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Title: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 07:17:15 pm
How do Does Harassment Ruin Game Time for Others?


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Let me begin with saying that I do not condone harassment in any way and I am very much against it. I was warned severely when I was calling kinngrimm "dimmwimm" a few times on the server and I can see how constant pecking gets to someone after a time. After my first warning, I ceased immediately and pretty much cut off contact with him in-game as much as possible to avoid misunderstandings. This time, I'm not sure who I harassed but apparently this is the reason why I was essay banned so I will have to indulge the task.

In a gaming community, and in internet communities overall, there will always be rude behaviours of every sort. Harassment is the lowest form of this behaviour. It picks its target, and in continuous efforts it attempts to annoy or torment the person targeted regardless if they react. The whole point of the harassment is that as long as nobody is there to stop it and as long as there are no rules that prohibit it, it will basically never end.
 While there will always be trolls and general negative attitude, I think that harassment should be outlawed entirely. I do believe that people have the right to be assholes, as long as it doesn't get out of control and harm the atmosphere of the community. Many communities I've been a part of have always taken a spiraling descent into pecking orders, oldmy old friend/newmy old friend trends where new players are completely alienated by the older players due to egotistical reasons.

In-game, which is when you enjoy the GAME aspect of the community, you should have the comfort of knowledge that you will be able to ENJOY the game. Harassment does not allow people to enjoy the game, because it is a constant source of nuisance associated with the game. In the forums it's a different story, you can't really get away with harassment because people will notice. But in-game, it is a much uglier and dirtier thing, because mostly only the person who is being targeted will take notice to the harassment. The others will be occupied with ENJOYING the game. And enjoyment is all that matters in a game. If I didn't enjoy playing cRPG, first of all, I would not have bothered to write this essay. But since I do, and since I care about the general well-being of the community (believe it or not), I am more than ready to compensate for whatever harassment I have inflicted on other players. As I said, I am not sure who I harassed apart from kinngrimm, but this is my title for the essay so of course I consider the possibility that I have, in the past or presence, harassed someone. And for that I am truly sorry, because while I may have somewhat of an edgy personality at times, I do care about mostly everyone. People that I believe are assets in the game, artistically, personality wise and etc, I will always look up to them and try to draw wisdom from them. I know that I'm not exactly the most liked person in this community, but please, all of you who feel that I should learn a hard lesson or even so far as to get completely removed from the community, ask yourselves:

Is it not better to forgive and forget than persist with holding grudges?
 Because I am completely fine with treating everyone with respect and civility. Unfortunately, I can't say the same about some people that have issues with me. But I'm willing to look past that, and I'm willing to cease the harassment of others. Something I consider very important, no matter if you're an asshole or a nice guy, is the ability to once in a while man up and talk about your issues with people and hear them out on their issues. To discuss in a mature manner, in other words. I value this type of exchange above all, because there is no bullshit simply put. The only way forward in these situations is honesty, no matter how brutally honest said exchange is. To clear up the ambiguity, I'll explain what I'm talking about. If kinngrimm, or anyone else ever had a problem with me, PLEASE talk to me about it. I'm the type of person that wants to mend every problem around me, I'm always the guy trying to meddle in a conflict because that's just who I am. So once again, please, even if you hate my guts and would rather I dropped dead or something, give it a shot. I might not like you either, but as I said, a mature discussion has no place for subjectivity.

I'm truly upset that I got myself into this situation, and even though it's unrealistic to expect me to change entirely (even though I would rather not type stuff when I'm pissed off, I'm probably still going to rage about stuff in-game, but that shit is never intended to target anyone in specific, it's just me raging; can't get any simpler), I will fear for my life the day I get banned again as that would be my last ban. I have way too much history in this community and way too many hours spent to jeopardize them all over some stupid name calling. So if I get a new chance, you don't have to expect a new Bjord but rather a filtered Bjord.

I'd also like to say something to the people who voted 1 and really want me out of this community:

You all have different reasons for not being able to stand me and whatnot, and I accept that. It's probably mutual. But that doesn't mean that we still can't behave like people. One thing I hate is petty and immature stuff like "-"ing every post without even reading it or simply being generally adversarial. It's fine if you target me in-game and it's fine if you love killing me. I target people I dislike as well, because let's face it - it's way more fun to kill your rivals than your friends. But when you let that shit spill out over the forums and in general the whole community, that's when the nasty stuff begins and it becomes personal. I don't approve of that at all.
 And since I am taking an obvious stance against personal vendettas, you can safely assume that I value sensibility. I consider myself a person who can listen to criticism without getting offended, it's not a problem for me. For some it is, and maybe that's what bugs me sometimes. But that's their business and I should have respected that and left them to their own selves.

When it all boils down, we're all just people playing a computer game where we're imaginary knights and peasants with imaginary penises. Let's cut the crap and grow beyond all the menial shit. The community is what matters. Together, and no matter how cheesy this sounds, we'll ascend any mountain and overcome any obstacles. The cRPG community is still young (only 2½ years or so), it's far from too late. But if we let stuff like personal vendettas get the better of us, we'll also see the spiraling descent into mutual hatred. Please think of this last paragraph extra long, because this is something I have ALWAYS reflected upon.

Thanks for reading.
 



EDIT: In the process of replacing some off-topic stuff, sorry about that by the way.

EDIT2: Done. :)
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on October 10, 2012, 07:37:05 pm
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Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: BlackMilk on October 10, 2012, 07:39:54 pm
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hilarious.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on October 10, 2012, 07:43:54 pm
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hilarious

Thanks

btw unban bhjourd nice essay
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Mammonist on October 10, 2012, 07:51:08 pm
...if not, thank you anyway.
 


no problem
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 10, 2012, 07:52:09 pm
Voted 1...

I remember far back when I was campaigning against Thomek and you sent me this pm...
Ahhhh, it's going to feel good when you get permabanned. :)
Bye.
BTW: This turn of events is quite funny.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Patoson on October 10, 2012, 07:53:25 pm
Bjord is just a joker. I've never seen him behave in a harmful way, and I think he should be unbanned.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: oprah_winfrey on October 10, 2012, 07:58:36 pm
Didn't read, gave 5. Mostly because you were given the topic "How do does harassment ruin game time for other players".
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Cepeshi on October 10, 2012, 08:03:31 pm
Read, was worth the time. And i personally didnt had any issues with mr. Bjord other than him killing me pretty much on every occasion we meet on battle and some rage back teamhitting.

Set this man free.


(and yeah, if you are at it, release Panos aswell)  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:05:50 pm
I'll change some stuff later, I was sort of writing this in a hurry so irrelevant stuff will be removed and replaced with appropriate content.

Thanks to all who read it, even those who voted 1.

Just think about if you really want me entirely removed, because I've been around for soon 3 years, and I care a lot about this community.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Cicero on October 10, 2012, 08:09:44 pm
i dont really like think calling kinngrimm dimmwimm or calling someone shut up gay hans etc etc , we are playing a game from internet and i dont give a fuck about etic on internet what you do against me shout with caps lock ? Oh my hands are shakin already.

So for me bjord must be unbanned but on the otherhand im pretty sure he will keep talking which is fuckin normal.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on October 10, 2012, 08:10:16 pm
I'll change some stuff later, I was sort of writing this in a hurry so irrelevant stuff will be removed and replaced with appropriate content.

Thanks to all who read it, even those who voted 1.

Just think about if you really want me entirely removed, because I've been around for soon 3 years, and I care a lot about this community.
dont force us to feel for you D:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Casimir on October 10, 2012, 08:13:57 pm
Always nice to see that civility is respected in our community.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:24:23 pm
Could I ask that people who vote 1 and minus please explain what you disliked about the essay?

Thanks.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on October 10, 2012, 08:24:54 pm
Could I ask that people who vote 1 and minus please explain what you disliked about the essay?

Thanks.
I just "-" your thread for nth
I could remove it
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:27:00 pm
I just "-" your thread for nth
I could remove it

Do what you feel like, but I suspect it won't matter since I think I wasn't repentant and apologetic enough. So this might be my last time in this game and community, I'm not buying a new key.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Herkkutatti666 on October 10, 2012, 08:27:34 pm
1/5 would not read again.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:28:58 pm
1/5 would not read again.

Thanks for reading.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: tizzango on October 10, 2012, 08:29:16 pm
+1. Quite a tedious thing to ban someone for, on the other hand though, if they give you another chance and you are still a dick you shouldn't be a part of this community! :D

You are a bit of a dick to other players, and you rage teamhitted me once in which we both got banned for- but I like you personally.

I liked how you mocked the title you were given, I lold. I liked the font. And I also liked the points you made.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:39:49 pm
You are right, if I am given a new chance I'll be pretty vigilant of what I say. I hope admins see this.

Once again, sorry for my abrasive behaviour in the admin chat, Tennenoth. As I said, that was a pretty shitty thing I did.

If not then I'll pack my bags and get on with my life. Maybe I'll have a talk with cmp in a year or something, if you guys are still alive and kicking. Until then, see ya. :wink:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 10, 2012, 08:44:03 pm
I learned to somehow like Bjord`s behaviour.
It`s not like we didn`t have any childish forum fights and disagreements in the last 2 years we
played the same mod but I do not rage about such stuff anymore. I think he should get this
chance because what he did is nothing harmful imo and because he is a very skilled player
who enriches my playing time when he`s on the same server due to performing cool stuff
and being a hard challenge on the battlefield. (And because he´s Scandinavian)

FREE BJORD!, 5/5

EDIT: God, lots of fails in this little text :D
EDIT2: Good read btw.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 10, 2012, 08:47:21 pm
I appreciate the post :wink:, sadly I don't think skill and nationality comes into account when deciding my verdict. :lol:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: sF_Guardian on October 10, 2012, 08:50:19 pm
I appreciate the post :wink:, sadly I don't think skill and nationality comes into account when deciding my verdict. :lol:

Like I mentioned in EDIT 2, this essay was a good read and is worth 5/5, no matter who wrote it.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Berserkadin on October 10, 2012, 09:04:40 pm
If you're not allowed to say shut up, nor call GKs "Gay Khans", then I will also be essay banned pretty soon.

5/5

Harrassin someone would be to spam "Bjord is Gay, bjord is gay, bjord is gay" all the time while he's in game, or something like that. Imho, Tennetoth seems abit biased and butthurt. Hopefully that wont get me muted.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Falka on October 10, 2012, 09:14:41 pm
FREE BJORD!, 4/5

Fixed  :wink:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Miwiw on October 10, 2012, 09:19:19 pm
I like Bjord, voted 5. Unban.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: peter_afca7 on October 10, 2012, 09:32:14 pm
did vote 5 dont no why but feels legit (if i did vote 1 i wouldn't know why 8-))

its a game let this guy play!
just mute him in game if his chat is the problem.  come on we are on the internet banning people for chatting is meh.

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Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Vibe on October 10, 2012, 09:39:28 pm
I LYK BJÄRD
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Fuma Kotaro on October 10, 2012, 09:40:03 pm
Do what you feel like, but I suspect it won't matter since I think I wasn't repentant and apologetic enough. So this might be my last time in this game and community, I'm not buying a new key.

well its not about "+" et "-" its about 5/4/3/2/1 and i voted 5
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: genric on October 10, 2012, 09:59:55 pm
It was a good essay.
Explained the definition and how it affects people.
Explained how he felt about the ban and how he learned from it, also how he shall act in the future.

Gave a 5 for neatness and kept to the point, good story bro.

Bjord seems like he is a little abrasive and kind of annoying on forums sometimes (no offense) acts a bit trolly on occasion that i've seen but compared to the NA spook he is nothing. He has been warned a few times yes and got into kinda big trouble once with the grimm situation but overall doesn't seem to be hurting people which is really the key here. Also does make good points on more then a few occasions on the forums which gives him more good then bad to put it simply.
Though on a side note I do not know exactly how he is In game which could in fact be pretty ugly, so take my post at face value.

UNban I say, he wont change but he really wasn't that big a problem to begin with. He'll just filter slightly more
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tore on October 10, 2012, 10:55:31 pm
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tears of Destiny on October 10, 2012, 11:24:21 pm
Unban Bjord, stuff and stuff.\


5/5
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tzar on October 10, 2012, 11:25:13 pm
Think he just have rage problems deep down Bjord is a good guy...

Cant he just keep playing while being muted ingame?  :lol:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Corwin on October 11, 2012, 12:14:53 am
God damn you, stop it already! I can't keep up with the two campaigns to free both Panos and you!

FREE BJORD!!!
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Carthage on October 11, 2012, 03:22:43 am
You can't ban him! He is to EU as Spook was to NA it will upset the universe if there is no trolls!!
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 11, 2012, 03:39:33 am
I can only Hope to one day match the magnitude of Spook's abrasiveness. :lol:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Prinz_Karl on October 11, 2012, 04:46:34 am
I can't consent Kinngrimms behaviour. The admins have been very indulgent to his complaint imo. If he is getting offended by Bjord and takes it with that sensitivity this is simply not the right place for him to be. Harassment in the Internet is far beyond what Kinngrimm has experienced from Bjord.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Uumdi on October 11, 2012, 07:15:16 am
Hopefully Silveredge doesn't find out I'm the one who started Dilveredge
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tonyukuk on October 11, 2012, 07:57:04 am
Stop calling me dickarin and than i will vote for ''5''
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Molly on October 11, 2012, 10:34:46 am
Dickarin?!  :mrgreen:

Funny...

Voted 3/5 cuz I do not care! 8-)
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Gnjus on October 11, 2012, 10:44:53 am
Many communities I've been a part of

I bet that at your age of 19 there's been tons of communities out there that you were a part of.  :wink:


Because I am completely fine with treating everyone with respect and civility.

I predict a long & successful career for you as a stand-up comedian.  :wink:


Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: BASNAK on October 11, 2012, 11:59:28 am
People need to stop being so butthurt. It's the internet.

5/5 Stupid ban, unban rite nao
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Cepeshi on October 11, 2012, 12:01:20 pm
so many watched people here haha
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: F i n on October 11, 2012, 12:29:23 pm
For what i know of him, i dont like him. But this essay seems to be an honest excuse for misbehaviour which is more i am used to and more i expected.

Unban i say. Everyone deserves second, third and fourth chances if they want and might change. Even bjord ;).

Nice essay btw.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: BD_Baby_Wolf on October 11, 2012, 01:29:07 pm
about 50% of all that text is not relevant to your essay, but rather excuses to your behavior and telling admins what to do.
I personally feel that you should rewrite it.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: karasu on October 11, 2012, 01:29:28 pm
so many watched people here haha

And sadly so few muted.  :|
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 11, 2012, 03:10:32 pm
about 50% of all that text is not relevant to your essay, but rather excuses to your behavior and telling admins what to do.
I personally feel that you should rewrite it.

You're right about one thing, it should be 100% on-topic and I'll start rewriting some stuff now and later make a new post with the off-topic stuff.

EDIT: Putting the off-topic stuff in this post with a spoiler.

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Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: BD_Baby_Wolf on October 11, 2012, 03:41:26 pm
You're right about one thing, it should be 100% on-topic and I'll start rewriting some stuff now and later make a new post with the off-topic stuff.

EDIT: Putting the off-topic stuff in this post with a spoiler.

(click to show/hide)

i would advise you to contact Tenni to lower the word count, cos 1k is a bit too much i think.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 11, 2012, 03:49:09 pm
i would advise you to contact Tenni to lower the word count, visitors can't see pics , please register or login
.

For me or for others?

Anyway, I'm done so it's not a problem anymore.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: F i n on October 11, 2012, 04:47:28 pm
Is calling someone attentionwhore harassment?
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 11, 2012, 04:48:13 pm
Is calling someone attentionwhore harassement?

If you're referring to me I removed the post lol, didn't realize I had already notified that I was done.

Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: F i n on October 11, 2012, 04:50:29 pm
Hihihi just curious
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Everkistus on October 12, 2012, 08:47:24 am
Trolling is as much a part of the internet as TCP/IP. Good unban essay, shitty reason for ban.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: kinngrimm on October 12, 2012, 10:16:43 am
I didn't vote as i don't see the point anymore.

You asked that someone who has a problem with you would come and talk to you personally. Why?
Not like these problems were created by them, but in my opinion by you so your problems reflected onto them. You make other people feel bad. So again why would they go and talk to you? If at all you should look them up where to find them, go to them and apologize. Again like in other cases, you seem to be an intelligent guy from what you wrote, still your actions when you got mad makes this essay mute in my opinion.

I can't consent Kinngrimms behaviour. The admins have been very indulgent to his complaint imo. If he is getting offended by Bjord and takes it with that sensitivity this is simply not the right place for him to be. Harassment in the Internet is far beyond what Kinngrimm has experienced from Bjord.
My behaviour? Read Bjord essay to know with what i had to deal and read my ban request (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/(ban)-saracen_el_bhjourd-37611/msg578554/#msg578554)

When i did that request , Bjord didn't get banned. Instead he got another chance. This ban here isn't about me being harrassed, but yet another person. Meanwhile others are taking on your cause Bjord, you can be proud, isn't that what you hoped for?. Curtis and others now starting to call me queengrimm *sigh*. Am i sensitive? Ask my friends on ts which call me whatever they want me to call, it all takes place in good atmosphere, but they are not trying to penetrate my butt like others. I never claimed to be the best or one of the best players and objectively out of many reasons i am not. I am just another player who clicks some buttons. Why is it ok that people call me or others any names and that on a constant base? Do you do that with all the people you know or even with people you don't know in Reallife? Why are people always making the excuse only because we are here in the internet, that automaticly gives you permission to behave these ways? I am 36 and can stand a beating, i have had enough troubles in my life to get a thick skin. That then again doesn't make me a robot and i guess that's the case for most people. Am i sensitive, sure, aren't you? If not that is your problem not mine.

EDIT: on a site note, i had done a year ago already a suggestion and repeatedly mentioned it, that a simple solution to all of this would be to implement a client site muting. Something what is stored on your PC and doesn't vanish with reconnects, so you don't need to listen to my crap i say in game or that of others. Would lessen the admins task. This isn't the best solution as it cuts of communication between some people, but in some cases it is the only solution as some people are just spilling poison.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: F i n on October 12, 2012, 10:19:06 am
so many watched people here haha

Now im watched too. God damn beer.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Son Of Odin on October 12, 2012, 10:30:26 am
Trolling is as much a part of the internet as TCP/IP. Good unban essay, shitty reason for ban.

Colonel Steele has spoken :mrgreen:. Bjord deserves to be unbanned imo. Good essay and all.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 12, 2012, 11:38:16 am
I didn't vote as i don't see the point anymore.

You asked that someone who has a problem with you would come and talk to you personally. Why?
Not like these problems were created by them, but in my opinion by you so your problems reflected onto them. You make other people feel bad. So again why would they go and talk to you? If at all you should look them up where to find them, go to them and apologize. Again like in other cases, you seem to be an intelligent guy from what you wrote, still your actions when you got mad makes this essay mute in my opinion.
My behaviour? Read Bjord essay to know with what i had to deal and read my ban request (http://forum.meleegaming.com/eu-(official)/(ban)-saracen_el_bhjourd-37611/msg578554/#msg578554)

When i did that request , Bjord didn't get banned. Instead he got another chance. This ban here isn't about me being harrassed, but yet another person. Meanwhile others are taking on your cause Bjord, you can be proud, isn't that what you hoped for?. Curtis and others now starting to call me queengrimm *sigh*. Am i sensitive? Ask my friends on ts which call me whatever they want me to call, it all takes place in good atmosphere, but they are not trying to penetrate my butt like others. I never claimed to be the best or one of the best players and objectively out of many reasons i am not. I am just another player who clicks some buttons. Why is it ok that people call me or others any names and that on a constant base? Do you do that with all the people you know or even with people you don't know in Reallife? Why are people always making the excuse only because we are here in the internet, that automaticly gives you permission to behave these ways? I am 36 and can stand a beating, i have had enough troubles in my life to get a thick skin. That then again doesn't make me a robot and i guess that's the case for most people. Am i sensitive, sure, aren't you? If not that is your problem not mine.

EDIT: on a site note, i had done a year ago already a suggestion and repeatedly mentioned it, that a simple solution to all of this would be to implement a client site muting. Something what is stored on your PC and doesn't vanish with reconnects, so you don't need to listen to my crap i say in game or that of others. Would lessen the admins task. This isn't the best solution as it cuts of communication between some people, but in some cases it is the only solution as some people are just spilling poison.

I'd like to give you a worthy reply but I feel it would not make a difference. Even after my essay and even after you basically got me essay banned (which is what you hoped for in the beginning, to get me banned), you still seem adamant about removing me from this community. In my opinion, I have been very mindful of my interaction with you in-game, but you on the other hand are still holding a grudge.

So why should I care about your feelings, after I've already gotten out of your hair and after you're still being inconsiderate of mine? Frankly, I think you can suit yourself when people start calling you "queengrimm" (am I violating the probation if I say I laughed a bit? Curtis is a pretty funny guy, I couldn't help it. :lol:). I haven't parodied your name since that ban thread you made, so IMO you're going way out of your way to once again voice a bitter and resentful opinion.

Get over yourself, please.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 12, 2012, 11:45:56 am
Don't get all the love for the essay itself, even SpookIslands essay was better than this.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: BlindGuy on October 12, 2012, 12:43:17 pm
1. No fucks are given about SpookIsland. Stop spamming unrelated shit in loads of threads just to mention SpookIsland. We dont care and never will.

2. Essay for poor.

3. Reason for ban was a joke. "Please helwp meeee, a nasty mans on the internets called me names and now my bumbum is hurty!"

4. Free Bjord or he will continue to talk about his favorite thing, himself.

5. Kinngrimm really so butthurt, dont make yourself a target, everything you do ingame in guaranteed to get you grief, from your holyer than thou attitude, your misplaced self confidence, your abuse nonexistant ping combined with almost invisible spampick, your lack of footwork, ppl are gonna mock you, just mute chat if YOU get offended, in a game where we destroy one another with steel and wood brutality, why should words be censored when game content is NOT child friendly. (Obviously rascism etc is not the same, thats just ignorance)
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on October 12, 2012, 12:57:57 pm
Pretty sure any ping bellow 40 gets a delay until it's on the speed of 40 so bitching about Kinngrimms low ping is a bit silly when everyone with 0-50 ping get pretty much the exact same experience.

BTW: Bjord is to gay to be SpookIsland, he also sucks to hard at writing essays.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Nehvar on October 12, 2012, 03:09:42 pm
It's rare to see an actual on-topic, paragraphed essay that isn't sarcastic or otherwise offensive.  Unban.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Prinz_Karl on October 12, 2012, 04:51:10 pm
All in all I must say to you Kingrimm that if you're caring so much about them calling you names you only ask for more, you should know that. Finally it's up to you to solve this and admins can't back you up one more time they already did. Stop reacting to the insults and I'm very sure they will stop automatically.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Olwen on October 12, 2012, 06:02:40 pm
Could I ask that people who vote 1 and minus please explain what you disliked about the essay?

Thanks.

2 reasons: too long, and you wrote it.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: genric on October 12, 2012, 06:12:08 pm
Ctrl Shift M global mute. Pass it on.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Armpit_Sweat on October 12, 2012, 08:56:46 pm
As much as i hate to admit it - a mature and decently written essay. Still voted 1, since he made a ridiculously groundless ban-poll on me, and downvoted all my posts, like a little bitch, for a few days.
 

Is it not better to forgive and forget than persist with holding grudges? 

 
For me it's not. But whoever wants to turn another cheek - you go ahead and enjoy.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 12, 2012, 09:07:52 pm
As much as i hate to admit it - a mature and decently written essay. Still voted 1, since he made a ridiculously groundless ban-poll on me, and downvoted all my posts, like a little bitch, for a few days.
 
 
For me it's not. But whoever wants to turn another cheek - you go ahead and enjoy.

Well I have no excuses for those occasions. :lol:

But I appreciate your honesty, that's rare. And generally I enjoy your sick sense of humour. :wink:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tzar on October 12, 2012, 11:34:05 pm
Armpit is a baws when it comes to make me giggle like a little shy Asian school girl thi hi....
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: autobus on October 13, 2012, 05:16:10 pm
Voted 3 but still

Could I ask that people who vote 1 and minus please explain what you disliked about the essay?
Thanks.

The essay itself is good and reasonable the only thing that is questionable about it is your sincerity. I remember you back in days when you were in saracens calling people scumbags for no particular reason and leaving racist remarks here and there. Don't get me wrong, i do like you personally and i think that you truly understand that harassment and insults are not the very best things to do, i just don't believe that you are going to stop just because it is bad, most likely you will stop to avoid ban.
But then again i've voted 3 i can't say i want you banned.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: The_Bloody_Nine on October 13, 2012, 09:23:18 pm
Essay is good, even sounds honest most times. voted 4.

But what you wrote in that unban thread again, e.g.:"established the quality of your adminship". I don't personally know you and have no problem with you and don't know specifically about the things you did, but when I read stuff like that I surely do wonder wtf is wrong with you.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Sarpton on October 14, 2012, 04:03:16 am
Voted 5 !  Good essay, easy to read, and to the point.   


Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 15, 2012, 12:07:41 pm
The essay itself is good and reasonable the only thing that is questionable about it is your sincerity. I remember you back in days when you were in saracens calling people scumbags for no particular reason and leaving racist remarks here and there. Don't get me wrong, i do like you personally and i think that you truly understand that harassment and insults are not the very best things to do, i just don't believe that you are going to stop just because it is bad, most likely you will stop to avoid ban.
But then again i've voted 3 i can't say i want you banned.

While I disagree with your implications, I can understand them. But let me assure you, I am being very sincere. I'm not going to defend my past behaviour, and I'm not even going to dare state that I have changed. Let's just say, my perspective about things have broadened a bit. And some things are just more important than the freedom of acting like an immature prick.

That's all.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Corwin on October 15, 2012, 12:09:02 pm
So, are you unbanned or not?
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 15, 2012, 12:12:33 pm
So, are you unbanned or not?

Waiting for Tennenoth's verdict.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Corwin on October 15, 2012, 02:27:22 pm
FREE BJORD!!!
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: genric on October 15, 2012, 09:27:13 pm
He is probably just letting you stew in your time out for a bit. Or forgot and is enjoying the quiet ~.o
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Gnjus on October 15, 2012, 09:37:16 pm
He is probably just letting you stew in your time out for a bit.

Stew made out of Bjord's meat would take days, maybe even weeks to get properly boiled due to his indigestible meat. Hopefully Tennetoth's cooking proficiency is higher then his archery.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Tennenoth on October 16, 2012, 02:47:29 pm
Stew made out of Bjord's meat would take days, maybe even weeks to get properly boiled due to his indigestible meat. Hopefully Tennetoth's cooking proficiency is higher then his archery.

We've all lost our ability to aim a little bit over the years Gnjus, not seen you waving that crossbow around for a while.

Alright, first off an apology, I've been horrendously busy, as much as I wish I was enjoying the quiet I really am not. (1,000 word essay? I could have traded him for several 10,000 words if he wanted :D)

I've read both of the essays that you have written Bjord and naturally I prefer the second one. As I mentioned to you before, I never had any intention of perma-banning you, I have never done that and I don't intend on doing it. I'm a strong believer in the fact that anyone should be able to play the game but without causing other players misery.
Some people don't agree with the ban, I can understand that, I can see why people are saying "man up" and I can agree to an extent, but it goes beyond "trolling" that some people think this was, those people I feel are misinformed but that's neither here nor there, we're all welcome to our opinions.

As I say, I don't want to see Bjord leave the mod, that's not my aim, I mean, who will tell me that I'm the protector of cRPG or give me psychology lessons if I ban him!? I will also reaffirm that a permanent ban will only come if he screws up big time so if you are banned again, it'll be to the discretion of the admin, and not a sure fire thing but at the same time, I doubt there will another ban.

I've unbanned you, have fun.
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: IR_Kuoin on October 16, 2012, 02:48:56 pm
Now Bjord wont have to play merc mod anymore  :lol:
Title: Re: "how do does harassment ruin game time for other players" - An Unban Essay
Post by: Bjord on October 16, 2012, 03:31:45 pm
We've all lost our ability to aim a little bit over the years Gnjus, not seen you waving that crossbow around for a while.

Alright, first off an apology, I've been horrendously busy, as much as I wish I was enjoying the quiet I really am not. (1,000 word essay? I could have traded him for several 10,000 words if he wanted :D)

I've read both of the essays that you have written Bjord and naturally I prefer the second one. As I mentioned to you before, I never had any intention of perma-banning you, I have never done that and I don't intend on doing it. I'm a strong believer in the fact that anyone should be able to play the game but without causing other players misery.
Some people don't agree with the ban, I can understand that, I can see why people are saying "man up" and I can agree to an extent, but it goes beyond "trolling" that some people think this was, those people I feel are misinformed but that's neither here nor there, we're all welcome to our opinions.

As I say, I don't want to see Bjord leave the mod, that's not my aim, I mean, who will tell me that I'm the protector of cRPG or give me psychology lessons if I ban him!? I will also reaffirm that a permanent ban will only come if he screws up big time so if you are banned again, it'll be to the discretion of the admin, and not a sure fire thing but at the same time, I doubt there will another ban.

I've unbanned you, have fun.

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