Can any German confirm this?
Can any German confirm this?
Well, the narrative is different here.
Most report that there simply was a big crowd and an estimated group of 15 people used that big crowd to rob people.
Sexual harassment was used to distract people from the intended robbery.
Too busy pre-heating the ovens.
And prepping the railways.You wouldn't believe the amount of people hinting like this on Facebook all day....
To be honest the Germans deserve everything that will fall upon them.
They opened their borders, they spread their legs and now they are waiting to receive the muslim dick.
And all of that because of the guilt of what happened 75+ years ago.
Also fuck the German government for aiding the Turks, and leaving Greece to "fight" the refugee crisis all alone.
Well, the narrative is different here.Oberyn already commented about it on the other thread, but that's the most retarded thing ever. Yeah, just as a distraction, of course. It's not like those people are known for sexual harassment otherwise... it's not like they're 20x more represented in rape statistics than others (and if rape is 20x, imagine what the sexual harassment numbers are like)... and that's the non-immigrants, no one even knows what the stats are like for immigrants, probably 100x at least come summer.
Most report that there simply was a big crowd and an estimated group of 15 people used that big crowd to rob people.
Sexual harassment was used to distract people from the intended robbery.
Well, the narrative is different here.
Most report that there simply was a big crowd and an estimated group of 15 people used that big crowd to rob people.
Sexual harassment was used to distract people from the intended robbery.
You wouldn't believe the amount of people hinting like this on Facebook all day....Ahaha good ol' Germoney :lol:
https://www.youtube.com/v/-3MvinY66r0What a despicable little cockroach.
https://www.youtube.com/v/-3MvinY66r0
So, massive crime of all sorts (abuse, rape, robbing, stealing, car theft, drug dealing and the list can go on) that are proven to be carried out all over Germany for years and years by north african and arab groups and individuals especially in Berlin, Cologne, Dortmund, Duisburg, Essen and other Ruhr area cities, while those people of 'muslim origin' are still only a minority measured at the total population, are producing "diffuse" fears? It's more like they produce justified fears.There really is no point in discussing, Amen.
But whatever, I just wanted to make sure to read what the normal minded people and stupid leftist like you write here, not interested in a discussion, as it is pointless anyway. There are people that use their brain and people that don't, one can not force people to think and go through the world with open eyes.
Zivilisiert zu sein bedeutet, nacheinander neun Schwarzhaarigen zu begegnen, die sich alle als Arschlöcher erweisen, und trotzdem dem zehnten Schwarzhaarigen nicht deshalb in die Fresse zu hauen. Es gibt nicht den einen Auslöser, nach dem Rassismus plötzlich okay ist. Wer angesichts der Kölner Attacken überlegt, ob rassistische Verallgemeinerungen vielleicht doch okay sind, war schon vorher Rassist und hat sich bloß nicht getraut, das zu kommunizieren.
Hate would be the most honest feeling. And the most rational.Yes, well, a lot of feminists and other -ists would say "stop using rapes to justify your racism" and "we women don't need men to protect us, stop treating us like we're weak." Those are the two common responses in "anti-racism" groups to migrant/arab rapes and white men showing their outrage.
Found something to read for Warlord. I dare you to actually read it!People are in the face of very real aggression arguing for active, rational border control and for our governments to effectively enforce the law among this over-represented element of our criminal statistics. Hardly radical, and hardly controversial. I would say sensible.
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/koeln-silvester-mob-und-gegenmob-kolumne-a-1070724.html
And my favourite part as quote:
But that's Lügenpresse, right? All lies and slander!!1!
Yes, well, a lot of feminists and other -ists would say "stop using rapes to justify your racism" and "we women don't need men to protect us, stop treating us like we're weak." Those are the two common responses in "anti-racism" groups to migrant/arab rapes and white men showing their outrage.I'm glad I don't read social media.
But, if the public reaction to incidents such as this was proportional or rational* in the first place, would government or the media feel the need to babysit the public by skirting around certain things that they know will cause a shitstorm immediately in the heat of the moment once reported? Even with all the freedom of speech in the world a government at least has a responsibility to it's people to try and not incite pointless violence.
3 pages only? Come on guys, I want more.
Remarkably, Heskey manages to make a point not completely devoid of any informational content:
Personally I feel that this paternalist attitude does far more harm than good. Violence is "incited" (whatever that means) regardless, and people are going to fill in the blanks, considering that it must be the most interesting recent piece of news in a lot of European countries.
At least we have Rico prepped up for the kristallnacht. I'm torn on Warlord, although I feel he's not saying everything either.
I honestly don't know/understand what that means. Explain please?
i don't understand where this discussion is goingme neither
I don't know if you're prepping up for the kristallnacht as well.
But, if the public reaction to incidents such as this was proportional or rational* in the first place, would government or the media feel the need to babysit the public by skirting around certain things that they know will cause a shitstorm immediately in the heat of the moment once reported? Even with all the freedom of speech in the world a government at least has a responsibility to it's people to try and not incite pointless violence.Like Kafein, I think this does far more harm than good. If the media and politicians had a proportional and rational approach I'd likely be saying the opposite things. Right now "rational and proportional" just gets ignored by both sides, and in fact you can't even start discussing what's proportional because the facts are being hidden and manipulated. It sucks that a lot of good people of Arab and other foreign descent are going to suffer as a consequence (and I'd stop skinheads from attacking an innocent Arab just like I'd stop Arabs from raping a girl), but the counter-reaction to overblown secretiveness is going to be just as overblown, only in the opposite direction.
Disgusting. But mostly it makes me very, very sad.
the longer it goes on without any real solution, the bigger hi.tler will get elected.Yep, someone will eventually get elected because of his anti-foreigner rhetoric.
Danish People's Party's stated goals are to protect the freedom and cultural heritage of the Danish people, including the family, the Monarchy and the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark, to enforce a strict rule of law, to work against Denmark becoming a multi-ethnic society by limiting immigration and promoting cultural assimilation of admitted immigrants, to maintain a strong welfare system for those in need, and to promote entrepreneurship and economic growth by strengthening education and encouraging people to work, and to protect the environment and natural resources.
The Farmer and the Snake
ONE WINTER a Farmer found a Snake stiff and frozen with cold. He had compassion on it, and taking it up, placed it in his bosom. The Snake was quickly revived by the warmth, and resuming its natural instincts, bit its benefactor, inflicting on him a mortal wound. "Oh," cried the Farmer with his last breath, "I am rightly served for pitying a scoundrel."
The greatest kindness will not bind the ungrateful.
At least we have Rico prepped up for the kristallnacht.well yeah, if trying not to get soaked into extremism neither by chocolate chip cookies nor islamists counts as preparation, i guess i am prepared
[...]You are a racist, no matter who you fuck.
So sorry to dissapoint you, but especially Molly. Warlord eventually marrying into a family of immigrants/non-germans :P :D :mrgreen:
Like Kafein, I think this does far more harm than good. If the media and politicians had a proportional and rational approach I'd likely be saying the opposite things. Right now "rational and proportional" just gets ignored by both sides, and in fact you can't even start discussing what's proportional because the facts are being hidden and manipulated. It sucks that a lot of good people of Arab and other foreign descent are going to suffer as a consequence (and I'd stop skinheads from attacking an innocent Arab just like I'd stop Arabs from raping a girl), but the counter-reaction to overblown secretiveness is going to be just as overblown, only in the opposite direction.I can sign this.
All the hush-hush is achieving is a massive build up of anger, and if it keeps going the eventual backlash is going to be very over the top.
I simply don't believe that closing borders (...) will solve anything.
Not Arabs attack women, assholes do.
You condemn anything at all but the obvious. "Racist" people like me have been saying repeatedly, for years now, that there is a deep cultural/religious issue with a lot of ME/NA immigrants and refugees to Europe concerning their perceptions of women, their perceptions of our laws, their perceptions of our cultures. They have no respect for the police, they have no respect for women who don't come from their culture, in fact you could even say they are "racist" and proud of it, and encouraged to be so.
They certainly have no respect for men like you. Your primary worry seems to be to not to be perceived as "racist", truly the most awful thing that could happen to you apparently. It takes some massive cognitive dissonance to say with a straight face the ethnicity and culture of the perpetrators of these attacks is completely irrelevant, as if it could just as easily have been drunken groups of german guys, or polish guys, or etc. I'm sure the reaction from the regressives such as yourself would've been identical if that was the case, yes? I guess as a "centrist" it's easier to make vague, non-commital statements that literally mean nothing. "Oh it's so bad, but nothing can be done, /shrug, people who get angry at this are obviously racists, arabs and north africans aren't particularly overrepresented in these sorts of crimes, only a racist would say that, it's just assholes in general". Keep dancing around the obvious issue, or you could just retreat to your feinting couch and "stop instantly" whenever you perceive wrongthink, as you usually do. .
Koln police were completely overwhelmed. One of the victims was a policewoman herself. And this is only in Koln. Same thing happened in other german cities, Frankfurt drawing a little bit of attention as well. Police authority is mostly an illusion. All it takes is a large enough and motivated enough group to realize they outnumber the police and they are completely powerless. Especially german police that have been hamstrung by ridiculous "rules of engagement", slashbacked budgets everywhere and a topdown drive to make women police officers more common. And oooh do woman police officers enrage these assholes. The jails were so full they literally could not take any more offenders, even if they had wanted to.This is pretty much true.
And there's pressure from the government to keep these sorts of delicate issues under the rug. It's why the reports of New Year's Eve from Koln police were initially "all quiet on the western front", as if absolutely nothing out of the ordinary had happened. It took local news and social media pressure for the government and state media to even begin to accept it happened at all, much less to adress the issue.
This is at least my impression from the outside, although I am not german and do not live there.
Why not? Why it won't solve a problem with refugees, at least partially? And to be honest I don't understand why it's so big issues, closing borders. It's not like all people around the world have some divine right to go wherever they want....cuz they gonna find a way around the fence eventually. And then what? Shoot them?
Guns don't kill people... It's like saying that in the early nineties polakos didn't steal cars in germany, thieves did. But we did! :wink:
2016 is going to be a hell of a year :rolleyes:I'm afraid so.
...cuz they gonna find a way around the fence eventually. And then what? Shoot them?
Just because you closed the border doesn't mean they suddenly say "Oh, well, goes I'm not fleeing then! Unpack the bags, kids."
And can hardly let them freeze or starve to death at your border, can you?
It's naive to think that closing borders will solve anything.
Sure, so your primary worry is not the people being victimized right now, your people incidentally, but I might just as well say random human being whom you have no particular attachment to, but the potential future innocent victims of lowlife white-trash. There's harmful "views", and your people will suffer from them, but it's all good, because there's also other people benefitting and profitting from your generosity. It's ok, you're not the only one, there's always crying about the fearful expected backlash, just like muslims were going to be hunted down and killed by angry FN after all the french terrorist attacks, only thing Salon types could seem to worry about.I worry about both, current and future victims. Well, I use the word "worry" loosely here, for sake of consistency more or less.
I don't personally see how proper border and immigration control, managed by even the most backwards and undevelopped countries, is somehow beyond the reach of european countries, or how it would be a violent, racist act to implement them. To present mass immigration as a fait accompli (for western countries only, of course) is typical, but it's, from my perspective, massively ignorant.Me neither. Immigration needs to be moderated. I'm "d'accord" with that. But completely shutting down all immigration is not a solution. Neither do I believe that moderation of immigration is something violent or racist.
...cuz they gonna find a way around the fence eventually. And then what? Shoot them?
And what is a rhetorical question for you is a very good option for others.
Like it or not, this is all the cause of what happened last year in autumn.
It backfired like fucking hell on germans right now, i still remember how friendly everyone was towards these people in august and september.
[...]You should have seen me in front of my TV, cursing those retards...
I was one of the first in here complaining about those pricks at German railway stations welcoming refugees with fucking applause, colourful balloons and teddy bears. I am certainly not a part of the "Refugees Welcome"-fanbase.[...]
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Every single person who sexually attacks a woman has to be punished. No matter where he/she comes from. No matter the skin color, religious believe or whatever stupid excuse someone could come up with. Not Arabs attack women, assholes do.
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'it was only a prank bro"
ALLAHU AKBAR PRANK GONE WRONG POLICE CALLED
You are a racist, no matter who you fuck.
On a different note, it kinda amuses me how I am put in a far left corner of the political spectrum when I actually see myself as a man of the middle, partly conservative even.
And all that based on the fact that I despise generalization and argue against it.
I can sign this.
Every single person who sexually attacks a woman has to be punished. No matter where he/she comes from. No matter the skin color, religious believe or whatever stupid excuse someone could come up with. Not Arabs attack women, assholes do.
And I admitted a lot of times that there is a problem - several problems actually - with the massive influx of immigrants to Europe. I simply don't believe that closing borders or coming up with yet even more laws which are going to be ignored will solve anything. Doesn't mean I don't like them to stop coming. I was one of the first in here complaining about those pricks at German railway stations welcoming refugees with fucking applause, colourful balloons and teddy bears. I am certainly not a part of the "Refugees Welcome"-fanbase.
But I do refuse to condemn all of them with generalized statements like Oberyn does:"They are all rapists and bad, bad people!!1 ARRRGH!"
Like the guy who I quoted before - and Warlord nicely made fun of cuz of his haircut - wrote (loosely translated): Just because the first 9 black guys you met turned out to be assholes doesn't give you the right to hit the 10th straight into the face.
And I am fine with discussing the issue but I'll stop instantly when the rhetoric goes down the "sandnigga"-path. And unfortunately that is the case 99% of the time when the likes of Oberyn and Warlord enter the stage. Although Warlord is certainly more careful with what he writes since I called him out as a racist some time ago. He never was as bad as Wayyyyne but he never missed a chance to +1 his posts either when Wayyyyne was still around.
/rant
Forgot the GONE SEXUAL part aswell, gotta minmax all the viewers.
In germany there is now a general debate about sexual harassment and rape... I'm not saying this is a bad thing but the real problems at hand are muslim men who have no respect for women whatsoever. Especially "western women", who are just sluts to them. And that problem is caused by the politicians who brought those people in by the thousands.
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In germany there is now a general debate about sexual harassment and rape... I'm not saying this is a bad thing but the real problems at hand are muslim men who have no respect for women whatsoever. Especially "western women", who are just sluts to them. And that problem is caused by the politicians who brought those people in by the thousands.
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150735341/Die-meisten-waren-frisch-eingereiste-Asylbewerber.html
Arabs and africans treatment and overall understanding of women, by Western standards is almost always shitty and extremely rooted. Its not even a racist stereotypical quess, its a pretty certain fact. I got a lot of family in Finland, being kind of an immigrants themselves and constantly interacting with the asylum seekers(or who were once anyway), they quite often share. Pretty much all males are sexist. Even those who have lived in Finland for like a good 10 years and by all standards have adopted the new culture. Their understanding of women as basically worthless doesnt even budge an inch majority of the time.The second and even third generation Africans/Arabs tend to be just as bad, in fact they're the ones most often harassing women in trains and buses in gangs.
I dont even want to think about in what high risk the women in Germany are. In a lot of ways Germany took in too many people and a lot of immigrants are extremely pissed at the slow process of gaining asylum. With each passing year they linger they will become more dangerous.
She got a lot of official backlash for that, I think she was fired? Those upstanding citizens she womanhandled are robbing and thieving all the time, yet they went to the police and reported it. :rolleyes:
On other news, this is a woman I would love to marry
Poor goatfuckers... :lol:
She got a lot of official backlash for that, I think she was fired? Those upstanding citizens she womanhandled are robbing and thieving all the time, yet they went to the police and reported it. :rolleyes:What did they report? That they tried to steal something and she stopped them?
What did they report? That they tried to steal something and she stopped them?Actually I think she didn't get anything from it, but her boss who publicized the camera footage had to pull it down and IIRC there were some condemning statements from higher up. Been like half a year, there was a lot of shit about it back then but can't remember everything now.
What did they report? That they tried to steal something and she stopped them?
Northern Europe(and my country) are so incredibly humane, that you are better off not touching robbers and just letting it happen. Even if someone breaks into your house, its just better to leave or go back to sleep than trying to confront the robber, even if your life was at threat(unless you have fucktons of evidence to back it). Somehow these countries are so horribly frightened of even a slightest form of vigilantism, that citizens arent really allowed to even touch a lawbreaker, let alone stop them.Yup, the self defense laws are fucked up here.
haha fuck that
id expect you guys split the skulls of shoplifters with an axe or something.
please be badass once again kkthx
Found something to read for Warlord. I dare you to actually read it!
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/koeln-silvester-mob-und-gegenmob-kolumne-a-1070724.html
And my favourite part as quote:
But that's Lügenpresse, right? All lies and slander!!1!
This whole debate boils down to how large of a gated community you want.
To be honest I'd rather have it like in the states, not rely on public services that much. That is ultimately the down-to-earth reason why poor westerners care more about borders than rich ones. The rich ones are getting fucked regardless.
Welp, there's more and more evidence that the vast majority of the crimes committed were from asylum seekers. Guess I was wrong. Looks like it was mostly recent "refugees". Something similar as what happened in german cities was apparently prevented in Helsinki by police who broke it up before it snowballed into the clusterfuck it did in Koln, a bunch of "refugees" congregating at a train station deliberately for that purpose.I think I posted about it, the main Helsinki railroad stations looked like the Middle East, hundreds of Arabs everywhere...
Northern Europe(and my country) are so incredibly humane, that you are better off not touching robbers and just letting it happen. Even if someone breaks into your house, its just better to leave or go back to sleep than trying to confront the robber, even if your life was at threat(unless you have fucktons of evidence to back it). Somehow these countries are so horribly frightened of even a slightest form of vigilantism, that citizens arent really allowed to even touch a lawbreaker, let alone stop them.
If I you end up hurting badly an intruder who broke into your house, maybe you'd better make him disappear in the wood-burning stove or in the garden, rather than calling the cops :wink:
Just read similar shit went down in Zurich. Looks like they are gaining power, the more the are the stronger they get. They are the Borg? :shock:
Srsly, I already asked the question but is anything done in the countries where this is going on or is it still taboo. I'm left in my viewes no doubt and am for giving a chance, but if more and more come and they feel they can go around in packs feeling safe, think it's about time some deportations start. I still believe there are decent and sensible men and women among the refugees, in the end they will get the wrong end of the stick and get deported.
I doubt it. Anti-muslim and anti-arabic sentiments seems to be based on cultural, not economic foundations. After all the rich women are getting - literally - fucked as much as the poor ones. And afaik germany will need immigrants anyway, because of lack of labour force. So don't really see how the problem of refugees affects only poor westerners. I guess that the poor and uneducated are more afraid of other cultures and races, but it's still a cultural thing, not economical. Even in Poland (where in reality problem doesnt' exist at all) people don't want to see refugees coming in due to cultural differences, not because they're afraid to lose a job or sth like that. Last year we've got 400 k immigrants from Ukraine and no one gives a damn about it.
its not taboo, police that was there already stated whatever happened, it seems police was anticipating trouble, officers where even worried that people might die that night and asked for backup already before 11pm, as forces on site felt more and more aggravated because they could only do the bare minimum and not help everybody. however those reinforcements where not granted.
in the aftermath even merkel is now saying that there is no place in germany for migrants not respecting women or our way of life. consensus is that migrants not complying with the law shall be deported more quickly.
on a side note, a lot of violence happend that night in my home town near cologne too, a man got beat up infront of his house after asking migrants to stop throwing fireworks at his family, a police car was attacked. my brother was attacked by four people and cut with a knife a few days earlier, and a friend of mine was robbed and beat up last night.
the fuck is going on.
In the case of general anti-immigration feelings I guess that you're right, but particular antipathy towards muslim refugees has to be based on some other/additional factor. I'm not sure if you should paint with the same brush people who are against all immigrants and people who are exclusively against muslim immigrants. Oberyn, isn't he only against muslims, not against any and all immigrants?
As long as none of your beloved getting hurt...You're an idiot and you obviously didn't read the thread, especially not my recent posts. Go away.
But in the end you are behaving like a ignorant piece of something. Because people all around are starting to suffer by this dirtbags and then calling for endless liberalism is just as stupid as damning all immigrants.
People like you are what makes a big anti-islamic movement necessary.
its not taboo, police that was there already stated whatever happened, it seems police was anticipating trouble, officers where even worried that people might die that night and asked for backup already before 11pm, as forces on site felt more and more aggravated because they could only do the bare minimum and not help everybody. however those reinforcements where not granted.
in the aftermath even merkel is now saying that there is no place in germany for migrants not respecting women or our way of life. consensus is that migrants not complying with the law shall be deported more quickly.
on a side note, a lot of violence happend that night in my home town near cologne too, a man got beat up infront of his house after asking migrants to stop throwing fireworks at his family, a police car was attacked. my brother was attacked by four people and cut with a knife a few days earlier, and a friend of mine was robbed and beat up last night.
the fuck is going on.
Then Torben wrote that there is no way to send refugees away after committing a crime. That statement is not entirely true. The hurdle is just very high. Too high in my opinion.too damn high indeed, did you read the same article? :)
You have to overdo it quite a lot to get into trouble.Yes and thats interesting: In case of sexual harassment like that, you´re actually pretty much allowed to give that guy a good beating (as long as there is some major resistance). I did not know that you were that well protected in that case.
Its not really only about jobs. Refugees also burden the social system. As in grab benefits out of the hands of the common native people. What really pisses people off is the fact that atleast 70% of refugees arent really fleeing war, but their countries economic crysis and from them, atleast half are burdening the social system of the foreign country they choose to stay in, on purpose.
HOWEVER the hard fact is that the social system that shares too much(like in the Nordic) is in a brink of collapse in the West anyway. And thats due to low birth rates. No young people to compensate the high pensions etc. The immigrants are considered the saving grace in that department. Which is the reason of why Sweden just accepted everybody. Im assuming Swedens actual plan is to turn the immigrants into some kind of lower part of the society thats going to work for the pensions and benefits of their elderly etc. So it doesnt really matter that much anyway. No immigrants, it collapses. Immigrants who just take, but wont work, still collapses.
Then Torben wrote that there is no way to send refugees away after committing a crime. That statement is not entirely true. The hurdle is just very high. Too high in my opinion.
The State is allowed to deport an immigrant/refugee if he/she commits a crime that is punished with 3 years jail time or more. Certainly should be lower and should include certain k.o. criterias which allow instant refusal of the current status of immigration and instant deportation (e.g. rape, paedophilia and similar stuff).
Same thing that's been going on for years, but galvanized. I find it interesting how few places even mentioned the violence against german men, as if getting surrounded by a dozen migrants and getting the shit beat out of you was so trivial and common as to not be mentioned. Not that I'm blaming them, there is undeniable media attraction in the plea and suffering of women getting violently harassed and groped by worthless animals. If it finally opens some of the useful idiots's eyes so much the better.
all in all I have been confronted with many crimes in my life, from getting beaten up by a polish teenager when I was ten (his arabic friend actually jumped in and stopped him from continuously punching me), over witnessing a bunch of big brawls (btw have never seen a german punch or kick people on the floor or pull a knife, only know that from russians and middle eastern/north african folks), my best female friend being raped and beaten half dead by two turks, two other female friends being raped while drugged.holy shit torben where the hell did you grow up?
Guess Ill go as batman.
holy shit torben where the hell did you grow up?
I thought you Yuropans lived in some sort of Utopia, wha hapen?
Someone decided to attack Iraq.
Someone decided to attack Iraq.Yeah, it was such a swell place before that.
Yeah, it was such a swell place before that.
Someone decided to attack Iraq.
Which was fine for Europe I guess.Joking aside, the current "crisis" has nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq. "Europe", aka the politicians, only have themselves to blame. Most of the "refugees" aren't refugees, they're migrants after easy money.
Joking aside, the current "crisis" has nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq. "Europe", aka the politicians, only have themselves to blame. Most of the "refugees" aren't refugees, they're migrants after easy money.
ayy lmao
Yeah, it was such a swell place before that.
Joking aside, the current "crisis" has nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq. "Europe", aka the politicians, only have themselves to blame. Most of the "refugees" aren't refugees, they're migrants after easy money.
near cologne. on rape: it happens way more often then most of us think. many women just wont talk about it because its fucking traumatic and humiliating.statistics from australian institute for crime research for first world countries:
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statistics from australian institute for crime research for first world countries:
on average, 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 boys becomes a rape victim before the age of 18
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statistics from australian institute for crime research for first world countries:
on average, 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 boys becomes a rape victim before the age of 18
It was relatively stable at least.And people were still being killed left and right. There was just as much cause to flee back then as there is now.
Those "refugees" come here in the shadow of the follow up conflicts. Without the war in Syria they'd have a much harder time coming in. Heck, most of them even disguise themselves as Syrians to have a legitimation.It's not America's fault Europe has shitty politicians that make shitty policies when it comes to accepting "refugees."
Even this article is permeated with a blind denial of the legitimacy of an anti-immigration pro-European outlook. Talk of 'hate' or 'xenophobia' or 'fear' is infuriating. Please address the issues and stop pathologizing emotions, which are a consequence and not a cause. For instance "The fear of foreigners, of being "swamped" by them" is patronizing! There are a million refugees. That is a fact and a lot, acknowledge this. These emotions are simply the powerless response to policies perpetrated by the government against its own people. Merkel should reverse course or she will leave people no other choice than to turn to violence in self defense.
Vast majority are young, adult, able bodied men, not the women, children and old men you would expect when you think "war refugee". The majority of those that have asked for asylum didn't come from Syria or Iraq, the journey to Europe requires funds and resources. The REAL refugees are largely in surrounding countries, Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, etc. And that's ignoring the booming trade in fake syrian/iraqi passports that have suddenly gained much value, for obvious reasons. The opportunists outpaced out the real refugees by a large margin.
The recent Der Spiegel piece on the New Right (http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/refugee-crisis-drives-rise-of-new-right-wing-in-germany-a-1067384.html). An interesting article, mostly for its propaganda value.
What is propagandistic about it?The article is basically a shitlist of right-wing politicians that illustrates why each of them is bad.
What is propagandistic about it?Its premises and conclusions are largely ideological. It doesn't address the well-documented substance of legitimate concerns that has made people from all social strata, and many from the left, become part of the New Right, instead preferring to paint it as a whole as 'xenophobia' or 'hate'. I think the left is doing itself a grave disservice by stigmatizing large parts of the population and by pathologizing emotions which are consequences not causes, as argued by the comment I quoted.
Is there any valid data on the matter?According to Eurostat numbers only 1 in 5 of the refugees are from Syria. Without them there would still be an immigration crisis in Europe, accentuated by the disastrous policies of Swedish and German leadership.
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leaked cologne sexual harassment
According to Eurostat numbers only 1 in 5 of the refugees are from Syria. Without them there would still be an immigration crisis in Europe, accentuated by the disastrous policies of Swedish and German leadership.
Someone decided to attack Iraq.
statistics from australian institute for crime research for first world countries:
on average, 1 in 3 girls and 1 in 6 boys becomes a rape victim before the age of 18
source: you get what you pay for (ebook)
Think about a syrian baby getting mowed down by border police as it hangs from barbed wire, his pregnant mother desperately trying to protect him.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/finland/12088332/Unprecedented-sex-harassment-in-Helsinki-at-New-Year-Finnish-police-report.html
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Has any legal actions been taken against the media and government officials in Germany?
TV news executives appointed by the government, Poland so free :lol:
sure because the media in other countries is not controlled by the government, aye?
Its quite undemocratic. Why the hell was a law like that even passed? Kinda never expected that from Poland.
you are one of those, seriously?
Nope. Instead their fucktard leftist politicians want to put economic sanctions on Poland [like in Russia case], because we made "anti-democratic" changes in public tv.
Its quite undemocratic. Why the hell was a law like that even passed? Kinda never expected that from Poland.
one of whom, you say? But seriously, you dont wanna tell me that the media really has the choice to openly discuss anything? Certain topics are being kept down and you probably noticed that as well, concerning this topic.
But we - well, not "we" per se, but our government - did made anti-democratic changes. Didn't we?
By a mistake we elected undemocratic party, ironically called "Law and Justice". So now we're fucked.Yep, so many people made mistake in legal and democratic voting. Nope, they chose the change after 8 years of constatnt swindles and licking the ass of frau Merkel. And first time the loser party does so hypocritical noise inside and outside the country, because they lost.
These changes are not anti-democratic for me. It's nothing new [at least in Poland] that each new elected government change the chiefs of public tv/radio. You can't forget that they are the joint-stock copmany of State Treasury.
Yep, so many people made mistake in legal and democratic voting. Nope, they chose the change after 8 years of constatnt swindles and licking the ass of frau Merkel. And first time the loser party does so hypocritical noise inside and outside the country, because they lost.
Ok, be still blind to some things or maybe you need a few horny muslim immigrants in your home ?
Yep, so many people made mistake in legal and democratic voting.
Who the fuck do you think have given you billions of billions of Euros to rebuild Poland? NOTHING happened in Poland before you joined the EU.
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The systemic political correctness(yes, systemic, not systematical) has caused a delay in the criminal investigations.So, who's supposed to deliver on the truth?
Which might lead to more persons being robbed/sexually abused(and sadly but likely traumatized).
This is comparable to aiding the robbers, abusers and rapists, and should be a criminal offense.
We need facts, you know, those pesky things that describe reality accurately and doesn't care what political, social, cultural, emotional etc. etc. narrative they support or discredit.
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And to round it all of with something semi-offensive(especially to 3rd wave feminist SJWs):(click to show/hide)
Whether after the Islamist terrorist attacks in Paris or the sexual harassment again women in Cologne: Each time, a Great Wall of China has been erected in Germany. It's purpose was not the lockdown of the country. Instead, it was made to prevent the connection of the respective discussions with the refugee issue. Politicians rightly fear that if the connection was made, the dams that they had built would finally breach, after they have been soaked by the flood of the dissatisfaction in the German population for so long.
The whole magnitude of the violence around the Cologne Cathedral was still unknown when the mayor had already stated that there is no evidence that the perpetrators are refugees. Same with the attacks in Paris: German politicians strongly emphasized that the terrorists had not come to Paris as refugees. Already back then, it dreaded the politicians that the already declining welcoming culture may shift into denial or even hatred and a radicalization of the political debate.
Thus, the grand coalition is shocked whenever somebody disobeys the prohibition of making the connection. For example when the head of the German police union, who is said to have failed the most, mentioned the understaffing of the Cologne police force, whose personnel had been assigned to help at the border. The Department of the Interior has instantly rejected this perspective, because it implied the willingness to sacrifice public order in a major city to organize the refugee stream at least a little bit.
The events in Cologne have unsettled many Germans for good, because the state has displayed itself as weak and undetermined not only at the border but also inside. Further, they have once again disappointed the citizens and created the impression that the authorities suppress and censor facts simply because they are "politically delicate", as a policeman in command commented.
This spiral of silence, which Interior Minister de Maizière now wants to disrupt, has been part of the political agenda for decades. All democratic parties agree that a strengthening of the extremist groups has to be prevented. However, the politics of euphemisms and factual distortions in the refugee issue that have spawned from this noble cause have the exact opposite effect: They are driving sincere democrats into the camp of non-voters and the barricades. They feel deprived of their right of free speech, stigmatized as xenophobes and pushed into the right corner of the political spectrum, where some of them stay.
Cologne is a hard blow for Merkel's politics of the welcome culture. This is displayed by her quick demand that the constitutional democracy must react with full force. Other than that, the principle of hope still applies: Hopefully, there haven't been any refugees among the perpetrators! However, if the politics wants to salvage its residual credibility, only truth and clarity will work. Would the conclusion that the perpetrators and their accomplices have been living in Germany for a long time, perhaps even as German citizens, be any better? No: This would be just another proof for the plentifully failed integration. Proofs for such a failure and the existence of parallel cultures, whose rules are incompatible with the values of the German culture are countless and not restricted to major cities.
The Cologne events have such an unsettling effect because they are simultaneously reinforcing old concerns and warning signs of a German future nobody wants to experience. Only the combination of naivete and illusions of grandeur can lead to the honest belief that the immigration of a gazillion of young Muslim men from the war regions of Asia and Africa won't further reinforce the existing problems with immigrants in Germany. Many Syrians, Afghans and Moroccans will become industrious workers and dutiful tax payers. Other "refugees" however will, despite loving care, keeping thinking of the from the politics weakened policemen as sissies, women as free sex objects and democrats as lunatics. They will join the clans and organized crime, and the number of subjects to Islamist recruiting will increase.
Germany won't gain control of the refugee crisis through bold announcements and a harsher practice of deportation. These measures are unavailable and unwanted for several reasons. But the decision who may come to Germany and stay must be made much earlier. That's because the safety and the future of this republic will of course depend on who we welcome.
These changes are not anti-democratic for me. It's nothing new [at least in Poland] that each new elected government change the chiefs of public tv/radio. You can't forget that they are the joint-stock copmany of State Treasury.
lol, no. I'm to busy working 41 hours + overtime, hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, caring for my family and spending time with my girlfriend and her family - which, btw, all have black or dark-brown hair, darker skin than me or any average German, because they are migrants/children of immigrants.
Large parts of her family aren't even living here anymore or didn't ever live here and still visit us regularly, and some of them that are permanently living here don't even have a german passport, so they are "foreigners" by the definition of the law.
So sorry to dissapoint you, but especially Molly. Warlord eventually marrying into a family of immigrants/non-germans :P :D :mrgreen:
lol, no. I'm to busy working 41 hours + overtime, hitting the gym 4-5 times a week, caring for my family and spending time with my girlfriend and her family - which, btw, all have black or dark-brown hair, darker skin than me or any average German, because they are migrants/children of immigrants.
Large parts of her family aren't even living here anymore or didn't ever live here and still visit us regularly, and some of them that are permanently living here don't even have a german passport, so they are "foreigners" by the definition of the law.
So sorry to dissapoint you, but especially Molly. Warlord eventually marrying into a family of immigrants/non-germans :P :D :mrgreen:
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She's italian isn't she
Haha, close, but no. There are italian and spanish in-law relatives in her family, but she and her family are portuguese :D
Dark hair and bronzy complexion, southern european women are the hottest for sure :)
Haha, close, but no. There are italian and spanish in-law relatives in her family, but she and her family are portuguese :D
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And you're not racist because you're dating Portuguese girl...
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PS.Not saying that you are.
That's all labels. You just label everything. That's so fuckin' lazy... You just... You're a lazy fucker.
Well, a racist would, by the definition of the word, never be in a relationship with someone from another race.
You may be laughing and not taking these things serious enough, but for us living in Cologne, the whole thing is not a joke. #eineArmlängeAbstandHow would you describe public sentiment right now?
How would you describe public sentiment right now?
Well, a racist would, by the definition of the word, never be in a relationship with someone from another race.
And btw, leftist are the ones always bringin in the racism/race card in every situation.
I don't classify people into races at all. Just into people I like / a living together is good and peaceful and people I don't like/ a living together is bad and full of trouble.
Portuguese and Germans are different races? Okayyy...
Molly: "You're a racist"
Warlord: "No, I'm not. Proof: I'm dating Portuguese girl."
:rolleyes:
I literally asked this a young gf in cologne I have. could imagine it being different on whom you ask, too.Certainly. I'm just interested in perspectives. If nothing else the symptoms manifesting themselves on New Year's Eve seem to have raised public awareness and kickstarted some long-overdue debate in Germany and Europe in general.
haha keep downvoting retardI know, it's all what you can write when the facts are given. Keep going.
Counterquestion: What race (again, I am not the one bringing race into this) is it that in this very case Germans and Portuguese belong to?
Germans, Frenchs, Portuguese, Italians, Brits, Poles and so on all have different languages, culture, conventions and traditions, but still we all share a common history, the same religion (at least in the very core) and most importantly the Enlightenment, which resulted in the free democratic basic order all european countries (more or less at least) have.
That is why Germans, Frenchs, Portuguese, Italians, Brits, Poles and so on can live together peacefully and mostly without trouble. It really isn't some kind of magic, it is pretty much common sense.
The fact you pull out the I'm dating a girl from south of Europe with a bit darker complexion as you proof of not being racist is racist as fuck lol.
Well, that doesn't make sense at all, but ok.
- Residence permits have been ripped in front of police officers by refugees and commented by saying, "you can't do anything to me, I'll go get a new one tomorrow."source: http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article150713773/Der-schockierende-Einsatzbericht-der-Koelner-Polizei.html
- Restraining orders could be enforced only by force. People just came back and made a joke out of the situation.
- A man was quoted saying "I am Syrian, you have to treat me kindly. Mrs. Merkel has invited me"
- People who witnessed the assaults and robberies and reported them to the police were later chased and threatened by the perpetrators
- Taking offenders into custody was simply impossible due to lacking capacities
- Fireworks and bottles were thrown at the police
Pretty sure eventually militias will be formed and the immigrants will be fucked.
It's embarrassing and a downright scandal it took German media five days to even report this. Lends some credibility to the Pegida chant 'Lügenpresse'.
the most fucked up word ever. literally hate the pegida gaylords, bunch of moronsDoesn't change the fact that it's true. The media deliberately held back information about what happened in cologne and even when they couldn't hide it anymore they tried to cover up the fact that the perpetrators were north african/refugees/immigrants etc.
Dude.... you are dating a caucasian girl from europe, what's so special about it?Spanish and Portuguese aren't white like Germans, Brits, Scandinavians, etc. They have a very distinct look thanks to the Iberian peninsula being controlled by Muslims for so long (700 years).
Spanish and Portuguese aren't white like Germans, Brits, Scandinavians, etc. They have a very distinct look thanks to the Iberian peninsula being controlled by Muslims for so long (700 years).
It's embarrassing and a downright scandal it took German media five days to even report this. Lends some credibility to the Pegida chant 'Lügenpresse'.Molly care to elaborate on why you minus this post? Seems to be irrational to me, when in this case certainly the record shows otherwise. If you think Pegida have wrong ideals one can only logically assume you wouldn't want their slogans to actually find support in reality, reinforcing these views among the population.
They are way more attractive then inbreed northern tribes, you got that right. :mrgreen:What southern European nations?
Jokes aside, that all can be applied to most souther Eurepean nations, do you consider thenžm a different race?
If I saw one of them rob a bank, I wouldn't tell the police it was a white dude, I'd say maybe it was a latino, or a Spaniard, or maybe even a guy from Iran... but I wouldn't confuse the dude with a German or a Brit or a Swede or a Finn or...
Wat? Agree with you that most portuguese/spanish people aren't as white as germans, but saying that you wouldn't call the guys in the picture you posted white is ridiculousCalling them white is ridiculous. They're as white as Iranians.
Molly care to elaborate on why you minus this post? Seems to be irrational to me, when in this case certainly the record shows otherwise. If you think Pegida have wrong ideals one can only logically assume you wouldn't want their slogans to actually find support in reality, reinforcing these views among the population....because 2 minutes of Google search tell me that your statement is utter bullshit. That's why, idiot.
Calling them white is ridiculous. They're as white as Iranians.
Notice how I was talking about guys the whole time? The girls tend to look "whiter" than the guys.
So the last girl in the pic to you isn't white, k.
Dude.... you are dating a caucasian girl from europe, what's so special about it?
What southern European nations?
If I saw one of them rob a bank, I wouldn't tell the police it was a white dude, I'd say maybe it was a latino, or a Spaniard, or maybe even a guy from Iran... but I wouldn't confuse the dude with a German or a Brit or a Swede or a Finn or...
wowNo arguments? No surprise, you can't argue against the facts. Or maybe you're one of those people who think it's racist to call someone not white, because not being white is inferior- oh wait.
...because 2 minutes of Google search tell me that your statement is utter bullshit. That's why, idiot.I will let your language speak for itself, but regarding the issue then the public and political complaint is directed at establishment media, like the public broadcaster ZDF whose editors have even apologized publicly and called it a 'misjudgement'. Five days is a long time, which together with the initial police reports plays right into the hands of Pegida supporters.
Notice how I was talking about guys the whole time? The girls tend to look "whiter" than the guys.
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First it's all media and I show you your own unwillingness to actually check and now it's only the ZDF?The ZDF case is the one that has been written about all over international media after the official apology and the one people are pointing to because it's German public-service media, of course that was the one I talked about (assuming people contributing to this thread read at least some major news outlets), and I'm sure other media get their news from ZDF like they do from our national public-service channel here, the DR (and no, that doesn't necessarily mean all media, Molly).
much media so all of 'em wow
Idiot.
Same to me tbh, if the police asked you to describe them you would say "they're not white, dunno if indian iranian or latino but they weren't white" right? You do realize there isn't only norwegian kind of "white people" just as much as there isn't only guineas black people right?You don't get it, apparently. You wouldn't know someone is a Norwegian, but if you said they were white the Reasonable Man would understand what you mean. A Norwegian and a German look virtually the same. Brits sometimes have a "British" look, but they can still pass for French, German, Swedish, etc, a lot of the time.
All I'm talking about is related to the pic, if to help the investigations youd say those guys in the picture are not white, then your standards of white are brokento me; i understand you live in finland, which i don't think to be the most multicultural nation on earth but then again we live in 2015 and you should know white doesn't coincide with pure norwegian. Also mistaking them for iranian, lolI have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're saying white =/= pure norwegian.
Let me put it like this, if i asked you to spot the white girl in this pic youd say there are none?Like I said before, it's harder to say with women. She could be a latino looking white girl, or she could be a white girl looking latino.(click to show/hide)
Just noticed pic is hige
Let me put it like this, if i asked you to spot the white girl in this pic youd say there are none?(click to show/hide)
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I have no idea what you're talking about, or why you're saying white =/= pure norwegian.
Like I said before, it's harder to say with women. She could be a latino looking white girl, or she could be a white girl looking latino.
Incidentally, why do you think statistics, especially in the US, often differentiate between white and hispanic, or at least use white-hispanic?
The U.S. Census Bureau defines the ethnonym Hispanic or Latino to refer to "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race" and states that Hispanics or Latinos can be of any race, any ancestry, any ethnicity.
Because i said they don't coincide, not that they're different; the "girls look whiter" argument is stupid.You're stupid. It's always harder to tell with women where they're from.
You're stupid. It's always harder to tell with women where they're from.
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She, for example, could be anything from a Swede to an Argentinian to an Iranian...
It's embarrassing and a downright scandal it took German media five days to even report this. Lends some credibility to the Pegida chant 'Lügenpresse'.This statement as you wrote it is false and utter bullshit. That for me warranted a -1 and me calling you an idiot for writing it.
Oh Molly, you're trying hard to defend what? It is us Germans being attacked currently, we are having the problems with those "refugees".Yes, all Germans are under attack. We are at war. :rolleyes:
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Yes, all Germans are under attack. We are at war. :rolleyes:
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The war is being brought here. Do you really think no problems with a clash of cultures would be created? Refugees running from a country where they were attacked, houses destroyed, relatives killed, then they cross the sea with a shitty boat or go by foot for weeks? That does leave no marks that could cause anything bad? It is not like they paid 100€ and then went by plane, landed in Cologne, walked into the nearest hotel and settled down? No. Put away your weak glasses that show you a world that would and will never exist. Not everything is pink and nice, in this case nothing is.Maybe you should read my posts in this thread before you go at me like this.
Anyway, soon enough we'll see militias being formed and then the shit is going down. Hopefully. Seriously.
2nd. Because in the end it was right as well.Already figured you'd go that route. Not surprised.
What is better? Being hesitant to report rumours and unconfirmed stuff coming from eye witnesses you can't interview yourself, all the while doubting the press comments from official places, and simply hoping you'll find something trustworthy the next day? Or simply report stuff that "FluffyCat" reported over her Twitter account?I remind you of the stabbing of refugee not long ago. Just hours after it happened the media was all over it saying it was probably done by a neochocolate chip cookie or right winger (and they even blamed the police for not doing their work properly) even though there was nothing to proof it. This kept on for days and weeks until they found out that another refugee stabbed him to death because of some petty dispute. Well after that came out the whole thing went awfully quite...
I know what I prefer.
his kept on for days and weeks until they found out that another refugee stabbed him to death because of some petty dispute. Well after that came out the whole thing went awfully quite...
ITT: Xant identifying white people:That's the low IQ take on it, yes, and I can see why someone whose powers of observation only go so far would come to that conclusion. Someone capable of abstract thinking would realize it's the exact opposite, however, and that calling Spanish "white" serves no purpose and has no usefulness unless you're deciding who to throw into the ovens.
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:lol:
portuguese/spanish people
Calling them white is ridiculous. They're as white as Iranians.
Another trainwreck thread. It is beautiful how we got from Cologne to discussing the level of whiteness. :lol:
Another trainwreck thread. It is beautiful how we got from Cologne to discussing the level of whiteness. :lol:
Yes, the Aryan race is the master race and dating with dirty Portuguese is a proof that you're not racist... You know, I start to think that you have to be kinda racist to bring in such argument.
That's the low IQ take on it
Ontopic doe. As much as I could find from the internet(might be worthless info, I dunno) the germans helping out in refugeecamps kinda claim aswell that mybe 1/5th are actually in dire need of help. The rest run around with the latest smartphones and overall acting like royalty. Demanding stylish clothes etc. I wonder why isnt the input of these people valued or voiced louder? Is the German government really so ashamed to admit it fucked up, that its willing to get its own people screwed by basically assholes?
Im kinda happy to live in the "racist, intolerant part of Europe". You Germans got fucking conned. :lol:
clash of culturesPerhaps it's time to bring up Huntington again.
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haha, that's my fault for having a portuguese girlfriend. And the question was about race first. Seems like most people define race over skincolor and nothing else. Whatever, I don't care.
No, it's about you using the fact you have a portugese gf as proof you are open minded and not racist, if you thing that a german male dating a caucasian girl from the same continent only a differnet country is some sort of an incredible achievement in diversity and multicultalism and gives you some credibility you indeed are a bigot racist or incedibly thick, your pick.
Well tbh, the german link Molly shared was kinda retarded aswell. I dunno if the translator was accurate but it said something like "to be civilized, means meeting 9 asshole black haired guys and not instantly judging the 10th". Which is a pretty fcking retarded thing to say. Its like if you get bit by 9 wolves in the forest and still giving the 10th one a shot at being your best friend. I never knew "being civilized" ment totally butchering your own sense of security and some fucking common sense, for the sake of friendship and fairness towards all.
Well tbh, the german link Molly shared was kinda retarded aswell. I dunno if the translator was accurate but it said something like "to be civilized, means meeting 9 asshole black haired guys and not instantly judging the 10th". Which is a pretty fcking retarded thing to say. Its like if you get bit by 9 wolves in the forest and still giving the 10th one a shot at being your best friend. I never knew "being civilized" ment totally butchering your own sense of security and some fucking common sense, for the sake of friendship and fairness towards all.Are you implying that wolves are aggressive and hostile?(click to show/hide)(click to show/hide)
Hey hey, wolves are also alive and deserve their rights, why let them outside in the cold and the rain when we can invite them into the barn with our sheep? We must open wide the doors.
Well, a racist would, by the definition of the word, never be in a relationship with someone from another race.
ITT: Xant identifying white people:
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You don't get it, apparently. You wouldn't know someone is a Norwegian, but if you said they were white the Reasonable Man would understand what you mean. A Norwegian and a German look virtually the same. Brits sometimes have a "British" look, but they can still pass for French, German, Swedish, etc, a lot of the time.
Meanwhile, a lot of Spanish people could be mistaken for Arabs by the uninitiated, while no one would mistake a genetic German for an Arab. It's a really obvious difference if you don't have an agenda. They look different from what is generally understood as stereotypically white, and they stand out -- meanwhile, most Europeans could be mistaken to live in most European countries, because they look stereotypically white. A Spanish person walks down the street in Finland, he stands out as not-a-Finn. A German walks down the street, no one knows until he opens his mouth. I'm belaboring the point, but I just don't understand what's so hard about it.
Can't speak for the source, but judge for yourselves. Makes me sick.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjEi7AJveXY
Minister Ralf Jaeger said that while the attacks were bad, Germans must not allow right-wing anti-immigrant forces to gain legitimacy.
“What happens on the right-wing platforms and in chatrooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women,”
If anything like this would happen near me:
I would not consider my own safety, just like an ant, when trying to murder these fuckers, then destroy their bodies.
If I survived, my only regret would be that I didn't make him/them suffer longer!
That being said it is our duty to help wherever we can.
Is it? Can you show me where in your constitution it says that, exactly? I was under the impression german political mandate extended to it's own borders and people (and if you're particularly anti-EU, to the rest of the European Union). I had no idea Germany had suddenly become the ruler of the entire planet. I must've missed WW3, wow germs really upped their time on the blitzkrieg, new record. Tell me, this "duty", is it something germans signed up for? Does anyone get a say in it, or is it some sort of unspoken burden, a silent aquiescence to it the only option?
And its everyones duty as a human being to help, I humbly do not request this honor for the people of my country alone : )
This part is easily the one that made me laugh the most out of this whole thread:Except I'm factually right, genetics are unfortunately on my side. The Spanish and Portuguese have vastly more African and Arab genes than the rest of Europe (7-20 times more at least). As a result they look different and no one is going to mistake them for a German. Only retards with an agenda would call them white, because it serves no purpose otherwise. Where is the "white" cut off? It's not enough that you don't look white and have mixed African and Arab heritage? In what context do you call someone white, and why? Reasonable people call someone "white" or "black" because they don't have a more accurate term, seeing as you can't place them in any specific country or area... while calling Spanish "white" is just misleading and confusing, and calling them something else would not only be more accurate but have more information density.
I mean honestly, how can Xant be so wrong and write like he believes it?
Calling them white is ridiculous. They're as white as Iranians.Thanks for making my point, if you think those people are white you're delusional.
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Calling them white is ridiculous, you say... Okay I guess :rolleyes:
Yup, Obama is white too.
Torben, you're dentist aren't you? Will removing amalgam help my mental state?
Well I guess if you were discussing the source of his genetic material I'd say yeah he does possess "white" characteristics (as well as "black" ones).Quite so, quite so, that's why no one says he's the first black president of the US, and why he's referred to as "white" as much as "black." Mulattos are commonly known as white, it is known. And "Hispanic" only refers to the country of origin, as well, of course, it makes perfect sense -- when crime statistics list "black", "white" and "hispanic" it's just the country of origin, just like white people come from the White Country and black people come from the Black Country. I mean, that's got to be it, right? Otherwise it'd be like "apples", "oranges" and "race cars."
Xant are slavs white? :oops: :oops:Yes, though they tend to have a distinct look as well so it makes more sense to speak of them as "slavs" than "white."
Are Finns white?Yup, as white as they come.
wat. That shows the distribution of uralic languages. I see where you took it from, and I commend your attempt at deception by ignoring the "genetics" part above it and instead taking a picture about languages out of context.According to this it makes more sense to speak of them as Uralic people. If you identify white people as ones that look Germanic, I'm pretty sure these people have a distinctive and different look.(click to show/hide)
So, uh, people with origins in Northern China and some common genetics with Slavic people?
A recent study has found that haplogroup NO of the Finno-Ugric peoples and their descendants probably spread north, then west and east from Northern China about 12,000–14,000 years ago from its father lineage and today is found in Eastern Europe.[20] The Department of Forensic Medicine at the University of Helsinki showed that most of the Finno-Ugric speaking populations possess an amalgamation of West and East Eurasian gene pools, supporting the idea of mixed origins in these modern populations.[14]
R1a1a7-M458
R1a1a7-M458 frequency peaks among Slavic and Finno-Ugric peoples.[21]
Anecdotal evidence best evidence.That's not an article about Finns, it's an article about Finno-Ugric people. You should do some reading on how genetics work, your understanding of the subject is as awful as your understanding of AI -- although you claim to have read about AI, so maybe it's not that you haven't read, it's that you don't understand what you read. Here's a pro tip: no one sprouts up from the ground and then remains 100% pure. Everyone has distant relatives from some other race.
As for the genetics part:So, uh, people with origins in Northern China and some common genetics with Slavic people?
Yes, Xant, I can totally see that German in you :lol:Yep.
Incidentally, why do you place such importance on being Germanic?Gee, I wonder why.
A lot of Finns have a very Germanic look.
fuck the tahir squar rape vid is haunting me all morning, I feel like constantly throwing up. fuck every excuse someone could find for the culprits, no sane person would ever do such a thing to another being.
anyone know if cruelty is an inherent character trait or acquired?
Many wordsThey're just labels, Xant, don't you see?
They're just labels, Xant, don't you see?
http://cdn-5.motorsport.com/static/img/mgl/200000/230000/231000/231500/231555/s1_1.jpg
Some famous Finns, any of them could be German or Swiss or from any Nordic country.
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Spanish people are so white... except Moroccans look whiter :?
Fools, Khand forgot more about Rassenlehre than any of you will ever dare to know.Paul-san, if I offended you with my talk of race, I apologize. I am a fool.
This is a blog with pictures of Finnish politicians from the right wing party "True Finns".
This is Finnish white people:
http://per-looks.tumblr.com/ (http://per-looks.tumblr.com/)
Guess who is Xant?(click to show/hide)
have they no mercy?
those eyebrows(click to show/hide)
That has convinced me. I apologize, Xant, clearly Finns have earned the status of Honorary Aryans(almost sounds like Honorary Asians, if you butcher the pronunciation).u wot m8
Maybe they couldn't find anyone willing and attractive with pale eyes (blue, green etc)? There probably are some people fitting that description (young, attractive, white complexity, pale eyes) but they don't want to have anything to do with their party. Those pictured proudly accepted to be on True Finn page, because it helps them to battle with their personal issues (mostly inferiority complex).It's not that surprising, True Finns is a "redneck" party that attracts uneducated trash. They got a lot of votes because they are/were the only anti-immigration party, only downside being that they're anti-immigration only because not liking foreigners is part of their redneck shtick, along with not reading books and saying retarded things while drunk.
That's a diseased looking lot. And in such high resolution, have they no mercy?
this guyNo. He is pink.(click to show/hide)
Is he white? Xant, please enlighten us.
This is a blog with pictures of Finnish politicians from the right wing party "True Finns".
This is Finnish white people:
http://per-looks.tumblr.com/ (http://per-looks.tumblr.com/)
fuck the tahir squar rape vid is haunting me all morning, I feel like constantly throwing up. fuck every excuse someone could find for the culprits, no sane person would ever do such a thing to another being.I've felt the same way, from both videos. Following your post yesterday I actually came here to ask if you still thought of Kant after looking at those. Right now I'm thinking a lot more about Nietzsche's morality than Kantian ethics.
How about Sweden?How is that even news? Sweden's been covering shit up for decades, to the point of photoshopping suspects white.
https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2054&artikel=6342236
What case is that, with the photoshopping?http://www.islamversuseurope.blogspot.pt/2012/03/phenomenon-swedish-pixelation.html
I've felt the same way, from both videos. Following your post yesterday I actually came here to ask if you still thought of Kant after looking at those. Right now I'm thinking a lot more about Nietzsche's morality than Kantian ethics.
I've felt the same way, from both videos. Following your post yesterday I actually came here to ask if you still thought of Kant after looking at those. Right now I'm thinking a lot more about Nietzsche's morality than Kantian ethics.
Master race(click to show/hide)
Atleast he isnt a potential rapist. Only person this guy could be harmful to, is himself. :lol:https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-atleast-and-at-least
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-atleast-and-at-least
No it's not a typo, I seriuslly dont know how to write. :D