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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2011, 06:04:50 pm »
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Knowledge is power.  An informed player base is a better player base.  I like that the OP has taken initiative to get more information about something that can truly and utterly DESTROY the game (see APB example).  Not addressing this is a best way to destroy the game and mod completely.

If he didnt, he should have gone thru official channels to get his tests sanctioned.

I agree with this completely, the OP has done us all a favour. This would ruin the game.
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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2011, 06:17:29 pm »
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I am also in support of admins testing this so they can make good perma bans on these players.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2011, 06:24:11 pm »
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pretty much you quoted what i already writed on the hack thread.


only way to kill is counterspam by double attack than lateral movement, or try to chamber/glitch etc.        easy to spot also becouse he parry/follow your attack even when you are clearly outside your reach range,  a thing that normal player not do -.- becouse is pointless

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2011, 06:35:20 pm »
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This is the copy of the first page of some obvious google search about this :

Code: [Select]
        .model TINY
        ;JUMPS           ; without this, see caveat under 8086 above

NONE        = 00h       ; use this for no features
PRINTZOOM   = 01h       ; printout and beep features
MODECHANGE  = 02h       ; support video mode change?
SPEED       = 04h       ; use 386 instructions for speed
STARTCOORDS = 08h       ; use starting coordinates (instead of 0,0)
HIRES       = 10h       ; use hi resolution (single mode version only)

; choose the desired features from the feature list above, and OR them
; all together as shown below:

FEATURES    = PRINTZOOM OR MODECHANGE OR STARTCOORDS OR SPEED OR HIRES


if (FEATURES AND SPEED)
        .386
endif

ifdef (FEATURES AND HIRES)
  VIDMODE   = 12h       ; use mode 12h
  PIXWIDTH  = 640       ; ... which is 640x480
  PIXHEIGHT = 480
else
  VIDMODE   = 13h       ; use mode 13h
  PIXWIDTH  = 320       ; ... which is 320x200
  PIXHEIGHT = 200
endif
TEXTMODE    =   3       ; our exit video mode (80x25 color text mode)
ZOOMLIMIT   =  13       ; can change to up to 13 for extended zoom in

VIDEO_INT   = 10h       ; BIOS video services interrupt
 WRITE_PIXEL = 0Ch      ; write pixel video service
 WRITE_CHAR  = 0eh      ; write char in TTY mode video service
 CHANGE_MODE = 00h      ; change mode video service

KEYBD_INT   = 16h       ; BIOS keyboard services interrupt

; ASCII codes
EXTENDED    = 000h      ; no ASCII code for extended key codes
BELL        = 007h      ; the ASCII bell char to make a beep
CR          = 00dh      ; a carriage return character
ESCAPE      = 01bh      ; the escape key
PLUS        = 02bh      ; ASCII code for '+' key
V_KEY       = 'v'       ; ASCII code for video mode switch

; keyboard scan codes
MINUS       = 04ah      ; scan code for gray '-' key

; feel free to experiment with the following constants:

DELTA       = 100       ; the unit of pan movement in pixels
THRESHOLD   =   4       ; must be in the range of (0,255)
STARTSCALE  =   7       ; a number from 0 to ZOOMLIMIT, inclusive
STARTX      =-DELTA     ; to the right by 1 delta unit (STARTCOORDS feature)
STARTY      =-DELTA     ; down by 1 delta unit (STARTCOORDS feature)
CHAR_COLOR  = 0fh       ; white on black background (for PRINTZOOM feature)

        .code
        org 100h

(Nah, don't post stuff like this here -Vargas)

With this and several people saying it works, well... I think it is and I hope it will be adressed. Or else it might aswell be the end of M&B:Warband and WFAS multiplayer. It looks like shields become neartly useless with this thing on. I wondered why so much people were playing 2h or polearm, when the last patch nerfed 2h. Now I got a clue about that.

This is just awful... I played with attack and blocks only (no feints, no footwork, no chamber...) during literally months of Native multiplayer, when the average community was WAY less skilled (and cheated) than now and good blocking was enough to have great k/d. Now when I have to fight like this (enemy spammer), I usually loose because it's fucking boring.
« Last Edit: May 09, 2011, 07:09:13 pm by Vargas »

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2011, 06:45:46 pm »
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Knowledge is power.  An informed player base is a better player base.  I like that the OP has taken initiative to get more information about something that can truly and utterly DESTROY the game (see APB example).  Not addressing this is a best way to destroy the game and mod completely.

If he didnt, he should have gone thru official channels to get his tests sanctioned.

Off topic:

APB was originally destroyed long before it even hit beta thanks to the company making it becoming completely incompetent. Players being completely free to hack didn't help anything of course. I'm very happy it's been given a second chance, and GamersFirst seems to actually be putting care into it.

On topic:

I never touch any hacks, even for curiousity's sake, precisely for what's been stated here. When it comes time to hand out the bans, why you were hacking will not be their concern. That's a mighty risk to take.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2011, 06:49:57 pm »
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I agree, I should have obtained admin approval before I tested this hack, but in fairness I tested it before any admin statements about it were made because I wanted to see how game-breaking it really could be. The reality isn't as grim as I imagined but it's not exactly rosy either. I hope now that I've created this thread describing a few techniques to spot/beat the hack nobody will test it without a developer/admin giving them explicit approval to do so.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2011, 06:50:23 pm »
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There's an obvious solution : we create a @home idle time reuse program that justs DDOS this TKC bullshit...  :D

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2011, 09:11:39 pm »
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Be Gash.

Use auto-block.

Get beat by someone in a duel.

Complain about it and ban said duelist.

Profit!!!!

Bitch, admin.

I already PMed you about this. Don't play innocent.

You we're caught red-handed by two admins who were doing spot-checks that night.

Don't even bother.
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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2011, 09:43:01 pm »
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I've never come across an auto-blocker, but if it works anything like the in-built auto-blocking, it should fall easily enough to feints from over-committing.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2011, 10:48:21 pm »
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Or else it might aswell be the end of M&B:Warband and WFAS multiplayer

dont u worry about that, it will never happen. CS managed to get out of a rly deep shit where 50% of players were cheating. A good anti-cheat program and problem solved.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2011, 11:11:03 pm »
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if all this autoblock nonsense is true im definetley  out of this mod for good.

And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2011, 12:12:50 am »
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Should be moved to Guides BUT I WILL LET THIS PASS FOR NOW.

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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2011, 05:23:38 am »
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I wondered why so much people were playing 2h or polearm, when the last patch nerfed 2h. Now I got a clue about that.

I'm pretty sure it has more to do with:
2hers/polearms are better in melee combat - More damage, more reach, often the same or faster speeds than 1hers (when used with shields)
Elitism - Shields are "scrub" and 2hers/polearms are "pro".  True story
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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2011, 05:35:18 am »
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If auto block hacks do get removed/spotted, I'm going to lol at those master players who suddenly suck at the game for no apparent reason.


I've never come across an auto-blocker, but if it works anything like the in-built auto-blocking, it should fall easily enough to feints from over-committing.
Much of BRD says this, I've noticed. How do you guys know so well? :?
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Re: How To Spot The Auto Block Hack And How To Defeat It
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2011, 06:11:27 am »
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Should be moved to Guides BUT I WILL LET THIS PASS FOR NOW.

isn't guides where threads go to die?  :lol:
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