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General Off Topic / Re: I ask you Europeans !
« on: November 16, 2015, 05:21:52 pm »
lmao wtf is going on in this thread.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 15, 2015, 01:07:40 am »Allahu Trapbar
Holy shit that picture in the video is sick. Too bad it's ISIS and I can't use it.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 14, 2015, 05:54:03 pm »Nowhere in the Quran is stoning mentioned as a punishment either. That came later a result of the Hadiths and as a result for many Muslims is entirely unacceptable as a punishment. Unfortunately it is upheld by the more conservative followers of Islam as they pay far too much attention to the Hadiths.
Well it's always easy being a Buffet-Muslim, because they look at the hadiths and pick the ones that are nice and peaceful. Usually the ones about how to pray. And then whenever they stumble upon the really fucked up ones, it has to be such a relief for them when they can just say Nope! and make up some excuse about how "You should not pay attention to such hadiths!" - "They're fabricated!" - "Not in the Quran lel!".
Take a chain of people that reported hadith, where they describe the life of the Prophet and his doings. You will find both hadith where the Prophet describes prayer (which is what Buffet-Muslims look for), and other hadith about where the prophet orders molten metal to be poured into criminals eyes after they've been maimed, and end up being dumped in the desert to die (which Buffet-Muslims will ignore). The hadiths are reported by the same chain of people and verified to be non-fabricated. Hypocritically the Buffet-Muslims will just pick one of them. Why? Certainly not because of objective reasons, but rather subjective reasons. Likely because it will not conflict with ethics and morals that they have derived from western secularism and humanism.
Then you have other Muslims that take their faith seriously, and will actually follow validated hadith and not "hand pick" subjectively depending on whether it conflicts with their ethics and morals. We both know that Islam without hadith doesn't work. The Quran is many times very vague, and requires hadith to be able to understand what the verses are refering to and the specifics on things like how to pray which the Quran does not describe, but still tells you to do five times a day.
What I do not understand is why a person would call himself a follower of a religion, which includes faith in a God that is omnipotent and has eternal knowledge, and then handpicks parts of the religion making it suitable to secular ideals that aren't even derived from that religion. And just to be clear, there are still messed up things in the Quran too, e.g. permission to marry a child before puberty (which the Prophet himself did in the hadith).
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 14, 2015, 03:05:37 pm »The punishment for theft isn't crucifiction.
Get your facts straight.
'As for the man who steals and the woman who steals, cut off the hand of either of them in requital for what they have wrought, as a deterrent ordained by God: for God is almighty, wise(5:38). But as for him who repents after having thus done wrong, and makes amends, behold, God will accept his repentance: verily, God is much-forgiving, a dispenser of grace.(5:39)'
If you are sorry for your crime you cannot be punished.
..What? For a starters did I ever say theft? I said robbery.
Quote from: Quran 5:53
The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter
Quote from: Tafseer al-Tabari, 10/260-261
The report narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with them both), who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) made a peace treaty with Abu Barzah Hilaal ibn ‘Awaymir al-Aslami. Some people came, wanting to embrace Islam, and they were ambushed by the companions of Abu Barzah. Then Jibreel (peace be upon him) brought to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the revelation of the punishment for killing and stealing property, which is to be killed and crucified, and the punishment for killing without stealing, which is to be killed… Whoever steals property but does not kill should have his hand and foot from opposite sides cut off. Whoever becomes Muslim, Islam cancels out whatever deeds came before it at the time of shirk.” (Tafseer al-Tabari, 10/260-261).
Quote from: Abu Dawud 38:4339
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) Said: The blood of a Muslim man who testifies that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle should not lawfully be shed except only for one of three reasons: a man who committed fornication after marriage, in which case he should be stoned; one who goes forth to fight with Allah and His Apostle, in which case he should be killed or crucified or exiled from the land; or one who commits murder for which he is killed.
The context of this verse is when some strangers came to Muhammed and converted. They were ill so Muhammed sent them to a local sheepherd who they murdered and robbed. These robbers were brutally punished by the Muslims. Crucifixion is common amongst muslims, as a punishment against apostates, robbers and murders etc.
How about you get your facts straight?
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 14, 2015, 12:48:20 pm »
Islam works like this: To be a Muslim you believe God's omnipotent, knows everything and is basically the best. Therefore if God says that a robber's punishment should be crucifixion as an example in the Quran and you would disagree saying that the punishment is wrong, then you are basically saying you know better than God and are therefore committing one of the greatest sins in Islam.
God says -> you believe it is the best. No questions asked.
God says -> you believe it is the best. No questions asked.
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 14, 2015, 11:55:30 am »Those are some harsh accusations to make without any proof, seems like you vastly oversimplified things to fit your own narrative, especially since the US has been fighting them for over 10 years, different name, same people. The last time I asked someone to show some kind of proof of this they posted call of duty screenshots.
By the way ISIS has been steadily losing territory for the last few years now, alot of those people running to Europe are probably from their former controlled areas.
Grytviken is right, USA has been fighting ISIS for over a decade. It's just that out of all the Iraqi insurgency group they became the most famous and successful group in the past years, therefore people think they just popped out of nowehere because they've never heard of them before. I really doubt the US ever trained them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Foundation.2C_1999.E2.80.932006
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General Off Topic / Re: France under attack....
« on: November 14, 2015, 01:29:28 am »
It turns out that when the SWAT team breached, the terrorists said "it's just a prank bro" and are apparantly pranksters. Everythings fine.
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General Off Topic / Re: Turkish Elections 2015 (Happening today....inb4 civil war)
« on: November 02, 2015, 03:13:08 pm »It is time to forget turkey and reform ottoman empire.
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General Off Topic / Re: What are you listening to?
« on: October 29, 2015, 10:04:42 pm »
Inspired by Sultan Erdogan Tayyip.
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General Off Topic / Re: Post your artwork, ideas, poems, and songs here!
« on: October 29, 2015, 09:59:20 pm »Are you a professional photographer or something, or is this your hobby ( if it's your hobby you should be damn proud of yourself)
Thanks, It's just a hobby. Bought the camera some weeks ago and have been following around some classmates and friends on their trips taking photos
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General Off Topic / Re: Post your artwork, ideas, poems, and songs here!
« on: October 27, 2015, 10:27:24 pm »
Thanks guys 
The weather the day I photographed was quite harsh which made it very hard to photograh and my camera took some beating. The best places to take the shots were usually elevations where the winds were so strong I had to anchor myself to the ground at times, and I had to wipe the lense between every shot due to the rain that comes straight towards your face. However the landscapes and sky was amazing. Reminds me of Skyrim. This made it all worth it.
Here's two of my favourite shots:
The weather the day I photographed was quite harsh which made it very hard to photograh and my camera took some beating. The best places to take the shots were usually elevations where the winds were so strong I had to anchor myself to the ground at times, and I had to wipe the lense between every shot due to the rain that comes straight towards your face. However the landscapes and sky was amazing. Reminds me of Skyrim. This made it all worth it.
Here's two of my favourite shots:
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General Off Topic / Re: Post your artwork, ideas, poems, and songs here!
« on: October 23, 2015, 03:35:32 pm » (click to show/hide)
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Some photos from a trip to Lapland in Sweden. Haven't uploaded all my photos to Flickr yet.
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General Off Topic / Re: Is the conflict in Syria turning into a proxy war?
« on: October 22, 2015, 08:20:54 pm »convert my old friendets
I dont know what the fuck this is
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General Off Topic / Re: Another school shoo......what? He used a sword? Lolstabber fgt
« on: October 22, 2015, 08:03:38 pm »
wtf he posed with people then the teacher was like leave my old friendet and then he stabs the teacher.