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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2013, 07:45:09 pm »
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you are a Horse xbowman, not a horse archer, no horse archer would gimp their build to have 8 riding.  However being a HX, you dont have a need to have any higher strength then 7, which at level 31 would give you like 10 riding.

Secondly Crpg is all about the style, id rather have something unique and different then ride an Arabian or Destrier like every other player.  The arabian is just hands down better then the eastern, and it serves a purpose, where as the eastern seems to not have any purpose whatsoever with its 8 riding difficulty.

The reason that horse is unique is because of its requirement. If it was average like the others, it would not be unique at all.
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2013, 08:02:10 pm »
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The reason that horse is unique is because of its requirement. If it was average like the others, it would not be unique at all.

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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2013, 06:06:14 pm »
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 10:33:41 pm »
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Buff this thing already!

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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2013, 04:59:15 am »
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Becuz there is no horse thats both faster and more flexible then that horse  :P

8 riding is a a lot ofc, but still, you should be able to outrun any opponent.

I say it is the best high level HA horse you can imagine.

No. I have 8 riding. This horse costs more, requires more skill points, and is less effective than the Arabian.

Even the Desert Horse is a better choice for the survivability and superior maneuver (and far cheaper).
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2013, 10:46:20 am »
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No. I have 8 riding. This horse costs more, requires more skill points, and is less effective than the Arabian.

Even the Desert Horse is a better choice for the survivability and superior maneuver (and far cheaper).
You're seriously underestimating the strength of being insanely fast at will while still having the maneuverability to dodge most horses.
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2013, 01:13:09 pm »
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You're seriously underestimating the strength of being insanely fast at will while still having the maneuverability to dodge most horses.

Except it's only slightly faster than the Arabian and way less maneuverable. It also has a lot less hp and armor than the Arabian.

Since it's less maneuverable than the Arabian, it loses more speed on turns. Yes it's faster if you only move in a straight line, but all that does is get you killed by anyone who can shoot an arrow.

It's already a bad horse; having a requirement of 8 riding makes it even worse.
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2013, 04:35:31 pm »
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You're seriously underestimating the strength of being insanely fast at will while still having the maneuverability to dodge most horses.

as rusty posted above, i understand you can move faster, but when you go to turn, you must slow down like a courser to make the turn, and the arabian will catch you at this point and have its way with you.  The horse is by no means "good" at anything, you ever heard the saying "Jack of all trades, Master of none".  Well thats this horse, and 8 riding makes it even worse, i believe the horse's difficulty should be 7, even 7 is a push for cavalry as 90% of the other horses can be rode at 5 riding. 

Also dont get me started on how weak this horse is, its survivability sucks, just flat out sucks.  Atleast the Arabian and courser can take a few hits and not seem like they are frail and on the verge of death at all times.  It has nearly the same stats as a Donkey by only being 1 point off.

Donkey
hit points: 80
body armor: 5
difficulty: 0
speed: 24
maneuver: 27
charge: 5

Sumpter Horse
hit points: 90
body armor: 10
difficulty: 2
speed: 33
maneuver: 37
charge: 9

Courser
hit points: 100
body armor: 18

difficulty: 6
speed: 46
maneuver: 41
charge: 15

Arabian Warhorse
hit points: 100
body armor: 10

difficulty: 7
speed: 41
maneuver: 48
charge: 13
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Eastern Horse
hit points: 80
body armor: 6

difficulty: 8
speed: 44
maneuver: 44
charge: 11

My opinion: The reason the Courser has 100 health but 18 body armor is because while this horse is in a full gallop, a striking arrow will cause massive damage to the horse because of the momentum, so to balance this horse it needs almost double the body armor of the Arabian.  The Arabian is stated weaker, but its also slower, much slower.  So this horse's armor is lower to keep an average between the two, so one horse is not inherently stronger then the other, it just has different abilities to perform, ie. Faster or turns better.  Yet the Eastern's stats make it faster then the Arabian, almost as fast as the courser and it as 3 times less body armor, and 20 less health, making it on average much much weaker.  From personal experience, i dont think my horse has ever lasted through the round, i get about 2 mins in and our pinpoint archers shoot me down,  leaving me running about on foot like common rabble, wondering why i spent 8 riding to get a weak horse when i could have spent 5 and rode a plated charger.
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2013, 12:52:32 am »
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You're seriously underestimating the strength of being insanely fast at will while still having the maneuverability to dodge most horses.

You're seriously overestimating a dead horse.  :idea:
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2013, 06:14:55 am »
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I will not let this horse down, it must be considered for balancing!

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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2013, 07:49:20 am »
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you are a Horse xbowman, not a horse archer, no horse archer would gimp their build to have 8 riding.

When I did gens as HA, I went 18/24 (no melee skills, no IF) for 8 riding 4 HA crazy archery WPF. +3 Steppe, Desert, and Arabian are amazing with this build. Had the eastern horse existed, I would have taken over any other.

I do agree that it is incredibly weak against incoming attacks. The other horses I used could take at least 2 hits. The current eastern horse will die from almost anything.
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2013, 10:11:59 am »
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8 riding seems a bit much for the super low survivability.


When I did gens as HA, I went 18/24 (no melee skills, no IF) for 8 riding 4 HA crazy archery WPF.

That is not a level 30 build.

At lvl 30 with 18/24, 8 riding and 4 HA you have 5 skill points left over.


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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #27 on: August 07, 2013, 04:56:44 pm »
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Thread getting knocked down by junk, this needs to be fixed and looked at! bump!!!

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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #28 on: August 07, 2013, 05:28:34 pm »
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My conquest mode suggestion is better, fuck your horse
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Re: EASTERN HORSEZ!
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2013, 05:19:56 pm »
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My conquest mode suggestion is better, fuck your horse

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