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General Discussion / Re: The ranking system is too unfriendly to new players
« on: April 05, 2013, 03:11:51 pm »
It is very nice to back up your arguments with examples, but don't you think your examples are just slightly far fetched? of course a 100 speed 48 cut danish would give to much of an edge over skill.
But the question is do the looms give to much over skill? if they would give + 5 speed and 8 damage that would be yes and iirc it was like that in the past, it was toned down. Now what is it? +3 damage and +1 speed? You are telling us that gives to much of an edge on skill? I don't think so, I'm very sure you give me an adequate build and a mw polearm, you would still hand my ass over in duels. Maybe once or twice i would get a crit in making you very close too lose but in no case its going to change the whole game around.
Another very important thing you don't take in account, damage randomisation, i will take an examples, you like those. A cav rides past me, i throw him my Mw throwing lance, i dont one hit him. Next round i have a basic throwing lance i found of a dead body, use it on the same cav guy, i one shot while he rides away. WTF?
I also tried some time ago with royanss the damage in between mw jarids and normal one. the damage i did with mw where sometimes lower then normal jarids.
So what does it really change? Well maybe you will be able to finish off an enemy instead of leaving him at 5 hp. I really do believe you are over exagerating the problem.
Some classes really need, A HA with looms can become pretty decent, some need it less, archers with double loomed items that hit far ahrder then a normal archer. Hopliting with a throwing spear is like the day and the night. with a normal lance its glancefest, with a mw i can perform well. You could hoplite very well without a loomed throwing lance. Skilled players can actually live without looms, even i manage to eprform well sometimes with unloomed gear.
The only problem is, you think that the pro loom side is full off retard that understand nothing at game balancing, you are not willing to see our side and this is why this conversation is going nowhere i understand that looms in some cases can get out of hand , If we would have had this thread in the pst where looms gave + insane speed + insane damage i would have totaly agreed with you.
final word : devs dont plan of withdrawing looms , so no point talking about it
But the question is do the looms give to much over skill? if they would give + 5 speed and 8 damage that would be yes and iirc it was like that in the past, it was toned down. Now what is it? +3 damage and +1 speed? You are telling us that gives to much of an edge on skill? I don't think so, I'm very sure you give me an adequate build and a mw polearm, you would still hand my ass over in duels. Maybe once or twice i would get a crit in making you very close too lose but in no case its going to change the whole game around.
Another very important thing you don't take in account, damage randomisation, i will take an examples, you like those. A cav rides past me, i throw him my Mw throwing lance, i dont one hit him. Next round i have a basic throwing lance i found of a dead body, use it on the same cav guy, i one shot while he rides away. WTF?
I also tried some time ago with royanss the damage in between mw jarids and normal one. the damage i did with mw where sometimes lower then normal jarids.
So what does it really change? Well maybe you will be able to finish off an enemy instead of leaving him at 5 hp. I really do believe you are over exagerating the problem.
Some classes really need, A HA with looms can become pretty decent, some need it less, archers with double loomed items that hit far ahrder then a normal archer. Hopliting with a throwing spear is like the day and the night. with a normal lance its glancefest, with a mw i can perform well. You could hoplite very well without a loomed throwing lance. Skilled players can actually live without looms, even i manage to eprform well sometimes with unloomed gear.
The only problem is, you think that the pro loom side is full off retard that understand nothing at game balancing, you are not willing to see our side and this is why this conversation is going nowhere i understand that looms in some cases can get out of hand , If we would have had this thread in the pst where looms gave + insane speed + insane damage i would have totaly agreed with you.
final word : devs dont plan of withdrawing looms , so no point talking about it
All the throwing nerfs are still stoopid and something has to be done to buff this beautifully annoying class!
