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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #150 on: March 07, 2012, 08:45:23 am »
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Keep it, please. Duels are boring enough already

Yeah, it's good that this game is balanced around duels, because duels are the core of the game, right?
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #151 on: March 07, 2012, 10:40:11 am »
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You think that hiltslashing is a balance problem? lmao

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #152 on: March 07, 2012, 10:57:39 am »
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Hiltslashing is one of the only remaining things that still go through the average person's block somewhat reliably.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #153 on: March 07, 2012, 11:02:01 am »
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Hiltslashing is one of the only remaining things that still go through the average person's block somewhat reliably.
Us Top 1% duelists need to stay on top, keep the 99% down.

Yeah, don't you hate it when people you're trying to kill can all block? Fighting multiple people is sometimes easier since most people can 1v1 block at least 5 times; so you fight them 1 v 3.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #154 on: March 07, 2012, 11:25:38 am »
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Hiltslashing is one of the only remaining things that still go through the average person's block somewhat reliably.

Start practising chamber blocking, that will get most people too. Especially in battle/siege, where most people are swinging in the same directions over and over it's fairly easy to do.

Kickslashing is something that get's me most of the time and I suck at doing it myself.

Couching goes through blocks and so does ranged fire (unless vs shielders ofc). Downside is you can't play as a 2h infantry guy for that :P
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #155 on: March 07, 2012, 11:35:15 am »
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Start practising chamber blocking, that will get most people too.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #156 on: March 07, 2012, 11:39:24 am »
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Start practising chamber blocking, that will get most people too. Especially in battle/siege, where most people are swinging in the same directions over and over it's fairly easy to do.

AHAHAHAHAHAA. You're about a year and two months late for telling people chambering is effective.  What logen said is untrue and logen is also a bundle of sticks who thinks I can't edit my posts as well
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #157 on: March 07, 2012, 11:57:07 am »
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Start practising chamber blocking, that will get most people too. Especially in battle/siege, where most people are swinging in the same directions over and over it's fairly easy to do.

Kickslashing is something that get's me most of the time and I suck at doing it myself.

Couching goes through blocks and so does ranged fire (unless vs shielders ofc). Downside is you can't play as a 2h infantry guy for that :P
Not too impressed by the usefulness of chamber blocking, became quite the chamber whore recently but it mostly just gets blocked. Although now as a 1h chambering with the leftswing is pretty sweet.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #158 on: March 07, 2012, 11:59:32 am »
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Most of the decent players in cRPG are able to block chambers, not so much in native though.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #159 on: March 07, 2012, 12:20:34 pm »
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Hiltslashing and chambering, by our powers combined, all feinters auto die.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #160 on: March 07, 2012, 01:08:14 pm »
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backpedaling and long reach compensate speed,so danish sword/glaive is actualy faster then some shorter weapons.
I quit 1h because i am faster then polearms,but their reach remove speed factor.
There is too many heavy armor users in game,good thing is that i am cav so i don't gve a fuck when i backstab them,but when you play as inf that can be annoying.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #161 on: March 07, 2012, 02:12:32 pm »
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Let's not be too unmindful of the probably many who choose the Danish or German for looks, RP or other reasons and not just stats. I have personally always preferred speed and always used the Two-handed Sword for duels in Native (and actually found the GS to be a bit cartoonish, too mainstream and anachronistic in comparison to other WB weaponry), where as good as everyone uses the GS in competitions, but in cRPG I can use a sword made by my forefathers and which I like the appearance of, and which also fits the timeframe of other armaments in the module. Others, many I guess, simply like to choose the biggest and most hard-hitting sword they can find, and many are accustomed to Zweihanders from pop-culture, which I think is perhaps the main reason for the prevalence of these swords on the servers.

And yes, as Tor touches upon, many have probably also been inspired by other good 2handers, especially in the early cRPG where there were many old duellists from Native using GS (and 2h lolstabbing was pretty ridiculous back then) with a lot of fighting experience in a time where the majority of the cRPG population had only just stumbled upon cRPG/WB.

That said, and though the weapon is expensive it definitely has great stats and I wouldn't mind them being slightly adjusted if other weapons were balanced accordingly, like the poleaxes which I personally find to be the strongest, all-round infantry choice in cRPG. I just don't think it will decrease their number as much as we may like.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #162 on: March 07, 2012, 02:57:31 pm »
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Most people wants to be the hero and he does not wield a spear.
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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #163 on: March 07, 2012, 06:05:15 pm »
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My heroes are 1h shielders.....so do whatever code ya can so they are number one close quarters weapon. As they should be.

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Re: 2 weapons dominate 2h/pole.
« Reply #164 on: March 07, 2012, 06:18:08 pm »
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Most people wants to be the hero and he does not wield a spear.

Tell that to the asian spear heroes!
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