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Title: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 01:44:03 am
If you see an enemy melee player hunting a ranged player of your team, leave him be. How many times you tried to slash a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, but a fellow melee enemy killed you?? It sucked right?? It made you wish that the enemy melee player couldve let you kill the ranged my old friendhomosexual player and then kill you.

Well guess what, from now on, everytime I see a fellow melee player hunting or duelling a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, I won`t do jack shit.

Ranged, you are the reason that servers are half dead peak time.

I beg all the melee players to do the same thing with me.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Tanken on December 14, 2013, 01:46:04 am
Ranged, you are the reason that servers are half dead peak time.

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Fuck that.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Grumbs on December 14, 2013, 01:48:30 am
Probably best at this point to just abandon battle. I'm going to try to get into Seige

If ranged only have ranged to shoot at they might find some FPS game to play instead, then we can repopulate battle
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 01:49:05 am
Power Draw requirement for xbows please.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: zagibu on December 14, 2013, 01:54:34 am
Simple solution: make them repurchase fired projectiles every round.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Fartface on December 14, 2013, 01:55:29 am
YEAH!!!
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: zagibu on December 14, 2013, 01:57:52 am
Oh and maybe implement bounce, so that non-bodkin arrows can't pierce mail and no projectile can pierce plate.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 02:00:10 am
Also ranged stun should be removed
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Sari on December 14, 2013, 02:01:05 am
Power Draw requirement for xbows please.

Then xbowers could use both bow and crossbow but I see where you are getting it. :wink:

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Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 02:05:53 am
Then xbowers could use both bow and crossbow but I see where you are getting it. :wink:

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No, PD requirement for crossbows only.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Prpavi on December 14, 2013, 02:21:11 am
shieldless melee is just painfully not fun. I really admire you guys still struggling on EU Battle you got nerves of steel imo.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Gmnotutoo on December 14, 2013, 02:29:43 am
If you see an enemy melee player hunting a ranged player of your team, leave him be. How many times you tried to slash a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, but a fellow melee enemy killed you?? It sucked right?? It made you wish that the enemy melee player couldve let you kill the ranged my old friendhomosexual player and then kill you.

Well guess what, from now on, everytime I see a fellow melee player hunting or duelling a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, I won`t do jack shit.

Ranged, you are the reason that servers are half dead peak time.

I beg all the melee players to do the same thing with me.

Most people will ignore you on your way to range if you hold up the universal sign of peace (up-blocking).
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 14, 2013, 02:35:01 am
Most people will ignore you on your way to range if you hold up the universal sign of peace (up-blocking).

I thought sign of peace was sheathing your weapon and blocking with fists?

If someone was coming at me up-blocking, I would think they be tryin to duel meh
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Gmnotutoo on December 14, 2013, 02:40:45 am
I thought sign of peace was sheathing your weapon and blocking with fists?

If someone was coming at me up-blocking, I would think they be tryin to duel meh

Only fools leave themselves defenseless.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Clockworkkiller on December 14, 2013, 02:46:59 am
Only fools leave themselves defenseless.

Dagger quick draw like a boss
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: XyNox on December 14, 2013, 05:01:26 am
This kind of behaviour is the case for like 2 years now anyway no ? That is actually the reason why I got 9 ath after the respec, so I can outrun my melee my old friendmates who are trying to leave me to the enemy. With 9 ath I can leave them to the enemy instead and lol at their patheticness while their plan backfires :lol:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 14, 2013, 05:14:42 am
This kind of behaviour is the case for like 2 years now anyway no ? That is actually the reason why I got 9 ath after the respec, so I can outrun my melee my old friendmates who are trying to leave me to the enemy. With 9 ath I can leave them to the enemy instead and lol at their patheticness while their plan backfires :lol:
You should always nudgenknockdown a ranged player before abandoning him.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Auphilia on December 14, 2013, 05:30:45 am
I think everything in this game should be super deadly. One arrow = wound or kill. One cut from a sword = wound or kill.
Heavy weapons should not only break through smaller ones, but they should destroy them after one successful block.

One good two-hander could theoretically cut down a room of archers, if they missed.
Alternatively, one really good archer could shoot down a room of melee (unless they had shields or HEAVY armor).

If everything were so deadly and everyone just died for the smallest mistakes, the community would be forced to use teamwork and protect teammates from their weaknesses.
Battles would be much faster paced and min-maxing wouldn't be so necessary. No one would care about nerfing this or buffing that because everything would be OP.

Right now there is just this migration of min-maxers who take advantage of circulating class population. I mean at this point everything in the game has been buffed and nerfed many times over. Maybe it is time to try something new.  :|
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Butan on December 14, 2013, 05:45:43 am
Maybe it is time to try something new.  :|

Play a different game, because on c-RPG if you add 1% to a weapon's base damage output, the whole community jump at your throat and devour your guts; your suggestions are too game-changing to even dream about going this way. But it has merits. Except when you take into account real-life armour penetration and other things, which causes damage to be nullified or reduced in certain situations. But if a game chose to forbid or heavily restrict the usage of heavy armor and shields, it could become like you think.


Well guess what, from now on, everytime I see a fellow melee player hunting or duelling a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, I won`t do jack shit.

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Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: oreshy on December 14, 2013, 05:57:01 am
oh look .. a panos fred.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 14, 2013, 07:01:25 am
If you see an enemy melee player hunting a ranged player of your team, leave him be. How many times you tried to slash a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, but a fellow melee enemy killed you?? It sucked right?? It made you wish that the enemy melee player couldve let you kill the ranged my old friendhomosexual player and then kill you.

Well guess what, from now on, everytime I see a fellow melee player hunting or duelling a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, I won`t do jack shit.

Ranged, you are the reason that servers are half dead peak time.

I beg all the melee players to do the same thing with me.
If you was a real melee enthusiast you'd tk the ranged my old friend.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Macropus on December 14, 2013, 08:56:55 am
If everything were so deadly and everyone just died for the smallest mistakes, the community would be forced to use teamwork and protect teammates from their weaknesses that would suck.
Battles would be much faster paced and min-maxing wouldn't be so necessary completely random. No one would care about nerfing this or buffing that because everything would be OP everyone would just quit.
Fixed.


On topic:
I suggest to start the Great Epic War Melee Vs Ranged.
No matter what team you are, fight any ranged you find. No matter what team you are, shoot any melee you see.
Whoever get's banned last wins.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: zagibu on December 14, 2013, 09:11:46 am
I think everything in this game should be super deadly. One arrow = wound or kill. One cut from a sword = wound or kill.

You hope you can get your first kill by getting lucky after this is implemented?
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 11:03:18 am
I pray for balancers to hear the whine..

But since this is a different approach, I would ask ranged players to reconsider their choice. But they probably won't change to a class where they just get shot all the time so yeah.. Nerf.  Gameplay sucks hard atm.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Gnjus on December 14, 2013, 11:06:08 am
I would ask ranged players to reconsider their choice


It's like asking Panos not to troll, insult & rage at other people. What do you thing the answer would be ?  :wink:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 11:39:09 am
Well as player numbers drop we are getting to the point where we have to realize we are a small and vulnerable community. Let's make crpg fun for ourselves..  But yeah, I'm a naive idiot. :D
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 11:41:26 am

It's like asking Panos not to troll, insult & rage at other people. What do you thing the answer would be ?  :wink:

When you play like a bitch, expect to be treated as one.

Players like you and Pandor, who hide and prefer to pew pew or run like hell when it`s time to melee fight make me rage , a lot.

But as I said already, when you play like a bitch, I`ll treat you as one, as long as you keep doing what you do now, I`ll keep taunting/insulting you evertyime I kill you.

Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 11:48:44 am
Shit just got personal!
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Umbra on December 14, 2013, 11:50:31 am
Buff HA please
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: bavvoz on December 14, 2013, 11:57:04 am
Ill do my part to decrease flying objects. xbav is lvl 30 and when hitting the next lvl ill retire and change it into a meleebuild. Until i hit 31 ill only bring the arbalest to dtv or if theres a ton of horse archers on eu1.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Alec on December 14, 2013, 12:06:19 pm
Sabjorn from now on you are my one and only cRPG god :!:  :wink:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 12:09:40 pm
Don't feed his ego too much! He will just think he's special and get banned again. He's a bit like a gremlin..
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 12:13:25 pm
Don't feed his ego too much! He will just think he's special and get banned again. He's a bit like a gremlin..


Are you challenging me to a duel?!?!?!  :lol:


Oh and something else, me and all the ex bandits, have a special relation, I may insult Gnjus, but that doesnt mean that he aint my friend, don`t forget that he was my mentor  :twisted: after all.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Umbra on December 14, 2013, 12:18:46 pm
What this mod desperately needs is a ranged buff. All the good ranged players are gone and the population has gone to shit. All i ever see on the server are 2h, hoplites and shielders. Make arrow weight lower and increase weapon variety for archers. Maybe an accuracy increase too, also introduce more types of arrows. Eu 1 has turned to melee only server and its disgusting.

Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 14, 2013, 12:19:34 pm
What this mod desperately needs is a ranged buff. All the good ranged players are gone and the population has gone to shit. All i ever see on the server are 2h, hoplites and shielders. Make arrow weight lower and increase weapon variety for archers. Maybe an accuracy increase too, also introduce more types of arrows. Eu 1 has turned to melee only server and its disgusting.


my sarcasm detector expoloded  :lol:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Gnjus on December 14, 2013, 12:29:32 pm
Shit just got personal!

No it ain't cause I know Pancake very well and his taunting can't insult me. Takes one to know one, takes one to handle one.  :wink:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Leshma on December 14, 2013, 01:32:14 pm
Pandor, who hide and prefer to pew pew or run like hell when it`s time to melee fight make me rage , a lot.

I love hunting that guy on strat. First, I was ignoring him. But then, he killed me couple of times in a row with a headshot. Now, whenever my team or I have nothing better to do and Pandor's hiding place is accessible, I will find him and kill him.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 14, 2013, 01:46:12 pm
Nice retard retort. But you know what the good thing is  about troll threads like this one or my earlier Truce with Archers/Ranged (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/all-archers-xbows-and-other-ranged-truce-parley-whatever-1-week)?

People get excited and mad, and show their true faces and intentions.

Read what melee (or better: a small group of whiners and duel elitists) had to say here and in their replies to my not so serious post, compare to archers not whining despite being murdered all the time, and draw your conclusions.

Quite simple.


Besides that:
I suggest to start the Great Epic War Melee Vs Ranged.

funny idea actually. And guess who will win? The ohhhh so OP archers with a little support from the few dedicated xbows, or the melange of shieldmy old friends, half-melee xbows, half-melee throwers and plated armor crutchers charging at them... LOL mucho... But worth a try. Lets set up something like this as a Strat battle. One team melee only, no ranged support. other team all ranged and only 0 slot melee weapons. Open field battle, no siege or village that would give the ranged team a slight advantage. Would be an interesting (and very short) demonstration.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Tindel on December 14, 2013, 01:46:21 pm
So come play siege then, where the team with most ranged tend to lose.
Where there hardly is any cav, and manly men can spam at the flag FOREVER AND EVER!

Or add objectives to battle, so infantry has a purpose on that server.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: jtobiasm on December 14, 2013, 02:06:24 pm
Panos, tell me when your on eu1 please. I'll shoot fk out of you and only you.

;DDDDDDDDD
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Kafein on December 14, 2013, 02:22:55 pm
Nice retard retort. But you know what the good thing is  about troll threads like this one or my earlier Truce with Archers/Ranged (http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/all-archers-xbows-and-other-ranged-truce-parley-whatever-1-week)?

People get excited and mad, and show their true faces and intentions.

Read what melee (or better: a small group of whiners and duel elitists) had to say here and in their replies to my not so serious post, compare to archers not whining despite being murdered all the time, and draw your conclusions.

Quite simple.


Besides that:
funny idea actually. And guess who will win? The ohhhh so OP archers with a little support from the few dedicated xbows, or the melange of shieldmy old friends, half-melee xbows, half-melee throwers and plated armor crutchers charging at them... LOL mucho... But worth a try. Lets set up something like this as a Strat battle. One team melee only, no ranged support. other team all ranged and only 0 slot melee weapons. Open field battle, no siege or village that would give the ranged team a slight advantage. Would be an interesting (and very short) demonstration.

The reason people take these threads seriously is because there is a real urgency that you do not seem to perceive.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Ronin on December 14, 2013, 02:24:05 pm
I suggest to do the opposite, which is called teamwork.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Prpavi on December 14, 2013, 02:25:56 pm
The reason people take these threads seriously is because there is a real urgency that you do not seem to perceive.

He doesn't even play on Eu servers, why even bother...
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 14, 2013, 02:28:16 pm
I suggest to do the opposite, which is called teamwork.

but...but.... that would require to do disgusting things like
- protecting your archers
- using strategy and formations
- covering your flanks
- holding positions

...and worst of all:
NOT charging in as a wild mob to do some gangbanging and dueling and later complain about the remaining HA because all team archers were abandoned...

SO: NO teamwerk. Nevar. Evar.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Prpavi on December 14, 2013, 02:35:32 pm
Let me ask you Hirlok, how many classes have you played in this game and how many gens?
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 14, 2013, 02:41:44 pm
Let me ask you Hirlok, how many classes have you played in this game and how many gens?

31 gens on main, plus alts in almost any class except cav, which I despise.
I suck in melee classes with my 200 ping, but still having fun with my agi shielder or my str polearmer, and no need to whine.


Oh, and actually I do play on EU quite a bit, usually with my xbow alt, mostly siege because NA siege is empty way too often, but also EU1, just to see if there is some reason for the whining. And nope, nothing out of the order there.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Prpavi on December 14, 2013, 02:49:59 pm
How many of those were on EU Battle servers recently? Because you clearly have no understending of how different the two servers are yet you somehow feel you have the authority to preach to EU melee players in a really condescending manner about the topic that frankly you have little to no knowledge about.

Please stop that, constructive criticism and debate is always welcome and sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 14, 2013, 02:57:44 pm
How many of those were on EU Battle servers recently? Because you clearly have no understending of how different the two servers are yet you somehow feel you have the authority to preach to EU melee players in a really condescending manner about the topic that frankly you have little to no knowledge about.

Please stop that, constructive criticism and debate is always welcome and sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.

....so is constant fact-free whining that - if taken serious by the devs - would affect ALL c-rpg players, not just the EU1 fetish group.

But hey - this morning (my time) - about 55 people on EU1, incl. one well known pain-in-the-ass HA, archers getting murdered, melee dicking it out at end of round as usual, one HA delaying because team archers dead. Scoreboard dominated by the usual classes. Nothing new with that, all good.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Fartface on December 14, 2013, 03:00:36 pm
OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Thomek on December 14, 2013, 03:04:18 pm
OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.

No, melee players defending ranged are traitor scum even worse than ranged!
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Prpavi on December 14, 2013, 03:09:24 pm
....so is constant fact-free whining that - if taken serious by the devs - would affect ALL c-rpg players, not just the EU1 fetish group.

But hey - this morning (my time) - about 55 people on EU1, incl. one well known pain-in-the-ass HA, archers getting murdered, melee dicking it out at end of round as usual, one HA delaying because team archers dead. Scoreboard dominated by the usual classes. Nothing new with that, all good.


sarcasm is fun, but there is a line where it becomes annoying and arrogant.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Fartface on December 14, 2013, 03:21:09 pm
True dat.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 14, 2013, 03:22:01 pm
...

nope, just facts and observations. I have yet to see one scoreboard or log that shows anything but the fact that there are still some ranged people in this game and that occasionally they get a kill as well (usually by killing other ranged).
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Araxiel on December 14, 2013, 03:32:10 pm
OR all melee players should defend there own ranged so that there ranged can take out the enemy ranged.
That won't happen. Ranged will still shoot melee players.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Fartface on December 14, 2013, 03:37:38 pm
Thought so.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Tindel on December 14, 2013, 06:38:29 pm
there are more people playing DTV now than battle in EU,
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Leshma on December 14, 2013, 07:04:50 pm
Two and a half solutions to that problem. First, lower DTV rewards and piss off regular DTV players. Which will leave us with even less active players.

Or buff battle/siege XP/gold rewards.

Or obliterate archery so people once again start enjoying battle mod.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: tizzango on December 14, 2013, 07:17:34 pm
I'm really excited to start playing again so I can see what all this ranged fuss is about. As you all probably know, i'm the best 2h this community has ever seen, and I still enjoyed myself on EU1.

Albeit I have specced to a shielder after watching the Spartacus series :D
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Trikipum on December 15, 2013, 07:37:07 am
Oh and maybe implement bounce, so that non-bodkin arrows can't pierce mail and no projectile can pierce plate.

Just that most non bodkin arrows actually pierce chainmail, barbed arrows are better in RL for it. What we call ingame "tatar" will bounce with chain armor. They are actually considered another kind of bodkin arrow by others. Barbed arrows pierce mail as good as bodkins, and their wounds are way nastier. And bodkin arrows are pretty bad vs plate armor. This is talking about relatetively short distances 15-20 meters. More than that is just a game of angles, forces, material qualities, craftmanship and luck.  Actually, best defense against arrows is made with steel plates or clothes (or a mix of both).

Chain mail isnt good against any kind of proyectile at 20 meter. Im up for realistic armors but i think it would require a very well made fatigue/stamina system. Oh and of course. Plate armor gives more mobility and less movement restriction than chain mail. This stuff is so full of myths. BTW the bouncing arrow is there for very high armor values but it doesnt happen enough times. There are some serious researches around internet about the subject if you care to search for a long while.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Strudog on December 15, 2013, 11:15:14 am
31 gens on main, plus alts in almost any class except cav, which I despise.
I suck in melee classes with my 200 ping, but still having fun with my agi shielder or my str polearmer, and no need to whine.


Oh, and actually I do play on EU quite a bit, usually with my xbow alt, mostly siege because NA siege is empty way too often, but also EU1, just to see if there is some reason for the whining. And nope, nothing out of the order there.

When you play ranged you dont feel the difference, when i played xbow i felt that there wasnt too many ranged, because i shot them all, but when i play shielder, it seems like the only thing that is hitting your shield is arrows.

You know when archers have too many arrows that they will waste 3-5 arrows on your shield
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Teeth on December 15, 2013, 11:58:33 am
Just GTX EU_1, it is pretty hard to count but I think I got to 23/54 being ranged. I think about 5 horse archers, 12 archers, 4 crossbowmen and 2 throwers.

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Good luck fighting that, we can all pretend like the teamwork argument is going to work this time, but until something is done about the amount of ranged and especially archers, I'll be on EU_2 or not playing at all.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Arthur_ on December 15, 2013, 12:01:22 pm
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Nothing to say here
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 12:21:15 pm
When you play ranged you dont feel the difference, when i played xbow i felt that there wasnt too many ranged, because i shot them all, but when i play shielder, it seems like the only thing that is hitting your shield is arrows.

You know when archers have too many arrows that they will waste 3-5 arrows on your shield

Archers rarely "waste" arrows on shields. The better ones know what shields have been made virtually unbreakable anyways (NERFFFFF!!!! WHINE!!!!!!), and in all other cases it is a) good sports to try and hit an unaware shielder that is too stupid to hold the shield right or to shoot uncovered areas (from shield skill 7 up they usually have that arrow-soaking "aura" around them - NERFFFF!!!!! WHINE!!!! - where you can do nothing about as ranged, but worth a try...) and b) it is part of our job to weaken shields so they break or break on first contact with melee. I have smashed many shields in my str archer days and helped my teammates quite a bit with that (ok, sometimes shooting the teammate in the process, LOL)

 BTW yesterday ran around with my almost naked str pole gal - and she got shot at quite a bit, hit a few times, and even died to arrows/bolts twice. Died to melee about 10 times in the same time... 

But: whatever.

The current wave of anti-archerism is just another incarnation of the the bi-monthly "remove archery from mod plox" propaganda, so my fault to feed any fish to the trolls anyways :) So - let the hate out, folks,  it makes you stronnnnnng. I am out of this discussion. What had to be said, was said - and devs will do what devs will do, LOL. It won't be many months anyways until we all have to adopt to some new (BROKEN!!!! NERFFFFF!!!!!) game mechanics anyways (Bannerlord and/or M:BG)

So:

Kudos and much love to my melee friends and hate-friends :) on NA - many decent, non-whiney guys among them, have taken many of my arrows to the face or the butt like men with honor and murdered me countless times in exchange ;-)
Good guys -  almost could be archers.  :D
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: bavvoz on December 15, 2013, 12:31:09 pm
Its not just the regular op this, nerf that sadly. Since the free respec patch (WHY????) Ppl are fleeing. Several ppl quit the mod and even more refuse to play battle mode.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: 722_ on December 15, 2013, 12:31:53 pm
Do I smell a melee versus ranged event?
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 12:34:13 pm
Do I smell a melee versus ranged event?

All for it  :mrgreen:

Since the free respec patch (WHY????) Ppl are fleeing.
Many incl. me are a bit pissed with the new WP/WPF system and all the resulting agi whoring across all classes...
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 12:39:44 pm
All for it  :mrgreen:

what event??

95% of the ranged player base, can`t block more than two hits in a row..
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 12:41:56 pm
what event??

95% of the ranged player base, can`t block more than two hits in a row..

I thought they were insanely OP and no shielder would ever reach them alive through the rain of their oh-so-deadly projectiles???  :mrgreen:
No need for blocking then.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Alec on December 15, 2013, 12:47:45 pm
I thought they were insanely OP and no shielder would ever reach them alive through the rain of their oh-so-deadly projectiles???  :mrgreen:
No need for blocking then.

We can reach them, but they simply run away. And as we have to wear tons of armour to survive we are like turtles hunting down ...(some shit fast animal here).
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Hirlok on December 15, 2013, 01:02:42 pm
We can reach them, but they simply run away. And as we have to wear tons of armour to survive we are like turtles hunting down ...(some shit fast animal here).

thanks for clearing that up. some propaganda specialist wanted to tell us that 3 archers vs 3 shielders would win... LOL
Running: myth. Only if it is a troll archer with shortbow/1 quiver/tunic/knife - or if he drops his bow.
My bow + 2 quivers weight more than your armor combined, and opposite to you no decent archer has points to waste on ath (unless he is lvl 43 like Steevee)...

but I forgot I wanted to waste time on other things than this discussion :) - Hirlok over and out, let me know guys in case there is some funny 30 archers&xbows vs 30 melee guys event ;-)
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Umbra on December 15, 2013, 01:08:25 pm
2 archers won vs 2 shielders a couple of hours ago on EU 1
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: //saxon on December 15, 2013, 01:14:04 pm
If you see an enemy melee player hunting a ranged player of your team, leave him be. How many times you tried to slash a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, but a fellow melee enemy killed you?? It sucked right?? It made you wish that the enemy melee player couldve let you kill the ranged my old friendhomosexual player and then kill you.

Well guess what, from now on, everytime I see a fellow melee player hunting or duelling a ranged my old friendhomosexual player, I won`t do jack shit.

Ranged, you are the reason that servers are half dead peak time.

I beg all the melee players to do the same thing with me.
if its a clan-mate, i will have to step in, but otherwise i can go by this one rule.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 15, 2013, 01:15:50 pm
^ I dunno why, but my weapon got bugged when you were dueling those 2 ranged my old friends homosexuals  :twisted:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Kafein on December 15, 2013, 01:44:34 pm
thanks for clearing that up. some propaganda specialist wanted to tell us that 3 archers vs 3 shielders would win... LOL

Care to explain how the shielders are supposed to do it ?
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Arthur_ on December 15, 2013, 01:44:44 pm
thanks for clearing that up. some propaganda specialist wanted to tell us that 3 archers vs 3 shielders would win... LOL
Running: myth. Only if it is a troll archer with shortbow/1 quiver/tunic/knife - or if he drops his bow.
My bow + 2 quivers weight more than your armor combined, and opposite to you no decent archer has points to waste on ath (unless he is lvl 43 like Steevee)...

but I forgot I wanted to waste time on other things than this discussion :) - Hirlok over and out, let me know guys in case there is some funny 30 archers&xbows vs 30 melee guys event ;-)

are you retarded ? You are playing the wrong game man... Archers are over every class right now, and a shield is just a fun target for an archer
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Leshma on December 15, 2013, 01:55:23 pm
2 archers won vs 2 shielders a couple of hours ago on EU 1

That's not hard. ROBINHOOD was able to pull that off regularly with any half competent archer. But they don't have to shoot the shielders, just drop the bow, pick up any axe and abuse kick swing combo :lol:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Oberyn on December 15, 2013, 01:58:00 pm
Or just run off in opposite directions then shoot whatever shielder is chasing the other archer. my old friendchers and xbows spreading out and creating areas of crossfire as they fall back, on hills or other high ground if possible, has been regular tactic for ages now. Not sure who said archers kiting was a "myth", but I'm doubting whether they've ever played this game.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: jtobiasm on December 15, 2013, 02:21:53 pm
@Hirlok, Please stop, your making it bad for us archers. Kiting is still a viable option as long as you use your brain and run a little bit earlier.
Here is a tip, don't get into a situation where u have to kite in the 1st place.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: djavo on December 15, 2013, 02:36:10 pm
Too all melee:

Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: tizzango on December 15, 2013, 10:03:46 pm
I'm really sorry, but 3 archers vs 3 shielders.

Surely that is no contest. Any half competent shielder knows how to play that situation, I'm really not buying it.

Fair enough if the shielder is playing on the lowest sensitivity, and cant turn in time to catch the arrows.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Macropus on December 15, 2013, 10:26:10 pm
As long as I kill archers more than they kill me, I'm fine with them.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: sF_Guardian on December 15, 2013, 10:32:32 pm
Well, tell me if the game is fun again, ranged got me out of it for now.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Fartface on December 15, 2013, 10:59:56 pm
I find EU2 boring because it lacks excitement and punishement for bad decision making, EU1 feels like counter strike so it's time for a break I think.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on December 15, 2013, 11:57:18 pm
Not setting foot in EU_1 until something is fixed, NA servers are nicer anyhow.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Tzar on December 28, 2013, 05:51:59 pm
 :(
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Arthur_ on December 28, 2013, 07:45:41 pm
Not setting foot in EU_1 until something is fixed, NA servers are nicer anyhow.


Byznatium donkey rush into NA event incoming??
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: SMEGMAR on December 28, 2013, 07:46:31 pm
Ranged is fine.
Melee is linear sword-mush thanks to Tydeus.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Corsair831 on December 28, 2013, 08:05:37 pm
oh panos, you're such a panos
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 28, 2013, 08:10:25 pm
oh panos, you're such a panos

shut your mouth
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Uther Pendragon on December 28, 2013, 08:12:14 pm
shut your mouth
this sentence lacks a few words
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Panos_ on December 28, 2013, 08:13:52 pm
My Panos senses are telling me that cmp is lurking  :lol:
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: Umbra on December 28, 2013, 08:39:15 pm
My Panos senses are telling me that cmp is lurking  :lol:

Link in my sig
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: kinngrimm on December 29, 2013, 02:38:03 am
Hirlok you are all about qq because of hate and rage against the poor ranged players. How would you like to have a real reason so your propaganda BS gets a bit more juicy?

Panos you think upgrading your rules by one more could make sense? or should i make a new topic for it?

"when getting shot by friendly ranged, ALLWAYS ctrl+M"

Just to let ranged know how much we appreciat them and we dont want to wait for devs to take care of this problem ... which could still take ages.


EDIT:
again as hirlok and others like him, like to point out all the propaganda against them, lets start this party for real, shouldnt we?
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/time-to-end-the-range-whine/msg925178/#msg925178

all who feel that there is too much ranged ...  feel free to change your sig in a similar way to spread the word.
Title: Re: All melee players should show understanding to each other.
Post by: SMEGMAR on December 29, 2013, 03:34:50 am
Hirlok you are all about qq because of hate and rage against the poor ranged players. How would you like to have a real reason so your propaganda BS gets a bit more juicy?

Panos you think upgrading your rules by one more could make sense? or should i make a new topic for it?

"when getting shot by friendly ranged, ALLWAYS ctrl+M"

Just to let ranged know how much we appreciat them and we dont want to wait for devs to take care of this problem ... which could still take ages.


EDIT:
again as hirlok and others like him, like to point out all the propaganda against them, lets start this party for real, shouldnt we?
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/time-to-end-the-range-whine/msg925178/#msg925178

all who feel that there is too much ranged ...  feel free to change your sig in a similar way to spread the word.

gibberish