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Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« on: January 17, 2012, 05:45:38 am »
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Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield like a arbalest.
need good str+ps+wpf, good thrust pierce damage weapon (Espada Eslavona, spears, Bec de Corbin etc) vs weak shield
Realistic? do you like it?
« Last Edit: January 17, 2012, 05:47:59 am by illogical »
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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 06:14:55 am »
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Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield like a arbalest.
need good str+ps+wpf, good thrust pierce damage weapon (Espada Eslavona, spears, Bec de Corbin etc) vs weak shield
Realistic? do you like it?
Hah nice post-poster combination , it has it's answer in it .
Loved it ^^

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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 10:18:01 am »
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That'd be a stupid shield nerf.

Unblockable attack if you happen to have a weak shield. So basically even more than now people would hug the high resistance shields. Elite cavalry shield or huscarl might keep you fairly safe, but to really be safe, the plate covered round shield or buckler for everyone! Lower level players would be totally pointless with a shield since any high level char would probably oneshot them with a good pierce - though you can start using the round ashtray buckler at shields 3 and it shouldn't be penetrated by anything except lancing cav with crossbow formula.

So basically what the change would do is to remove variety in shields, not much more.

« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 10:19:04 am by Elmokki »

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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 10:21:21 am »
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Don't like it at all.

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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 10:25:09 am »
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Arbalest does not penetrate all the shields and not all places. Also, thrust will be in the same cases.
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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 10:26:39 am »
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It would be OP.

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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 10:29:59 am »
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Re: Pierce thrust strike penetrate weak shield
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 05:14:28 pm »
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Arbalest does not penetrate all the shields and not all places. Also, thrust will be in the same cases.

Shield will be penetrated by a crossbow if:

damage > 30 + (3* resistance)

For crossbow this is fine because even if you happen to have a lower end resistance shield, chances are air friction etc make your shield strong enough. Fire rate is also low so it can't be spammed.

Besides why the hell would anyone even want to use a shield that has the chance of getting penetrated? I mean, seriously, if I just skip using the shield I can at least block the thrust without it doing damage to me instead of some random chance or constant damage taking regardless of if I block or not?

Though sure, if I played 2h or especially if I played a spear polearm build obviously it'd be awesome to make every shield user take their shield off when I start attacking them :D If shields annoy you, carry an axe. They'll break pretty much any shield fairly fast anyway.

This kind of change would just either a) promote going polearm/2h build b) exclusively metal shields. It's not a problematic mechanic for crossbows, weapons with extremely low fire rate and good chance of missing someone who attempts dodging. It's an extremely retarded mechanic for melee.

I personally would rather see more variety in shield use than now, not considerably less.