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Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« on: November 20, 2014, 11:21:32 pm »
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A couple of questions, that i didn't really figure out by myself:
  • Planning on getting a GTX 980 - but there's a whole bunch of variants for this, with greatly varying prices. Which one would be best? Was reading reviews about Zotac AMP!, some say it's awesome, other's say it's meh.
  • Going for DDR3 memory, since DDR4 (together with a mobo and CPU to support it) seems way of an overkill. Going for 8GB initially, might upgrade later - is it worth it to go above 1866Mhz memory?

Might have more questions later. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 11:43:55 pm »
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Pay attention to the CAS latency of your RAM sticks. Freq isn't everything.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 11:54:43 pm »
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A couple of questions, that i didn't really figure out by myself:
  • Planning on getting a GTX 980 - but there's a whole bunch of variants for this, with greatly varying prices. Which one would be best? Was reading reviews about Zotac AMP!, some say it's awesome, other's say it's meh.
  • Going for DDR3 memory, since DDR4 (together with a mobo and CPU to support it) seems way of an overkill. Going for 8GB initially, might upgrade later - is it worth it to go above 1866Mhz memory?

Might have more questions later. Thanks in advance.

1) Add 100 euros to GPU budget and get 970 SLI. Get the models that have good VRAM cooling and no coil whine.
2) Not unless you'll go for heavy OC. Intel CPUs won't benefit from RAM faster than 1600.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2014, 12:07:41 am »
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While you people are at it:

Get me a mainboard, a cpu, a cooler and RAM with a nice prize/performance ratio for €500.
Not gonna by now but I wanna check prizes now, close to Xmas and when I prolly gonna buy mid January. Out of interest how prizes move around Xmas...

I am thinking like 100€ for the board, a i5-4690K for 200€ and some 8GB ram kit... no fancy water cooling, just a nice silent cooler for "something"...

I appreciate the help :wink:

Edit: Came across this just now and it seems that even the smallest i7 performs better :o
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/32452-intel-core-i5-4690k-im-test.html?start=10

German site but page 10 and 11 have the proper benchmarks.
« Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 12:12:09 am by Molly »
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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 09:45:46 am »
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Water cooling isn't "fancy" anymore. You can get a CL kit for a honest price, and it is definitely worth it if you care about noise.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 09:47:07 am »
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I'd be sooper spookd installing that black magic in a PC

I mean, it is water .-.
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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 09:51:34 am »
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It's not really water, and you never see it anyway. With a CL kit it's just screw that on this, screw this on that and you're done.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 09:55:38 am »
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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 10:03:21 am »
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I've seen those kits but I still wouldn't feel comfortable with "liquid" running through my tech. I'm with Christo on this one.

Just a nice fan is gud enuf.
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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2014, 12:25:39 pm »
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I know plenty of people that do use them. But I'm also with Christo. I'd always have a niggling paranoia that something was going to go wrong.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2014, 12:31:31 pm »
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I am thinking like 100€ for the board, a i5-4690K for 200€ and some 8GB ram kit... no fancy water cooling, just a nice silent cooler for "something"...

I appreciate the help :wink:

Edit: Came across this just now and it seems that even the smallest i7 performs better :o
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/prozessoren/32452-intel-core-i5-4690k-im-test.html?start=10

German site but page 10 and 11 have the proper benchmarks.

Xeon E3-1231v3 is what I use. About 20€ more than i5-4690K but better and on par or very close to i7-4770K/4790K, where as the latter two are much more expensive.

This was my build:
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Used idealo.de with hardwareversand.de to get them parts cheaper.

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #11 on: November 21, 2014, 12:49:49 pm »
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1) Add 100 euros to GPU budget

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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 01:00:55 pm »
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Xeon E3-1231v3 is what I use. About 20€ more than i5-4690K but better and on par or very close to i7-4770K/4790K, where as the latter two are much more expensive.

This was my build:
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Used idealo.de with hardwareversand.de to get them parts cheaper.
Yea, I had my eye on the E3, read about it as a tip for gamer. Certainly considering that CPU.

Edit: idealo.de? hardwareversand.de? huh? You're German/Austrian? Always figured you as "Eastern Block" for some reason...
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Re: Finally building a new gaming beast - need some advice
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 01:21:08 pm »
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Yea, I had my eye on the E3, read about it as a tip for gamer. Certainly considering that CPU.

Edit: idealo.de? hardwareversand.de? huh? You're German/Austrian? Always figured you as "Eastern Block" for some reason...

I'm a slav, иди на хуй сука

That doesn't meant I don't know into german. And Germany has cheaper computer parts than slavlands.