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An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« on: March 29, 2011, 04:51:38 am »
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Please! I am totally sick of milanese-plated saranid-samurai with huscarl shields and side swords!
This is almost vital to the cRPG community. Give us a shield that equals the huscarl in stats but looks like an actual Knight shield! Perhaps even equal tier shields for all Calradian cultures so that people can really accentuate their styles.

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2011, 05:25:50 am »
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I'd love this.  Just take them out and leave players with some gold and tokens for lost heirlooms.  My preference is that the replacement shields be slightly different in size/shape though.  It's fun to see culturally unique differences among M&B factions, especially when playing against themed clans.

Note: perhaps this is a good time to suggest that we keep a huscarl-ish shield for hoplites.  Maybe increase its cost OR lower its stats, and remove the ugly metal bits from the front.  Ancient gear is underrepresented in this game so it may not be a good plan to remove one of the central de facto models players use to roleplay ancient era combat.
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2011, 05:30:55 am »
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I'd love this.  Just take them out and leave players with some gold and tokens for lost heirlooms.  My preference is that the replacement shields be slightly different in size/shape though.  It's fun to see culturally unique differences among M&B factions, especially when playing against themed clans.

Note: perhaps this is a good time to suggest that we keep a huscarl-ish shield for hoplites.  Maybe increase its cost OR lower its stats, and remove the ugly metal bits from the front.  Ancient gear is underrepresented in this game so it may not be a good plan to remove one of the central de facto models players use to roleplay ancient era combat.
Agreed 100%. We need more diversity among 1hand users and themed clans. I don't necessarily want to replace the huscy, just add 2-3 more shields for different factions/players.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2011, 05:32:47 am by TheDashingRogue »

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2011, 05:45:45 am »
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Please! I am totally sick of milanese-plated saranid-samurai with huscarl shields and side swords!
This is almost vital to the cRPG community. Give us a shield that equals the huscarl in stats but looks like an actual Knight shield! Perhaps even equal tier shields for all Calradian cultures so that people can really accentuate their styles.

+1 OP, so overdone and it won't be changed unless its no longer the go to shield for most shielders.
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2011, 05:47:08 am »
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Exactly.  :)

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2011, 11:08:50 am »
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Just nerf the huscal shield a bit and there will be plenty of alternative to it. It is just a short module_items1.py file edit.

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2011, 11:12:08 am »
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Dunno. Block their right swing. Overhead with your long maul. Problem solved.
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2011, 12:04:47 pm »
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Yep to new good shields, no to nerf.

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2011, 02:26:11 pm »
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nerf the huscarl shield to pieces! its really annoying no one uses other shields. if there is a shielder it always hasa huscarl shield -.-
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2011, 02:30:48 pm »
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nerf the huscarl shield to pieces! its really annoying no one uses other shields. if there is a shielder it always hasa huscarl shield -.-
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2011, 02:39:42 pm »
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If they just fixed shields where shield speed made any kind of really noticeable difference, this problem would fix itself.

As it stands, a Huscarl has a speed rating of 81. A Knightly heater has 100. However, that speed difference is BARELY noticeable. If people were rewarded more for using faster shields, I think we would see a lot more shield diversity. The Huscarl would then be very useful for say, pushing into a castle's walls and something like the Knightly Heater would be great for just general fighting.

If people switched to the faster lighter shields -which also can die in about 2 axe hits- I think we'd also have less people complaining about shields.
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2011, 03:45:32 pm »
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I completely notice a difference between the two.  I also notice that in hard combat the knightly heater lasts for twenty seconds.  That's where the huscarl shield is really tops.

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 03:48:16 pm »
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Dunno. Block their right swing. Overhead with your long maul. Problem solved.

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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2011, 05:27:01 pm »
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Let the scrubs use Huscarl shields, people who know whats up choose heater shield, like myself
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Re: An equal-Tier shield opposed to the over used Huscarl-shield
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2011, 05:48:40 pm »
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i just pick up what manofwar was using after(if) he dies.
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