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Now with added NA!
« on: September 09, 2013, 01:18:36 am »
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I continued on from what I was doing here - http://forum.melee.org/diplomacy/war-on-apostates/msg856166/#msg856166

For those that can't be bothered reading the other thread.  All I have done is add each factions current troops to their expended troops and then calculated expended troops as a percentage of that total to give a score.

Included in the table are all existing land owning clans that have a total troop count (current + lost) of at least 5000.  Where clans have simply changed names I have attempted to find and add in their old losses as well for continuity.  Where more complicated diplomatic crap has occurred I have simply ignored it :D

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Note: Take this with a pinch of salt as the numbers don't take into account any kind of circumstances whatsoever :D

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2013, 01:27:35 am »
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69%..... That's all I care about.
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2013, 01:28:25 am »
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Vermilion is 1 l not 2 :)

It's very important you get that right.. I'm a very big influence in the outcomes on strat!!!


Nice chart btw

One thing though.. As a percentage of troop usage wouldn't you need to take into account fief garrison
(Each fief needs to be protected therefore the more fiefs you have the greater the number of 'unused' troops needs to be).

Say for example 1000 troops for a village, 3000 of a castle and 5000 for a town are troops which are currently being used to protect against invasion. (any troops above this level are the 'excess' troops which could be used for battle etc)
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2013, 01:45:20 am »
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I don't understand how a score is a score.  What I do know, however, is I like pie charts.
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2013, 01:46:55 am »
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It's basically how many troops you have / troops you have lost
We're all nerds here, so it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #5 on: September 09, 2013, 01:52:19 am »
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Well, at least we're leading strat in something, lol
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2013, 01:57:40 am »
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It's basically how many troops you have / troops you have lost

No - it is how many troops_you_have_lost / troops_you_have_or_have_had

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2013, 02:00:24 am »
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Frisia has performed exactly as I would have desired.

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2013, 02:03:22 am »
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One thing though.. As a percentage of troop usage wouldn't you need to take into account fief garrison
(Each fief needs to be protected therefore the more fiefs you have the greater the number of 'unused' troops needs to be).

Say for example 1000 troops for a village, 3000 of a castle and 5000 for a town are troops which are currently being used to protect against invasion. (any troops above this level are the 'excess' troops which could be used for battle etc)

I experimented with that but that is affected too much by current circumstances.  For example right now FCC and Apostates have an unnaturally large number of troops per fief because they are on the defensive.  In a week/month/whatever the situation could have completely changed making any score i create today completely out dated.  The simple troops_lost / total_troops calculation takes into account the past though and so is more accurate (relatively speaking ofc  :wink:).

What I really want to do is renown / total_troops where renown is calculated based on each army's gear used and not just on the total gear used in battle.  That would actually give some informative data.

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2013, 02:51:05 am »
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So wait.. you want a larger number? So hospitallers has the worst lost to total ratio, therefore making them the least effective clan in strategus?
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2013, 03:26:16 am »
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FCC has lost more troops than any other faction EU or NA. yeesh! all that xp! delicious xp!

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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2013, 03:44:33 am »
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So wait.. you want a larger number? So hospitallers has the worst lost to total ratio, therefore making them the least effective clan in strategus?

Or the faction that turtles the least.

Anyways pretty sure were only on top because of our assaults on ichamur.
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2013, 03:48:21 am »
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Or the faction that turtles the least.

Anyways pretty sure were only on top because of our assaults on ichamur.

A lot of it was when you got gang-fucked by us, FCC, Dracul, and Raven back in the day.

Yeah, a lot of it had to do with all parties involved in the dicking end tried really hard and had many more active strat-minded members, but it was a gang-fuck nonetheless.
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2013, 03:50:23 am »
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Or the faction that turtles the least.

Anyways pretty sure were only on top because of our assaults on ichamur.

Pretty sure you turtled plenty, but you got shit on when you did.  I'm not saying that to be an edgy troll or anything, but basically what Sandy is saying.

The "score" in this thread is completely pointless.
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Re: Now with added NA!
« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2013, 04:59:18 am »
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I don't understand how a score is a score.  What I do know, however, is I like pie.

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