Nighttime Feedback Required

[Tomas]

We'd like some feedback on the following nighttime system especially if you think it is exploitable.

1) You can set up to 18 hours of nighttime:
2) You cannot reinforce or send troops or equipment during your nighttime.
3) You cannot receive reinforcements when you are the attacking army during nighttime.
4) There is a penalty associated with your nighttime equal to 2*#hours - 16 (eg 10 hours of nighttime would be 4%)
5) The penalty only occurs during your nighttime and reduces income, increases troops costs, reduces movement speed, reduces recruitment rate
6) It takes 1 week for a new nighttime setting to come into effect and there is a further week long cooldown before it can be changed again.

[chadz]

Hi,

It's signed,

I can only approved.

chadz

[DaveUKR]

1) Have a Russian clan.
2) Have alternative cd-key/s which is/are accessed via proxy/virtual machine (IMPOSSIBRU to track, everyone can have access).
3) Set nighttime for your 3-9 PM.
4) Have the rest of the clan with 0 night time living without penalties inside fiefs.
5) Pile all the troops/gold/equip on that cd-key from active clanmembers when it's needed.
6) Move on the map like a boss because the closest timezone of Russia has 4 hours difference to London time.
7) If you got attack - fight in the evening while the rest are fighting during working/studying time.

The same can be done to Russian clans aswell, so they will have to fight at their night.

What I suggest - make it so that you will lose 1 minute of nighttime for each 2 troops you have. So big army with 2160 will have no night time at all (or the minimum amount, let's say these 6 hours)

[Tomas]

Another suggestion has come up for your feedback

1)  All Fiefs Owners can set their fief's nighttime
2)  At most this can be 14 hours
3)  All battles within the fief's zone of control will be subject to the fief's nighttime
4)  Nighttimes will be public knowledge for everybody at all times
5)  Changing Nighttime takes 1 week with a further weeks cooldown
6)  Their is a tax penalty associated with nightime equal to 2*#hours - 16  (So 12 hour nighttime means a loss of 8% of a fiefs income through tax)
7)  Exception: Players will still have their own 18 hour nighttimes but they will only be used if the the 2 parties day times overlap.  In this case the battle will be during the overlap.
8)  If you attack AI partys, your own daytime will be used as well

[Lt_Anders]

18 hours of night time seems dumb. I'd rather just keep the 8 and make it simple.
K.I.S.S. please.

[Hobb]

That sounds amazing it really does. This will also deter eu vs na wars


I think the only possible problem is that with the new smaller armies system, you could have more than 6 medium battles in a primetime

[Bjarky]

3)  All battles within the fief's zone of control will be subject to the fief's nighttime

having to consider 2 different nighttimes (player and fief zones) will start to become to tedious, even though this will be publicly known, its in my opion already enough to deal with people's nightimes.
lets not make it to complex for warparties, bandits etc.

[Knute]

I like this 18 hour nighttime idea, no more battles in the middle of the night or during the work day would be a good thing.  Some people will undoubtedly set their nighttimes so you can only attack them from 1am-7am though. 

How far out would a fief's zone of control extend?

[Braeden]

Some people will undoubtedly set their nighttimes so you can only attack them from 1am-7am though. 

Quoted For Truth.

Though actually I think 4 am to 12 pm would be worse.

[Tanken]

Don't like it. Put NA and EU on separate maps.

[FRANK_THE_TANK]

We'd like some feedback on the following nighttime system especially if you think it is exploitable.

1) You can set up to 18 hours of nighttime:
2) You cannot reinforce or send troops or equipment during your nighttime.
3) You cannot receive reinforcements when you are the attacking army during nighttime.
4) There is a penalty associated with your nighttime equal to 2*#hours - 16 (eg 10 hours of nighttime would be 4%)
5) The penalty only occurs during your nighttime and reduces income, increases troops costs, reduces movement speed, reduces recruitment rate
6) It takes 1 week for a new nighttime setting to come into effect and there is a further week long cooldown before it can be changed again.

I think you should only be able to use the night time system for fiefs, and not for armies in the field. You get attacked, tough titties you didn't do enough recon suck it up.

But I like the idea's in 2,3,4 and 5 so how about having a night time in EU and NA and have it set by the server, could make for some interesting planing. Bouncing from fief to fief to avoid the night time penalties and so on.

The only thing that I can think of atm as a negative would be people would hover on the board crossing from side to side to avoid the penalty so the invisible board would be come a trade run/bandit hot spot. Unless of course you use Knute's three kingdoms idea...

In fact! While I'm on the whole screw people having there own night time setting why not have EU/NA prime times set as the default period of attack for fiefs... Starts at 1800PST - 2200PST for the yanks and 1800GMT - 2200GMT for the filthy Eurotrash. Simple, problem as they say in some English speaking locals, solved.

[Turkhammer]

T.F.C. Too Fucking Complicated. 
What is the problem with the current system that chadz is trying to correct?

[chadz]

What is the problem with the current system that chadz is trying to correct?

Seriously?

I mean, seriously?

[Turkhammer]

Seriously?

I mean, seriously?

Yeah, I'm not as familiar with Strat details as some may be.  So in the time it took to compose your reply you could have seriously answered my serious question.

[Vovka]

1) You can set up to 18 hours of nighttime:
2) You cannot reinforce or send troops or equipment during your nighttime.
3) You cannot receive reinforcements when you are the attacking army during nighttime.
4) There is a penalty associated with your nighttime equal to 2*#hours - 16 (eg 10 hours of nighttime would be 4%)
5) The penalty only occurs during your nighttime and reduces income, increases troops costs, reduces movement speed, reduces recruitment rate
6) It takes 1 week for a new nighttime setting to come into effect and there is a further week long cooldown before it can be changed again.

18 h nightime for ALL fraction fiefs only which can only set member with 10 rank and with 1 week cooldonw