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Title: rainbow six siege
Post by: Banok on July 19, 2014, 01:08:10 am
unscripted gameplay

think this game deserves its own thread now.

Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 19, 2014, 01:18:10 am
Looks like utter shit.

If I had any hopes of Ubisoft actually doing something decent and getting R6 back on track, this video shattered them.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Banok on July 19, 2014, 02:35:21 am
Looks like utter shit.

If I had any hopes of Ubisoft actually doing something decent and getting R6 back on track, this video shattered them.

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I think I played one of the older rainbow games before, it was ok I guess.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Teeth on July 19, 2014, 12:54:42 pm
Rainbow Six series consisted of glorious hardcore and nerdy PC games, the like of which has been dead since AAA game development figured out that more accessible games means more accessible wallets. It's all one bland mess now.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 19, 2014, 12:59:16 pm
This whole game looks like it could be a BF mod someone made in thirty minutes.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Tibe on July 19, 2014, 02:48:18 pm
Im pretty sure this sounded good on paper, but dunno, looks a little boring to me. Sure the first 10 matches or so are gonna be fun but is it really worth 60 bucks. Cause I can only see myself loving a few matches than after that it appears to wear off quite fast. Unless this game is gonna have a cool and not that complex map editor, kinda like FC2 had I doubt its gonna be enjoyable enough.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 19, 2014, 04:02:28 pm
- Shitty destructive environment (creates randomness, isn't even done well here -- shoot twice into a barricaded window with MP5 to create a huge hole, or punch it once...)
- Guns obviously take no skill to shoot, making it a really bad shooter (who sees first wins), because of the two points below
- Map design clearly didn't have competitiveness (=fairness and "skill beats no skill") in mind
- Camper's heaven, highlighted by all the crappy clutter everywhere and enemies are hard to make out
- You can cycle between all of your teammates camera drones WHILE DEAD and give info
- You can use drones for all the info you want while alive....
- Gun sounds/general feel is SHIT
- Rappeling etc clearly just a gimmick
- Graphics are ten times worse than in the scripted presentation.

And so on. Just horrible. Bored just watching a minute of this. And this is what they abandoned Raven Shield for, sigh.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Switchtense on July 19, 2014, 05:22:59 pm
To me it's not a Rainbow Six. Rainbow Six involves tactical gameplay, working as a team, going out without any casualties.

This is Call of Duty: Siege.

Would definitely get it if they removed the timer and tweaked things like drones, ghosting, recoil... But like that, meh.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Tibe on July 19, 2014, 05:47:22 pm
Im quite sure you can tweak the timer to never expire in the game match options.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Banok on July 20, 2014, 02:17:11 am
Rainbow Six series consisted of glorious hardcore and nerdy PC games, the like of which has been dead since AAA game development figured out that more accessible games means more accessible wallets. It's all one bland mess now.

well the one I played was on a console years ago.

inevitable redundant comparison to call of duty.  :P

you give info to teammates when dead in competitive CS too, enemy can shoot drones - did so in video. theres really no other games with that level of destruction, so lol. seriously no legit criticisms just boils down to "I don't like it".

I feel like a fanboy now, but I do know I might hate the game too when I play it. especially longterm when gunplay is generic, but destructible maps in bc2 kept it fresh alot longer.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 20, 2014, 08:27:39 am
you give info to teammates when dead in competitive CS too
..... yes for 0.3 secs, you see one predictable direction, you don't have fucking drones to watch locations with when dead, what a broken comparison.

Might be no "legit criticisms" for you if you're bad at FPS games and like ones where the winner is determined by luck and camping.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 20, 2014, 08:28:41 am
Tor is a bundle of sticks
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on July 20, 2014, 08:32:27 am
Cooties is gay
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Clockworkkiller on June 30, 2015, 07:44:51 pm

really interested in this game, but i fear its gonna be plagued by mic less pubs who dont use teamwork
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on June 30, 2015, 07:55:56 pm
It's going to suck. It's very obviously a simplified console FPS game with a ton of gimmicks and little actual skill or tactics involved. Fucking gaylords killed one of the best FPS series ever for this casual cookie cutter crap. Also, those Dan Bull raps are super cringe-worthy.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: LordBerenger on June 30, 2015, 08:17:35 pm
Atleast it has aim down sights.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2015, 08:52:38 am
Beta starts today, you can grab your key here

http://www.ign.com/prime/promo/r6-beta
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 24, 2015, 09:28:08 am
Why are they just giving out closed beta keys? And nice how the FAQ on the R6 site says pre-ordering guarantees beta key, then they just give them out to every plebian out there.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 24, 2015, 10:04:11 am
Why are they just giving out closed beta keys? And nice how the FAQ on the R6 site says pre-ordering guarantees beta key, then they just give them out to every plebian out there.

I think it's different types of beta access. The ones they're giving out last just a few days, from what I heard.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Molly on September 24, 2015, 11:06:18 am
I'll give it a try.
The destruction part seems a nice feature but I highly doubt that I'll enjoy it. Not enough to spend moneyz on it, at least.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Clockworkkiller on September 24, 2015, 01:17:35 pm
Is shit, check out Due Process instead of this crap
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 25, 2015, 04:34:44 am
Starts today, does it? What the hell Vibe, where do you get off lying to us like this?
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 25, 2015, 08:40:30 am
Yeah well WHATEVER

it seems that beta access will be going out in waves, not all at once, starting today/yesterday

Quote
Hello everyone,

The day we've all been waiting for is here.Tthe Rainbow Six Siege Closed Beta has officially begun, and the first wave of invites are already going out. Yesterday we released a blog post giving some information on the current state of the beta and how we would be operating it. We realize there is still some confusion and frustration regarding how access is being granted, and why we're doing it this way.

As you know, we are granting access to the Closed Beta in waves. We obviously want to get you access as quickly as possible (we want you to play and have fun!), but the focus of our testing right now is on player experience flow and matchmaking. By staggering beta access, we can better manage server stability as the player population ramps up, which is crucial to a great experience when the game launches December 1st. We will be addressing load testing at a later date. We've already gathered a lot of incredibly useful data during the last few days of the technical test, and we have many matchmaking improvements in the development pipeline. We expect to make even more progress over the weekend with your help.

Anyone who pre-ordered the game will be receiving their beta activation email today (North American time zone), and we are currently in the process of sending those out. By the end of the day, we will also be sending out invites to a large number of those who had guaranteed access codes redeemed on the website. If you do not receive your invite today please hang tight, we will give an update tomorrow morning.

We're working to get you in the game as quickly as possible so please check your email daily. We're grateful and humbled by your passion to play, and we want to work together so you can have the best experience now and at launch. Thank you for your understanding, we can’t wait to get your feedback once you’re in!

Chase “Electr1cPanda” Straight
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Angantyr on September 25, 2015, 10:52:18 am
I really liked the first game in the series, are any of the others worth taking a look at? Also played the first Ghost Recon game.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 25, 2015, 01:27:00 pm
Raven Shield is the best R6.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Angantyr on September 25, 2015, 01:37:25 pm
Oh yeah, watching videos I remember playing it but my PC couldn't handle the graphics satisfactorily back in 2003.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 25, 2015, 02:21:16 pm
It's the last true R6, and the first one with some modern additions like visible gun.

Aged very well too, I played it through a couple years ago and I don't generally like playing old games again.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Radament on September 25, 2015, 08:33:01 pm
played raven shield and did some esl clanbase(dead) tournaments with my clan , was a very fun and strategic game , not to mention the terrorist hunt gamemode played in crazy custom maps.
r6:siege seems an fast paced shooter with some cool features but looks like another cod style game imho :(
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 26, 2015, 03:20:03 am
Siege, btw, is/will be worth maximum of 15 dollars. Shallow, console FPS gameplay with gimmicks that are either gay or pointless or both. And the much lauded destruction is just some pre-determined points that get destroyed in a pre-determined (as opposed to dynamic) way. Yawn.

And "champions" in a FPS game? Really?
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Grytviken on September 26, 2015, 08:25:04 am
Damn, I used to love this franchise, I miss tearing it up on City Street Large and Killhouse on the old MSN gaming zone  :lol:


Xant did you ever play on the SnapS, SMAK or PaB servers on RS or RVS? Old Clan leader owned a netcafe in Aalborg DK and had a T1 or T3 connection for hosting servers back in the day when dialup was still common  :lol:
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 26, 2015, 09:14:10 pm
The game's not horrible but it's not very good either. Rounds are WAY WAY too short. I don't really judge the skill cap for shooting and stuff because I don't really expect this game to have much competitive potential, but I think it can/could be developed into a more tactical shooter, but they need to add more mechanics, longer rounds, just more layers to attacking/defending.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Leshma on September 26, 2015, 11:31:40 pm
Only good games in this genre are: Rogue Spear, Raven Shield, SWAT 3 and 4 and Ghost Recon. Rest are streamlined crap.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Angantyr on September 27, 2015, 12:38:32 am
Seems I also played a lot of Rogue Spear, don't know why I had forgotten. Think I actually played it a lot more than the first one, which was also a really good game btw. As was Swat 1 & 2.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Algarn on September 28, 2015, 01:52:28 am
Don't fuckin tell me the guys that are playing as terrorists are operators from SAS, GIGN, SWAT, etc ... Who the hell had this idea ? That looks retarded. Why don't they replace the skins for the defenders by terrorist skins inpired by csgo for example, and the weaponry by older and more affordable weapons. Like, no AK47, sawed off shotgun, or M92 as defender, but L85A2s and MP7s ? To hell with this game already, I want to plant bombs as a terrorist, not as a GSG9 operator.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: gallonigher on September 28, 2015, 06:08:46 am
I can remember playing the hell out of the first Ghost Recon on Xbox.  The game had a certain griminess to it but it was well-designed down to the pre-mission planning and the squad layout.  It could also be really unforgiving; the terrorist sometimes had X-ray vision and they seemed to be able to hip-fire proficiently at 300 yards but it felt so much like a simulator to me in my teenage years.  Sadly I couldn't get into the newer ones at all.  It doesn't even feel like the same game series since you can only play those in 3rd person.  It changed the gameplay so much for me that I couldn't enjoy it like I used to.

Give me a new ghost recon that plays like an updated version of the 2001 ghost recon with 2015 graphics set in the modern day.  Also make it play in 1st person with weapon models and a minimal HUD.  That would be a game I might be willing to buy.  But this is Ubisoft,  they are a far-cry from the small but respectable company they were in 2001.  These days I fondly refer to them as Ubi$hit.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2015, 10:24:29 am
I can't tell whether this is some forum bug or this post is lost for good, or what the fuck happened to it. When I go from my profile posts to it, it links to top of this page. So I'm not sure you guys have seen it:

Quote from: Vibe
The game's not horrible but it's not very good either. Rounds are WAY WAY too short. I don't really judge the skill cap for shooting and stuff because I don't really expect this game to have much competitive potential, but I think it can/could be developed into a more tactical shooter, but they need to add more mechanics, longer rounds, just more layers to attacking/defending.

I've played some more of it now and it is somewhat enjoyable. It's never going to replace a game like counterstrike or such and I'm even going to go as far as to say that it's a very different game. In Siege it comes down much more to positioning and how attackers breach the site rather than actual skill in aim, since most of the fights are going to be very close range, there's hardly any aim required. So it comes down to attackers scouting out the place and trying to coordinate a breach (with the use of gadgets that are provided to each specific class) and defenders working to counter that with their traps and gadgets and clever positioning.

That's my gist of it at least from a couple of hours played.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vexus on September 30, 2015, 11:59:13 am
From what I've seen besides the riot shield being a tad bit OP, it looks like fun with a group of friends.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2015, 12:25:55 pm
From what I've seen besides the riot shield being a tad bit OP, it looks like fun with a group of friends.

Yeah riot shields need a bit of balance, but it has more to do with the fact that pistols (only thing you can use with shields) have ridiculous damage and laser accuracy from hipfire..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qDkkDqcGPI&feature=youtu.be disgusting
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: LordBerenger on September 30, 2015, 02:16:04 pm
From what I've seen besides the riot shield being a tad bit OP, it looks like fun with a group of friends.

What if you don't have friends? Foreveralone.jpg
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Leshma on September 30, 2015, 02:54:04 pm
Better have no friends than having friends who play Rainbow Six Siege.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vexus on September 30, 2015, 06:28:01 pm
What if you don't have friends? Foreveralone.jpg

You rage at random people for being retards simple.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: LordBerenger on September 30, 2015, 07:47:01 pm
You rage at random people for being retards simple.

GTA Online heists on PC...nuff said.

Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on September 30, 2015, 08:38:52 pm
Haven't been able to find any games for the past couple of days, just goes to the "multiplayer" screen and the players in my team keep adding up and switching but enemy team stays at "searching player" for all 5 slots no matter how long I wait.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on September 30, 2015, 08:40:23 pm
Haven't been able to find any games for the past couple of days, just goes to the "multiplayer" screen and the players in my team keep adding up and switching but enemy team stays at "searching player" for all 5 slots no matter how long I wait.

The matchmaking is a bit fucked and takes a while. Supposedly today was another patch addressed to matchmaking.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: JasonPastman on January 02, 2016, 08:45:25 pm
I picked this up on sale for $45.  The game play is excellent.  Actually my biggest concern, which almost caused me to pass this title over are the cash grab micro-transactions.  The fact that most of the content is locked until you grind for it was very concerning for a p2p game.  However, it seems to me that I'll be able to unlock everything (minus skins) with about 50 hours of play (fun and not grindy at all), which is very reasonable in my opinion.  I'm very happy with this purchase.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on January 02, 2016, 08:49:26 pm
sale

45$

lol
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: JasonPastman on January 02, 2016, 08:51:56 pm
sale

45$

lol

Well, considering it came out about a month ago, %25 off is pretty sweet for a solid AAA title.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on January 02, 2016, 08:56:32 pm
"AAA"
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vibe on January 02, 2016, 09:39:14 pm
Well, considering it came out about a month ago, %25 off is pretty sweet for a solid AAA title.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: gallonigher on January 03, 2016, 05:54:05 am
I got it for free with my new graphics card but I've yet to play it.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Xant on January 03, 2016, 09:01:22 am
Could you make a comprehensive list of all the games you've yet to play? I feel like such a list would be hugely interesting to the forum dwellers and enjoy long lasting popularity as the de facto gallonigher's yet-to-play-list-of-games.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Thovex on January 03, 2016, 09:23:31 am
gam was totally worth the $0 it costed me to play for like 3 hours
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Mr_Oujamaflip on January 03, 2016, 11:55:22 am
To be honest the grind isn't that bad, once you do the single player training missions you can unlock half of everything. I do think the microtransactions are dumb though, no need for them.

Also when you consider all the game modes and weapons and attachments there's about as much content as CS:GO so why the fuck is it £50?
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Vexus on January 03, 2016, 12:45:32 pm
Well you are able to destroy walls/roofs to gain an advantage on your enemies unlike CS:GO.

Besides it's a new game vs an old one, there's bound to be less maps. Nowadays all shooters seem to launch with few maps.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: JasonPastman on January 03, 2016, 02:47:22 pm
Well you are able to destroy walls/roofs to gain an advantage on your enemies unlike CS:GO.

Besides it's a new game vs an old one, there's bound to be less maps. Nowadays all shooters seem to launch with few maps.

Not just that, but with each character's ability, the way each round plays is unique, which causes strategy to constantly change. This is very different from a linear game such as cs:go.  I also don't mind the micro transactions.  While I don't care for the cash grab nature of it, if people want to pay more for less grind or skins (and presumably help fund dev costs), I'm fine with that when, such as here, it's not pay to win.  I've had the game for 2 day's and have half of everything (minus skins unlocked).  Besides i usually play recruit, as it gives my team a heads up that I'm still learning the game and allows me to try out various weapons and play styles.

Honestly, this is by far one of the most interesting and challenging shooters I've played in years.  I'm also kind of glad by the fact that there are only 11 maps as learning them is vital, and their complexity is substantial unlike CS.  Not to mention that while CS launched with 16 maps, how many of them do people regularly play? 
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: gallonigher on January 07, 2016, 10:55:54 pm
Could you make a comprehensive list of all the games you've yet to play? I feel like such a list would be hugely interesting to the forum dwellers and enjoy long lasting popularity as the de facto gallonigher's yet-to-play-list-of-games.

At least I'm still on topic.
Title: Re: rainbow six siege
Post by: Switchtense on April 03, 2016, 12:47:30 pm
Anyone actually playing this still?