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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #210 on: March 09, 2012, 06:26:58 pm »
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Its a stella film, also i believe when referring to Achilles i guess Xant meant in Troy.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #211 on: March 09, 2012, 06:28:03 pm »
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Yes, Achilles in Troy. Spartans in 300..
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #212 on: March 09, 2012, 06:37:03 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #213 on: March 09, 2012, 06:41:28 pm »
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I got it, I just disagree personally. Despite all the efforts from popular culture to portray swords as the 'badass hero weapon', I am a great fan of spears and spears would be my first pick as a weapon if they werent portrayed so shitty in this game.
Agreed, I've always loved spears, considers swords sorta lame TBH, I still use a spear/throwing lance, but I'd be willing to go pure-melee-spearman type of guy if they made spears better (=more fun) melee weapons.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #214 on: March 09, 2012, 06:44:51 pm »
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The fuck? War Spear is an AWESOME weapon!
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #215 on: March 09, 2012, 06:48:53 pm »
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The fuck? War Spear is an AWESOME weapon!
I know (throwing lance is a lot like the warspear), it just isn't like I'd want spearfighting to be.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #216 on: March 09, 2012, 08:59:23 pm »
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I know (throwing lance is a lot like the warspear), it just isn't like I'd want spearfighting to be.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #217 on: March 09, 2012, 09:07:18 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #218 on: March 09, 2012, 10:08:19 pm »
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Yes, Achilles in Troy. Spartans in 300..

And this is set what, 3/400 BC?
And cRPG is set what, 1100-1700 AD?
Not a big gap, you see...

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #219 on: March 09, 2012, 10:22:25 pm »
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #220 on: March 09, 2012, 11:17:52 pm »
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Not exactly ballet jumps, but Red Cliff is by far my favorite "war" movie ever.  Wish they made some movies about European history and battles in the same style as Red Cliff....if you haven't seen it, I'd recommend it.  Most of the "heroes" wield spears and pike type weapons.
Heard this was decent, watched it and was instantly reminded why I hate Chinese cinema. Wish they wouldn't fuck up badass European history by making it ridiculous like Red Cliff. I liked the spear duels, but like everything in the film they just overdo it.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #221 on: March 10, 2012, 12:09:12 am »
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And this is set what, 3/400 BC?
And cRPG is set what, 1100-1700 AD?
Not a big gap, you see...

Wut? The talk was about "popular culture" not "movies about 1100-1700 AD"
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #222 on: March 10, 2012, 12:28:26 am »
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Heard this was decent, watched it and was instantly reminded why I hate Chinese cinema. Wish they wouldn't fuck up badass European history by making it ridiculous like Red Cliff. I liked the spear duels, but like everything in the film they just overdo it.

I haven't seen Red Cliff (going to look for it though). The reason it is overdone in that style, is because most people (who aren't warriors) can't actually see just how skilled someone really is. If you showed an absolutely AMAZING duel between 2 Chess players, the average person will be bored to tears, with little more than an understanding of who won. Its similar in melee fights in real life as well.
Someone who doesn't understand c-RPG mechanics wouldn't understand everything that goes into a 1 vs 1 duel either. They wouldn't understand anything really about feints, chambering, footwork, closing distance to cause glances, etc. Two guys would go in, swing a few times. One dies. Not really epic if you don't understand ALL of the nuances involved in becoming skilled.
So they have to exaggerate. We understand that people can't really jump 30 feet into the air, and so does the audience. But what you are meant to understand is that 30 foot jump by one guy, that other guys in the movie can't make, is the difference in skill levels.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #223 on: March 10, 2012, 10:37:45 pm »
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I haven't seen Red Cliff (going to look for it though). The reason it is overdone in that style, is because most people (who aren't warriors) can't actually see just how skilled someone really is. If you showed an absolutely AMAZING duel between 2 Chess players, the average person will be bored to tears, with little more than an understanding of who won. Its similar in melee fights in real life as well.
Someone who doesn't understand c-RPG mechanics wouldn't understand everything that goes into a 1 vs 1 duel either. They wouldn't understand anything really about feints, chambering, footwork, closing distance to cause glances, etc. Two guys would go in, swing a few times. One dies. Not really epic if you don't understand ALL of the nuances involved in becoming skilled.
So they have to exaggerate. We understand that people can't really jump 30 feet into the air, and so does the audience. But what you are meant to understand is that 30 foot jump by one guy, that other guys in the movie can't make, is the difference in skill levels.

Yeah, but some still like to think it's sad that they make movies for the dumb people. Of course, it makes sense economically, but still...
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #224 on: March 10, 2012, 10:55:14 pm »
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Yeah, but some still like to think it's sad that they make movies for the dumb people. Of course, it makes sense economically, but still...

There is a difference between dumb, and uneducated on a specific subject, which Rumblood was talking about.
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