Je Suis Pandor :wink:
Je Suis Pandor :wink:I zoomed in and found the terrible truth!
Yesterday i was going to write another comment in thread "ban reason?", and suddenly i heard thunder in the sky! A huge lighting bolt strikes me, i fell down unconscious...
When i finally woke up, i found myself on a big white cloud and old man with white beard was sitting infront of me.
Old man with white beard: Pandor, my son.(at first i was wondering why he call me my son, he doesnt look like my father)
Pandor:who are you? and why u saying that im your son?(deep down i started realize who sits infront of me)
Old man with white beard: All humans are my sons and daughters... Exept gingers, they dont have a soul...(everything become clear, the god spoke to me!)
Pandor: where am i? is it heaven?
God: no it is not your time, yet.
Pandor: then what am i doing here?
God: you wallowed in sins, and i whant to lead you on a righteous way, before its too late.
Pandor: but what am i doing wrong? I never insult people, never hurt anyone...
God: you did worse! you modified your cRPG client to feel your self comfortable when shooting,
and more you allow other people feel themself comfortable when they playing archers.
Pandor: but...u cant be serious...
God: oh, my son i am serious, there is no worse sin than this.
Pandor: but its just ridiculo...(god interupts me)
God: you need to repent. I will show u how your sin affects on the world around you.
God touched Pandors head and thats what he saw:
As everyone start using green arrows their eyesight ceased to deteriorate. And the consequence was terrible.
Abandoned eyeglass shops all over the towns, ruins of the lens factories was everywhere, billions of peoples lost their jobs, and they could not feed their familys.
The world was plunged into chaos, global starwation took half of existing population, 1/3 died from sickness because there only few doctors survived.
Sudenlly i woke up. I realized that what i did is wrong and how many suffering my action entailed, and then I repented. https://youtu.be/93PVnORR7X8
I zoomed in and found the terrible truth!
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https://youtu.be/93PVnORR7X8
Yesterday i was going to write another comment in thread "ban reason?", and suddenly i heard thunder in the sky! A huge lighting bolt strikes me, i fell down unconscious...
When i finally woke up, i found myself on a big white cloud and old man with white beard was sitting infront of me.
Old man with white beard: Pandor, my son.(at first i was wondering why he call me my son, he doesnt look like my father)
Pandor:who are you? and why u saying that im your son?(deep down i started realize who sits infront of me)
Old man with white beard: All humans are my sons and daughters... Exept gingers, they dont have a soul...(everything become clear, the god spoke to me!)
Pandor: where am i? is it heaven?
God: no it is not your time, yet.
Pandor: then what am i doing here?
God: you wallowed in sins, and i whant to lead you on a righteous way, before its too late.
Pandor: but what am i doing wrong? I never insult people, never hurt anyone...
God: you did worse! you modified your cRPG client to feel your self comfortable when shooting,
and more you allow other people feel themself comfortable when they playing archers.
Pandor: but...u cant be serious...
God: oh, my son i am serious, there is no worse sin than this.
Pandor: but its just ridiculo...(god interupts me)
God: you need to repent. I will show u how your sin affects on the world around you.
God touched Pandors head and thats what he saw:
As everyone start using green arrows their eyesight ceased to deteriorate. And the consequence was terrible.
Abandoned eyeglass shops all over the towns, ruins of the lens factories was everywhere, billions of peoples lost their jobs, and they could not feed their familys.
The world was plunged into chaos, global starwation took half of existing population, 1/3 died from sickness because there only few doctors survived.
Sudenlly i woke up. I realized that what i did is wrong and how many suffering my action entailed, and then I repented. https://youtu.be/93PVnORR7X8
Good impromptu post littered with sarcasm.pfft make it about the double double from In N Out.
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac.
Good impromptu post littered with sarcasm.
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac and what it means to be American.
Good impromptu post littered with sarcasm.
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac and what it means to be American.
Good impromptu post littered with sarcasm.
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac and what it means to be American.
i'm afraid story about BigMac u won't like.
Obviously Triple Baconator, what kind of american are you?
That is kind of the point; His long winded post filled with sarcasm holds the same level of value as if he were to write about the history of the Big mac and what it means to be American.
I don't eat fast food so your questioning Jona's understanding of American fast food culture.
Whoa now, if you're gonna go laying the blame on me for not knowing fast food culture, then at least give me those few upvotes you stole!
Proper 500 word unban essay on why we should not modify our game data to have an advantage would we appropiate.
That or your own personal interpretation of 'common sense' is fucked up. Do you believe that changing the textures of all arrows as an archer to make aiming and all things to do with your class easier is in any way comparable to making horses louder? With the tild key already and horses already making a noise coming up behind you anyway i dont see how this would benefit your gameplay.
Just about everyone thought these textures were crossing a line from the video. But admins left it.
Admins also let it go when Pandor insisted on creating multiple threads and posts to remind people that he's using these textures nobody approves of.
They decided to do something about it when Pandor posted a link for others to easily get these textures.
Jambi, you're retarded if you think the thread you linked has anything to do with this. If your own 'common sense' is different from everyone else's it's not 'common' sense then is it?
Well of course you would defend him Jambi, since you yourself used rainbow arrows :wink: :oops:
Keep him banned, anything else is just wishful thinking.
Well, they have to draw the line somewhere. It just happens that peoples opinions will differ on where this line should be drawn. Ultimately, its their game, and their decision.
Pandor acted as a self-aware idiot that continued to prod admins despite hearing the general consensus.
There's no way you can look at all these threads and all these posts since Pandor's first video and go 'WOAH! Where the fuck did this come from?!?!?' He knew people were pissed off and he knew admins were debating whether to take action or not, if he didnt want to be banned he wouldnt have kept pushing.
sure i agree with u, hax is hax and it should be a ban but what is pissing me most is admins showing the MORAL LINE in .......2016 :|Spot on! But argueable not all admins share the same moral line, even in the green arrow situation.
Jambi, you're retarded if you think the thread you linked has anything to do with this.http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/mods-compatible-with-crpg-%28updated-sticky%29/
And you'd get the same 'advantage' by turning up your ingame volume.
Like i said in my post, the cheating was a controversial issue but it was the way Pandor insisted on pushing and pushing that lead to the ban. The ban isnt unreasonable if you look at the sequence of events, not sure why you didnt include the context in which i said that old thread has nothing to do with the reason Pandor was banned. It was both the fact that he cheated (which was openly debated) and the way he behaved about it that made it impossible to ignore.
If you really really really want to kick up a storm and get a higher up dev to have a look at this you may not enjoy the result. Donkeys were brutal about autoblock and multiaccount.
Sounds like you're picking a side. Either that banning Pandor was wrong, or that other submods should be banned which IMO is the only way to guarantee this shit doesnt happen.
The fact there can even be any form of debate on a smug 'I did nothing wrong' thread by Pandor after being banned, is ridiculous. I'm confident no admins would do this, but i'm just posting here to guard against the possiblity of an admin pandering to randomly swaying public opinion over a funny OP that simultaneously promises that no lessons have been learned by the offender.If you insist on talking about Pandor, ill give my opinion on him.
Of course the other green-arrows using Russian's gonna side with Pandor.
That's what you're saying, but uh, yeah, gonna have to need way more than your word for itThat's what you're saying. Why is he being portrayed as using green arrows ? However uh, yeah, gonna have to need way more than your word for it
He's Russian, he cheats by default.
Or at least its same to assume so.
He's Russian, he cheats by default.so if ur from Na(b) that mean's all Na players are bad by default? i don't think so, iv met tons of good Na players so your logic is bad same bad as u in this game :lol: Jesus those fucking forum warriors top kek :twisted:
Or at least its same to assume so.
I never said I am good, just that Russians are cheaters :?:and your argument is valid because why? u fucking know something about this game or ur just another *barking* forum hero?
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He's Russian, he cheats by default.
Or at least its safe to assume so.
that logic!!!! hahahahwut?
thanks, showed it to all my friends.
Then following ur logic, every black is criminal, every muslim terrorist, every catholic pedophile. Am i safe to assume you are stupid?
so if ur from Na(b) that mean's all Na players are bad by default?
Well, there is something to that stereotype. 90% of Russians I encountered in online gaming are complete and utter idiots. Like, totaly retarded mongoloid trash, scurge of online gaming.
Cyka bljat )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
or maybe u just radical nationalist, and project ur fantasies on games
it is known. the eu-na skill rift had been a thorn in balancing for years.
I'm going to visit Europe within this year. Duel me ft7, winner gets a flaming katana for life.
or maybe u just radical nationalist, and project ur fantasies on gamesbeing radical nationalist is one thing (good or bad i will not judge this) and being dumb fuck who can't think is other funny thing.
being radical nationalist is one thing (good or bad i will not judge this) and being dumb fuck who can't think is other funny thing.
After spending something like 16 years of working, playing over the internet, iv learned that there is no nation,race, religion,sex there are just ppl and those ppl are just normal or dumb fucks and those dumb fucks are dumb no matter of religion, nation, sex so for me it will be always first and last criteria how to judge ppl in internet Polak,Russian,Suomi,Muslim,Greek,Turk, black or white, tall or small doesn't matter dumb fuck or normal person. :D
I am nowhere near nationalistic (don't see how that relates anyway) and I have the same exact perception, russians I really like are far and few between (there are some kickass ones) and my interactions with them irl and online have been far worse than any other nationality/race/religion.
Maybe you're the radical nationalist and can't comprehend how could anyone possibly have this attitude towards mother russia and her "awesome" people.
every black is criminal, every muslim terrorist, every catholic pedophile.
I can't be radical nationalist because i don't judge all nations by individual encounters. + i'm not russian, same as half of druzhina.
Only fools refer to whole nations like u do. I know retards from all nations :)
what a nice dramma again :D
Pandors biggest mistake was to make a video with green arrows, making a video of only one copy of that zip deleted form his pc isn't enough for most of ppl.
About modding game:
doing a native arrows is something that we know for ages, and those kind of projectiles are in basic release of this game made by producers of this game and it should be allowed.
Iron hooves or however its called makes geame more realistic (never used that, get accastume to move like paranoic while playing c-rpg), because horses are just too quiet, in real life u can hear a horse running from a long distance AND feel ground shaking.
Coloring items, in colors that are different than natural to kind of material is clearly a cheating.
I agree with Nebun that devs should make a clear rules with defined exeptions what can't u do. If something is not prohibited it's allowed.
Ppl raging about DRZ archers should finnaly understand that even with totally not modded client DRZ archer are in top of best c-rpg, and they are killing you because they are just doing what they are good in, and in strat battles there are not enought good ranged in other team to counter them, or even to have a "fair" 1:1 pewpew.
As for me, Pandor should have a second chance, like many other persons in this game, if he won't use that then permaban.
Or because they've all modded their clients with green arrows and have practiced enough that it's so easy to kill anyone with a bow it's ridiculous, guarantee if all of them reset their clients they'd be shit at archery lmfao.
Or because they've all modded their clients with green arrows and have practiced enough that it's so easy to kill anyone with a bow it's ridiculous, guarantee if all of them reset their clients they'd be shit at archery lmfao.
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guess I missed something, whats wrong with blueknight?
He's Russian, he cheats by default.
Or at least its safe to assume so.
That has been the problem all the time with cRPG. Too many chances given. 8-)
Shameful aint it
Or because they've all modded their clients with green arrows and have practiced enough that it's so easy to kill anyone with a bow it's ridiculous, guarantee if all of them reset their clients they'd be shit at archery lmfao.
Not sure why you're making me out to be the ignorant party Uther, I've said the exact same thing in multiple threads, Pandor WAS banned for being so open about his cheat, even going far enough to post a bloody download link to it.
If Pandor has it, it's more than reasonable to assume that many more of DRZ have the EXACT same thing, so I don't think you have much of a right to say I've got no idea what I'm talking about when you're probably very similar. We will NEVER know who has the green arrow cheat unless people are as stupid as Pandor was, that's the bottom line of it, the most we can do is make assumptions based off of what we have, and from my experience in Administration, the sheep follows the flock.
I pointed to you in regards to calling DRZ archers shitty, hate them or love them but they are good in what they do, cucumber arrows or not)) And whether they use cheats or not is of little care for me without some system in place to control that)
So common sense means nothing to you, do you really need an iron fist to rule over you just to make you act half decent?Let me rephrase - I can't affect it, so I won't shoot blindly at people i think are cheating without any proof. Care wasn't the clearest word to use.
Let me rephrase - I can't affect it, so I won't shoot blindly at people i think are cheating without any proof. Care wasn't the clearest word to use.
Let me rephrase - I can't affect it, so I won't shoot blindly at people i think are cheating without any proof. Care wasn't the clearest word to use.
And where were the admins and moderators to moderate and enforce the rules on players/admins, about bigotry, discriminatory speech, hate speech etc on Russians?
And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works
I love Russians
This is pure fucking gold, going straight to my sig.
Also nice sob story, I have a suggestion for you, how about you make you own RU server and shit green arrows and flying dicks there all day every day.
+ don't troll blueknight since he is a very good and respected guy!
Then that begs the question, If you were away when the whole circus was going on, and now here to make a post comment about it? Or were you there and simply sat idle as well, not giving a hoot.Probably the latter, since I refuse to believe Russians are discriminated more than Green Hippy Multi-Culti Leftist Germans, Car Thief Polish, Kebab Turkish, Money Stealer Greek, Raping Arabs, Scandinavian Cucks, Muricunts, Stronk Serbians, Gay French, Ugly Spics, Familia Italians, Moose Receptor Canadians, Druglord Latinos, Indian Curry Poopers, Japanese Apes, UK Douchebags, Chinese Tourists (this one is a legit insult), Korean Whores or all the others this post doesn't offend.
Probably the latter, since I refuse to believe Russians are discriminated more than Green Hippy Multi-Culti Leftist Germans, Car Thief Polish, Kebab Turkish, Money Stealer Greek, Raping Arabs, Scandinavian Cucks, Muricunts, Stronk Serbians, Gay French, Ugly Spics, Familia Italians, Moose Receptor Canadians, Druglord Latinos, Indian Curry Poopers, Japanese Apes, UK Douchebags, Chinese Tourists (this one is a legit insult), Korean Whores or all the others this post doesn't offend.
Pandor wasn't banned for being Russian, and if you're referring to any unrelated anti-Russian hate speech, it didn't stick out enough to catch my attention.
This is pure fucking gold, going straight to my sig.
Also nice sob story, I have a suggestion for you, how about you make you own RU server and shit green arrows and flying dicks there all day every day.
Hey lets ban ppl since there are way to many ppl who are playing this mod/game cuse hey coloured arrows are so rules breaking (which i see NOWHERE stated)...Jesus ppl unban him and end this drama totally not deserved ban.Maybe a warning and promisse he will not use that again but still i dont see where it says in the RULES that green (coloured native arrows) are bannable and foribbiden.mate it has nothing to do with with banning or unbanning Pidnor's cucumber ass, it's bit bigger picture right here, it's about rules and forcing them and even more shitty thing like bigotry. (unban Pindor and if he will touch bow perma ban, let him play 2h,Pindor was 2Hero so no cucumber axes for him :mrgreen: i think it's a fair punishment)
http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/ban-illuminati_/msg843711/#msg843711
dat forum heroes are shit in this game i know for a long time but the forum heroes failing even at their own playground it's even more funny :D
look at this topic and those responses
'If people want me banned for using textures that aren't against the rules they can make a ban thread, but don't try to steer away from the topic of this thread.' top kek lol :mrgreen:
'Maybe check the rules first. :p
it's still the internet, not a playground for fanatics who avoid all forms of negativitymeh my friend,all in all world is a geat place :D but those brain damaged ppl.... :wink:
one day, the world might become a better place. but i promise you, it won't start on the www
so pandor got banned for attitude, even tho he didn't insult anyone?
pandor is a troll, i argued with him many times, sometimes i want to punch him :D But i think red line should be drawn before something like this happens and not after. U basically banned him and then said how horrible it is. Some commented on how its disapproved, but nobody said its forbidden, because even admins didn't know how to deal with this situation. But i see little difference in someone using native arrows and someone using green arrows. If one is advantage then another is advantage too. If someone would kill 5 ppl in real life and another kills 10 ppl in real life for the same reasons - they both murderers then.
I don't urge u to ban ppl for native arrows because i see nothing wrong with that, but pandor shouldn't get banned too. Or at list make a rule - its ok to use native arrows but we'll fuck u up for flying coloured dicks. If u think that green arrows give u advantage then native also do that. I played native few nights when we had no one on servers, was way too easy u can see all arrows.
Pandor is big retard at times but should be unbanned. He leveled his archer for years to be banned for something uncertain, something as one of admins called - grey area. Make a rule and if he breaks it he should get punishment.
And all people who play on our side, and its not just greys anymore but also eques, some mercs etc know one thing very well: When we join strat battle and there is a fog, we all asking if anyone who joined later or sooner had a fog and if there is one for those who joined sooner, all out team rejoining server!!! I think everyone does that.
Someone shared natives and other mods on forum, pandor shared his. Stupid - yes, bannable - no.
I've read that hourse sounds made louder in mod then other sounds because it makes them more realistic, maybe true, but it still gives advantage over other players.
Never even heared of that thing with horses, pandor too - he just asked me where he can download and that he always wanted it :)))
He already punished by not playing for some days now, without anyone writing to him what he has to do to get unbanned. So i guess his ban can go on for months until u work out.
I dragged him in this strat because he didn't want to play at all, told him country need him (tho i didn't tell him that country was Estonia), and then he got exited in crpg again and played there too almost every day. And now he can't play because of "common sense" and he doesn't understand how this common sense works, since mercs invented coloured shit, since a lot of players use native arrows, since ppl remove night from their game and mod the shit out of their CRPG and don't get banned. He thought it was perfectly normal since a lot of players mod shit and post it on forum. He trolled a bit but never expected to get banned for this.
Sorry but ur common sense sucks + double standards + personal preferences.
+ don't troll blueknight since he is a very good and respected guy!
Alot of you defending Pandor, with the argument about racism, please explain how its even the case.
I can see some racism going on in the thread and i hope that you use the report to moderator button as that is the reason its there.
This racism is coming from players, not admins, and you are right to be angry about it.
Pandors ban imo is fair.
Panos have been globally banned for far less, "shut up you ranged bundle of sticks" a sentence like that. (The forums auto correct removed the bad words and replaced them with "bundle of sticks")
You will not find a popular game/mod where something like re-texture to gain a advantage is not frowned upon. (Killing floor like games yes but that is not pvp competitive)
Like sharing a movie gives you a harser judgement in real life instead of just downloading it, so will sharing a cheat give you unwanted attention.
I don't understand the bigotry against the russians, when we all should name our number #1 cheaters by country.Yes Russia is second but still.(click to show/hide)
Everyone remember two things, innoncent until proven guilty and not guilty until proven innoncent !
And this mod is a service not a right, we can be denied this service and have no rights.
In Poland only live 30 mio people :idea:
Good thing you aren't taking a side or defending Pandor right?I added and removed my +1 around 25 times to show my appreciation to you, Heskey!
The only fail here is you, especially if you cant spot the difference between Uther banning people now for a video that's years old and banning someone who actively publicises their cheating now and publicly shares the link after being warned.
You seem to think these things are equivalent, good thing that nobody cares what you think. And how OUTRAGEOUS that the community and admins bring up the fact that this player that was caught openly cheating is from a clan with a history of cheating, GOD!!!! So RACIST! There's no way to talk all this right lol.
But srsly, admins don't need to talk this right. Only people outraged are Pandor's clanmates and you, and no matter how hard you try to create a 'circus' around this, no one gives a shit what you think.
Actually Nebun it's more like someone being racist on here which some people don't like but some people don't care. The guy then realises he's annoying some people and takes it further by posting more and more like it and inviting people to join in with him being racist. While what he did isn't specifically against the rules it's not exactly approved of. He's then taken it so far and tried to make it worse by getting more people to do it. That's the problem. Had he not been an idiot and demanding the attention of the world with what he's doing he'd not be banned. It's his own fault and I think the ban should stand or he won't learn.
Interesting, we also have players in their 30s-40s, teachers, doctors and other serious calm ppl, who play few hrs in the evenings and strat battles to relax after work. Would be interesting to hear their thoughts on a "guy" who suggests for them to play on a separate server because he thinks that they are bad by default.
I will return a favor and suggest u to read books and expand ur understanding of life enough - so you could make up better/cleaner/deeper opinion of everyone individually, instead of judging whole nations/clans/races.
And since i'm not a very horrible cheater, russian hacks, syka blyati, vodka, balalayka, i will help u with possible replies:
- i know u all rotten, i've seen it, i've seen it!
- I didn't say anything about races - so the rest of it must be false too.
- (ignore the whole point and say) Nice sob story.
(That way u don't even have to type it, because you can just copy paste it. Do u understand it? eh? eh? should i explain? should i explain? should i explain? ) :wink:
If it also took total population into consideration i think Denmark and Sweden would top, they are in the top 10 and only have a populations of 5 and 8 million people.
Don't forget that among them is bigger percentage of players / pop ( very good and old internet / shitty climate)
But it wouldn't make sense to take population into consideration as there are no borders or nationalities on the internet only a total amount of cheaters, everyone else is clean.
No one cheats because of their nationality.
http://forum.melee.org/na-(official)/ban-illuminati_/msg843711/#msg843711
dat forum heroes are shit in this game i know for a long time but the forum heroes failing even at their own playground it's even more funny :D
look at this topic and those responses
'If people want me banned for using textures that aren't against the rules they can make a ban thread, but don't try to steer away from the topic of this thread.' top kek lol :mrgreen:
'Maybe check the rules first. :p
I agree the textures are pretty dumb, but they are totally legal and have always been around.' :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
'Message me if you do want them or to know about them please. I'd rather not stray away from the topic.' buahahahahaaha top kek
and the fucking cherry on the cake Admin decision :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
'Illuminati's record is pretty clean so I am going to let this off with a warning. Please do not nudge reloading xbowmen. Also, I was on the server at the time and this could have been reported to me in I chat which would have immediately cleared this up. Locking thread, please direct any criticisms to http://forum.meleegaming.com/game-admin-feedback/(na)-phantasmal/ '
buahahahaahah top-notch admin decision :D
and seriously should i link to neon weapons, this link is active on forum and dat guy didn't even get a warning? :D forum heroes army fail
it's still the internet, not a playground for fanatics who avoid all forms of negativity
one day, the world might become a better place. but i promise you, it won't start on the www
Good thing you aren't taking a side or defending Pandor right?
The only fail here is you, especially if you cant spot the difference between Uther banning people now for a video that's years old and banning someone who actively publicises their cheating now and publicly shares the link after being warned.
You seem to think these things are equivalent, good thing that nobody cares what you think. And how OUTRAGEOUS that the community and admins bring up the fact that this player that was caught openly cheating is from a clan with a history of cheating, GOD!!!! So RACIST! There's no way to talk all this right lol.
But srsly, admins don't need to talk this right. Only people outraged are Pandor's clanmates and you, and no matter how hard you try to create a 'circus' around this, no one gives a shit what you think.
Let me rephrase - I can't affect it, so I won't shoot blindly at people i think are cheating without any proof. Care wasn't the clearest word to use.
Haha! And hes a beta tester too! I bet hes testing out what mods are compatible with M:BG.
Yes yes, I'm sure drz ts in the evenings is a culturally uplifting experience, you drink fine wines and discuss Tolstoy, gtfo.
Go, be clown somewhere else.
Please explain why he can't just buy new warband key with 80% off? He loses his looms but DRZ has huge armory from what I've heard.
Some admins are good, others do what they want.
Seriously, WTF is that racism shit going on.
This is so stupid, so much so that there is no word in any language to explain your ability to connect those two things together. Being a cheater and racism. Fucking wow.
Natural selection should take you away.
C'mon and take a look again. I say the same thing and there is full understanding. It was just about logic only.
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Hah! Nope. They're all degenerates. Takes one to know one. :wink:
Also, moderation related, it seems as of late that racism/cheats/mudak arguments/personal vendettas are the only things that make this mods playerbase blood flow and boil with passion.
Discussion here about admins judgements. If someone get banned for things that others don't get banned for. Then bans not based on rules, but rather on personal preference.
daily reminder that Pandor didnt got banned for cheating in first line but for publishing it publically and encouraging others to do so aswell
daily bias reminder.
As if posting video's and screenshots of cheating and getting away with it, isnt encouraging enough for players that are thinking about cheating to be pushed into eventually doing it.
So... we're deleting posts too now?
Interesting.
I pointed to you in regards to calling DRZ archers shitty, hate them or love them but they are good in what they do, cucumber arrows or not)) And whether they use cheats or not is of little care for me without some system in place to control that)
Trained by Nord BlueKnight = 100 % Darwin award for his adept or what?I was trained from birth by my adopted father, BlueKnight, he raised me to be as retarded as possible out of spite, for he could not bare a child of his own (all the polish wumynz said fk u) so he raised me and made me retarded (this is how I joined Krems at an early age)(click to show/hide)
What a load of crap. I've played archer since 1st strategus. About 6 year now. I don't need to see where arrows fly anymore. Everything happens out of habit.
But its useful to see when someone shooting at u. But its enough to look at ur body or ground to see at what angle arrow hit.
Any good archer knows that.
Would be fun to see your face, when admins will make client check/auto update, and then the next day u will get headshoot the same as u always was.
yeldur, pleaseI'M SORRY I DON'T KNOW HOW TO MULTIQUOTE :X
And for all those whining about how I am a Vanguard, don't worry, I'm Krems too so you get double the retardation! :D
Yeldur, mind the machinegun multi post please. :mad:
We're all Krems at heart. There's a little Krems inside of every cRPG player that dares to have fun playing this videogame mod.
I wasn't aware shit talking about one country makes someone racist.There's a difference between shit talking and creating a stereotype because they are Russian.
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Sorry Karasu, I'm not sure how to multiquote :x
There's a difference between shit talking and creating a stereotype because they are Russian.
You're a drama queen and your opinions are unpopular because they're shit, not because you're the only one brave enough to stand up against the system.
If you want overwhelming support from the community to topple this decision, you wont get it.
If you want other admins to overrule this decision, they wont. We were getting to the point where in the absence of a global admin doing something, individual NA and EU admins in combination with forum moderator were willing to take separate action to individually remove Pandor's post and ban him from each region. The admins seem pretty united over this.
And if you go over their heads and wake up a head admin or a donkey, you may not like the outcome considering their historic zero tolerance to modding the game for your own personal advantage (when they're active enough to actually notice it and take any form of action).
Admins are taking action NOW on an instance they could no longer ignore. They cant go back in time and ban mercs for doing similar in a video 3 years ago, no matter how many entitled tears you cry. The people involved in that video 3 years ago should be grateful that either the admin team at the time didn't give a shit, or that the people in that video weren't total assholes about it like Pandor who made it impossible for admins to not make a hard ruling. The current decision that happened NOW was not done without warning, it didn't come out of nowhere, and as stated you're just trying to stir shit up in a black & white case of cheating by going totally offtopic and acting like it's racist to ban someone for cheating if they're Russian.
You're a drama queen and your opinions are unpopular because they're shit
You need a forum training ^^Hahaha, dw BK I understand :p
I prefer to open another tab in the browser so that I have 1 for writing and 1 for getting quotes or other forum stuff in the background, in another tab just quote someone, copy the quotation and paste in the first tab where you want to write your message, close other tab when not necessary anymore. Tried to keep it short, may be confusing, whatever...
Like workplace-tab and provider-tab
No matter how you twist things, race =/= the country you live in, or half the forum should be banned/warned for being racist to Americans.Oh believe me I'm well aware that many many people are racist as fuck on the forums and in game. The irony is hilarious. I honestly don't give a shit about people being racist, if they can't handle it then they shouldn't be on the Internet at all lmao, Internet has been a shithole for many years and nothing is going to improve it.
You're a drama queen and your opinions are unpopular because they're shit, not because you're the only one brave enough to stand up against the system.
We're all Krems at heart. There's a little Krems inside of every cRPG player that dares to have fun playing this videogame mod.
It pains me to admit it, but everyone who ever played this mod has a bit of Krems in himself.
It all boils down to people community is made of. In early days of cRPG when forums were full of Mercs, Jambis opinion was more valuable than it is now. Currently this forum and probably game is filled with Krems, so it is expected that opinions that deviate from what Krems like folk think to be considered as shitty.
Unfortunately that is correct. It pains me to admit it, but everyone who ever played this mod has a bit of Krems in himself.
It pains me to admit it, but everyone who ever played this mod has a bit of Krems in himself.
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NA admins act in mysterious ways, I don't try to understand them - also, I wasn't even an admin back then, unrelated case to this thing - again, Pandor shared his cheat and got temporarily banned for sharing his cheat.(click to show/hide)
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Well common sense tells me that admin that played against us on siege of Tibaut was doing something wrong using show names cheat way too often while playing XBow. Was he using it to find leechers on strategus battle or targets for his crossbow?
Some admins are good, others do what they want.
Im going to repeat it one more time for you Heskey. If i were truly against the "system" as a whole or however in black and white you mean it, i would have pushed for an unban but i didnt, and nor did i ask for other admins to overrule any decision made on Pandor. I have expressed my concerns and questioned the system on how they handled this, and made examples of why i dont agree with the choice they made and especially how they handled it.
I've seen one of the krems bite Pandor and he become retard :( So really who's fault is it? :D
I can't believe people are raging over the fact that tinkering with your models and textures client side should be restricted or overseen.
Now here is a suggestion. Some servers have the restriction on, some have it off, and you can decide where you want to play. And if you really want to play with your unicorn on the restricted servers, you put it into the review process.
Some people really find something rageworthy in every little thing...
yes
What's holding me back is that, as far as I am aware...
Honestly russians just aren't reporting the insults thrown against them...
But I agree, insulting Pandor and other Druzhina members because they're eastern slavs (not just russians, polan strok) is dumb. It leads to nothing and arguing that someone has a specific trait (like being a cheater) because of their nationality is just stupid, sorry.And im glad you're the first admin with balls big enough to actually recognize the bullshit slavs deal with.
Hah! Nope. They're all degenerates. Takes one to know one. :wink:
blah blah blahBut as Vovka already posted. Back to my previous point i made about russian bias and the overall hypocrisy going rampart. But nah my opinions are "shit"
why try hard and fix game to make it better if it is easier ban Russian cheater so it will calm dawn morons from forum and ensure their love
just quick search
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/my-hacks-%28fun-color-editing%29/msg941243/?topicseen#msg941243
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/h0w-to-b3-g00d-w1th-free-downl0ad/msg1052122/?topicseen#msg1052122
@Vovka
yep that's the 2 topics i was trying to 'hide' it's from 1 year ago and look :D who's 'inside' of this topic, beta testers/admin's head admins etc :D
so i will write it again if some is brain damaged to max level, showing moral line in 2016 on Russian Cucumber Pindor is ok?
cherry on the cake :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
'lel at all the infamy
Is there a way to color only the arrows?' (c) Prpavi [on the second page]
hahahahaaha piece of shit forum hero :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
proof I ever used any mods, no? ok then..
nah m8 you're still a piece of shit allong with your "brothers" and 1k keys you bought for strat and if this was a regular game not a player starving indie mod your asses would be blanked banned forever.
also still looking for the mods, you know anybody that can give me the link?
I would have told you an interesting story of my time spend in The Mercenaries and the multi-accounting that took place there on strat... but its an old story and those people guilty of it have been long gone.
But those were europian players, so who cares huh?
Pandor was banned NOT by an EU admin, NOT by an NA admin. He was banned by Dupre, who counts as a global admin, as a TEMPORARY measure, untill the active admins from both regions decide his fate in an on-going discussion, which ends in a few days.
Pandor was banned for SHARING CHEATS, specifically that.
His ban, at the moment, is not permanent. More information will be released in a couple days.
Was he banned for using the cheats? No. Did it influence the decision regarding his ban? No.
Is it completely alright to mod your textures? Without any control in place, the only thing that controls it is players morality :wink:
Can we, at this moment, somehow control what files do players use? No. Therefore, unless that last thing changes, we just won't bother ourselves with claims that someone uses a cheat.
BUT IF YOU SHARE THE CHEAT ON THE GAME FORUM AND INVITE EVERYONE TO USE IT, there's hardly any defence left for you, you admit to doing a thing that is, by common sense, wrong - you share a game exploit. And pleading guilty is the top evidence.
Uthyr, interesting ideas, but Native arrows are a lot wider and a lot easier to see then regular crpg arrows, and if u say green arrows give advantage then those do too. Should be all or nothing.
Hm and i don't follow the logic, you said its not against the rules to use them, then why is it against the rules to share them, because that one u just made up for this special case. Because i haven't seen such rule.
People discuss this mods on forums, post screenshoots, how would pandor guess that there is a rule that no one ever talked about.
we found at list 3-4 ppl in this thread to ban, for the same thing.
Don't get me wrong, i would be up for forced remove of all mods! all! The problem i have is with fairness of the situation. Either all should be banned for it, or none. U can't just pick a guy and ban him like that. Of course u wouldn't do that to ur buddies or other players u know for ages, u'd probably give them warning or just laugh about it.
I don't follow the ban threads but was there anyone banned before for doing something that wasn't included in server rules?
After admin BlackBow on eu1 explaining to me for an hour why he hates all russians and that they should fuck off the server and insulting us on regular basis. I have hard time to believe in admins judgement. He is obviously not the only one doing that, but he is admin. If people like him decide on who to ban, then i'm worried.
Ok, are you seriously trying to tell us he was using the arrows just because they looked good? Are you trying to tell us they did not give him some sort of advantage? Ofc they give advantage, but he was the one douchy enough to brag about it and enchourage people to gain unfair advantage by sharing them. Does he understand why that is wrong? I get you are buddies and all and you're trying to defend his case but making this all about everybody hates russians qq is no the way of doing it.
So where is the rule that its ok to use coloured arrows and not allowed to brag about it?
If it's a cheat then he should be banned for cheating (perhaps in addition to sharing it). If it isn't a cheat than he shouldn't be banned for sharing it. The real problem is there is no detection system in place for what exactly is modified in a persons file. In this case you can use a "common sense" and ban him for cheating at some point in time or a "legal sense" and say you can't ban him because you can't prove he's still cheating.
This whole "He should only be banned for sharing the cheat and not using it" is frankly ridiculous. Common sense would dictate you ban him for cheating and for sharing it. Then again common sense is only a catch all phrase in this community so the admins and devs can change the rules retroactively when things they did not foresee come up. Which is a fine thing to do actually, just wished you didn't call it common sense, cause as we can clearly see from this debacle it's anything but common or sensical.
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I said it's not against the rules to use them because we have physically no means of controlling and viewing it when someone uses them or not, unless a file check would be added, but that is unlikely. The only deterrent we have is to prohibit sharing it, so as few people use it as possible. Sadly that's the reality, there is hardly a point in making a rule that we cannot enforce, that law is void then.(click to show/hide)
If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
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First thread happened when I wasn't an admin, 2nd when I was only a trial admin - not much I could do...Why do you feel it to be necessary to excuse yourself from some things, if you had no saying in it? perhaps your taking it to personal. But were not talking about you specificly, were talking about mods/admin team in general.
It all boils down to Krems being the only clean clan in crpg left.
Simply because we don't give a damn about our performances as long as we're having fun.
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14 pages of people arguing over whether or not Pandor should be unbanned, while Pandor himself clearly doesn't give a shit about the whole thing, that's kinda funny. Clearly if he did, he would write something more persuasive than a sarcastic story.
While using colored textures might be somewhat tolerable since you can't really forbid it properly, openly sharing such things obviously isn't tolerable, the ban is justified and even Pandor himself doesn't care enough to argue on it, yet other people do somehow. :rolleyes:
14 pages of people arguing over whether or not Pandor should be unbanned, while Pandor himself clearly doesn't give a shit about the whole thing, that's kinda funny. Clearly if he did, he would write something more persuasive than a sarcastic story.
While using colored textures might be somewhat tolerable since you can't really forbid it properly, openly sharing such things obviously isn't tolerable, the ban is justified and even Pandor himself doesn't care enough to argue on it, yet other people do somehow. :rolleyes:
Absurd, and repeated over and over. "its tolerable since you can't forbid it properly" - u can, put a rule up, u can't work out if anyone using it but if they caught should be banned then. Where is a rule about "openly sharing" forbidden??? Thats the problem they see it on forum, videos, streams and u think its normal if they use it then why not. And then sharing of this is somehow forbidden even tho nobody ever discussed it.By saying you can't forbid it properly I mean that you can't make sure people don't use it, and indeed you can't. Still doesn't mean it's ok.
He's probably just created another account and is playing on that >_<So not a big deal then, everyone is happy.
Penis.All of a sudden, here you come uglifying Panos' nickname, now that's really rude!
14 pages of people arguing over whether or not Pandor should be unbanned
By saying you can't forbid it properly I mean that you can't make sure people don't use it, and indeed you can't. Still doesn't mean it's ok.
And yes, no rule specifically forbids sharing any of such things, that's where my subjective "common sense" rule comes into play: I mean, come on, how douchy do you have to be to do something like that. But I'm no admin (fortunately, I guess), so my opinion doesn't really matter much.
Wouldn't you agree though, that openly sharing something considered a cheat is a harsher misdoing than just using it by yourself?
So not a big deal then, everyone is happy.
permamuted is not something even close to permaban. If u didn't want him to share it on forum, u could also permamute him. It doesn't stop u from playing.
About rules, still i don't get it. U said its not against the rules because u have no means to check it. If thats the only reason then why don't u ban those who posted screenshoots and videos on this forum, they exposed themselves and should be banned too? Because u 100% know that they use them, its on screenshoots!
Let me rephrase - I can't affect it, so I won't shoot blindly at people i think are cheating without any proof. Care wasn't the clearest word to use.
I said it's not against the rules to use them
banana republic ahoy!"
These rules apply to official servers:
- EU_cRPG_x (1,2,3,4,5,6,8)
- NA_cRPG_x (1,2,3,6)
If your common sense is not working, here are some more specific guidelines. This is not an explicit list, common sense always overrides disputes. Do not come crying "it's not prohibited in the rules" if you invent a new creative way to be an idiot and get punished.
Pandor is banned for trying to provide unfair/unrealistic/unapproved texture changes to the community. http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/join-the-resistance-and-get-blaster-for-free/ (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/join-the-resistance-and-get-blaster-for-free/) and if you think using these arrow texture changes is fair to the community, you're an idiot and deserve to be banned.
Has nothing to do with him being Russian or anything to do with race.
Ban is temporary. No more of these arrow texture changes, if you get caught, banned for a long time or permanent. I'll create an approved list and post it.
BTW Uther didn't ban Pandor, I did.
If CMP made that rule in 2011 for the admins to act upon.
The admin team sure missed alot of idiots that found creative ways gain to an advantage.
Shameful it had to start with Pandor in 2016
Unfortunately the admin team in the past I guess didn't really care or take action on incidents like Pandors. To me, these texture changes are completely unfair and you can tell by the communities reaction that most think the same.
Unfortunately the admin team in the past I guess didn't really care or take action on incidents like Pandors. To me, these texture changes are completely unfair and you can tell by the communities reaction that most think the same.
I agree, but players reaction often based on hate to UIF, russians, archers. Other posts and screenshoots from players went unnoticed and with no reaction.
I'm sure that if u post proposition to ban all DRZ players for example for no reason, u will get a lot of support from anti uif players + blackbow will be first to demand it, since its his dream to kick us out from crpg.
Unfortunately the admin team in the past I guess didn't really care or take action on incidents like Pandors. To me, these texture changes are completely unfair and you can tell by the communities reaction that most think the same.
Now your just spitting bullshit and posting shit from 2014.
I know its old, but why they wasn't banned? Not enough people raged in the topic?
Because that was then and this is now.
Dude, it's from a year ago, if you seriously think nothing has changed since then you're a fool.
what have changed>? rules or admins? or the target of ban?
We (in-game only admins) never had much of a leverage or decision power on these specific situations, other than report to the dev team since it was their call in the end regarding hacking/cheating issues. Pretty much what we did with this case now.
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Erm.. did you read all the pages?Can't say I've read every post, but yeah, I went through all the pages. Did I miss something?
I wish the issue was that narrow and simple.
problem is - was it considered a cheat?I think you're missing the point. Try asking this question:
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If its considered a cheat why those who posted their screenshoots with pink arrows wasn't banned?
So what this message says, everyone can use it just not to share it on forum. Interesting.Yeah I think that's right. As long as very few people use it, it's not a big deal. If it's openly shared and published, then it's a problem.
Can't say I've read every post, but yeah, I went through all the pages. Did I miss something?
I think you're missing the point. Try asking this question:Answer is Yes
Has anyone in the past shared the semi-cheating shit on forums and got away with it unpunished?
I believe the answer is no.
You didnt, yes you missed alot.Well, shit. My whole point kinda went out the window.
Pandor is banned for trying to provide unfair/unrealistic/unapproved texture changes to the community. http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/join-the-resistance-and-get-blaster-for-free/ (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/join-the-resistance-and-get-blaster-for-free/) and if you think using these arrow texture changes is fair to the community, you're an idiot and deserve to be banned.
Has nothing to do with him being Russian or anything to do with race.
Ban is temporary. No more of these arrow texture changes, if you get caught, banned for a long time or permanent. I'll create an approved list and post it.
BTW Uther didn't ban Pandor, I did.
Quote from: Nebun on March 19, 2016, 08:22:37 pm
I agree, but players reaction often based on hate to UIF, russians, archers. Other posts and screenshoots from players went unnoticed and with no reaction.
I'm sure that if u post proposition to ban all DRZ players for example for no reason, u will get a lot of support from anti uif players + blackbow will be first to demand it, since its his dream to kick us out from crpg.
Now your just spitting bullshit and posting shit from 2014.
u should go on eu1 and watch that rusophob peace of trash...today, in 2016...not in 2014 when he wasnt an adminSays the guy who has been banned several times for team killing, team hitting lately and leeching just yesterday.
Says the guy who has been banned several times for team killing, team hitting lately and leeching just yesterday.
In case you're Russian, stop feeding the stereotype, please.
here u go lol) do u rly think that im breaking rules just bcoz im russian? or idk...panos muted all the just bcoz he is greek? wtf u chocolate chip cookie scum talking aboutPlease, keep proving their points :lol:
only good thing that came out of russia in this mod is ivani4, now that he's gone you have nothing!They say Ivani4 modified his textures too, he made other players' weapons invisible!
Please, keep proving their points :lol:
whos points? i heard it from u bitch. tons of ppl was banned and will be banned, but u and other shit like u trying bring it in nationality stuf. admin spreading rusophob shit on eu1, your points is:"its ok, coz u r russian and u was banned yesterday" and u r...green nickname whats this? moderator?)You might wanna go to my first post on this page and re-read it because it's rather obvious you did not understand it.
i heard it from u bitch....krems scum.
Please, keep proving their points :lol:
Says the guy who has been banned several times for team killing, team hitting lately and leeching just yesterday.He gave me his looms and what have you done, first do the same then judge :lol:
In case you're Russian, stop feeding the stereotype, please.
He gave me his looms and what have you doneman, that's some signature-worthy shit :lol:
Aw this is pure gold, 10 posts no avatar guys coming out the woodwork posting sig worthy gems, pls send more goons I'm loving this.
man, that's some signature-worthy shit :lol:
Many Krems leech everyday and use macro voice spam until brain damage but nobody care because some fin is here developer.
use macro voice spam until brain damage
macro voice spam
14 pages of people arguing over whether or not Pandor should be unbanned, while Pandor himself clearly doesn't give a shit about the whole thing, that's kinda funny. Clearly if he did, he would write something more persuasive than a sarcastic story.Seems like u dont bother ureself with reading, i argue alot in previous threads, and i found it useless to talk with touse ppl. Simple example:
While using colored textures might be somewhat tolerable since you can't really forbid it properly, openly sharing such things obviously isn't tolerable, the ban is justified and even Pandor himself doesn't care enough to argue on it, yet other people do somehow. :rolleyes:
He wasnt banned because he was a cheating scumbag that posted his own evidence against himself and taunted admins, and even provided a link for downloading the modified textures.After 5 pages of facts why this ban look like racism.
No, no, no, He was banned because he was Russian!!!!!111111one GASP
Injustice!!!!!111
Naci Badmins cyka
Here is how the situation went down in the day after Pandor posted his thread, and AFTER he was asked to remove the link but it was still thereWell thats a lie, link was removed instantly after i was asked.
He gave me his looms and what have you done, first do the same then judge :lol:
Many Krems leech everyday and use macro voice spam until brain damage but nobody care because some fin is here developer.
And if Blackbow or some yugo trash talk about russians then:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk5DcZ-rDNI
here u go lol) do u rly think that im breaking rules just bcoz im russian? or idk...panos muted all the just bcoz he is greek? wtf u chocolate chip cookie scum talking about
Good impromptu post littered with sarcasm.
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac and what it means to be American.
You have until I get a forum moderator to remove this thread to remove that link; If you fail to do so before I get a moderator you will be permanently banned.
He will never be allowed to post on the forums again if I have any say in it. Also my threat of permanent ban is without appeal if conditions are not met.
Also be sure to go and remove all of your other evidence of cheating from this forum; I will be opening a discussion to see what is to be done about you in the mean time.... even tho he has been Admin in ?-2013-2014 till november and got re-assgined on ?date? , but totally missed all those other cheat distribution threads, screenshots, video's?
I have no barbie too :lol:
Wai? You have something against barbie?Is he a racist? Barbie-phob??? ((((((((((
I like real pi...s :lol:
You like real pidors? Ok man, your sexual preference is your choice, I bet it's not easy being openly gay in russia I commend your bravery.
I think this person should write and essay on , why its dumb and pointless to attempt to win the love of the forum idiots by making stupid jokes that adress Pandor being russian in a way, even if it was sarcasm or because its popular and trending on this forum , and by doing so even adding more insult to injury to a player that already got banned.
And when shit starts also because of his actions, then simply vanishes and not take responsibility for his actions. I dunno since we havent heard of him we can only assume, or is this simply something we can keep expecting and take for granted in these situations?
Im not taunting, im simply curious why all this sudden he left the scene and let other admins clean up behind him.
Admin Nightingale, from start was ontop of the whole ban thing on Pandor with devotion. ... even tho he has been Admin in ?-2013-2014 till november and got re-assgined on ?date? , but totally missed all those other cheat distribution threads, screenshots, video's?
Or am i wrong to question this and ask for clearance? I believe that everything that has some kind of status also has some sort of power, and history tells us that power will always corrupt... unless we question it and are allowed to. If it can no longer be questioned... then we wil get some scary situatons, like dictators etc..
Are you prefer stfu?
Hey brave Croatians ! You need barrel of ice water after posting.
Be like real hero and do the same 2 times in the row !
No, I have not missed the other threads with screenshots and other videos. The primary difference is they did not give access to the cheating material for everyone to use and publically flaunt it on the forums as if to be advertising.
The reason for my immediate action regarding Pandor is not unwarranted; He posted access to cheating. Multiple admins were already discussing tag team banning him (Bronto NA and Tamra EU) and Uther had already verbally warned Pandor? Twice? No, I have not missed the other threads with screenshots and other videos. The primary difference is they did not give access to the cheating material for everyone to use and publically flaunt it on the forums as if to be advertising.
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why try hard and fix game to make it better if it is easier ban Russian cheater so it will calm dawn morons from forum and ensure their love
just quick search
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/my-hacks-%28fun-color-editing%29/msg941243/?topicseen#msg941243
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/h0w-to-b3-g00d-w1th-free-downl0ad/msg1052122/?topicseen#msg1052122
Not sure what you mean - Pandor's initial response was a joke. So I responded with the same conviction he was addressing the admin team with. I don't know when or how you came to think I care about my perceived popularity on some game forum. He is wasting the entire admin team's time with his creation of this thread. Therefore, I have no respect for his time either.
Implying that I'm corrupted by my "internet power" is laughable but even still. I suppose you take your reputation on this game more seriously than I do so I can see why you feel compelled to question admin actions. Especially since in the past have cheated in this very same way.Please do point out where i imply that you specifically are corrupted.
Yesterday I bumped the conversation in admin forums as no specific ban duration has been decided. Though Permanent forum mute was pretty unanimous.
Yesterday I bumped the conversation in admin forums as no specific ban duration has been decided. Though Permanent forum mute was pretty unanimous. [/color]
Actually they did give access to the cheating metarial. Only difference is that Dupre edited the posts so there are no links anymore.
Admin Nightingale, from start was ontop of the whole ban thing on Pandor with devotion. ... even tho he has been Admin in ?-2013-2014 till november and got re-assgined on ?date? , but totally missed all those other cheat distribution threads, screenshots, video's?
No, I have not missed the other threads with screenshots and other videos. The primary difference is they did not give access to the cheating material.
Thanks for your response, but its only half a a response to the question i gave you. sure video and screenshots. np i can understand. But you're completely ignoring the Cheat Threads i asked you about, were they DID distribute them.
So ill post them again, but they are edited and links removed, since we brought them up.
Did Pandor in his "essay" adress any nationalities? No. By wich reason did you bring up his in a way ?
In the past cheated? the very same way? Please show me where i'm shooting green arrows boxes, like the one Pandor had.
And what has reputation to do with questioning people, you mean you need to have some sort of reputation or status to be allowed to do this? Im not only questioning admins, i questioned alot of players in this thread too, even friends.
What exactly makes you think, that i think i even have some sort of reputation and take this seriously?
It may sound like its not that bad, but after a week u still undecided on duration. It could take day, month or u just unban him after mele release.
Questioning admins judgement is good, if judgment is bad, we don't live in North Korea or Saudi Arabia so i guess it should be possible! Don't u agree Nightingale?
And having admins that openly hate and express they hate for other nations probably a bad idea. People like this should be regular players with occasional bans like Panos gets all the time.
And don't feed us that common sense crap, it just means u can do what u want and justify with this.
A little research on youtube and found a lot more cheaters, without bushes or leaves etc. They play this game and feel just great, and guess what they not in UIF.
If this in a grey area and u don't know how to act u should have given clear warning instead of perma ban. Remove his thread or make him remove link - which he did!
If we have this situation right now with Pindor, it means u've done a bad job over the year by not making proper rules, since this cheats showed up on this forums in the past. U could have working something out back then.
And it doesn't matter if u can find out how many ppl cheat, because some will always fuck up and post it on forum or utube and at list u can ban those and put fear into others.
@GurniHow about proof?
rofl,u need a printscreen portfolio :?: :lol:
Do you have examples of Blackbow's racism towards russians?
this arrow hack is pure shame true archers dont need dis ...
those russians always need to hax coz bad ... crpg made me racist against dem !!
How about proof?
And we're not talking random snippets from some diplomacy strat thread but circumstances he clearly expressed anti-Russian sentiments while acting as an admin.
+ Eu1 every time druzhinas archers are online.
Shittalking is not racism, its much more an important component of crpg :lol:
I didn't make screenshoots because didn't think i will need to mention this anywhere and didn't plan to ban him. But i'm sure a lot of ppl who play at night knows and i can only call witnesses. Like Lunasa said for example. I've had discussion with him about this for a good bit of time right in the chat and everyone read it. So not hard to work out.Well, if you wanna file an official complaint, I'm afraid witnesses are not good enough of proof.
I wouldn't even bring it up if not for this situation.
He isn't the only one who is doing that, but only one that i've seen from admins.
I could understand him hating Pindor for green arrows or me for headshooting him all the time, but i don't understand what does it have to do with russian nation.
I'm personally against radical nationalism of any kind and hate on national level. I dislike BBow too now for what he said multiple times, but i can't say i hate all french because of him or they all scum of the world, because its stupid.
TO HESKEYTIME:
if as they said they will discuss this situation with all admins and make them vote or something on this issue that means BBow will be there too. So all connected
+ Eu1 every time druzhinas archers are online.
And he calls me a swedish pussy and my playstyle as "russian". Never been banned for either... It's just banter and everyone knows Blackbow isn't a badmin, just bad.
So why would any admin in their right-mind ever consider unbanning you?
I still believe that its not actually cheat.
I can't believe people are raging over the fact that tinkering with your models and textures client side should be restricted or overseen.
Now here is a suggestion. Some servers have the restriction on, some have it off, and you can decide where you want to play. And if you really want to play with your unicorn on the restricted servers, you put it into the review process.
Some people really find something rageworthy in every little thing...
yes
I'll have dupre remove the link later; I don't particularly recall L1fe's thread which is convenient for me I suppose.Thanks, you proven a point.
Shittalking is key component to any community i can enjoy, this is why vanguard is best guard.
I feel like I'm missing something here, I don't see many VG's whining in game or out, to be honest I've found it's mostly mercs that do the most whining (At least in game), idk, maybe you're in the server when I'm not..?
I feel like I'm missing something here, I don't see many VG's whining in game or out, to be honest I've found it's mostly mercs that do the most whining (At least in game), idk, maybe you're in the server when I'm not..?
Ok just to end this all for me, i would like to know.I feel save to say that the permanent ban is most likely not going to happen which is partly due to this topic.
Did any of the admins think that ban was unfair considering all provided info in this topic? Maybe some changed their mind?
I feel save to say that the permanent ban is most likely not going to happen which is partly due to this topic.This. But one might ban Pandor on the forums to protect us from his retardness. Just what the poll in the admin section led to.
Well obviously because youre never on teamspeak, we trashtalk eachother quite a lot, a ton some would say. At least the byzantium part, and rufio.True, I don't come on the TS often :p
I only trashtalk corsair
I hope it's not too much due to this topic.
The only point you've managed to prove is your inability to read. I highly recommend general education. It will give you the tools to improve your abilities with reading comprehension and properly communicate your expressed opinions.
I've just now come to realize that you've been a complete and utter waste my time; Dupre already responded to your questions, answered them, explained the situation. Uthyr has done the same and a great many of other people. I've also answered your questions unaware that they had been answered upwards of 3 to however many times. Stop wasting people's time.
He's possibly the least senior admin out of all of them. And although I'm willing to believe a discussion was had with certain admins, this ban was made by Dupre in a time where Dupre notoriously doesn't respond to PMs or messages even from other admins. Benefit of the doubt that maybe he read some of the discussion, but I think it's likely he made up his own mind.
So why would any admin in their right-mind ever consider unbanning you?
So do mine it seems :cry:
I try my best to answer all PMs! :lol: Sometimes I get a bunch which overlap the new ones on the front page in my inbox and I end up forgetting about them for a bit.
So do mine it seems :cry:Keep up the spam! It's gonna provoke a reaction at some point :lol:
Oh yeah, well corsair trolls anyone not bright enough to see his obvious traps. Corsair deserves it :)
Oh yeah, well corsair trolls anyone not bright enough to see his obvious traps. Corsair deserves it :)He even went as far as calling my English good once, this fucking troll :evil:
He even went as far as calling my English good once, this fucking troll :evil:
in all games, hackers get ban for life.
crpg should be the first who allow hackers to come back ?
no !
better go buy a new warband key it's probably cost nothing in russia!
We are currently deciding if your essay ban should be about the history of the big mac and what it means to be American.
Heskey and Bronto, he was never permabanned as a final measure - it was Dupre's temporary ban untill his ACTUAL fate is decided.
Not ONCE in this discussion did we say "Ok he is permanently banned but we're considering being merciful for him because crybabies are strong", he was temporarily banned with no set unban date untill a decision is met.
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See and if I had the yellow boxes I could be included but alas no one has been kind enough to grant me entrance into the forum side of being an admin. I thought that a permanent ban was discussed with a 5000 word essay when this was going down by an admin I know. Weird.I didn't deny that;
So, when will the council of supreme nerd virgins assemble?
I hope they chop off a chikens head like in south park and decide where the body lands. Maybe sacrafice a donkey and look at its entrails for signs from chadz. Basically only way to contact him now that he is busy.
Don't worry Pandor, I got you covered mate.(click to show/hide)
Hope this helps you Pandor. Unless the essay will be about something else. Then good luck.
If someone comes back and attempts to sound sorry enough we even unban them for autoblocker or multiaccounting ban waves in the past (if the devs ever check those threads still).
Don't worry Pandor, I got you covered mate.(click to show/hide)
Hope this helps you Pandor. Unless the essay will be about something else. Then good luck.
Don't forget my diet. :lol:
Wow you're retarded
Switch, this story changed my life! And if i could, i would ban and unban u as many times as u wish :D
But i have to know one thing. In the end: Did she die? did she die? did she die?
Don't forget my diet. :lol:
Wow you're retarded
I wish I could tell you, but that would spoil the sequel now, wouldn't it?Do you say SeQuel was spoiled?
Here we go, sequel spoiled. Thanks Obama.
Heskey I just made a pizza for a friend of mine. What did you do, aside from wasting your life playing cRPG and commenting on forums between rounds?Don't understand how it making pizza for a friend not a waste of life?
Heskey I just made a pizza for a friend of mine. What did you do, aside from wasting your life playing cRPG and commenting on forums between rounds?
It's not something I do every day and is always different experience, unlike playing cRPG or posting on these forums. Doing same crap over and over and over again... that's cRPG in nutshell.