Dracul is bad
BIRD CLAN
Fuck Raven
Worstmin, band me for no reason, what a dofusdick.
edit: badmin or like my old friendmin get real chump
This guy is already being an A+ goodmin!
This guy is already being an F- piece of shit abooz ban plez gg nerd gottem scrub rip in piece
I am pretty bad. I kicked a guy for being AFK in the corner of a map, some straight up abuse.
BIRD CLAN
Here is something more concrete on what you need to fix about yourself to not be a badmin.
*No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)
(from the link YOU posted to the poor guy making a request)
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-request-occitan_mobile/
Fairly confident it goes under the COMMON SENSE rule not to tk your teammates, even at the end of the round. It's griefing, especially if you are trying to get good stats.
Here is something more concrete on what you need to fix about yourself to not be a badmin.
*No intentional teamwounding/teamkilling during a round (teamkilling friends after a round ends is allowed, teamkilling random people is not)
(from the link YOU posted to the poor guy making a request)
http://forum.meleegaming.com/na-%28official%29/ban-request-occitan_mobile/
Fairly confident it goes under the COMMON SENSE rule not to tk your teammates, even at the end of the round. It's griefing, especially if you are trying to get good stats.
Hmm, my bad, I do apologize for this incident but in my past I've never seen anybody get banned over end of the round team killing. However, team killing near the end of the round, has always been of question.
I'll see that this problem is dealt with responsibly, thank you for your criticism and patience.
I AM THE LAW
I fixed it for you. Don't break character again.
Hmm, my bad, I do apologize for this incident but in my past I've never seen anybody get banned over end of the round team killing. However, team killing near the end of the round, has always been of question.
I'll see that this problem is dealt with responsibly, thank you for your criticism and patience.
Well, not saying he should be banned or anything, just pointed out the fault in telling the new player it was ok. Also, it's pretty damn annoying to get TK'd at the end of the round. I just don't want arbitrary admins =) But you seem like you'll do a good job
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mr dreads, it seems you are doing an unbiased work so far. gj =)
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Just so you all know, if Artyem is admining and you do this...
You only get a 6 hour ban.
Next time use I chat if an admin is online, it generally provides better results.
I doubt you would have added any time to that ban. Either way, good work! My first offense was a 24 hour ban for tking some one blocking a doorway.
My apologies for having different work ethics, but it still stands true that you should report him if there is an admin quite clearly present, I didn't even see any m reports.
You're a fucking bitch Arytem you don't know half the shit that happened. This bundle of sticks Dionysous rages after I m him so next round he decides after I go 8-0 and kill the last guy that he will bonk me on the head. Then he says nice 8-0 score Firebus. I guess he was mad that I med him so I tryed to help him next round but accidentally hit him 2 times and I apologized if you read the logs. It was an accident and I didn't get to fucking post on the ban thread because you fucking locked it before I even saw it was there. This fucking pig is a lieing bitch it was an accident god damn it. THIS GAME IS SUPPOSED TO RELIEVE STRESS BUT THIS FUCKING BITCH CREATED IT WITH HIS FUCKING TROLL BAN THREAD.
The ad hominem was really unnecessary and only brought further levity to your argument, which most certainly doesn't help your case. Such petulant and obnoxious behavior only brings you more discredit.
Hmm, my bad, I do apologize for this incident but in my past I've never seen anybody get banned over end of the round team killing. However, team killing near the end of the round, has always been of question.
I'll see that this problem is dealt with responsibly, thank you for your criticism and patience.
for being "the law" you sure seem like you don't know dick about "the law" you're responsible for upholding.
here's a thought, read what is and what isn't against "the law" in crpg ---> http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/
and if you do know, you don't seem to care unless it involves you or someone you're associated with.
closing thought: you seem less like an admin and more like a refined troll with some power. i prefer ganner to you at this point
for being "the law" you sure seem like you don't know dick about "the law" you're responsible for upholding.
here's a thought, read what is and what isn't against "the law" in crpg ---> http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/
and if you do know, you don't seem to care unless it involves you or someone you're associated with.
closing thought: you seem less like an admin and more like a refined troll with some power. i prefer ganner to you at this point
Hey Arty, You are a badmin.
good job telling time; still doesn't negate what I said or how I feel about your ability to be a responsible admin
It's also from a month ago, but I appreciate the effort.
And GG at putting words into my mouth i guess. i never brought up mobile or any evidence regarding a recent ban, I'm commenting on you, as this thread was made for that
The only case you've brought to the table was between people I literally have no true affiliation with. Mobile is in Occitan, and he was let go with a warning (whether I was under the impression he broke the rules or not). I don't really have the greatest history with Occitan, so if your evidence backs anything it's that the decision was unbiased.
You remnant guys are funny. Half of you troll the servers every single day. The one time one of you gets caught actually breaking the rules and openly admits it, you all get bitchy. Well done Artyem, keep on banning these shitheads. Hopefully they learn their lesson (they wont) eventually.
and to you good sir, I would say fuck off, and then point you to what I just said to arty (I'm not complaining about anything in particular he's done to me or my clan mates. I don't care really. but shouldn't the person with the power to ban you from a game have a little insight on what the rules are for said game...instead of just winging it. cause that's what it feels like. not abuse, just laziness)
good job telling time; still doesn't negate what I said or how I feel about your ability to be a responsible admin
And GG at putting words into my mouth i guess. i never brought up mobile or any evidence regarding a recent ban, I'm commenting on you, as this thread was made for that
you don't seem to care unless it involves you or someone you're associated with.
I'm not complaining about anything in particular he's done to me or my clan mates. I don't care really. but shouldn't the person with the power to ban you from a game have a little insight on what the rules are for said game...instead of just winging it. cause that's what it feels like. not abuse, just laziness[/b]
with all that said, as i have hated and loved ganner. I am not against coming around to <3 you too.
you asked us to bitch about you here, so i did.
i don't think you need admin, but I'm sure you could change that and be better than ganner.
Well, can't say I'm surprised. The new poll is now up, who would play THE GOBBLIN KING?
Just want to say nice job with some of those tricky ban requests I was unsure about even touching.
As much as I like Arty as an Admin I will have to voice my complaint.
Through ordinary circumstances as far as cRPG goes, we can see horse archers, crossbowmen, regular straight up gunghoe archers, go about there business shooting and flopping like the rest of the hold of teammates have to offer. Shoot... and... miss... for 6+ minutes on end and if they survive into the wee bits of time? No biggy, combat is ongoing despite the shit tolerance during peek NA play.
But when it comes to 3am+ it's serious business.
I'm sorry, but time differentiation does play an effect despite player basis.
If you can tolerate the nonsense then, then glaring at red death and myself who has no part in my anger is nonsensical and bullshit.
As much as I'd enjoy finding decent admins to placate too I've lost faith in another, as far as NA admins go... EU's not making long strides in depending on either...
But the fact I was banned on such a simplicity and slight of time really does bother me.
I play serious.
I'm rule conscientious.
The reason I was banned, is arguable, i can't say you're wrong because in all reality to this system... My fucks could give not.
I'm bummed, and in all honesty it gives more inclination to the wedge that drives me and others from this game.
Not that arty was involved whatsoever, but friends have been banned based on simple 'Q' chat spam. If using a vocal, non-combat effective spam is equatable to hourly/daily/monthly ban then we either need to rethink functions or rethink Admin applicants.
All in all, I'm of the opinion that you took your powers too far. I've seen your shit. And it's weak that I'm dealing with a bus this time.
In my opinion, if this was during a decent hour I'd flip shit, however, you banned me off peak, so fuck me right?
Thanks.
Not that arty was involved whatsoever, but friends have been banned based on simple 'Q' chat spam. If using a vocal, non-combat effective spam is equatable to hourly/daily/monthly ban then we either need to rethink functions or rethink Admin applicants.
It doesn't matter what time it is, if you're breaking the rules and in turn ruining the fun for other players, you'll be punished. It may have been 3:00 AM where you are, but it was only 12:00 AM where I am, and for some players it was as early as 9:00 PM.I understand that your goal is enjoyment for everyone, however, a simple kick would have sufficed.
I get what you're saying though, watching horse archers spend more than half the round riding away from the enemy team is very irritating. But as long as people are still actively shooting at each other, the rules aren't being broken. There's a huge difference between trying to save your multiplier and drawing the round out and actively delaying the round by basically AFKing when you're the last two people alive.
I do my best to treat everybody as equals, I'm sorry if you're upset by the way I handled the situation, I wasn't fully up to date at first, so when the ban thread came up it gave me more info to work with.
Ultimately, it's important to remember that not everybody has fun the same way you do. You may have seen it as late night shenanigans, but to the others it could have been prime time delaying.
I've never seen anybody get banned for 'Q' chat spam, but I'd agree with you that it's over the top. We have a mute and a kick function for a reason.
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The whole point of giving a ban is to make sure you won't do it again. I only gave you a six hour ban, I'm sure there are plenty of admins who would have given a much longer punishment.
Regardless, you broke the rules, I banned you, your ban is over. In your opinion a 6 hour ban was too much, other people on the server complained because they thought the ban was too short.
I don't even know what situation you're referring to then, I joined in time to watch you kill two teammates, banned you, and then played a few rounds and left. At what point were you getting killed within range of me? I mean, honestly, if I missed it then it was an honest mistake. I barely even have an active clan to be biased towards, I just don't understand your accusation at this point.It looks to me since playing this game that you just admin for your friends and heavily biased to anyone else.
I mean, I can't really argue, do you have any examples?Those posting complaints in this thread all have one thing in common and that involves your clan makes which is normal for you but it involves them doing wrong and never getting in trouble while non clan members always get banned in the argument or griefing taking place. It has never happened to me by you but I've witnessed many times. This thread is feedback so take my advice and adjust your ways and not post YouTube videos as replies.
I've seen other admins like for example ganner, san, and muki ban their friends or clan members but never seen you get involved unless a friend/clan member ask to you to get involved.
Those posting complaints in this thread all have one thing in common and that involves your clan makes which is normal for you but it involves them doing wrong and never getting in trouble
while non clan members always get banned in the argument or griefing taking place.
I've seen other admins like for example ganner, san, and muki ban their friends or clan members but never seen you get involved unless a friend/clan member ask to you to get involved.
One team mate, Kinben. You spawned in right behind me. Said "wtf" in general chat and then immediately banned me for 25 hours. Ignoring the revenge TWers who were attacking me after the TK but before the ban.
Under scrutiny this statement is a bunch of malarkey. There are 4 "active" Dracul members (and by active I mean they play maybe twice a week). Larry, Artyem, HappyPhantom, Khako. How is Artyem expected to ban people who barely even play the game.Guess you aren't active yourself or care not to see what is happening but hey this is feedback from a player that has no ban history with the admin. I do not like most of the people he has complains against him in this thread but I do agree with their complaints but I've see what has happened first hand. Aye he is doing his job but only when it suits his friend and himself not the community. My only direct involvement with artyem is him constantly not responding to complaints I've had against players in the server. Maybe if I had the dracul or raven tag he would respond and that is the reason i'm providing this feedback. This has not happened just a few times but a lot and artyem is not a reliable admin and just choices to ignore his duties.
Now as far as banning his friends... The Ravens have a joint banner with Dracul. If a Raven member gets banned or warned for any reason they get reprimanded from Hungry or myself immediately. We do not allow trolls, greifers, teamwounders, or teamkillers into the clan at all and if its discovered they are one, they do not last long in the clan. So Artyem has little reason to be banning his friends either. Next time Goretooth try thinking a bit before deciding to take a stand against an admin who is actually doing his job and admits to his mistakes when there is a issue. (see previous posts in this very thread)
Guess you aren't active yourself or care not to see what is happening but hey this is feedback from a player that has no ban history with the admin. I do not like most of the people he has complains against him in this thread but I do agree with their complaints but I've see what has happened first hand. Aye he is doing his job but only when it suits his friend and himself not the community. My only direct involvement with artyem is him constantly not responding to complaints I've had against players in the server. Maybe if I had the dracul or raven tag he would respond and that is the reason i'm providing this feedback. This has not happened just a few times but a lot and artyem is not a reliable admin and just choices to ignore his duties.
So for proof of these claims you are providing nothing but hyperbole?is this the feedback section or the ban SECTION? I do not need to provide proof for my feedback about an admin to one of his clan members. lol if anything you are make it look worse for him.
is this the feedback section not the ban SECTION I do not need to provide proof for my feedback about an admin to one of his clan members. I need proof for my feedback? lol
If you are claiming bias, proof would be useful to the people reading this thread. Otherwise you come off as petulant.I'm giving my feedback is this not the feedback section for admins?
I'm giving my feedback is this not the feedback section for admins?
Feedback without substance is inherently not useful. We can agree to disagree on this one, Goretooth.aye I just randomly came into a random admin thread to cause drama and my feedback is all a big fraud :rolleyes:. If you cannot take feedback kindly don't look at this thread and post in it.
Looking over the logs, I don't see much in the way of taunting or instigating from either party.
Seems like a pretty simple teamkill though, 24 hour ban to Rhuell.
Pretty obviously intentional, 24 hours to Kemosabe_MB.
Stop killing your teammates.
i don't need to talk to you on steam. the rape victim hardly wants to sit down for a one on one with the rapist. it's very traumatic. i need a cold shower.
oops. sorry for whatever happened to you or your loved ones. but it's not gonna impinge infringe on my right to free speech and to be as big a sack of shit as i wanna be. thanks for the input.
i appreciate your point of view.
No, bro coding is against the rules, no doubt about it. But I would have only kicked him in game, why should that translate to a ban on the website?Kaoklai won the round for his team anyway
I told Kaoklai that his next ban would be an essay ban, but I'm not going to give somebody a ban if I don't think that the evidence adds up.
That would make me biased, but I'm sure anything I do is biased as long as it isn't in your favor.
No, bro coding is against the rules, no doubt about it. But I would have only kicked him in game, why should that translate to a ban on the website?I didnt say anything you did was biased, i said you didnt bother to follow up on anything, you didnt investigate any of it. you took the easiest route, and left it at that, thats whats disappointing. Not only that, but you overlook the pictures and the logs completely. Idk how in the fuck they dont add up, from his comments, to his actions in game. Seems rather cut and dry to me, but fuck me what do i know.
I told Kaoklai that his next ban would be an essay ban, but I'm not going to give somebody a ban if I don't think that the evidence adds up.
That would make me biased, but I'm sure anything I do is biased as long as it isn't in your favor.
You're right, sorry I didn't make an impulse decision in your favor.
Dracul clearly troll clan, where's Larry?Probably fucking a lion or whatever the hell he calls his perverse fetish.
I don't know really. So many people died in Johammeths DF story with Artyem being the head medic guy...
Seems like he cannot cope with responsibilty very well.
Then again, everybody died a gruesome death in the end. I will just assume he knew that and wanted to spare the other ones an even crueler death.
In this case. Keep up the great work :D
This has got to be the most logical argument ever presented in an admin feedback thread.
accidentally ff him : kick
rejoin server and respawn due to it being in first 30 seconds.
pink text about how i cant do that.
tell him dont kick for no reason bundle of sticks
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what the fuck why am i not writing my paper due in eleven hours
Too busy watching your profile gif.
Reared your horse once because you had been shadowing our teams frontline for like 2+ maps getting old and making everyone on your team deaf to the sound of other teams horses that were a real threat murdering us by the dozens, while you trot along doing jack shit for the team watching everyone die.
Reared your horse again accidentally because I'm paranoid and you were heading in my direction.
Kicked without warning. Was it a huge deal, no not exactly and yes I did deserve it to _some_ degree.
Maybe next time a warning is in order before you go doing whatever you please because you are taking things personally. If I had done this to anyone else I wouldnt have gotten kicked. There is a reason why it takes 5 reports to boot someone from server, just like Planetside grief system.
First time, I figured it was an accident. Second time, you reared my horse and then proceeded to hit me and my horse several times, killing my horse and taking out half of my health. You're right, if you had done it to anyone else you probably would have received a ban.
Honestly, it seems pointless to tell somebody "stop teamwounding!!1!!11" in pink text when they're in the middle of killing their teammate. Which is why I typically use kicks as warnings as they seem to be much more efficient at getting the point across.
Yep, that would have been a ban if it were me.
Artyem is a terrible player but it's not against the rules to be shit.
It's against the rules to teamwound though, and after years of playing, you should know that.
There's a 5/5 kick system in place to ensure people aren't griefing others intentionally with it.
If I see another player getting TK'd, I don't wait untill it hits 5/5 to make sure it was actually happening- I just kick the offender.
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I am really bad at the game, to be fair.
That's because you play it for fun like some noob instead of being a try hard. I mean seriously who does that?
That's because you play it for fun
You obviously need to spend more time with Dracul. This is as false as Arty is a shit player.
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Not sure what you are complaining about; the ban was justified; mcdeath does not have the right to force duels; IT is not a rule to allow the last player to duel... unwritten or not. However it is 100% against the current rule set to intentionally teamkill before the round is over and even after the round you can still find yourself banned for it.
The ban was justified and if not a bit to lenient in my opinion. Had I seen this he would probably be banned for a week for forcing duels and teamkilling someone intending to play the game as it was meant to be played. NA 3 is for duels go there if you want a "fair" fight.
1. Duels were agreed upon
2. He ran into my swings
3. I did not team kill ranod
4. I was griefied by Rando running into my swings
5. I did not force duels
6. THERE WERE NO ADMINS THERE AND THE ADMINS I AM FRIENDS WITH SAID THAT THIS SHOULD ONLY BE WORTH A KICK
7. Tagora gave me a ban on my record for no reason
8. This ban is worse than any ban I have gotten in Eu
1. Duels were agreed upon
2. He ran into my swings
3. I did not team kill ranod
4. I was griefied by Rando running into my swings
5. I did not force duels
6. THERE WERE NO ADMINS THERE AND THE ADMINS I AM FRIENDS WITH SAID THAT THIS SHOULD ONLY BE WORTH A KICK
7. Tagora gave me a ban on my record for no reason
8. This ban is worse than any ban I have gotten in Eu
I am really bad at the game, to be fair.
Dang i'd be impressed too
- made a decision you agree with
- made a decision you agree with
- made a decision that favoured you
- made a decision you agree with
- sucking up
-doesn't ignore my steam request
so are you the guy with random jibberish as a name? i simply never accepted this request because i get about 10 phishing scam adds a day on steam
That's cos it's equally as retarded. You've found one admin who made one decision that you liked on this one occasion. The moment you go full retard in his presence, or he makes a ruling you dont agree with or that doesnt favour you, you'll be bitching and flaming about him just like you do with every single other admin out there.
You do realise that Artyem isnt doing you any special favours right? He's following the rules as they're set out, you conveniently ignored the other admin in this thread that vouched for Artyem's decision so it's pretty clear how this is going to play out.
You're the most transparent person on this forum, kinda like a real life Eric Cartman but without all the humour. 'He banned me? Shit admin!', 'He accepted my ban request? Best admin!', 'A player i barely know got banned? OUTRAGEOUS!', 'A player i wanted to ban got banned? Yay admin!'
wait wot?
bro
ur doing it wrong man...u add FRIENDS to steam...u dont add people in high places simply cuz they are people in high places.
jesus...whats wrong with u?
i dont have arty cuz i dont know arty
i dont have poop cuz i dont know poop
lol also, its THEIR steam, they have no obligation to add u at all lol?
i have nightngale on steam who happens to be admin, jona too, i didnt add them to my steam cuz they were admins and i expected it of them, they are my friends, i know them very well, we used to date on DTV.
whats wrong with u?
wait wot?
bro
ur doing it wrong man...u add FRIENDS to steam...u dont add people in high places simply cuz they are people in high places.
jesus...whats wrong with u?
i dont have arty cuz i dont know arty
i dont have poop cuz i dont know poop
lol also, its THEIR steam, they have no obligation to add u at all lol?
i have nightngale on steam who happens to be admin, jona too, i didnt add them to my steam cuz they were admins and i expected it of them, they are my friends, i know them very well, we used to date on DTV.
whats wrong with u?
no your'e doing it wrong
jeades comment was completely innappropriate,
you must remove him from NA admins
(1) Had I responded to the thread before Arytem your punishment would have been this:
3x12 = 36 hrs
24x2 = 48 hrs
(Recent problems with names) - +1 day
Total ban time 4.5 days. Unban date would be 3/05/2016 at roughly 11 PM. Artyem's unban date for you is basically the same.
(2) Team-wounding took place in the screenshot also clear provocation of the person you team-wounded and team-killed.
(3) After the OP places the ban thread up his own personal wishes are no longer important he clearly was offended by your actions you broke the rules, just because afterwards he found out that you are his buddy doesn't give him any more say in the admin decision. Had he closed the thread before any admins responded then this would be a different story.
(4) We are not obligated to explain in every detail why you are banned: some of us do but its also just as easy for you to read the ban thread and then read Artyem's message about banned for impersonating and team-wounding.
(5) You are banned because you are attempting to impersonate another player trying to make him look bad and even get him banned, Recently this has happened and that person has to write an essay, had Arytem banned Darvuian instead due to your attempts at impersonating via very close looking names. You would be writing an essay as well and I might add is would have been completely justified.
(6) Bans can happen without the help of the logs; we are not obligated to investigate every last detail of a ban request: its at the admins discretion.
(7) Artyem is a fantastic admin. Not quick to judge and even asks other admins for opinions on bans before he places them. Just because you got caught doing shit you aren't suppose to do does not make Arytem biased or corrupted or even irrational however it does make you look like an idiot for crying so much on the forums over getting caught breaking the rules trying to get someone else banned for shit you were doing.
Honestly if I were in Artyem's position I would extend your ban time and apply an essay titled "Why its rude to waste people's time" Much like the most recent decision Dupre made on Bengem for trying to get Zlotz banned.
http://forum.melee.org/na-%28official%29/gobblinkingreatleader/
You like to share peoples private messages don't you? Its called private for a reason :rolleyes:
Sorry Nightingale, just trying to keep everything in its proper form and consolidate the threads
Yes, team wounds happen all the time, especially with team bumps when using cav which I was. Are every team wound bannable now? That is a hard thing to avoid in team fights. The provocation was taking way out of context. It is the reason I inquired about the logs. I killed an enemy player before I accidentally killed a teammate which I was referring my banter to. The enemy, not the friendly
Please read above, it had nothing to do about being a buddy. He thought I was a Gobblin who have been harassing him as a whole and my accidental TK took him over the edge.
Nothing in detail, just the official reason for a ban.
I admit about the similar name, but that is the far it goes. I made it be known that I was not the real GOBBLINKING and everyone figured it out right away without my banner. As far trying to make him look bad or trying to get him ban is just SLANDER. I played within the rules and never intentionally TK or made him look bad. You accusing me without any proof Nightingale.
When the accusation is TW and TK in group fights, don't you need a little bit of investigation? I stand by saying it was too quick of a ban for what it was for
Once again SLANDERING my good name. Never tried to get anyone banned. I don't understand why you think I was trying to get anyone banned. You name calling me though is a low blow. I wouldn't pass it by you though.
Also this is a feedback thread right? Why take it so personal? This is what this forum is for. Calling me names like idiots or saying I'm crying is pretty childish. def not something I would like to see from a Admin. I was giving MY FEEDBACK.
" The teamkill is questionable as idk the full situation to believe him or you would be wrong. Without logs as proof to validate either side. "
Its not slander; the intention in my honest opinion is very clear, you wouldn't use a name so similar if you did not intend this. All of your bans are recent; your behavior is worsening and when caught doing things you always make it complicated or state that its abuse or uncalled for etc. Even if you are being 100% honest in the fact you had no intention to slander by impersonating, You couldn't convince me otherwise with no amount of proof.
As for me +1'ing someone on the forums should have no correlation to my integrity. As above I stated that you always find reason to believe admin decisions are unjustified when against you. You are doing this again in a way that also makes no sense. "Artyem is irrational and corrupted admin because he banned you for impersonating." "I'm a biased admin that helps my friends." because clearly my decision to not take action on either person in that ban thread... was me knowing whoever it was you wanted to ban? or ban you. I don't remember.
if you are questioning my place in this thread its because I aided Artyem in deciding your punishment not because he is my friend.
Edit: Rondo, please stay on topic. This is a serious discussion.
Edit: Rondo, please stay on topic. This is a serious discussion.
This is a serious discussion.
(1)So your in fact saying guilty until proven innocent? I think that is backwards, that or your profiling. So much so that you are not making informative decisions and resort back to slandering and profiling
Just in case
Slander 1. Make false and damaging statements about (someone).
Profiling 1. The use of personal characteristics or behavior patterns to make generalizations about a person
Edit: Rondo, please stay on topic. This is a serious discussion.
Double edit because Nightingale added some stuff:
The web keeps getting deeper and deeper. How far does it go? +1 means you agree with the post. It has a direct correlation on how you view an opinion. Haven't you noticed all my recent bans relate to a group of certain people. Obviously something is really messed up here, also a lot of double standard
It's not about the ban. It's about exposing shitty admins. Will anything happen, no of course not but at least we can have some type of record of how unqualified they really are
(1) I don't ever remember saying that. I do however agree with Artyem that you were in fact using Gobblin's name with malicious intent. Whether you are guilty of this or not is secondary as you have been put into a position where this scenario is highly probable. You were asked to change your name you did. Which is great, now you know having a very similar name to someone else can cause big problems for your own person rather than the other. So whether you accidentally impersonated someone or intentionally did. You should take one thing out of this situation :Impersonating other players is frowned on and not condoned: You can do some impersonation so long as its OKAY with the original player and you don't abuse this to try to change people's opinions of the original player.
(2) I understand the concept of profiling and slander. Neither is the case of what I'm doing I'm taking your past behavior and grouping it with this incident and coming to the conclusion that it being malicious is highly probable.
(3) Me +1'ing havelle's post in particular was me showing that I agree that you misinterpret stuff
(4) You aren't exposing anyone of anything; Calling Artyem and I shitty admins isn't record of anything nor is it constructive feedback useful to anyone. The reason I say you are a crying idiot is because of this simpleton type behavior of pointing fingers at everyone other than yourself.
Please refer to my OP as to why I posted in the feedback thread and my official constructive criticism. To put it in your own words, "it's my PERSONAL OPINION and you can't convince me other wise". So once again you resort to name calling as me being simple. Btw I know I made a name similar to someone else. Was never trying to hide it but when you say I intentionally TK and TW someone, I'm going to defend to the end the truth, not because of your own personal opinion without any proof.
Hey Artyem, how does Gobblinkingleader's dick taste like?
I think its been mentioned several times, the team-wounding and team-killing is now secondary to the actual issue : impersonation.
The team-killing and team-wounding was alone only slightly punishable but when amplified by impersonation it becomes a harsher punishment. Due to the probable intention.
Your official "constructive" criticism stated only that Artyem is unfit for admin due to corruption and biased nature in making decisions. Which in of itself is an insult to his integrity and since I aided him in this decision you are saying the same about me: That really isn't constructive and is where the insulting began which was by you which made it fair game.
I'm not going to bother responding to 90% of what you wrote, because Desire basically did it for me. However, I will say this:
1. You were banned for teamwounding while impersonating another player.
2. I conferred with Jeade and Desire before deciding on a punishment.
3. Lucinda clearly thought the teamwounding was an issue, and only asked for the ban to be lifted after I called you out by name.
4. Impersonation is a very serious offense, and always has been. 5 days and a forced name change is pretty light compared to past punishments.
Really interesting strategy you've come up with, wasting my time initially (what happened to your global ban?) and then 'slandering' me on the forums. I count at least three posts in the diplomacy section, with two pages on my feedback thread alone.
yeah m8 you really got me alright
I really think you are messing with me now. Your not just saying I had a similar name, but your also saying I tried to get him ban and change people's opinion of him by TW and TK. I know that is secondary but you yourself and I'm quoting directly from you "You are banned because you are attempting to impersonate another player trying to make him look bad and even get him banned". This is the fact that I am disputing.
This is the whole point of the feedback thread and you result to the lowest form of debating, name calling. Me with my broken English even knows that and no wear did I name call in my OP You resort to calling me a idiot on your first reply. Top notch
An unfit admin is an unfit admin. Call it how I see it. Don't have a feed back thread if you guys can't take it. Really is a case of good'o'boy club. Please refer to my original post.
Edit: done. We are going in circles and no point in feedback thread if it's going to get defensive and resort to name calling each other. Gnight.
An unfit admin is an unfit admin. Call it how I see it. Don't have a feed back thread if you guys can't take it. Really is a case of good'o'boy club. Please refer to my original post.
So a few things. Nightingale, never figured you were that far gone. Where do you only get those two options about impersonating? What happened to impersonating is the highest form of flattery? But I guess you backtracked and try to justify your name calling by grasping at straws.
Also I skimmed through Arytem feedback thread. Sprivico is right. I underestimate the ties that he has with jade, nightingale and gobblins. They are all over this thread since 2013. It's unwinnable. I'm officially dropping the argument.
Detah? Nice try, skip.
Arytem, I was not backing down after one response, I was debating if you can even call it that with nightingale for a few hours before you even responded and was almost 2am my time.
No passive aggressive on my part. I'm pretty transparent on what I was trying to say.
You keep talking as if both this and you actually mattered to anyone outside of almost-funny meme value. "I'm officially dropping the argument" lmao you completely missed Sparvilegals point that this is a stupid game and that admins deliver street justice as they will.TL;DR
Not that you are in any way undeserving of a ban, you had been on NA1 with your Daruvian-dress-up alt for a while before this happened, and it was obvious to anyone with 10 brain cells that it was someone trying to make stale memes (also p obvious it was you personally, if you compare the kinds of things G0BBLIN said with what you say on the forums, grammar, etc. --also because you've pretty much cornered the GOBBLIN obsessed market--). Problem for you was your banner buddy only had like 8 brain cells and tried to banthread the real GOBBLINKING based on your stale meme.
That's what I assume anyway, the actual worst case scenario for y'all is that you tried to coordinate some shit (impersonation + banner buddy banthreading) to get real GOBBLIN banned. That would be really edgy and I don't think you're capable of that level of sperg mischief. I think it's much more likely that you're all just wholly retarded.
Spectrum analysis aside, there is no disputing that you were impersonating someone (highest form of flattery lol that shit obviously doesn't fly what's wrong with you) and, based on your past actions and statements, doing so maliciously. Even if it wasn't coordinated with that other AoW guy, your actions as G0BBLIN got real GOBBLIN banthreaded. Artyem (who I don't know personally but seems chill) was right to ban you for both the banthreaded offence and the also bannable malicious impersonation. He even knocked off a couple days after your AoW buddy PM'd him. Even before that, as Sparvicopulation said, it was pretty light considering recent bans given out for that and your prior history.
So really you should step off.
TL;DR:
You were trying to besmirch the name of someone who does that to himself anyway. Parodying a parody lol. Even if you hadn't committed a bannable offence that's gay af.
Damn, I always miss all the fun stuff.