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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2012, 06:42:59 pm »
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get a knightly heater and a scimitar, go to town. you cant accidently trust, and its got good speed and reach.
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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2012, 06:56:19 pm »
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Ping contributes to slowness yes. So does a slow shield.

I was also under the impression that shield speed affects how fast your weapon swings when you are using the shield.  I was told however that shield speed only affects how fast your shield blocks. 
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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2012, 07:19:44 pm »
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Footwork will stop you from getting out-swung. I only have 113 WPF at the moment, and I only get double-swung when I make a mistake.

Stick to overheads and left swings at close range. Thrusts are also good, but there is a learning curve involved in preventing them from glancing.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2012, 08:22:21 pm »
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Use the almighty leftswing spam.

What is your ping btw?

Oh, and also be sure to attack right after you blocked, some people are a bit slow on that and then get sad because they get outspammed.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2012, 08:39:28 pm »
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I was also under the impression that shield speed affects how fast your weapon swings when you are using the shield.  I was told however that shield speed only affects how fast your shield blocks.

It doesn't affect swing speed. It just "contributes" to getting spammed, because you don't get your block up that fast.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2012, 09:23:36 pm »
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get a knightly heater and a scimitar, go to town. you cant accidently trust, and its got good speed and reach.

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What movie/whataver is your sig from?

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You can train turning swings in single player or in duel server, you will better understand a new method of fighting where you have some chance to survive rather than having to wait for the perfect moment online at first.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2012, 09:34:32 pm »
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What movie/whataver is your sig from?

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You can train turning swings in single player or in duel server, you will better understand a new method of fighting where you have some chance to survive rather than having to wait for the perfect moment online at first.

Google his quote in the sig and maybe add "movie quotes".

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2012, 09:54:33 pm »
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109 WPF isn't a lot. If you wear fat armor, it will be reduced to 90 or less.

I think what you are experiencing is hiltslashes. Unfortunately, it's currently possible to do damage VERY early in the animation, when it actually should glance on anything but naked skin, but since Paul changed the armor formula, it's even possible to cut through plate this way. 2h animations are best for this, but even polearm and 1h left to right swing works, if you use a weapon with high damage and have high PS.

That's why I suggest you never try the right to left swing against 2h in tight situations. They will connect earlier, even if you blocked their previous swing and start your counterswing immediately afterwards.
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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2012, 11:28:52 pm »
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That's why I suggest you never try the right to left swing against 2h in tight situations. They will connect earlier, even if you blocked their previous swing and start your counterswing immediately afterwards.
Hiltslashes are not used that much, atleast at this side of the ocean. I would suggest always using the leftswing in any tight situation. It connects really fast and only a perfectly executed hiltslash will hit quicker, they are quite rare. You can actually do a double left swing a lot when using proper mouse movement, not enabling your opponent to attack back.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2012, 11:32:05 pm »
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I haven't had a chance to try it yet(the left swing that is, didn't know it was quicker).  I wear rather light armour minus helmet, and gloves.  My shield is one of the quickets I could grab, I have 6 into shields, and use the Nordic Shortsword.

My ping ranges from 90-100 usually.

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I also just want to thank everyone who has contributed so far to this.  I'm actually not used to a community as friendly or helpful as this.
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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #25 on: March 29, 2012, 02:28:26 am »
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I haven't had a chance to try it yet(the left swing that is, didn't know it was quicker).  I wear rather light armour minus helmet, and gloves.  My shield is one of the quickets I could grab, I have 6 into shields, and use the Nordic Shortsword.

My ping ranges from 90-100 usually.

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I also just want to thank everyone who has contributed so far to this.  I'm actually not used to a community as friendly or helpful as this.
An elite scimitar would be a better choice than a short sword. The extra reach and cut damage more than make up for the lower speed. The Nordic champion sword, knightly arming sword, and Italian sword would also be worth looking into.

100 ping isn't unplayable, but it is a substantial disadvantage. You're will have less time to counter-attack after hearing the weapon block sound, compared to most of your opponents. Player positions will also be somewhat out of sync.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2012, 02:39:03 am »
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What about an Arabian Straight Sword?  Those are the two I have currently.  One for reach, the other for speed.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #27 on: March 29, 2012, 02:49:35 am »
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but since Paul changed the armor formula
Been doing it all the way from native to present day.

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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #28 on: March 29, 2012, 02:52:24 am »
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What about an Arabian Straight Sword?  Those are the two I have currently.  One for reach, the other for speed.

Instead of two swords you're better off using a sword and some type of specialist weapon, like an axe for shield breaking or a hammer for heavy armor.

Personally I use 3 weapons, an Italian Sword, a Military Hammer and a Broad 1-handed Axe.
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Re: Why is my One Handed so slow?
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2012, 02:57:08 am »
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Elite Scimitar is a great weapon for starting as a one-hander.
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