For the record, George has 8 bans, 5 of them this year alone.If you want to permaban for past history then permaban him for past history, stop thinking up ridiculous excuses
Just an FYI.
Mexican is a nationality, not a race. It's just like how bleeding heart librals call people who insult islam or another religion "racist". I see no racism in what he said and honestly I don't see why he was banned.
If he had said that he wished a bunch of chinks could invade mexico and kill all those dirty beaners - then yeah that would have been racist but he didn't say that.
Muted? Yeah sure that's fine. This is what any admin with half a brain cell would have done.
Banned? Are you retarded? banning someone for saying something that you don't like?
That admin that banned this guy needs his admin rights taken away.
+1 from me.
In context, what George said was pretty clearly meant as a joke, and you would have to be ridiculously thin-skinned to take it as anything other than that.If you want to permaban for past history then permaban him for past history, stop thinking up ridiculous excuses
Oh look, his buddy troll.Name a time I've trolled anyone over anything in the past month I've been back. Just wearing the FF tags doesn't automatically make me a huge troll, though I really don't take issue with people poking fun at and talking shit to some of the more thin-skinned people who play this game.
Oh look, his buddy troll.
Name a time I've trolled anyone over anything in the past month I've been back. Just wearing the FF tags doesn't automatically make me a huge troll, though I really don't take issue with people poking fun at and talking shit to some of the more thin-skinned people who play this game.
Actually, FF_JohnAdams is a respected player and one of the only FF members who hasn't trolled at all. You should refrain from flaming another person in this thread or don't post. This is an unban essay for myself, not a flame thread on players. If you can't contain yourself from doing so, I will report to you to a moderator.
How about kicking me every time I tried to shoot a week or so ago, interrupting my attack animation? I then turned around, drew an arrow in frustration and pointed it at you to give you the hint "Stop kicking me" and then accidently released (meant to hit RMB then release LMB, and ended up doing it the other way around) and blew you away. Still not sorry for that, but I sure as hell remember it. I remember a lot of complaints on TS about you griefing the entire server that night.You were aiming at the last guy alive on the enemy team, who was currently getting ganged by at least 2 people on our team with more on the way. If that's enough to troll the entire server, then I really don't know what to say. I was just fucking around, it's not as if the situation was super serious and I cost us the round.
Interrupting my attack animations is what I call trolling.
How about kicking me every time I tried to shoot a week or so ago, interrupting my attack animation? I then turned around, drew an arrow in frustration and pointed it at you to give you the hint "Stop kicking me" and then accidently released (meant to hit RMB then release LMB, and ended up doing it the other way around) and blew you away. Still not sorry for that, but I sure as hell remember it. I remember a lot of complaints on TS about you griefing the entire server that night.
Interrupting my attack animations is what I call trolling.
Your essay is rubbish, as I mentioned in my previous post.
As I said above, this is to comment on my ban, this is not a flame war and I hope the mods intervene if you continue otherwise.
Oh look, his buddy troll.
Essay was too hard to read with the gigantic paragraph at the end, and the altogether dry reading.
Also, George Washington was not a Republican.
The pedantry over whether it's bigotry or racism is really missing the point imo
I disagree. It's important because admins have not been enforcing bigotry. George Washington was not banned for racism, he was banned for bigotry(*).Racism is a type of bigotry, and afaik it's mostly left up to admin discretion what types of bigotry "count." I've seen mutes over homophobia and sexism before, and I'm sure there've been bans over the same and other types of bigotry. imo though, arguing this amounts to rules lawyering, which doesn't really get us anywhere. The real issue should be over whether admins judge potentially bigoted things in-context or in a vacuum. Obviously, if you were to just take what he said with no context at all, it would be extreme and bigoted to say the least, but in context it's pretty clearly not intended to be mean at all, just a (bad) joke.
So.... we're enforcing a no-bigotry rule now?
I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T smack down all forms of bigotry, but that means laying the 500-word essay ban on everyone who uses words like "retard", "my old friend" or talks about the people of any nation in a negative way. (I doubt I would have to search hard to find plenty of examples of anti-American bigotry that have gone unpunished, so why the sudden crackdown on someone who said something about Mexico?)
(* - actually, saying that all Mexicans should be killed to stop the drug trade isn't even bigotry, really. It's more like, I dunno, either a hyperbole or just a really extreme, bad idea. Maybe we're banning hyperboles and bad ideas now. I don't know. I mean I am certainly a cheerful spokesman when it comes to banning people and I'm not real sure I'd miss George Washington, who I mainly think of in terms of him trolling the game at various times in the past, but I'm not on board with this particular ban.)
Unbanned. I don't really care about quality so much as you taking the time to think about it for a second.im glad that you gave him, and all of us, the opportunity to think about the joke that he made
Also, George Washington was not a Republican.
Who claims that he is in this thread?
Hah what. I say he should write his OWN essay instead of just ripping the second search result from google.
http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/internet-racism/
OWNED HARD
8 bans, now copying an essay to get an easy unban.
Perma ban this fucker, clearly he hasn't learned shit.
Considering the fact that he did nothing wrong in the first place, I don't think there was a lesson to learn anyway. That is unless you see wanting the chinese to invade mexico to stop the drug cartel as a bad thing.
No one, it was merely an observation as I found his Avatar combined with his text underneath it to be humorous, as GW had notable differing ideals from that of the Republican Party.
Hah what. I say he should write his OWN essay instead of just ripping the second search result from google.
http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/internet-racism/
Actually republicanism has nothing to do with the republican party. Perhaps reading a book before insulting someone would help.Yes darling, I'll ignore all of the insults/ignorant statements I have seen you fling in the past, forgive me oh mighty one for making a mistake unlike you oh-perfect ATS masters and your personal gleaming reputation. I am so well and truly sorry for daring step out of line, will you ever forgive me kind sir? I beg of you to forgive my ignorance, and will clean your boots with my tongue and kiss your ring a thousand times if that is what it takes. I'll start reading more books sir, become more educated until I'm on the same level of the average Americ-oh wait...
Copied? Turn it into a permament key ban then. Forever.
you americans are so full of win :mrgreen:
Copied? Turn it into a permament key ban then. Forever.I would like to change my 4 to a 1.
Yes darling, I'll ignore all of the insults/ignorant statements I have seen you fling in the past, forgive me oh mighty one for making a mistake unlike you oh-perfect ATS masters and your personal gleaming reputation. I am so well and truly sorry for daring step out of line, will you ever forgive me kind sir? I beg of you to forgive my ignorance, and will clean your boots with my tongue and kiss your ring a thousand times if that is what it takes. I'll start reading more books sir, become more educated until I'm on the same level of the average Americ-oh wait...lmao, what does any of this have to do with what he said? you were talking about something you obviously don't know shit about and got called on it, and he was right to call you on it
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Well I always knew George to make good topics but this is really one for the history books! I'm going to abstain from my typical faux-rp posting style because there are a couple of things that need to be addressed.
Regarding Tears of Destiny's ( :lol: ) tirade of Anti-George Washington comments. I'd like to address Republicanism, and perhaps enlighten you just a touch. The Republicanism of the Founding Father is a separate entity from that which the modern Republican Party prescribes to. Republicanism of yore, as John Adams elegantly put it in 1787, is "a government, in which all men, rich and poor, magistrates and subjects, officers and people, masters and servants, the first citizen and the last, are equally subject to the laws." This information is available to you on the internet, for free, thanks to the sacrifices of loyal, honorable, and patriotic Americans. If you are an American and you are past the typical angsty high school phase I really do recommend you reconsider your stance on America. At the least, try to avoid spouting your unwanted opinions in other peoples unban topics in order to further some self-serving notion of authority in the CRPG Community.
To get to my main point, though, the CRPG community needs to settle down with its tireless witch hunt. George Washington is no worse a troll than the majority of members in this community. Sure, his jokes are crass and he's been known to round delay occasionally but honestly that does not warrant such an outburst of hatred. Now, as a standing believer in fundamental Republicanism, I agree with what John Adams famously wrote and I also believe that if you, the admins of CRPG, wish to treat George Washington so sternly than so should you treat everyone. If you choose to over-look other players transgressions on so many occasions than so should George Washington be treated. I'm not asking for much, just some consistency.
Don't let the vocal minority decide George Washington's fate, look to Republicanism for true equality and justice.
So your just going to gloss over the fact he just C/Ped a google search?he put exactly as much thought into his unban essay as kalam put into banning him for what would have been, at most, muteworthy if anyone else had said it. like i said, if y'all wanna ban him for past history just do that instead of making excuses. so far past ban history is literally the only reason anyone in here has come up with for keeping this ban in the first place
he put exactly as much thought into his unban essay as kalam put into banning him for what would have been, at most, muteworthy if anyone else had said it. like i said, if y'all wanna ban him for past history just do that instead of making excuses. so far past ban history is literally the only reason anyone in here has come up with for keeping this ban in the first place
Hah what. I say he should write his OWN essay instead of just ripping the second search result from google.OWNED HARD
http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2010/04/24/internet-racism/
8 bans, now copying an essay to get an easy unban.
Perma ban this fucker, clearly he hasn't learned shit.
PERMA BAN!He was unbanned *shrugs*
He was unbanned *shrugs*The fuck?
The fuck?
Feel free to look at page 2 where it was already decided. Unfortunately as much as you want me banned or persecuted for copy/pasting my essay (It took almost a week for someone to realize I didn't write my gardening forum experience personally), it makes no difference. I was unbanned and if you want to continually whine about it/post more to up your post count, feel free since it makes no difference. I will also be running for admin so I'll expect your support at the booths.
How about kicking me every time I tried to shoot a week or so ago, interrupting my attack animation? I then turned around, drew an arrow in frustration and pointed it at you to give you the hint "Stop kicking me" and then accidently released (meant to hit RMB then release LMB, and ended up doing it the other way around) and blew you away. Still not sorry for that, but I sure as hell remember it. I remember a lot of complaints on TS about you griefing the entire server that night.
So you are allowed to teamwound and get away with it but nobody else is? So glad you are not an admin anymore, you've got the mind of a child. Temper tantrums and all. I've read several essays in the last 15 minutes where your temper tantrums lead to a permaban where said players have done nothing warranting such measures. Not to mention me witnessing a banning like that last year I believe.