- I have never seen anyone successfully pull off a counter-nudge.
Happens quite often.Sure, like in december 2010.
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- Nudge is broken; it removes your block whilst you're moving, and it is very easy to hit a nudge whilst you're moving.
- Unlike kick, which takes some skill.
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- It's so fast that counter-nudge is almost impossible.
- I have never seen anyone successfully pull off a counter-nudge.
- Literally not once.
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- If you're in a 2v1 against people who nudge spam, it's almost impossible to win. So in 2v1 if both players spam it, as a shielder you may as well drop your weapons and give up.
- If someone spams it in a 1v1, it slows the fight down to an absolute crawl. This means someone can delay a fight almost infinitely until teammates arrive.
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- There's a graphical glitch with the shield nudge whilst not blocking, where if you attack immediately afterwards half the animation doesn't show, meaning a 100wpf attack looks like a 170wpf attack, which certain players are abusing.
- If you put a 2h sword away, do a nudge with your fists and then you get a free hit. This is not difficult, and i've seen quite a few 2h do this to rack up lots of free kills lately.
- An absolutely ridiculous number of my deaths (and the number is growing by the day) are now to this win-button, which is honestly making me not want to play, as i'm sure it is to others.
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- Nudge is broken; it removes your block whilst you're moving, and it is very easy to hit a nudge whilst you're moving.
- Unlike kick, which takes some skill.
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- It's so fast that counter-nudge is almost impossible.
- I have never seen anyone successfully pull off a counter-nudge.
- Literally not once.
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- If you're in a 2v1 against people who nudge spam, it's almost impossible to win. So in 2v1 if both players spam it, as a shielder you may as well drop your weapons and give up.
- If someone spams it in a 1v1, it slows the fight down to an absolute crawl. This means someone can delay a fight almost infinitely until teammates arrive.
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- There's a graphical glitch with the shield nudge whilst not blocking, where if you attack immediately afterwards half the animation doesn't show, meaning a 100wpf attack looks like a 170wpf attack, which certain players are abusing.
- If you put a 2h sword away, do a nudge with your fists and then you get a free hit. This is not difficult, and i've seen quite a few 2h do this to rack up lots of free kills lately.
- An absolutely ridiculous number of my deaths (and the number is growing by the day) are now to this win-button, which is honestly making me not want to play, as i'm sure it is to others.
You guys fucking disgust me.
Corsair survived a brutal gangnudge and what do you fuckers do? You shame him. Nudging causes huge physical aswell as emotional damage and it has undoubtably scarred Corsair for life, but do you people show sympathy, no, of course not. You fuckbags downplay the thread with your abhorent "jokes".
I think i love Corsair and if i had the opportunity i would lick his sweaty balls and put his little penis in my ear nom nom nom.
Corsair's life will never be the same once i have played with his balls. Do you think his buddies in vanguards will invite him to their ERPs ever again knowing his loose sluthole has been nudged by every dude on the server including me with my penis?
I stand with Corsair on this
#REMOVENUDGE
#MOOFORCORSAIR
#MOOTOO
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There's a graphical glitch with the shield nudge whilst not blocking, where if you attack immediately afterwards half the animation doesn't show
Happens quite often.
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- Nudge is broken; it removes your block whilst you're moving, and it is very easy to hit a nudge whilst you're moving.
- Unlike kick, which takes some skill.
-
- It's so fast that counter-nudge is almost impossible.
- I have never seen anyone successfully pull off a counter-nudge.
- Literally not once.
-
- If you're in a 2v1 against people who nudge spam, it's almost impossible to win. So in 2v1 if both players spam it, as a shielder you may as well drop your weapons and give up.
- If someone spams it in a 1v1, it slows the fight down to an absolute crawl. This means someone can delay a fight almost infinitely until teammates arrive.
-
- There's a graphical glitch with the shield nudge whilst not blocking, where if you attack immediately afterwards half the animation doesn't show, meaning a 100wpf attack looks like a 170wpf attack, which certain players are abusing.
- If you put a 2h sword away, do a nudge with your fists and then you get a free hit. This is not difficult, and i've seen quite a few 2h do this to rack up lots of free kills lately.
- An absolutely ridiculous number of my deaths (and the number is growing by the day) are now to this win-button, which is honestly making me not want to play, as i'm sure it is to others.
I am glad to have your support in this Bugnir, it really means a lotnudges do not guarantee a free hit in any way. as a swashbuckler and common user of the nudge key, it is very easy to counter a nudge as long as you're not retarded and have some form of reaction time
njames89, 1%? 0.05%?
San, i don't want to contribute to the game being broken and unfun for other people
nudges do not guarantee a free hit in any way. as a swashbuckler and common user of the nudge key, it is very easy to counter a nudge as long as you're not retarded and have some form of reaction timeNudges aren't broken, but the animations are a bit iffy when you attack after a nudge. It skips some of the animation which makes it much more difficult to block than just a normal swing. Nudging has actually become a core part of fighting now, particularly with Maulers. Nudge someone then attack overhead, crushes through and is very difficult to counter
in no way is the nudge broken, its so easy to counter-nudge or just back up and get a free hit on the person nudging
Happens quite often.
You get hit by this a lot because you have the most predictable playstyle of all. Its great that you can distract and survive for minutes versus some people, but just holding S and right click without method should have some kind of quick kill counter, outside of having to carry an axe.
I can say confidently that it doesn't, as a person that uses nudges more often than anyone I've seen in NA.
I only use free nudges though hurr durr
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and am usually very aggressive (attack as often as i can)ahahahaahahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahaaahhahaahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahaahaahahhaahahahahaahahahaa
Happens almost every time I play. Considering that not every player uses nudges I would say that is pretty often.
I thought counter nudge meant the one that knocks down?
Knockdown occurs when you nudge someone that is jumping away
that happens like never.
Again happens fairly consistently for me. Might not happen for your playstyle but definitely something that I see often enough.
Knockdown occurs when you nudge someone that is jumping away
Also happens when you use a specific nudge to counter another one. Not sure the rock paper scissors, but i think its neutral beats attack nudge, attack nudge beats blocking nudge, blocking nudge beats neutral nudge... meaning they knock down when countered properly.
Interesting I didn't know this
Ok I've actually changed my mind, after getting nudged from behind a shield I was unable to block without actually performing any action other than blocking with my shield.
(I blocked, held it, got nudged, and COULDN'T block before they swung)
Something sounds wrong with nudging to me lol. That shouldn't be possible.
Edit: Apparently that is a feature, however in the 5 years I've played the game not once has it ever happened to me.
Exchange nudge with obscene gestures?
Nudge code is retarded though. Doubt anyone wants to touch it.
ye pls remove one of cRPG's most unique functions because one is not able to survive 2 hits with the trashy build and the cheapes cloths he wears.
If you wear clothes youre supposed to be either super fast or a glass cannon. But both end up as cannon fudder for others,
Nudge isn't broken and it adds a little bit more flavour to combat, the problem isn't even close to being as bad as you make out. My main is a hoplite and very very very rarely do I die to nudges, in fact very few people use them effectively or regularly enough to make it annoying, even if someone does get a decent nudge on me I can normally get my block up in time and if I can't, then kudos to them for fucking me up.
While warband/ cRPG doesn't try to be overly realistic if you think that irl 2 people vs 1 guy using a shield wouldn't try to get that shield off him by grabbing it or punching him in the face then you are plain wrong. At the moment you are plain inviting people to nudge you into oblivion because of the way you hold RMB and back away as opposed to swinging your sword like a mad fucker. As others have already suggested, your main playstyle is 1h/ shield thus giving you the most options for nudges, don't cry because you are not utilizing them effectively because it is a lot easier do than kicking. Lastly, it is poor build choice for a pure melee shielder to be dying in 1 hit.
To address your argument about it being un-counterable; so is HA for the normal infantryman, so is a group of 3 or more archers/ xbow, so is being ganked by 20 kill hungry lowlifes, so is being kicked... There are numerous things that will result in you getting your ass handed to you, that is cRPG.
It's not about the armour, it's about something being un-counterable
idgaf that its "uncounterable" because I actually can counter nudge (sometimes), and even if I get hit I couldnt give less damns about it because my 11IF and 64h 79b 74l set doesnt agree with your opinion.(click to show/hide)
52h 53b 50l with 3 IF isn't particularly stronk armour. My point stands.
idgaf that its "uncounterable" because I actually can counter nudge (sometimes), and even if I get hit I couldnt give less damns about it because my 11IF and 64h 79b 74l set doesnt agree with your opinion.yeah must admit agi builds are basically trash, playing a 36/3 Wakizashi 1h user and am utterly ruining people in combat lol, I hit someone in the head with it and took half their health off, and he was wearing a fairly heavy head armour.(click to show/hide)
If AGI builds are trash that means this mod is finally somewhat balanced because idea of 24+ AGI builds is retarded from the get go and only exist in cRPG and bad copycats of cRPG.I don't know if you're responding to me but I'm not complaining, just saying that in the current game state (Game flooded with nothing but ranged) - STR builds are blatantly more strong and more viable than any agi based build at present.
Corsairs teammate JackieChan can give him a few hints which build and armour type to choose for 1h shielder. Certainly not gay ass 15/24 build wearing 30 something body armor.
Those who chose to wear nothing get no right to complain about being one hit. It is matter of choice and depending of build, a way to gimp yourself like Kastu did in the past. You do it to have fun, not to complain like a twat when somebody beat you.
If AGI builds are trash that means this mod is finally somewhat balanced because idea of 24+ AGI builds is retarded from the get go and only exist in cRPG and bad copycats of cRPG.
Corsairs teammate JackieChan can give him a few hints which build and armour type to choose for 1h shielder. Certainly not gay ass 15/24 build wearing 30 something body armor.
Those who chose to wear nothing get no right to complain about being one hit. It is matter of choice and depending of build, a way to gimp yourself like Kastu did in the past. You do it to have fun, not to complain like a twat when somebody beat you.
Don't care about dieing im 1 hit if it's fair. Do care if someone just walks up to you and presses v and you instantly die, completely negating any skill or the combat system in the game
So you don't mind if someone presses E and insta kills you, but V!!!!
God forbid someone should press the mighty V key and subsequently break the earths crust with a punch comparable to the power of 20 Nuclear warheads, utterly destroying your shield and your ability to block.
20 nuclear warheads or a sword, v or e, still utterly destroys your shield and your ability to block, negating the combat systems in the game and any skill
Because shields are generally in the same context as skill? You like to say that people should get a shield and learn how to use it to fight ranged when they say its impossible, yet you are now saying that there is no way to fight nudges when everyone else has the opposing view, seems rather logically inconsistent.