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Rangerbob:
This probably isn't the best place to post this but its the only place with I know the Siege admins will read it.  Anyhow I've got a suggestions on how we should admin the NA_Siege Server.  I noticed alot of the admins especially the new ones give alot of warnings but tend to enforce less.  I understand the rules are posted with what to do but they're too lenient and I think we need to step up our enforcement a bit. 

Spawn teamwounders which are pretty easy to detect so start with a temp ban.  Don't even warn them just temp ban them.  If they're teamwounding multiple people at spawn they obviously asshats and don't need to be warned.  If you seem them doing it again, whether its in 10 minutes, or 2 days later just perm ban them and send them to the forums.

For people who spam voice chat send a global warning out then mute on 2nd offense.  If they decide to troll admin chat you can kick them or temp ban them. 

Revenge tks or Leech rage tks start with a warning that they better cut it out or they're both getting kicked. Then if it happens again kick then followed by temp ban if they come back and troll.  I would keep an eye on the person that was tked because he's usually the start of the problem.  If that guy goes and bothers someone else you can start with a temp ban on them since he's probably been doing it for a while and you've already sent a warning.

For people who punch people or kick people while waiting for a siege tower or just bored, I generally ignore it unless someone complains about it in ichat.  Then go ahead and send a general warning out and start kicking people who don't listen.  If people kick others off ledges, warn them or automatically kick them depending on how you feel or if they're peasants trolling or people screwing around.

For afk leechers, I generally tell people just to qml them and get your multi.  Feel free to kick them but the problem will usually take care of itself.  I'd recommend show names cheat once in a while to look for ones that run off into the middle of nowhere or hide in buildings.  Those you can just warn and kick.  Be warned though this leads to alot more qml complaints.

For naked leechers start with a warning to get a weapon or join the fight.  I would then give them a 2nd warning and included in this warning is the next offense will lead to a kick.  Then kick with the next offense temp ban and last one perm ban.  The problem with naked leechers is they are a chronic problem.  Sometimes people just retire so you can cut them a little slack but for the ones you see leeching day after day feel free to temp ban after your warning or perm ban and send them to the forums.

The best way I have found for people who are abusing leech poll is if you get a complaint in ichat or global chat about someone leech polling people who are moving send a global warning.  If you get 3 complaints from different people about someone leech polling just kick or temp ban them depending on how you worded your warning.  I will sometimes warn that the next person who abuses leech poll gets a temp ban if I'm getting too many complaints at once.

For trollers just send a warning and mute them for 2nd offense.  Generally trollers will then start rage teamwounding or kicking people and I slap a temp ban on them if they've already been muted.

For trollers that complain about a kick ect, I'd cut them a little slack try to explain the reason for the kick and if they keep going and going or start raging slap a mute on them.

For construction sites I do a warning then a temp ban.  People who abuse construction sites will generally block ladders/ramps and mess up a whole round so it deserves a temp ban instead of a kick after the warning.

For ladderpaulting warn then temp ban if it leads to tks.  If they're just destroying ladders warn them and kick them on next offense.

For Racism warn people then start muting people.  If they leave and come back kick them followed by a temp ban if they keep raging.

If there is a post about a person on the forums with screenshots.  Depending on how bad the offense you can just admin chat "Please go to the NA(ATS) ban forums and answer the post about you" followed immediately by a temp ban or perm ban.

As a general rule of thumb, put a post on the forums for anyone you perm ban.  IE "Perm banned _____" and in the explanation give a reason.  This way they can come on and explain themselves/apologize and request an unban.

Earthdforce:
I'd also recommend having a text document or a list somewhere with people that you notice leeching and teamwounding and the like just so you don't forget their names.

Malaclypse:
I'm all for stepping up enforcement. My voice commands are largely ignored, it seems, though 90% of the time they are legitimate orders/warnings ("Defend the Gatehouse! Incoming enemies from behind! Hold!" "I am manning the siege tower! I need help at the siege tower!"). People tend not to pay attention when one dude is running around saying "Attack!" ten times in a row.

Why are construction sites blanket banned again? Aren't they working in full order now (destructable, 1 material = 1 material, etc)?

Rangerbob:
Yes but people abuse construction sites by stacking them on a ladder.  You get a group with multiple construction sites on a a single ladder/ramp and even though they're destructable you'll probably end up winning just because they can only have 1 person swing at it while getting shot by archers pikes and xbows.  It breaks the balance of the game and adds nothing other than pissing people off.  The way material works it'll take 3 minutes just build a healing tent. Only to have it break after 2 hits.

Nindur:
The rule list is a general guideline, all final decisions rest on the admins discretion. If you fuck up then your life rests on eckos discretion.

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