Can't watch it in Czech Republic, prolly cause we had two major concentration camps established here after we let einstein in without giving him a fight. We're literally to blame for the start of WWII, fmpob.same here, brambor cousin
yeaaah I don´t want to go to jail, thanks :?
Sure am glad i live in a country where i cant be jailed for questioning the doctrine they teach me in schools.or the doctrine of the people who lived during those times and told us in huge detail how exactly everything went down back then
or the doctrine of the people who lived during those times and told us in huge detail how exactly everything went down back then
this isn´t murica, Gravy, we actually do get a really good history education and still have people from that time who were able to educate us. The austrians were known to supersede most of the stuff and call bullshit on what happened, but the more they actually tell their kids about what and how it exactly went down, partly frightened, partly (still!) worshipping. I don´t go to jail if I watch pro-squarebeard stuff as long as I don´t overdo it. I just play it save by keeping my "online portfolio" low aswell
btw, if you can find a version with subtitles, watch "Der Herr Karl", although it´s just one-man-cabaret, it was quite a shocker back then since that one guy represents how a lot of people acted back then, he´s especially reflecting the austrian culture and thinking well, a bit too well for the liking of some people since we can be quite twisted
If the education was so good, why should it be outlawed to question history? There should be nothing to hide. That alone makes me all the more eager to question and consider.again, it´s not outlawed to question history, it´s outlawed to run around and shout "sieg heil" n shit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_against_Holocaust_denial
But it is
He who operates in a manner characterized other than that in § § 3a – 3f will be punished
whoever denies, grossly plays down, approves or tries to excuse the National Socialist genocide or other National Socialist crimes against humanity in a print publication, in broadcast or other media
yeaaah I don´t want to go to jail, thanks :?I guess I overdid it with the sarcasm, sorry for the confusion.
Why?
Deny the existence of a major historical event in a print publication, broadcast or other media without sufficient evidence? Denial for the sake of denial, or an anti-intellectual exercise to see how far you can push 'muh freedom of speech'.
Maybe you could argue that pig-headed denial is a human right or something. Maybe it is. But what's the 'pro' argument for the publication and exportation of this denial?
Forget 'people should be able to...', I think that people already can do and say anything they want. Anything at all. But everything has repercussions, and if you don't consider your surroundings and context before acting then maybe you go to jail or maybe win the Darwin awards. That's a fairly general rule for the world we live in. If you crave attention and wish to deny the holocaust without sufficient evidence for no particular reason you can do so. Some places you'll get arrested. Some places you'll get beaten up. Some places maybe neither of those things will happen.
Questioning things based on evidence and outright denying something without evidence are not equal actions, they are not treated equally.
Jews weren't gassed.
Deny the existence of a major historical event in a print publication, broadcast or other media without sufficient evidence? Denial for the sake of denial, or an anti-intellectual exercise to see how far you can push 'muh freedom of speech'.
Maybe you could argue that pig-headed denial is a human right or something. Maybe it is. But what's the 'pro' argument for the publication and exportation of this denial?
Don't get me wrong I am really just playing dickheads advocate here. It's full retard to deny the Holocaust but I tend to lean towards free speech being an important right. Despite that it means more morons speaking aswell.
Let's say your grandparents were raped, tortured and humiliated in most brutal ways. Then some little bundle of sticks kid comes up and yells "holocause never happened xDDDD". Would you still respect his "freedom of speech"? It's one thing to be simply deluded like the flat Earth people, they don't really harm anyone, and sensible people know what's true anyway. But ignorant internet "scholars" who shit on your history for whatever reason are another thing.
If you print slander in published media about an individual or a company, just something you've made up without evidence, you get fined obnoxious amounts of money in a court of law. Nobody gets precious about freedom of speech in this instance. A moron in public could still say these things, just not publish it as fact.
If you print flat holocaust denial without evidence in media then a court of law also decides your level of guilt (in some countries). Is this really so different?
Is this really so different?
And here's the best thing - as long as that little bundle of sticks comes up to you in person and says 'holocause never happened xDDDD' as long as he avoids doing so "in a manner capable of disturbing the public peace" he is still legally able to do so even in Germany (or at least he doesn't explicitly break the specific laws against Holocaust denial). So yelling it in your face is probably not allowed but otherwise yay freedom of speech. It would probably be a stupid idea if he values his own existence, but freedom of speech wins again. Hurrah.
It's way out of proportion to say that it's a blanket ban on discussing or assessing the established history.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-39575680
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The media does post any old garbage. But personal accusations without evidence are considered slander, go to court, and reward you with big $$$
Why should you be able to slander a country's-worth of people in a written publication when you wouldn't be allowed to slander a single person? Again, you can publish opinion but not 'slander'.