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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1170 on: May 02, 2018, 01:15:00 pm »
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Yes, it says that it's absolutely not "socially constructed". Especially when taken into account with other data.
That's not what it says at all. Unless you're only looking to apply the data to three month old babies, who also have other preferences that don't carry over into adulthood. This test's findings could well disappear, for example, if done on, say, a six year old that's seen plenty of people from other races and whose brains no longer categorize them as "unfamiliar."

It'd be just as silly to say that Caucasians hate trains because a three month old prefers their old, familiar car toy over a new train toy.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1171 on: May 02, 2018, 01:29:11 pm »
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Why do you think this somehow applies only to whites?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1172 on: May 02, 2018, 01:31:42 pm »
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Everything has been in so much in flux for the past 90 years however that you get huge differences between individuals and that's a much bigger issue than interracial prejudice. You basically have black people walking around with a face of a white person - like wolves in sheep's clothing.

Show me the stats for interracial couples having children over the past 90 years, even in the most brainwashed white western first world countries, and think real, real hard on if what you just said is in any way accurate to reality or just a "conclusion" you reached based entirely off your apriori stance. Imagine how fucking deluded you have to be to think places like Brasil aren't overwhelmingly more racist on a social level despite a much larger grey zone of interracial mixing.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1173 on: May 02, 2018, 01:36:29 pm »
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Why do you think this somehow applies only to whites?
Why do you think I think this somehow applies only to whites?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1174 on: May 02, 2018, 01:41:04 pm »
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Ok, so you are making the case that the same ingroup preference experiments cannot be replicated beyond the age of 3? Wtf do you think I meant by "additional data"?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1175 on: May 02, 2018, 01:46:08 pm »
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Ok, so you are making the case that the same ingroup preference experiments cannot be replicated beyond the age of 3? Wtf do you think I meant by "additional data"?
Nope, I'm making the case that the conclusions drawn by that person from that data are dumb.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1176 on: May 02, 2018, 01:47:51 pm »
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Because the entire article and its perspective on tribalism relied entirely on this one piece of data to build its entire case, of course.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1177 on: May 02, 2018, 01:51:31 pm »
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Because he literally claims that piece of data is "neuroscientists identifying tribalist instincts in the brains of newborns."
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1178 on: May 02, 2018, 02:01:09 pm »
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Because that's literally what it is? What would you call it?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1179 on: May 02, 2018, 02:07:23 pm »
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Maybe that's more to do with newborns barely being able to perceive and understand shapes, until, oh I dunno, a few months? No, it's totally a rhetorical killshot, eh my source contradicts the stance that tribalism is inborn and instinctual, gj Heskey. Still nothing to say about the thousands of white girl raped by inbred pakies, eh? Probably all liars, such a huge problem in the UK those horny lying white thots.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1180 on: May 02, 2018, 02:10:18 pm »
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Because that's literally what it is? What would you call it?
Three month old babies showing preference to familiar objects.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1181 on: May 02, 2018, 02:11:55 pm »
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So if I were to make the case that male and female children gravitate towards different sort of toys very early on in life, would you say that this is due entirely to the social conditioning they've taken from their parents? After all, this happens way beyond the age of 3 months, a period which you ascertain is more than enough time for socialization of mores to take effect.
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1182 on: May 02, 2018, 02:14:36 pm »
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So if I were to make the case that male and female children gravitate towards different sort of toys very early on in life, would you say that this is due entirely to the social conditioning they've taken from their parents? After all, this happens way beyond the age of 3 months, a period which you ascertain is more than enough time for socialization of mores to take effect.
Why are you talking about social conditioning and toys?
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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1183 on: May 02, 2018, 02:15:13 pm »
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Oh there you go, I prove yet again I can't be bothered to read articles.

So if I were to make the case that male and female children gravitate towards different sort of toys very early on in life, would you say that this is due entirely to the social conditioning they've taken from their parents? After all, this happens way beyond the age of 3 months, a period which you ascertain is more than enough time for socialization of mores to take effect.

https://www.math.kth.se/matstat/gru/5b1501/F/sex.pdf

Not a fair comparison imo

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Re: Am I racist? 2.0
« Reply #1184 on: May 02, 2018, 02:18:45 pm »
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Are you willing to entertain the idea that this ingroup preference expressed so early on (and throughout life, as other studies have shown) is partly instinctual, or is it entirely a learned expression (i.e socially conditioned)? This is one data point on a long, long list. Not sure why you're autistically focused on it.
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