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Title: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 01:46:52 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Of6x1jGTxRo

Following already finished all cRPG FALLEN CLAN TOURNAMENT the other one follows. Invited to come is everybody - not only those that get invitation into their clan threads. But only clan members that will be able to form specified teams are allowed to participate in the event.

There will be multiple fights on one special map among multiple clans. No need to negotiate with other clans where or when or on what map to meet. Everything will happen in three sessions (qualifiers group A, qualifiers group B, finals) - if you don't qualify to finals, you will fight on 1 session only, if you go to finals, you will fight 2 times. Rankings of this tournament will be recorded and updated into a CLAN FALLEN LADDER. The finals will be probably 1 week later - so again on Sunday evening. Exact time will be given later depending on who will go to the finals.


BASIC RULES
1 - Absolutely no fighting outside the ranked tournament fights, no jumping down the tribune, no suiciding or killing teammates to regain health (if you want to regain health, rejoin via spectator). No punching or kicking of other players!!!!
2 - Clan team size is 8 people, 1 clan can form only 1 clan team
3 - Maximum ammount of members of 1 clan logged at one time on the server is 10
4 - The highest body armor you can take for the tournament is Cuir Bouilli over Mail
5 - No spawning on horse, only Tournament masters can spawn on one. Always listen to tournament masters, never hit them back.
6 - Server will be in CTF mode - if your team is called into the tournament fight you have to join the same faction as your clanmates. The first team called into the battle joins upper faction, the 2nd team called into the battle joins lower faction!
7 - If you're recording the event and you're not clan member, please appy here too so you won't be kicked.
8 - Server will be passworded, the password will appear here: bushido
9 - Common sense
10 - Maximum 2 ranged weapons / team (1 ranged weapon = 1 bow OR 1 xbow OR 1 stack of throwing weapons)
11 - No looting of any weapons from the ground (like retaking throwing weapons from the ground, shields etc...)
12 - Rules can be discussed and can change further on

REGISTRATIONS (registrations are CLOSED)
1 - Register your clan by applying in this thread - do not PM me, if you have a question, ask here so others can see the answer and don't have to ask the same thing again. Registrations are opened probably until Wednesday or Thursday.
2 - For registering: include clan name and visual style (visual style goes only to body armors while Cuir Bouilli over Mail is the highest you can take, other armor is free of choice. you can't register with the same visual style as the other clans, except for heraldic armors)
3 - When you register, include also the time you want to fight the qualifiers or include that you can fight on both times. There are 2 qualifiers both of them at the same day: Sunday 20.3. The 1st qualify round is at 17:00 GMT the 2nd qualify round is at 19:00 GMT.
4 - It is still possible to apply to the tournament and still not be allowed to participate. This can happen if you apply late when many clans will be already registered before you and/or if you apply for the same time like majority of the other clans - thuss it won't be possible to find a spot for you in the qualifying group. To prevent this: either apply quickly or make sure you can fight on both times. If you will be able to fight on both times it is highely probable that you will make it into the tournament (same goes for early applications as these have priority over those that apply late).

ALREADY REGISTERED CLANS
1 - Fallen Brigade (visual style: Sarranid Guard Armor) registered by Beauchamp (time : both possible, 17:00 GMT prefered)
2 - Mercenaries (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Noctivagant (time: pending)
3 - the Risen (visual style: Studded Leather over Mail) registered by Thovex (time: 19:00 GMT only)
4 - the Turks (visual style: Mamluk mail) registered by Abay (time: both possible, 19:00 GMT prefered)
5 - the Order of Rose (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Bifi (time: both possible, 19:00 GMT prefered)
6 - the Shogunate  (visual style: Banded Armor) registered by Shogunate_Ujin (time: both possible, 19:00 GMT prefered)
7 - Holy Roman Empire (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Krampe (time: both possible, 19:00 GMT prefered)
8 - Caravan Guards (visual style:Heraldic) registered by Lansamur (time: both possible, 19:00 GMT prefered)
9 - Ninjas (visual style: Black Lamellar armor) registered by Torp (time: pending)
10 - Strangers (visual style: Cuir Bouilli over Mail) registered by Dunecat (time: pending)
11 - Bridgeburners (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Kalam (time: both times possible)
12 - Templars (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Casimir (time: pending)
13 - Grey Order (visual style: Heraldic) registered by Erasmas (time: pending)

GROUP A - fighting time GMT 17:30 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - Fallen Brigade
2 - Bridgeburners
3 - Templars
4 - Strangers
5 - Grey Order
6 - Mercenaries

GROUP B - fighting time GMT 19:00 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - the Risen
2 - the Turks
3 - the Order of Rose
4 - the Shogunate
5 - Holy Roman Empire
6 - Caravan Guards


TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
1 - there are 2 qualifiers - Group A and Group B (A fighting on 17:00 GMT and B fighting on 19:00 GMT)
2 - the finals will be probably 1 week later on Sunday evening. probably 6 clans (3 from each group) will qualify into the finals
3 - for every killed enemy your clan gets 1 point, for victory you get 2 additional points (this means for victory you get 10 points - 8 for kills and 2 for a victory, for defeat you can get 0-7 points depending on number of enemies killed).
4 - if under any circumstances your clan fights with lower ammount of people, your missing teamates are considered as killed (other team will get points just like for killing them).
5 - the clan with the most points will qualify from the 1st position into the finals etc...
6 - if number of points is equal than: mutual duel (that already happened) and than number of deaths decide about the final rank

QUALIFIERS - FINAL RESULTS

VIDEOS (in spoiler below)
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FINALS WILL BE THIS SUNDAY (27.3.) on 19:30 GMT ON THE SAME SERVER (if it will be occupied it will be on Fallen_Tournament server instead)

The clans participating in the finals (listed according their performance in qualifiers)
1 - Risen (score 50:8)
2 - Grey Order (score 50:11)
3 - Holy Roman Empire (score 43:18)
4 - Strangers (score 41:21)
5 - Mercenaries (score 37:24)
6 - Turks (score 33:33)

TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
- Almost the same as before
- Score from qualifiers will be erased, everybody starts with a clean sheet
- Everybody fights everybody once (the same like before)
- For victory you no longer get +2 points (so for victory you get always 8) - I found out giving additional points (although reduced compared to previous tourney) is not needed, victories are often with a big difference in score anyways. So lets have closer gaps among competitors in the final table!

FINAL RESULTS - FINALS

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Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2011, 02:02:22 pm
I'M IN!!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Vibe on March 11, 2011, 02:08:11 pm
Beau, maybe you could use something like http://www.myleague.com/my/create.php?team=1 to make some sort of a cRPG clan ladder, with points from these tournaments.
Although I'm getting an error at this page trying to create a test ladder.

EDIT: Tbh there's probably better out there. This one is filled with ads.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Noctivagant on March 11, 2011, 02:15:26 pm
Mercs are ready for the challenge
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 11, 2011, 02:22:25 pm
We'll come again.

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We'll use this and preferbally 19 GMT, please.  :) mostly 17 GMT is eating time for us.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 02:33:33 pm
updated
of course xant can't come, i forgot to mention this
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Abay_ on March 11, 2011, 03:04:18 pm
The Turks will be there this time
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 03:12:34 pm
updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2011, 03:15:44 pm
updated
of course xant can't come, i forgot to mention this
Gosh darn gee willikers!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bifi on March 11, 2011, 03:17:12 pm
Order of Rose will participate
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 03:54:25 pm
updated

btw maximum ammount of participants is 12 (6 clans in each qualifying group)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Ujin on March 11, 2011, 04:00:33 pm
Shogunate will most probably participate.


P.S. Damn you Beauchamp, you took the armour i was thinking of getting. I actually have no armours to chose from ! :(  Is it possible to increase the amount of armors allowed to ~ coat of plates ?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 04:12:51 pm
Shogunate will most probably participate.


P.S. Damn you Beauchamp, you took the armour i was thinking of getting. I actually have no armours to chose from ! :(

updated
the limit on armors will probably change from tournament to tournament - sometimes a clan will benefit from them, sometimes not. its not meant directly against anybody. the idea was to give 1handers a bit bigger chance so they don't have to use short picks or warhammers against tincans.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Ujin on March 11, 2011, 04:24:25 pm
updated
the limit on armors will probably change from tournament to tournament - sometimes a clan will benefit from them, sometimes not. its not meant directly against anybody. the idea was to give 1handers a bit bigger chance so they don't have to use short picks or warhammers against tincans.
I have 7 ps on my 1hander and can easily kill tincans with a non-heirloomed sword, same when i had 6 ps. But this is a huge offtopic anyway.

 I don't wanna be an asshole and take mamluke armor (Turks are obviously going to use that) and this armour category doesn't really provide the variety of  armors with ~same stats but different looks.

I know this sounds like one big whine, i guess i'll take the banded armor since it's the best option stat-wise.

P.S. preferable time 19 gmt
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 04:32:20 pm
updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2011, 04:40:18 pm
beau are you sure i cant take part please man reconsider it wont be a tourny without xant not a proper one at least man i was so  excited about this chance to participate then you're like BAM and zing zang boom i'm out???
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 04:45:58 pm
i'm sure
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Xant on March 11, 2011, 04:48:25 pm
i'm sure

how sure, on a scale of 1 to 10?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Krakatit on March 11, 2011, 04:52:47 pm
We are going to use heraldry again (only mail due to rules). I cant get there sooner than 20:00 GMT but i think other members will be able to go sooner than that.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 05:02:38 pm
updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: krampe on March 11, 2011, 05:27:59 pm
The Holy Roman Empire whishes to join
Style: Heraldic Mail
Time: Both i think but later prefered
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 05:35:22 pm
updated
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lansamur on March 11, 2011, 07:35:32 pm
Caravan Guild ready to fight. Probably on both times, but 19gmt preferred i think. Look needs to be discussed.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 08:44:56 pm
updated

the maximum ammount of competitors is 12 (2 groups of 6 clans in qualifiers), so there are still 4 spots left.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Torp on March 11, 2011, 08:46:43 pm
Ninjas need to check up on amount of participants, but we'll try to make it
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 08:50:28 pm
Ninjas need to check up on amount of participants, but we'll try to make it

ok ty, i will keep your spot reserved. let me know the time you prefer (i count your visual style stays always the same). if you can make it with enough players on 1 time only, note it in the application. i suppose bigger clans with more members will gladly adjust their schedules according to yours.

3 spots left (+ possible substitution if one clan won't be able to make it)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Abay_ on March 11, 2011, 09:11:31 pm
We are gonna wear Mamluk Mails and both times are ok for us...(prefered 19.00 gmt+0)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Han_Hanich on March 11, 2011, 09:16:31 pm
The Strangers ready. Cuir Bouilli over Mail. Please no lags  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 11, 2011, 09:32:20 pm
The Strangers ready. Cuir Bouilli over Mail. Please no lags  :rolleyes:

updated
we should have a new map (way smaller) so hopefully no lags will appear, at least not bigger than on shogunate main server as the tournament one has the same parameters.

2 spots remaining, i wonder if some other clan will be able to find 8 players in the prime time...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 11, 2011, 10:42:41 pm
I don't think we'd be availible at 17 GMT., horrible time. 19 is much better
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Kalam on March 11, 2011, 10:52:05 pm
Application:

Clan: Bridgeburners [BRD]
Visual Style: Heraldic
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 12:26:06 am
updated

one last spot remaining
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 12, 2011, 03:33:54 am
God wills it!

A space beau. Is it availible?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Kalam on March 12, 2011, 03:45:03 am
I should note that we can fight at both times.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Dunecat on March 12, 2011, 07:02:31 am
Application:

Clan: the Strangers [STR]
Visual Style: (probably) Heraldic

Edit:
The Strangers ready. Cuir Bouilli over Mail. Please no lags  :rolleyes:
Wait, what? Don't tell me I missed armour discussion. ._.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 11:14:15 am
updated
distribution into groups and appropriate qualifying times will come shortly...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 11:28:53 am
ACCORDING TO GIVEN TIMES I JUST DISTRIBUTED THE CLANS INTO APPROPRIATE GROUPS

the dividing is not yet final as many clans haven't stated at what time they are able to fight, however those that registered lately or haven't filled yet the time favorable for them were moved into the group where they were "needed" - to 17:00 GMT.

all clans have time to raise the objections on how the distribution was done or additionally fill their prefered fighting time, however according to the fact that most of the people prefer 19:00 GMT over 17:00 GMT its more than obvious that it is not possible to take everybody's oppinion into consideration.

for now i consider only Roses and Risen to be permanently moved to 19:00 GMT group as they are smaller clans and this is the only time when they are able to fight.

GROUP A - fighting time GMT 17:00 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - Fallen Brigade
2 - Bridgeburners
3 - Templars
4 - Strangers
5 - Ninjas
6 - Mercenaries

GROUP B - fighting time GMT 19:00 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - the Risen
2 - the Turks
3 - the Order of Rose
4 - the Shogunate
5 - Holy Roman Empire
6 - Caravan Guards

registrations are still open, however if above mentioned clans will be able to find a place in a group when they are able to fight, there won't be place anymore for you in the upcoming tournament.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 12, 2011, 12:48:52 pm
Gentlemen,

Grey Order is willing to participate.
Style - Heraldic

I just hope its not too late...

Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 12:54:23 pm
Gentlemen,

Grey Order is willing to participate.
Style - Heraldic

I just hope its not too late...

updated
i'll sign you as the 1st substitute, however if everybody from above mentioned clans will be participating (which is probable, but still not absolutely sure), there won't be a place for you in this event.

registrations are closed from now on
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 12, 2011, 01:16:48 pm
Oh, pity, it means it is too late... Thx, we will get ready anyway  :(
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 01:26:26 pm
Oh, pity, it means it is too late... Thx, we will get ready anyway  :(

its difficult to guess ahead how many clans will apply. 3 qualifiers with 5 (or even 6) clans each could also be an option, but many quite big clans never expressed any desire in coming in the past so 12 competitors seemed as a reasonable maximum for this tourney to me.

(if i'd count all the clans that ever (tried to) applied, i'd get to 15 total including you, but one of them (IG) got disbanded in meanwhile - to risky to make 3 qualifiers since beginning. maybe in the future there can be even bigger than 12ish tournaments if more clans will show desire to participate)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 12, 2011, 05:47:43 pm
Beauchamp you are aware there are issues with pole arm animations when it come to overhead attacking team mates.

This could cause a problem in the tournament and i would urge you to ensure that opposing teams choose opposing factions ingame for their fights.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 05:57:06 pm
Beauchamp you are aware there are issues with pole arm animations when it come to overhead attacking team mates.

This could cause a problem in the tournament and i would urge you to ensure that opposing teams choose opposing factions ingame for their fights.

i noticed some posts and video on the forums, however i never connected this with bringing possible problems during tournament. its definitely a good suggestion, i think i will adjust the rules.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 12, 2011, 05:59:39 pm
UPDATED RULE NR. 6 - TEAMS HAVE TO BE IN DIFFERENT FACTIONS

6 - Server will be in CTF mode - if your team is called into the tournament fight you have to join the same faction as your clanmates. The first team called into the battle joins upper faction, the 2nd team called into the battle joins lower faction!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 13, 2011, 01:32:50 am
My long mauling can begin. :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 13, 2011, 11:43:46 am
i totally forgot: new poll

btw you've got time until monday for bringing objections about fighting time and your assignment into the groups
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 13, 2011, 04:22:23 pm
Beau, if we convince another team to join, will you consider making 2x7 groups?  :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 13, 2011, 04:48:16 pm
Beau, if we convince another team to join, will you consider making 2x7 groups?  :wink:

i'd be totally down for it, but unluckily there is not enough space on the server for 7 teams due to 64 player limit, this is the main problem.

well there might be enough place, but than everybody would have to be extremely organized, clans would have to come with 9 players max, there couldn't be no spectators outside clans recording it... it would be really close, i prefer to have some tiny reserve to make sure the things will work well without problems.

also 6 teams means 15 matches (everybody fights everybody in a group) which is a good system  (and it takes about  90 mins max - this is reasonable time for me), 7 teams means 21 matches  and than we could easily come into situation that the 1st tournament wouldnt be finished while the 2nd one should already start (or there would have to be another system, where not everybody would fight everybody, which again would be quite stupid).

it just won't work this time. all is preset for 2 groups of 6 since begining. sry.

for the next tourney i might make some changes so more clans can come (i didn't even expect that more than 12 would be willing to fight this time)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: MrExxc on March 13, 2011, 07:10:38 pm
My reply is fairly off topic, but during the 2 latest tournaments i've been on, I've noticed that evryone was sort of spectating, but really being quite silly and passive. Why not enable the "Q" emotes, like whistle, maybe edit it so we can have some cheering, I'd love to see an "animated" crowd. 1st tournament I remember people jumped off the wall, that was funny but really anoying. I think 3 emotes would be great; some whistling, a cheer and a "boooo".

 :D :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 13, 2011, 10:45:52 pm
I got your point, thx :(  So, we will just wait and see if everyone show up. Just in case - we'll have a team ready.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 14, 2011, 02:51:51 pm
My reply is fairly off topic, but during the 2 latest tournaments i've been on, I've noticed that evryone was sort of spectating, but really being quite silly and passive. Why not enable the "Q" emotes, like whistle, maybe edit it so we can have some cheering, I'd love to see an "animated" crowd. 1st tournament I remember people jumped off the wall, that was funny but really anoying. I think 3 emotes would be great; some whistling, a cheer and a "boooo".

 :D :D

The Q emotes are disabled for all mods except battle, only chadz can enable them.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 14, 2011, 02:58:16 pm
as nobody complained until now, this is going to be final roster for the upcoming tournament!
please don't forget to announce your visualstyle (still there is a lot of time until you have to do it)


GROUP A - fighting time GMT 17:00 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - Fallen Brigade
2 - Bridgeburners
3 - Templars (visual style pending)
4 - Strangers
5 - Ninjas
6 - Mercenaries (visual style pending)

GROUP B - fighting time GMT 19:00 (1st 3 to go into finals)
1 - the Risen
2 - the Turks
3 - the Order of Rose
4 - the Shogunate
5 - Holy Roman Empire
6 - Caravan Guards (visual style pending)

13 - Grey Order (substitute)

THE TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
2 qualifying groups - 3 best clans from each group go into the FINALS.
in qualifying rounds everybody fights everybody once
final position in a group is estimated by: POINTS, DEATHS, MUTUAL MATCH (in this order)
final position in a tournament is estimated according the same criterias so depending on ammount of points(or deaths etc...) the clans that do not qualify for finals will occupy 7th-12th place

FINALS
will be one week later
everybody will fight everybody
all points will be reset from qualifiers so everybody will fight with clean sheet
final position in a tournament will be estimated by: POINTS, DEATHS, MUTUAL MATCH (in this order) gained during final matches only.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 14, 2011, 05:42:24 pm
I'm guessing we shall just go heraldic as shogunate took banded (lolwut) and Cui bouili is taken by STR.  Woulda been nice if we could have taken brigadines as i think a lot guys already have that :P

Will these max Armour requirements apply for the second round beau?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 14, 2011, 06:00:56 pm
I'm guessing we shall just go heraldic as shogunate took banded (lolwut) and Cui bouili is taken by STR.  Woulda been nice if we could have taken brigadines as i think a lot guys already have that :P

Will these max Armour requirements apply for the second round beau?

they will aply, but you will be able to change them for the finals. you only shouldn't have the same armor as other clans will have in finals (so if come clan wont make it to finals, you can choose theirs).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Torp on March 14, 2011, 07:38:22 pm
unfortunately the Ninja is a too small clan atm, so we will not be able to assemble a team.

Sorry for saying we will participate, but i knew that i had only a short amount of time to decide wether or not we should sign up.

This will leave a new space for another clan, and i hope we will be able to participate next time
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 14, 2011, 07:59:52 pm
unfortunately the Ninja is a too small clan atm, so we will not be able to assemble a team.

Sorry for saying we will participate, but i knew that i had only a short amount of time to decide wether or not we should sign up.

This will leave a new space for another clan, and i hope we will be able to participate next time

ok ty for the notification. next time i will come up with something where also smaller clans can participate.

1st post updated (replaced ninjas with grey order)

registrations are opened again for 1 more substitute
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 14, 2011, 08:15:29 pm
Lovely  :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 16, 2011, 02:30:53 pm
Mercs and Guards still haven't confirmed their visual style

There is still 1 open place for possible substitution

The next tournament will probably be with bigger teams, smaller clans can ahead look for alliances for the tourneys (most likely 2 clans maximum to form 1 clanteam. size of a team will be 10-15 people). The ammount of LPs for winning team won't be divided if more clans join 1 team (so both of them will get full LPs) The next tournament after this bigger one will be probably individual for all cRPG players.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lansamur on March 16, 2011, 06:58:11 pm
This post will be used for our announcement of used Armor
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 17, 2011, 02:46:13 pm
DUE TO REAL LIFE ISSUES I HAVE TO POSTPONE THE 1ST QUALIFIERS TO 17:30 (still i even might be little more late than that)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: MrExxc on March 17, 2011, 03:36:18 pm
DUE TO REAL LIFE ISSUES I HAVE TO POSTPONE THE 1ST QUALIFIERS TO 17:30 (still i even might be little more late than that)

The world doesn't stop turning if you're late, take the time needed, we'll wait.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Poetrydog on March 17, 2011, 03:53:50 pm
The world doesn't stop turning if you're late, take the time needed, we'll wait.
Agreed
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 17, 2011, 09:40:32 pm
Question regarding rule 5.)


Can we spawn on horses for the fight or are the battles footman only.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 17, 2011, 10:12:19 pm
Question regarding rule 5.)


Can we spawn on horses for the fight or are the battles footman only.

footmen/women only
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lansamur on March 18, 2011, 12:54:32 am
Heraldic Mail for Guards pls. :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Rhade on March 18, 2011, 09:53:38 am
How are you guys going to fight in a tournament if all you do is run from melee?  :?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Vibe on March 18, 2011, 12:13:03 pm
How are you guys going to fight in a tournament if all you do is run from melee?  :?

Which guys are you refering to?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 18, 2011, 01:00:27 pm
How are you guys going to fight in a tournament if all you do is run from melee?  :?

if our enemies will fight like you, we will just shoot them to the back or headshot them over their shields when they get to close.
if they will fight in an organized manner we will probably come with our melee characters to fight them toe to toe.

but for sure we won't be hitting our teamates, teamkilling them, lying about it being an accident and than votekicking them like one "unnamed" retard from your clan that doesn't know how to loose...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Vibe on March 18, 2011, 01:37:03 pm
if our enemies will fight like you, we will just shoot them to the back or headshot them over their shields when they get to close.
if they will fight in an organized manner we will probably come with our melee characters to fight them toe to toe.

but for sure we won't be hitting our teamates, teamkilling them, lying about it being an accident and than votekicking them like one "unnamed" retard from your clan that doesn't know how to loose...

Ah I get it, is he one of those NA chaps who rage-quitted when you reigned over NA server with your archer squad?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 18, 2011, 03:26:57 pm
How are you guys going to fight in a tournament if all you do is run from melee?  :?

To be honest when we fought the Fallens in the previous clan tournament all they didn't do was flee.  :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 20, 2011, 02:28:27 pm
the password for the tournament is: bushido
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: AlWiS on March 20, 2011, 03:55:00 pm
good work guy
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 20, 2011, 04:58:32 pm
just a reminder, 1st qualifiers are starting in 90 minutes from now on (17:30 GMT)

IF YOU PARTICIPATE, READ THE RULES SO YOU DON'T DELAY OTHERS WONDERING WHAT TO DO DURING THE TOURNAMENT!!!


What is very important for fast tournament is to join appropriate faction = the 1st team called into the battle will join upper faction, the 2nd team will join lower faction!

When calling clans into the battle, I will also always announce the next couple of clans that should prepare so next participants can be ready ahead!

You can also spawn with a horse if you use it for transport for getting closer into the arena... kill the horse outside the arena, the fights are of course on foot
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 20, 2011, 07:34:53 pm
I managed to record some of the most interesting fights from the first round of the qualifiers, I'm processing them now.

I don't know if I'll be able to record the matches from the second qualifiers, so maybe the guys who run ShogunateTV can record the most interesting ones?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Burr1ck on March 20, 2011, 07:51:31 pm
Thanks for the games, us Mercs didn't have the perfect set-up due to innactivity of some of our members -.- . Good fights!

Also, I think I had some fps issues with the map due to it's complexity. So, please make an official tournament clan battle map using simple colours (single colour?), symetrical  design and a simple layout  8-).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: karasu on March 20, 2011, 07:55:05 pm
Yes, nice fights, even if the combat place felt a bit like "farmers fighting for their share of the crops".

Loved the attitude and effort of BRD, disregard their connections and ping, 10 internets for you kind sirs.

Cheers!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 20, 2011, 09:10:22 pm
These are the battles I recorded from the first round of the qualifiers, unfortunately I couldn't record anything from the second round, hope the Shogunates did it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8LErTMo5U Fallen Brigade vs Templars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaieKrROiQ Grey Order vs Mercenaries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUBZX1s6SY Grey Order vs Strangers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRsDCxXYRQ Mercenaries vs Fallen Brigade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D2-TmfYdTo Mercenaries vs Templars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbtu8th8wCQ Strangers vs Bridgeburners
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGqNUNjOPg Strangers vs Mercs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG73L4RBJs8 Templars vs Bridgeburners

Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Wallace on March 20, 2011, 09:23:19 pm
While I was excited for the tournament my ping was so crippling I decided having someone else take my place was a better call

Overall thanks for hosting it
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 20, 2011, 09:24:29 pm
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Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 20, 2011, 09:31:57 pm
Gentlemen,

Thank you for the fights, it was a pleasure :D  See you on finals....

PS: Nice films Punisher, next time install the bannerpack  :D

PS2: Beau, Fallen and Shogunate - thanks for organization and server.

PS3: Cant wait to see GO vs the Risen :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Belmont on March 20, 2011, 09:35:15 pm
Surprised that we are marked as 0:10 against the Risen as we definitely killed more than 3 of their members. The only that I can remember using one extra ranged weapons was in the match against the Turks and we "lost" to them and I have no problem with that as it was our fault for not reading the rules, but we did not use 3 ranged weapons against the Risen.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bjarky on March 20, 2011, 09:45:46 pm
haha, because of you shogs we got the 5th place, u gave the turks 10 points  :lol:

but all in all nice tournament guys and congratz to Risen, nice job  :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 20, 2011, 09:47:09 pm
Thanks for the fights, guys!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 20, 2011, 09:51:25 pm
some corrections will apply in risen/shogunate fight (0:10 forefeited match is a mistake), thx Belmont for notifying me and posting the server log. sry for my mistake.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Arked on March 20, 2011, 09:51:34 pm
These are the battles I recorded from the first round of the qualifiers, unfortunately I couldn't record anything from the second round, hope the Shogunates did it though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8LErTMo5U Fallen Brigade vs Templars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaieKrROiQ Grey Order vs Mercenaries
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUBZX1s6SY Grey Order vs Strangers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRsDCxXYRQ Mercenaries vs Fallen Brigade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D2-TmfYdTo Mercenaries vs Templars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbtu8th8wCQ Strangers vs Bridgeburners
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGqNUNjOPg Strangers vs Mercs

And definetly the most epic battle of the day, both teams showed great courage and determination revealing the true cRPG spirit :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG73L4RBJs8 Templars vs Bridgeburners

I have all the battles from 2nd round, bare with me.

Risen vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCZ4N3sWjw
HRE vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlnVl6rn_k
Risen vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKz3JNalyCQ
Shogunate vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fPyHGD9h8
Guards vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbP9F_s4vw
Risen vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwAi0yxH5n8
HRE vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKvyzbNPqg
Shogunate vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eGmNRmk-0
Turk vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y40nA71Tpc
Risen vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWDPcexwMpg
Order of the Rose vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IvplNwgjM0
Order of the Rose vs Risen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC8HJUPo0c
Order of the Rose vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTOQmGO5mVI
Order of the Rose vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t0N0ijM2cY
Order of the Rose vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJqYQHYgXY

2 videos are locked, im waiting for audio swap in order to get rid of dam ts chat sound. Ill fix it tomorrow.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 20, 2011, 09:53:33 pm
I have all the battles from 2nd round, bare with me.

Great :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Quirian on March 20, 2011, 10:04:05 pm
Upload them then!!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Tennenoth on March 20, 2011, 10:05:14 pm
Yeah I want to see Vikktor again, to tell if he was hacking when he was the last one...  8-)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Belmont on March 20, 2011, 10:05:52 pm
I apologize that we didn't properly read the rules regarding the use of ranged weapons. After checking the videos Arked made we used 3 ranged weapons against the HRE and the Turks and originally it was only noticed after the battle with the Turks but I talked to Beauchamp and he fixed the results, giving the HRE 10:0.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 20, 2011, 10:23:10 pm
Ok so hopefully for 1 last time...

Originaly I made a mistake forfeiting Shogunate fight against Risen as I didn't understand the teamchat properly. 2nd fix came (the one that you can see now) after Belmont told me they broke the rules also in their 1st fight against HRE.

To sum it up I have to say following:
I am no teacher so i make it short - some guys present at 2nd qualifiers should seriously consider not coming ever again into the tournament. if its not fun for you and you can't wait 3 minutes still i prefer you not to come at all. other than that of course thx a lot for coming everybody (and especially to bridgeburners that fought both enemy and the ping). i'm also sorry for being rude during the tournament, but there is no other way as i know any kindness would bring these events to hell, i even plan to be more rude the next tournament and force the rules even more. i also wonder if des nordens have to prove they belong to mental institution before being admited into their clan. i'm sure i will take some longer break before the next tournament (finals should still be the next week). and i forgot to mention i appreciate belmont's attitude a lot as he told me by himself they broke the rules (if he'd keep quiet, shogunate would make it to finals easily)

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(hopefully final results)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 20, 2011, 10:49:26 pm
I like it.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 20, 2011, 11:05:34 pm
I like it.

I bet you do  :D
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Nemeth on March 20, 2011, 11:40:58 pm
Props to you Shogunates for being fair and honest.
Now I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the videos ^^

Risen vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKz3JNalyCQ
Guards vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbP9F_s4vw

Those two videos are giving me "This video is private" page, can't watch it   :evil:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Arked on March 20, 2011, 11:54:25 pm
yes yes, u will have to wait, youtube is slow, im trying to sort this out.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: BattalGazi on March 21, 2011, 12:03:43 am
Thanks guys for the game;
* +1 to Shogunates for sharing the server
* +1 to Fallen for organization
* +1 to all clans for participation ...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Nemeth on March 21, 2011, 12:14:08 am
yes yes, u will have to wait, youtube is slow, im trying to sort this out.

Ah, alright, no problem. Never uploaded anything on youtube, so I though if it isn't maybe some checkbox checked accidentally or something like that, that can be corrected in matter of seconds ^^
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lotrix on March 21, 2011, 12:24:03 am
I've uploaded many videos on youtube very easy :? ... if u want i can help u with upload.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Tennenoth on March 21, 2011, 12:29:11 am
Props to you Shogunates for being fair and honest.
Now I'm gonna sit back and enjoy the videos ^^

Those two videos are giving me "This video is private" page, can't watch it   :evil:

He just doesn't like the Guards, tis all! :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Arked on March 21, 2011, 12:39:30 am
I've uploaded many videos on youtube very easy :? ... if u want i can help u with upload.

I dont need help. I just frogot to remove ts conversations from some of videos. Gay sound switch is taking ages.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Casimir on March 21, 2011, 12:45:56 am
Big thanks to Beau for organising and Ujin for the server.

Couldnt make it to half the fights due to the time so i must request next tourni is staged at more preferable times.

Congrats to all those who qualified and good luck in the next round.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lotrix on March 21, 2011, 12:52:47 am
I dont need help. I just frogot to remove ts conversations from some of videos. Gay sound switch is taking ages.

O,ok :lol:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Quirian on March 21, 2011, 01:42:09 am
Awesome videos arked :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Arked on March 21, 2011, 01:43:49 am
Fallen Brigade vs Templars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8LErTMo5U
Grey Order vs Mercenaries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaieKrROiQ
Grey Order vs Strangers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUBZX1s6SY
Mercenaries vs Fallen Brigade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRsDCxXYRQ
Mercenaries vs Templars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D2-TmfYdTo
Strangers vs Bridgeburners: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbtu8th8wCQ
Strangers vs Mercs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGqNUNjOPg
Templars vs Bridgeburners: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG73L4RBJs8
Risen vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCZ4N3sWjw
HRE vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlnVl6rn_k
Risen vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKz3JNalyCQ
Shogunate vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fPyHGD9h8
Guards vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbP9F_s4vw
Risen vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwAi0yxH5n8
HRE vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKvyzbNPqg
Shogunate vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eGmNRmk-0
Turk vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y40nA71Tpc
Risen vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWDPcexwMpg
Order of the Rose vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IvplNwgjM0
Order of the Rose vs Risen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC8HJUPo0c
Order of the Rose vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTOQmGO5mVI
Order of the Rose vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t0N0ijM2cY
Order of the Rose vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJqYQHYgXY

2 videos are locked, im waiting for audio swap in order to get rid of dam ts chat sound. Ill fix it tomorrow.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Captain_Georges on March 21, 2011, 02:07:02 am
math is hard
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 21, 2011, 10:17:03 am
math is hard

Jep.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: EponiCo on March 21, 2011, 11:22:25 am
Ty for the fights everyone and thanks for organizing.
Next time we are hopefully better prepared.  :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: MrExxc on March 21, 2011, 01:26:19 pm
Thx a lot for letting us participate at least...

Thx to Beauchamp, to the Shogun server and to my teammates that where there.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Sir_Bertran on March 21, 2011, 04:07:29 pm
Waiting final.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 23, 2011, 11:47:52 am
FINALS WILL BE THIS SUNDAY (27.3.) on 19:30 GMT ON THE SAME SERVER (if it will be occupied it will be on Fallen_Tournament server instead)

The clans participating in the finals (listed according their performance in qualifiers)
1 - Risen (score 50:8)
2 - Grey Order (score 50:11)
3 - Holy Roman Empire (score 43:18)
4 - Strangers (score 41:21)
5 - Mercenaries (score 37:24)
6 - Turks (score 33:33)

TOURNAMENT SYSTEM
- Almost the same as before
- Score from qualifiers will be erased, everybody starts with a clean sheet
- Everybody fights everybody once (the same like before)
- For victory you no longer get +2 points (so for victory you get always 8) - I found out giving additional points (although reduced compared to previous tourney) is not needed, victories are often with a big difference in score anyways. So lets have closer gaps among competitors in the final table!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 23, 2011, 01:20:11 pm
btw there is still some short time for changing the tournament system of the finals, so if you have some bright ideas, feel free to bring them forward.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: krampe on March 23, 2011, 01:20:47 pm
Will the map be fixed or do we hide in the hay again? =)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 23, 2011, 01:57:52 pm
Will the map be fixed or do we hide in the hay again? =)

depends on warcat, but he is quit busy, so its very probable we won't have a new map.

of course if anybody else is willing to do it, i'm totally down for that. the only thing he should put into considerations before deciding to make a new map is that i'm going to bitch a lot about how it should look.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 23, 2011, 02:03:38 pm
Beau can you add the videos from the qualifiers to the first post?

These are mine, from the first round:

Fallen Brigade vs Templars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ8LErTMo5U
Grey Order vs Mercenaries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IaieKrROiQ
Grey Order vs Strangers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWUBZX1s6SY
Mercenaries vs Fallen Brigade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mRsDCxXYRQ
Mercenaries vs Templars: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D2-TmfYdTo
Strangers vs Bridgeburners: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbtu8th8wCQ
Strangers vs Mercs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXGqNUNjOPg
Templars vs Bridgeburners: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG73L4RBJs8

And these are from the second round, from Arked:

Risen vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jCZ4N3sWjw
HRE vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rlnVl6rn_k
Risen vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKz3JNalyCQ
Shogunate vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8fPyHGD9h8
Guards vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbP9F_s4vw
Risen vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwAi0yxH5n8
HRE vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIKvyzbNPqg
Shogunate vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-eGmNRmk-0
Turk vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y40nA71Tpc
Risen vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWDPcexwMpg
Order of the Rose vs Shogunate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IvplNwgjM0
Order of the Rose vs Risen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzC8HJUPo0c
Order of the Rose vs Turks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTOQmGO5mVI
Order of the Rose vs HRE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t0N0ijM2cY
Order of the Rose vs Guards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyJqYQHYgXY
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 23, 2011, 02:16:40 pm
of course not, added! i really like Templars vs BRD fight and than Turks vs Guards.

btw if anybody is willing to do a map, the specifications should be:
- small map without to many objects, yet those present should be precisely designed/placed
- central arena (any shape you desire - square, rectangle, circle, elipse...)
- designed for CTF (meaning - spawns outside arena, flags somewhere where people can't take them)
- 1 entrance into the arena via closable gate
- entrance to the tribunes from the outside - close to the entrance gate (so you get get from tribunes to the arena quickly too)
- continual tribunes all around arena so you can walk close to the fight no matter where it is happening
- size of the arena of about this small hayfield (for sure not bigger)
- tribunes shouldnt be to high to give good look over the fights
- the map outside arena can be very simple, if to design it than only in the area between spawns to arena itself
- i don't like completely super flat maps, terrain is nowhere 100 percent flat (of course inside of the arena should be flat overall)
- invisible walls from tribunes to arena so people can't jump down
- put a big stress onto scale and design according to what is working IRL (get inspiration in real things when it comes to functionality - hockey stadiums etc..., size should match ammount of people coming etc... no need for super huge tribunes/arenas when there won't be more than 120 people spectating and not more than 15vs15 fighting etc...).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 24, 2011, 05:04:18 pm
i'm tired of clan tournaments, the next one will therefore be a completely different one, i think it will be a tournament of couples. with the system very similar to the first individual tournament. some LPS will also go to appropriate clans from those that will make it through qualifiers.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 27, 2011, 01:03:43 am
I wanted to play next tournament naked.  :cry:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lansamur on March 27, 2011, 05:01:44 am
If you need help organising things, contact me. I took a break from playing cRPG now cause it just sucks. I prolly even won't attend next tournament.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Burr1ck on March 27, 2011, 04:10:33 pm
i'm tired of clan tournaments, the next one will therefore be a completely different one, i think it will be a tournament of couples. with the system very similar to the first individual tournament. some LPS will also go to appropriate clans from those that will make it through qualifiers.

Well I'm not!

Good idea for the tournament map.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 27, 2011, 05:39:10 pm
Guys, do I understand well that the time (hour) of the tournament is unchanged despite daylight saving time change in many EU countries? 19.30 GMT, right?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Yaron on March 27, 2011, 05:53:37 pm
Is there a timer with the ETA time? coz there seems to be a lot confusion since the current GMT time should be 15:52 GMT coz of the summertime which started today ... :> means the tournement would be in ~3hrs ...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 27, 2011, 06:24:56 pm
Is anyone from the participating clans going to record it? So I know if I come to record or not.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 27, 2011, 06:27:09 pm
i was not aware of time changing to summer time, but since i already set up some time, i suppose we will stick to that (otherwise, i'd make it 1 hour earlier)

19:30 GMT is the tourney start - meaning like 3:05 hours from now on
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

is there a clan that has a serious problem with that? or did everybody expect it to be in 2:05? i have no problems to make it in 2:05.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 27, 2011, 07:52:48 pm
one last note: if you are not participating in the event or recording it, do not come to the server. the server player limit is very close to what the fighting clans need.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Tavuk_Bey on March 27, 2011, 10:41:02 pm
lol KEBAB HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM PREMISES TONITE :(
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Razzer on March 27, 2011, 11:02:04 pm
I wanna see the results nao! :shock:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 27, 2011, 11:44:00 pm
RESULTS
i counted it once only, but I hope it is ok. if you have any objection, feel free to post it.

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a note about today's event:
1 - you should at least check forums before the tourney starts (main posts are marked in orange bold or in red - its 1 min to overlook everything important). since beginning it was announced that tournament will be at 19:30GMT and i confirmed that again when some people started to talk about it + included the link to GMT explanation and ETA to the tourney. still there was a huge mess about it. i especially "appreciate" bjord's comment when i joined the server like "welcome to the one who can't organize a tournament". it really is very motivating to make more events for people like you that don't know what time is it and still bitch about it... Is HRE the only clan that reads forums?
2 - if you are lazy to read the rules (a few lines of text) you should ask at least those that know them on your TS. as i said before, its impossible to organize a lot of people if they missbehave. i'm sure some people like to hear constant punch punch punch, but i'm also sure there is way more people who are not interested to hear this sound all around and/or to listen to it in recorded videos.
3 - i decided to enforce the rules via deducting points to those that missbehave. i want a swift organized event where nobody will wait to long before fighting etc (and as well an event which won't take to much of my time) - i don't know what else should i do than to use a nasty way. looking back 5 points down was quite harsh, but as i said before, i don't know another way. i'm quite sure if i'd put 1 point down instead, it would provoke people to missbehave even more.
4 - if you have some ideas about rules or tournament system, please bring them on...
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Razzer on March 27, 2011, 11:46:38 pm
Wow that's close! :oops:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: VVarlord on March 27, 2011, 11:53:20 pm
Well played all from what i heard on teamspeak it was supposed to be a really good tournament.

Any ideas on when the next one will be?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Noctivagant on March 27, 2011, 11:54:39 pm
8:5-8:0-8:0-8:1-8:0

Achievement unlocked
STEAMROLL

GG guys
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 27, 2011, 11:56:33 pm
I have no ETA on clan tournament, but for sure there will be more, just a bit later.

The next tournament should be a tournament of couples, I hope Smasol will help me with organization of the event. There again won't be any registrations etc. But of course you can start to find your fighting buddies from now on. I think it should be melee only. Still this tourney is only "in the idea" stage atm.

and i forgot to thank to everybody who came to the event and behaved in a mature way so i'm doing it now, ty :o)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: VVarlord on March 28, 2011, 12:04:14 am
8:5-8:0-8:0-8:1-8:0

Really nice results pitty about the end result but theres always next time.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Razzen on March 28, 2011, 12:10:35 am
Really nice results pitty about the end result but theres always next time.
Altho the next ones are probably going to be 2v2, meaing it will be in couples.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Sir_Bertran on March 28, 2011, 12:41:10 am
 All simple.Noone will brake rulees, if all would be in spectators, and only fighters and admin on the field.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 28, 2011, 01:04:10 am
After speaking with Vicious666 about the tournament, Xant issue etc. I have to explain following:

When it came to the fighting itself, it is obvious that Mercs beated everybody and can easily be regarded as winners from this point of view. If you'd ask me who fought the best, I'd say that the Mercs did and I have absolutely no problem at all to admit that. They are not officialy listed on the 1st place however, because they got -5 points for killing me and so by following the official announced rules, the tournament was officialy won by Risen.

I have 1 main objective in cRPG that stands above all others - it si the Fallen clan. The tournament is in the first place for promoting us as a clan and closely in the second line it is for the fun. I almost don't care at all about anything else. I don't care about Xant, but since he pissed me off once in the tourney thread by constant trolling I said he won't be allowed to the tourneys, I won't change this decision (as i try not to change anything i say or agree on with anybody and this includes your 5 down too).

Vicious666 told me, that some Mercs think I reduced 5 points just because you were Mercs. I didn't do it because you were Mercs. I gave 10 down to turks, 5 down to grey. I really don't care who will win the tourney (except for the Brigade). If I wouldn't like Mercs to win, i don't think I'd forfeited Shogunate 2 matches in qualifiers (effectively reducing their points by 20 in the previous tournament not even allowing them to go to finals) - for the same mistake as Oberyn did before btw (*). And I believe that if i'd be standing close to Risen or Strangers and had 5 brains to follow everything what is happening around, they'd get not 5, but 50 down too. Just get over it, once its you, before it were Shogunate and I can honestly tell that I easily would punish even Brigade if i'd get a reason. I don't have problem with Mercs as a clan, if anything I only have problem with some of your members that behave imo like retards. But I have no desire to punish the whole group because I also like a few your members (however I admit they seem to be a minority for me).

You also said that you maybe won't come to the next tournament. In the end its up to decision of everybody if he wants to come or not. If you don't like the tourneys for any reason, than of course don't come. On the other hand if I'd get a choice if I want to see Mercs in tourneys or not, I'd of course vote for the first option (as well as most of the other people would i hope).

B.


* shogunate matches were forfeited because i announced ahead that breaking rules of the fighting will result in this. before i didn't announce that so mercs/grey fight was only repeated.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: DarkFox on March 28, 2011, 01:11:11 am
Are there going to be a video of tournament? :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 28, 2011, 01:12:10 am
All simple.Noone will brake rulees, if all would be in spectators, and only fighters and admin on the field.

i didn't like in the begining the idea, because i like to see the audience around the fights. but i'm strongly considering that this will be probably the best way.

teampunching is not to big problem, there are way "bigger" things how to break tournament rules. but i'm afraid if one guy will be allowed to teampunch, the others will follow and the whole tourney will turn to punch punch punch fest. there is imo nothing inbetween - either allow to punch everybody or not punch at all.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: HarunYahya on March 28, 2011, 01:28:02 am
Thanks for organising tourneys Beau.
We will never serve kebabs to the guy with the wedding dress from now on. (Dammit Holy_Diver !) :evil:
Congratulations Mercs !
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Storm on March 28, 2011, 01:31:36 am
Thanks Beauchamp for making this a nice tradition and something different from the alldaily cRPG grind. I can imagine, how big a bitch it is to organise such a big event with the dreaded cRPG community. I can say at least for myself, that I had very fun times.

However, I still don't get the tournament system... mabye it's not fully developed yet. ;)

And congratulations to Risen for the end result, I guess you earned it.

And so seriously noone recorded those matches? Not that I would have loved to see our matches again, but I especially want to observe the match between Greys against STR again. It was so epic and with a great twist at the end.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 28, 2011, 01:35:14 am
Thanks Beauchamp for making this a nice tradition and something different from the alldaily cRPG grind. I can imagine, how big a bitch it is to organise such a big event with the dreaded cRPG community. I can say at least for myself, that I had very fun times.

However, I still don't get the tournament system... mabye it's not fully developed yet. ;)

And congratulations to Risen for the end result, I guess you earned it.

And so seriously noone recorded those matches? Not that I would have loved to see our matches again, but I especially want to observe the match between Greys against STR again. It was so epic and with a great twist at the end.

it is not, its changing every tourney a bit. i think we're like half way done until everything will work fine atm.
btw what exactly you don't understand, maybe after everybody fights the same ammount of matches is should announce the score?
anyways if you have some ideas on what to make better, bring them on.

for now for the next event i think that idea with spectators will be given a go....
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Sir_Bertran on March 28, 2011, 01:40:01 am
Storm, yep, we wish to see this match too.

Unfortunately, we already slept in the tournament beginning. 24.00 jn Moscow time, however fight with mercs has forced us to wake up, and pass to actions in CHAAAARGE stile.  :rolleyes:


BTW, STR likes turnament very much, and beg gods about new trips, with larger teams, couse it's very sadly and extreamly hard to choose few players when many whants to play.

So, we wish to play with 10-16 players in team in next time..(32 vs 32 - best option, but it's to muck for moust part of clans.)


I condole The Grey Faction, you have deserved 3ed place. However, it is a good lesson to all of us - the discipline is not less important than might.  :P
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Erasmas on March 28, 2011, 01:55:03 am
Congrats to the winners, great job!

Next time we will make sure that all our guys are on 30th lvl  :D

Beau, Fallen, Shogunate, again thanks for organizing the tournament, we need more such events... Sorry for breaking the rules (if any), we will discuss that internally  :twisted:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Jambi on March 28, 2011, 02:05:33 am
Damnit, why did i retire into a fail HA... and why, do i have a family that distracts me from the more important stuff on sundays :D

Hopefully in time i will have time on sudnays for tournaments.... and honestly im going back too foot archer next retirement.

Anyways, thanks Beauchamp for organizing this stuff. Hopefully te tournament gets too see Jambi for jsut once, before it ends :P
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lansamur on March 28, 2011, 09:23:26 am
i didn't like in the begining the idea, because i like to see the audience around the fights. but i'm strongly considering that this will be probably the best way.

teampunching is not to big problem, there are way "bigger" things how to break tournament rules. but i'm afraid if one guy will be allowed to teampunch, the others will follow and the whole tourney will turn to punch punch punch fest. there is imo nothing inbetween - either allow to punch everybody or not punch at all.

I think that comes down to how every clanleader disciplines his group. In the qualifiers, as soon as I saw some of my clanmates starting a fistfight, I called them to order and they followed. That's why there is TS. At least the clanleaders should be  expected to have heard and read the rules to a level that they can tell the general gist of it to the team, no matter if asked or not, and also enforce them on their clan. I did that at least and we had no problems afterwards, except for the random punch here and there.

Otherwise I agree with the idea of leaving everyone in Spec while the teams called to fight are the only ones spawning
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Vibe on March 28, 2011, 09:29:59 am
I think that comes down to how every clanleader disciplines his group. In the qualifiers, as soon as I saw some of my clanmates starting a fistfight, I called them to order and they followed. That's why there is TS. At least the clanleaders should be  expected to have heard and read the rules to a level that they can tell the general gist of it to the team, no matter if asked or not, and also enforce them on their clan. I did that at least and we had no problems afterwards, except for the random punch here and there.

Praise Lansamur, for his words are of wisdom!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Punisher on March 28, 2011, 09:58:58 am
Seriously nobody recorded anything? :o It was a bit late for me and I assumed someone from the participating clans will record at least the most interesting fights so I didn't come.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Han_Hanich on March 28, 2011, 10:35:22 am
My slaves let me down, and i'm going to kill them and i'll buy new...  8-)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: [ptx] on March 28, 2011, 12:20:27 pm
Beau, Vicious666 is not a diplomat of our clan ;d
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: LordBerenger on March 28, 2011, 12:44:28 pm
Beau, Vicious666 is not a diplomat of our clan ;d

Imagine if he would've been :-)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Olwen on March 28, 2011, 02:05:50 pm
as long as you understand that a clan and a member isn't the same thing it should be allright, though i don't think that we have more tards than other clans, they're just maybe more known and better than other's ^^

this tournament is following your rules beauchamp so well, it is how you want it to be,

at least it allowed our clan to show that even if we were a bit rusty in the beggining we are the best in the end
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Quirian on March 28, 2011, 02:06:30 pm
I really like your tournament :)

Thank you for doing this!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 28, 2011, 02:42:37 pm
as long as you understand that a clan and a member isn't the same thing it should be allright, though i don't think that we have more tards than other clans, they're just maybe more known and better than other's ^^

this tournament is following your rules beauchamp so well, it is how you want it to be,

at least it allowed our clan to show that even if we were a bit rusty in the beggining we are the best in the end

Hehe, we were missing quite some key players in the end battles.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Torp on March 28, 2011, 03:33:23 pm
The ninjas will be back next time - stronger than ever.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 28, 2011, 03:34:16 pm
updated the ladder thread
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,2080.0.html
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bjord on March 28, 2011, 03:36:12 pm
Hehe, we were missing quite some key players in the end battles.

Ragni, Melas, GTX and Razzen - what are you talking about?

They're your best players.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 28, 2011, 04:15:01 pm
Ragni, Melas, GTX and Razzen - what are you talking about?

They're your best players.

Narim, Argeleb, Xineas, aswell I wasn't in that battle.

Argeleb and I had to go after 2 matches, Narim had horrible ping couldn't let him play (700+) and Xineas couldn't attend.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Olwen on March 28, 2011, 06:32:08 pm
well ... we all are key players in the Mercs but i wasn't here too thovex :x
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Phazey on March 28, 2011, 06:55:38 pm
Well it's your tournament and y'all can do whatever you want, but i'll keep saying we won. If your 'score system' says otherwise, it needs tweaking.  :wink:

Also: i'd recommend the referee use words, instead of slashing people from a mount... i thought Beauchamp was trolling or bored or something. Never saw anything in chat, to be honest.
Keep in mind, chat scrolls up. You might need to repeat yourself once or twice...

Anyway, fun tournament. Good job on organising it.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 28, 2011, 07:12:50 pm
Well it's your tournament and y'all can do whatever you want, but i'll keep saying we won. If your 'score system' says otherwise, it needs tweaking.  :wink:

Also: i'd recommend the referee use words, instead of slashing people from a mount... i thought Beauchamp was trolling or bored or something. Never saw anything in chat, to be honest.
Keep in mind, chat scrolls up. You might need to repeat yourself once or twice...

Anyway, fun tournament. Good job on organising it.

The score system says otherwise because you went wrong in the Qualifying rounds where we barely lost someone and in the finals you went much better than us, so in fact the score system works fine.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Olwen on March 28, 2011, 07:18:24 pm
following beauchamp's rules we lost it ^^ following strategus rules we won it, i think it's what matters ^^
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bjord on March 28, 2011, 07:34:04 pm
The score system says otherwise because you went wrong in the Qualifying rounds where we barely lost someone and in the finals you went much better than us, so in fact the score system works fine.

Obviously Phazh was talking about the -5 deduction. Which caused us to lose, and you to win.

And if you want to talk about facts; we beat you in the final round of the finals tournament. That speaks for itself. As for excuses, to each and his own ;).

In regards to the qualifying rounds, using your words; many of our "key" players didn't play either.

@Beau: Thank you for arranging this tournament, shame about the deduction but I guess you did what you thought was necessary. I don't know if we'll come the next tournament as many of our members were quite unhappy with your decision. Maybe you'll make sure everybody knows the rules so they don't break them next time. (As I'm sure none of us were aware of this "no-punching" rule.)

Looking forward to similar events.  :wink:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Nemeth on March 28, 2011, 07:36:13 pm
Also: i'd recommend the referee use words, instead of slashing people from a mount... i thought Beauchamp was trolling or bored or something. Never saw anything in chat, to be honest.
Keep in mind, chat scrolls up. You might need to repeat yourself once or twice...

Yes, because Beau is always like that, joking around during the tournaments, slashing people for fun... right? Saying it in chat is pointless as people were spamming the chat the whole time. If you don't get that when the guy who organizes the tournament rides up to you and slashes you after you act like an idiot means you did something wrong, well that's your problem. Just use common sense.

PS: The tone of the post might be a bit aggressive, so no offense.

EDIT:
@Bjord - Just because you are too lazy to read the rules of a tourny you play in doesn't mean Beau should make sure you know them. It's not hard to read the few lines in the OP. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 28, 2011, 07:42:40 pm
I don't know if we'll come the next tournament as many of our members were quite unhappy with your decision.

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Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Gurnisson on March 28, 2011, 07:56:36 pm
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Don't act like a prick. It will be damaging to the tournament, a major team not participating, and you (should) know that. Now get off your high horse and accept that.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bjord on March 28, 2011, 08:02:45 pm
@Bjord - Just because you are too lazy to read the rules of a tourny you play in doesn't mean Beau should make sure you know them. It's not hard to read the few lines in the OP. Ignorance is not an excuse.

So am I lazy or ignorant? Which is it?

I'm talking about in-game. If we were doing something that was violating the rules, it would have been nice of him to formally inform us in the chat instead of a bump and a slash(which says nothing in manners of communication). Any other host would have issued a warning before the punishment. You don't punish someone and warn them afterward, this is not kindergarten - we understand words.

But it's all in the past. I'm sure everyone learned lessons from this tournament. We won't be punching anymore, and we'll be more apprehensive toward rules.

Don't act like a prick. It will be damaging to the tournament, a major team not participating, and you (should) know that. Now get off your high horse and accept that.

It's not my decision. If majority of our members feel negative toward participating, of course we will not.

I'm not even on a horse. :lol:


My bad, I thought that was directed to me (no idea as to why). Sorry!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Phazey on March 28, 2011, 08:15:06 pm
I just dropped into that tournament, we fought five battles and won them all nicely... three times we had a flawless victory even.... So i figure we won. :wink:

I wasn't away of the punching rule. Nor did i punch anyone. However, i did slash at beauchamp when he rode in on his horse and slashed a teammate.
Also, you might have noticed i spawned with my horse a few times. Didn't know that was against the 'rules' either. Next time i'll walk. You can penalize us as much as you want though. Who cares anyway. :lol:

I'd recommend keeping tournaments simple and making sure the scores of the battles matter, not some administrative mumbo jumbo with points, referees giving penalties, etc. But that's just my 2 cents. Do whatever you want.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Olwen on March 28, 2011, 08:16:50 pm
My bad, I thought that was directed to me (no idea as to why). Sorry!
It's obviously because you're used to hear people telling you that you're a prick :)
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: v/onMega on March 28, 2011, 08:18:10 pm
So am I lazy or ignorant? Which is it?

I'm talking about in-game. If we were doing something that was violating the rules, it would have been nice of him to formally inform us in the chat instead of a bump and a slash(which says nothing in manners of communication). Any other host would have issued a warning before the punishment. You don't punish someone and warn them afterward, this is not kindergarten - we understand words.

But it's all in the past. I'm sure everyone learned lessons from this tournament. We won't be punching anymore, and we'll be more apprehensive toward rules.

It's not my decision. If majority of our members feel negative toward participating, of course we will not.

I'm not even on a horse. :lol:


My bad, I thought that was directed to me (no idea as to why). Sorry!

Mercs won it on the field - Thats what counts for me atleast.

Ability to read is something different - Doesn´t have to do anything with ingame skills.

GG - Big thanks to Beauchamp -
Last tournament for me for now since I just dislike teams bigger than five.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Jarlek on March 28, 2011, 08:19:26 pm
I just dropped into that tournament, we fought five battles and won them all nicely... three times we had a flawless victory even.... So i figure we won. :wink: That's all i'm gonna say about that.

Now, please don't start insulting eachother. Nemeth, saying 'no offence' doesn't make it okay to call people idiots. I was there; we behaved fine and weren't disruptive at all.
I wasn't away of the punching rule. Nor did i punch anyone. However, i did slash at beauchamp when he rode in on his horse and slashed a teammate.
Also, you might have noticed i spawned with my horse a few times. Didn't know that was against the 'rules' either. Next time i'll walk. You can penalize us as much as you want though. Who cares anyway. :lol:

I'd recommend keeping tournaments simple and making sure the scores of the battles matter, not some administrative mumbo jumbo with points, referees giving penalties, etc. But that's just my 2 cents. Do whatever you want. I haven't read the scoring system though.
So you wouldn't mind me running inside during the fights, horsebumping people and killing the one who keeps score? Cause that wouldn't disrupt the event at all since we only need to look at kills right? Of course this would also apply if everyone did it too.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Bjord on March 28, 2011, 08:27:26 pm
So you wouldn't mind me running inside during the fights, horsebumping people and killing the one who keeps score? Cause that wouldn't disrupt the event at all since we only need to look at kills right? Of course this would also apply if everyone did it too.

I'm sorry but how does this correlate at all with what he said?

You're implying that unless you don't punish people with point deductions, people will run into the field and misbehave?
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Torp on March 28, 2011, 08:38:06 pm
stop spamming this thread please...
take that discussion over PM, in IRC or in spam forum.

not here
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 28, 2011, 08:39:38 pm
about the rules and who won from what point i expressed myself already enough, spectating will hopefully solve most of the problems (i personally just don't like people doing any silly stuff and i think if its not limited in begining, it will become unmanagable in the end). still if anybody is willing to organize some event with more loose rules, he is free to do so.

still feel free to bring on thoughts about anything that needs a change. a new map would be also nice but so far nobody seems to be willing to spend any time on making it.

next tourney will be 2v2 (with even people from different clan can be in a couple). some bigger clan tourney should be after that.

i will keep this thread unlocked as it will make the next tournament even more spicy  :twisted:
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Phazey on March 28, 2011, 08:45:06 pm
Oh Zapper, i don't know you and i don't really wanna respond. But here goes:
No, i don't want anyone to run into any fight and disrupt anything. Nor do i want the person keeping score to be killed. Like i said, he just rode over, slashed some merc and we, out of sheer reflexes and conditioning, without thinking... i guess we killed the referee. I thought it was kinda funny though.

Now, if you want to maintain that that means you've 'won' because of that... well... congratulations.  :|

And again, thanks a lot for all your hard work Beau. It IS appreciated. Don't wanna sound ungrateful for all the work that must have gone into that.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Daergar on March 28, 2011, 08:45:33 pm
Much appreciated Beau, looking forward to it! Having suffered through the ordeal that is organizing ladders and tourneys in other games, hat's off to you for continuing. Especially in the crpg community, which as we know is on the youthful and whiny side of the spectrum.

Oh, and mercs, you won. Have my trophy, cookie and eastern european hooker. Bear in mind, one of those are not real!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Nemeth on March 28, 2011, 09:21:45 pm
So am I lazy or ignorant? Which is it?

I'm talking about in-game. If we were doing something that was violating the rules, it would have been nice of him to formally inform us in the chat instead of a bump and a slash(which says nothing in manners of communication). Any other host would have issued a warning before the punishment. You don't punish someone and warn them afterward, this is not kindergarten - we understand words.

But it's all in the past. I'm sure everyone learned lessons from this tournament. We won't be punching anymore, and we'll be more apprehensive toward rules.

Those two conditions are not mutually exclusive.
And again, use common sense. The warning was the slash, the punishment was point deduction (can't belive I actually have to explain that to you). You can argue about the proper way of delivering the warning, but ultimately, it's up to Beau. If he sees fit to slash you, you should probably accept it or face the consequences (as you did).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Storm on March 28, 2011, 10:57:41 pm
Meh. I respected Risen. I like many of your guys and also your playstyle was ever appealing. Also we had a really nice fight imho, which was on the tip with us having a 3vs3 after the first clash.

But you really don't have to wonder, why Mercs are in a tempered mood right now. We were trying to be calm about this, because we know, what we achieved, but seriously you can't ask us to be all nice if Razzen, Greifenherz and Thovex post such BS in their and our clanthread imho. I never thought, that you guys were as arrogant as to be proud of a victory, which you didn't really clearly earn. Ok, I might got carried away here, cus Berengar is being the biggest dick there.

Anyways, this matter can only be solved with a neat clan battle.

@Beau: Well if the word tournament comes up in a mind, I mostly think of tournament styles often observed in professional sport. So if you prefer a league system, make a large league system only with a clear winner of points at the end of a season. If you prefer a more tournament-friendly system, I recommend the groups system, which you actually used as well, but just with another system for the finals. I thought 3rd of first group would have faced 1st of second group and so on with a K.O. system (think world cup).
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Lennu on March 28, 2011, 11:08:32 pm
Grats for winners and grats for those who didn't lose a match  :D

About breaking the rules, the penaltys were given and everyone can think for theirselves if the enforcement was needed or not.
In my opinion by participating the tournament you are expected to know the rules, and agree to them.  And also think for your own and your clans reputation, and how will acting like a fool effect it.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Thovex on March 28, 2011, 11:23:16 pm
But you really don't have to wonder, why Mercs are in a tempered mood right now. We were trying to be calm about this, because we know, what we achieved, but seriously you can't ask us to be all nice if Razzen, Greifenherz and Thovex post such BS in their and our clanthread imho. I never thought, that you guys were as arrogant as to be proud of a victory, which you didn't really clearly earn. Ok, I might got carried away here, cus Berengar is being the biggest dick there.

In fact, I'm not having problems with winning or losing in any aspect, maybe from your point of view we lost, that's fine by me in fact I agree with that.
but please don't shove the deeds all our fault, I just mentioned the points were not going to be in the mercs favor on your thread, the only thing I got is Bjord bitching about it, which I can't help.
Neither can I control all my members posts, everyone has their point of winning, guess there are 2 winners: the winners who won point wise and the winners who won without losing a match

This clan tournament feels like a bit of practice to me, even though I couldn't even attend, maybe we should all on both sides stop acting fucked up towards eachother, since I agree as well that I was acting like a bitch and should not have been done, sorry for that.

Now let's congratulate each other with two victories and eat some cake?  :)

Anyways, this matter can only be solved with a neat clan battle.

Yep, although looking at the score we might want to do some more training.  :wink:

these posts are really hurting your thread?  :?
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19.msg59892.html#msg59892
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,19.msg60230.html#msg60230

Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Vibe on March 29, 2011, 07:36:52 am
Just drop it boys and save the hatred for strategus.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: VVarlord on March 29, 2011, 10:45:42 am
A thread lock would be +10 internets right now.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Mustikki on March 29, 2011, 12:31:01 pm
a new map would be also nice but so far nobody seems to be willing to spend any time on making it.

i have started to make a new arena map for you :)

Just tell me what you want to get added on it.


Here is some what i have done so far. a Duel and normal Arenas.
I was thinking to make a big Arena, a cavalry fight arena and a cavalry race arena there aswell.

(click to show/hide)


and here is the download link: http://www.mbrepository.com/file.php?id=2716

CTF (Flags) are not accessible on the map

You can freely use the map
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Torp on March 29, 2011, 01:24:49 pm
several arenas on the same map will just give us another big map :D

I'd maybe suggest a map with a big arena and other one with some smaller ones?

Anyways, it's not me who is making it, so you should just do as you want - i just think that it would be better.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Nemeth on March 29, 2011, 02:13:47 pm
One huge map with several arenas caused massive lags in the second tournament. I think several smaller maps with only one arena would be better. But ultimately, it's up to you/Beau ^^
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Mustikki on March 29, 2011, 03:14:11 pm
If thats the case, then the map would be finished.
As the 2 arenas are so slight they won't reduce any fps.

The spawn points are between 2 arenas and there is barriers on walls, so every fighter have to use the correct entrance to enter the arena.

See the page 12 bottom for pic and dl link.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 29, 2011, 06:22:43 pm
i think those lags caused by a map are overestimated. nobody lags on ruins, field by the river, village... and these are some really quite big maps. (the distar tournament map we were using was huge, but i mean it really was HUUUUGE, that was the problem).

i don't think its necessary to have shitloads of arenas (nobody will ever use them), i'd rather prefer a few arenas and fine tuned with nice decorations around them and spawn, thats all.

for now we agreed on 2 same sized small arenas for very small fights (that can take place at the same time so people won't wait inbetween fights so much) and 1 arena that is already built (its size is perfect). for now i can't imagine i'd need anything else.
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 29, 2011, 06:31:55 pm
btw Fallen_Punisher has a surprise for you, another clan tournament!
Title: Re: all cRPG CLAN FALLEN TOURNAMENT (number 03)
Post by: Beauchamp on March 29, 2011, 07:59:55 pm
we've got new tournament, so this thread is no longer needed.
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,3403.msg61108.html#new

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