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Title: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on March 02, 2014, 06:10:03 pm
THE LIBERE EQUITES CLAIMS
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Bhuluban, Tulbuk, Dirigh Aban,Tulbuk castle, Sungetche castle,Ichamur

Diplomant: Lecram, Atze

Stragusleader:  Lecram, Atze

UPDATE:
Everyone who is in our territory without any permission will be attacked
Atze is the new Co-Strategus-Leader
At war with HRE
Trade agreement with OdE is UP
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Dolphin on March 03, 2014, 12:03:57 am
GOD DAMNIT !!!!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Austrian on March 03, 2014, 06:56:13 pm
@ Eques: GL, HF :)
@ Dolphin: Poor you, but don't worry get in my arms and everything will be fine
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Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Jony on March 03, 2014, 07:12:26 pm
Small area you mark  for an  active clan :P
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: SirCymro_Crusader on March 03, 2014, 07:21:59 pm
Small area you mark  for an  active clan :P

Bold text for one so Grey
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Man of Steel on March 03, 2014, 07:22:59 pm
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Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Bittersteel on March 03, 2014, 07:32:41 pm
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Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Jony on March 04, 2014, 06:17:02 am
Bold text for one so Grey

Just i like the awesome view of  bolded black text  ;)

Also i prefer more battles in EU, don't care  who is more powerful! More battles = more fun! I want more fun until i'm still playing  :P :lol:
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Man of Steel on March 05, 2014, 06:45:56 pm
Today we got our 2nd Village thanks to everyone who showed up!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on March 07, 2014, 09:45:32 pm
update
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fredom on March 07, 2014, 11:24:34 pm
Seems like you're growing... That's nice to see. Sometimes I get pretty mad because the whole enemy team is Eques_ but on the other hand it's good to see that your clan really grew that fast. I did not really expect that. Good luck in the future!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: FRANK_THE_TANK on March 08, 2014, 12:22:58 am
I, Frank, find your claims fanciful, more over I find your statement of attacking anyone who enters also fanciful. Good luck to you, may all your men die pointlessly in glorious battle.

Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on March 08, 2014, 07:17:30 am
Seems like you're growing... That's nice to see. Sometimes I get pretty mad because the whole enemy team is Eques_ but on the other hand it's good to see that your clan really grew that fast. I did not really expect that. Good luck in the future!
Thank you :-)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on March 08, 2014, 07:17:56 am
I, Frank, find your claims fanciful, more over I find your statement of attacking anyone who enters also fanciful. Good luck to you, may all your men die pointlessly in glorious battle.

Thank you Too :-)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on March 28, 2014, 01:42:04 pm
update
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 02, 2014, 08:58:20 pm
Update
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Tactical_One on April 02, 2014, 10:06:00 pm
Take some castles /Cities. Good luck in strat, you got many very skilled players in clan.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 02, 2014, 11:21:18 pm
Takesome castles /Cities. Good luck in strat, you got many very skilled players in clan.

Ty
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 06:44:20 pm
Thank you for giving me the motivation to not leave strat and instead try to fuck with you again in every way i can.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Latvian on April 04, 2014, 06:48:29 pm
what ? you are still at war?
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 06:50:26 pm
what ? you are still at war?

We had a ceasefire to put everything we can into the fight vs drz, but obviously by attacking Ada Kulun it's over.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 04, 2014, 08:50:27 pm
We had a ceasefire to put everything we can into the fight vs drz, but obviously by attacking Ada Kulun it's over.

U said u would give me the fief anyway .by the way i offered u 30k for it. u accept. After that u attack my fief? And now when i attack one of ur fiefs and u are angry? We lost our TS because of your attack...
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 10:17:42 pm
U said u would give me the fief anyway .by the way i offered u 30k for it. u accept. After that u attack my fief? And now when i attack one of ur fiefs and u are angry? We lost our TS because of your attack...

No. I offered kinngrimm 30k. If you'd had the balls to talk for yourself things might have been different. If you didn't bitch about me rostering against you once, promising us to roster against us 100% after it, things might have been different. Those 30k were offered to you so long ago, so it won't matter at all now. We put that war on a hold for the greater good and i thought you would do the same. Now, Ada Kulun is too important for us to give it up, so offer me something real good for it and we might be able to make a deal. The 50k you send me as an offer right now is an insult considering how much money you will get by owning that fief, not to mention you should talk about a deal BEFORE you attack anything.

Next offer needs to turn the $$$ on in my eyes, otherwise we're gonna throw ourselves at you with everything we have.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 04, 2014, 10:22:50 pm
No. I offered kinngrimm 30k. If you'd had the balls to talk for yourself things might have been different. If you didn't bitch about me rostering against you once, promising us to roster against us 100% after it, things might have been different. Those 30k were offered to you so long ago, so it won't matter at all now. We put that war on a hold for the greater good and i thought you would do the same. Now, Ada Kulun is too important for us to give it up, so offer me something real good for it and we might be able to make a deal. The 50k you send me as an offer right now is an insult considering how much money you will get by owning that fief, not to mention you should talk about a deal BEFORE you attack anything.

Next offer needs to turn the $$$ on in my eyes, otherwise we're gonna throw ourselves at you with everything we have.

Meh u didn't even claim ada kulun, but we do, since the begin of this strategus round.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: serr on April 04, 2014, 10:32:35 pm
And some people still think that UIF wins because of better tactics, organization, etc...
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 10:33:32 pm
Meh u didn't even claim ada kulun, but we do, since the begin of this strategus round.

Now even you talk like kinngrimm. Your new to strat, so it's okay. But understand: Claiming a fief doesn't make it yours unless it's actually yours. We got it first, then you acted like whiny little kids about that roster-thingy and then i made a fake deal with kinn. I'm definitely not saying that i acted nice here, but that's just the way it is and i had my reasons.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 04, 2014, 10:37:49 pm
Now even you talk like kinngrimm. Your new to strat, so it's okay. But understand: Claiming a fief doesn't make it yours unless it's actually yours. We got it first, then you acted like whiny little kids about that roster-thingy and then i made a fake deal with kinn. I'm definitely not saying that i acted nice here, but that's just the way it is and i had my reasons.

So what were ur reasons?
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 10:48:46 pm
So what were ur reasons?

I just told you 2 posts ago?!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Man of Steel on April 04, 2014, 10:50:36 pm
Fips i don't understand you go and attack the fiefs you claimed and why don't you leave Eques Ada Kulum, they claimed it and need it more then you. They are new to Stretegus help them. Give them Tipps etc. And attack DRZ or Grey if you want a war.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kinngrimm on April 04, 2014, 11:05:23 pm
@Fips
1) Ada Kuluhn is a standing claim of Eques, by that they have already a Casus Belli
2) They have another Casus Belli, still standing as far as i know, since you attacked Eques
3) a Cease Fire, is not peace. There was not an agreement i am aware of which would have caused to nullify the Casus Belli as those do not just go away without satisfaction. You owe Eques, not the other way round.
4) When i was on your teamspeak, i made myself clear that i am negotiating for Eques as they asked me to do so in their name. So the 30k deal for Ada Kulun(which HRE got for free) was agreed on. As you but then instead of keeping your word, attacked Eques, that lead to the impression that deal is off. Eques freely offering you now 50k and 500 troops, for something they claim in the first place and you also already stated were expecting to be retaken, is rather gracious of Eques, no idear what you are making a big fuzz of now.

Now even you talk like kinngrimm.(a compliment )
Your new to strat, so it's okay. (condacending)
But understand: Claiming a fief doesn't make it yours unless it's actually yours.(arrogance)
We got it first, then you acted like whiny little kids(insulting) about that roster-thingy and then i made a fake deal with kinn(admiting to be a liar).
I'm definitely not saying that i acted nice here, but that's just the way it is and i had my reasons.(hidden motives)
Well who would have guessed ...  :lol:
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: serr on April 04, 2014, 11:08:33 pm
Come on, who cares about these stupid Casus Belli...
If you want to attack something you attack it, if not - you don't, very simple. You don't need Casus Belli to do that.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 11:17:13 pm
@Fips
1) Ada Kuluhn is a standing claim of Eques, by that they have already a Casus Belli
2) They have another Casus Belli, still standing as far as i know, since you attacked Eques
3) a Cease Fire, is not peace. There was not an agreement i am aware of which would have caused to nullify the Casus Belli as those do not just go away without satisfaction. You owe Eques, not the other way round.
4) When i was on your teamspeak, i made myself clear that i am negotiating for Eques as they asked me to do so in their name. So the 30k deal for Ada Kulun(which HRE got for free) was agreed on. As you but then instead of keeping your word, attacked Eques, that lead to the impression that deal is off. Eques freely offering you now 50k and 500 troops, for something they claim in the first place and you also already stated were expecting to be retaken, is rather gracious of Eques, no idear what you are making a big fuzz of now.
Well who would have guessed ...  :lol:

Ah lovely, you found this thread.

1) Yeah, in that twisted mind of yours this is a casus belli.
2) Yup.
3) Um...maybe every single faction throwing themselves at DRZ while Eques didn't do squat and now WE owe them? ha!
4) Lololol, 50k is nothing. We were busy fighting drz and still made more money than that in a few days.

Very far from being a compliment; kind of condacending; arrogant? that's just a fact; true, but i only lie to people i don't like; not hidden if you'd actually read more than 1 post
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kinngrimm on April 04, 2014, 11:43:28 pm
1) Yeah, in that twisted mind of yours this is a casus belli.
Well when someone would take a claim of me and wont give it freely, even though when asked nicely, hell yes.
...
3) Um...maybe every single faction throwing themselves at DRZ while Eques didn't do squat and now WE owe them? ha!
let me get this straight, HRE an oldtimer in terms of Strategus, attacked Eques a new faction, failed badly but still costs a smaller faction ressoruces, then attacks DRZ and because of that expects gratitude of everyone else? wow we just reached a hole new level of crazy hear  :shock:

4) Lololol, 50k is nothing. We were busy fighting drz and still made more money than that in a few days.
it is a gesture, which still says , they dont want war, but they want what is theirs, so well you can take it and be satisfied ... or not.

..., but i only lie to people i don't like; ...
you calling my mind twisted  :rolleyes:

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Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 04, 2014, 11:52:19 pm
By failing badly you mean we lost one battle. There would have been more to come but then Grandmom started his crusade, so yeah. Everyone just left everything behind and the ones who didn't owe everyone else for keeping UIF far away from their fiefs. Simple as that.

And again, they asked once, we attacked them and then i never heard of them wanting the fief again.


Why the hell is it twisted to lie to people you don't like?
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 04, 2014, 11:59:16 pm
By failing badly you mean we lost one battle. There would have been more to come but then Grandmom started his crusade, so yeah. Everyone just left everything behind and the ones who didn't owe everyone else for keeping UIF far away from their fiefs. Simple as that.

And again, they asked once, we attacked them and then i never heard of them wanting the fief again.


Why the hell is it twisted to lie to people you don't like?

Fips do you see that map on the first page?
Under the map i wrote my claims...
So do you think i dont want these fiefs?
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 05, 2014, 12:06:41 am
Fips do you see that map on the first page?
Under the map i wrote my claims...
So do you think i dont want these fiefs?

Yes, i do. But it's still just a claim, nothing more. If you are being serious about it and actually wanted to make a deal, how about you simply ask again? But no, you just attacked it. Not sure why you would expect me to just give it to you after this. Especially for just 50k.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 05, 2014, 12:11:13 am
HRE being shit bags like last strat.

Though last strat was them being shit bags as part of larger coalition.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Bittersteel on April 05, 2014, 12:31:27 am
Kinngrimm reminding me why i never liked him beside his shitty shield build.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 05, 2014, 01:05:55 am
You just forget one think,

For about 2 1/2weeks HRE Attacke my village for no really good reason and NOBODY cared ab out that, now i have enoth troops and eq to  make a reattack, and everyone is crying, and Flaming now...
Don't forget:
 HRE Attacke me first, they dont really need this fief, they got 3 more villages, they said they are just waiting for drz bear to get eaten, so i think they don't really care about that. And now everyone is Flaming because i make my revenge? Yes i don't have much exp in Start like the must readers of this threat, but i think its just fair. yes sorry that i don't gave troops, but when nobody tell me WHERE i should give the troops, i don't know what u want guys...
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 05, 2014, 01:25:59 am
Ehm wut, 2 1/2 weeks?!
All that happened in this war was ONE attack.

The informations you currently have are are so outdated. Yes, we wanted to wait for DRZ to make the first move. But then Grandmom got everyone together (and you received those pm's as well and even responded to them quite positive) and well, operation desert storm began. Now we got pushed out of the desert again and NOW you attack, when everyone is  weakened from wasting troops down there. It's a shame that kinn doesn't keep you updated, since Fenris was part of this, at least to some degree.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 05, 2014, 01:27:14 am
Ehm wut, 2 1/2 weeks?!
All that happened in this war was ONE attack.


Accully two attackes :-)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lt_Anders on April 05, 2014, 01:30:47 am
Accully two attackes :-)

Battle lists or it didn't happen!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Darkoveride on April 05, 2014, 01:44:34 am
if you count the 200 unarmed attacking your reinforcements to block them i guess two attacks is accurate. Personally it needs to be a fight to count for me.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kowcioo on April 05, 2014, 12:01:29 pm
Is it just me, or most of the posts in this thread sounds like kids talking about their toys? Lecram, maybe I am not the kind of a really intelligent person here, but your posts sound like the most retarded shit ever. No insulting of course, I am just trying to be honest. About the war and diplomacy - I don't care, shut the fuck up and fight instead, that's what I say.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on April 05, 2014, 12:25:03 pm
Haze claims every village that is in posession of Eques. Now they are legally mine and i can attack as i will to take what is legally mine.

Dashbigha, Tulbuk, Dirigh Aban & Bhulaban:
CLAIMED!

Sry Templols didn't notice one of those villages was yours.  :oops: :rolleyes: :lol:
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Jacoby on April 05, 2014, 05:01:37 pm
Well Tulbuk was my claim in the beginning of strat. So it mean i can come and take my claim then?
This is no Sarcasm just a simple and humble Question.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kowcioo on April 05, 2014, 06:29:32 pm
Haze claims every village that is in posession of Eques. Now they are legally mine and i can attack as i will to take what is legally mine.

Dashbigha, Tulbuk, Dirigh Aban & Bhulaban:
CLAIMED!

Sry Templols didn't notice one of those villages was yours.  :oops: :rolleyes: :lol:

That's totally what i meant.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Spurdospera on April 05, 2014, 07:26:30 pm
but I have had personal claim over ada kulun for like a year now :/ it´s my village that I heroically defended against HESHEYs rape army last strat... :)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on April 05, 2014, 07:54:53 pm
but I have had personal claim over ada kulun for like a year now :/ it´s my village that I heroically defended against HESHEYs rape army last strat... :)

Filthy finn! It's my village and i won't allow any trespassing on my lands starting of NOW.

Eques pack your shiet and leave or face horrible and painful death.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 05, 2014, 09:05:46 pm
If u want ada kulun, than go there attack it if it's make u happy accully i don't really care about that village, so much trouble, u just need some poor newbs than u can beat, becuase drz and go are to heavy for u...

I will overwrite my claims, so everyone is happy, i don't claim : ada kulum, nelag castle, hanun anymore... And everything is like before, aye?

I let HRE one day to leave the village and transfer it to me.. Oh he didn't told u? And I let fips transfer 50k silber to one of his members form the village
Than there was just a little population and no army inside. Fips told that he just waited that drz attack him, so why should he than need this village

Another piont is the Kalmar support:
I good my members to apply, but when the attackes where in shitty times i cant hell them, don't forget that is a Game not the reallife, so the RL Goods always before a fucking Game... I wanted to give the troops Kalmar, but when im not invited in this message thing i don't know where i should go, just when i hear "welcome To the Party" and not where i should go, furter that the mate i gave the troops wasn't interested anymore to play strategus and all my other members where in the trade Route..

Don't think we are pros like everyone here, that my first strategus round, so instand of saying we are gone rap u cus  u newb!

Thing about that, before u gona rape me :-)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Tyr_ on April 05, 2014, 09:24:42 pm

Don't think we are pros like everyone here, that my first strategus rund, so instand of saying wie are gone rap u cus  u newb!

Thank about that, before u gona rap me :-)

Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 05, 2014, 09:36:06 pm
We need what few allies have the power, experience and balls to help us to not be attacked by 'neutrals' or 'allies' or whatever it is that you are. Remember who re-opened hostilities the moment the desert campaign ended, it wasn't HRE or us. Whoever told you that you could attack HRE without any of us wanting to help them made a big misjudgment, they were dead wrong and you should think twice before taking their advice again.

I love new players, i want to give them every opportunity, ask and we'll help you, but not against HRE. But not at the expense of our current allies, being new has nothing to do with it; whether it's a new faction or a 4year Strat veteran making a huge misjudgment our response would be the same. We're in this together, if you let this be the case, if you work against us then we will have to take measures. If you wanted guidance on how you could help us then why not send Grandmom or myself a PM? You could have done that at any time and we'd have gladly sent you a reply, your help would have been welcome.

If you don't want to be raped by Druz or Greys your best chance is with us. I don't think many of the northern factions are taking this point very seriously. No faction wants to stay active if they don't have a war to fight, so your choices are to fight our enemies or fight us. Some factions take the easy way out and leave the Northern Alliance (i see a great many OdE traders moving freely through Grey land, i wonder what's happening there lol), others are not made aware by the more experienced players that an attack on HRE at this time is the same as helping UIF. Enough with the leniancy and wishy-washy nonsense that has characterized us so far trying to be the 'good guys', i'm not saying 'Your with us or against us', there are 3 options:
1. Join us and fight UIF
2. Fight us, and regret it
3. Or remain neutral and find another neutral to kill, ask someone reliable before you attack.

Tell me what u want, if i can do it, i will do
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 05, 2014, 10:06:27 pm
Form my side i have no problems to stop fighting with HRE, i took my revenge, that was all i want just a reattack. (Eye for an Eye). Now it depends on Fips how its going in.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Latvian on April 05, 2014, 10:43:50 pm
i as neutral person declear truce between your factions. Now it is time to start attacking UIF. Godspeed!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 06, 2014, 02:22:26 am
Form my side i have no problems to stop fighting with HRE, i took my revenge, that was all i want just a reattack. (Eye for an Eye). Now it depends on Fips how its going in.

Lol. Well, if your going to give us back Ada Kulun without any troubles i'm not going to give you anymore and i will go back to the original plan that i had before you attacked us.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: zottlmarsch on April 06, 2014, 12:21:56 pm
How about when neither of you have Ada Kulun because Druzhina take it whilst you guys are still throwing your toys at eachother.

Come on guys, sort it out please...

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Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Lecram on April 06, 2014, 12:33:51 pm
Well, Ada Kulum got attacked and i dont know if i can hold it... so i can't give it to you sorry :/
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 06, 2014, 01:50:58 pm
Also, if you want to pull this, you probably should not have a village with 4k troops within 1, maybe 2 hour reach (with quickmarch).
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kinngrimm on April 07, 2014, 01:44:50 pm
Also, if you want to pull this, you probably should not have a village with 4k troops within 1, maybe 2 hour reach (with quickmarch).
and while you are in diploamtic talks with Bjarky and Grandmom to find a peacefull solution, positioning an army over night close to Ada Kuluhn, does not help your credability either.

We made you an offer.

a) The 300k, which you named as price, over a period of 3 weeks, 200k within 2 weeks and 100k within 3 weeks.
b) we agreed on a NAP, which you wanted
c) a trade offer was made which you declined, but you want instead to be able to use Ada Kulun for trade till the 300k are in, we countered that offer that you can use another fief with even higher sell price which you refused.


Now that you are so keen on selling in Ada Kuluhn, why is that? There had been not so many HRE traders been seen at Ada Kulun in the past weeks, but quite some Bubastan, who stole S&D in the north and sold there or at other HRE fiefs, while Bubastan attacked many in the north and stole their S&D. You stated to me your are allied with them. How about HRE attacks Bubastan from now on and i would give you 300k straight away.

Then you dont need to wait for the money, Ada Kuluhn can be used by Seljuks, we can all be a happy family. On the other hand when you would not attack Bubastan, that only shows me you have still the long term plan at hand , to disrupt the north, instead of making a trade deal, you still holding a grudge because of the past and not being able to go past that. I did not act on this shit till now , what was going on in the north over the past weeks, but i am done with that now.

People wondering why the north was not supporting DRZ attacks ^^, well if you got S&D raided all the time by Merc(alts/supporters) or Bubastan, then your prioraties are more at home. I accuse HRE and Bubastan to disrupt the factions in the north in their efforts to build up. Only due to long talks with Grandmom, they were letting partly go from that but not compettly and only due to long talks between Grandmom and me, i let it go. I wont now anymore, only a few days ago attacks on Order de Montesa. You want to tell us Bubastan is acting complettly alone and without the concent of HRE? BS, prove it and start attacking Bubastan which would head north. You accuse UIF of holding hands all the time, well you are doing the same thing here.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: serr on April 07, 2014, 02:03:43 pm
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People wondering why the north was not supporting DRZ attacks ^^, well if you got S&D raided all the time by Merc(alts/supporters) or Bubastan,

Wow, now I really regret we didn't do that instead of suicide attacking drz.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 07, 2014, 02:37:47 pm
and while you are in diploamtic talks with Bjarky and Grandmom to find a peacefull solution, positioning an army over night close to Ada Kuluhn, does not help your credability either.

We made you an offer.

a) The 300k, which you named as price, over a period of 3 weeks, 200k within 2 weeks and 100k within 3 weeks.
b) we agreed on a NAP, which you wanted
c) a trade offer was made which you declined, but you want instead to be able to use Ada Kulun for trade till the 300k are in, we countered that offer that you can use another fief with even higher sell price which you refused.


Now that you are so keen on selling in Ada Kuluhn, why is that? There had been not so many HRE traders been seen at Ada Kulun in the past weeks, but quite some Bubastan, who stole S&D in the north and sold there or at other HRE fiefs, while Bubastan attacked many in the north and stole their S&D. You stated to me your are allied with them. How about HRE attacks Bubastan from now on and i would give you 300k straight away.

Then you dont need to wait for the money, Ada Kuluhn can be used by Seljuks, we can all be a happy family. On the other hand when you would not attack Bubastan, that only shows me you have still the long term plan at hand , to disrupt the north, instead of making a trade deal, you still holding a grudge because of the past and not being able to go past that. I did not act on this shit till now , what was going on in the north over the past weeks, but i am done with that now.

People wondering why the north was not supporting DRZ attacks ^^, well if you got S&D raided all the time by Merc(alts/supporters) or Bubastan, then your prioraties are more at home. I accuse HRE and Bubastan to disrupt the factions in the north in their efforts to build up. Only due to long talks with Grandmom, they were letting partly go from that but not compettly and only due to long talks between Grandmom and me, i let it go. I wont now anymore, only a few days ago attacks on Order de Montesa. You want to tell us Bubastan is acting complettly alone and without the concent of HRE? BS, prove it and start attacking Bubastan which would head north. You accuse UIF of holding hands all the time, well you are doing the same thing here.

HRE own(ed) 2 fiefs. 1 of which we had basic equip and one where we sold AND bought our goods. Jeezuz, why does noone get that 3 weeks of no Ada Kulun is a major kick in the moneymaker. Prosperity is high, tax is high and Dusturil is worth nothing when it comes to getting s&d. We don't have a big ass alliance where i can just buy goods as i please, i backed down from Kedelke and Bulugur and now there's not even Ada Kulun anymore.
Yes, if you had those 300k in Dustu within a few days i'd take a castle and get my trade going from there and then help templols take tulga.

Guess why we couldn't concentrate on trade in the last weeks. WE WERE BUSY FIGHTING DRZ. So we allowed Bubastan to use our s&d, as well as other traders that came around.

The alliance with Bubastan is long over. All that EVER happened between the two of us was them giving us 20k in the beginning to kickstart our trade and we gave them a thousand troops. Since then there was absolutely no exchange of troops or goods whatsoever.

And guess what, from what i know, Bubastan are free to attack whoever. So, naturally, they try to disrupt the ones they don't like/hate the most. So congratulations, they hate you more than drz and grey order.


You said you got those 300k ready, so send them my way and this discussion is over. Seljuks can do whatever the fuck they want and i'll take Distar Castle or even Tulga, depending on what templols want.
If you want to keep those 300k hidden for another 3 weeks you will have to deal with us retaking Ada Kulun. And Seljuks are probably respeccing it right now, so better decide quickly. Last chance for you to get the steppe peaceful again.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Spurdospera on April 07, 2014, 04:09:25 pm
People wondering why the north was not supporting DRZ attacks ^^, well if you got S&D raided all the time by Merc(alts/supporters) or Bubastan, then your prioraties are more at home.
Well, I can see that you made huge effort to keep us out of north... whole 0 attacks from fenris to Bubastan.

Bubastans battle archive from past 12 weeks in spoiler
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Darkoveride on April 07, 2014, 04:12:21 pm
Its simple enough, diplomacy in Bubastan is done on a player by player basis. Leadership has not controlled the diplomacy since the early days where we tried to established ourselves and ended up fighting kapi's for land.

The only standing order is not to attack HRE's Fallens or GK members (unless provoked). Aside from that we have no dealings with HRE expect , when i offer advice but that's on a personal basis.

ALL DEALS ARE SUBJECT TO INDIVIDUALS AND DON'T APPLY TO THE FACTION.

ALL ATTACKS INDIVIDUALLY DECIDED WITH THE RAIDER IN QUESTION SORTING ROSTER AND COMMANDING.

I personally couldnt care less what fips or other HRE's want and i have made that clear to fips, we will do whatever we see fit for us to have good fun battles.

This will not change and any of our members are free to leave the faction if they dont agree with this and some have.
We had no interest in getting involved in a anti uif this round we have been playing that way for a long time, i think we earned the right to play a different way.

If you wish to discuss further come find me in coalition ts , if im not here ask the chop chop , arnwald or rogue. they'll be able to get hold of me.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: serr on April 07, 2014, 04:16:36 pm
Why don't you rename yourself to wataga? :)
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Darkoveride on April 07, 2014, 04:23:39 pm
cause we have goats.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: serr on April 07, 2014, 04:26:08 pm
So, Wataga + goats - Ivani4 = Bubastan? :D
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Darkoveride on April 07, 2014, 04:27:07 pm
it would appear so, wish we had Ivani4 tho
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Butan on April 07, 2014, 05:28:17 pm
Quality thread.


As one of the proud citizen of Bubastan, I declare all steppes to be goat pens under control of Bubastan members.
Anyone currently inside the borders may or may not be attacked randomly on an individual basis. Also concerns people outside the borders.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: SanGliers_Hautecourt on April 07, 2014, 07:30:20 pm
Anyone currently inside the borders may or may not be attacked randomly on an individual basis. Also concerns people outside the borders.
Then, anyone may be (or not) be attacked, everywhere on the map  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Bittersteel on April 07, 2014, 07:35:51 pm
You cracked the case, Sherlock!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kinngrimm on April 07, 2014, 08:30:08 pm
all done , move along
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 07, 2014, 08:33:14 pm
all done , move along

Still hate your guts, though!
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: kinngrimm on April 07, 2014, 09:12:01 pm
Still hate your guts, though!
piss off
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Bjarky on April 07, 2014, 09:34:08 pm
that love, i feel moist :3
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Fips on April 07, 2014, 09:49:08 pm
that love, i feel moist :3

that word makes me all moist, too.

Moist. <3
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on April 08, 2014, 07:28:37 am
it would appear so, wish we had Ivani4 tho

Last time i saw Ivani4 he was wondering the lonely mountains of west corner! Was thinking of paying him a visit (had some crates) but the mountain pass and icy rocks got the best of my men. Now i'm sincerely sorry for even thinking of this vile action towards Ivani4!  :twisted:
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: Darkoveride on April 08, 2014, 02:50:02 pm
Even nature protects ivani4 what can we do against such a well connected man.
Title: Re: Libere Equites
Post by: buba on April 08, 2014, 05:10:52 pm
Guess why we couldn't concentrate on trade in the last weeks. WE WERE BUSY FIGHTING DRZ. So we allowed Bubastan to use our s&d, as well as other traders that came around.

The alliance with Bubastan is long over. All that EVER happened between the two of us was them giving us 20k in the beginning to kickstart our trade and we gave them a thousand troops. Since then there was absolutely no exchange of troops or goods whatsoever.

And guess what, from what i know, Bubastan are free to attack whoever. So, naturally, they try to disrupt the ones they don't like/hate the most. So congratulations, they hate you more than drz and grey order.

We (most of us) dont hate Kingrimm and his puppets, their just the weakest on the map and the easiest to pick on atm.