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The Battle of Rodos
« on: April 07, 2011, 08:00:55 am »
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 08:25:21 am »
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Not as glorious as it looks, Suleiman in the end had to resort to negotiations to get Rhodes from the Hospitallers.  The Siege was so bloody and vicious Suleiman was in great danger of losing.  He needed a win badly because his career as Sultan was just beginning and he told everyone he would do it.  In the end he finished it by negotiating the Hospittallers out of Rhodes (So no dude running with a flag and propping it up in victory)  But that is not the end of the story, Hospittallers took their leave and became even a great pain in the ass from their new base at Malta.  Suleiman tried to get rid of them there and at the same open the Med to the Turkish fleet but could not finish the job.  The Hospittallers dung in their heels and gutted it out through one of the bloodiest sieges in history and send Suleiman packing home. 

Mind you Suleiman was a good leader and the Jannissaries were good troops.  But tell the whole story or find yourself in the trap of revising history for your own ends.


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P.S 2  Slapping really?  lol  0:22

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 10:02:34 am »
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"300 like" video of Rhodos battle. Still nice to see other point of view than the European.

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 04:50:33 pm »
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P.S 2  Slapping really?  lol  0:22


Janissaries were trained to slap opponents in unarmed combat by slapping huge marble blocks. When they lost their weapons or the weapons were broken, the janissaries would give such a hard slap to the opponants resulting even breaking their skull :) At least, legends say so :)




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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 04:55:29 pm »
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Whats with the cheesy, nationalistic videos. Who makes these?

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 05:43:28 pm »
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Janissaries were trained to slap opponents in unarmed combat by slapping huge marble blocks. When they lost their weapons or the weapons were broken, the janissaries would give such a hard slap to the opponants resulting even breaking their skull :) At least, legends say so :)

They probably wanted to injure the eardrum of the opponent, that's a very fast and effective way to disable an enemy.
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 05:49:28 pm »
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Loool it's that Turkish Graphic Novel that Frank Miller never made and directed as a movie!
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 05:50:24 pm »
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Post more mindless propaganda videos and we will never allow special Turk armor.

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 05:58:57 pm »
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Post more mindless propaganda videos and we will never allow special Turk armor.

Do you think so? just because a guy keeps sharing videos?? this is not fair!

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2011, 06:07:23 pm »
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I just couldn't find the relation between a topic on Historical Discussion and Game Devolopment...
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It's a good video imo. Smells a lil bollywood but who cares ! :P  :mrgreen:

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2011, 06:54:52 pm »
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Patch will come within a few weeks if no more propaganda is posted.

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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2011, 08:28:36 pm »
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Not as glorious as it looks, Suleiman in the end had to resort to negotiations to get Rhodes from the Hospitallers.  The Siege was so bloody and vicious Suleiman was in great danger of losing.  He needed a win badly because his career as Sultan was just beginning and he told everyone he would do it.  In the end he finished it by negotiating the Hospittallers out of Rhodes (So no dude running with a flag and propping it up in victory)  But that is not the end of the story, Hospittallers took their leave and became even a great pain in the ass from their new base at Malta.  Suleiman tried to get rid of them there and at the same open the Med to the Turkish fleet but could not finish the job.  The Hospittallers dung in their heels and gutted it out through one of the bloodiest sieges in history and send Suleiman packing home. 

Mind you Suleiman was a good leader and the Jannissaries were good troops.  But tell the whole story or find yourself in the trap of revising history for your own ends.


P.S  Really round house kicks and jumping slashes.  I see more realism in M&B

P.S 2  Slapping really?  lol  0:22

Did you know that the person who created the Martial Arts was a Persian Buddhist who lived in India?  The Ottoman Turks civilization is heavily influenced by that of the Persians and martial arts were a part of that.  Wrestling, hand to hand combat, and various other martial arts etc. was widely known amongst the people of West Asia (Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, etc.)  Did you forget how the hypocrite Taliban were blowing up Buddhas in Afghanistan?

Also, there has been a lot of post Ottoman revisionism by colonial powers trying to make the Turks look weaker and not as important to all Western civilization.  Persian, Turkish, Arab, and Indian civilization in the Islamic Empires was the direct cause of the Renaissance following the Crusades where the Templars heavily influenced by Islam created Freemasonry and were persecuted by the Catholic Church.  The Templars became perennial philosophy Muslims so to speak and were persecuted for it.  If people of the former Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal Empires understood how much they owe to these great civilizations, they would worship them.   Alas, majority of Western history is written by the colonial victors. 
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 09:09:20 pm »
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Just an advice: Try less hard and you will be taken serious
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 10:04:13 pm »
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Did you know that the person who created the Martial Arts was a Persian Buddhist who lived in India?  The Ottoman Turks civilization is heavily influenced by that of the Persians and martial arts were a part of that.  Wrestling, hand to hand combat, and various other martial arts etc. was widely known amongst the people of West Asia (Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan, etc.)  Did you forget how the hypocrite Taliban were blowing up Buddhas in Afghanistan?

Also, there has been a lot of post Ottoman revisionism by colonial powers trying to make the Turks look weaker and not as important to all Western civilization.  Persian, Turkish, Arab, and Indian civilization in the Islamic Empires was the direct cause of the Renaissance following the Crusades where the Templars heavily influenced by Islam created Freemasonry and were persecuted by the Catholic Church.  The Templars became perennial philosophy Muslims so to speak and were persecuted for it.  If people of the former Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal Empires understood how much they owe to these great civilizations, they would worship them.   Alas, majority of Western history is written by the colonial victors.

That sounds very bitter, but don't worry soon we will both be bitter together and forever complain about the Chinese and maybe the Indians.
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Re: The Battle of Rodos
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 10:07:20 pm »
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The truth is a bitter pill to swallow, hence the West ignores the contributions of the Islamic World to the detriment of itself.  Also, yes...I don't look forward to the Chinese/Indians taking over.    :mrgreen:
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