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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #60 on: July 12, 2011, 10:32:47 am »
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Crossbow/Bow build:

9 Strength
30 Agility
143 Archery
150 Crossbow

10 Athletics
3 Power Draw
10 Weapon Master
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2011, 11:35:47 am »
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Would you consider this Solid?

Strength: 36
Agility: 3

Hit points: 93

Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 11
Power Strike: 12

Two Handed: 113
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2011, 11:40:14 am »
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Weakling, put all prof in 1 handed weapons!
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2011, 01:27:49 pm »
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I have a build request:

My thrower was broken since the previous patch and now with the new wpf requirements it still is.
I'm not sure what the new requirements are, but I'm guessing 12 or 13 wpf needed per level of PT.

The build would have to be a pure thrower with an effective PT of 10 with some wpf to spare so I can wear some armour.
Spare points would go into athletics and PS.

If possible, tested to see if the amount of wpf is sufficient for 10 PT.

Thanks :)

*EDIT*
I could come up with:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 30
Agility: 9
Hit points: 65
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 0
Athletics: 3
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 10
Weapon Master: 3
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 132

But this build leaves no room for armour if the required wpf is 13 per level of PT.

This build would sacrefice 7 PS for a measly 7 wpf:

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 30
Agility: 12
Hit points: 65
Skills to attributes: 14
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 3
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 10
Weapon Master: 4
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 139
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 01:30:43 pm by Spawny »
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #64 on: July 12, 2011, 01:37:45 pm »
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« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 01:39:41 pm by Corwinus »
I mean, what have you got to lose? You know, you come from nothing, you're going back to nothing, what have you lost? Nothing!

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #65 on: July 12, 2011, 04:44:04 pm »
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This is my proposed build.  Similar to the 30/9 build at the beginning of the thread but minus the athletics.  I use a long blunt weapon (long hafted mace) and a crossbow (mid-level).  My question is theoretically is my 2H high enough?  I'm not a great player, my KD is rarely positive, but I like the playstyle.  Critiques?

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)
Strength: 30
Agility: 9
Hit points: 85
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 10
Power Strike: 10
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 3
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 110
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 87
Throwing: 1

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #66 on: July 12, 2011, 06:26:20 pm »
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Accurate dart thrower but still damaging. 27/12 sucks, something else plox. AND i will wear light armor, so athletics approx 5.

Btw
I do use skip the fun but there's that cooldown thing, wtf?

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #67 on: July 12, 2011, 09:45:52 pm »
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Made a STF horse xbowmen.  Only went to 7 str because that's what is needed for light xbow.  In my char I brought xbow prof to 171 and polearms to 80 wpf.

    Strength: 7
    Agility: 27
    Hit points: 42

    Attributes to skills: 1

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 2
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 9
    Riding: 9
    Horse Archery: 4
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 9

    One Handed: 13
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 181
    Throwing: 1
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #68 on: July 12, 2011, 09:54:24 pm »
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This is my proposed build.  Similar to the 30/9 build at the beginning of the thread but minus the athletics.  I use a long blunt weapon (long hafted mace) and a crossbow (mid-level).  My question is theoretically is my 2H high enough?  I'm not a great player, my KD is rarely positive, but I like the playstyle.  Critiques?

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You need the athletics man. that 6 HP more is not worth cutting the athletics on such a low agility build. And yes, the 2h has enough WPF.
I have a build request:

My thrower was broken since the previous patch and now with the new wpf requirements it still is.
I'm not sure what the new requirements are, but I'm guessing 12 or 13 wpf needed per level of PT.

The build would have to be a pure thrower with an effective PT of 10 with some wpf to spare so I can wear some armour.
Spare points would go into athletics and PS.

If possible, tested to see if the amount of wpf is sufficient for 10 PT.

Thanks :)

*EDIT*
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You need 13 WPF per PT. You get exactly 130 WPF with 3 WM. You'd have to be naked. The only real way to 10 PT thrower is 30/12. And it is no melee...
Just settle for less PT.
Would you consider this Solid?

Strength: 36
Agility: 3

Hit points: 93

Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 11
Power Strike: 12

Two Handed: 113
1 athletics 10 IF. Only change. ...I have a character like it and yes it is solid with a faster/longer 2h. Use a Goedandag/Miaodao or greatsword! (The goedandag is best)
I don't have 36/3 listed in my thread for who knows why. It works really well though.

Crossbow/Bow build:

9 Strength
30 Agility
143 Archery
150 Crossbow

10 Athletics
3 Power Draw
10 Weapon Master
WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

Accurate dart thrower but still damaging. 27/12 sucks, something else plox. AND i will wear light armor, so athletics approx 5.

Btw
I do use skip the fun but there's that cooldown thing, wtf?
I did a 8 PT 5 Athletics /5 wm /5 PS dedicated thrower before the patch and IT was effective then! I imagine it is still really good now, but I'm a big fan of the 21/15 thrower build.
And yeah STF was changed oddly.

Made a STF horse xbowmen.  Only went to 7 str because that's what is needed for light xbow.  In my char I brought xbow prof to 171 and polearms to 80 wpf.
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That is a decent horse xbowmen build. I've done it before and it works... Just horse xbowmen isn't that great imo? You can however dodge everything with such high riding :).


I haven't had any time to play with the new patch. All old builds are still good though. Haven't added Xbow or new throwing variations yet.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #69 on: July 12, 2011, 10:06:21 pm »
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Going 1h/shield again, and I loved the 21/15 cookie cutter but just got a MW langes and want to really hurt, so I've been considering different builds.  Originally thinking about 24/15 cookie cutter but don't like the lack of IF.  I devised one that looks pretty awesome on paper.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 24
    Agility: 12
    Hit points: 75

    Unused skill points: 1

    Skills to attributes: 2

    Ironflesh: 8
    Power Strike: 8
    Shield: 4
    Athletics: 4
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 4

    One Handed: 139
    Two Handed: 1
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 1
    Throwing: 1

Main cons are I'll be a little slower and my shield will break a little easier, but the extra 16 hp seems really tasty, especially if I put some heavier than normal armor on.  I have one unused point which annoys me, I guess I could put one into throwing weapons and bust out some darts, or swap out 1 IF and put 2 into riding for the lulz. 

Either way I'm looking forward to it.  I've felt fast enough with 3 ath so far provided I don't let myself get backpeddled, so I'm feeling positive.

I have this build currently. You won't get backpedaled easily if you wear light armor, even with a ~60 weapon reach weapon. A MW langes will definitely be useful for this build even with heavier armor on. Sometimes, you'll need to rely on right swings more often for spacing.

 The ironflesh helps you survive even with light armor, and you hit like a truck. Light armor helps you keep up with everyone, and you'll be using a lighter shield anyways. You'll survive a surprising number of hits, even in peasant gear and a knightly heater shield.

 I saved that extra point so I could get to level 32 with a 27/12 build, so you'll have 8 IF still and 9 PS.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2011, 10:08:21 pm by san. »

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2011, 08:46:17 am »
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WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

Because sometimes you just need to switch to a crossbow in the middle of an archery duel.

Anyway when this bloody cooldown timer wears off I'm going to try a 15/24 5 IF 5 PS 8 ath 5 WM two-hander to chase down backpedallers archers.
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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2011, 11:04:30 am »
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Did I read "chase down"?

God, just use my build, 100% works for archers and with new armor reduction/armor soak stats it doesn't bounce off at all if you use footwork.
Just use Yanmadao.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 6
Agility: 33
Hit points: 41
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 2
Shield: 0
Athletics: 11
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 190
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Srsly, it is fully playable. Fast running will never be the same, with 11 athletics YOU are setting rhythm of the fight, not your opponent.
I usually just fight faster and faster so my opponent ends up not knowing where he is :>
And don't forget about stuns - you have to remember to block twice in 90% of cases, or just simply jump out if your opponent swings. ]:->

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #72 on: July 14, 2011, 06:19:52 am »
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That silly HA build is something that native would do

15-24 is the only way to go as an ha imo

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #73 on: July 14, 2011, 07:44:15 am »
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Did I read "chase down"?

God, just use my build, 100% works for archers and with new armor reduction/armor soak stats it doesn't bounce off at all if you use footwork.
Just use Yanmadao.

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 6
Agility: 33
Hit points: 41
Skills to attributes: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 2
Shield: 0
Athletics: 11
Riding: 0
Horse Archery: 0
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 190
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Srsly, it is fully playable. Fast running will never be the same, with 11 athletics YOU are setting rhythm of the fight, not your opponent.
I usually just fight faster and faster so my opponent ends up not knowing where he is :>
And don't forget about stuns - you have to remember to block twice in 90% of cases, or just simply jump out if your opponent swings. ]:->

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Re: Solid Builds
« Reply #74 on: July 14, 2011, 03:17:28 pm »
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Dadamiaodao :P

I like 'em, but Dadao is SO underpowered compared to Miaodao :/

But Dadao is prettier.