Down with the abuse, and down with you as well!
I think any post started by Balton Beiber on that board should be deleted on general principle. You get repeatedly kicked and banned because you are little leeching troll-ass-bitch on any server you play on. Admins kick you because you leech, you delay and you generally do anything you can to piss everyone else off. It's narcissistic players like you that make baby jesus cry. Can I get a 'Hell yea'?
I think any post started by Balton Beiber on that board should be deleted on general principle. You get repeatedly kicked and banned because you are little leeching troll-ass-bitch on any server you play on. Admins kick you because you leech, you delay and you generally do anything you can to piss everyone else off. It's narcissistic players like you that make baby jesus cry. Can I get a 'Hell yea'?
I think any post started by Balton Beiber on that board should be deleted on general principle. You get repeatedly kicked and banned because you are little leeching troll-ass-bitch on any server you play on. Admins kick you because you leech, you delay and you generally do anything you can to piss everyone else off. It's narcissistic players like you that make baby jesus cry. Can I get a 'Hell yea'?
I think any post started by Balton Beiber on that board should be deleted on general principle. You get repeatedly kicked and banned because you are little leeching troll-ass-bitch on any server you play on. Admins kick you because you leech, you delay and you generally do anything you can to piss everyone else off. It's narcissistic players like you that make baby jesus cry. Can I get a 'Hell yea'?
Uhm, the idea was that you would discuss Wooki and Nuffen here, not balton. There are enough threads for that.
Anyhow, whilst were at it, what have i done to deserve this sudden influx of -'es?
Shouldn't that earn me an influx of +'es? Gawd, why do i derail my own thread?
Aren't there people that are going to support Wooki and Lilith now?
Agreed in regards to Balton. I have a hard time believing that the only reason why he was banned by [ptx] is because he is a spamming douchebag who thinks that he is good (which is true, by the way). His problem is indeed is his attitude. The guy is a fucking douche and probably said many things to get himself banned. Now he makes up make up 50% of the ban requests on that forum, the problem is clearly him. Someone needs to revoke his rights to post on that section of the forum.
Oh God, the irony. Also, umad bro?
...I am a retard.
Well, at least you got past the denial stage.
I see what you did there bro. How original.
Uhm, the idea was that you would discuss Wooki and Nuffen here, not balton. There are enough threads for that.
Anyhow, whilst were at it, what have i done to deserve this sudden influx of -'es?
The guy is a fucking douche .... the problem is clearly him.... Someone needs to revoke his rights to post on that section of the forum.
Well, Lilith is by far the worst admin out there. He has no common sense whatsoever and if you dare question his judgement you get muted, kicked or banned. Example: Killing someone at the last round of the map, 1 enemy left, 20 teammates vs him. The guy you TK doesn't whine. Lilith kicks and then mutes when asking what the problem was. Retarded admining at its best.
Xant, this is not the place to whine. But you really show how a lot of those who wanna remove my admin rights are failing.
First, you intentionally tked, you even admitted it. For this you were not banned, as I should have, but only got a kick. I did an error here, as I was afraid of people thinking I was doing it because you voted to remove you. Such things shouldnt afflict admins actions (even if this was the opposite of what kophka accuses me of). I shouldve banned you, and you know it.
You also know you broke the rules, still, instead of accepting the kick, or even trying to justify your actions, you start spamming about me abusing. So again, I shouldve banned you, but I muted you.
Then, you go here to whine about it, only to show how unserious some of you guys are.
Thank you.
So, you broke a rule, you got kicked. What am I missing here?
The lack of common sense.
That can be applied both ways.
Well, if you don't see how teamkilling is wrong, then you deserved to be banned :lol:
Explain to me how it's wrong to teamkill someone at the end of the map when your team has an assured victory?
Morality is irrelevant. By playing on the server, you're accepting the rules of said server. One of these rules is not to team-attack/kill intentionally.
Why is the rule there? Surely not to prevent what I did? I'll help you out - it's not there for that. It's there to prevent harmful teamkilling. That's where common sense and admin discretion steps in.
Rule utiltarianism, look it up.
You can't just bend the rules to your liking. The rule is clear: no intentional teamkilling. Follow the rules and you'll be fine. You're playing with the fire here, so you can't be surprised you get yourself burnt.
Why is the rule there? Surely not to prevent what I did? I'll help you out - it's not there for that. It's there to prevent harmful teamkilling. That's where common sense and admin discretion steps in.
Xant, this is not the place to whine. But you really show how a lot of those who wanna remove my admin rights are failing.
First, you intentionally tked, you even admitted it. For this you were not banned, as I should have, but only got a kick. I did an error here, as I was afraid of people thinking I was doing it because you voted to remove you. Such things shouldnt afflict admins actions (even if this was the opposite of what kophka accuses me of). I shouldve banned you, and you know it.
You also know you broke the rules, still, instead of accepting the kick, or even trying to justify your actions, you start spamming about me abusing. So again, I shouldve banned you, but I muted you.
Then, you go here to whine about it, only to show how unserious some of you guys are.
Thank you.
You can't just bend the rules to your liking. The rule is clear: no intentional teamkilling. Follow the rules and you'll be fine. You're playing with the fire here, so you can't be surprised you get yourself burnt.
Also Tripp, it's not true that he is good. He is terrible, capable only of hiding till the rounds end (or else dying within the first few seconds of combat at the beginning of the round) and then s-keying like it's going out of style while spamming left and right with a long hafted blade. No dueling skill, no footwork skill, no skill period.
But even if he did, teamkilling is against the rules. And since admins are there to enforce the rules, the kick was justified.
TK'ing isn't only forbidden when it's harmful to the team but always. And: people get annoyed when they get TK'd. Swift justice avoids flamefests. Mostly...
I love the circular logic. Teamkilling is forbidden because it's harmful oh wait if it's not harmful it's still forbidden. It's a server rule yes, so what? The #1 rule is Use Common Sense. No harm was done, bing. I've never had problems with any other admins, guess they must not be enforcing server rules.
I actually said that it's not forbidden only when it's harmful, but always. Plus, I forgot to add that it is intentional TK that is forbidden. :wink:
I just can't see what you're upset about. You intentionally TK'ed, you got kicked, end of story. No admin abuse there, at all.
Xant, I suggest you stop arguing with admins for enforcing a rule stopping you from intentionally team-killing. You're only digging your already rather deep hole even deeper.
The hole of logic is deep indeed. I suggest you come take a look!
... Its about if wooki and Lilith/nuffen (me) is enforcing em right or not.
I'm not claiming admin abuse, I'm saying Lilith uses no common sense when enforcing the rules.
I think people want from you that you chill more, management by perception...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the polls about admins abusing their power?
Also, intentional TKs will definately get you trouble in the game, might be fun for you, but I'd rageban your sorry ass if I see that - or if you do it to me.If I did it to you and you'd rageban me for it, then you wouldn't be OK with it would you? That's the point - if the one getting TKd is okay with it, why is there a problem? It's a completely different case if the teamkilled guy demands a punishment.
(never said I was a good admin, that's why I usually log in without admin rights)
No, they're about admins abusing your MOTHER.
Wow Xant. Just...wow.
Stupid questions get stupid answers.
Down with the abuse, and down with you as well!
You're going down Lily, down in flames.He started 2 admin abooze threads, he is always trolling around, complaining about something (he was the only one complaining about my jousting tournament), he is just annoying and kiddy as hell, I would poll on you if I could. It would be like 70- 80 % against you.
Lilith's nomination thread looks like pure trolling.
Wookie? Yes. Why? Because I don't think we want admins serving their own interests and trolling all the time.
Lilith? No. Why? I actually like the admin he is, one that enforces the rules. While sometimes maybe a bit overreacting. He can still learn from his mistakes, Wookie clearly can't.The fish has spoken!
The I.S.P.C.A. can kiss my ass :!:
For the love of gawd i'm 100 percent sure now that Lillith will stay and Wooki will go. Lol.
This sucks tbh... :rolleyes:
Lilith is currently on a muting spree on EU1... Definitely not a good admin.
The 7-8 people who responded to the muting dont agree with you. :)
Unfortunantly i agree that both should be removed from admin postitions there decisions are based too much on personal reasons and not what the rules actually are, these two are not the only ones that do it either, most admins on this game have too many loyalties they have there clans and friends and will allow these people to go directly against the server rules while instantly banning others they dislike for slighty bending the rules.
With all that said this is NOT the way for admins to be regulated, all this does is cause conflict between the two and will only cause more harm then good, you should have senior admins that watch the other admins actions and tell that what they are doing right or wrong, as it stands right now there is no leadership and thats what you need, not a vote system to allow over inflated egos to try and remove admins.
and others even cried "abuse".
Yes the Sarcastic screams of the people who loved the fact that you got muted.
You forgot to mention all the "GOOD ONE LILITH!!" s that came after
Seriously, people with this attitude should not be allowed to vote. Did you see any of them abuse their powers? Just because some people on the forum say they are abusing doesn't mean they are telling the whole story. If you don't have personal experience with them abusing their power, there is no reason to vote against them.Yes i have seen both abuse their admin powers on multiple occasions, and i still voted NO on both because this is not the way to remove admin, i believe they should have there admin rights taken away but not this way, so you should maybe rethink you're statment and shitty attitude towards a player only expressing there opinion. Especially since you're being a hypocrit and basing what you think of me and my motivations on nothing while saying i should not be allowed to vote.
You got banned? Ha
CountBerenger: I hope you didnt vote yes because of that, because I asked cmpxchg8b first, and he agreed. :)
But hey, you know that already, as I told you when I banned him.
I didnt say it reminds EVERYONE of the chocolate chip cookie organisation SS of world war 2. I did not use the word everyone.
Also, the guy could just change his name to something less offending. He choose to not to.
i would have banned this guy too, you can't call yourself SS, it's not okay.Whats wrong whit calling yourself SteamShip? Cause SS has more than one meaning you know...
Edit: Omg Balton is trolling in here again, gtf away.
Whats wrong whit calling yourself SteamShip? Cause SS has more than one meaning you know...
Of course, the ones who voice their opinions against it get muted as well. Happened on NA yesterday. I was muted by Gash, then someone asked "Does that make you feel powerful Gash?" And they got muted as well, easy as that.reet, it was not gash who originally muted YOU, it was Gash who muted the troll after you, nor was gash the subject of the 'powerful' comment. But since what other people type is far less important to you then what you type, I understand how you could have missed that.
Also, I wasn't the only one muted.
And now you banned someone, and others even cried "abuse".
Whats wrong whit calling yourself SteamShip? Cause SS has more than one meaning you know...Servers are located in Germany, German law is pretty butthurt concerning the past. And in the case of "SS_slakt" (=butchery,killing off, slaughter) I think he didn't mean a SteamShip. Would be a pretty ugly name for a nice Steamship.
Servers are located in Germany, German law is pretty butthurt concerning the past. And in the case of "SS_slakt" (=butchery,killing off, slaughter) I think he didn't mean a SteamShip. Would be a pretty ugly name for a nice Steamship.
Lilith is currently on a muting spree on EU1... Definitely not a good admin.
Servers are located in Germany, German law is pretty butthurt concerning the past. And in the case of "SS_slakt" (=butchery,killing off, slaughter) I think he didn't mean a SteamShip. Would be a pretty ugly name for a nice Steamship.
Hello everyone. You might know me online as Juliet, or Shogunate_Chizuna.
I have friendly relations with Lilith/Nuffen, however that does not stop me from viewing the matter in a logical aspect.
I have no current relations with Wooki.
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Many kicks have been made ingame by Lilith, which is a given. In -most- of the cases it were legit. People have harassed and trolled Lilith ingame for this. "Hunter_The_Honorable" for one.
I think it is despicable that people behave like the Admin's are tools, meant to please them. They are people with emotions and they try their best to do their job. There is no point in harassing them.
Human's make mistakes. Lilith, have made mistakes. I have made mistakes, and you make mistakes.
Thing is. To me it looks like Lilith actually cares to listen to complaints and explain what is going on, in most cases.
If I were an admin, I would not like to be harassed, unreasonably. There is no reason for such a hetz.
Lilith should not be stripped of admin powers, due to the fact that he is a fair, logical person, who doesn't abuse his powers, in any way.
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I don't know much of Wooki, as I havn't seen him act much. I have heard of the ban from C-RPG of my clanmember, Georgia, but I have not seen it myself, as such I cannot vote either on him.
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Lilith should stay. Admin's can improve if given the chance. Give Lilith the chance. He cares. Do you?
An admin that can't tell the difference between an intentional TK, an unintentional TK, or doesn't know when to give the benefit of doubt when it is due shouldn't be an admin.
An admin, that doesn't understand the concepts of burden of proof, standard of proof, and rule of law (yes, admins SHOULD have fucking evidence on every ban they dish out: power demands responsibility and "too much work" is a bullshit stock excuse for autocratic behaviour) should not be an admin.
An admin that can't rationalise a situation and kicks and bans on impulse, gut feeling and other irrational grounds without justification that is clearly reasoned and supported with EVIDENCE should not be an admin.
An admin that can't differentiate between blind application of the word of rules between decent application of the spirit of rules should not be an admin.
An admin that makes assumptions, and defends their own decisions by bringing themselves above rationality (I paraphrase "Admins don't need evidence"), placing value judgements over fact should not be an admin.
An admin, whose decisions are so wild, so irrational and so broad that it's clear he makes rules up on the fly should not be an admin.
And finally, an admin that laughs on IRC on the triviality of the whole process of votes against him, who shows an utter disregard for OTHERS feelings and who lacks the maturity to stop acting like a clown in a position of power and actually take his job seriously, should not be an admin.
You start your post by talking about logic and your entire post is an appeal to human emotion. How bloody ironic.
An admin that can't tell the difference between an intentional TK, an unintentional TK, or doesn't know when to give the benefit of doubt when it is due shouldn't be an admin.
An admin, that doesn't understand the concepts of burden of proof, standard of proof, and rule of law (yes, admins SHOULD have fucking evidence on every ban they dish out: power demands responsibility and "too much work" is a bullshit stock excuse for autocratic behaviour) should not be an admin.
An admin that can't rationalise a situation and kicks and bans on impulse, gut feeling and other irrational grounds without justification that is clearly reasoned and supported with EVIDENCE should not be an admin.
An admin that can't differentiate between blind application of the word of rules between decent application of the spirit of rules should not be an admin.
An admin that makes assumptions, and defends their own decisions by bringing themselves above rationality (I paraphrase "Admins don't need evidence"), placing value judgements over fact should not be an admin.
An admin, whose decisions are so wild, so irrational and so broad that it's clear he makes rules up on the fly should not be an admin.
And finally, an admin that laughs on IRC on the triviality of the whole process of votes against him, who shows an utter disregard for OTHERS feelings and who lacks the maturity to stop acting like a clown in a position of power and actually take his job seriously, should not be an admin.
You start your post by talking about logic and your entire post is an appeal to human emotion. How bloody ironic.
Actually, you have completely mistaken me for someone else.
I was kicked for 1 TK (unintentional) at the very end of the round with a clumsy stab from a pike. I then (intentionally) stabbed Ganon with the pike for a laugh.
And this is the problem with this bloody forum. People not having the damn courtesy to get their facts right, or everyone breathing their opinions over everyone else without the proper knowledge and skills to justify it.
I think it turns lilith on to use her admin powers cos she uses it whenever it might SEEM plausible, for example me and a friend on ts where having a punching match and if anything I was the one who would have lost any health (worse armour) then she warns me no tk'ing, I say "but i didnt tk blabla" no response. Then next round we are punching again, having many lolz then she kicks me, and I was on a x4 :( I come back and ask why kick, Reply= Tk'ing. :/
She is strokin' a huge one for banning and kicking all the bitches she can, she also mutes me whenever anyone makes any point against her that makes sense, doesnt want the rest of the server to realise her flaws as an admin.
No that is me. But that wasn't the thing that caused me to be here, as I've never been kicked for polling the last man standing on roof.
The reason why I poll last men standing on roof tops? You'll love this one: because people(read, plural, i.e. not just me) get "annoyed" (read, emotional) when their time is being wasted by someone.
So I always poll the last man standing who is genuinely stringing out a round to get things moving because I take great offence to people who waste others time: actions speak thousands or words, and their actions state "my time is worth more than the other 99 people on the server".
But that's a complete tangent.
It looked very much like you got kicked for polling against him, which'd make sense.
He didn't draw out the round. It was easily accessible. He was alone against 5. It was a low building. Your poll was not justified.
I believe that was the reason you were kicked. I might be wrong on that one ofcourse, but I do think, that if that was the reason, it would be legit.
It's worth pointing out it doesn't actually matter who says what since there is a complete lack of guidance for admins so that any "reason" is enough even if it isn't a "good" reason.
And, like I said, that's not why I am here: I have never been kicked for polling the last man on roof tops. How do I know this? Because I only poll time asters when no admins are on: the admins usually kick the same people I would poll for wasting time. And this is all off topic and irrelevant anyway.
In that case you are not that person, as that person kicked a last person, -while- and admin was on.
I am sorry to have mistaken you. My posts declaring your post illegit is declared illegit and I hold nothing against it.
And, like I said, that's not why I am here: I have never been kicked for polling the last man on roof tops. How do I know this? Because I only poll time asters when no admins are on: the admins usually kick the same people I would poll for wasting time. And this is all off topic and irrelevant anyway.
I think you're giving him too much credit, I doubt he's capable of detecting when an admin is on. Plus I've seen him poll the last guy when no timewasting is going on. Make your own mind up though, of course ;)
I think you're giving him too much credit, I doubt he's capable of detecting when an admin is on. Plus I've seen him poll the last guy when no timewasting is going on. Make your own mind up though, of course ;)
lol that's like saying that you know because you know, pretty silly really.
No, its me pointing out HOW I remember it. And I know an admin isn't on because if he were I'd be kicked for polling. Logic is wonderful isn't it?
And you're going off topic.
You don't need enlightenment, just some common sense ;)
Ok.
This is kinda sad, I think. AngryScotsman, youve already admitted that the tk you got kicked for was intentional.
If anyone wanna get this confirmed, look at his own post here:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2493.0.html
So then thats out of the discussion.
Then to the poll kick that Ronrinesu is pointing out, I remember that insident. A guy was on a roof, that was VERY easy to access, on a huge front. It gave him the back free, but that was all. Angryscotsman then abused his poll-power to try to cheat his way to easy victory by poll kicking the person. In this action AngryScotsman dis an abuse that is worse than anything Ive ever done.
Hes also stated that the rules doesnt apply to him. If he wanna tk people as a joke, he is free to do that. He disregard the rules, and should not be allowed to play the game.
This is why he hates me, and he dont deserve any more answers. Please ignore him.
I admit intention on the second matter, though it was done as a joke at the end of the round. The team mate did not die. This is apparently against server rules (which may I point out were only published on this forum after I challenged this decision, someone had to copy them over from the Taleworlds forum). If that is the retrospective case, then I apologise.I just read that. Seems like you did an intentional attack on a teammate. Sounds like good evidence to me :D
I just read that. Seems like you did an intentional attack on a teammate. Sounds like good evidence to me :D
I would suggest that eu admins play a bit on NA siege server and watch how Nindurr_ATS moderate.
I would suggest that eu admins play a bit on NA siege server and watch how Nindurr_ATS moderate.
To be honest, after ppl got admin rights ingame, this game was starting to get boring.!TBH, not many people have somewhat accurate memories of what the game was like before that.
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME.
Vicious for admin!
Oh nindurr got admin now?Now yes, earlier I dont know.
He didn't have it a month ago.
The problem is, how does this process of nomination + vote differentiate between:
1) Players who resent admins exercising authority over them (justified or not)
2) Players who want to see if the process will work, out of curiosity (cats)
3) Players who have no personal experience of bad-adminship, but want to side with their friends (tribalism)
4) Players who vote based on personal feelings toward an admin, not on the quality of their admin decisions
6) Players who are affected by rhetoric or persuasive posts from people with a vested interest in the results (political campaigning)
7) Players who don't have any experience of the admin's decisions and actions, but will vote in a poll if one is put up
8) Players who have actual experience of poor decisions made by an admin, and believe for good reasons that those decisions were not a momentary error, but will continue due to the nature of the particular admin.
I have a feeling that groups 1-7 are quite large, but group 8 is very small. Maybe I'm wrong :)
Those are the problems with democracy, before this change we had a different method in choosing admins, neither is perfect but we know for sure the old method had some questionable results.
I've been meaning to ask liltih something: Why do you kick spectators that are afk? Just the other day I had to go afk for +/- 15 minutes, so I joined spectators to preserve my x5. I come back and find I'd been kicked by lilith. The server at the time had less than 30 people on. I'd done nothing wrong, I wasn't bothering anyone, I wasn't blocking people from joining the server. It was just a completely meaningless kick. It doesn't really matter obviously, lost a x5, who cares, but maybe not the best choice for a admin that's already facing losing his admin right.
Why is it that it is the 2 most active admins that are being polled? Just something to think about.
Just make Balton admin and justice will be served i'm sure.
Because Balton is campaigning against admins, I say ban him!
Also the "assholes" out there teasing admins and such only make things more difficult to them.
There are indeed a lot of 'em messing with admins... :?
Never fear, the I.S.P.C.A. has it covered.
When you go to job interview you will go thru selection process, its likely that you need good qualifications/skills/references to get the job.
In here i fail to understand on what basis admins being selected, i would rather have no admins as players can make vote decisions themselves who to kick/mute. Lets create anarchy! Fuck the power abusers!
Nice Video babelfish!
What program are you using? Vegas?
Who and what is I.S.P.C.A? And where do i apply? :o
Well, beat being kicked out for having high ping at round start, by Lilith of course. Random and silly, and has nothing to do with any rules.
Also random accusations that are not true are just random and silly, and have nothing to do with me being admin or not.
If you don't care, then shut the fuck up... omg... he is admin, you are not. Thats the rules, if he kicks spectators, rejoin and stop crying like a six year old girlie who's barbie was stolen.
Yours sincerely
Quirian
Why shouldn't the spectators get kicked?
Why shouldn't the spectators get kicked? And even if they are kicked, and are spectating, just rejoin...
Also random accusations that are not true are just random and silly, and have nothing to do with me being admin or not.
Ah yes. I did kick 4 spectators yesterday, after observing em being there for over 30 minutes. I also admitted several times on the server that this was a mistake of me because I was not aware that people kept their multiplior if they vent to spectator mode. Everyone who asked me on the channel got that answer.
Im still sorry, and Ive promised to never do it again.
But I didnt do it of arrogance, but because I was told spectators was increasing the ping. After starting a discussion about it among the admins, I was informed that its not enough to be noticed.
This tho is not an example of an admin abuse, but of an admin doing an error, for which Ive apologised for.
Sadly I don't have a screenshot of it, but I saw it and when I asked you about the kick you said "high ping". Of course, it's word against word, you're free to say it never happened.Yes, I have kicked some people with higher than 600 ping after theyve messed up on the battlefield. But never in the situation you described.
Yes, I have kicked some people with higher than 600 ping after theyve messed up on the battlefield. But never in the situation you described.
Bullshit. As if your memory is that good.
Challenge accepted.
It got a river streaming like a L through a village. 1/3rd of the village is "under" the L, and theres a small bridge leading over to the major part. This bridge continues the gate that goes stright through the whole map and ends on the foot of some hills where the attackers usually come from.
From the attackers side, you'll see farmland on left side, while there is a building on the right side. This buildings roof goes nearly down to the ground, and is very easy to jump up on.
You were 4 alive people, he was only 1. He was on this roof, probably to make sure you wouldnt sneak up from behind. He was easy to see, and as mentioned, it was very easy to jump up on the roof. Thats where you abused your power and poll-kicked him, while he was not breaking any rules at all.
The incident with the ping that bruce refers to happened at the field by river map, after watching the guy "teleporting" around making it very hard for others to play, as he never was where you should expect him to be, I kicked him for destroying the game for the others. I gave him plenty of time to fix his ping.
Didn't I say couple of posts back eveything you put forward as evidence is totally anecdotal and hearsay and not substantive at all? Yes I did.
The incident with the ping that bruce refers to happened at the field by river map,
after watching the guy "teleporting" around making it very hard for others to play
Didn't I say couple of posts back eveything you put forward as evidence is totally anecdotal and hearsay and not substantive at all? Yes I did.
No, but on ruins.
I want to marry Lilith.
Also I don't understand why [ptx] is on the poll :?
Only because Balton was griefing everyone and everything and started random nominations.
Thank god he is gone!
P.S. VOTE NO on all three!
Wookie god damn troll but always fun! <3
Lillith very strict but always tolerable
ptx never seen any abuse at all
I'm not voting on anything(for now).
I just wanted to comment something. I saw that someone was arguing with Lilith about her kicking him, thus losing his x? bonus.
Lilith said he blocked the ladders on purpose and with that slowed teams progress.
The guy kicked said it was his own ladder and that he can do whatever he wants on them.
If you ask me, both have a point.
HOWEVER, I would say neither argument is (that) relevant. The problem should have been solved by them talking about it before the actual kick, not after. Perhaps he could have gotten a warning not to block ladders even if it's his until the admin can ask other admins(or whoever) about the ruling on that.
Well, that's about it from me :mrgreen:
How is it that you can make accusations backed up by something there is no evidence it actually happened the way you are describing it, yet you expect lilith to back up her every word with proof.
Also, from what I've seen in game, you stand up to your nick, and I'm happy you were finally banned (even though for something else and only temporarily), because your flaming in game was annyoing to say the least.
Because I'm not the one in a position of power and responsibility. The moment people in a position of power stop being ACCOUNTABLE by producing HARD EVIDENCE they start being ABUSIVE of that power. He has everything to prove and me nothing: innocent until proven guilty.
Because I'm not the one in a position of power and responsibility. The moment people in a position of power stop being ACCOUNTABLE by producing HARD EVIDENCE they start being ABUSIVE of that power. He has everything to prove and me nothing: innocent until proven guilty.
Tai Feng: hurting teammates intentionally is against the rules. I didnt just notice you, I was there, I saw exactly what you did. You climbed up the ladder, ran into the hay to hide, saw others coming up on the ladder, and ran back to push em down. Its a pretty hard fall that killed about 50% of peoples hp.
For this you should have been banned, and next time I will ban you for it.
It's an honor to get your yes-vote, because it shows that Im doing something right. :)
Change the Destiny - vote NO! for removing admins today! Go go go!
I have already voted NO! - How about you?
You did'nt stand still, as i described in my post. :)
What is so hard to understand about the rules?
Are most of the offenders illiterate? or just reading comprehension challenged?
as in this last little spat with tai feng and lilith. the rules are clear. No intentional team damage. and yet all of these people always skip over the part where they screwed over someone else on their own team and point to some illogical argument that what they were doing happened to be the single most important thing on the map.
How narcissitic can you get?
I will follow the rules and that's exactly it.
Lilith escapes by 1 vote, lawl. I voted no to his nomination though.
Wookie deserved to get stripped of powers, it's a miracle that so many people still voted no. Yet justice has prevailed.
bye bye wooki :D :lol:
balton on the other hand looks banned, AND THERE WAS MUCH REJOICING
Are you actually going to sit there and tell me that destroying a ladder while your team mates were on it was not intentional? thus causing intentional team damage?
Just muted, for shame :(No, actually b&.
And yet you had to provide the 20th nomination for me, Ragnar. Tsk, tsk, people...
actually, no, as Lilith pointed out you need 51% vote, not 1 more.