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Do you think U.S. & Russian tension over Syria could escalate into military conflict between our two nations?

I think it is likely that current events could escalate into a conflict between USA and Russia.
7 (13.7%)
I think it is unlikely, but possible, that current events could escalate into a conflict between USA and Russia.
12 (23.5%)
I think Russia is in the wrong, if conflict does break out, it is their fault.
3 (5.9%)
I think USA is in the wrong, if conflict does break out, it is their fault.
11 (21.6%)
I don't even think it's worth worrying about, Superpowers will do what thou wilt. Who cares?
9 (17.6%)
I'm from Canada, haha! suck it nerds! The maple syrup must flow! He who controls the maple syrup, controls the universe!
3 (5.9%)
I'm from another country and we got our own problems... like bronchitus, aint nobody got time phodat!
6 (11.8%)

Total Members Voted: 49

Voting closed: November 19, 2015, 05:34:58 am

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2015, 03:20:18 pm »
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During the space race, NASA spent huge amounts of money developing a new type of pen that could function in zero gravity, as the ink would otherwise not flow and the pen would be useless. This was to allow their astronauts to write and take notes reliably in space. American ingenuity at its very best.

The Russians used pencils. Because pencils are cheap and still work in space.
NASA aswell as Pentagon has from the get go been funneling tax dollars from the public into the private sector.

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2015, 04:03:49 pm »
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As long as Obamas in Office I doubt w will go to war, because he is a huge puss and syria already crossed his "red line" l0l, however the CIA are more or less independent and do whatever they want and will probably keep feeding syrian fighters or whatever theyve been doing even though its literally never worked before and has only ever cause problems
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #32 on: October 20, 2015, 04:32:54 pm »
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During the space race, NASA spent huge amounts of money developing a new type of pen that could function in zero gravity, as the ink would otherwise not flow and the pen would be useless. This was to allow their astronauts to write and take notes reliably in space. American ingenuity at its very best.

The Russians used pencils. Because pencils are cheap and still work in space.

About that, the problem with pencils is that they leave graphite behind and at low gravity this goes into all kinds of critical machinery in the craft, not to mention eyes. Pencils are also flammable and that is a major hazard in space cabins. In any case, both space programs started with pencils then used space pens which they bought from Fisher only a few dollars per unit.

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #33 on: October 20, 2015, 04:33:49 pm »
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About that, the problem with pencils is that they leave graphite behind and at low gravity this goes into all kinds of critical machinery in the craft, not to mention eyes. Pencils are also flammable and that is a major hazard in space cabins. In any case, both space programs started with pencils then used space pens which they bought from Fisher only a few dollars per unit.

Ah, a voice of reason.

Pencils break easily.
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #34 on: October 20, 2015, 04:53:17 pm »
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About that, the problem with pencils is that they leave graphite behind and at low gravity this goes into all kinds of critical machinery in the craft, not to mention eyes. Pencils are also flammable and that is a major hazard in space cabins. In any case, both space programs started with pencils then used space pens which they bought from Fisher only a few dollars per unit.
on the ISS powerful ventilation (so CO2 does not accumulate around astronaut), so sure all the fine graphite particles will instantly sucked and filtered
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #35 on: October 20, 2015, 05:10:43 pm »
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Because there were space stations like the ISS in 1965 when the zero-G pen was patented

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #36 on: October 20, 2015, 08:52:57 pm »
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Because there were space stations like the ISS in 1965 when the zero-G pen was patented
Less vodvka pls
pretty sure C02 behaved in 1965 just same as modern )) and methods of dealing with them in a confined space similar )

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Pen
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2015, 09:20:39 pm »
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During the space race, NASA spent huge amounts of money developing a new type of pen that could function in zero gravity, as the ink would otherwise not flow and the pen would be useless. This was to allow their astronauts to write and take notes reliably in space. American ingenuity at its very best.

The Russians used pencils. Because pencils are cheap and still work in space.
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2015, 09:35:08 pm »
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The Syrian proxy war, has been a conflict by proxy prior to and since its outbreak. A proxy war fought by various vested regional and international interests for a spectrum of reasons both political, economic and sectarian.

Just because during the early stages of the conflict swathes of mainly Sunni Syrian troops were either bought off or found themselves ideologically compatible with the Salafist Wahhabi ideology being peddled by some of the regional sponsors of the conflict does not make it a civil war. Many if not most of the fighters the SAA and their allies face today are foreign fighters driven by money and/or ideology and self interest.

If the so called "moderate" opposition came out on top in Syria, stability is still far from sight and even if attained would only deliver the Syrian peoples with a Saudi-Arabia 2. If IS ever came out on top, we'd see Saudi-Arabia on steroids. Under Assad for all his faults, a melting pot of ethnicities, religions and cultures were able to co-exist in a relatively peaceful environment. We would not see the same if either the "moderate" opposition or IS were to come out on top. Look at Saudi-Arabia today, do you see the Saudi's respecting peoples ethnic, religious and cultural freedoms? Of course not. It's their way or no way and that is the worst outcome for Syria and its people.
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2015, 11:19:40 pm »
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with the money that the US spends on the democratization of the shitholes around the world, they could build one paradise country on the moon every year. For all who want leave dat shitholes. The problem is that the happy inhabitants of the moon will not bring them profit (for the military industry) and oil.

Yes we need to profit off of the oil we buy steal from all these poor middle-eastern countries or their our economy would surely collapse! 

 There are plenty of reliable countries with large stockpiles of oil all over the world, Russia included. If they don't sell their oil what do they get? They don't have to sell their oil and they don't have to buy foreign weapons. They also don't have to kill each other over ethnic and religious differences but they still do.

  If oil is replaced with a more efficient energy source do you think all these middle-eastern problems will magically disappear?
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2015, 12:27:40 am »
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If oil is replaced with a more efficient energy source do you think all these middle-eastern problems will magically disappear?

Yes. I mean, "magically" is probably an optimistic way to put it though.

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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2015, 01:01:41 am »
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Yes we need to profit off of the oil we buy steal from all these poor middle-eastern countries or their our economy would surely collapse! 

 There are plenty of reliable countries with large stockpiles of oil all over the world, Russia included. If they don't sell their oil what do they get? They don't have to sell their oil and they don't have to buy foreign weapons. They also don't have to kill each other over ethnic and religious differences but they still do.

  If oil is replaced with a more efficient energy source do you think all these middle-eastern problems will magically disappear?
just stop claim what usa or any another country here for fix ppls problems and not for heir own goals
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2015, 01:19:27 am »
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A taste of the moderate opposition.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=78c_1445376835
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2015, 01:33:55 am »
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A taste of the moderate opposition.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=78c_1445376835

No those guys are not moderate lol.  The US has been bombing them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2015/08/28/u-s-drone-strikes-batter-jabhat-al-nusra-encouraging-moderates/

That crappy Russian propaganda video is referring to the US condemning Russian bombings in that area. There are Syrians there fighting those Al-Nursa terrorists and Russia doesn't distinguish regular Syrians from terrorist groups and bombed the area indiscriminately.
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Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2015, 02:08:41 am »
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A taste of the moderate opposition.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=78c_1445376835
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