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Overhead stab for polearms with shields
« on: February 20, 2014, 11:03:04 pm »
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In the beggining, I'm not sure about the hoplite balance atm, so please, do not rage if you think that it will ruin the game. Just tell that it would make those too OP. (And sorry if this idea was already given - used search option, but in that case it means that I cant use it correctly)

All right, so this idea I took from mod called "Rome at War", where plaing as a greek hoplite you could swich your spear "mode" (attack) by pressing x - it made feinting impossible, but allowed at least to suprise your enemy or just have a better dmg in the close combat.
How can this vary the fighting style? First we must think how we can differ that overhead from "normal" stab (feel free to contribute). I think that we can keep the normal stab as it is now - good range, sucks at face-to-face combat. Overhead though, could work like some sort of "dolphin style" attack (a bit as it is possible in NW), which would allow hoplites to stay dangerous even when brushing enemy's chest.
Generally this would be a buff for hoplites, still I'd like to see that, because of historical and realistic aspect, which allowed such things. Even if hoplites shouldnt get a buff, it could be implemented, and balanced by nerfing damage/speed/range/animation/etc.

As I said before, feel free to contribute, every point (written in a polite manner) is precious and valuable.
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Re: Overhead stab for polearms with shields
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2014, 11:28:37 pm »
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The idea of an overhead alternate mode doesn't seem too bad for me, from a gameplay or realism perspective. But its probably not something that would fit into the current blocking system of the game. Holding a downblock to block stabs is already very unintuitive and makes no real sense, holding an upblock for stabs would be even more jarringly unrealistic looking.

It might overcomplicate the combat a bit too
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Re: Overhead stab for polearms with shields
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 12:05:26 am »
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No one has ever suggested this before.
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Re: Overhead stab for polearms with shields
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2014, 11:44:31 pm »
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Re: Overhead stab for polearms with shields
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2014, 11:58:28 pm »
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Since the stab and especially hoplite stab is so fucked now, why not?