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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 01:06:38 am »
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343,000 Garrison 41 million silver on NA versus 919,000 Garrison and 173 million Silver.

Hands Down, NA won strat.

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2163 attacks, with 1,560,000 dead. 721 killed per attack

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3951 attacks with 1,860,000 dead 470 killed per attack.
Therefore: MORE XP from NA than EU.

I must say your constant downgrading of EU strat and advertisement of NA strat gets really irritating.

Not sure what youre seeking for by doing this, even if NA is ten times better EU players are gonna play on EU coz playing with 200 ping against 20 ping is not cool.

Also great job Butan, too bad most of the winners are winners thanks to annoying others with their cheating and multicc and duping so much that the competition just left. Doing one ban wave of multiaccs per strat while giving just few weeks ban for multiaccounting is just....funny.
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 01:09:53 am »
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Butan give us more statistics!!!  :D
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 01:14:08 am »
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I must say your constant downgrading of EU strat and advertisement of NA strat gets really irritating.

Not sure what youre seeking for by doing this, even if NA is ten times better EU players are gonna play on EU coz playing with 200 ping against 20 ping is not cool.

Also great job Butan, too bad most of the winners are winners thanks to annoying others with their cheating and multicc and duping so much that the competition just left. Doing one ban wave of multiaccs per strat while giving just few weeks ban for multiaccounting is just....funny.

It is hard to handle the truth. Blame yourselves for your inability to actually "DO" shit in strat. To much Defense Meta Game in EU. NA says fuk that and, unless AFK, rarely camps. In fact, we invented the "XP battles" this round that you EU tards failed hard to realize. Can't even Give XP to yourselves cause your heads are so far up you ass.

Takes a End of round wipe to actually make you use troops up instead of camp 24/7
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 01:27:42 am »
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 01:29:57 am »
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It's just because NA has always been less involved in strat than EU. EU has been stuck in the same alliance blocks since the first strategus. NA has by far been the more dynamic and fluid side of the map, relations actually change there because people seem less stuck in their history. It definitely seems a much more interesting game but maybe that's because there are less players or the map is smaller.  There was a lot more block building in NA relations this time around than their ever has been before. Seems that this iteration of strategus was most suited for that kinda stuff, although independents and small factions had their best chance here since strat 1.
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2013, 01:36:00 am »
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I see, youre just a troll

Common way to ignore and down play someone, when said person has no facts for support of their opinion.

Despite having more troops, more gold, more fiefs, more, well everything, EU has only managed to LOSE 470 troops per attack. NA with less everything lost more troops and thus, deserve to determine strat next time.

This also shows who was the more active side.

Perhaps an even better compasion was looking at your faction(89 battles, 63000 Dead) to my ~6 month active strat faction(so, wasn't in strat at the start like you) 24 attacks and  28000 casualties.

In other words: 707 per attack compared to our 1160 per attack. Less time in strat and more battles and more active. Now just extrapolate that out and boom EU < NA.

And for us it's going to go up even more.

And my original Faction(aka just me) had 4k dead in 11 attacks and Gave away more than thrice that in tickets for other wars(Troop seller/merc).
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2013, 01:49:52 am »
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Butan give us more statistics!!!  :D


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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2013, 01:50:29 am »
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Erm why is there any kind of agenda about Eu or Na superiority? It's about equal treatment for all players, irrelevant of location. Servers are obviously limited for the stuff but that doesn't mean stuff shouldn't be handled equally. Hopefully next strat we will have a well balanced map with equal distribution of fiefs across all servers, hey maybe we can get an asian server set up if there are enough of those guys as well. I'm pretty sure if asked we can all raise funds for servers and get good server balance and focus for all.

Anyway NA was definetly more dynamic this strat but EU was starting to get there. COA just quitting opened up a lot of new potential for smaller clans in EU and there was the glory of Wessex.
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 02:02:56 am »
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There we see again how "wrong" and irritating pure statistics can be.  :|
Coalitions early christmas present changed much on the "ranking".  :mrgreen:

But still gj Butan for sharing this with us.
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 02:26:03 am »
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NA
2163 attacks, with 1,560,000 dead. 721 killed per attack

EU
3951 attacks with 1,860,000 dead 470 killed per attack.



Those were the statistics given by you and you Anders claim that
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NA with less everything lost more troops and thus, deserve to determine strat next time.

A quick looks shows that EU had 1788 more attacks and lost 300k more tickets in battle than NA.

So NA kills more per battle. You also had less battles and used less troops why should NA determine strat all of a sudden?

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Therefore: MORE XP from NA than EU.

I also fail to see how more troops killed in EU means more XP in NA? maybe more per average battle sure, but as Casimir said Strat should be balanced for all not just EU or NA. If you have any complaints about the NA side being to small or something take it to the right thread, Coming here to proclaim NA superiority in how they play just makes you sound like an utter retard.

oh and almost forgot nice job with the OP butan :P
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #25 on: December 18, 2013, 04:49:56 pm »
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Butan give Kalmar right fiefs pls  :P
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #26 on: December 18, 2013, 04:57:15 pm »
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3rd line for Kapikulu, additional thank you to the Coalition, for giving up and helping us one more step to the ceiling.

I've been a member for 8 months, we quite had bad times but also good times. We made some tough desicions. Routinely got insult and mocking tries from everyone, including our own race and former members, announced as a teamkiller. But the result shows us we did good.

With my calculations, an avarage Kapikulu player's ratio between enemy hit and friendly-fire is 8.5:1. Maybe at next strat, we should be more careful and more efficent for hits, and if we could rise this ratio to 9.5:1, we may get closer to the top.  :shock:

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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #27 on: December 18, 2013, 06:59:26 pm »
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Butan give Kalmar right fiefs pls  :P

Too late! No warning!  :P

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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #28 on: December 18, 2013, 07:04:12 pm »
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Too late! No warning!  :P
Pls, we don't want to have those shitty Ode fifes! :P
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Re: Strategus 4 end round snapshot [EU]
« Reply #29 on: December 18, 2013, 07:39:25 pm »
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Ah you mean the Ergellon/Vyincourd/Pagundur/Veluca zone?

I chose to write every faction only once on the map, where they originate from, so Ordre de l'Etoile only appear at Chalbek Castle. Those fiefs in the south (and in the center) are not linked with the rest so it is a bit confusing but I dont mean it to be part of Kalmar Union  :P