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Off Topic => Historical Discussion => Topic started by: Thucydides on August 31, 2011, 03:16:31 pm
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For the lulz, after trolling around with a pike on horse and getting banned, thought it would be edifying for the CRPG community to see that Pike on horseback was just as OP in RL as it is in CRPG
The Kontos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontos_(weapon) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontos_(weapon))
As shown by contemporary artwork, the kontos was about 4 metres long, though longer examples may have existed; later Parthian and Sassanian clibinarii (Middle Persian: Grivpanvar) reportedly used kontoi of longer lengths; only highly trained cavalrymen such as those fielded by the Arsaco-Sassanian dynasties could have used such weapons. Its length was probably the origin of its name, as the word kontos could also mean "oar" or "barge-pole" in Greek. Thus, it had to be wielded with two hands while directing the horse using the knees; this made it a specialist weapon that required a lot of training and good horsemanship to use. In addition, most Parthian cavalry (even possibly including cataphracts) carried bows, so this meant daily practice with the weapons.
and the heavy cav that uses them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract#Appearance_and_equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract#Appearance_and_equipment)
Cataphract lances (known in Greek as a Kontos ("oar") or in Latin as a Contus) appeared much like the Hellenistic armies's sarissae used by the famed Greek Phalanxes as an anti-cavalry weapon. They were roughly four meters in length, with a capped point made of iron, bronze or even animal bone and usually wielded with both hands. Most had a chain attached to the horse's neck, and at the end by a fastening attached to the horse's hind leg, which supported the use of the lance by transferring the full momentum of a horse's gallop to the thrust of the charge. One reason for this was the lack of stirrups (especially amongst Western armies); although the traditional Roman saddle had four horns with which to secure the rider,[26] nevertheless these were largely inadequate for keeping a soldier seated upon the full impact of a charge action. During the Sassanid era, the Persian military developed an innovative solution to overcome the lack of stirrups and effectively "fasten" the rider to the horse's body. Persian horseman had a cantle at the back of the saddle and two guard clamps which curved across the top of the rider's thighs and fastened to the saddle, thereby enabling the rider to stay properly seated, especially during violent contact in battle[27] There are also reliefs in Iran from Firuzabad showing Persian kings doing battle in a fashion not dissimilar to later depictions of jousts and mounted combat from the Medieval era.
can you imagine having to deal with a horse archer armed in medium armor riding a catapract with a fucking pike as a side arm? that would solve the pike problem alright :lol:
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For the lulz, after trolling around with a pike on horse and getting banned, thought it would be edifying for the CRPG community to see that Pike on horseback was just as OP in RL as it is in CRPG
The Kontos:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontos_(weapon) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontos_(weapon))
and the heavy cav that uses them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract#Appearance_and_equipment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cataphract#Appearance_and_equipment)
can you imagine having to deal with a horse archer armed in medium armor riding a catapract with a fucking pike as a side arm? that would solve the pike problem alright :lol:
Lol couching with a 400 length pike :D
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Sounds like the ultimate tear inducing build.
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Sounds like the ultimate tear inducing build.
It lacks a crushtrough/knockdown throwing crossbow with polestun.
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It lacks a crushtrough/knockdown throwing crossbow with polestun.
plated charger pike lance lols
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It lacks a crushtrough/knockdown throwing crossbow with polestun.
man I loved the cataphract guys in rome total realism, they had bows and lances(Scythians?), I think the eastern roman empires experiences fighting those kind of heavy archer cav cataphract guys led it to develop its own iirc
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man I loved the cataphract guys in rome total realism, they had bows and lances(Scythians?), I think the eastern roman empires experiences fighting those kind of heavy archer cav cataphract guys led it to develop its own iirc
Not just scythians, Parthians, and other iranian steppe people fought in such manner. But the scythians of the black sea did not go all out in a "catapract" armor like byzantium or the Parthians did, they were mainly horse archers and foot soldiers.
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Somebody wants their lance of compensation back...
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Somebody wants their lance of compensation back...
lol i joined CRPG post january patch.