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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #30 on: December 17, 2013, 06:37:54 pm »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2013, 06:42:27 pm »
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Well. Me personally, I'm both an Xbow user and a shielder at the same time. I can counter ranged, cav and have slight melee capabilities. But my main focus in battles is always and ALWAYS shooting down cav and other ranged. If other ranged spot me, I raise my shield and find a spot in cover to reload.

1 thing that tend to counter archers (and pure xbowers) are rondel-users with a shield and TONS of agi/athletics (like Bumbo_Jones)

*Edit* Also most types of cav (especially high armored horses and shield users) can really hunt down enemy ranged.

*Edit2* Also, this is my PERSONAL opinion. other people might have different experiences.
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2013, 06:43:28 pm »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2013, 06:54:35 pm »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #34 on: December 17, 2013, 07:38:01 pm »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #35 on: December 17, 2013, 07:40:08 pm »
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IF i could block, it would only be cav. Seeing as though I can't block it's agi shielders and cav.

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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2013, 07:41:50 pm »
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Didn't read the thread so sorry if these have been suggested:

1. Bring back old lance angle and melee cav can kill HA's more easily. Right now it's too easy for HA's to avoid enemy cav since most are 1h cav and the remaining lance cav are gimped. You just end up rearing you horse too often when going for HA's and then dehorsed. Old lance angle would also reduce the amount of cav on servers because it would actually be fun as a cavalry to attack other cavalry, instead of avoiding them and going for infantry backstabs. Downside is that remaining cav would be more effective vs infantry.

2. Also nerf the amount of arrows they can carry or at least make it so they can't pick up arrows. Right now it's just spray and pray unlimited ammo gg.

3. Increase the armor/hp of non-armored horses so they can take more than 2 arrows when chasing HA's.
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #37 on: December 17, 2013, 07:47:37 pm »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #38 on: December 17, 2013, 07:56:34 pm »
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I think ranged is the best counter to ranged.

If more people played ranged we would not have this percieved problem with too much ranged.

Im definately thinking about starting to play ranged to deal with all this ranged, i think it will seriously change the situation.

Soon i will respec into ranged, soon.

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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #39 on: December 17, 2013, 09:19:22 pm »
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1H cav has always been my weakness. If they catch you spawning late or alone, they are like flies on shit and will not leave you alone. It puts us both out of the whole game. Archers that focus on other archers is a close second.
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2013, 03:11:54 am »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2013, 03:38:04 am »
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2013, 03:50:46 am »
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In my experience of siege, there are many corners to come around and much cover, thus ranged is more or less on par with melee. In DTV, ranged is only a problem on later waves of big open maps (which don't exist anymore). Now in battle.. it depends on the map. If it is a town or village, it's akin to siege, but when it comes to plains, forests, fields, deserts, etc. I put my faith in the shield as the best concrete counter to ranged.

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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #43 on: December 18, 2013, 04:06:42 am »
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<3 u

^^ .. well , we are just far too few.

if ht's like you, make, torost, pot, disney, rohyp & such other's would stick together in same team ... there were no arrows flying anymore.

(sry if i forgot a namely ht .. i know , there's a handful more nice ht's out there.)
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Re: Ranged, what counters you best?
« Reply #44 on: December 18, 2013, 04:12:26 am »
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^^ .. well , we are just far too few.

if ht's like you, make, torost, pot, disney, rohyp & such other's would stick together in same team ... there were no arrows flying anymore.

(sry if i forgot a namely ht .. i know , there's a handful more nice ht's out there.)
You forgot the five other Braxlis than you.
1H stab is the fastest, strongest and longest 1H animation. There's no reason NOT to use it in all instances. I don't know if it's OP, but it's boring. 1H used to be fun because you had a fast (left), long (right) and the most devastating attack (stab) and had to choose the best attack for each occasion.