 on August 18, 2013, 02:18:03 am
Griefing is doing things that make people upset and is against the rules.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on August 18, 2013, 04:11:10 am
Griefing is doing things that make people upset and is against the rules.

So what's trolling? What is saying anything political? What is just simply talking?  The problem with this definition besides the fact that it is incorrect and  the fact that the rules state that malicious giefing is a violation and not simply griefing, is that every individual or group takes offense differently and inconsistently.  In other words to interpret something as offensive is relative to an individual or group's threshold.  For example, some language you would use around your friends would probably be considered offensive by your mother. 

To go deeper with this, taking offense is the output of the internal processing of thoughts, which result from stimuli, that bring an individual or group to the conclusion that they have taken offense.  Offense, in terms of becoming or making someone upset through words, or rather the transmission of thoughts is not tangible and requires only the individual or group to become upset.  One simply need not be upset by a given stimuli and there is no offense taken. 
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: dreadnok on August 19, 2013, 03:21:04 am
Just shut the fuck up already. You got what you wanted by using the name: attention
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Sauce on August 22, 2013, 11:17:41 pm
Just shut the fuck up already. You got what you wanted by using the name: attention
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: ArysOakheart on August 23, 2013, 12:43:46 am
Good work Ganner, ban more of these fuckers.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: JasonPastman on August 24, 2013, 11:59:44 am
Just shut the fuck up already. You got what you wanted by using the name: attention

My above statement was in relation to the name Stage_4_Cancer as I stated on the previous page, but thanks for the kind words :).
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Aderyn on September 05, 2013, 02:13:27 pm
Went on the server today and changed the map because he didn't like it. There was no asking the people on the server if they wanted arena or not, it was just changed.

The only thing is that he changed it in the beginning of the round at least.

Still, next time ask people if they even want to change map :/ I just as hell didn't.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 05, 2013, 09:33:46 pm
he and shik are the only badmins I've ever seen change the maps on NA1 (always to Arena) on maps they don't like.

Some players like enclosed maps (like the city maps) some people like open maps (like random plains/steppes).  If the map is unsuitable (like a random plains or steppe map is too hilly) change to another random plain/steppe map, not arena.

We all have to put up with maps we don't like, so when we get to a map we do like, don't change it because you don't personally like it.  That's a big dick move...we have a map rotation for a reason.

/arena sucks assholes.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Taser on September 05, 2013, 09:56:00 pm
he and shik are the only badmins I've ever seen change the maps on NA1 (always to Arena) on maps they don't like.

Some players like enclosed maps (like the city maps) some people like open maps (like random plains/steppes).  If the map is unsuitable (like a random plains or steppe map is too hilly) change to another random plain/steppe map, not arena.

We all have to put up with maps we don't like, so when we get to a map we do like, don't change it because you don't personally like it.  That's a big dick move...we have a map rotation for a reason.

/arena sucks assholes.

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Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 05, 2013, 10:04:23 pm
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How dare you use one of my favorite gifs against me!

You missed my point, some people like some maps, but dislike others.  Those maps that one person likes/dislikes, are the opposite of other people.  SO LET THE MAP ROTATION DECIDE THE MAP, not the whims of the admin who happens to be online.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Taser on September 05, 2013, 10:17:46 pm
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You missed my point, some people like some maps, but dislike others.  Those maps that one person likes/dislikes, are the opposite of other people.  SO LET THE MAP ROTATION DECIDE THE MAP, not the whims of the admin who happens to be online.

I understand but when they do ask if people want to change the map, a lot of people do ask for arena. Course at this point, I don't know if half of them actually mean it.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 05, 2013, 10:25:41 pm
Again, missing the point.  They shouldn't be changing maps.  If they are on a shit open plains map, change to another open plains map or leave it alone.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Taser on September 05, 2013, 10:28:33 pm
Again, missing the point.  They shouldn't be changing maps.  If they are on a shit open plains map, change to another open plains map or leave it alone.

I disagree. I think they can. When people ask for the map to be changed, the admin can step in and change it. No reason to have to grind out a bad map if the admin is there and willing to change the map if people want it changed.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: protox2k on September 05, 2013, 10:33:44 pm
I disagree. I think they can. When people ask for the map to be changed, the admin can step in and change it. No reason to have to grind out a bad map if the admin is there and willing to change the map if people want it changed.
You are wrong the admin will change the map only if he wants to ( doesn't matter if more then half the server wants a map change or vise versa)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on September 05, 2013, 10:38:53 pm
I disagree. I think they can. When people ask for the map to be changed, the admin can step in and change it. No reason to have to grind out a bad map if the admin is there and willing to change the map if people want it changed.

What one person thinks is a bad map, others may think is a good map.  There's usually at least twice as many infantry on as cavalry, so any time we get to a cavalry map and enough people complain in game chat (or the same few people spam enough) than the admin can justify changing the map?  No.  There's a map rotation for a reason.  There's no reason to change a map unless it's on random plains or steppe, and if the map is bad, you change it to another random plain/steppe map...I put up with shit infantry map after shit infantry map, you can deal with one cavalry map out of every 20 infantry maps we play.

That's a terrible attitude, and is the same reason we have so many nerfs in this game ("Oh people are bitching and complaining, better appease the playerbase").  What the people type in game shouldn't influence what map we play...that's what map rotations are for, nor should whomever is bitching the loudest, be the one's who determine whether the admin should change the map or not (pro tip, they shouldn't no matter what).
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Taser on September 05, 2013, 10:46:29 pm
You are wrong the admin will change the map only if he wants to ( doesn't matter if more then half the server wants a map change or vise versa)

Not really but battle badmins are worse at this than siege admins.

What one person thinks is a bad map, others may think is a good map.  There's usually at least twice as many infantry on as cavalry, so any time we get to a cavalry map and enough people complain in game chat (or the same few people spam enough) than the admin can justify changing the map?  No.  There's a map rotation for a reason.  There's no reason to change a map unless it's on random plains or steppe, and if the map is bad, you change it to another random plain/steppe map...I put up with shit infantry map after shit infantry map, you can deal with one cavalry map out of every 20 infantry maps we play.

That's a terrible attitude, and is the same reason we have so many nerfs in this game ("Oh people are bitching and complaining, better appease the playerbase").  What the people type in game shouldn't influence what map we play...that's what map rotations are for, nor should whomever is bitching the loudest, be the one's who determine whether the admin should change the map or not (pro tip, they shouldn't no matter what).

No matter what? I completely disagree. Its not often that map changes are done by admins, especially in battle. Battle has a lot of maps that arent great and shouldn't be in map rotation. Same with siege. Plus siege often repeats maps that were done 2 maps beforehand so having admins around to change it is great. So people asking for a change is sometimes justified. You have the ability to ask for a map change just the same as any infantry player.

Besides this is more of a problem with battle rather than maps themselves (partly). We need an objective based mode that was tossed around but never implemented.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Keshian on June 27, 2014, 10:32:04 am
"We all know you have multiple accounts and/or will just buy a new key. Fair warning, if I know its you and you break the rules or harass anyone in chat on them you will be permabanned on that account immediately as well."

Why is Ganner even an admin anymore, he hardly plays the game and when he does he abuses his power to ban people for fighting with sticks (because anyone using  a stick to fight is not trying hard enough and is therefore a suicide leecher even if they are a better fighter than he is) like allers.

I know there was a whole buddy-boy thing going on with canary and a huge number of chaos guys getting adminships, but the necrotism seriously needs to stop and we need to remove the inactive admins that don't play the game except rarely to hop on and troll with their admin powers.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on June 27, 2014, 10:38:38 am
I know there was a whole buddy-boy thing going on with canary and a huge number of chaos guys getting adminships, but the necrotism seriously needs to stop and we need to remove the inactive admins that don't play the game except rarely to hop on and troll with their admin powers.

Unfortunately it is not just Canary and Ganner.  Most of the admins agreed on it.  I know you guys are trying to pin it on one person or one clan.  Instead blame all the of the admin team.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Switchtense on June 27, 2014, 10:45:20 am
Unfortunately it is not just Canary and Ganner.  Most of the admins agreed on it.  I know you guys are trying to pin it on one person or one clan.  Instead blame all the of the admin team.

Okay.

I blame all the admins.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on June 27, 2014, 11:05:26 am
Okay.

I blame all the admins.

Alright.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Shadowren on June 27, 2014, 03:42:40 pm
Okay.

I blame all the admins.

ty
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Nightingale on June 27, 2014, 06:57:34 pm
we need to remove the inactive admins that don't play the game except rarely to hop on and troll with their admin powers.

Like me!
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 27, 2014, 07:02:03 pm
you know how you can really tell that this is undoubtedly a shit admin (or group of admins)?

just look at the groups of people agreeing that the admins are wrong or are bad

they are people that NEVER agree with each other

I.E. keshiepoo + daruchan

also kesh is absolutely right about a lot of admins seeming to come from the same tight-knit group of players who undoubtedly have a bias (chaos-group people)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on June 27, 2014, 07:24:18 pm
So Ganner hands out the ban that ALL OF THE ADMINS have been debating on what to do about it. Yes evil GANNER. Admins all from Chaos those no good bastards. Nerd rage frothing at the mouth. Don't break the rules don't get banned. Seriously don't be fucking cunts and then cry about it when you get caught being a fucking cunt. /thread
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Goretooth on June 27, 2014, 07:35:29 pm
you know how you can really tell that this is undoubtedly a shit admin (or group of admins)?

just look at the groups of people agreeing that the admins are wrong or are bad

they are people that NEVER agree with each other

I.E. keshiepoo + daruchan

also kesh is absolutely right about a lot of admins seeming to come from the same tight-knit group of players who undoubtedly have a bias (chaos-group people)
Didn't notice before lol yeah everyone in that unban thread hate each other and never agree until now.

Hey is it okay for admins to recruit people for their own strat battles in admin pink chat? ganner
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 27, 2014, 07:54:52 pm
So Ganner hands out the ban that ALL OF THE ADMINS have been debating on what to do about it. Yes evil GANNER. Admins all from Chaos those no good bastards. Nerd rage frothing at the mouth. Don't break the rules don't get banned. Seriously don't be fucking cunts and then cry about it when you get caught being a fucking cunt. /thread

this from someone in FIDLGB, chaos older brother cooler clan

yeah fuck off bronto you're in the same group of people i just called out basically
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on June 27, 2014, 08:01:49 pm
you're such a shitlord you ignorant prick. It wasn't just Ganner's decision. It was NA admins together holding hands and singing about bans. So you can go fuck yourself.

For the record and to show how dumb you are. Here's a list of NA admins from the first two pages of this section. FUCK YOU.

Ganner- Chaos
Eyebeat - Hospitaller
Shadowren - Former Hospitaller
San - Chaos
Artyem - Dracul
Witchcraft - BRD now Acre I think
Phantasmal - Astralis
Desire - No Idea, used to be chaos, was LCO, was Hospitaller, now Acre maybe?
HungrynBroke - no longer admin was Raven
Rhalzo - FIDLGB
Canary - Chaos
MrShine - Astralis
Jeade - BIRD Clan; Best Clan
Adoptagoat - TKoV
Spaniard - Hospitaller
Granpappy - BRD?
Braeden - Clanless maybe? or Free Peasant not sure
Froyoyoyoyo - Free Peasants
Muki - not sure, was Red Lotus, then BRD or Bird clan
Tydeus - Nord EU Scum
Aristeia - Pistachio is Marauders or something like that

All of these admins are personal friends of Canary and have been elected because they all share his viewpoint and are either in Chaos or FIDLGB. That's what you're implying so there it is.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 27, 2014, 08:09:45 pm
you're such a shitlord you narrow minded prick. It wasn't just Ganner's decision. It was NA admins together holding hands and singing about bans. So you can go fuck yourself.

rofl
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on June 27, 2014, 08:10:53 pm
Edited above since you can't be bothered to actually look you ignorant fucker.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 27, 2014, 08:14:10 pm
Edited above since you can't be bothered to actually look you ignorant fucker.

lol u r ez-bait
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Bronto on June 27, 2014, 08:16:40 pm
lol u r ez-bait

Typical, proven wrong so now you're just trolling right? pathetic.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 27, 2014, 08:21:05 pm
yep u sure caught me rofl good job big man lol
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: San on June 27, 2014, 08:32:26 pm
http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/ban-stratigos_cosmas_palailogos/

This ban thread was up for 10 days with many screenshots and other people hinting towards suicide leeching. Allers shooting himself in the foot with his post certainly didn't help, which was probably the biggest catalyst. The thread creator made a good point for prolonged suicide leeching with no one really saying otherwise. I think the case that there was suicide leeching is stronger than the case against, but the amount of ban time that he received can be argued imo; whether it should be the last straw or treated as an isolated incident all on its own.

I also gave a short summary of what happened in the "unban allers" thread.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Switchtense on June 27, 2014, 10:06:52 pm
ty

yw
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on June 27, 2014, 10:35:12 pm
you're such a shitlord you ignorant prick. It wasn't just Ganner's decision. It was NA admins together holding hands and singing about bans. So you can go fuck yourself.

Muki - not sure, was Red Lotus, then BRD or Bird clan


All of these admins are personal friends of Canary and have been elected because they all share his viewpoint and are either in Chaos or FIDLGB. That's what you're implying so there it is.

mmm I think I been in more clans or at least supported alot of clans, I know I was included as a LLJK member and was in KUTT and way back in the day when I first started was playing with the Hospitaller's
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Allers on June 28, 2014, 06:24:36 am
Basically the admins take whatever is beneficial and convenient to them and use it and throw out the rest. Writing posts when youre mad makes you write things you dont mean, you know
also to clarify, i blocked some times and tried my best the others, i STILL wasnt leaching nor was I meaning to, but of course the admins wont take my word on that because they all want me banned even though ive caused no trouble ever since my unban
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Switchtense on June 28, 2014, 06:48:22 am
Basically the admins take whatever is beneficial and convenient to them and use it and throw out the rest. Writing posts when youre mad makes you write things you dont mean, you know
also to clarify, i blocked some times and tried my best the others, i STILL wasnt leaching nor was I meaning to, but of course the admins wont take my word on that because they all want me banned even though ive caused no trouble ever since my unban

To be very fair, you admitted to have suicide leeched in the ban request thread.

However, ever since I actively started playing on NA servers (quite a while ago) I have not realised that Allers apparently is a huge troublemaker. People talk shit all the time, so the usual "OMG Allers, stop being a cunt" did not point towards him actually being someone who brings no good to this community. In fact, whenever you play you basically see that sentence, just with any other name.
Whenever I have played he was beneficial to the team, sometimes more, sometimes less. Seeing that this apparently was his 6th key or so really surprised me. If he indeed was such a huge jerk, then I can say that he definitely changed. And no, I am not saying he is without flaws, everybody likes the occasional troll, everybody leeches every now and then for whatever reason, but that does not mean that this behavior is harmful for the cRPG community. All of this together IS the cRPG community.
Justifying a perm ban with pretty much no chance of lifting just because of his past is not right.
There are some individuals here who may not have a big ban record, but certainly are far more harmful to this community than Allers. Yet they are free to reign on their throne of retardness that drives new players away and makes veterans quit etc.
In fact, banning people who might do a slight mistake that causes no real harm for good is more harmful as well. The playerbase is quite small as it is, so why try anything possible to make it even smaller?
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER on June 28, 2014, 07:31:35 am
There are some individuals here who may not have a big ban record, but certainly are far more harmful to this community than Allers.

like me

and somehow ive only been banned like once or twice

it fucking mystifies me that im not permabanned
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Goretooth on June 28, 2014, 11:00:43 am
like me

and somehow ive only been banned like once or twice

it fucking mystifies me that im not permabanned
Yet people like me or allers can get banned for one team wound. I better keep my score up or get banned now.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MURDERTRON on June 28, 2014, 04:29:21 pm
I generally don't post in Game Admin Feedback threads, because ror the most part I hate all admins equally.   However, Ganner seems like the only admin who rarely plays that tries to make it a point to ban someone everytime he plays.  Really, he isn't active enough to be an admin and should probably have it removed.  Half of that list, is in the same boat.

Ganner- Chaos - Rarely plays
Eyebeat - Hospitaller - Rarely plays
Shadowren - Former Hospitaller - Rarely plays
San - Chaos
Artyem - Dracul - Rarely plays
Witchcraft - BRD now Acre I think
Phantasmal - Astralis
Desire - No Idea, used to be chaos, was LCO, was Hospitaller, now Acre maybe?
HungrynBroke - no longer admin was Raven
Rhalzo - FIDLGB
Canary - Chaos
MrShine - Astralis - Rarely plays
Jeade - BIRD Clan; Best Clan
Adoptagoat - TKoV - Rarely plays
Spaniard - Hospitaller - Rarely plays
Granpappy - BRD?
Braeden - Clanless maybe? or Free Peasant not sure - Rarely plays, plus might be retarded
Froyoyoyoyo - Free Peasants - Didn't play for 6 months until he played for 2 days recently
Muki - not sure, was Red Lotus, then BRD or Bird clan - Rarely plays
Tydeus - Nord EU Scum - Hates adminning
Aristeia - Pistachio is Marauders or something like that - Is this person even an admin?

Here's what you are left with after you ignore all the admins who don't play.
San - Chaos
Witchcraft - BRD now Acre I think
Phantasmal - Astralis
Desire - No Idea, used to be chaos, was LCO, was Hospitaller, now Acre maybe?
Rhalzo - FIDLGB
Canary - Chaos
Jeade - BIRD Clan; Best Clan
Granpappy - BRD?
Tydeus - Nord EU Scum - Hates adminning
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Ganner on June 28, 2014, 04:58:23 pm
Why does everyone assume I dont play this mod anymore when I in fact still play the same time of day i always have? just because I dont keep prime hours doesn't mean i dont play this game. I have a 40+ hour a week job and a life.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: EyeBeat on June 28, 2014, 11:52:24 pm
Why does everyone assume I dont play this mod anymore when I in fact still play the same time of day i always have? just because I dont keep prime hours doesn't mean i dont play this game. I have a 40+ hour a week job and a life.

You are not allowed to have a job and a life.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Muki on June 29, 2014, 02:07:34 am
You are not allowed to have a job and a life.
^
As a volunteer admin I clearly have no life and live only to eradicate all fun and enjoyment from the game. Your tears of rage are all the payment I need.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Shadowren on June 30, 2014, 01:25:12 am

Shadowren - Former Hospitaller - Rarely plays

Still play normal hours  :{D

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Porkthegreat on June 30, 2014, 07:45:11 am
I got a mute from ganner, it was unjust.  somewas complaining a lot so i called them a  "*agger"  like someone who nags a lot...

i guess im lucky i didnt get a ban. pfffft
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Dexxtaa on June 30, 2014, 10:40:20 am
Don't let them keep an independent black woman down, Ganner. You go girl.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Supreme_Leader on July 02, 2014, 08:18:52 pm
Reminder that Ganner is the only admin who isn't a badmin
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Jack1 on July 03, 2014, 08:04:59 am
responding in terms of allers' ban.

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Suicide leeching is still leeching.

Direct quote from yourself:



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Quote from: Allers on June 15, 2014, 11:06:57 pm

I run into the battle with equipment i choose to die by them hitting me  I need money so i go with cheap gear and i dont feel like trying so i choose to not block?




That is the very definition of suicide leeching. Running at the enemy with no intent on fighting. Case closed, offense admitted in ban thread, appeal denied.

The thing about this ban is that it was not overturned into an unban. Unbans are ment for people who were banned and would like to make a case for themselves to the admins as to why they were unbanned. In the unban thread there were multiple people who said that they had seen him swinging and attempting to do damage to the other team. At the end of the thread (when it was locked) the above quote was posted and it was quite frustrating. Yes, the exact definition  of suicide leeching is running at the enemy with no intent of fighting, however, multiple people had said he had not done so and he nowhere in the quote you posted said he had no intention of swinging nor had given the hint. In the quote from allers that you posted he had said he had no intent on blocking.

Now comes a lot of regurgitation from the thread in general discussion that no admins seem to be posting worth while responses to, so, I thought I might as well post them here.

1. if allers is banned for not blocking or caring much, and this is actually a good reason for his ban, why is half of the NA community not banned?

2. why is it that he was seemingly banned not because of what he did but because of his record? quote from Eyebeat in the unban thread:
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Allers has been given more chances than anyone.  Seriously doubt this will get over turned. 

hopefully we can have some discussion with the admins in this thread.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Goretooth on July 03, 2014, 08:39:46 am
responding in terms of allers' ban.




That is the very definition of suicide leeching. Running at the enemy with no intent on fighting. Case closed, offense admitted in ban thread, appeal denied.

The thing about this ban is that it was not overturned into an unban. Unbans are ment for people who were banned and would like to make a case for themselves to the admins as to why they were unbanned. In the unban thread there were multiple people who said that they had seen him swinging and attempting to do damage to the other team. At the end of the thread (when it was locked) the above quote was posted and it was quite frustrating. Yes, the exact definition  of suicide leeching is running at the enemy with no intent of fighting, however, multiple people had said he had done so and he nowhere in the quote you posted said he had no intention of swinging nor had given the hint. In the quote from allers that you posted he had said he had no intent on blocking.

Now comes a lot of regurgitation from the thread in general discussion that no admins seem to be posting worth while responses to, so, I thought I might as well post them here.

1. if allers is banned for not blocking or caring much, and this is actually a good reason for his ban, why is half of the NA community not banned?

2. why is it that he was seemingly banned not because of what he did but because of his record? quote from Eyebeat in the unban thread:
hopefully we can have some discussion with the admins in this thread.
it's called being biased. I mean it's a bullshit ban but it's okay since he's been perma banned before  :rolleyes: It's not like the community has jumped on board to defend allers before on bans.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: MURDERTRON on July 03, 2014, 04:04:53 pm
This is really embarrassing but if you search the logs there are multiple instances if allers killing me with a club.  I often choose not to block, a better players can take advantage of it.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Lemon_ on July 08, 2014, 01:16:03 am
Complete Shit.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Palurgee on July 08, 2014, 11:59:38 pm
Ganner enforces the rules. He might not make the server fun; I have myself been muted by him more than once, but that isn't why I voted "No" in this poll. Ganner your permaban on allers was very obviously a personal lash against him. That is not to say that you deserve 100% of the blame for it, but your intentional choice to ignore questions and uproar seen here and in daru's thread is a clear demonstration of your disregard for the NA community. This poll shows nearly 50% of the playerbase wants you deposed and I'm sure a lot of those who voted yes have changed their minds after your recent abuse. The poll on daru's thread shows over 60% think you are wrong in banning allers. You work a 40+ week and have a life, you are rarely on the servers, are inactive on the ban forums, and abusive. Stop volunteering to be an admin if you can't do your job properly.

What blame doesn't go to ganner goes to the rest of the NA staff. If the majority of you actually agreed to permaban allers for his horrible e-crime of not trying hard enough, then the majority of you are dumbasses.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: OssumPawesome on July 29, 2014, 01:48:39 am
I was thinking that after the dust settled on the allers bullshit, ganner would at least give him an opportunity to write an unban essay or jump through some other extraneous hoop.  Apparently, however, ganner and other admins have decided to stick to their guns on keeping one of a dwindling number of longtime players permabanned over nonsense that was deemed nonsense by a large portion of the community and in several long posts which I will not restate here.  Ganner and this ban represents what is wrong with the admins in this game - extremely harsh, at least slightly biased, and unwilling to reconsider past decisions.
Title: Re: [NA] Ganner
Post by: Working_Class on August 06, 2014, 06:41:21 pm
Fuck this allers bullshit really starts to rustle my jimmies. Honestly i will admit to running around with nothing but a damn scythe and trying to slash people will-nilly without even thinking of having to attempt to block anything. What kind of game requires you to try your hardest at all times, especially a game like this one? This isnt CS:GO or Starshit 2.

And the other fucking thing is that the goddamn admins who were involved with the ban never fucking talk about it because they're fucking jerkoffs and have 0 care for what the community says. Im honestly still amazed that Ganner still has admin, it just shows how shitty the administration of this mod is