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Melee: Battlegrounds => General => Topic started by: FleetFox on March 11, 2015, 11:01:07 am

Title: Female Characters
Post by: FleetFox on March 11, 2015, 11:01:07 am
Hi all, I know this has been mentioned before but I want to make the point again. We need to have female characters in the game too just like warband. We should not isolate 50% of people because there is only one gender type in the game. For me this is actually one of the most important things that I would love to hear that will or has already been added. Just been watching another Melee Battlegrounds vid, and it struck me there are just no female characters. What do you think?

Cheers
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on March 11, 2015, 11:09:16 am
I guess adding female characters later on is no problem and right now it is just very low priority.

And actually I would love it if they would insist on historical accuracy on this on, but I guess that'd be their death sentence as devs these days... :D
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Grumbs on March 11, 2015, 11:17:21 am
If families is a key part of the gameplay I imagine females will be in the game. Think i'd rather they have more varied armours than have to duplicate each one so it fits a female body though. Or can they just have female heads?
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 11:33:13 am
We definitely want females characters in the game, 100%, it's big a vital part of the final vision. Right now we don't have a female model nor anyone on the team who can make one, but it's something we want to get as soon as we can (have the means), for now you'll just have to enjoy the sausage fest :P
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 11:44:00 am
Quote from: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 11:33:13 am
Right now we don't have a female model nor anyone on the team who can make one

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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 11:53:26 am
Quote from: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 11:44:00 am
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Yo it's hard making dem human models ya know :wink: none of the guys works with male/female models in general, they're experienced and good with making armors, weapons, items etc.

The male model was created via outsourcing in the beginning, which is more than likely how we'll get the female model made too.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: FleetFox on March 11, 2015, 11:58:55 am
Quote from: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 11:33:13 am
We definitely want females characters in the game, 100%, it's big a vital part of the final vision. Right now we don't have a female model nor anyone on the team who can make one, but it's something we want to get as soon as we can (have the means), for now you'll just have to enjoy the sausage fest :P

Ok thats good to hear, appreciate the straight answer mate :) thanks.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 12:14:09 pm
Also, no boob armor or anything silly like that. It'll be historical, meaning everyone wears the same — though of course some notable females had custom made armors.

http://io9.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338 (http://io9.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338)

Good article, give it a read.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Vovka on March 11, 2015, 12:47:14 pm
just add boobs to male model  :lol:
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Casimir on March 11, 2015, 01:07:43 pm
Quote from: Vovka on March 11, 2015, 12:47:14 pm
just add boobs to male model  :lol:

only works if game is set in germany

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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 01:17:02 pm
Quote from: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 12:14:09 pm
Also, no boob armor or anything silly like that. It'll be historical, meaning everyone wears the same — though of course some notable females had custom made armors.


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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 01:44:25 pm
Also: will armor be adjustable to different body shapes & features ? For example - If I want to roleplay someone like Lansamur will this be possible:

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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Sigibert on March 11, 2015, 02:08:57 pm
Quote from: Casimir on March 11, 2015, 01:07:43 pm
only works if game is set in germany

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not sure if reference to fat dudes or weird porn...
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: FleetFox on March 11, 2015, 02:17:42 pm
Quote from: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 12:14:09 pm
Also, no boob armor or anything silly like that. It'll be historical, meaning everyone wears the same — though of course some notable females had custom made armors.

http://io9.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338 (http://io9.com/what-kind-of-armor-did-medieval-women-really-wear-1502779338)

Good article, give it a read.

I think the way we have it in cRPG is adequate, the armours stay the same they just change shape a little to fit the female form. Don't know if thats so practical this time around, but you have always done a good job with that in cRPG with new armours.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 07:59:33 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 01:44:25 pm
Also: will armor be adjustable to different body shapes & features ? For example - If I want to roleplay someone like Lansamur will this be possible:

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A gut slider is very much in the plans :P
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 08:09:42 pm
Quote from: Nessaj on March 11, 2015, 07:59:33 pm
A gut slider is very much in the plans :P


Hopefully those guts will be properly spillable as well.  :wink:
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Teeth on March 11, 2015, 09:58:58 pm
Can female characters have like a 30% penalty on everything combat related? Gotta be realistic about things.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: ARN_ on March 11, 2015, 10:09:30 pm
Quote from: Teeth on March 11, 2015, 09:58:58 pm
Can female characters have like a 30% penalty on everything combat related? Gotta be realistic about things.
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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Eddy on March 11, 2015, 10:19:48 pm
He was talking about female characters not whales  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 11:14:08 pm
Quote from: Teeth on March 11, 2015, 09:58:58 pm
Can female characters have like a 30% penalty on everything combat related? Gotta be realistic about things.


From what I managed to find in my quick-search it seems that female warriors during medieval times were not really a common thing, there should be a way to limit their numbers so we don't end up playing a medieval combat simulation with mostly female characters (and yes - they should have some kind of minor strength penalty to be realistic).  :wink:
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Mostly Vikings and Easterners (Mongols, Japs and such) were known for taking female warriors to their wars and it was less than 10% of their numbers. Most of the "famous" female warriors were exceptions. Found some interesting stuff here:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/female-viking-warriors-proof-swords#470354

Ofc - I'm no expert but I find this topic interesting. Maybe our Vizantologist Zimke knows more about it.  :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_post-classical_warfare#13th_century
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Senni__Ti on March 12, 2015, 01:25:59 am
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on March 11, 2015, 11:35:20 pm
Not common true, but what about Boudicca? Burnt down 3 Roman towns, killed 70,000-80,000 Romano-British with her female-led Iceni rebellion. Dont see the balance value in decreasing stats for female characters, maybe RP value but it sounds like the game will be combat-orientated. Warrior Queen all the way (not for me but in general, I only make male characters).
Medieval nab :).

I don't see why there should be any penalty on female characters though.
The game will never be realistic enough for female characters to be the most unrealistic thing.


EDIT: Joan of arc!
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: lombardsoup on March 12, 2015, 09:32:20 am
I expect nothing less than fat slob 600lb whales mass rolling down a hill into other players.  The effect on morale will be devastating
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Sigibert on March 12, 2015, 10:06:37 am
Quote from: Senni__Ti on March 12, 2015, 01:25:59 am
EDIT: Joan of arc!

... did not actually fight. But same could be said for many of those medieval military leaders.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Casimir on March 12, 2015, 01:03:17 pm
Quote from: Senni__Ti on March 12, 2015, 01:25:59 am
Medieval nab :).

Medieval Boudica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwenllian_ferch_Gruffydd
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Teeth on March 12, 2015, 02:20:54 pm
Quote from: Gnjus on March 11, 2015, 11:14:08 pm

From what I managed to find in my quick-search it seems that female warriors during medieval times were not really a common thing, there should be a way to limit their numbers so we don't end up playing a medieval combat simulation with mostly female characters (and yes - they should have some kind of minor strength penalty to be realistic).  :wink:
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Mostly Vikings and Easterners (Mongols, Japs and such) were known for taking female warriors to their wars and it was less than 10% of their numbers. Most of the "famous" female warriors were exceptions. Found some interesting stuff here:

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/female-viking-warriors-proof-swords#470354

Ofc - I'm no expert but I find this topic interesting. Maybe our Vizantologist Zimke knows more about it.  :wink:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_post-classical_warfare#13th_century
You don't need to look at history to know that women are inferior to men when it comes to physical strength and speed.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Siiem on March 12, 2015, 07:58:42 pm
Quote from: HESKEYTIME on March 11, 2015, 11:35:20 pm
Not common true, but what about Boudicca? Burnt down 3 Roman towns, killed 70,000-80,000 Romano-British with her female-led Iceni rebellion. Dont see the balance value in decreasing stats for female characters, maybe RP value but it sounds like the game will be combat-orientated. Warrior Queen all the way (not for me but in general, I only make male characters).

Inb4 strategical leader like any commander and did no fighting of her own.

If she did, this would probably be the result.

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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Leshma on March 12, 2015, 09:27:02 pm
Bannerlord will have female characters. I can't really stand playing with male char, so if you don't have female char you can consider yourself Leshma free :D
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Siiem on March 12, 2015, 10:09:27 pm
Quote from: Leshma on March 12, 2015, 09:27:02 pm
so if you don't have female char you can consider yourself Leshma free :D

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Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Leshma on March 12, 2015, 10:20:24 pm
That is why I put happy smile at the end, those are good news.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Talia_TBG on May 05, 2015, 02:14:23 am
you can have female characters, it's in the game design and the website profile. the female voices are a bit rough sounding though and I think somebody could do more female armour.
Title: Re: Female Characters
Post by: Siiem on May 05, 2015, 08:43:22 am
Quote from: Talia_TBG on May 05, 2015, 02:14:23 am
female armour.

Is female armour metal based like regular armour?