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Strategus => Diplomacy => Topic started by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 03:47:45 am

Title: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 03:47:45 am
         Reminds me the fist world war, super powers all declared war on Ottoman fiefs. Coming from all directions. England, Italy, France calling Ottoman Empire the "sick man", just about to die....

First BRD showed up in the area, attacking us while we are busy with other things. They call it "disagreement" we call it "backstabbing". Then Blackrose Mercenaries hired by us to fight BRD but working for BRD at the same time. Then Kingdom of Veluca joined the battle. We realized that its not coordinated by a single faction, there are more behind it. They were all waiting us to make a move, BRD placed Blackroses on Dhirim area and left it, then Kingdom of Veluca was locking our troops and not showing up in the battle to delay us from reinforcing our army, they were well aware that they had no chance against us.  Now Holy German Scum attacked us with a lame excuse, right at the same moment xKhanx attacked to another fief and BRD immediately started move, knowing that they couldn't fight us alone, they had their bitter experience before, we made fool out of them. Like jackals, chasing the old prey all trying to get a bite, barking running around. We gathered the broken armies of other factions, hoping that they can be use in our hard times and we can offer them a home for their future. Unlike our enemies who attacked only in our weakest hour, we offered hope to hopeless.

Now I'm going to tell you the difference between you all and us. We are not afraid of you, none of you, never been and never will be. Your players and your friends are no match to ours. You are the jackals and we ride mammoths, on sundays mastodons. We cook our food on active volcano. We face our enemies, we do not sneak behind them. You fear us and we know that. You've proved it today once again.

Tomorrow its going to be fun, do your best because we will kill many of you before we fall. The battle horn of mercenaries (you can actually hear it in our team speak) shall sound in the deep, it will be a red night.

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Post by: Gingerpussy on July 28, 2011, 03:48:42 am
The Last Stand
 
Along the sides of beaten roads
Cradling the crimson ridge
Lone Soldiers stand with heavy loads
Slipping closer to their edge
Claw like fingers grasp the skies
Desperate to hold tight
While over water their faith flies
Growing weaker with their fright
 
Once so strong and proud they stood
Kissing heaven’s grace
But Mother Earth did what she should
Costing them their place
Gentle waves the killers’ sword
Pulling back their ground
Hollowed caverns and echoed words
Their battle cries resound
 
Flooding soil, crashing grips
Thunder no one hears
Into the drink the eras slip
A storytellers’ fear
Ancient lessons, wisdom’s wit
Forgotten now by all
The battle lost the war now won
A legacy does fall.
 
N.Head 2009

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 03:53:58 am
The funny thing is, you describe yourself as a haven for smaller EU clans, and we have been a haven for smaller NA clans. By the way, TKoV joined the fight long before blackrose... apparently when you dont pay your mercs what you promised them they stop fighting for you. Also, you expect anyone to believe you got all those troops with your 30 man clan? sure you did.

p.s. sorry for not just keeping my mouth shut, but this is war. neither side is a tragic victim.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: xKhanxBROMS on July 28, 2011, 03:54:51 am
Nothing personal fellas.  You know how it works.  Money talks.  Look forward to crossing swords with you guys.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: CtrlAltDe1337 on July 28, 2011, 03:56:18 am
Good luck gentlemen, this looks fun.  Too bad most of the battles are on EU servers.  Its about time we got some good wars going on, none of this DRZ vs world or Templar crusading BS! :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 03:59:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HL5wYqAbU
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: kinngrimm on July 28, 2011, 04:01:48 am
I am with you mercs,

to the last place to the last man to the last sword has been drawn , the last breath as been taken from us.

We stand to our word we have given, yes we are mercs tomorrow. We put on your banner for this day.

If it means we have to die for our word our honor the trust we shared then a place in Valhala beside of you is our payment. So be it.

Yes we are Wolves but tomorrow we are mercs as well. So fear us, we will splinter your entrails, cut you from where you come, we walk through you like death himself.


kinngrimm
leader of the Wolves
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Post by: Ulmarth on July 28, 2011, 04:06:09 am
I stand with u!

Everyone needs a mad scotman!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_fnYOcMSgk

U BETTA LIKE IT OR ELSE!!!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Greziz on July 28, 2011, 04:14:03 am
I don't pretend to know all the intricacies that have happened in this war but. I believe Brd has simply done a better job of playing diplomacy and calling upon our allies to help us.
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Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 04:17:32 am
i stand here with my sword, eagerly awaiting the enemy, waiting to lop off as many heads as possible, i seek honour in death, let the rivers run red with blood, our enemies blood... :twisted:
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Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 04:20:29 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdMCAV6Yd0Y
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Topsnus on July 28, 2011, 04:20:59 am
None of this would have happened if "The Mercenaries" was actually a mercenary clan. If they fought for money instead of land they would have no land to lose, and no one would find it worth fighting them. Instead, "The Mercenaries" is just another normal kingdom like clan....

What do you guys expect when you aspire to control so much land?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 04:22:13 am
well, we're having fun, that's all that matters...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Greziz on July 28, 2011, 04:27:55 am
Umm we only lost the gear the troops were just stripped naked as we were the attackers.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Snickers on July 28, 2011, 04:31:26 am
This is war, clans plots against other clans all the time.

First BRD showed up in the area, attacking us while we are busy with other things. They call it "disagreement" we call it "backstabbing"

Your so called "backstabbing" is not a taboo in war.

Ohh and btw, you cannot expect people to stay loyal to you if you don't give them anything in return, as you can see, the FCC offer land, troops and money in exchange for the alliance.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 28, 2011, 04:51:50 am
I think this is all because of two things:

1. People don't want you to hold 1/5th of strat map like a big neutral blob in the middle like in last Strat.

2. New clans on the prowl for easy targets.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Flawless on July 28, 2011, 05:24:34 am
Let our deeds on the battlefield decide who is right! The war is at its climax, and we will not yield! VICTORY OR DEATH!!
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Post by: Digglez on July 28, 2011, 05:52:32 am
None of this would have happened if "The Mercenaries" was actually a mercenary clan. If they fought for money instead of land they would have no land to lose, and no one would find it worth fighting them. Instead, "The Mercenaries" is just another normal kingdom like clan....

What do you guys expect when you aspire to control so much land?

amen.  after they get stomped they'll have to change their clan to 'REFUGES'
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Post by: Sir_Rodrick on July 28, 2011, 06:03:39 am
Wow. hey, mercs, try using the BP oil spill apology. I think people will truly accept your apology. Even though you took half the map of Strategus last time. But hey, Bitching about it helps.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Rhygar666 on July 28, 2011, 06:04:00 am
Holy German Scum
how old are you seriously 12?  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: SittingBull on July 28, 2011, 06:10:11 am
1. Don't paint yourselves as some type of shelter for smaller EU clans, you pompous pricks. You're no light in the dark and you're certainly not any hope for the hopeless. Anyone with any bit of sense in them knows that you're no such thing.

Lesson 1: Face the truth.

2. You know, had you actually paid us BlackRose mercenaries for our services like you all had promised, we may have been more reluctant to enter into a war with you. But, you didn't, and it just so happens that the FCC held their word every time, and paid our mercenary services when they were requested. Eventually, we made a deal with each other, one that would toss us into a war with you.

Lesson 2: Keep your word.

3.
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Your players and your friends are no match to ours.

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You fear us and we know that.

If only you realized that part of the reason you're in such a trench at the moment, is because you're massively pompous individuals. I've never seen a clan so far up its own ass, honestly. You painted yourselves a target on your backs, and people eventually took a shot. Don't blame these clans for backstabbing you, you set yourself up for it, a long time coming. Your players aren't an inch better than any clan attacking you now, your allies no stronger, your coalition none the more fierce. Your egoism was your downfall.

Lesson 3: Control your ego, get off your high horse.

And, to end this all. You ride mammoths, and one day out of the week a Mastodon? You cook your food over volcanoes?

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: MrShine on July 28, 2011, 06:15:07 am
Let our deeds on the battlefield decide who is right! The war is at its climax, and we will not yield! VICTORY OR DEATH!!
So fear us, we will splinter your entrails, cut you from where you come, we walk through you like death himself.
i stand here with my sword, eagerly awaiting the enemy, waiting to lop off as many heads as possible, i seek honour in death, let the rivers run red with blood, our enemies blood... :twisted:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7HL5wYqAbU





God I am so turned on right now.
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Post by: ildist on July 28, 2011, 06:15:24 am
          You are the jackals and we ride mammoths, on sundays mastodons. We cook our food on active volcano.

DUDE can i have a mammoth i heard they were cute  :D. And you should be on a cooking show bro cooking food on a volcano? You'd be so popular, hell i'd watch it i can never cook my steak perfectly over an active volcano  :(. Next time invite me to your god damn volcano party you god damn bastards! :lol:

i stand here with my sword, eagerly awaiting the enemy, waiting to lop off as many heads as possible, i seek honour in death, let the rivers run red with blood, our enemies blood... :twisted:

that's some deep shit bro.......LOLUMAD
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Darkkarma on July 28, 2011, 06:33:41 am
         
Now I'm going to tell you the difference between you all and us. We are not afraid of you, none of you, never been and never will be. Your players and your friends are no match to ours. You are the jackals and we ride mammoths, on sundays mastodons. We cook our food on active volcano. We face our enemies, we do not sneak behind them. You fear us and we know that. You've proved it today once again.

Tomorrow its going to be fun, do your best because we will kill many of you before we fall. The battle horn of mercenaries (you can actually hear it in our team speak) shall sound in the deep, it will be a red night.


Epic, absolutely epic. Out of Respect I personally won't be participating in any more of the battles against you lot in what appear to be your final hours. Alot of my good friends are in BRD  but I won't take part in such a massive ganking as two or three other major factions decide to jump on you guys near the end at a time of momentary weakness(whether its mercenary factions or not)  For what it's worth, this post impressed me and made me a momentary admirer. Best of luck, Mercs. Death or Glory!
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Post by: Anwyl on July 28, 2011, 06:33:46 am
Thats the spirit. Good girl, charge at the daddy!

You sir, are going to be the first to die.

Brought it on yourself really.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: espooo on July 28, 2011, 06:53:13 am
1. Don't paint yourselves as some type of shelter for smaller EU clans, you pompous pricks. You're no light in the dark and you're certainly not any hope for the hopeless. Anyone with any bit of sense in them knows that you're no such thing.

Lesson 1: Face the truth.

2. You know, had you actually paid us BlackRose mercenaries for our services like you all had promised, we may have been more reluctant to enter into a war with you. But, you didn't, and it just so happens that the FCC held their word every time, and paid our mercenary services when they were requested. Eventually, we made a deal with each other, one that would toss us into a war with you.

Lesson 2: Keep your word.

3.
If only you realized that part of the reason you're in such a trench at the moment, is because you're massively pompous individuals. I've never seen a clan so far up its own ass, honestly. You painted yourselves a target on your backs, and people eventually took a shot. Don't blame these clans for backstabbing you, you set yourself up for it, a long time coming. Your players aren't an inch better than any clan attacking you now, your allies no stronger, your coalition none the more fierce. Your egoism was your downfall.

Lesson 3: Control your ego, get off your high horse.

And, to end this all. You ride mammoths, and one day out of the week a Mastodon? You cook your food over volcanoes?

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Owned.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Nrzloork on July 28, 2011, 07:12:20 am
@ Nocti:
If its of any help: relax man, its just a game. i dont think about the battle tomorrow, but of me lying on the beach in greece by sunday.
Hope u got something similar to look forward to,
Cheers
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Baggy on July 28, 2011, 07:14:38 am
I think ppl are jelly of Mercs success in last Strat.
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Post by: Gorath on July 28, 2011, 07:23:18 am
Epic, absolutely epic. Out of Respect I personally won't be participating in any more of the battles against you lot in what appear to be your final hours. Alot of my good friends are in BRD  but I won't take part in such a massive ganking as two or three other major factions decide to jump on you guys near the end at a time of momentary weakness(whether its mercenary factions or not)  For what it's worth, this post impressed me and made me a momentary admirer. Best of luck, Mercs. Death or Glory!

video game RP'er fan.   :rolleyes:

"Forsooth!  Mine eyes doth detect sir karma mayhap lain with men!"
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Darkkarma on July 28, 2011, 07:25:04 am
video game RP'er fan.   :rolleyes:

"Forsooth!  Mine eyes doth detect sir karma mayhap lain with men!"

Truck on outta here RP hater!
 
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Post by: Bjord on July 28, 2011, 07:28:51 am
To be fair, the badass part about riding mammoths and mastodons and cooking their food over active volcanoes was kinda funny.

But yes, sure doesn't hurt to be humble no matter the situation.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 07:46:25 am
1. Don't paint yourselves as some type of shelter for smaller EU clans, you pompous pricks. You're no light in the dark and you're certainly not any hope for the hopeless. Anyone with any bit of sense in them knows that you're no such thing.

Lesson 1: Face the truth.

2. You know, had you actually paid us BlackRose mercenaries for our services like you all had promised, we may have been more reluctant to enter into a war with you. But, you didn't, and it just so happens that the FCC held their word every time, and paid our mercenary services when they were requested. Eventually, we made a deal with each other, one that would toss us into a war with you.

Lesson 2: Keep your word.

3.
If only you realized that part of the reason you're in such a trench at the moment, is because you're massively pompous individuals. I've never seen a clan so far up its own ass, honestly. You painted yourselves a target on your backs, and people eventually took a shot. Don't blame these clans for backstabbing you, you set yourself up for it, a long time coming. Your players aren't an inch better than any clan attacking you now, your allies no stronger, your coalition none the more fierce. Your egoism was your downfall.

Lesson 3: Control your ego, get off your high horse.

And, to end this all. You ride mammoths, and one day out of the week a Mastodon? You cook your food over volcanoes?

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Lesson 4

Strat K:D and gold transfer after battle doesn't work, there you go

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Aseldo on July 28, 2011, 07:50:42 am
I'll go along with this whole lesson system :) lesson 5, lesson 6, lesson 7, lesson 8, lesson 9, lesson 10. Wait a minute....

Anyways let the swords do the talking people, no amount of self-regard will prove anything new.
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 07:54:10 am
Lesson 4

Strat K:D and gold transfer after battle doesn't work, there you go

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STR_Lotr is aka Luktr and is using two different accounts for strategus? Isn't that... Cheating?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Sir_Ironlake on July 28, 2011, 08:00:51 am
In all honesty, I think the main reason that you were attacked is much simpler then propagated here - its because they (think) they can (get away with it).

Edit:
looking forward to some awesome battles!

Edit #2:
Damn, friday 0-5 am... shitty time, shame...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lansamur on July 28, 2011, 08:03:02 am
Well, Mercs, you screwed over the pope and too many others in your past Strategus-life. Don't tell me you didn't expect to have a countermovement against your plans on taking the biggest territory next to DRZ again.

Caravan Guild will stay out of this. Too many friendly sides involved, on both sides.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: ManOfWar on July 28, 2011, 08:18:08 am
STR_Lotr is aka Luktr and is using two different accounts for strategus? Isn't that... Cheating?

ahaha caught red handed
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Post by: SeQuel on July 28, 2011, 08:27:14 am
GL mercs, (j/k hope you all die).

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Huey Newton on July 28, 2011, 09:06:55 am
lol what a great thread.
I've found plenty of sig worthy quotes
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Post by: Gorath on July 28, 2011, 09:12:25 am
Truck on outta here RP hater!
 
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 09:20:51 am
Nice footwork there, HomoRapedEunuchs.  :wink:
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Post by: Sphinxer on July 28, 2011, 09:36:28 am
After Game of Thrones .. Game of Trolls *sigh*

Actions speak louder than words...

I couldn't happier to fight you Mercs, not because of you arrogance , being cocky online is just funny to watch ... but because you guys are worthy opponents and it will be a very interesting fight. I doubt any other factions will have as interesting fights as ours.

See you on the battlefield

" Fools are the only folk on the earth who can absolutely count on getting what they deserve " - The Dark Tower
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Post by: Greziz on July 28, 2011, 09:58:01 am
I wouldn't say we have had the most interesting fights just the first really vicious war. We are but the tip of the epic iceburg that strat tends to produce I am sure there will be plenty of epic wars in given time.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 10:02:45 am
Couldn't expect such a big amount of lie, meanness and treachery from HRE. Everyone will remember you not as a clan who captured something, but a clan who lied and backstabbed Mercenaries.

For other people to clear this situation: HRE had an official agreement with Mercs, they helped us against BRD reinforcing Tebandra because they wanted that village. And I came to their TS a couple of times to ask why there are so many troops in our lands and they lied that they're going to help LLJK (as Loki, the leader of Fallens, said me personally) and NetzwerG lied to me as well. Do you remember that i wished you good luck when I was leaving your teamspeak? Now I take these words back and I wish you to have what you have deserved.
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Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 10:04:53 am
Nice footwork there, HomoRapedEunuchs.  :wink:

We took yer nose as a landmark...
Took a corner wrong, got the attention of 4 clans with that yellow bubble.
Went for some burgers in a drive in and started to go north after we found out there is free cookies tharrr.

Seriously, I respect mercs for having good individual players and battle commanders. Nothing more to add.

Nothing scarry in it though, but excitement!

Hope that entry comment from noc is roleplay only, if not, its just another reason to stop playing this !!!"game"!!!

We ll see what happens, Mercs will fight bravely, with good tactics and passion, I am sure of that.

And thats pretty much all I expect from this :-)

See you all on the field!

GL / HF

@ Dave:

Official agreement? Where?

No.

Reinforcing Tebandra more by accident, with way more than planed.

Yes.

Our plan being a secret till yesterday evening. (4 ppl. involved - Even the person in charge of 4k men had no idea why he went there - Netzwerg)

Yes.

Please, please don't start wrong accusitions towards my clanmates.
They simply really had no idea :-)

Blame me, it was my idea and I gladly await your hatered :-)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: The_Angle on July 28, 2011, 10:17:51 am
We southern folk are almost totally oblivious to whats going on in the north(Well I am anyways) I was always thinking that the North was nice and quiet, peaceful too. While we Southerners are in the crucible of war constant.
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Post by: Kazak on July 28, 2011, 10:18:37 am
...The battle horn of mercenaries (you can actually hear it in our team speak) shall sound in the deep, it will be a red night...
Talking about that screaming guy? Yeah he is funny.
2Merc's enemies: Guy's you have no chance. Better stop before it's too late.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 28, 2011, 10:22:28 am
Time to get my popcorn. Gonna be a good show.

I look forward to seeing how things go down. Mercs have some great players. But the weight is against them. Good luck to both sides.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Kazak on July 28, 2011, 10:25:54 am
...But the weight is against them...

Are you sure you that know what you are talking about?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 10:28:42 am
Talking about that screaming guy? Yeah he is funny.
2Merc's enemies: Guy's you have no chance. Better stop before it's too late.

We dont stand chances against certain factions anyways... So why shouldn't we just play the game?

Kazak knows more than we all do I think :-)
I expect reinforcements and gold for the mercs soon. Good!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 28, 2011, 10:29:06 am
Are you sure you that know what you are talking about?

Looking at the battle time tables...except for 2 of them, the other 4 battles have the mercs outnumbered on tickets. I said they have good players, so that will make the difference probably.

Also why I said it will be a good show.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 10:30:01 am
Hope that entry comment from noc is roleplay only, if not, its just another reason to stop playing this !!!"game"!!!


Vulgaris Magistralis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reOLeLX0Q9U#t=16s)


Get your self a nice cup of good morning coffee and re think that if I seriously ride mammoths around  :P
Never been cursed at that much in a game community inbox is having rage bukkake, although its amusing to see people getting encouraged by numbers and I'm still smiling. We gonna have fun tonight.

Hagall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1ct1xomoY)
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Post by: Akincibegi on July 28, 2011, 10:34:13 am
like searaiders said less talkin more raidin :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Greziz on July 28, 2011, 10:35:53 am
I sorta feel like the mercs are hinting they have deep walleted benefactors and they will be strutting around on plated chargers?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 10:36:19 am
Get your self a nice cup of good morning coffee and re think that if I seriously ride mammoths around  :P
Never been cursed at that much in a game community inbox is having rage bukkake, although its amusing to see people getting encouraged by numbers and I'm still smiling. We gonna have fun tonight.

Hagall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn1ct1xomoY)

Fuck sake, I allrdy had two, sitting at work, thinking, how you got those mammoths from chadz....xD

Mercs getting help from all over the place with gold and troops is a calculated risk...


Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 10:48:46 am
Fuck sake, I allrdy had two, sitting at work, thinking, how you got those mammoths from chadz....xD

Mercs getting help from all over the place with gold and troops is a calculated risk...

all over the place??? If we had such help we wouldn't have such a small amount of troops. Any way, I don't see any reason to continue talking to you. We had an official agreement between leaders with diplomats in one TS and now you just refuse all that like BRD did. You can take our villages, you can kill our men with your horde but you'll never achieve glory for that and you'll still be a coward lying backstabber. And remember that even if the last Mercenary will stay alive he will raise his sword to cut off your lying tongue.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 10:50:01 am
So, vMega is not only a lolstabber but a very proficient backstabber as well.......  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 10:54:30 am
all over the place??? If we had such help we wouldn't have such a small amount of troops. Any way, I don't see any reason to continue talking to you. We had an official agreement between leaders with diplomats in one TS and now you just refuse all that like BRD did. You can take our villages, you can kill our men with your horde but you'll never achieve glory for that and you'll still be a coward lying backstabber. And remember that even if the last Mercenary will stay alive he will raise his sword to cut off your lying tongue.

GLORY IN A COPUTAGAME, hell yeah.
This is supposed to entertain people.

Can't get rid of the feeling u take thinks too serious?

Btw. Thanks Gnjus.

First official agreement i can think of will be posted OFFICIALLY soon.
We will stick to that.

Anything else is just stuff that could make smbdys tongue hurt...but nothing official ;-)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Snickers on July 28, 2011, 11:18:37 am
As i said before. Lying and Backstabbing isn't a big deal, they wouldn't have stabbed you in the back unless they had a reason to, either you had done something to make them dislike you or they just like the FCC better. Since the FCC is clearly superior to the Mercs and, the defeat of the Mercs were imminent, i am not surprised they back stabbed you.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 11:26:31 am
As i said before. Lying and Backstabbing isn't a big deal, they wouldn't have stabbed you in the back unless they had a reason to, either you had done something to make them dislike you or they just like the FCC better. Since the FCC is clearly superior to the Mercs and, the defeat of the Mercs were imminent, i am not surprised they back stabbed you.

No backstabbing since there was no official agreement.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Ryqiem on July 28, 2011, 11:27:37 am
There are some reasonable points in this thread.

One thing I do not like is the time you decided to attack us. We have to stay up until 0:00-5:00 to fight in a game! Really?

I don't call that honor, I call that treachery.

And yes, I know that's how wars are fought.

For some of us though, this game is played for fun, not to win by abusing what I call a flaw in the game mechanics.

One thing is certain, blood will be spilled like water in the monsoon.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 11:30:53 am
Since the FCC is clearly superior to the Mercs and, the defeat of the Mercs were imminent,

 :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Magikarp on July 28, 2011, 11:35:05 am
This is funny, the mercs are getting attacked from all sides, yet they keep being arrogantbeing pride of themselves.  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: bosco on July 28, 2011, 11:40:35 am
There are some reasonable points in this thread.

One thing I do not like is the time you decided to attack us. We have to stay up until 0:00-5:00 to fight in a game! Really?

I don't call that honor, I call that treachery.

And yes, I know that's how wars are fought.

For some of us though, this game is played for fun, not to win by abusing what I call a flaw in the game mechanics.

One thing is certain, blood will be spilled like water in the monsoon.

Germany has school summer holidays, of course they have time to fight at night.  :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cepeshi on July 28, 2011, 11:45:46 am
God, if i knew earlier, it would be easier for me to manage vacation, but like this, blaaaah, screw u HRE
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: TheGriffin88 on July 28, 2011, 11:55:41 am
ENG_ will probably be there!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cohen on July 28, 2011, 11:56:34 am
as a matter of fact, we have to stay up the exactly same time, most ppl of hre are from germany as you might know. i don't like the battletimes neither.
we don't have school summer holidays in all parts of germany btw and hre only has a few (i think 2?) ppl young enough who are still in school also.

i'm looking forward to some nice fights and i'm sure the mercs will give us lots of those. of cource i'll play to win, but if we loose, who cares. after all, that's why i'm PLAYING this GAME. to have fun.
i don't get it why a game can give someone hard feelings...

btw i found out about us attacking the mercs this morning, when i looked at the strat map :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 11:56:58 am
God, if i knew earlier, it would be easier for me to manage vacation, but like this, blaaaah, screw u HRE

Angry German Kids even learned something from the Turks: sneak-night-time-attacks tactics........moar Turks to Germany please !  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 28, 2011, 12:05:08 pm
Guess you should have expected it, i warned you ;)

Mercs from last strategus changed almost at all, all the founders left, most of the the members weren't part of the faction during 1st strategus, context isn't the same

you still had some cards but you didn't play it well imo, you failed at politics but you still get a chance to beat in battle, well you just have 2 options: win or get back to start with worse cards, but well you can win a round with a bad hand

i'd say that the funniest part is that this thread just sounds as in last strategus, except that this time they surprised you and attacked, whereas last time i was barking louder than them  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 12:15:32 pm
as a matter of fact, we have to stay up the exactly same time, most ppl of hre are from germany as you might know. i don't like the battletimes neither.
we don't have school summer holidays in all parts of germany btw and hre only has a few (i think 2?) ppl young enough who are still in school also.

i'm looking forward to some nice fights and i'm sure the mercs will give us lots of those. of cource i'll play to win, but if we loose, who cares. after all, that's why i'm PLAYING this GAME. to have fun.
i don't get it why a game can give someone hard feelings...

btw i found out about us attacking the mercs this morning, when i looked at the strat map :D

This just makes all the impatient threads in our forum about us not doing anything an even much better read...wildest guesses...xD
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 12:37:15 pm
Angry German Kids even learned something from the Turks: sneak-night-time-attacks tactics........moar Turks to Germany please !  :wink:

Already too many  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 28, 2011, 12:39:17 pm
Its a fuckin´game and meaning of this game is to fight, you should be happy.

What is crapy is to call on treachery and backstabbing, you the mercs who were neutrals... You used tgis neutral statut in last strat, now ir deserve you...

Oh and stop to be paranoid its pathetic.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 12:52:03 pm
Spears shall be shaken!
 
Shields shall be splintered!

A sword-day!

A red-day!

Ere the sun rises!

DEATH!


We will ride with you Mercs, to the death!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 28, 2011, 12:54:57 pm
thought you already died against turks  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 28, 2011, 12:57:05 pm
 :cry: Y U so mean?  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Oh well, holidays coming up, cant complain.
We shall fight you till the last drop of blood etc etc.
Oh and Noc aint kidding about his fucking warhorn. I swear to god I could punch him for the noise that thing makes on ts.

EDIT: 4 am......

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 12:58:23 pm
You should learn the history of the coming of the croats, consider mercs the byzantium  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 12:59:42 pm
Olwen, it's easy for you to speak so because you're in a big faction which can grind and has no enemies. You didn't fight with small faction against 9 clans in the last strategus.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 28, 2011, 01:07:01 pm
because mercs were a big faction without enemies last strategus ? :)

if nobody attacked us it's because we, the leaders, did good at politics

still i guess you don't even know how many people were plotting to gank us  :lol:

i wanted to change my gameplay, being mercs leader for 1 strategus was enough for me, now i'm in Grey Order because i wanted to play a part of the game i didn't know, i could have joined bandits and you'd have said i went easy way  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 01:18:03 pm
diplomacy? What kind of diplomacy would you like to see? No diplomats there, only traitors and liars.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 28, 2011, 01:22:24 pm
Dave don´t be so hard witg your team mates...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 01:22:58 pm
This disgusts me

I am very dissapointed from HRE

I cant wait to fight all you traitors and backstabbers on the field, teaching you being honest and hold your words

Lets clear it in the most honest way

Let the War begin
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 28, 2011, 01:24:04 pm
diplomacy? What kind of diplomacy would you like to see? No diplomats there, only traitors and liars.  :rolleyes:

Not traitors and liars. They outsmarted you guys. You should know in these kind of things you can't trust anyone and you must always watch your own back. Especially if it's a very flimsy agreement, like the one you all had. Just accept it that they won on the diplomacy front and attempt to fight your way out and prove yourselves in the field.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 28, 2011, 01:24:35 pm
Dave don´t be so hard witg your team mates...

the english language has sued you for rape
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 01:24:50 pm
Dave don´t be so hard witg your team mates...

I'm talking about our enemies, not about my team mates  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 28, 2011, 01:31:09 pm
seriously! Your irony detector must be broken, i understand better why you see traitors and liars everywhere...

Yup, Xant sorry for my english, i was not only charged for rape, but for crimes against humanity!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 01:38:11 pm
We dont stand chances against certain factions anyways... So why shouldn't we just play the game?

Kazak knows more than we all do I think :-)
I expect reinforcements and gold for the mercs soon. Good!

They have been getting them all along.  Its how DaveUKR got 1000 troops and equipment.  Mercs talk a lot of shit about being ganged up on but they got troops from the west (at least a 1000 that we know of for sure) and another 500+ troops from the bandits in Ushkuru and then more troops from Cotgs and Wolves (who they kind of screwed over as allies by not really showing up for their battles or helping them properly with buying equipment as their first tiem in strategus). 

We have been the underdogs for a while, but because of all their troops assistance they made another aggressive move of attacking blackrose with 2700 troops and moving DaveUKR with 1200 troops North to attack our villages.  If they were not so arrogant and had hunkered down they would have close to parity in these fights as being the same size as the attackers forces.  They can only blame themselvesa s they ahve been repeatedly outmaneuvered on the strategus map and then they whine and bitch because it isn't playing out the same as last strategus (It's a game - DEAL WITH IT).

Last Note:  YOu are a MERCENARIES clan, go be mercenaries and leave the land-owning to others.

Also, it seems like anyone who attacks you is a backstabber, sounds like you are 12 years old whining and calling everyone cheaters because they don't let you win.


Either way the battles should be fun, remember its a game, whatever happens I know I'm happy - even if we lsoe I won't whine like a little bitch anbd call everyone backstabbers and liars.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Hydro on July 28, 2011, 01:48:10 pm
I'm new to Mount & Blade and c-rpg.
The impression I tend to get of merc is very arrogant, without results to back it up. For instance boasting about winning but not mentioning their losses or when confronted with them making excuses. Or looking at the fallen tournament results. So if you don't want to be everyone's enemy maybe you should look to your own clans attitude and QQ less.
But I'm new so what do I know..
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Prpavi on July 28, 2011, 01:48:52 pm
Wolves (who they kind of screwed over as allies by not really showing up for their battles or helping them properly with buying equipment as their first tiem in strategus). 




Nice try of sleazly divide and conquer tactics.

a lil hint: not gonna work in this case  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 01:51:27 pm
I was just amazed that the Mercs were so brazenly confident that they went on the offensive with 3700 troops while there was a 4000 man army on the move right beside them O_o.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 28, 2011, 01:55:12 pm
Angry German Kids even learned something from the Turks: sneak-night-time-attacks tactics........moar Turks to Germany please !  :wink:

Nah, nah gnjus was the shave of the turks so careless that your bum is sore? :D


Sorry Mercs for being the lemon that is strained.
I never had grudges against you and it was always a pleasure to fight with you and i hope fighting against you will be aswell.
Yes, we had a fuzzy unoffical agreement with consisted of "i scratch your back, you scratch mine".
It's nothing personal just "business". Even though the odds look bad now i bet it will be interesting considering Noctas ability to pulling support out of his hat.

P.S. The horn is awesome!

EDIT: Well actually i have to correct myself, it is personal. You sided with CotgS, we side against you. It's like flipping a coin.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blondin on July 28, 2011, 02:00:15 pm
This new strat is awesome, clans didn't take any castle or town and are already at war.

Dunno who will take advantage of this situation?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gingerpussy on July 28, 2011, 02:05:09 pm
No man has a good enough memory to make a successful liar.
- Abraham Lincoln

So true....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 28, 2011, 02:21:28 pm
No man rages like a ginger, until his ass is shaved.
- Sujng the horselover <3

So true....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 02:25:56 pm
krampe hasn't scratched my back for so long, I was just jealous....

Only thing missing in this thread so far is one or two fat white//mexican// black chick(s) getting naked for no reason, starting a fight maybe while the audience starts screaming: "Jerry, Jerry, Jerry."

Great, keep going guys!!!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 28, 2011, 02:26:33 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9gN2hdybFY

BAD TROLLS! THE LOT OF YA!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cepeshi on July 28, 2011, 02:26:59 pm
Hope ill get accepted to some, this promises to be some epic battling !
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Timotheusthereal on July 28, 2011, 02:27:13 pm
Already there are two great wars raging on the soils of calradia, the human being was indeed born to sunder the realm and feed the starving grass with blood and rotten long dead soldiers.
// excerpts from the scrolls of the mysterious doneky wanderer
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 02:37:23 pm
I don't pretend to know all the intricacies that have happened in this war but. I believe Brd has simply done a better job of playing diplomacy and calling upon our allies to help us.
These people are psychopaths.... it started with lies.. then backstabs.. then some more lies, and highly abusive of game mechanics.
They attack us again at 5 am in the morning. its pure grief

BRD ADMIN KICKING SPECTATORS, AND KICKING OUR PLAYERS ON A STRAT BATTLE (And then covering it up as being a mistake)
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 02:45:01 pm
how old are you seriously 12?  :rolleyes:

Still older then you it seems :D

666 lol, grow up
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 02:54:10 pm
At least we know this Strat is going to be whiped.

And every single clan will know who and who not to trust.

I think backstabbers will be dealt with first. Nobody likes a sneak attack.

This time around, its an honour being gangbanged by so many clans. Shows how much we are still feared.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 03:01:33 pm
At least we know this Strat is going to be whiped.

And every single clan will know who and who not to trust.

I think backstabbers will be dealt with first. Nobody likes a sneak attack.

This time around, its an honour being gangbanged by so many clans. Shows how much we are still feared.

Something tells me we might be old man by the time this happens.

Who knows?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cyber on July 28, 2011, 03:03:16 pm
because mercs were a big faction without enemies last strategus ? :)

if nobody attacked us it's because we, the leaders, did good at politics

still i guess you don't even know how many people were plotting to gank us  :lol:

i wanted to change my gameplay, being mercs leader for 1 strategus was enough for me, now i'm in Grey Order because i wanted to play a part of the game i didn't know, i could have joined bandits and you'd have said i went easy way  :lol:

You can't really compare the current strategus situation with what we had last time at the start. There were really just few big clans, it was not even half as competetive as it is now.

Anyway i look foward to fighting you mercs, i know you are going to be really hard and worthy opponents. Also i hope you don't take this stuff too personally, it is just a game and we are playing this for fun and for me personally wars like this are the most fun part of it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Phazey on July 28, 2011, 03:11:24 pm
You pretend you want a worthy fight yet you attack in the middle of the night at akward timeslots.

I have to work guys. If you want good, fun fights, man up and fight at a decent timeslot.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 03:13:01 pm
You pretend you want a worthy fight yet you attack in the middle of the night at akward timeslots.

I have to work guys. If you want good, fun fights, man up and fight at a decent timeslot.

+1
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Corwin on July 28, 2011, 03:15:08 pm
What? HRE attacking without provocation or declaration of war at 5AM, with the lamest excuse? Impossible!!!

Wait... does that remind me of something?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 03:24:03 pm
What? HRE attacking without provocation or declaration of war at 5AM, with the lamest excuse? Impossible!!!

Wait... does that remind me of something?

Don't forget to bring a towel?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: xKhanxBROMS on July 28, 2011, 03:26:24 pm
But ya nothing personal mercs.  We just had a couple thousand guys running around looking for a cause and turns out our forces have been pointed at your towns.  But, in reading your members posts I realize how these armies all come to be arrayed against you.  What a bunch of cocky whiners.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 28, 2011, 03:26:45 pm
Where do we attack at 5am?

Nice try but failed.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 03:28:05 pm
I replenished my red bull and snack supply.  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tuonela on July 28, 2011, 03:28:51 pm
You pretend you want a worthy fight yet you attack in the middle of the night at akward timeslots.

I have to work guys. If you want good, fun fights, man up and fight at a decent timeslot.

This. In Finnish time the battles start at 1am 2am 3am 4am and 6am and that is just fucking annoying.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 03:31:35 pm
i know FCC tried to get its army to you sooner, but thats the way it all played out. there is no such thing as a good time. theres 8 hours where EU is sleeping and NA is free, 8 hours where EU is working and NA is sleeping and 8 hours where EU is free and NA is working.

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 03:32:06 pm
Where do we attack at 5am?

Nice try but failed.

Timezones
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: MrShine on July 28, 2011, 03:32:48 pm
You pretend you want a worthy fight yet you attack in the middle of the night at akward timeslots.

I have to work guys. If you want good, fun fights, man up and fight at a decent timeslot.

Speaking as someone from NA, what you consider to be an 'awkward timeslot' is actually 5-10 PM where I live.  Perfect times for someone who has a 'regular' job and responsibilities. 

Your attack on Amere is the middle of the day on a workweek for me (2PM) so I won't be able to make it.  I could say the same thing about you.

Stop acting like you're poor innocent victims of some sinister conspiracy.  It's a game; diplomacy, conceit, and a bunch of fighting is the point.  It's supposed to be fun win or lose and acting all butthurt shows you're taking all of this way too seriously.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 03:39:07 pm
for the people who have seen this thread as whining, i think you should read it again, who's whining ?, we can see the funny side in all of this, we're gonna have some fun whilst we're at it, as it stands, i don't like alot of you people, i think alot of you are a bunch of idiots, think what you like about us, i don't care in the slightest, all i know is that today is gonna be one fucking fun day in strategus...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 03:40:04 pm
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11609.new.html#new

Vote yes for more sleep
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 03:42:21 pm
i think alot of you are a bunch of idiots

No need to take it personal, its just a game.  Grow up, I thought most EU clans were older, mid-20s and 30s, but maybe Mercs recruit teenagers and pre-pubescents that need to call people dumb-dumbs and potty-mouths??
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tuonela on July 28, 2011, 03:44:08 pm
No need to take it personal, its just a game.  Grow up, I thought most EU clans were older, mid-20s and 30s, but maybe Mercs recruit teenagers and pre-pubescents that need to call people dumb-dumbs and potty-mouths??

No, most of Mercs just have jobs and they don't like to stay up all night just to fight in a video game.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 03:50:21 pm
that's the bit you quote from my post and say, it's just a game, grow up, maybe you should read it again...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 28, 2011, 03:50:57 pm
Timezones

I doubt Corwinus lives behind the Ural


First i had really concerns attacking the mercs because i like some of your members especially Phazh and Burrick (the true hammerer)
but the more i read here the more i think it was the right decision.
The timeslots give me troubles too because i have to work, but considering the playerbase which will fight for us it is a compromise.

@Lizard what is it what Jambi/Dave are doing then? Triplepost throwing dirt.
Enragement = Entertainment
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Magikarp on July 28, 2011, 03:51:17 pm
No need to take it personal, its just a game.  Grow up, I thought most EU clans were older, mid-20s and 30s, but maybe Mercs recruit teenagers and pre-pubescents that need to call people dumb-dumbs and potty-mouths??
Haha, first time I like a post of yours :P.   (LIES!)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Hydro on July 28, 2011, 04:02:10 pm
I find the amount of crying in this thread by a clan that normally "conquers" the forums with their trolling quite amusing.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blackzilla on July 28, 2011, 04:03:21 pm
Couldn't expect such a big amount of lie, meanness and treachery from HRE. Everyone will remember you not as a clan who captured something, but a clan who lied and backstabbed Mercenaries.

For other people to clear this situation: HRE had an official agreement with Mercs, they helped us against BRD reinforcing Tebandra because they wanted that village. And I came to their TS a couple of times to ask why there are so many troops in our lands and they lied that they're going to help LLJK (as Loki, the leader of Fallens, said me personally) and NetzwerG lied to me as well. Do you remember that i wished you good luck when I was leaving your teamspeak? Now I take these words back and I wish you to have what you have deserved.



Now were is your proof? For all i know your making crap up!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blackzilla on July 28, 2011, 04:06:43 pm
all over the place??? If we had such help we wouldn't have such a small amount of troops. Any way, I don't see any reason to continue talking to you. We had an official agreement between leaders with diplomats in one TS and now you just refuse all that like BRD did. You can take our villages, you can kill our men with your horde but you'll never achieve glory for that and you'll still be a coward lying backstabber. And remember that even if the last Mercenary will stay alive he will raise his sword to cut off your lying tongue.




I think destroying the mercs would be good enough for me!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 04:07:15 pm
I find the amount of crying in this thread by a clan that normally "conquers" the forums with their trolling quite amusing.

i for one am sat here with a smile on my face...  :) << see ??
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 04:09:33 pm
i for one am sat here with a smile on my face...  :) << see ??

 :lol:

Well I dont take anything related to internet personal, but its really interesting to see how treacherous people can be  :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 04:19:54 pm


Now were is your proof? For all i know your making crap up!

Every single word said by me is truth  :rolleyes: And i think that there is a post of HRE member who admits that it's true...


And I'm a bit tired of all this Strategus anti-merc conspiracy. I'm not having fun fighting at deep night  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 04:21:56 pm
No, most of Mercs just have jobs and they don't like to stay up all night just to fight in a video game.

Same here, your attack times are a bit fucked up too for NA folks.
And I'm a bit tired of all this Strategus anti-merc conspiracy. I'm not having fun fighting at deep night  :rolleyes:

What Conspiracy? Everything that is being done against the Mercs is done out in the open and planned without secrecy, or simply no planning at all and are just folks taking attacks of opportunity.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 04:23:52 pm
Same here, your attack times are a bit fucked up too for NA folks.

they have a day-time when we attack them, not 2-6 AM
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 04:26:43 pm
they have a day-time when we attack them, not 2-6 AM

2pm on a workday, so mercs can at least go without sleep, but we must skip our jobs? Same thing.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Belatu on July 28, 2011, 04:30:07 pm
This is,,,, in fact,,,, a cool story bro
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Post by: DaveUKR on July 28, 2011, 04:33:24 pm
Tears_of_Destiny, i think that you didn't read what HRE said or you're just trying to lie as well  :rolleyes: both BRD and HRE planned their backstabbing attacks against Mercs in secret, some HRE members didn't even know about it (as they've said), both clans have agreements with Mercs, both clans were trying to find a reason to attack us, both clans were saying that they didn't have any agreements with us  :rolleyes:
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Post by: Varyag on July 28, 2011, 04:33:41 pm
It's funny how some clans behave. Guys, this strategus will be wiped anyway, its a pre alpha. But personally I will remember your treachery and in the future strategus battles of other clans against your clans I will always join your adversaries. I believe other Mercs will do the same. So, like I said before, we may loose these fiefs now, but long term you got yourself big trouble in strategus.
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Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 28, 2011, 04:34:20 pm
I doubt Corwinus lives behind the Ural


3 am and 4 am for me i guess its 5 for him
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 04:35:41 pm
2pm on a workday, so mercs can at least go without sleep, but we must skip our jobs? Same thing.

Lol, as if you got a job :D

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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 04:48:35 pm
Tears_of_Destiny, i think that you didn't read what HRE said or you're just trying to lie as well  :rolleyes: both BRD and HRE planned their backstabbing attacks against Mercs in secret, some HRE members didn't even know about it (as they've said), both clans have agreements with Mercs, both clans were trying to find a reason to attack us, both clans were saying that they didn't have any agreements with us  :rolleyes:

No man has a good enough memory to make a successful liar.
- Abraham Lincoln

So true....

Just because you repeat something often enough doesn't make it true.

Exactly how it played out: You went on our vent after we took the first village in the area, it wasn't working for you, so you had Kalam go over to your ts.  You told him that if we took Amere you would attack us (ultimatum threat), you then told him if we didn't do anyhting that you would eventually relocate us (arrogance).  Kalam said he couldn't make a decsion and would need to consult his clan.  Next day, BEFORE we ever responded to your arrogant terms (we were probably going to say no) you went and sent an army across our own village (our territory without asking) and attacked amere and sent another army to attck Tosdhar.  We had marshalled our army not sure if your army heading across our village was going to attack us.  We then agreed in our clan that you fully intended to take all the villages in the area and try to push us out and we had no choice - either fight now or run away.  So of course we attacked you arrogant assholes, who whined and called it backstabbing because we didn't cater to you.

Down the road - Blackrose was approached by you, you tried to get them to merc for you against another NA clan and offered gold - but then you didn't pay them (you could have screen-shotted the end of battle k/ds like we do and you could have paid them).  So we approached them and offered solid pay (we delivered), then we became closer and offered Amere once we outmaneuvered you into leaving it defenseless and we gave it to them.  No treachery - just pure fail on your part.

Wolves - Only a few of you guys showed up when they were defending their one and only village even though many wolves ahd showed up for your earlier battles and your own merc battle an hour alter yous howed up in force (you could easily have showed up an hour later and the wolves might have won), you also screwed them over when you gave them bad advice on buying equipment for their first strategus village defense.

HRE - A bunch of clans decided to drop troops and gold there after the valorous defense there (REMEMEBR TEBANDRA) and prevent us from taking it.  There was no alliance or defensive pact made by reinforcing a neutral village.  But somehow you Mercs think that by giving troops to the neutral village HRE committed to never attacking you???  How is that backstabbing?  Its just your deluded minds blaming everyone else for your failures and calling everyone backstabbers and trying to spread it to other clans through teamspeaks. 

A lie oft-repeated will always remain a lie - just a popular one.  Its time to grow up.
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 04:49:16 pm
Couldn't resist to paste this statement from another thread here:

Or are you one of the idiots in Strat who think diplomacy is not an important and central aspect of the game?

Sorry to inform you lads but more then 50% of the clans in this game is led (and have their "diplomacy" done) by complete and utter retards so I don't think you can expect much from them. I'm just hoping the developers will make a final version of this game in a way that will not FORCE you to communicate with such brainfarts if you wanna survive.
That said, I'd like to ask "king" Plazek how do you do "diplomacy" with retards ? By acting like one of them, i presume ?
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Post by: Everkistus on July 28, 2011, 04:54:24 pm
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I showed you my true color.
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Post by: Gorath on July 28, 2011, 04:55:55 pm
I showed you my true color.

So not surprising that with Fallen it's yellow.
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Post by: Everkistus on July 28, 2011, 04:57:14 pm
Read "my", I didn't talk anything about Fallens :)
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Post by: Beauchamp on July 28, 2011, 04:58:31 pm
the only ones that were able to accept the fact of being attacked with honor were DRZ (but i still think its only because most of their members didn't speak english at all :D)

i said this also in the last strat - this "game" turns people into retards (i used to be one of them). personally i'd prefer us to be fiefless faction and do only the sneaky raids for lolz and rage like this, especially now when villages are worth a shit and anybody with decent playercount can raise an army.
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Post by: krampe on July 28, 2011, 05:02:44 pm
@Dave stop twisting everything until it fits your opinion.


@Varyag so there will be not much of a difference.

"It's funny how some clans behave"
Exactly, take some time to mirror your clans behaviour now and in the past.


@Gnjus So you're doing all the bandits diplo yourself? :P
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 05:03:03 pm
I recon i can show my true colors as well (believe it or not):

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@Gnjus So you're doing all the bandits diplo yourself? :P

Yes i do, at least I'm not so retarded to come to your TS and lie in your face just to get some advantage in a shitty game, and then call it "diplomacy" (and yes, this is coming from a Bandit, its a game not real life, if i need to screw you I'll just hit you from behind without talking shit to you first, if you wanna win why don't you try it without making fools out of people ? Someone will come now and say "well, you don't need to trust them". Ok, so when anyone wants to speak with me what do i say to him ? Fuck off ? By now I'd need to tell it to: Sultan Eren, Battal Gazi, Aykutarslan, Chagan Arslan, Everkistus, Sir Crymoar and many more leaders & diplomats, and what would they think of me ? Trolling & roleplaying is one thing but when you speak to someone some minimum of decency should be required and everyone who spoke to me know very well i never crossed the line). :wink:
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Post by: Olwen on July 28, 2011, 05:08:49 pm
balls

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You are very perceptive and smart. You are clear and to the point and have a great sense of humor. You are always learning and searching for understanding.

< noob of the internet, don't know how this code thing works, i was yellow with 101/180
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 05:11:05 pm
Not... what I was expecting...

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Aqua:

You enjoy life, humor, and being exuberant. Wherever you go you usually find yourself stealing the spotlight without even trying. You love to let go and have fun.
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Post by: Siiem on July 28, 2011, 05:18:28 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t6xIiehwO0
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Post by: DrTaco on July 28, 2011, 05:24:47 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLexgOxsZu0

:D

On a serious note.. You conquered how much of old Strat? You expect to be left alone? All is fair is love and war. You just were too dangerous. No you are going to die.
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Post by: Dexxtaa on July 28, 2011, 05:42:07 pm
I will fight for the Mercs, if you will have me.

I do not represent my clan, I represent myself.
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Post by: Siiem on July 28, 2011, 06:00:07 pm
I'll fight for Noc, as long as he leads the battle.
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 06:15:24 pm
   VIOLET

You surround yourself with art and music and are constantly driven to express yourself. You often daydream. You prefer honesty in your relationships and believe strongly in your personal morals.
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Post by: Dexxtaa on July 28, 2011, 06:21:54 pm
   VIOLET

You surround yourself with art and music and are constantly driven to express yourself. You often daydream. You prefer honesty in your relationships and believe strongly in your personal morals.

Otherwise known as "a girl"
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Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 06:26:58 pm
Otherwise known as "a girl"

 :lol:

Ah i need to test mine now  :lol:
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 06:31:45 pm
Otherwise known as "a girl"

 :P
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Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 06:32:32 pm
What the hell...

Im orange   :cry:
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Post by: [ptx] on July 28, 2011, 06:39:24 pm
Meh, if i was to be ganged upon by almost every faction around me at early strat, i would be raging hard and calling them all pathethic sons of ******. I'd say the mercs are almost unusually calm about this  :lol:

Also, i'm green.  :)
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 06:42:07 pm
Meh, if i was to be ganged upon by almost every faction around me at early strat, i would be raging hard and calling them all pathethic sons of ******. I'd say the mercs are almost unusually calm about this  :lol:

Also, i'm green.  :)

I think i might be falling inlove with you again PtX. you understand us fully  :lol:
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 28, 2011, 06:43:26 pm
Maybe mercs should have tried something called "diplomacy". 
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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 06:43:48 pm
Meh, if i was to be ganged upon by almost every faction around me at early strat, i would be raging hard and calling them all pathethic sons of ******. I'd say the mercs are almost unusually calm about this  :lol:

Also, i'm green.  :)

Yeh, I guess we Americans handle it much better when Mercs, Wolves, Bandits, CotgS, and a very large clan to the west sending troops and equipment to them were ganging up on us.  Maybe we are a little more mature over here and don't whine and lie and try to blame everyone else when a GAME doesn't play out how we want it too.

Also, I'm ultraviolet light.
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 06:46:29 pm
Maybe mercs should have tried something called "diplomacy".

Maybe they tried but met only lying retards on the other side of the table ?
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Post by: Chagan_Arslan on July 28, 2011, 06:46:34 pm
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Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 06:47:39 pm
epic gif... :P
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Post by: MrShine on July 28, 2011, 06:49:55 pm
Maybe they tried but met only lying retards on the other side of the table ?

Maybe being a historically arrogant and self interested clan, that revels in the said arrogance and elitism, inevitably will make more enemies than friends?

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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 28, 2011, 06:50:14 pm
Maybe they tried but met only lying retards on the other side of the table ?

So they got swindled...seems like one of a few obvious outcomes to diplomacy.  A large faction trying to control a lot of land is going to be an obvious choice for people to attack (and form alliances against).  It's like single player, if any kingdom starts getting too big other factions will try to curb their power.
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Post by: [ptx] on July 28, 2011, 06:52:29 pm
When i look at strat map, the only really large faction i see is the Grey order ;)

Not trying to stir up anything ;d
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 06:57:30 pm
Yeh, I guess we Americans handle it much better when Mercs, Wolves, Bandits, CotgS, and a very large clan to the west sending troops and equipment to them were ganging up on us.  Maybe we are a little more mature over here and don't whine and lie and try to blame everyone else when a GAME doesn't play out how we want it too.

Cool story, bro. Especially the Bandits part, who actually were in the desert fighting their own battles vs Turks, bugs & immature lying kids, when you decided to spread your manure all over the central part of the map.  :wink:

Also: what latvian said: if you call Mercs a big faction then you obviously don't know what big means (i recon that's what its like to be used to only small "things" in life).  :wink:
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Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 06:59:38 pm
LETS ALL FLOOD THE GREY ORDER LANDS !!!  :lol:

Just kidding of course *cough*  :lol:
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 07:00:18 pm
Mercs are not a Big Faction. Big is like the Fallen/Grey/LLJK where they have 80+ active members (not counting Vassals). That is big.

They are, however, pretty decently sized, and sort of large comparatively, and rather wealthy when looking at how many members they have (I have to admit, the Mercs do have a nack for making and keeping Gold and Land).
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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 07:03:46 pm
Cool story, bro. Especially the Bandits part, who actually were in the desert fighting their own battles vs Turks, bugs & immature lying kids, when you decided to spread your manure all over the central part of the map.  :wink:

Also: what latvian said: if you call Mercs a big faction then you obviously don't know what big means (i recon that's what its like to be used to only small "things" in life).  :wink:

So you weren't mercing and helping out the mercs when you got up here???  I didn't say when, my silly pug-nosed friend.  I simply stated the obvious that saying they are getting ganged up on when they just finished doing the same thing is kind of silly.   If you look at the battles, they don't have that many less troops than us as they have the assistance of multiple clans.  If they were not so arrogant as to go send 3700 troops to go off and attack recklessly, this never would be possible as we would have less than 1 for 1 on all these village fights on EU ping.  You can only blame bad strategical decisions for that failure.
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Post by: CrazyCracka420 on July 28, 2011, 07:04:19 pm
so grey order it is :D

/Disclosure:  I'm in no way involved in the hospitaller's diplomacy
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:04:23 pm
Yeh, I guess we Americans handle it much better when Mercs, Wolves, Bandits, CotgS, and a very large clan to the west sending troops and equipment to them were ganging up on us.  Maybe we are a little more mature over here and don't whine and lie and try to blame everyone else when a GAME doesn't play out how we want it too.

Also, I'm ultraviolet light.

Actually this is a nice try Keshian. But you forget to meantion how this all started.

You backstabbed us by attacking our villages, while you said you had no interest in our lands. Then the whole musical chair thing began with the villages.
We beat you guys. and at that point you were bringing in other clans, to start backstabbing us.
Then us mercs had to decide, and we brought in reinforcements of ourselves.

You forgot how we beat you, and how immature and arrogant you were before the whole Emerin thing.

And with the stuff your writing now, you show us how immature you are. Not being able to think about your own actions, but rather point the finger. You lie and manipulate.

Im definatly looking forward to strat being whiped.... and see the demise of BRD

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Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 07:06:26 pm
"History is always written by the winners. When two cultures clash, the loser is obliterated, and the winner writes the history books-books which glorify their own cause and disparage the conquered foe. As Napoleon once said, 'What is history, but a fable agreed upon?" Dan Brown (The Da Vinci Code)
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Post by: [ptx] on July 28, 2011, 07:08:15 pm
Not entirely true. Spanish won over aztecs, but we all know 'em for the scum they are  :wink:
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Post by: Blackzilla on July 28, 2011, 07:09:09 pm
Every single word said by me is truth  :rolleyes: And i think that there is a post of HRE member who admits that it's true...


And I'm a bit tired of all this Strategus anti-merc conspiracy. I'm not having fun fighting at deep night  :rolleyes:

i'm HRE? Ive never seen you in TS? Show me the post that says we talked to you...
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Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 07:09:46 pm
Not entirely true. Spanish won over aztecs, but we all know 'em for the scum they are  :wink:

True, hehehe, but it did take several hundred years for it to be proven that Cortez was a filthy liar and did in fact make heavy use of Natives and did not singlehandedly conquer the Aztec Empire... That con artist! All this after the Spanish Colonists stopped being Spanish Colonists, so in a way... they rewrote the rewritten history.
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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 07:12:35 pm
Actually this is a nice try Keshian. But you forget to meantion how this all started.

You backstabbed us by attacking our villages, while you said you had no interest in our lands.
We beat you guys. and at that point you were bringing in other clans, to start backstabbing us.

Sooooo... pretty much anyone that attacks you is a backstabber??  Thats the general consensus I get from you guys.  Do you expect no one to ever attack you with your humble and generous diplomacy?? (in last strategus you were never attacked so you never had to lose, your old leaders were far more capable - both diplomatically and strategically).

Losing one battle to an issue with only 1 spawn point (which chadz has already fixed) doesn't mean we were beaten.  You brought in the wolves and when you tried to take a village we took one from you and the other one from the wolves.  When we saw you had Cotgs, Bandits, Wolves, and Mercs all allied together along with DaveUKR going out west with 0 troops and coming back with exactly a 1000, we allied with the Blackrose and gave them Amere.


I honestly will have great fun whether we win or lose, but you guys are acting like sore losers even before you lost - you will always not really enjoy this game, it will only ever be about feeding your egos.

If you win you will gloat and troll and spew your arrogance all over the forums, if you lsoe you will bitch and moan and talk shit about everyone who attacked you.  Me - I won't gloat afterwards and I sure as hell won't whine like a little bitch.

P.S. Just to clarify the Free Companies of Calradia is basically a bunch of small clans that try to help each other succeed in Strategus - so far it includes Bridgeburners (BRD), Cavalieres, and Corns.  We actually are also gathering in other small clans and helping them out with places to recruit or sending assistance in other forms and also helping out new people to Strategus.  So when you keep saying BRD it really doesn't gather the whole picture.
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Post by: kinngrimm on July 28, 2011, 07:14:45 pm
Yeh, I guess we Americans handle it much better ...
indeed, your own alliance were supported by a second alliance from the start, well played.
This second alliance has tight bounds to at least one other major faction.
Then playing out a grudge as pretext as against a lot of them held against mercs because yes they were bigtime in the start.
That and that the mercs have some of the most skilled players gives my respect to the mercs.

Yeah they got perhaps sometimes an attitude and sometimes they troll, in some of those cases they wouldn't have had a future in my clan.
Then again you want to judge the whole player community of the mercs because of some trolls of them?

I can see the time and effort and the long planning behind that and for what i learned so far from strat if that goal is reached, it is was only the first step to the next war, the next goal.

today mercs, afterwards  caladria?
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Post by: Gnjus on July 28, 2011, 07:15:34 pm
Ok, lets try this again:

when Mercs, Wolves, Bandits, CotgS, and a very large clan to the west sending troops and equipment to them were ganging up on us.

So you weren't mercing and helping out the mercs when you got up here???  I didn't say when, my silly pug-nosed friend.  I simply stated the obvious that saying they are getting ganged up on when they just finished doing the same thing is kind of silly. 

I ganged up on no one. The reason i got up here (a few days ago) was to help some old friends who started to get ganked by you and your allies.

Lets just make one thing clear: I wasn't here when it started but now I am and I'll stay to the end.
As for the Strat itself: in some final version of it i won't have any problems losing & getting wiped but if that happens I'd prefer it to be because someone outsmarted me on the map and organized his men better, and not because i trusted some pathetic jerk on TS who told me he'll just take his 4000 men on a walk & sightseeing through my villages and then attacked me during the night while i was asleep and couldn't even organize a decent defense.  :wink:
Nothing personal ofc, this is just beta, we are all testing & learning.
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Post by: kinngrimm on July 28, 2011, 07:17:08 pm
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Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 07:19:26 pm
Kesh What are you, boy, if you are not poison? Memorable quotes for Rocknrolla 2008

Did you rant on my topic right from the very start? you did, Did you announce your glory before the battle and got humiliated? you did. After that you and your clan mates asked me to take it easy on you on forums? you did.

Why am I arrogant now? I didn't come to your claims, I didn't start flaming on your topic, I didn't announce the battle results before the battle....list goes far too long. Yet now, you got 7K extra support and you are all same again. Last week I used to read your apologies to your clan mates about how you failed on forums. Am I arrogant? so be it, but what I'm yesterday is what I'm now.

so..

What are you, boy, if you are not poison?
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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 07:21:05 pm
indeed, your own alliance were supported by a second alliance from the start
well played. This second alliance has tight bounds to at least to one other major faction.
Then playing out a grudge, a lot of them held against mercs because yes they were bigtime in the start.
That and that the mercs have some of the most skilled players gives my respect to the mercs.

Yeah they got perhaps sometimes an attitude and sometimes they troll, in some of those cases they wouldn't have had a future in my clan.
Then again you want to judge the whole player community of the mercs because of some trolls of them?

I can see the time and effort and the long planning behind that and for what i learned so far from strat if that goal is reached, it is was only the first step to the next war, the next goal.

today mercs, afterwards  caladria?

+1, I have to say you are the classiest guy among the group.  I really enjoyed the battle at Ayyike as you Wolves seem like stand-up guys.  Maybe in another map we would have been allies.  I wish you the best.

P.S. I am still a little surprised that you have stuck by the Mercs after how little they have helped you.
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Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:22:54 pm
Sooooo... pretty much anyone that attacks you is a backstabber??  Thats the general consensus I get from you guys.  Do you expect no one to ever attack you with your humble and generous diplomacy?? (in last strategus you were never attacked so you never had to lose, your old leaders were far more capable - both diplomatically and strategically).

Losing one battle to an issue with only 1 spawn point (which chadz has already fixed) doesn't mean we were beaten.  You brought in the wolves and when you tried to take a village we took one from you and the other one from the wolves.  When we saw you had Cotgs, Bandits, Wolves, and Mercs all allied together along with DaveUKR going out west with 0 troops and coming back with exactly a 1000, we allied with the Blackrose and gave them Amere.


I honestly will have great fun whether we win or lose, but you guys are acting like sore losers even before you lost - you will always not really enjoy this game, it will only ever be about feeding your egos.

If you win you will gloat and troll and spew your arrogance all over the forums, if you lsoe you will bitch and moan and talk shit about everyone who attacked you.  Me - I won't gloat afterwards and I sure as hell won't whine like a little bitch.

Saying on thing, but doing the other. Is backstabbing, when it comes to this situation.

Also again you point the finger to us, for taking the spawn point in Amere. And we had you retreat with minor loses.
But you seem to have no trouble locking us down on the field, attacking us. without signing up any attackers. So we can only defend, by taking your spawn... and you retreat with minor too no losses at all.

And i dont see this stuff as whining or w/e you want too call it.
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If you win you will gloat and troll and spew your arrogance all over the forums, if you lsoe you will bitch and moan and talk shit about everyone who attacked you.  Me - I won't gloat afterwards and I sure as hell won't whine like a little bitch

At least we might. But we will do it after the battle's and not before the battle's... were not as arrogant as you are Keshian.
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Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 07:28:03 pm
Kesh What are you, boy, if you are not poison? Memorable quotes for Rocknrolla 2008

Did you rant on my topic right from the very start? you did, Did you announce your glory before the battle and got humiliated? you did. After that you and your clan mates asked me to take it easy on you on forums? you did.

Why am I arrogant now? I didn't come to your claims, I didn't start flaming on your topic, I didn't announce the battle results before the battle....list goes far too long. Yet now, you got 7K extra support and you are all same again. Last week I used to read your apologies to your clan mates about how you failed on forums. Am I arrogant? so be it, but what I'm yesterday is what I'm now.

so..

What are you, boy, if you are not poison?

We asked you not to post on our recruitment thread with all your excrement and bile and we would do the same in return.  I apologized for posting on your recruitment thread because that was the wrong place to post anything (I was quite angry as I said because you have been lying on people's teamspeaks since the beginning pretending we had somehow been allied and then backstabbed you when we hardly even knew you other than as a bunch of elitists who had a bunch of the map last strategus by buying lands from others and being one of the first clans on it).

"I didn't come to your claims"  - That was the root of it, wasn't it?  We went and captured a village in the area first and you basically thought you had a claim to the whole Dhirim area because you were there last strategus (by the way why does every clan go right back to the same villages they had in old strategus???).

Stop whining and spread your lies elsewhere.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:30:06 pm
+1, I have to say you are the classiest guy among the group.  I really enjoyed the battle at Ayyike as you Wolves seem like stand-up guys.  Maybe in another map we would have been allies.  I wish you the best.

P.S. I am still a little surprised that you have stuck by the Mercs after how little they have helped you.

Its called having a Morale. Being loyal and trustworthy. You are nothing like Kinngrimm, and you never will be.

Kinngrimm doesnt dream of japanese schoolgirls, with pink pigtails he is WAY more mature then that. Kinngrimm dreams of me!  :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 07:31:02 pm
P.S. I am still a little surprised that you have stuck by the Mercs after how little they have helped you.

You have no single doubt   :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mulic on July 28, 2011, 07:31:49 pm
Not Templar fault God Wills our crusades, and all is as God wills it....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:31:52 pm
We asked you not to post on our recruitment thread with all your excrement and bile and we would do the same in return.  I apologized for posting on your recruitment thread because that was the wrong place to post anything (I was quite angry as I said because you have been lying on people's teamspeaks since the beginning pretending we had somehow been allied and then backstabbed you when we hardly even knew you other than as a bunch of elitists who had a bunch of the map last strategus by buying lands from others and being one of the first clans on it).

"I didn't come to your claims"  - That was the root of it, wasn't it?  We went and captured a village in the area first and you basically thought you had a claim to the whole Dhirim area because you were there last strategus (by the way why does every clan go right back to the same villages they had in old strategus???).

Stop whining and spread your lies elsewhere.

I seriously urge you to stop believing in your own lies Keshian. Look in a mirror, and be honest to yourself for once.
Stop pointing fingers at other people. point it to yourself first, before making such ridiculous accusations.
You should go outside more man, the way you act and express yourself... dude seriously you need friends.
Quit CRPG and try this game.

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Shik on July 28, 2011, 07:32:13 pm
all I can say is that mercs should have tried to make peace while they still could.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 07:32:39 pm
Kinngrimm dream of me!  :P

Come get one

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:35:33 pm
all I can say is that mercs should have tried to make peace while they still could.
Shik, the way BRD expressed themselves. saying they had no interest in our lands.. and were expanding the other direction. They gave us a sign of peace.

And then.. the backstab came.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 28, 2011, 07:43:36 pm
So, which town from Mercs would be ready to attack? ( just joking around  :mrgreen:)

Funny thread, some guys take that game really serious!!

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Camaris on July 28, 2011, 07:43:58 pm
Am i the only one looking forward to this?
Finally some good battles.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Thucydides on July 28, 2011, 07:44:52 pm
Shik, the way BRD expressed themselves. saying they had no interest in our lands.. and were expanding the other direction. They gave us a sign of peace.

And then.. the backstab came.

Quote from: Thucydides
"Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:45:48 pm
Am i the only one looking forward to this?
Finally some good battles.

Ooh yeah looking forward too it bigtime..

You know... staying up all nite, fighting a bunch of lying backstabbers... and people without honor. Fun times
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 07:48:04 pm
Quote from: Jambi on Today at 16:35:33

    Shik, the way BRD expressed themselves. saying they had no interest in our lands.. and were expanding the other direction. They gave us a sign of peace.

    And then.. the backstab came.


Quote from: Thucydides

    "Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."

Yeah 2011. Still a nice mentality to have. Your missing out on evolution
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 28, 2011, 07:48:27 pm
Fun times indeed, cant wait for another sleepless night.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Panoply on July 28, 2011, 07:48:31 pm
From where I'm standing, it just looks like the Mercs got well and truly outplayed, especially from the diplomatic and strategic standpoint. We'll see, maybe they'll be able to call upon allies or show their prowess in the field, but whatever circumstances led up to this and whatever happens after, I have to say that this assault was beautifully coordinated. So hat's off to BRD, BlackRose, HRE, and xKhanx.

I've been a long time player of the board game Diplomacy, as well as a moderator on an online Diplomacy website, so I'm pretty accustomed to all this drama, "backstabbing", "honor" and all that. My advice to the Mercs, if you'll have it, it strikes me that you guys do a lot of posturing and strutting, but you can't in truth back up a lot of your threats. Now, this is a perfectly valid strategy, and common in nature and humanity (especially younger males), but your bluff has been called. It's been shown that you can't credibly defend your claims or follow through on your threats. In nature, when this happens, it is traditional to adopt a submissive stance to ensure your survival. I can understand that you will not run with your tail between your legs, but at the very least some humility would earn you the respect of many of your aggressors and third parties, while still preserving face. How would it look if a defeated politician threw a tantrum and leveled accusations upon the victor, rather than gracefully congratulating them?

The defiance you continue to show is not entirely nonsensical, since given the likelihood of a wipe, it might be worth it to go down in a blaze here to earn a reputation of being vicious when provoked, so as to deter aggressors when strat is restarted. However, this is undermined by your vows of revenge and the grudges you will carry over after the wipe. Veteran Diplomacy players all understand that holding grudges between games is a huge detriment because it makes you predictable and when circumstances are different, where you might have once have had an ally, you will certainly have an enemy. In life, it is sometimes worthwhile to be vengeful and hold grudges to cultivate such a reputation that others will think twice about exploiting, betraying, or lying to you. However, in these circumstances, you have no solid proof that agreements were broken and you were the victim, only your word against theirs. You will garner no sympathy from third parties with that argument. Were I you, I would gracefully acknowledge the skillful co-ordination of your opponents, and make it clear that despite the current enmity, you will always be open to future negotiation, as the diplomatic landscape is sure to change. After all you are mercenaries, not bridgeburners, so why burn all these bridges? ;)

It's up to you to heed my advice, maybe it's not my place to give it. Hell, I could easily be wrong as I'm not experienced in Strategus, and this may not even be close to the end of Mercenaries in this round of strat. It just seems that way to me at this point, but I don't see why you can't turn it around. Either way, I think viewing and treating your opponents as peers and equals would benefit you more. Good luck to all, and may the best players win. :D

EDIT: All these complaints about timezones are funny. As if it were personal! Whenever NA and EU clash, sleep loss is inevitable. :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Thucydides on July 28, 2011, 07:49:32 pm
Yeah 2011. Still a nice mentality to have. Your missing out on evolution

Quote
the weak suffer what they must
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 08:00:21 pm
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Thanks for giving time to this in dept post, you have valid points. But I feel like I should keep it simple and just quote this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf4IoxEUmHM#t=37s)

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Varyag on July 28, 2011, 08:00:50 pm
From my point of view, Mercs and Wolves alone are fighting the entire NA community.
You all know us, we were neutral,  we did not claim your territory, and intended to stay that way.
We did not start that war.
WE WERE ATTACKED AND THAT IS WHAT MATTERS BY THE END OF THE DAY.
So I call other EU clans to think about it.

PERHAPS, YOU WILL BE ATTACKED NEXT?

Who knows how far some NA community leaders can and will go?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Thucydides on July 28, 2011, 08:09:20 pm
NA VS EU CIVIL WARRR
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 08:09:24 pm
FCC has fought for the dhirim area and the dhirim area only. We have no intentions of expanding from the dhirim area.

Also, we have no quarrel with EU players nor any EU clan besides the Mercs who have engaged in war against us. We even get along well enough with the allies of the Mercs and have tried to negotiate peace with them as we have no quarrel with any clan besides the Mercs.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 28, 2011, 08:12:09 pm
Diplomacy matters not now. Can we stop posting about who did what? Only thing left to do is fight a good fight. You can banter about diplomacy all day BRD, but I hope you dont underestimate our skill in battle nor our grasp of strategy. You have made that mistake once already. Good luck to all, this is gonna be a hell of a night.(12-5 am with work 2moro. Hooray for inevitable regrets!)

I shall see you from the other side of my pike kesh.  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Goretooth on July 28, 2011, 08:19:58 pm
Not much to underestimate
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gingerpussy on July 28, 2011, 08:20:41 pm
Il post here after the battles i think.

2 possible outcomes realy , for BRD HRE and those other if u win u gain nothing. If we win we have turned yet another death trap to victory.

Then after the strategus wipe(and maybee a split on EU NA) that most possibly comes. Hre wil be left alone here with us Mercs...hmmm smart move guys.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 08:25:34 pm
From my point of view, Mercs and Wolves alone are fighting the entire NA community.

By entire you mean the FCC and a few random clans, and ignore the other half of the NA clans?

If the entire NA were attacking you, you could add quite a few more singular clans as well as the entire Northern Empire... and you would be dead men walking since that is about three times the amount you are facing now.

Only a third of NA is out for your blood, so shut up already of NA VS Mercs... If the Mercs really think that they are against the entire NA Community then holy shit did you just earn a lot of enemies...

Since V' so graciously -1ed my post, perhaps I should post a list of the Entire NA Community so i can demonstrate how only a few NA clans are having a Merc love fest going on, and not the Entire NA Community?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 08:27:01 pm
We should all shut up and go to battle trance (fun to get in the zone)

Probably the last music I'm posting here until few battles are over
Wardruna - Kauna (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONbS6FJs3L4)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Varyag on July 28, 2011, 08:29:12 pm
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so shut up already
Mister, tell your wife to shut up (if you have one), not to me. Perhaps, she will teach you some good manners after all.
In Mercs thread I will say what I see and whatever I want.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 08:29:51 pm
Mister, tell your wife to shut up (if you have one), not to me. Perhaps, she will teach you some good manners after all.
In Mercs thread I will say what I see and whatever I want.

Then you are quite blind to think that the FCC and a few random clans are the entire NA community.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 28, 2011, 08:36:53 pm
Varyag you made a valid point, but you failed at find the good enemy, this is not NA community...

You will all cry and calling to honor when UIF will crawl on you... NA, EU, Mercs, Brd, Hre, they don´t give a fuck and will pwn all your ass!!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 08:39:25 pm
Varyag you made a valid point, but you failed at find the good enemy, this is not NA community...

You will all cry and calling to honor when UIF will crawl on you... NA, EU, Mercs, Brd, Hre, they don´t give a fuck and will pwn all your ass!!

Druzhina have said UIF doesn't exist anymore.  Plus its not their fight.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 28, 2011, 08:45:58 pm
I myself believed strategus-related stuff people said.
BRD lying to our faces in OUR GODDAMN TS taught me not to . Go figure about UIF.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Siiem on July 28, 2011, 08:49:19 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpkCWs2zSNY&feature=player_detailpage#t=20s

Let's all be friends.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 08:55:06 pm
I myself believed strategus-related stuff people said.
BRD lying to our faces taught me not to . Go figure about UIF.

Mercs making up lies about others is what bugged me. I went over it with Noc and Ginger and explained the situation... you guys know the truth but either refuse to believe it or just like lying blatantly.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Siiem on July 28, 2011, 08:56:07 pm
Mercs making up lies about others is what bugged me. I went over it with Noc and Ginger and explained the situation... you guys know the truth but either refuse to believe it or just like lying blatantly.

I know both of them, and neither are what you just described. Which only makes me come to one conclusion... you're a douchebag.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 28, 2011, 09:22:09 pm
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 28, 2011, 09:27:41 pm
I myself believed strategus-related stuff people said.
BRD lying to our faces in OUR GODDAMN TS taught me not to . Go figure about UIF.

why has god damned your TS?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 28, 2011, 09:29:17 pm
Because we dumped our old london TS server and now he is mad.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 28, 2011, 09:31:57 pm
makes sense
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 28, 2011, 09:35:10 pm
Always.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 28, 2011, 09:38:55 pm
Shik, the way BRD expressed themselves. saying they had no interest in our lands.. and were expanding the other direction. They gave us a sign of peace.

And then.. the backstab came.

Are you aware of how the French took Gascony from King Edward I during his reign without shedding any blood (until the war after of course)? I suggest you read up on it. And not wikipedia. An actual book would be more appropriate.

There are countless other examples throughout history of how territory was gained through trickery. It's a part of diplomacy. There is no reason to think that it would be any different here.

It wasn't a back stab. It was clever. Yes it's a bitch. But they outsmarted you and out manoeuvred you, as did the others. Deal with it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 28, 2011, 09:44:36 pm
Yeah, and it gives them the right to curse.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 28, 2011, 10:05:48 pm
Yeah, and it gives them the right to curse.

Curse like Noct' and a few other Mercs are doing and swear vengeance? Sure...
Whine like some of the other members are doing and then going off on tangents of timezones and such like only they have to deal with it and not their opponents too? Not so much...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: _JoG_ on July 28, 2011, 10:36:44 pm
Only a third of NA is out for your blood, so shut up already of NA VS Mercs... If the Mercs really think that they are against the entire NA Community then holy shit did you just earn a lot of enemies...
I guess it's actually much less than a third of the NA community. I believe all the clans that attacked Mercs together have less people than, say, ATS, Hospitallers, or TS alone.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Joseph on July 28, 2011, 10:48:38 pm
QQ
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 28, 2011, 10:53:13 pm
Get off your high horse you stuck up bastard
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Thomek on July 28, 2011, 10:54:40 pm
fucking hell, i got important work early in the morning and can't see these battles or participate. (Someone record them please)

If mercs are not too financially nerfed I'd say they have a good chance. They still have good players, perhaps not as leet as before, but I'm sure the old timers will show up and fight, so we'll see. Lot's of good players will sign up for their roster, while the attackers are handicapped by relatively novice clanmembers.
HRE are good players, but too 2h focused as far as I am aware, other clans fight on EU turf which might be a huge disadvantage.
Individual skill, combined with the most experienced commander (Phaz) is a dangerous mix.

If mercs have not fucked up their monetary situation, I think they will win all, if not most of these matches.
One very important factor is the amount of random spectators that will show up. If the servers get too overloaded, this will produce LAG and randomize individual skill, favouring superior numbers.

It is very important that at least 1 or even 2 admins constantly kicks TEMP BANS spectators, also to ensure that there are no ghosting going on.

Afaik, there will be a live feed set up, so no need to spectate this.

That was my analysis. I think the mercs will kick ass, and the situation after this battle, even if the mercs win or loose, is a huge number of weakened clans around calradia. I hope the sharks are ready to bite into this soft area..

 :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 28, 2011, 10:57:16 pm
Who cares about the outcome of this? xD

The entertainment created today was epic enough - Just lovely.
SERIOUS BUSINESS IS SERIOUS.

Have to admit that the thread is loosing a little bit of drive though... :-(
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 10:58:21 pm
there was a live stream but the spectators stayed anyway, sucked having to fight on the NA server, but regardless, was a fun battle... :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 28, 2011, 11:00:38 pm
Yea, after  a while I got kinda used to it, still sucked bad  8-)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Nemeth on July 28, 2011, 11:02:44 pm
Livestream went black after 20 minutes, just so you know.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 28, 2011, 11:03:11 pm
- Army size: 2572 vs 1820
- Battle result: 1139 vs 0

Arm, we played on NA lag. like wtf?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 28, 2011, 11:04:58 pm
Livestream went black after 20 minutes, just so you know.

ahh, that's unfortunate, it was recorded as far as i know...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tuonela on July 28, 2011, 11:05:37 pm
- Army size: 2572 vs 1820
- Battle result: 1139 vs 0

Arm, we played on NA lag. like wtf?
Our main tactic:
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Vibe on July 28, 2011, 11:06:30 pm
Whatever the outcome, this right here is some good drama :)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 28, 2011, 11:08:04 pm
I know both of them, and neither are what you just described. Which only makes me come to one conclusion... you're a douchebag.
Just to clarify, I wasnt refering to Noc or Ginger specifically, but the Mercs who are spouting the nonsense about betrayal and lies and so on. I quite liked chatting with Noc and Ginger.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Spleen on July 28, 2011, 11:20:51 pm
People with a scat fetish will LOVE this thread.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 28, 2011, 11:25:45 pm
This is still going on?

 :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 28, 2011, 11:35:59 pm
Nice fight, looking forward to the next 5.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Ujin on July 29, 2011, 12:16:38 am
I've just heard an eyewitness story about a battle that has just happened and i gotta be honest, i disapprove  the FCC tactics.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Nemeth on July 29, 2011, 12:19:17 am
I don't understand how FCC can complain about Merc tactic and then do this. Hypocrisy much?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 29, 2011, 12:19:29 am
well, this wouldn't be the first time that this is happened in one of our battles...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 29, 2011, 12:20:35 am
Why grief? That is so lame, waste of time and waste of battle slot
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 29, 2011, 12:21:21 am
umm the battle did what it needed to do the second i initiated it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 12:26:09 am
wat hapend
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 12:29:51 am
they locked us 1 day down, thats what it was about, lets talk clearly matey  :P  8-)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Phazey on July 29, 2011, 12:30:09 am
This is the third time BRD shows up with a few naked guys to grief us and waste our time yet again.  :|
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Elerion on July 29, 2011, 12:32:02 am
Attacking large armies with small armies to keep them from reinforcing important battles is now called griefing?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 12:33:21 am
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Post by: Fluffy_Muffin on July 29, 2011, 12:33:38 am
Why didnt you at least try to fight, try to waste some of the tickets, spawning once and then leaving, just a complete waste of peoples time
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 12:37:03 am
Attacking large armies with small armies to keep them from reinforcing important battles is now called griefing?

No, but attacking and not fighting, yes. You guys (BRD) gonna waste these troops anyway, why not fight and have fun?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Matey on July 29, 2011, 12:38:19 am
I had fun  :cry:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: kinngrimm on July 29, 2011, 12:43:11 am
you know Mattey, BRD & Co complaining about merc tactics is all good and fine, but at least they use tactics, this is in my eyes abusing the system. I was now three times in battles of yours where just naked dudes like 3-5 spawned against a full rooster of the other site at times where it hurts or starts to hurt. No gentlemen on your site mate.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Beauchamp on July 29, 2011, 12:45:44 am
strategus is fun only sometimes, ususally the battles are just crap and one doesn't even have to spawn naked for that. organized multiclan battles, tournaments or clanwars are way more fun imo. at least at the current stage of strategus.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 02:43:24 am
- Army size: 2000 vs 1245
- Battle result: 171 vs 0  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Baggy on July 29, 2011, 02:54:52 am
- Army size: 2000 vs 1245
- Battle result: 171 vs 0  :lol:
GG Mercs was a enjoyable battle to watch.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 29, 2011, 03:10:50 am
- Army size: 2000 vs 1245
- Battle result: 171 vs 0  :lol:

So you still lost. 

You're right that is funny. :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 03:53:09 am
So you still lost. 

You're right that is funny. :lol:

They lost even though the enemy had 800 more tickets? Yeah, hilarious. Oh wai--
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Buschtrommel on July 29, 2011, 04:07:52 am
 :shock:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 04:24:22 am
So you still lost. 

You're right that is funny. :lol:

 :|

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 04:31:25 am
Toshdar (I don't even know who the fuck am I anymore)
- Battle time: 29.07., 03:00
- Battle duration: 24m56s
- Army size: 998 vs 517
- Battle result: 0 vs 105
- Winner: Defender
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 04:35:46 am
So you still lost. 

You're right that is funny. :lol:

2000 armed men vs 1200 naked unarmed man
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 04:42:43 am
Ushkuru
- Battle time: 29.07., 03:00
- Battle duration: 24m56s
- Army size: 998 vs 517
- Battle result: 0 vs 105
- Winner: Defender

Also note.. they were using Surcoat over mail... had plenty of good weapons. Agaisnt our studded coats... with no arrows or bolts =D
BRD´s and there lapdogs armies getting slaughtered. Looking forward to the next few days to come :P

HRE has almost nothing left.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Dehitay on July 29, 2011, 06:16:47 am
Also note.. they were using Surcoat over mail... had plenty of good weapons. Agaisnt our studded coats... with no arrows or bolts =D
BRD´s and there lapdogs armies getting slaughtered. Looking forward to the next few days to come :P

HRE has almost nothing left.

Actually, the majority of our weapons sucked, but I'll admit we had good armor and did a horrible job.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: a_bear_irl on July 29, 2011, 07:10:34 am
every merc victory has been the result of their abuse of the way strat battles work, if i were defending against them IRL i'd have just went back inside my fucking house because all they do is camp and wait for the defenders to get bored enough to rush them.

tbh at least at the battle today (merc v blackrose) if i were an admin i would have declared the mercs attack to be stalled or some shit because all they do is sit at their spawn and volley arrows
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 07:39:29 am
Snickers_BRD vs Ushkuru - Hide Details
- Battle time: 29.07., 05:00
- Battle duration: 36m47s
- Army size: 1702 vs 1051
- Battle result: 0 vs 181
- Winner: Defender

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 29, 2011, 07:41:47 am
we're not defeated, thanks for the battles, i'm off to bed... :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: HarunYahya on July 29, 2011, 07:43:22 am
I have a major headache but it totally worth it !
Epic resistance,congrats mercs !
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Post by: Greziz on July 29, 2011, 07:43:27 am
Grats on that fight in ushkuru wish I had made it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Earthdforce on July 29, 2011, 07:45:18 am
Fun fight yall, we should do some more.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 07:46:02 am
Snickers_BRD vs Ushkuru - Hide Details
- Battle time: 29.07., 05:00
- Battle duration: 36m47s
- Army size: 1702 vs 1051
- Battle result: 0 vs 181
- Winner: Defender


Nice fight, it was fun.  We couldn't have held it anyways with 2000 men to attack nearby plus 1500 man RuConquista army nearby, but we bled about 300K worth of equipment (all haubergeons, well over a 100 warhorses, arbalests, etc.)  Got mostly what we wanted, unless you get another 1000 troops adn 200,000 gold from "friends" to the west you are very short on gold.  Either way had a whole lot of fun and most of the people I played with too.  Good fight.

I'm glad we won 2 out of 4 (of course those were the two with at least some people with EU pings).
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Corwin on July 29, 2011, 07:48:24 am
Nocti, what the hell do you mean by battle duration 36 min? That battle lasted over 2 and a half hours.

Anyway, second fight against HRE was truly EPIC. Mercs didn't have enough money to equip this army (except to provide plenty of arrows :) ), so we were naked, and with only couple of dozen of peaces of melee weapon in total at the very beginning. And we cost them 1000 tickets! And the funniest moment was when they timidly decided to camp as well, instead to attack naked and unarmed people! Really guys, do some diplomacy, try to get some strong allies, find some other way to play this game, cause sneaking and backstabbing just isn't enough (apparently). 
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 07:49:30 am
Nice fight, it was fun.  We couldn't have held it anyways with 2000 men to attack nearby plus 1500 man RuConquista army nearby, but we bled about 300K worth of equipment (all haubergeons, well over a 100 warhorses, arbalests, etc.)  Got mostly what we wanted, unless you get another 1000 troops adn 200,000 gold from "friends" to the west you are very short on gold.  Either way had a whole lot of fun and most of the people I played with too.  Good fight.

I'm glad we won 2 out of 4 (of course those were the two with at least some people with EU pings).

You mean 2 out of 5. And basicly those 2 we lost on paper... well hehe look at the stratistics, your lapdog HRE got pwnd
And you blame ping now? lol remember, you attack us. you play with crappy pings
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: kinngrimm on July 29, 2011, 07:49:36 am
Snickers_BRD vs Ushkuru - Hide Details
- Battle time: 29.07., 05:00
- Battle duration: 36m47s
- Army size: 1702 vs 1051
- Battle result: 0 vs 181
- Winner: Defender

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i just love the wolve :) as he took the last kill rrrrooooooooaaaaaarrr

for now the sounds of battle have calmed, but soon there will be more to bite in my teeth
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cicero on July 29, 2011, 08:05:02 am
Nice battles , next time dont backstab with practice daggers
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:06:10 am
Nice battles , next time dont backstab with practice daggers

AHha nice one lol.

But in truth,.. they still havent learned

Horde of KHAN    Tosdhar [Mercenaries]    Sat, 05:00    7298

Very very sportive again
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 08:07:47 am
Battle wasn't 36 min I think system is skipping the hours it should be 2 Hours and 36 min

Sat, 05:00    7298, thats not gonna be a problem at all. But I don't wanan have a day like this again.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 29, 2011, 08:15:05 am
but we bled about 300K worth of equipment (all haubergeons, well over a 100 warhorses, arbalests, etc.) 

I presume you're talking about our equipment (since i didn't see any Haubergeons on your troops) so I'll have to correct you: there wasn't all Haubergeons, just 550 of them & 350 Padded Armors. Also there was no more then 40 Warhorses & 25 Arbalests. I should know, since I've put 'em there. That's just for the last battle, in those before we had none (or very few) such equipment.



unless you get another 1000 troops adn 200,000 gold from "friends" to the west you are very short on gold. 

Don't you worry about it, It's already here, all that and even more.  :wink:

P.S. can you please send some more archers next time ? Those you've sent today were a joke.  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 08:42:34 am
Fuck. 3 minutes before the second battle electricity died in my whole village, a hour later it came back and then I was gettig limited connecitivy on my wireless...  :(
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 29, 2011, 08:44:45 am
Fuck. 3 minutes before the second battle electricity died in my whole village, a hour later it came back and then I was gettig limited connecitivy on my wireless...  :(

No worries, it's not your fault that you're a peasant in real life.  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 08:48:45 am
No worries, it's not your fault that you're a peasant in real life.  :wink:

Nah, I moved into the village from the city 3 years ago I dont know shit about farming  :lol:
Its just the internet here is full of fail.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 29, 2011, 08:58:44 am
Nice fight, it was fun.  We couldn't have held it anyways with 2000 men to attack nearby plus 1500 man RuConquista army nearby, but we bled about 300K worth of equipment (all haubergeons, well over a 100 warhorses, arbalests, etc.)  Got mostly what we wanted, unless you get another 1000 troops adn 200,000 gold from "friends" to the west you are very short on gold.  Either way had a whole lot of fun and most of the people I played with too.  Good fight.

I'm glad we won 2 out of 4 (of course those were the two with at least some people with EU pings).

Lies again, we never had 200k of gold and we were transferring troops and gold to the west and then back to us  :rolleyes: If you have informators you'd better change them because they suck.

You can find a million of excuses and you can't just admit your faults. Why do you have such nice guys like Matey and such ugly creatures like you? :(

PS. Today's battle scoreboards. It's the battle where you and sWalker were trying to stumble at my ranged skills and trolled me. I've wasted only 2 crossbows and stopped shooting only because we ran out of bolts.
Your servers, your decent gear, your prime time and my hate of ranters like you Kesh.

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 29, 2011, 09:04:08 am
Lies again, we never had 200k of gold and we were transferring troops and gold to the west and then back to us  :rolleyes: If you have informators you'd better change them because they suck.

You can find a million of excuses and you can't just admit your faults. Why do you have such nice guys like Matey and such ugly creatures like you? :(

PS. Today's battle scoreboards. It's the battle where you and sWalker were trying to stumble at my ranged skills and trolled me. I've wasted only 2 crossbows and stopped shooting only because we ran out of bolts.
Your servers, your decent gear, your prime time and my hate of ranters like you Kesh.

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You mad bro?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 09:08:51 am
You mad bro?

I bet youre one of those natives saying c-rpg sucks and is for only X people and then in the end you are playing it..
You arent the first.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: sWalker on July 29, 2011, 09:09:46 am
Careful Dave, while you might want to bring flame to Kesh...I do not believe you want to include me.  If you wish to point out your hiding and crutching skill with your arbalest then by all means do(jumping xbow 1 shots into spawn while hiding behind a brick wall)...but do not sulley the name of sWalker...I outplayed all of your archers in that battle, and you had us out ranged 2.5-1.  So even on your ping later tonight I asked for an honor duel with your best ranged in a fight you knew you had won...yet no one stepped forward.  I am an honorable opponent and note the honor of my opponents every time they show it (ask the wolves leader)...so, careful king of the OP crutches...careful before you call out a fighter to every one of the battles you fight in strat. from this day forward.  If you redact the mention of my name, then my post will be moot.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 09:12:42 am
Careful Dave, while you might want to bring flame to Kesh...I do not believe you want to include me.  If you wish to point out your hiding and crutching skill with your arbalest then by all means do...but do not sulley the name of sWalker...I outplayed all of your archers in that battle, and you had us out ranged 2.5-1.  So even on your ping later tonight I asked for an honor duel with your best ranged in a fight you knew you had won...yet no one stepped forward.  I am an honorable opponent and note the honor of my opponents every time they show it (ask the wolves leader)...so, careful king of the OP crutches...careful before you call out a fighter to every one of the battles you fight in strat. from this day forward.  If you redact the mention of my name, then my post will be moot.

If youd want an even duel you would both need to have the same ping, you simply cant forget the ping, strategus is not being about honorable but being efficent and having a good K/D, infact having less deaths is more important than kills i'm pretty sure you know that. No one gives a damn about your 1v1 archer skills, atleast not in strategus.
* On our ping I think you could duel Noc/Jambi, but not in a middle of a strat battle  :| Maybe in duel server?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: DaveUKR on July 29, 2011, 09:32:45 am
Careful Dave, while you might want to bring flame to Kesh...I do not believe you want to include me.  If you wish to point out your hiding and crutching skill with your arbalest then by all means do(jumping xbow 1 shots into spawn while hiding behind a brick wall)...but do not sulley the name of sWalker...I outplayed all of your archers in that battle, and you had us out ranged 2.5-1.  So even on your ping later tonight I asked for an honor duel with your best ranged in a fight you knew you had won...yet no one stepped forward.  I am an honorable opponent and note the honor of my opponents every time they show it (ask the wolves leader)...so, careful king of the OP crutches...careful before you call out a fighter to every one of the battles you fight in strat. from this day forward.  If you redact the mention of my name, then my post will be moot.

sWalker, i have nothing against you but you were a bit hostile and I didn't like it because I hate this crap in game chat. The battlefield is the place where your weapons talk, not your mouth. And btw it was impossible to 1shot with regular arbalest and regular bolts, i dealt 70-90% almost every time (except cases when somebody was running towards me on very close range). I apologize if i've said something insulting to you and I hope you will respect Mercenaries in future like we do our opponents (not those backstabbers though, but some of nice players who are fighting against us)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Kalp on July 29, 2011, 09:38:55 am
Sorry, I went sleep something about 2 am, can someone write the results of all Merc battles ? Thanks.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:41:14 am
No offense to anyone but I do not see how this immature bickering benefits either side. Strategus is still only in Beta so again, I see little gain in taking it to the fullest, most serious extent.

Please lock this childish drama, moderators.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Darkkarma on July 29, 2011, 09:48:43 am
No offense to anyone but I do not see how this immature bickering benefits either side. Strategus is still only in Beta so again, I see little gain in taking it to the fullest, most serious extent.

Please lock this childish drama, moderators.

I think the fact that you're already getting negative voted into oblivion already speaks volumes about the direction this thread is going in.


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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 29, 2011, 09:49:37 am
For those of you who don't know: on TS Dave sounds like the Russian cosmonaut Lev Andropov (Armageddon)...and in the movie he saved the world. Probably a coincidence. :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:59:46 am
I think the fact that you're already getting negative voted into oblivion already speaks volumes about the direction this thread is going in.

I guess people like arguing.  :lol:

And Mtemtko is a 16-year-old Slovakian village idiot, he wouldn't be able to see reason if it was an atomic explosion in outer space. Also two - votes from randoms I would hardly call "negative voted into oblivion" but I'm glad I'm not the only one ashamed of being part of this thread.  I should have just ignored it and saved myself the trouble of head trauma by repeated face palm.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: sWalker on July 29, 2011, 10:04:34 am
I agree darkkarma...he is the best XBOW I have seen in cRPG(minus With_Stupid, if you forgive his running and hiding).  All I asked is that he left my good name out of the flame.  I give congrats. to all my opponents, not only for wins but also for the way they fight in losing efforts.  Everyone that has played with me for a day knows I would never be negative or dishonorable.  Since he took me out of it, I'm good...and the MERC's and their allies did fight very well in the last battle of the night.  Would have said that to begin with if I didn't see my name with fire glowing around it.  Thanks again for removing it...we have no beef then...I look forward to meeting skilled warriors on the battlefield again soon.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 10:07:44 am
I agree darkkarma...he is the best XBOW I have seen in cRPG(minus With_Stupid, if you forgive his running and hiding).  All I asked is that he left my good name out of the flame.  I give congrats. to all my opponents, not only for wins but also for the way they fight in losing efforts.  Everyone that has played with me for a day knows I would never be negative or dishonorable.  Since he took me out of it, I'm good...and the MERC's and their allies did fight very well in the last battle of the night.  Would have said that to begin with if I didn't see my name with fire glowing around it.  Thanks again for removing it...we have no beef then...I look forward to meeting skilled warriors on the battlefield again soon.

You're ranged and you have the nerve to refer to yourself as a warrior?

I shall mount a horse and call myself hero.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 10:08:45 am
I guess people like arguing.  :lol:

And Mtemtko is a 16-year-old Slovakian village idiot, he wouldn't be able to see reason if it was an atomic explosion in outer space. Also two - votes from randoms I would hardly call "negative voted into oblivion" but I'm glad I'm not the only one ashamed of being part of this thread.  I should have just ignored it and saved myself the trouble of head trauma by repeated face palm.

Eh? Why would I neg vote you? Like I give a damn if this thread is up or down. I wish that brainwashing done by that shrink of yours removed a small bit of your arrgoance too.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 10:11:05 am
You mad bro?

Mad about you

Well, I'm used to whiners after every battle. I think none of you should reply to it (not just Mercs, FCC too). When the world is collapsing on you I believe you'd use any tactics too as long as its not cheating. Our strategy was simply "patience" Btw we are not an alliance, we are just good neighbours and friends (example : Gnjus, ginger and I are some of the first members of Mercs) STR is my old neighbour from the old strat. Never seen them plotting against us. In fact these commies are far more trustworthy than any other nation I've ever seen and we value honesty.
For me the battle was fun until 3AM then it started to turn into a burden. I didn't play because I enjoyed it I've played because I had to. My scoreboard pretty much proves that. I even thought of watching a movie in the second screen while playing.
Most importantly many of us had to go to work, I had an interview at 9AM and battle was over at 7.30, I was about to throw up because of mad graphics. Well my interview also went well and I feel like Charlie Sheen now.

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Heroes of the battle (Merc side)

Blueberry Muffin
DaveUKR
DimaUrban
Cicero

I'm sure there are heroes in FCC and HRE side too, so you name them.

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 10:15:08 am
Eh? Why would I neg vote you? Like I give a damn if this thread is up or down. I wish that brainwashing done by that shrink of yours removed a small bit of your arrgoance too.

Nice move, changing your vote!  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 10:18:37 am
Nice move, changing your vote!  :lol:

Damn it   :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: NuberT on July 29, 2011, 11:07:01 am
Nice fighting guys! Btw trying to take down all those flags is a bad idea  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 11:58:10 am
nice to see you did better on the field :)

gratz, sad i couldn't make it :(
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Phazey on July 29, 2011, 12:03:13 pm
Nice fighting guys! Btw trying to take down all those flags is a bad idea  :mrgreen:

QFT

You guys put up a worthy fight. Now be nice lads. chadz said he will deal with the roster griefing, so i ain't angry anymore...  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Camaris on July 29, 2011, 12:07:11 pm
Some things to say:

1. First battle was really cool. Sure we lost more tickets but probably most of attackers will need more tickets then defenders in future.
2. Second battle was silly. We tried to capture all spawns and probably this cant work if there are enough defenders regardless if they wear armor or not.
I was very tired after this one and feel sorry to everybody who had to fight even longer ;)
3. In the first time since i play Strategus im Lord of a village ;)
4. So besides timeslots were really late i enjoyed battles ;)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 29, 2011, 12:10:08 pm
I bet youre one of those natives saying c-rpg sucks and is for only X people and then in the end you are playing it..
You arent the first.

I played crpg since before upkeep, retirement, before strategus was even suggested. Back when servers were being reset multiple times a day and I had to fight constantly with 200+ ping.

You know nothing about me, and your ignorance just makes you seem like what most people view you as already, a pretentious arrogant cunt.

When the world is collapsing on you I believe you'd use any tactics too as long as its not cheating.

You mean cheating like dropping and picking up an arbalest to reload it? Something I saw at least 2 of your people doing? I really have nothing against you Nocti, and I mean this as inoffensively as possible, but it seems (from my limited vantage point) that you have minimal idea of what your own people are doing. Sure professing to be playing to prove skill, not exploiting, etc is all great. But to say so when Mercs have exploited in a good number of strategus battles is just daft.
Think that's all I have to say. Good day mercs.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 12:16:49 pm
I played crpg since before upkeep, retirement, before strategus was even suggested. Back when servers were being reset multiple times a day and I had to fight constantly with 200+ ping.

You know nothing about me, and your ignorance just makes you seem like what most people view you as already, a pretentious arrogant cunt. Think that's all I have to say. Good day mercs.

Yes, its true that I dont know anything about you because since july of 2010 when I started playing crpg I havent seen you once on nor tw crpg forums/new crpg forums or ingame in either new NA servers or EU servers. So I presumed you are a troll from TW forums, and it wouldnt be the first time.
You can call me a "prenetious arrogant cunt", truth be told I only wrote what I wrote before because you gave me the exact same impression about you.
*I know you in another community and you seem like a nice person there, I dont see why you are being such a cunt to mercs now you talk about like you know all the truth behind everything , getting the feeling you are siding with BRD because you are NA, thats normal.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Voso on July 29, 2011, 01:00:30 pm
Yes, its true that I dont know anything about you because since july of 2010 when I started playing crpg I havent seen you once on nor tw crpg forums/new crpg forums or ingame in either new NA servers or EU servers. So I presumed you are a troll from TW forums, and it wouldnt be the first time.
You can call me a "prenetious arrogant cunt", truth be told I only wrote what I wrote before because you gave me the exact same impression about you.
*I know you in another community and you seem like a nice person there, I dont see why you are being such a cunt to mercs now you talk about like you know all the truth behind everything , getting the feeling you are siding with BRD because you are NA, thats normal.

In Anwyl's defense, Mercenaries so far have been nothing but disrespectful and rude to us. As much as we try to keep our heads above the constant taunts and trolling, it tends to get to you after awhile.

I am sure this is your fellow member's intentions though Mtemtko, and as much as we would like to stay civil and kind it gets increasingly difficult as we are getting fed up with this forum drama.

The reason we are standing with BRD isn't because they are NA, but because they have been good friends and allies to us. We have nothing against EU clans just because we are NA, though it does seem the bonding is a bit more forced as we don't often get to play on the servers with eachother.

Granted, if we were EU judging from the conduct of your fellow member's on this forum and within the Strategus battles we have fought against them we would stand with BRD  anyways. Sadly, it is difficult to see how they would treat us if we were not against them.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 29, 2011, 01:08:20 pm
Yes, its true that I dont know anything about you because since july of 2010 when I started playing crpg I havent seen you once on nor tw crpg forums/new crpg forums or ingame in either new NA servers or EU servers. So I presumed you are a troll from TW forums, and it wouldnt be the first time.
You can call me a "prenetious arrogant cunt", truth be told I only wrote what I wrote before because you gave me the exact same impression about you.
*I know you in another community and you seem like a nice person there, I dont see why you are being such a cunt to mercs now you talk about like you know all the truth behind everything , getting the feeling you are siding with BRD because you are NA, thats normal.

But Mtemtko, you are arrogant. You proofed it today ingame, when i only asked a normal question ( remember your answers? look at strategus - check out the battle stats - asking silly questions [ short form of ya answers] ). Such a behaviour doesnt  bring you friends. At least i think you dont need them anymore, cause we know you have won...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 01:10:13 pm
In Anwyl's defense, Mercenaries so far have been nothing but disrespectful and rude to us. As much as we try to keep our heads above the constant taunts and trolling, it tends to get to you after awhile.

I am sure this is your fellow member's intentions though Mtemtko, and as much as we would like to stay civil and kind it gets increasingly difficult as we are getting fed up with this forum drama.

The reason we are standing with BRD isn't because they are NA, but because they have been good friends and allies to us. We have nothing against EU clans just because we are NA, though it does seem the bonding is a bit more forced as we don't often get to play on the servers with eachother.

Granted, if we were EU judging from the conduct of your fellow member's on this forum and within the Strategus battles we have fought against them we would stand with BRD  anyways. Sadly, it is difficult to see how they would treat us if we were not against them.
Afaik you attacked us first without a warning, and then in most of your battles you were naked and got your spawn capped, getting away with it with almost all tickets.
You should have expected flaming from mercs, how would you feel when some random X faction gangs on you in middle of a war only to stall your armies with naked players?
And yeah, mercs are becoming notorious from their forum drama, and we had ego/arrogance since old strategus, I give you that.
You brought all the trolling and flaming on yourself, imo you could have just kept supplying BRD and no one would ever know, dont toss all the blame on us.

But Mtemtko, you are arrogant. You proofed it today ingame, when i only asked a normal question ( remember your answers? look at strategus - check out the battle stats - asking silly questions [ short form of ya answers] ). Such a behaviour doesnt  bring you friends. At least i think you dont need them anymore, cause we know you have won...

Arrogant? Sorry, I was just pissed off big time because I couldnt participate in the battles because of my internet died, how would you feel after letting down your clan when it has its biggest battles?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Beauchamp on July 29, 2011, 01:11:39 pm
hmm apparently mercs haven't changed that much :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Dezilagel on July 29, 2011, 01:12:19 pm
hmm apparently mercs haven't changed that much :D

/thread

 :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 01:15:54 pm
Hmm, no I dont have any anger against NA, or any of their clans, whatever.
I just dislike those that came and backstabbed us ( you know who you are, no need to mention names  :wink: )
Like little vultures  :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Voso on July 29, 2011, 01:21:04 pm
Afaik you attacked us first without a warning, and then in most of your battles you were naked and got your spawn capped, getting away with it with almost all tickets.
You should have expected flaming from mercs, how would you feel when some random X faction gangs on you in middle of a war only to stall your armies with naked players?
And yeah, mercs are becoming notorious from their forum drama, and we had ego/arrogance since old strategus, I give you that.
You brought all the trolling and flaming on yourself, imo you could have just kept supplying BRD and no one would ever know, dont toss all the blame on us.


Ahh, this is a misconception. Let me clear things up for you as you seem to have been misinformed. First off, we may have attacked you first but just because we are battling someone in Strategus we didn't expect to be flamed and trolled by them.

Second off, we had ONE battle where we spawned naked and were spawn capped. Only ONE, after which we apologized to the Mercenaries and Noctivigant seemed to be happy, he even told Mercenaries to stop posting in our thread.


You guys make it seem like this is our trademark, like we have done it multiple times and like it is all we do and this is not the case at all.

Perhaps it is because that was our only battle against the Mercenaries? Of course most of our battles against the mercenaries would be like that if it was our only battle.

The only other time we have attacked someone is when we attacked the Wolves for Ayyike.

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 01:25:21 pm

Ahh, this is a misconception. Let me clear things up for you as you seem to have been misinformed. First off, we may have attacked you first but just because we are battling someone in Strategus we didn't expect to be flamed and trolled by them.

Second off, we had ONE battle where we spawned naked and were spawn capped. Only ONE, after which we apologized to the Mercenaries and Noctivigant seemed to be happy, he even told Mercenaries to stop posting in our thread.


You guys make it seem like this is our trademark, like we have done it multiple times and like it is all we do and this is not the case at all.

Perhaps it is because that was our only battle against the Mercenaries? Of course most of our battles against the mercenaries would be like that if it was our only battle.

The only other time we have attacked someone is when we attacked the Wolves for Ayyike.

Well I was in that battle, and it was quite MIGHTY annoying to get 60 players to join our fight to stumble upon naked men, then I heard about another naked fight this night, but I still dont know what faction did that (as said, couldnt join because of the internet), so sorry for saying you did it multiple times, but one time is more than enough for most Mercs.

@Loki: as far i knowyeah the founders were olwen,oberyn and gnjus, first two are french.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 29, 2011, 01:27:17 pm
I saw the first battle against HRE, Mercs showed good tactic and good battle move, they were well disciplined, and used perfectly the terrain to their advantage, attackers spawn was so far away that it was impossible to keep a constant front line, and Mercs pushed back every charging waves.

For a long time, HRE was trapped at the bottom of the hill, they couldn't do anything except lose tickets, only things attackers did for long time was flanking with fallen archer squad.
I guess HRE was not that bad because it was realy hard to do anything in this village, with another faction than Mercs they could have win easily, but Mercs gave them real hard time.

HRE tried a flank attack, Mercs jumped on occasion to attack their spawn, it was almost done, HRE got some luck and take back their spawn.

A good battle from both sides, HRE lost a ton of tickets and Mercs keeped their honor on battle field.

You can always flame/drama Mercs on forum because they are arrogant but on the battlefield they make the difference.

edit :
Afaik you attacked us first without a warning

Sure they should warned you... c'mon, they showed you that they are smarter that's all...

Mercs are still fuckin' awesome on battlefield, but they lack of tactic on the strat map, i'm sure it's because French founders are no longer part of the clan (chauvinism!)



Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Voso on July 29, 2011, 01:35:19 pm
Aye, I realize that it was annoying which is why we apologized. We also didn't realize the time would end up being so bad for you guys which only made things worse.


You'd think of all people though it would be the Wolves that would be mad at us, seeing as we took their village and all. But no, the Wolves have been kind and sportsmanlike we enjoyed a battle and exchanged compliments and it was done with.

The Mercenaries on the other hand had one much smaller scale battle and rage on our clan thread, we apologize and all seems well. Four days later, they are angry again and give us a shout out in a thread who's only purpose seems to be to slander other clans. In Noctivigant's post it even insinuates that we used this tactic more than once:

then Kingdom of Veluca was locking our troops and not showing up in the battle to delay us from reinforcing our army, they were well aware that they had no chance against us.


I mean I agree with Gheritarish, the Mercs are well-disciplined fighters and I have respect for you lot for that.. I just wish you were all more civil I mean if being sportsmanlike is too much to ask at least just don't slander people and spam their threads with stupid taunts.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cyber on July 29, 2011, 01:43:06 pm
HRE tried a flank attack, Mercs jumbed on occasion to attack their spawn, it was almost done, HRE got some luck and take back their spawn.

This was actually intended, we wanted to lure mercs out of their village by making them think we are going for a far flanking attack. Can't comment on the other battles but imo HRE did a decent job, at first battle merc had the advantage when defending a village, second time HRE actually overwhelmed merc at their spawn more then once but i guess multiple spawn points made it almost impossibole to capture all of them when there is a decent amount of defenders. Mercs did ofc put up a really good fight.

Also mercs, even if someone backstabbed you in the most horrific way. (not saying that it happened :P) so what?  Diplomacy is a important part of the game, you may call people scum and retards all they want but the fact is that their actions made them end up in a more favourable position agains't you, so well played by them.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Shpongled on July 29, 2011, 02:09:14 pm
Treacherous scum. You shall have your comeuppance. I find it quite funny that you equate opportunism with 'good strategy'. If I smack someone from behind with a two-by-four 10 seconds after I've shaken his hand, I wouldn't go bragging that it was my 'good strategy' that laid him out. Thing is, we're not some guy you can lay out in 1 hit and expect to be safe.

What goes around comes around, and you have shown your true colours. You fooled us once. It will not happen again, make no mistake.

You talk of 'honor' and 'sportsmanship'? Treachery is a bitter pill to swallow, and your folly shall be returned on you tenfold. I'd be interested to see if this talk continues when you get backstabbed - and have no doubt that you will, treachery only breeds more of the same.


...........and of course this war starts when my family has just got into the country and I'm in the booneys flitting from laptop to laptop and I CANT PLAY GRRRRRRRRRRRR



Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Varyag on July 29, 2011, 02:10:22 pm
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Also mercs, even if someone backstabbed you in the most horrific way. (not saying that it happened :P) so what?

Didn't expect that from ex-Merc with whom I fought side by side in numerous battles.
Yep, the time has come to show your true faces.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Ryqiem on July 29, 2011, 02:14:07 pm
In Noctivigant's post it even insinuates that we used this tactic more than once:
I'm sorry, but I can't see how that insinuates everything?

And please don't talk about sportsmanship when you attack in the middle of the night. (I know, NA and all, please split strat.)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 02:20:13 pm
Didn't expect that from ex-Merc with whom I fought side by side in numerous battles.
Yep, the time has come to show your true faces.

Seriously , its gets old.  Repeating lies over and over again doesn't make them true.  Just because someone attacks you doesn't make them a backstabber.  What do you expect some formal declaration of war, walking troops slowly around in parade while you fortify the village defenses???  I REFER TO BOTTOM OF PAGE 9 FOR WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. 
I do have to say nice propaganda campaign, you actually got a bunch of Drz mercenaries and RuConquista to sign up.  Those guys have always been good fighters without the monstrous egoes, I know at least for Ushkuru RuConquista_DimaUrban went almost 100-12 before leaving near the end and him and shushu quite literally made the difference between winning and losing even with roughly 100 warhorses or more (we started counting about halfway through the ones we killed). 

Great fight, i really enjoyed it even with the 250 ping, thought it kind of an amusing note we only had 1 guy with under 130 ping and I think you guys had only 1 guy over 90 ping.  Looking forward to more fights, especially NA ones, this is the way Strategus is meant to be played - entertaining and fun fights.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 02:25:55 pm
That is your definition of "backstabbing", mine tells me that when a clan leader shows up in your TS and says its all k, we cool with ya guys and then attacks all of a sudden, thats a backstab for me.
You can call it whatever you want, "outplaying" "outsmarting", for me, its a simple backstab.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 02:41:55 pm
Lock this fucking abomination already. Christ...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 02:45:04 pm
Lock this fucking abomination already. Christ...

You don't have to read it, you know.  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 02:46:16 pm
You don't have to read it, you know.  :lol:

He obviously is masochistic.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Beauchamp on July 29, 2011, 02:46:29 pm
i just got an awesome idea for a comics, don't lock this lol thread until i make and post it please  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 02:53:37 pm
You don't have to read it, you know.  :lol:

It's not that I can't refrain from reading, I just feel embarrassed about the whole ordeal.  :lol:

In old Strat people could at least handle adversity. It seems now as soon as there is a conflict, people have to analyze the opponent's methods and criticize them.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gheritarish le Loki on July 29, 2011, 02:55:34 pm
Varyag are you discovering war?
Why an attacker should not take best chance for him to win?
I mean Cyber shows that he was well formed by his Mercs experience, and he knows how a war is dealed.

Beside that he´s a fallen now, it´s well known they have no honor (and proud of it ;)).

@Cyber: fake flank attack worked well, as a spectator i didn´t see it coming!

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 29, 2011, 03:09:03 pm

Arrogant? Sorry, I was just pissed off big time because I couldnt participate in the battles because of my internet died, how would you feel after letting down your clan when it has its biggest battles?

Hmm, maybe you are schizoprenic or you just dont remember what you wrote. Because of your answer, i wrote that it seems you are pissed off. Then you wrote you are NOT pissed of, but my questions.. stupid...    So this is really confusing, but ok, write/answer what you want, i have my point of you now.

Good luck for the future!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 03:17:27 pm
Hmm, maybe you are schizoprenic or you just dont remember what you wrote. Because of your answer, i wrote that it seems you are pissed off. Then you wrote you are NOT pissed of, but my questions.. stupid...    So this is really confusing, but ok, write/answer what you want, i have my point of you now.

Good luck for the future!
I remember what I wrote, yet in reality I was pissed off, good enough for you mastermind?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 03:19:14 pm
Varyag are you discovering war?
Why an attacker should not take best chance for him to win?
I mean Cyber shows that he was well formed by his Mercs experience, and he knows how a war is dealed.

Beside that he´s a fallen now, it´s well known they have no honor (and proud of it ;)).

@Cyber: fake flank attack worked well, as a spectator i didn´t see it coming!

lick deeper ?  :lol:

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 03:36:13 pm
...."This thread is rooollin...they hatin."....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Beauchamp on July 29, 2011, 03:38:02 pm
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cyber on July 29, 2011, 03:39:01 pm
Didn't expect that from ex-Merc with whom I fought side by side in numerous battles.
Yep, the time has come to show your true faces.

What didn't you expect exactly? Like i said before i don't really see fighting agains't my old friends in a game as anything bad, it is not like we are hurting and stabbing each other to death IRL. We are still just really having fun in a game, this time on the different sides.

Also again, imho it dosen't really matter how you achieve something in a game. It might be backstabbing, good diplomacy or whatever, there are really no moral limitations to that like you have IRL. Obviously when you go around screwing everybody over something bad might eventually happen to you and you should take care of your reputation but only rules that you really have to obey are game mechanics. Sure, getting betrayed by someone can feel bad but i don't think you should take it too personally. It dosen't really matter here how you get into a favourable position, what matters is that you have it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 29, 2011, 03:49:39 pm
Lmao in emerin. We had nothing but 100 long spears and 100 hornbows to equip 1000 tickets. We just charged a made a huge pile of enemy weapons in our village that we could draw from. We took 1000 tickets and the enemy actually camped the hill rather than charge a bunch of naked villagers with naked weapons. There was one point where we actualy nearly won. The enemy spawn was took and they got down to about 5-6 men but then they captured their spawn back at the last moment. :( Anyways, lots of good fights, even if i did have to give in on the last battle and go to bed to snatch 2-3 hours sleep before i had to get up. Toshdar was also pretty good, got over 100 kills! woot! But Tshibtin was definitely the most epic. Good use of charging from multiple sides by attackers but we drove them out evey time.  :D But i think we lost about 50 tickets to tks in that battle,  :shock: but anyways, look forwards to the next real battle. Village steamrolls are boring.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: xKhanxBROMS on July 29, 2011, 03:50:46 pm
Well I do have to say mercs, regardless of anything, much respect for ur guys dedication and fighting abilities.  That last battle was brutal.  Good fights.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 04:02:58 pm
It's not that I can't refrain from reading, I just feel embarrassed about the whole ordeal.  :lol:

In old Strat people could at least handle adversity. It seems now as soon as there is a conflict, people have to analyze the opponent's methods and criticize them.

Well, it's mostly some Mercs and Kesh acting like their first born daughter just got raped... I find it amusing, no lock!
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blondin on July 29, 2011, 04:05:00 pm
Nvm
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 04:06:01 pm
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Lol beau win, make more!

PS: Noc doesnt live in turkey
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 04:13:29 pm
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  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I lol´d hard   :lol: :lol:


Just that I dont use this anymore since ages  :lol:

This will keep following me eh  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Beauchamp on July 29, 2011, 04:16:24 pm
well i have 1 more good idea, the problem is its about
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 04:17:28 pm
I  use now  an Elite Spammitar and Dark Red Heavy Norman Shield  :P

Just tellin  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gnjus on July 29, 2011, 04:21:16 pm
I just love it how people keep saying that "the other side was informed better then the Mercs"......well guess what ? "Better" was obviously not good enough......  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Shpongled on July 29, 2011, 04:26:12 pm
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Epic +1
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Ulmarth on July 29, 2011, 04:29:46 pm
Great fights last night guys.

Dnt wanna get into the other topics here.

But id like to congratulat Chase on 108 nakkid peasent kills. We were cheerin him on!!!! Epic.

Missed the last 1 due to me not havin the nerd str to carry on without sleep.

Again good fights to ALL clans involved NA and EU, friend and foe.

Regards Ulmarth, See u on the battlefield
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 04:36:36 pm
Beau just killed it. xD

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 04:40:46 pm
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Fricken pricelss!  Captured the entire essence of the thead in art.  Thank you.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 04:53:17 pm
He put my name into humors dirt  :shock:  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 04:54:56 pm
I am unaware of many of the particulars involved here however...

I find it amusing that many in this thread think suggesting there is a proper way to declare war is some kind of joke.
Cause well, there is a proper way.

If you do not do so then you are, by definition, a backstabber, and not to be trusted. As for gaining a diplomatic agreement to be able to travel through ones lands and then using that as a means to attack someone, this is even worse. Do the HRE actually believe that other factions will afford them this privilege in the future?

---

Of course this is a beta, it is a game, but people have memories. I guess what all you factions do to their own reputations is their business, and the Mercs did some fine work. Cannot really say the same for all those others involved though.

Anyway an entertaining war it seems. Congrats to the mercs I suspect you have done better than many expected.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Franke on July 29, 2011, 04:58:56 pm
I'd like to thank everyone involved in last nights battles. The Mercs showes us what a determined, disciplined and good fighting village defender benefiting from terrain can do.

However, I'm really sad about people raging like mad in this thread. Why do people forget it's only a game? Now, RuConquista are attacking us without any DoW, so are they backstabbing us, too? So what? That's what this game is all about...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 04:59:27 pm
True. Reputation carries over from one version of strat to the next and some of the "clever diplomatic tricks" that the factions involved have used actually cost them far more than they were worth.
Guess this is where factions with a reliable reputation and the unreliables get separated.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 05:00:22 pm
One might imagine that backstabbing someone who breaches a military access agreement is well within moral boundaries. In RL and in Strat.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Camaris on July 29, 2011, 05:03:12 pm
Ah dont talk about RL. This is about dark midage and there is no UN trying to solve the problems.
This game is about fighting and not sitting around until other are doing stuff.

PS: I remember we talked some months ago who will be our kaiser and lead us in strategus *g*
We chose to elect Rogue not vMega cause some people thought he would bring us total war ;)
Rogue is in hospital vMega is making decisions ;) so probably everybody should have known what would happen :p
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 05:08:08 pm
Heh, HRE, the consequences of backstabbing are starting to show themselves faster than you expected?  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 29, 2011, 05:13:30 pm
Nope, we expected that even before we attacked as we saw that army.
Since some people keep their grudges clearly visible by the fillings of the rosters :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 05:13:50 pm
Wow, I had fun in all the battles I fought in, was going to say thanks for the fights but... All I see in this thread is bitching about everything... Sad... Just sad...

Am I the only guy who is enjoying strategus and walked away from every fight I was in without flinging crap at the winner/loser?
Sportsmanship.
Learn it. Only a child uses the excuse "but he started it."
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 05:17:05 pm
I'd like to thank everyone involved in last nights battles. The Mercs showes us what a determined, disciplined and good fighting village defender benefiting from terrain can do.

However, I'm really sad about people raging like mad in this thread. Why do people forget it's only a game? Now, RuConquista are attacking us without any DoW, so are they backstabbing us, too? So what? That's what this game is all about...

Yeh, everyone who showed up for the Ushkuru fight, thank you.  It was a great battle, they had more mercs than us by the end and it was really grueling and clsoe fight.  i really appreciate your help.  And yeh, I don't think any of us are suddenly calling RuConquista backstabbers even though we had talked to them before and got their merc help in one of our earlier fights against the Mercs.  Its jus another part of a fun diplomatic, strategic, and tactical game.  never understood the whole "you are all evil" victim mentality because somebody attacks you in a silly, but fun internet game.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 05:18:40 pm
This game is set in the mid to late middle ages.
Not the dark ages.

Even if it was the dark ages that does not mean there would be no diplomacy, except amongst the honourless barbarians rampaging against the civilised folk.

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lol tears that is the most bollocks comment ever. Self defence is a valid legal defence in a court of law. If it can be demonstrated someone else started a fight then that puts the other guy in a much safer legal position.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Franke on July 29, 2011, 05:20:04 pm
Rogue is in hospital vMega is making decisions ;) so probably everybody should have known what would happen :p

This came to mymind, too...  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 05:20:53 pm

lol tears that is the most bollocks comment ever. Self defence is a valid legal defence in a court of law. If it can be demonstrated someone else started a fight then that puts the other guy in a much safer legal position.

This is not self defense, this is a bunch of people squabbling about an online game. I posted thinking that my comment would remain in context with the thread, especially since I mentioned Sportsmanship. It had nothing to do with being a generalized statement on life.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 05:23:50 pm
Well, I havent read anything about an official agreement with anybody before our attacks.

As far as I know these are posted so everybody can access them.

We posted our declaration, didn't we?

22nd hasn't asked for any agreement, neither has RuConquista, yet they attack. Am I supposed to call that backstabbing or opportunism?

Making assumptions on our behaviour on official agreements isn't valid since there hasn't been any.

So far and for any upcoming official agreements HRE was following and will follow them.

People tend to remember what they want to remember. .

I wont comment on this real life reference u made plazek....we just anticipate here, its a game :-)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Graf_Hodenschaf on July 29, 2011, 05:31:07 pm

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Of course this is a beta, it is a game, but people have memories. I guess what all you factions do to their own reputations is their business, and the Mercs did some fine work. Cannot really say the same for all those others involved though.

Anyway an entertaining war it seems. Congrats to the mercs I suspect you have done better than many expected.

I forget many things when im drunk  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lockt on July 29, 2011, 05:35:12 pm
What kind of mercenaries hold large swaths of land?  It's going to be impossible for you to be a neutral-for-hire clan when you're making a bunch of claims to fiefs and cities, then holding grudges when you're attacked.  Why don't you just get rid of them and fight for people in exchange for money and troops?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Phazey on July 29, 2011, 05:35:45 pm
Second off, we had ONE battle where we spawned naked and were spawn capped. Only ONE, after which we apologized to the Mercenaries and Noctivigant seemed to be happy.

Thanks for that, i really appreciate that. I'm glad to hear it's not been on purpose. I hope we can prevent more incidents like that in the future.
I'm sorry if you feel that the Mercs have not been nice to you on the forum, but you can probably understand some of the anger. Don't base your impression of our clan on the posts of only a few. They're a brash bunch with some very vocal and outspoken guys that, perhaps, don't have a talent for nuance.  :wink:

... but only rules that you really have to obey are game mechanics.

Sorry to quote you out of context, Cyber, but i do want to address this point you made. It's not true: in cRPG there are strict rules about grieving, leeching or needlessly prolonging the match (wasting people's time).
(I'm not criticizing you here! I'm just grabbing your comment as a place to hook my thoughts on. My comments are intended for those whom it may concern.)

The same should be true for Strategus.

Planning a battle at really awkward times, filling a roster, only to clear the roster out only minutes before a fight and show up with a few naked guys...
How is that not wasting people's time? Combined with timeslots like 3 AM and 5 AM, this is pretty grievous. The only way i know to describe this, is 'roster grieving'.

Note that i'm not commenting on any 'betrayal'.

Now, guys, i think any anger has cooled. Let's look back at the events from the last days and see if we can use them to improve future Strategus encounters, to ensure it remains fun for all those involved. It's a game after all.
Perhaps my memory is faulty, but i don't recall any 'roster griefing' in the old Strategus, nor do i remember any clans to be forced to fight 11 hours straight (to be fair, we did have two 30 minute breaks). But the time span (21:00 untill about 08:00  :shock:) was a bit excessive, as i'm sure you all agree. 

I, for one, would love some limitations to what timeslots can be used, so clans aren't forced to fight at insane times that much. I hear that chadz might be working on that. So that's great news and i'm very happy about that! :)

I would also like it very much if we all try to prevent any 'roster griefing' (planning battles, filling a roster, forcing your opponents to show up and then not giving them a real battle), can be prevented.

Let's all try to get along and keep any discussion civil. Because it's taboo for Mercs to tell other Mercs what to do, i'm just going to 'suggest' that everyone (including my fellow clan members) refrain from using personal insults and unneeded unfriendliness.

Sorry for the long post. This all is my personal opinion. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank our worthy opponents that gave us a string of great fights last night. I'm looking forward to future Strategus battles with good hope that things will improve.

And awesome comic Beauchamp! Hilarious. Keep 'em coming! :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 05:40:24 pm
Once again, Phazey pulls through with a remarkably well written post. This is the sane, level headed, good-natured attitude that I expect from all of you. Do try and emulate his attitude more often.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 05:41:49 pm
What kind of mercenaries hold large swaths of land?  It's going to be impossible for you to be a neutral-for-hire clan when you're making a bunch of claims to fiefs and cities, then holding grudges when you're attacked.  Why don't you just get rid of them and fight for people in exchange for money and troops?

This keeps popping up, and it's a retarded argument. Yes, their clan name is Mercenaries. Yes, they hold land. Why do people have to bitch about it? Jealousy? It's how they choose to play, deal w/ it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 05:44:11 pm
Once again, Phazey pulls through with a remarkably well written post. This is the sane, level headed, good-natured attitude that I expect from all of you. Do try and emulate his attitude more often.
Ok, mom.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Franke on July 29, 2011, 05:45:18 pm
Perhaps my memory is faulty, but i don't recall any 'roster griefing' in the old Strategus, nor do i remember any clans to be forced to fight 11 hours straight (to be fair, we did have two 30 minute breaks). But the time span (21:00 untill about 08:00  :shock:) was a bit excessive, as i'm sure you all agree. 

I, for one, would love some limitations to what timeslots can be used, so clans aren't forced to fight at insane times that much. I hear that chadz might be working on that. So that's great news and i'm very happy about that! :)


I didn't participate in the 1st Strategus, but how has it been handled there (I mean the timeslot thing)? I benefit from the fact that I start to work nightshift today, so I'm probably the only one in the EU community who could afford sleeping until 3 P.M., but even I quit after the Khans' battle. My respect to anyone who did hold out longer.

Concerning vMega's post, I didn't know f any official agreement either. This isn't meant as an excuse or what ever, but I even retired on Tuesday so that I was only lvl 25 when fighting in the battles. They completely took my by surprise, too...

Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 05:49:15 pm
Thanks for that, i really appreciate that. I'm glad to hear it's not been on purpose. I hope we can prevent more incidents like that in the future.
I'm sorry if you feel that the Mercs have not been nice to you on the forum, but you can probably understand some of the anger. Don't base your impression of our clan on the posts of only a few. They're a brash bunch with some very vocal and outspoken guys that, perhaps, don't have a talent for nuance.  :wink:

Sorry to quote you out of context, Cyber, but i do want to address this point you made. It's not true: in cRPG there are strict rules about grieving, leeching or needlessly prolonging the match (wasting people's time).
(I'm not criticizing you here! I'm just grabbing your comment as a place to hook my thoughts on. My comments are intended for those whom it may concern.)

The same should be true for Strategus.

Planning a battle at really awkward times, filling a roster, only to clear the roster out only minutes before a fight and show up with a few naked guys...
How is that not wasting people's time? Combined with timeslots like 3 AM and 5 AM, this is pretty grievous. The only way i know to describe this, is 'roster grieving'.

Note that i'm not commenting on any 'betrayal'.

Now, guys, i think any anger has cooled. Let's look back at the events from the last days and see if we can use them to improve future Strategus encounters, to ensure it remains fun for all those involved. It's a game after all.
Perhaps my memory is faulty, but i don't recall any 'roster griefing' in the old Strategus, nor do i remember any clans to be forced to fight 11 hours straight (to be fair, we did have two 30 minute breaks). But the time span (21:00 untill about 08:00  :shock:) was a bit excessive, as i'm sure you all agree. 

I, for one, would love some limitations to what timeslots can be used, so clans aren't forced to fight at insane times that much. I hear that chadz might be working on that. So that's great news and i'm very happy about that! :)

I would also like it very much if we all try to prevent any 'roster griefing' (planning battles, filling a roster, forcing your opponents to show up and then not giving them a real battle), can be prevented.

Let's all try to get along and keep any discussion civil. Because it's taboo for Mercs to tell other Mercs what to do, i'm just going to 'suggest' that everyone (including my fellow clan members) refrain from using personal insults and unneeded unfriendliness.

Sorry for the long post. This all is my personal opinion. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank our worthy opponents that gave us a string of great fights last night. I'm looking forward to future Strategus battles with good hope that things will improve.

And awesome comic Beauchamp! Hilarious. Keep 'em coming! :D

Thx Phaz, good post, cheers.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 05:52:09 pm
Ok, mom.

Eat your peas.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Franke on July 29, 2011, 05:52:26 pm
This keeps popping up, and it's a retarded argument. Yes, their clan name is Mercenaries. Yes, they hold land. Why do people have to bitch about it? Jealousy? It's how they choose to play, deal w/ it.

Well as said before, it's a game...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lockt on July 29, 2011, 05:58:11 pm
This keeps popping up, and it's a retarded argument. Yes, their clan name is Mercenaries. Yes, they hold land. Why do people have to bitch about it? Jealousy? It's how they choose to play, deal w/ it.

It's not a retarded argument.  I think them being attacked by 5 factions is pretty good evidence of them not being able to stay neutral while hold a bunch of land.  If they want to act like lords of the e-realm then they're going to have to deal with getting attacked.  If they aren't supposed to be neutral for hire, then they just have a stupid name.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Franke on July 29, 2011, 05:58:19 pm
I'm sorry if you feel that the Mercs have not been nice to you on the forum, but you can probably understand some of the anger. Don't base your impression of our clan on the posts of only a few. They're a brash bunch with some very vocal and outspoken guys that, perhaps, don't have a talent for nuance.  :wink:

Well I have no problem with ppl "not being nice on the forum", there's always a certain amount of trolling and sabre rattling in forums like this, but I had gotten the impression that thinks would kind of escalate here.

Of course there are different characters within a clan, just remember that Mega/Rogue issue some posts before...  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 05:58:34 pm
This is not self defense, this is a bunch of people squabbling about an online game. I posted thinking that my comment would remain in context with the thread, especially since I mentioned Sportsmanship. It had nothing to do with being a generalized statement on life.

Within the game, this IS self defence as far as I can see. Where is the logic is disputing this? They are attacked by you, by HRE, by Khan, and BRD. How is this not self defence?

They didn't start it, the attackers did. You dumb?



22nd hasn't asked for any agreement, neither has RuConquista, yet they attack. Am I supposed to call that backstabbing or opportunism?


We attack you?
Where and when? We have no intention of jumping into this mess.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 06:00:17 pm
It's not a retarded argument.  I think them being attacked by 5 factions is pretty good evidence of them not being able to stay neutral while hold a bunch of land.  If they want to act like lords of the e-realm then they're going to have to deal with getting attacked.  If they aren't supposed to be neutral for hire, then they just have a stupid name.
Wow, some people still don't get the idea? Everyone who applies to any battle is a mercenary, they are a mercenary FACTION, which means you can hire their ARMIES that they have to get SOMEWHERE.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 06:04:33 pm
It's not a retarded argument.  I think them being attacked by 5 factions is pretty good evidence of them not being able to stay neutral while hold a bunch of land.  If they want to act like lords of the e-realm then they're going to have to deal with getting attacked.  If they aren't supposed to be neutral for hire, then they just have a stupid name.

Contracts.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 06:08:29 pm
Within the game, this IS self defence as far as I can see. Where is the logic is disputing this? They are attacked by you, by HRE, by Khan, and BRD. How is this not self defence?

They didn't start it, the attackers did. You dumb?

We attack you?
Where and when? We have no intention of jumping into this mess.

You? Who is this You? I don't remember having a clan tag on in any of those battles, I fought from someone requesting that I do so. I was a mercenary.

I was desputing that this was self defense as in a court case like you mentioned. There is no Jury here, there is no Judge. You only have Sovereign Nations around you, peers more or less. There is no almighty power to cast judgement upon us. I still don't understand why the HRE is being called Backstabbers by a few people when they openly declared war and THEN attacked, and were never in any alliance (That is the case of bad sportsmanship that I am refering to. I get that the Mercs think it is crap that they are being ganged up on, but some of what a few people are saying simply holds no water and is just bad sportsmanship and slandering from both sides).
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lockt on July 29, 2011, 06:10:26 pm
Wow, some people still don't get the idea? Everyone who applies to any battle is a mercenary, they are a mercenary FACTION, which means you can hire their ARMIES that they have to get SOMEWHERE.

They could pay money for them.  That's typically what mercenaries go for.  Tydeus doesn't have any holdings and has over 2000 troops.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 06:11:30 pm
Within the game, this IS self defence as far as I can see. Where is the logic is disputing this? They are attacked by you, by HRE, by Khan, and BRD. How is this not self defence?

They didn't start it, the attackers did. You dumb?

We attack you?
Where and when? We have no intention of jumping into this mess.

Was talking directly to you which makes „they„ a substitute for RuConquista.

All good Plazek, no sweat.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 06:12:39 pm
They could pay money for them.  That's typically what mercenaries go for.  Tydeus doesn't have any holdings and has over 2000 troops.

Defiance is just starting out, and is selling themselves as a Mercenary Army. The Mercs are established, and are selling themselves as multiple Mercenary Legions where instead of hiring a legion, you can hire multiple and effectively if you have the money hire an entire nation worth of troops. This requires land.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 06:22:06 pm
Defiance is just starting out, and is selling themselves as a Mercenary Army. The Mercs are established, and are selling themselves as multiple Mercenary Legions where instead of hiring a legion, you can hire multiple and effectively if you have the money hire an entire nation worth of troops. This requires land.

Don't be a naive peasant...jk.  But they are thoroughly enmeshed in the politics of Strategus so the idea of doing neutral mercing for others is a no-go... maybe if they hadn't gone for dead center of the map where the bitterest fighting and largest number of clans are vying for land that idea might have worked or thye could have vassalized themselves to Grey Order (I mean 22nd, sorry) and just asked not to have to fight anyone as vassal in return for discounted services to their overlord.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lockt on July 29, 2011, 06:30:32 pm
Defiance is just starting out, and is selling themselves as a Mercenary Army. The Mercs are established, and are selling themselves as multiple Mercenary Legions where instead of hiring a legion, you can hire multiple and effectively if you have the money hire an entire nation worth of troops. This requires land.

If they want to have a "nation" of troops, they're going to have to deal with all the shit a nation deals with.  They're going to have enemies, they're going to have people plotting against them, and they have allies.  With all this shit they kind of stop being mercenaries and start being a nation. 
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 06:31:38 pm
Some things to say:

1. First battle was really cool. Sure we lost more tickets but probably most of attackers will need more tickets then defenders in future.
2. Second battle was silly. We tried to capture all spawns and probably this cant work if there are enough defenders regardless if they wear armor or not.


2 things you should have thought off before you tried backstabbing us. Splitting a 4k army.. and think you can take 2 villages of us easly. Seems a little cocky too me  :wink:

Now look what has happend... to you 4000 troops. and your village of Emerin. Congrats in hold a village for 24 hours. costing you 2K troops and good amount of gold
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 06:31:46 pm
If they want to have a "nation" of troops, they're going to have to deal with all the shit a nation deals with.  They're going to have enemies, they're going to have people plotting against them, and they have allies.  With all this shit they kind of stop being mercenaries and start being a nation. 

Well, why u put this in future ?  :lol:

It already happend all  :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Camaris on July 29, 2011, 06:39:24 pm
2 things you should have thought off before you tried backstabbing us. Splitting a 4k army.. and think you can take 2 villages of us easly. Seems a little cocky too me  :wink:

Now look what has happend... to you 4000 troops. and your village of Emerin. Congrats in hold a village for 24 hours. costing you 2K troops and good amount of gold

Its not so hard cause you donated us about 30k of money left in the village and decided to fight naked instead.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Keshian on July 29, 2011, 06:49:27 pm
Its not so hard cause you donated us about 30k of money left in the village and decided to fight naked instead.

Plus they lost the 700 men armies they put in each village as well as 1500 of those that attacked black rose, 550 mana rmy they put in Ushkuru - so about 3450 men along with the amazing gear in Ushkuru amounts to roughly 400K worth of gear.  It was  abit of a pyhrric victory on both sides ... and now the Russians smell vodka.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 06:52:54 pm
No tears, you argued that "you started it" is only for little kids. I pointed out one single example of a potential multitude where it provides a justification for otherwise immoral actions. As it is in fact a legit excuse.

HRE are probably being called this because they are allegedly on the Merc TS negotiating passage through their lands before they decided to attack them without warning or provocation, which seems the legitimate grounds for it being called a backstab.

I repeat, you dumb? This all seems obvious to me... One might imagine your being intentionally dense.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 06:55:23 pm
No tears, you argued that "you started it" is only for little kids. I pointed out one single example of a potential multitude where it provides a justification for otherwise immoral actions. As it is in fact a legit excuse.

Do I need to quote myself where I said that it was supposed to remain in context with the thread, and was not meant as a generalized statement on life, or did you miss that?

Here you go again:
I posted thinking that my comment would remain in context with the thread, especially since I mentioned Sportsmanship. It had nothing to do with being a generalized statement on life.

I am talking about "you started it" as in the insult flinging, hence me mentioning sportsmanship... Remain in context...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 06:56:09 pm
Seriously , its gets old.  Repeating lies over and over again doesn't make them true.

Funny hearing this from you lmao
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 06:59:05 pm
@Cyber: fake flank attack worked well, as a spectator i didn´t see it coming!

Hehe fully agree. Those enemy Ghosters seriously pissed me off.

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,12029.new.html#new
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: v/onMega on July 29, 2011, 07:00:08 pm
We negotiated with mercs to go through their lands, yea, right xD

Are you serious?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 07:12:30 pm
You? Who is this You? I don't remember having a clan tag on in any of those battles, I fought from someone requesting that I do so. I was a mercenary.

I always said you were stupid and i say it once again :)

A vassal is under the protection of his suzerain (sorry if those words weren't the good ones, mostly know it in french), meaning that if he went to war he'd have to ask his suzerain and get his support

HRE were fallens' vassals, donno if they still are but if they were fallens are at war with Mercs ^^ if they weren't, well, everyone knows hre and fallens work together ;)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 29, 2011, 07:13:55 pm
HRE, it doesn't matter what happened, what's done is done, prepare for war...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:14:41 pm
I always said you were stupid and i say it once again :)

A vassal is under the protection of his suzerain (sorry if those words weren't the good ones, mostly know it in french), meaning that if he went to war he'd have to ask his suzerain and get his support

HRE were fallens' vassals, donno if they still are but if they were fallens are at war with Mercs ^^ if they weren't, well, everyone knows hre and fallens work together ;)

Do you see a fucking fallen tag on me when I was in any of the battles you god damned idiot? I'd rather be stupid then stupid and illiterate.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 07:19:40 pm
do you see a drz tag on all drz's members ?

your logic fails


Edit: owned lol :x
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:22:49 pm
do you see a drz tag on all drz's members ?

your logic fails

Let me see, I did not have the fallen tag, I did not have the fallen banner(was using the Eastern Tsardom one), my forum profile no longer has the scorpion siggy and my clan islisted as SNSD not fallen...

Thank you gentlemen for the opportunity to fight beside you and train with you. I honestly think we are one of the most organized clans, and certainly the friendliest, that I have ever been in. It has been an absolute pleasure to fight beside you all on the battlefield, and to participate in the innovative tactics that we have developed like the indirect arrow rainstorm that we used in one of our strat battles. Also, thank you for teaching me how to block, as well as the other tips and tricks!

I wish you the best of luck in Strategus, and hope that the Scorpion flies high wherever you go. I will miss fighting beside those soldiers who don't even need a single word to work together.

Thank you for your time, I am leaving the clan due to personal reasons.

EDIT: I also feel that it is appropriate to quote someone about The Fallen Brigade:

I will give you some time to think.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 07:24:20 pm
stop trying to be smart cause you ain't :x
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:26:56 pm
stop trying to be smart cause you ain't :x

You just won't read, will you?

You think I left the Fallen and ditched the sig and left the Clan tag and banner, and yet fought for a clan in the HRE battle?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 07:27:43 pm
to be honest i prefer reading between the lines than the lines themselves, silly me
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 07:27:49 pm
Well thats Olwen the long-ago-but-no-more-hero for you.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:30:18 pm
to be honest i prefer reading between the lines than the lines themselves, silly me

So what are you reading in between the lines?
I pretended to leave the fallen but really was just a spy for the super secret plans that they have for total world domination and never really left?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 07:32:36 pm
once again you're stupid, come on, who doesn't know what's between the lines ?

(click to show/hide)

:lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Nrzloork on July 29, 2011, 07:36:17 pm
Let's all try to get along and keep any discussion civil. Because it's taboo for Mercs to tell other Mercs what to do, i'm just going to 'suggest' that everyone (including my fellow clan members) refrain from using personal insults and unneeded unfriendliness.

Sorry for the long post. This all is my personal opinion. I'd like to take the opportunity to thank our worthy opponents that gave us a string of great fights last night. I'm looking forward to future Strategus battles with good hope that things will improve.

thx for your words mate, appreciate it!
i totally agree with you...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gawin on July 29, 2011, 07:45:19 pm
once again you're stupid, come on, who doesn't know what's between the lines ?

(click to show/hide)

:lol:
ok chill olwen/tears i think we should all go to vegas get wasted and creat hangerover 3
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:46:38 pm
ok chill olwen/tears i think we should all go to vegas get wasted and creat hangerover 3

Hehehe, only three people in the world are allowed to get me drunk (I'm 12).
That does sound tempting though.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 07:47:43 pm
LOL, Tears, teaching us to behave, then raging and throwing outright insults, since you somehow get the idea that plazek was directing that at you whilst quoting someone else?  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 07:49:46 pm
LOL, Tears, teaching us to behave, then raging and throwing outright insults, since you somehow get the idea that plazek was directing that at you whilst quoting someone else?  :lol:

I threw an insult after Olwen threw several *crosses arms and huffs*

I never said that I want to hold myself to the same standards that I want everyone else to, right? I never said everyone shoudl act like this, just that you all should (never said me). I have to earn this "Naive Peasant" custom title damnit! Olwen though does not have it, so he should fuck off and stop trying to steal my glory.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 07:50:28 pm
Ok, mom.

PtX seriously .. i start loving you more everyday  :wink: Come back too us!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq17mbj8RHI
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 29, 2011, 07:51:13 pm
damn it, not Jambi again... :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 07:53:48 pm
No, Jambi, i do not love you back, sadly. You've broken my heart one too many times.  :(
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gawin on July 29, 2011, 07:54:46 pm
Hehehe, only three people in the world are allowed to get me drunk (I'm 12).
That does sound tempting though.
haha its ok im only 14 but i can get you around :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 07:59:11 pm
Shall the drama between Jambi and ptx continue  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Thucydides on July 29, 2011, 08:00:46 pm
Hehehe, only three people in the world are allowed to get me drunk (I'm 12).
That does sound tempting though.

bullshit, 12 year olds can't type like an adult.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 08:04:10 pm
bullshit, 12 year olds can't type like an adult.
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: [ptx] on July 29, 2011, 08:05:09 pm
That [ x ] doesn't work, Xant, you fail!  :mad:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 08:05:31 pm
That [ x ] doesn't work, Xant, you fail!  :mad:

It's a trap
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: 22nd_King_Plazek on July 29, 2011, 08:13:48 pm
We negotiated with mercs to go through their lands, yea, right xD

Are you serious?

Yes, thats what it seems. The Merc leadership say you were on their TS and that it was agreed you were in their lands but were not attacking them (at least from what I can gather from this thread). I find it quite unlikely that your army would have made it to their villages unmolested if they believed you to be a threat, the Mercs run a pretty tight ship.

Even the cartoon says that there was a military access agreement of some sort!  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:14:09 pm
Do you see a fucking fallen tag on me when I was in any of the battles you god damned idiot? I'd rather be stupid then stupid and illiterate.

Once again, Phazey pulls through with a remarkably well written post. This is the sane, level headed, good-natured attitude that I expect from all of you. Do try and emulate his attitude more often.

You should think/try harder.  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:22:39 pm
No, Jambi, i do not love you back, sadly. You've broken my heart one too many times.  :(
Noooesss!  :?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 08:23:18 pm
You should think/try harder.  :wink:

Notice the "all of you" not "all of us." In no way shape or form does my statement include myself. I would make a snide remark of you learning to read better, but English is not your first language so that would be terribly rude of me.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:24:41 pm
BTW for HRE

Declaring war, when your armies are right next to your targets.. and then attacking them 1 minutes later.  Yep... surely cant see that as backstabbing.. but proper war declaration.

Derpy herpy
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:26:10 pm
Notice the "all of you" not "all of us." In no way shape or form does my statement include myself. I would make a snide remark of you learning to read better, but English is not your first language so that would be terribly rude of me.

i read between the line, like Olwen. Him being the former hero and all... he taught me everything i needed to know before he bestowed me, giving me his Hero title
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: krampe on July 29, 2011, 08:26:45 pm
Shut up and beat RuConquista Jambi, you know, they backstabbed us! :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 08:27:58 pm
BTW for HRE

Declaring war, when your armies are right next to your targets.. and then attacking them 1 minutes later.  Yep... surely cant see that as backstabbing.. but proper war declaration.

Derpy herpy

Maybe it was like the Japanese during WWII where they meant to send the declaration before the attack but it was supposedly sent late.  :lol:

i read between the line, like Olwen. Him being the former hero and all... he taught me everything i needed to know before he bestowed me, giving me his Hero title
Ergh, edit your own posts don't double or tripple post everywhere... what is with this trend lately on these forums...
And for the record, you are misusing the "read between the lines" figure of speech, where as he was using it properly...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 08:30:49 pm
Shut up and beat RuConquista Jambi, you know, they backstabbed us! :D

Nah, ill fight for them for free, always and I know most mercs will too.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 08:33:54 pm
Nah, ill fight for them for free, always and I know most mercs will too.

that  :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 08:35:28 pm
Hehehe, only three people in the world are allowed to get me drunk (I'm 12).

nuff' said !
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 08:37:23 pm
nuff' said !

He's 12 and you're French, I'd say you're on even ground.  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: NuberT on July 29, 2011, 08:41:50 pm
BTW for HRE

Declaring war, when your armies are right next to your targets.. and then attacking them 1 minutes later.  Yep... surely cant see that as backstabbing.. but proper war declaration.

Derpy herpy

Actually I wrote that a minute after we attacked  :mrgreen:

Yes, thats what it seems. The Merc leadership say you were on their TS and that it was agreed you were in their lands but were not attacking them (at least from what I can gather from this thread). I find it quite unlikely that your army would have made it to their villages unmolested if they believed you to be a threat, the Mercs run a pretty tight ship.

Even the cartoon says that there was a military access agreement of some sort!  :mrgreen:

We never talked about military access, we talked about how the AI fiefs could be divided. We agreed to work together somehow to defend tebandra, so we can take it for ourself. Unfortunatly I did the talking, but was never in charge, just passed the information..
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 29, 2011, 08:45:09 pm
acting like their first born daughter just got raped...

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 09:06:52 pm
He's 12 and you're French, I'd say you're on even ground.  :lol:

With slight advantage to the 12 year old guy.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:11:40 pm
With slight advantage to the 12 year old guy.

I'd say notable advantage to Tears of Destiny. At least he is capable of processing logic into sentences.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 09:12:41 pm
I'd say notable advantage to Tears of Destiny. At least he is capable of processing logic into sentences.

Yet Olwen was once a hero, but also ToD is american, dont forget that.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:14:43 pm
Yet Olwen was once a hero, but also ToD is american, dont forget that.

Yes but Olwen has the intellectual ability of a frog. Conveniently enough.  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blondin on July 29, 2011, 09:17:46 pm
I will not tolerate this french racism, is this a proper declaration of war??
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Different on July 29, 2011, 09:18:55 pm
I thaught the online-wars french vs the world has always been   :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:22:11 pm
I will not tolerate this french racism, is this a proper declaration of war??

Don't worry, I like frogs.

Just not the mentally challenged ones.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Torben on July 29, 2011, 09:30:05 pm
finally the thread is getting a healthy dose of francophone hatred,  buddylove-racism and WW2 references.
I feared it becoming pointless ^^
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 09:31:13 pm
Yawn, I just woke up and people already posted 3894723 replies, its usually disappointing. Trolling whining griefing etc. Beauchamp.....dear Beauchamp.... :lol: Its been a long time that I didn't go to Istanbul, I wish we had decent kebabs in Netherlands (Ayran ftw)

Only constructive comment I can write is :

Mtemtko shut the fuck up will you? same for you Kesh. I'll request a room for you two from chadz so you can hump each other until you fall in love with each other. When I wrote this thread I thought people would be a bit smarter to understand that I wasn't serious at all. Vulgaris Magistralis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reOLeLX0Q9U#t=16s) I thought you wouldn't miss that link.

Btw Anwyl, you still didn't kill me. LOOK PEOPLE A LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za0-Q33rLtE) (OMGOMGZOMG HE IS TROLLING ABUSER ARROGANT CUNT ZOMG)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Olwen on July 29, 2011, 09:32:15 pm
when a gay from sweden taunts me i don't really get offended  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 09:37:07 pm
I like the part where you wrote:

We accept no responsibility for what our members do or say
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 29, 2011, 09:37:38 pm
I like the part where you wrote:

We accept no responsibility for what our members do or say

I was thinking the same thing too....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blondin on July 29, 2011, 09:47:23 pm
I hope so Bjord, i see you fear the french fury!!
Btw, i have some troops to move inside your land, can i?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 09:53:46 pm
when a gay from sweden taunts me i don't really get offended  :lol:

How is stating generally accepted facts taunting you?  :D
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 29, 2011, 10:16:46 pm
Btw Anwyl, you still didn't kill me. LOOK PEOPLE A LINK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=za0-Q33rLtE) (OMGOMGZOMG HE IS TROLLING ABUSER ARROGANT CUNT ZOMG)

 :rolleyes: :wink: :lol:

I liked it. I don't know.

Really I have nothing against the mercs. While you all can get very arrogant about your fighting skills, as long as you can back it up (which you can) I say go for it. True some things your members do make me mad, but every clan has it's bad eggs (*cough* Antonio_TKoV). I guess what I'm saying is, I have nothing against you all. I think you are good fighters, and generally pretty fun about most things. But for the record I still don't like Mtemtko.

And Nocti, I will still kill you for "Thinking about the lady on her knees"  :twisted:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 10:34:52 pm
But for the record I still don't like Mtemtko.

No one likes Mtemtko.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 29, 2011, 10:36:35 pm
No one likes Mtemtko.

Not even his own mother.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 29, 2011, 10:37:22 pm
No one likes Mtemtko.

I'm trying to keep it that way  :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 29, 2011, 10:38:02 pm
I'm trying to keep it that way  :lol:
You needn't try.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 29, 2011, 10:51:23 pm
:rolleyes: :wink: :lol:

I liked it. I don't know.

Really I have nothing against the mercs. While you all can get very arrogant about your fighting skills, as long as you can back it up (which you can) I say go for it. True some things your members do make me mad, but every clan has it's bad eggs (*cough* Antonio_TKoV). I guess what I'm saying is, I have nothing against you all. I think you are good fighters, and generally pretty fun about most things. But for the record I still don't like Mtemtko.

And Nocti, I will still kill you for "Thinking about the lady on her knees"  :twisted:

You guys are ok, There is only one person in this battle that I dislike and It's not a strong feeling at all. Plus I enjoy that people dislike me, sending me hate notes etc. I just read them smirk, go wash the dishes thats the reality of life people.

Tbh I just thought about the dog getting its teeth brushed, but if you keep reminding it I might give a shot. Knee fetish.....hmmmmm
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lansamur on July 29, 2011, 10:58:09 pm
I like Heidevolk and Wardruna...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mustikki on July 29, 2011, 11:19:25 pm
This thread is finally going to its end!? 
what laughts this gave :lol:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 12:54:38 am

Tbh I just thought about the dog getting its teeth brushed, but if you keep reminding it I might give a shot. Knee fetish.....hmmmmm

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Overdriven on July 30, 2011, 12:59:49 am
when a gay from sweden taunts me i don't really get offended  :lol:

Well I'm English. I think that gives me a legitimate basis to pick up the gauntlet.

My University toilet cubicles have arrows saying 'French Flags' pointing to the toilet paper. I do love University graffiti :lol:

PS: You guys wrote 5 pages worth of stuff since I last looked at this thread about 6 hours ago? I'm impressed that this still has that kind of momentum.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: sWalker on July 30, 2011, 01:02:43 am
I like Mtemtko...

I like shooting him :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 30, 2011, 01:29:36 am
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Lol, btw I've realized if you just type "sex offender" in google...

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 01:30:46 am
I'm a blond now? Interesting...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 01:32:34 am
I'm a blond now? Interesting...

There must be another meaning to it  :mrgreen:

Also LOL @ muffin
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 01:33:37 am
Why are blond jokes so short?
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Voso on July 30, 2011, 01:36:27 am
Tears of Destiny can sexually offend me any day.  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 30, 2011, 01:40:11 am
Tears of Destiny can sexually offend me any day.  :wink:

 :evil:

You're mine, and you better remember it.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 30, 2011, 01:45:39 am
:shock:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 01:47:03 am
Tears of Destiny can sexually offend me any day.  :wink:

Added to my quote thread.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 30, 2011, 01:49:36 am
Why are blond jokes so short?
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 01:50:27 am
Well this thread got kinda derailed........ a while ago  :P
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 30, 2011, 01:50:52 am
:evil:


You're mine, and you better remember it.

Ow you guys are together?! how cute!
now we can have 3some knee group! We'll just stare at our knees until someone explode with joy SATISFACTION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5bYDhZBFLA)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 01:51:18 am
Well this thread got kinda derailed........ a while ago  :P

Sex.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 30, 2011, 01:52:38 am
Ow you guys are together?! how cute!
now we can have 3some knee group! We'll just stare at our knees until someone explode with joy SATISFACTION (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5bYDhZBFLA)

That sounds fun, but why stop at 3? Want to come Destiny?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 30, 2011, 02:02:24 am
That sounds fun, but why stop at 3? Want to come Destiny?

Woah, woah, woah. Kesh is just 12!

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Edit: Kesh? Damn, I need to stop fantasizing about Kesh. I meant Tears.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 02:12:22 am
Woah, woah, woah. Kesh is just 12!

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Edit: Kesh? Damn, I need to stop fantasizing about Kesh. I meant Tears.
Understandable mistake.
Nubile.

It now means Kesh/Tears/Rhaelys.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Cepeshi on July 30, 2011, 02:50:30 am
No matter the flamewars and bitching, was some damn epic battling, even tho on the last defensive fight i kept falling asleep in the last 20 minutes :(
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 30, 2011, 03:04:34 am
Sex.

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 30, 2011, 03:05:24 am
It disturbs me beyond belief that is an actual toy.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Lizard_man on July 30, 2011, 03:10:09 am
oh come on, you know you had one...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Voso on July 30, 2011, 05:30:42 am
Thats one of the funniest looking water bottles I have ever seen.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: HarunYahya on July 30, 2011, 05:37:13 am
OMG Dad of 2 lil girls seducing a toy baby for his daughters WTF IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD ???
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on July 30, 2011, 06:30:50 am
As a completely uninvolved third party (I left my clan, am not participating in strat as anything other than the occasional merc just for fun), I would say that personally, I think that most of the people who have posted in this thread(This now includes myself) are hotheaded idiots. As hardcore serious as Strategus is(Serious like risk serious bro) there's no real need to insult each other based on the actions of clan members. For instance, I'll say that judging from Jambi's posts he looks like a raging tard. However, I'm sure that the Mercs are generally a great group of guys. Really, there's no need to insult people based on the actions they've taken in-game, when there's so much more to rage about when it comes to the shitposts they make on the forums. After all, with a game you should be able to have fun, win or lose. But when it comes to reading a shitpost, nobody wins. Not even the shitposter.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 30, 2011, 06:40:18 am
I'll say that judging from Jambi's posts he looks like a raging tard. However, I'm sure that the Mercs are generally a great group of guys.

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bothersome_Aldryk on July 30, 2011, 06:45:55 am
Touché, Jambi.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Darkkarma on July 30, 2011, 06:57:23 am
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 :wink:

Jambi in TearsOfDestiny's ping thread?  :wink: http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html (http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,11675.0.html)
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gorath on July 30, 2011, 08:57:07 am
Why has this bundle of sticksry reached 32 pages?   :?

Just.... why?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Nrzloork on July 30, 2011, 09:14:49 am
because people keep feeding the trolls ^^
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 30, 2011, 03:34:10 pm
because people keep feeding the trolls ^^

I agree, we need to stop this
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 30, 2011, 04:23:47 pm
I agree, we need to stop this
We wouldn't want you to starve, now would we?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 30, 2011, 05:47:50 pm
We wouldn't want you to starve, now would we?

What ? Starve? no way! McDonalds is all over this thread  :wink:
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 30, 2011, 06:00:45 pm
Why has this bundle of sticksry reached 32 pages?   :?

Just.... why?
Ok  people, Gorath showed up. Stench of this topic started to attract more trolls, it means its time to go home. Save yourselves before he start to post the pictures of his family.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Puppybull on July 30, 2011, 06:47:32 pm
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gorath on July 30, 2011, 07:05:50 pm
Save yourselves before he start to post the pictures of his family.

WTF?

Go suck a dick like the other men in your family eurotrash fuck.  With any luck some random gunman will put a hole in every member of your family like the dude from norway.  Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 07:13:41 pm
Oh shi-
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: POOPHAMMER on July 30, 2011, 07:32:46 pm
WTF?

Go suck a dick like the other men in your family eurotrash fuck.  With any luck some random gunman will put a hole in every member of your family like the dude from norway.  Go fuck yourself.

Someone is off of his meds
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Rikthor on July 30, 2011, 07:32:57 pm
WTF?

Go suck a dick like the other men in your family eurotrash fuck.  With any luck some random gunman will put a hole in every member of your family like the dude from norway.  Go fuck yourself.

Jesus dude
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 30, 2011, 07:40:09 pm
Jeezuz he edited his post, but then again, I would agree with what he said, human instict can be a mean thing, and noc you triggered that by mentioning his daughter :/
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mtemtko on July 30, 2011, 07:43:44 pm
Another oh-shi moment.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Siiem on July 30, 2011, 07:49:17 pm
I don't see how it was any worse then what gorath wrote...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Jambi on July 30, 2011, 07:51:06 pm
WTF?

Go suck a dick like the other men in your family eurotrash fuck.  With any luck some random gunman will put a hole in every member of your family like the dude from norway.  Go fuck yourself.

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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Puppybull on July 30, 2011, 07:53:41 pm
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Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Anwyl on July 30, 2011, 07:55:39 pm
WTF?

Go suck a dick like the other men in your family eurotrash fuck.  With any luck some random gunman will put a hole in every member of your family like the dude from norway.  Go fuck yourself.

Wow that it totally fucked. I don't even live in Europe and I find that offensive.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 08:01:17 pm
Gee. A few people posted RL information and photos of Gorath and his daughter to "get even with him." Obviously he was upset that someone would stoop this low.

Now, weeks later, someone cracks a joke that it was Gorath himself that posted those photos and information to begin with, which is a shitty move.

I wonder why he reacted then the way he did... gee....
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gorath on July 30, 2011, 08:02:38 pm
Wow that it totally fucked. I don't even live in Europe and I find that offensive.

Good.  And if you've been dealing with every cunt thinking it's funny to attack your family for the past month and a half or so I bet you'd react differently too.

Poop:  You can go fuck yourself too bundle of sticks.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 08:05:10 pm
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,4112.0.html

Might want to read the latest thing... Last post.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 30, 2011, 08:06:10 pm
Gee. A few people posted RL information and photos of Gorath and his daughter to "get even with him." Obviously he was upset that someone would stoop this low.

Now, weeks later, someone cracks a joke that it was Gorath himself that posted those photos and information to begin with, which is a shitty move.

I wonder why he reacted then the way he did... gee....

Good to see someone see the way I do instead of going ''AHGHHGHH GORATH THAT HURT, I DONT CARE IF THAT GUY MADE FUN OF YOU'RE FAMILY IN A NET FORUM YOU HURT SOMEBODY, I DUNNO WHO''

The man lost it because you went too far, and poophammer that was uncalled for you're feeding the rage...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 08:09:14 pm
Good to see someone see the way I do instead of going ''AHGHHGHH GORATH THAT HURT, I DONT CARE IF THAT GUY MADE FUN OF YOU'RE FAMILY IN A NET FORUM YOU HURT SOMEBODY, I DUNNO WHO''

The man lost it because you went too far, and poophammer that was uncalled for you're feeding the rage...

^

Seriously folks, too far is too far.
Flaming a guy on a forum is one thing, but bringing real life information including his family into it?

It was an absolutely shitty joke so of course Gorath blew up. The incident in question was recent, and the joke makes it sound like it was Gorath's fault that the stuff was posted in the first place.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 30, 2011, 08:10:20 pm
Wow that it totally fucked. I don't even live in Europe and I find that offensive.

I live Europe and I'm not in the least bit offended. Could it just be that I am way smarter?
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Darkkarma on July 30, 2011, 08:13:26 pm
Close this fucking thread. I'm all for witty banter, but this is just going a bit too far now.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tempest on July 30, 2011, 08:14:49 pm
I live Europe and I'm not in the least bit offended. Could it just be that I am way smarter?

Hmmmmmmm........No.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Blueberry Muffin on July 30, 2011, 08:15:20 pm
Wow this thread is so fucked.

@Gorath you look badass man. Nocti didnt mean to offend you me thinks. Im sure he will come and smooth things over but I think he is being beaten up by his gf atm.(No joke)

Oh and that shit about Norway is way over the line.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Xant on July 30, 2011, 08:15:47 pm
Hmmmmmmm........No.

Damn... worth a try, though.

And c'mon. Bringing someone's daughter into this is too much, guise.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 30, 2011, 08:17:44 pm
Wow Gorath, I didn't insult your family at all. But what you wrote is totally fucked up. I don't get offended if you call me eurotrash or something else, but if you find a mass murder funny, I think its true that your body fat is taking over your brain.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: H4rdn3ssKill3r on July 30, 2011, 08:19:36 pm
FFS noctivagant you aren't helping anyone by making it worse, both of you are shooting you're selves in the foot...
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Tears of Destiny on July 30, 2011, 08:19:48 pm
@Gorath you look badass man. Nocti didnt mean to offend you me thinks. Im sure he will come and smooth things over but I think he is being beaten up by his gf atm.(No joke)


Or not...

Seriously, someone delete those photos WHICH ARE AGAINST FORUM RULES and lock this cesspool of a thread.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Bjord on July 30, 2011, 08:23:23 pm
31 years old, Gorath. That's a lot of life experience. You'd think someone of your age has learned how to deal with things maturely.

And seriously, that Norway comment was not okay. I don't care about generic Eurotrash insults, but that was fucking over the line. I don't care if you have a rage fit, that's just fucked up.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Gorath on July 30, 2011, 08:25:02 pm
Wow Gorath, I didn't insult your family at all.
Selective fucking memory there.  You brought up pictures of my family because you weren't being insulting?  Logic fail retard.
but if you find a mass murder funny[/b
I'm sorry, did it sound like I was laughing, fuckwit?
@Gorath you look badass man. Nocti didnt mean to offend you me thinks.

Don't give a shit about me one bit.  People can bash, insult, spit upon, trololo me all they want.  But this shit about going after my family (which is just a vague way of saying my daughter as it's just her and I) is fucking stupid and I'm just about sick as hell of it.  All hail the power of the internet where people can go after my daughter without fear of getting their fucking teeth curbstomped down the back of their throat.  Fuck them.
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Misan on July 30, 2011, 08:25:27 pm
Once a goon always a goon. Any slight unwaveringly ends in "FUCK YOU DAD". I thought you were different, Gorath. Granted, at least you aren't transsexual yet.

Protip, keep your kids off the internet
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Noctivagant on July 30, 2011, 08:25:44 pm

Or not...

Seriously, someone delete those photos WHICH ARE AGAINST FORUM RULES and lock this cesspool of a thread.

+1

Jeezuz he edited his post, but then again, I would agree with what he said, human instict can be a mean thing, and noc you triggered that by mentioning his daughter :/

1 I didn't mention his child at the first place
2 I didn't mean to insult him
3 I find it absurd to post pictures of your family on forum
4 I find posting your own pictures on forum, which I mentioned clearly on the poophammer's post your pic topic
Title: Re: And finally people show their true colors.
Post by: Mylet on July 30, 2011, 08:27:39 pm
Oh wow. Nice flame war.  :rolleyes: