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cRPG => Announcements => Topic started by: chadz on November 18, 2013, 05:28:51 pm

Title: 0.3.1.0
Post by: chadz on November 18, 2013, 05:28:51 pm
Urist: -dead commanders cant chat
Urist: - showing correct respawn time to players now
Urist: -increased commander poll timeout to 5 minutes for a single player
Urist: -siege respawn timer adjustments
Urist: -fix for siege respawn
Urist: -added roll to strat
jacko: Map update
Urist: -slight adjustment to PD malus
Urist: -nudge: modified shove distance by str difference and gave pommel strike bonus damage when having higher str than the victim
Urist: -reduced wpf malus from power throw
10.11.2013 Fips - Added Updates for: dtv_arena, dtv_sea_raid, dtv_thermopylae
08.11.2013 Fips - Added dtv maps: dtv_arena, dtv_defend_the_fort, dtv_desert_mountains, dtv_grunwalder_castle, dtv_istiniar, dtv_ozin_sea_raid, dtv_sea_raid, dtv_thermopylae, dtv_turin_castle, dtv_uzgha
03.11.2013 Fips - Fixed Defender Spawns at helms_deep
Urist: -added melee synergy to wpf
Harald: Added display of effective wpf due to melee bonus.
Tydeus: Added LODs for new helmets
Tydeus: Reduced bow and crossbow accuracy for all waves above weabobs
Shik: minor nerf to some bot stats, two new dtv waves
Fips: Added dtv maps: helms_deep_isengard, helms_deep_rohan
Harald: Added renown ladder.
Harald: Skip 1/3 rule if attacker has at least 1800 troops.
Urist: added sound for using doors
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_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Longsword                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                                       | 25 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Great Sword                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 25 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Two Handed Sword                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 94                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Sword of War                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 28 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Dark Hauberk                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Dark Hauberk                  |
| gold                                               |                                | 4239                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 9                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 10.3                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 37                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 10                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heraldic Brigandine                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Heraldic Brigandine           |
| gold                                               |                                | 17255                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.2                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 50                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 20                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Short Arming Sword                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Espada Eslavona                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 102                            | 101                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Blue Kaftan                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Blue Kaftan                   |
| gold                                               |                                | 105                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 7                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 14                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 6                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Bastard Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 98                            |
| swing damage                                       | 24 cut                         | 30 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Voulge (Primary)                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 35 cut                         | 42 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Bastard Sword                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 23 cut                         | 29 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heraldic Tabard                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Heraldic Tabard               |
| gold                                               |                                | 8766                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 14.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 46                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 6                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Broad Short Sword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 27 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] German Greatsword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 86                             | 88                            |
| swing damage                                       | 27 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Espada Eslavona                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Tatar Bow                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 66                             | 65                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Bow                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 103                            | 104                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Danish Greatsword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Highland Claymore                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Awlpike                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 88                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Awlpike                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 91                             | 90                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Ashwood Pike                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 92                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Voulge                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 40 cut                         | 43 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Horned Great Helmet                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Horned Great Helmet           |
| gold                                               |                                | 7513                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.4                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 55                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Scottish Sword                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Short Bow                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 63                             | 62                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Side Sword                                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Rondel Dagger (Primary)                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 112                            | 110                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Nomad Bow                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 69                             | 68                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 6307                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 12.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 38                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 20                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Munitions Pot Helmet                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Munitions Pot Helmet          |
| gold                                               |                                | 5645                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 50                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Munitions Helmet                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Munitions Helmet              |
| gold                                               |                                | 4994                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 48                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Horn Bow                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Flambard (Primary)                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Flambard                      |
| gold                                               |                                | 13879                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 94                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 20 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 40 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Great Helmet with Coif                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Great Helmet with Coif        |
| gold                                               |                                | 7930                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.5                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 56                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] German Poleaxe                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 28 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] French Pepperpot Helmet                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | French Pepperpot Helmet       |
| gold                                               |                                | 6723                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] French Pepperpot Helm                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | French Pepperpot Helm         |
| gold                                               |                                | 6723                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Great Sword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 87                             | 89                            |
| swing damage                                       | 28 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Practice Longsword                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 12 blunt                       | 16 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Estoc (Primary)                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Estoc                         |
| gold                                               |                                | 12297                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 107                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 99                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 30 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 28 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Yumi                                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heraldic Tunic                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Heraldic Tunic                |
| gold                                               |                                | 18000                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.9                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 20                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 10101                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 12                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 15.7                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 45                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 15                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Pepperpot Helmet                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Pepperpot Helmet              |
| gold                                               |                                | 5645                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 50                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Heavy Lance                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 24 pierce                      | 25 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] French Pepperpot                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | French Pepperpot              |
| gold                                               |                                | 5313                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.8                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 49                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Rus Bow                                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 102                            | 103                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Fighting Pick                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 24 blunt                       | 23 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Flambard                                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Flambard                      |
| gold                                               |                                | 13879                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 94                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 26 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 38 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Blue Flat Topped Helmet                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Blue Flat Topped Helmet       |
| gold                                               |                                | 2287                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 37                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 0                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Dark Hauberk                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Dark Hauberk            |
| gold                                               |                                | 5723                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 9                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 10.3                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 38                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 11                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Two Handed Sword                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 94                            |
| swing damage                                       | 27 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Great Sword                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Sword of War                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Heraldic Brigandine                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Heraldic Brigandine     |
| gold                                               |                                | 23294                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.2                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 21                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Blue Flat Topped Helmet                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Blue Flat Topped Helmet |
| gold                                               |                                | 3087                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 38                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick French Pepperpot Helmet                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick French Pepperpot Helmet |
| gold                                               |                                | 9076                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 54                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Great Helmet with Coif                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Great Helmet with Coif  |
| gold                                               |                                | 10706                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.5                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 57                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick French Pepperpot Helm                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick French Pepperpot Helm   |
| gold                                               |                                | 9076                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 54                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Pepperpot Helmet                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Pepperpot Helmet        |
| gold                                               |                                | 7621                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick French Pepperpot                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick French Pepperpot        |
| gold                                               |                                | 7173                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.8                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 50                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Short Arming Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 13636                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 12                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 15.7                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 46                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 16                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Heavy Great Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 87                             | 89                            |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Flambard (Primary)                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Tempered Flambard             |
| gold                                               |                                | 20819                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 94                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 21 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 41 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered German Greatsword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 86                             | 88                            |
| swing damage                                       | 28 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Estoc (Primary)                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Tempered Estoc                |
| gold                                               |                                | 18446                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 107                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 99                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 31 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 29 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Long Espada Eslavona                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Heavy Bastard Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 98                            |
| swing damage                                       | 25 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Espada Eslavona                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 102                            | 101                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 32 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Danish Greatsword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 32 cut                         | 38 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Heraldic Tunic                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Heraldic Tunic          |
| gold                                               |                                | 24300                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.9                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 52                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 21                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Flambard                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Tempered Flambard             |
| gold                                               |                                | 20819                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 94                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 27 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 39 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Scottish Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Commoner's Practice Longsword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 13 blunt                       | 17 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Commoner's Rondel Dagger (Primary)             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 112                            | 110                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Highland Claymore                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 32 cut                         | 38 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Side Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Heraldic Tabard                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Heraldic Tabard         |
| gold                                               |                                | 11834                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 14.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 47                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 7                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy German Poleaxe                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 29 pierce                      | 31 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Long Voulge                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 41 cut                         | 44 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Voulge (Primary)                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 36 cut                         | 43 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Horned Great Helmet                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Horned Great Helmet     |
| gold                                               |                                | 10143                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.4                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 56                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Heavy Fighting Pick                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 25 blunt                       | 24 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Bastard Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 24 cut                         | 30 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Heavy Lance                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Long Awlpike                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 88                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Awlpike                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 91                             | 90                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Deadly Ashwood Pike                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 92                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Tatar Bow                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 66                             | 65                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Sturdy Blue Kaftan                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Sturdy Blue Kaftan            |
| gold                                               |                                | 126                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 7                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 15                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 7                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Long Bow                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 103                            | 104                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Longsword                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 95                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Munitions Helmet                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Munitions Helmet        |
| gold                                               |                                | 6742                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 49                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Tempered Broad Short Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 8514                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 12.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 39                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 21                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Thick Munitions Pot Helmet                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Munitions Pot Helmet    |
| gold                                               |                                | 7621                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 1                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Yumi                                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Rus Bow                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 102                            | 103                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Short Bow                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 63                             | 62                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Nomad Bow                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 69                             | 68                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [1] Strong Horn Bow                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Munitions Pot Helmet                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Munitions Pot Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 9032                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Heraldic Tunic                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Heraldic Tunic     |
| gold                                               |                                | 28800                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.9                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 54                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 23                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 10091                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 12.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 41                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 23                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Munitions Helmet                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Munitions Helmet   |
| gold                                               |                                | 7990                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Horned Great Helmet                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Horned Great Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 12021                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.4                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 58                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 16162                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 12                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 15.7                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 48                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 18                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Sharp Bodkin Arrows                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 18                             | 19                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Sharp Barbed Arrows                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 24                             | 25                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Sharp Arrows                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| max ammo                                           | 29                             | 30                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Heraldic Tabard                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Heraldic Tabard    |
| gold                                               |                                | 14026                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 14.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 49                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 9                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Yumi                                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Bastard Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 25 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Espada Eslavona                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 32 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Long Espada Eslavona                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Estoc (Primary)                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Balanced Estoc                |
| gold                                               |                                | 22135                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 107                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 100                           |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 31 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 29 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Bastard Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 100                           |
| swing damage                                       | 24 cut                         | 30 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Long Awlpike                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 89                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Danish Greatsword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 32 cut                         | 38 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Highland Claymore                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 32 cut                         | 38 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Ashwood Pike                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 94                             | 93                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Awlpike                               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 91                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Fighting Pick                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 25 blunt                       | 24 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Flambard (Primary)                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Balanced Flambard             |
| gold                                               |                                | 24982                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 95                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 21 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 41 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Short Arming Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 104                            | 103                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 29 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Sword of War                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Great Sword                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Two Handed Sword                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 95                            |
| swing damage                                       | 27 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Side Sword                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Scottish Sword                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 104                            | 103                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Flambard                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Balanced Flambard             |
| gold                                               |                                | 24982                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 95                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 27 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 39 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Great Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Heavy Lance                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 25 pierce                      | 26 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced German Greatsword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 87                             | 89                            |
| swing damage                                       | 28 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Broad Short Sword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 28 pierce                      | 27 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Heraldic Brigandine                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Heraldic Brigandine|
| gold                                               |                                | 27608                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.2                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 23                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Dark Hauberk                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Dark Hauberk       |
| gold                                               |                                | 6782                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 9                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 10.3                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 40                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 13                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Voulge (Primary)                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 37 cut                         | 44 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful Long Voulge                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 42 cut                         | 45 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Blue Flat Topped Helmet             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Blue Flat Topped Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 3659                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 40                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced French Pepperpot                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced French Pepperpot   |
| gold                                               |                                | 8501                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.8                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 52                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced French Pepperpot Helmet             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced French Pepperpot Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 10757                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 56                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced French Pepperpot Helm               | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced French Pepperpot Helm|
| gold                                               |                                | 10757                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 56                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Pepperpot Helmet                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Pepperpot Helmet   |
| gold                                               |                                | 9032                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Powerful German Poleaxe                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 30 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Villager's Practice Longsword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 13 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Long Bow                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 103                            | 104                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Tatar Bow                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 66                             | 65                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Thick Blue Kaftan                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Thick Blue Kaftan             |
| gold                                               |                                | 142                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 7                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 16                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 8                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Balanced Longsword                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 98                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Nomad Bow                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 69                             | 68                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Short Bow                                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 63                             | 62                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Villager's Rondel Dagger (Primary)             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 112                            | 110                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 33 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Rus Bow                                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 102                            | 103                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Fine Horn Bow                                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [2] Reinforced Great Helmet with Coif              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Great Helmet with Coif|
| gold                                               |                                | 12688                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.5                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 59                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 2                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Awlpike                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 92                             | 91                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Munitions Pot Helmet                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Munitions Pot Helmet   |
| gold                                               |                                | 10726                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 55                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Munitions Helmet                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Munitions Helmet       |
| gold                                               |                                | 9489                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 53                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Long Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 11983                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 12.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 43                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 25                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Horned Great Helmet                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Horned Great Helmet    |
| gold                                               |                                | 14275                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.4                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 60                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Heraldic Tunic                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Heraldic Tunic         |
| gold                                               |                                | 34200                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.9                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 56                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 25                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Heraldic Tabard                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Heraldic Tabard        |
| gold                                               |                                | 16655                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 14.5                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 51                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 11                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Longsword                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 98                            |
| swing damage                                       | 27 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Highland Claymore                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 33 cut                         | 40 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Danish Greatsword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 89                             | 91                            |
| swing damage                                       | 33 cut                         | 40 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork German Greatsword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 87                             | 89                            |
| swing damage                                       | 29 cut                         | 35 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Broad Short Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 30 pierce                      | 29 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Short Heraldic Surcoat Over Mail|
| gold                                               |                                | 19192                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 12                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 15.7                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 50                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 20                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Great Helmet with Coif                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Great Helmet with Coif |
| gold                                               |                                | 15067                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.5                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 61                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Elder's Rondel Dagger (Primary)                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 113                            | 111                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 34 pierce                      | 31 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Dark Hauberk                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Dark Hauberk           |
| gold                                               |                                | 8054                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 9                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 10.3                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 42                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 15                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Elder's Practice Longsword                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 91                             | 93                            |
| swing damage                                       | 14 blunt                       | 18 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Deadly Fighting Pick                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 27 blunt                       | 26 blunt                      |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Reinforced Blue Kaftan                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Reinforced Blue Kaftan        |
| gold                                               |                                | 168                           |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 7                             |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| body armor                                         |                                | 18                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 10                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Heraldic Brigandine                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Heraldic Brigandine    |
| gold                                               |                                | 32785                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 20.2                          |
| body armor                                         |                                | 55                            |
| leg armor                                          |                                | 25                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Blue Flat Topped Helmet                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Blue Flat Topped Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 4345                          |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 10                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 42                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly French Pepperpot Helmet                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly French Pepperpot Helmet|
| gold                                               |                                | 12774                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 58                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly French Pepperpot Helm                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly French Pepperpot Helm  |
| gold                                               |                                | 12774                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 3.2                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 58                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly Pepperpot Helmet                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly Pepperpot Helmet       |
| gold                                               |                                | 10726                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 14                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.9                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 55                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Lordly French Pepperpot                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Lordly French Pepperpot       |
| gold                                               |                                | 10095                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 13                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.8                           |
| head armor                                         |                                | 54                            |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Ashwood Pike                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 94                             | 93                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Long Awlpike                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 89                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Short Arming Sword                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 104                            | 103                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 31 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Sword of War                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 30 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Horn Bow                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Side Sword                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 32 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Short Bow                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 63                             | 62                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Great Sword                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 90                             | 92                            |
| swing damage                                       | 27 cut                         | 33 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Two Handed Sword                    | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 93                             | 95                            |
| swing damage                                       | 28 cut                         | 34 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Long Voulge                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 43 cut                         | 46 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty German Poleaxe                          | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 30 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Yumi                                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 60                             | 59                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Rus Bow                             | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 103                            | 104                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Scottish Sword                      | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 104                            | 103                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 33 pierce                      | 31 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Nomad Bow                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 69                             | 68                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Long Espada Eslavona                | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 32 pierce                      | 30 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Estoc (Primary)                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Masterwork Estoc              |
| gold                                               |                                | 25824                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 11                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 1.7                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 107                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 100                           |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 32 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 30 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Espada Eslavona                     | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 103                            | 102                           |
| thrust damage                                      | 34 pierce                      | 32 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Bastard Sword                 | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 96                             | 99                            |
| swing damage                                       | 26 cut                         | 32 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Bastard Sword                       | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 97                             | 100                           |
| swing damage                                       | 25 cut                         | 31 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Flambard (Primary)                  | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Masterwork Flambard           |
| gold                                               |                                | 29146                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 95                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 22 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 43 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback, Secondary Mode|
| primary                                            |                                | 1                             |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Flambard                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| name                                               |                                | Masterwork Flambard           |
| gold                                               |                                | 29146                         |
| difficulty                                         |                                | 15                            |
| weight                                             |                                | 2.5                           |
| weapon length                                      |                                | 117                           |
| speed rating                                       |                                | 95                            |
| thrust damage                                      |                                | 28 pierce                     |
| swing damage                                       |                                | 41 cut                        |
| slots                                              |                                | 2                             |
| perks                                              |                                | Can't use on horseback        |
| heirloom rank                                      |                                | 3                             |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Long Bow                            | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| accuracy                                           | 104                            | 105                           |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Tatar Bow                           | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 66                             | 65                            |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Lance                         | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| thrust damage                                      | 27 pierce                      | 28 pierce                     |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Masterwork Heavy Great Sword                   | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 30 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [3] Mighty Voulge (Primary)                        | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| swing damage                                       | 38 cut                         | 45 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: cmp on November 18, 2013, 05:29:49 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: karasu on November 18, 2013, 05:30:11 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Fips on November 18, 2013, 05:30:41 pm
Pras!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Tydeus on November 18, 2013, 05:34:22 pm
Triple melee hybrids look fun, especially with those 2h alt mode changes. :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Algarn on November 18, 2013, 05:35:12 pm
Urist: -slight adjustment to PD malus

Reduced or increased ?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Segd on November 18, 2013, 05:38:39 pm
Harald: Skip 1/3 rule if attacker has at least 1800 troops.
Rise EU warriors! Time to bring death! :twisted:

Where is this renown ladder located?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Tydeus on November 18, 2013, 05:39:47 pm
Reduced or increased ?
Depends on how much PD you have. Mostly it just reimburses the very high PD builds so that they don't become shit. It shouldn't really change anything for anyone else.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Algarn on November 18, 2013, 05:40:23 pm
So, the malus is reduced with 8 PD , right ?  :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 05:43:36 pm
lel no 1h stab nerf, joke is on you suckers :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Tydeus on November 18, 2013, 05:44:05 pm
So, the malus is reduced with 8 PD , right ?  :D
It's more complicated than that, it is meant to keep archer effectiveness for all builds exactly how it is now. Urist and shik were the ones who made the specific changes.
lel no 1h stab nerf, joke is on you suckers :D
Edit: Hidden nerfs.  :twisted:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Moncho on November 18, 2013, 05:45:33 pm
Nice changes.
Will the respec happen in a few hours, or is it not yet in this patch?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Gravoth_iii on November 18, 2013, 05:46:05 pm
Patch?!
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: bagge on November 18, 2013, 05:55:49 pm
Sweet, no more 1/3 rule. Let the EU battles begin!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 05:59:23 pm
Triple melee hybrids look fun, especially with those 2h alt mode changes. :D

21-21 at 33 o yea long live triple hybrids!!!

O and what about the respec is that coming later today?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: oreshy on November 18, 2013, 06:00:56 pm
"Urist: -dead commanders cant chat"

...sad for dtv , if no admin on ..shownames. but overall thx for the patch.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: LapisLazuliciAmca on November 18, 2013, 06:01:53 pm
When's finish update?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Penitent on November 18, 2013, 06:02:52 pm
NOICE!!!!!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Vermilion on November 18, 2013, 06:04:27 pm
Wow a lot more love for DTV then I would have thought/heard about  :mrgreen:

Still no mute for commander chat ??  :cry:

Thanks to all the devs for the work put into releasing this update/patch  :)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 06:05:50 pm
Weapon points reworkNovember 2013
We have reworked the way you get weapon points (WP) by giving agility and the weapon master skill more impact. Because this is a major change every character got a free full respec.
Before you start assigning the stats make use of a STF character to test that your new builds work as intended. Furthermore keep in mind that all item stats are subject to change, avoid creating a build around a specific weapon.
For more details about this change it is highly recommended to visit the announcements section on our forums.
Agility gives WP
You get now 14 points per agility level instead of per character level.
Weapon Master
At level 6 you will be mostly unaffected and have about the same WP as before.
Melee bonus
Raising a melee proficiency (one/two handed, polearm) gives a bonus to the others.
Lower PT requirement
Required throwing proficiency per PT level was reduced from 13 to 11.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Penitent on November 18, 2013, 06:06:17 pm
Also I'm not seeing anything about 2h/pole-mode changes.  Am I missing something?

Still excited about patch tho. :)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 18, 2013, 06:06:48 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 06:07:57 pm
Triple melee hybrids look fun, especially with those 2h alt mode changes. :D
2h1hpolestab op
fuknerf
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 06:11:00 pm
you aded armours that I was praying for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: 722_ on November 18, 2013, 06:17:20 pm
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Tydeus: Reduced bow and crossbow accuracy for all waves above weabobs

Thank you so much
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Heibai on November 18, 2013, 06:17:52 pm
New armors and weapons? hui hui hui  :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Combaticus on November 18, 2013, 06:18:10 pm
Mods Dead

Longswords more OP
Polearms still slow as molasses

GG C-RPG

 
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Carthan on November 18, 2013, 06:18:13 pm
I really can't tell if I have just been ruined or not...

I do feel sorry for everyone that just retired for new builds though.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 06:19:13 pm
Can some one list the new armours?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: _Tamra_ on November 18, 2013, 06:19:45 pm
Estoc :o

A thrust based two-handed weapon, ♥♥ love :* ♥♥
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 06:19:50 pm
Great, they buffed agility and made longsword better.

outB4ninjasruinthisgame.

EDIT: I wonder who was the genius that gave estoc cutting damage...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Garond_PL on November 18, 2013, 06:20:44 pm
New armours - praise the Lord
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: San on November 18, 2013, 06:25:33 pm
Epic 1h and polearm nerf, great buff to 2h, especially longswords. Fighting pick was op and definitely needed a nerf.

New 2h that makes old espada cry tears of jealousy. God bless crpg.

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: KingBread on November 18, 2013, 06:27:16 pm
i dont get this at all Longsword is actually nerfed cos it have 99 speed before ?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 06:29:01 pm
Epic 1h and polearm nerf, great buff to 2h, especially longswords. Fighting pick was op and definitely needed a nerf.

New 2h that makes old espada cry tears of jealousy. God bless crpg.

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WHAT? God bless crpg?

Even before patch, Servers were full of hiltslashing dicks with longsword/katana/whatever.

chadz, you were supposed to restore the balance, NOT TO DESTROY IT!!!

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: KingBread on November 18, 2013, 06:29:44 pm
WHAT? God bless crpg?

Even before patch, Servers were full of hiltslashing dicks with longsword/katana/whatever.

chadz, you were supposed to restore the balance, NOT TO DESTROY IT!!!


I think that "old" is wrong check shop !
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Gnjus on November 18, 2013, 06:29:51 pm
Inb4 Nightmare798 gets muted for eternity.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: karasu on November 18, 2013, 06:30:38 pm
Love it when people fail to understand why some changes had to happen. :lol:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pigsy on November 18, 2013, 06:35:01 pm
wow..thats a big change!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 06:35:37 pm
Awesome patch!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ganner on November 18, 2013, 06:36:11 pm
WHAT? God bless crpg?

Even before patch, Servers were full of hiltslashing dicks with longsword/katana/whatever.

chadz, you were supposed to restore the balance, NOT TO DESTROY IT!!!

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Heibai on November 18, 2013, 06:36:19 pm
I think that "old" is wrong check shop !

Secondary mode...  :wink:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: brockssn on November 18, 2013, 06:36:43 pm
Thanks guys! Thanks for fixing everything that needed fixed you guys did it!!! lolstabs, swingstabs, wigglestabs, stabs with no animations, overhead swings that are way off to the side but still kill people, 1h stabs, you know everything! Also, good thing you buffed 2h's, they were so bad and sucked big time, especially the longsword. Glad you nerfed things by 1 point that will be game changing! Such an amazing and game revolutionizing patch. A+++++++ give yourself a big pat on the back you deserve it!!!  :wink: I'm surprised you guys don't play 2her with all the buffs, good thing we don't have any corrupt devs in this mod!

Thanks for the respec and new armors!

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Moncho on November 18, 2013, 06:38:15 pm
Cannot find Flambard on the shop, is it the estoc?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Wiltzu on November 18, 2013, 06:39:06 pm
I want to thank devs for free respec, thank you.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 06:39:22 pm
Thanks guys! Thanks for fixing everything that needed fixed you guys did it!!! lolstabs, swingstabs, wigglestabs, stabs with no animations, overhead swings that are way off to the side but still kill people, 1h stabs, you know everything! Also, good thing you buffed 2h's, they were so bad and sucked big time, especially the longsword. Glad you nerfed things by 1 point that will be game changing! Such an amazing and game revolutionizing patch. A+++++++ give yourself a big pat on the back you deserve it!!!  :wink: I'm surprised you guys don't play 2her with all the buffs, good thing we don't have any corrupt devs in this mod!

Thanks for the respec and new armors!

I smell a huge ammount of truthful irony from this post.

You know, before, people joked that 2h swords are all lightsabers. NOW IT IS REALITY!!!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 06:41:39 pm
Triple Hybrid awesome OPness!!!

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Paul on November 18, 2013, 06:44:30 pm
I like how the item changes list in the OP state when it is the primary mode but not when it actually is the secondary mode of a weapon. So now only our brightest customers understand that those 2h changes are for the halfswording mode only while the loudest dwell at the other end of the wit spectrum. Well played, chadz.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ganner on November 18, 2013, 06:44:34 pm
most people complaining about the 2 hand buff haven't really given it a chance yet. With the WPF rework the 2 hand str builds would of been a lot slower without a speed buff, and the damage brings it back in line with where it should be with the loss of wpf speed and damage methinks.

If anything the ones who benefit from this patch will be the ninjas. moar wpf AND moar damage? Agi city here we come.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on November 18, 2013, 06:44:56 pm
can we look new stuff womewhere before buying it ?  :mrgreen:


Thanks for patch !
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Penitent on November 18, 2013, 06:45:59 pm
PLEASE ELABORATE ON HIDDEN 1h and 2h CHANGES

Also pls add market pics for new items ASAP.  I don't have the gold to but them just to look at them. :)

THanks devs!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Muunilinst on November 18, 2013, 06:46:39 pm
amen, thank yu so much


Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: San on November 18, 2013, 06:46:55 pm
I just made a joke about kneejerk reactions compared to calmly sitting back and really comprehending the changes. We'll see how things turn out. I want to know some of the formulaic changes.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 06:47:07 pm
most people complaining about the 2 hand buff haven't really given it a chance yet. With the WPF rework the 2 hand str builds would of been a lot slower without a speed buff, and the damage brings it back in line with where it should be with the loss of wpf speed and damage methinks.

If anything the ones who benefit from this patch will be the ninjas. moar wpf AND moar damage? Agi city here we come.

Exactly.

Do you people remember how annoying were those guys dressed in black and wielding HBS/LS pre-patch?

Now read the patch log.

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Zhyang on November 18, 2013, 06:47:25 pm
is the xp bonus shown ingame or just on website in green letters?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 06:48:19 pm
SO 2H POLE HYBRIDE HAVE REASON NOW
God best pach ever
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Moncho on November 18, 2013, 06:50:47 pm
Dark hauberk is invisible ingame:
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sagar on November 18, 2013, 06:50:57 pm
Great patch, and really god job devs!

Now ... where is Flambard ?  8-)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Combaticus on November 18, 2013, 06:53:06 pm
GG Slowplate STR crutchers, GG!

May you be spammed into hell and obscurity.

I need to sell my gothic for something lighter now
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Tydeus on November 18, 2013, 06:53:59 pm
Dark hauberk is invisible ingame:
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Yeah, I broke items, trying to fix that now.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on November 18, 2013, 06:54:12 pm
I fucked my build ?

OLD PEPE :
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NEW PEPE :
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Combaticus on November 18, 2013, 06:54:14 pm
Dark hauberk is invisible ingame:
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Or is it? Maybe its for the ninjas to stealthily OP Backstab you in game?

Who really knows?!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Jarlek on November 18, 2013, 06:55:59 pm
So reducing the stab damage on some of the stabby 1hs is good and reasonable (although why the speed nerf too?).

But then adding a 2h with 32p at MW and 100 speed. Wat.

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 06:56:40 pm
might want to specify that those are 2h alt mode changes, otherwise some people might be confused.

sorry if this has already been addressed.

-------

any time limit on free respec?  Or does it exist until we use it?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: brockssn on November 18, 2013, 06:59:47 pm
So reducing the stab damage on some of the stabby 1hs is good and reasonable (although why the speed nerf too?).

But then adding a 2h with 32p at MW and 100 speed. Wat.

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BLASPHEMY! Tydeus does not play 2h!!! Thats not why the buffs were only for 2h! BAN HE
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: San on November 18, 2013, 07:00:20 pm
No clue how people could be confused over 2h alt changes.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 18, 2013, 07:01:50 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: brockssn on November 18, 2013, 07:02:39 pm
No clue how people could be confused over 2h alt changes.

2h alt buffs
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on November 18, 2013, 07:02:58 pm
Now everybody grab a Long or Rus Bow and test the 1 accuracy point, coz melee players dont care^^
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: woody on November 18, 2013, 07:06:00 pm
The rage over the non existent 2H buff, obviously deeply thought through.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: San on November 18, 2013, 07:06:32 pm
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About time someone posted this gif.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 07:07:09 pm
So reducing the stab damage on some of the stabby 1hs is good and reasonable (although why the speed nerf too?).

But then adding a 2h with 32p at MW and 100 speed. Wat.

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Reducing stab on stabby 1H fine?

You know, if I didnt pay fking 700g upkeep for my loomed Lespada, If it did cost like 7k, then Id say fuck it, fine.

BUT I HAVE 2 TIMES LOOMED USELESS 1h SWORD WITH 700G UPKEEP THAT I CAN NOW SHOVE UP MY ASS, BECAUSE
THIS RETARDED PATCH HAS MADE IT COMPLETELY SHIT AND USELESS.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:08:55 pm
Estoc - 30 pierce unloomed....

 :shock:

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 07:11:58 pm
nvm
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Vermilion on November 18, 2013, 07:12:03 pm
Triple Hybrid awesome OPness!!!

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Brief - "Please write your class in your application"

Application - "Melee"
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Suchechka on November 18, 2013, 07:13:13 pm
Dark Hauberg and blue kaftan unanimated.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:13:41 pm
How long after do images of the new items usually get in?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Macropus on November 18, 2013, 07:21:34 pm
I'm happy about this patch, and I'm sad about how stupid some people are...  :?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ganner on November 18, 2013, 07:21:55 pm
They could of nerfed everything that I had before, but at least i got a free respec at 34 so BEST PATCH EVAH.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Erasmas on November 18, 2013, 07:22:33 pm
Harald: Skip 1/3 rule if attacker has at least 1800 troops.

Kudos!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 07:28:57 pm
Its funny cause all those people saying GG to STR builds your wrong.......

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Zox_Fury on November 18, 2013, 07:29:06 pm
my 39 3 become useless i suppose :-p niiiice i will run faster and hit like a prick :-D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Heibai on November 18, 2013, 07:30:45 pm
Triple Hybrid awesome OPness!!!

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Playing hoplite with 1h wpf gonna be fun, like a real spartan.  :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 07:31:58 pm
Playing hoplite with 1h wpf gonna be fun, like a real spartan.  :D

Nice!!! Whats really fun is if you can make it to 35 or 36 with this build you can get 6 shield or 6 riding O_O
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:34:32 pm
Its funny cause all those people saying GG to STR builds your wrong.......

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:arrow:  If 9 agility is the new 3 agility then I'd say this patch is a success.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: sjarken on November 18, 2013, 07:34:59 pm
Nice. Thanks for the patch  :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 07:35:54 pm

:arrow: If 9 agility is the new 0-3 agility then I'd say this patch is a success.

Id say so because with 9 agility/3 WM you = out to 100 in your main skill which is just enough =D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rico on November 18, 2013, 07:36:41 pm
Hello!

There is some stuff I do not understand.

Did you change only the amount of wpf you get with a certain level and build, or is the utility of 1 wpf different from before (code-wise, not inflation wise)?

Is the wpf gain on levelups removed?

Thanks for your answers!

Edit: One part is answered, thanks!
Quote
Effect of wpf is exactly the same, asked Tydeus the other day.

The change is how much you get for what in your build, among other things.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:38:42 pm
Hello!

There is some stuff I do not understand.

Did you change only the amount of wpf you get with a certain level and build, or is the utility of 1 wpf different from before (code-wise, not inflation wise)?

Is the wpf gain on levelups removed?

Thanks for your answers!

Effect of wpf is same, you just get different amounts now for different things.  You get no wpf for leveling, only agility.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:39:08 pm
Id say so because with 9 agility/3 WM you = out to 100 in your main skill which is just enough =D

Well, technically for 100% dmg from your weapon you need more than 100 wpf unless you are naked.

Speaking of - anyone know the new effective wpf calculation?  Tydeus? :)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Patoson on November 18, 2013, 07:39:58 pm
I love the new overhead for 2h secondary mode and, with the other changes, sec mode will finally be more useful.

But the wpf bonuses from the other melee weapon types aren't displayed in-game while holding C (it just displays 2h and pole wpf without the bonuses), so I don't know if they are applied in-game.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 07:40:03 pm
Hello!

There is some stuff I do not understand.

Did you change only the amount of wpf you get with a certain level and build, or is the utility of 1 wpf different from before (code-wise, not inflation wise)?

Is the wpf gain on levelups removed?

Thanks for your answers!

Edit: One part is answered, thanks!
Agi gives wpf.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Goat_Fighter on November 18, 2013, 07:40:31 pm
How do we fix the invisible armor?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Gmnotutoo on November 18, 2013, 07:40:34 pm
Can we barrell roll in strat battles now?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 18, 2013, 07:41:18 pm
Triple melee hybrids look fun, especially with those 2h alt mode changes. :D

Examples please.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Killer on November 18, 2013, 07:41:30 pm
When does the free respec end because i won't get on the mod itself until this saturday so i cannot try any builds on my stf until then
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on November 18, 2013, 07:42:10 pm
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Danish Greatsword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Highland Claymore                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

A lot of balacing is completely bullshit. And by bullshit i don't mean that the change is bad , but that its totaly wrong. Old value are wrong , and new value too. Danish and higland claymore never had 31 cut , and never had those speed rating.
So what is it with these false balance change log and can we get the right one.
Seconde thing does anyone know the wpf formula for thrower. It's great to have changed it , but we can do nothing , if we don't know it
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 18, 2013, 07:44:05 pm
As you have just given free respec why don't you also change str req on crossbows? Good moment so later you don't have to give another free respec or at least it won't hold you with introducing new changes. Arbalest 18str ftw.

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Danish Greatsword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Highland Claymore                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
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A lot of balacing is completely bullshit. And by bullshit i don't mean that the change is bad , but that its totaly wrong. Old value are wrong , and new value too. Danish and higland claymore never had 31 cut , and never had those speed rating.
So what is it with these false balance change log and can we get the right one.
Seconde thing does anyone know the wpf formula for thrower. It's great to have changed it , but we can do nothing , if we don't know it

Those are halfswording stats
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sir_Hans on November 18, 2013, 07:46:48 pm
Halfswording meaning secondary modes?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Killer on November 18, 2013, 07:46:57 pm
When does the free respec end because i won't get on the mod itself until this saturday so i cannot try any builds on my stf until then
Nevermind i thought u had to press the respec thing on the website not just set the stats
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 07:47:57 pm
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Danish Greatsword                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
| [0] Highland Claymore                              | old                            | new                           |
|----------------------------------------------------|--------------------------------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                       | 88                             | 90                            |
| swing damage                                       | 31 cut                         | 37 cut                        |
|____________________________________________________|________________________________|_______________________________|
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

A lot of balacing is completely bullshit. And by bullshit i don't mean that the change is bad , but that its totaly wrong. Old value are wrong , and new value too. Danish and higland claymore never had 31 cut , and never had those speed rating.
So what is it with these false balance change log and can we get the right one.

Those are alt modes...so polearm mode.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: karasu on November 18, 2013, 07:50:21 pm
Reducing stab on stabby 1H fine?

You know, if I didnt pay fking 700g upkeep for my loomed Lespada, If it did cost like 7k, then Id say fuck it, fine.

BUT I HAVE 2 TIMES LOOMED USELESS 1h SWORD WITH 700G UPKEEP THAT I CAN NOW SHOVE UP MY ASS, BECAUSE
THIS RETARDED PATCH HAS MADE IT COMPLETELY SHIT AND USELESS.

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 07:50:49 pm
Those are alt modes...so polearm mode.
Then why isn't the stab damage listed?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 07:53:54 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 18, 2013, 07:55:16 pm
Then why isn't the stab damage listed?

It's a change log.


Where is the renown ladder?  I want to rub my 60 million on peoples faces.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on November 18, 2013, 07:58:03 pm
and can we get the wpf requirement for Power throw? No need to say it changed if you don't tell us how?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Gurnisson on November 18, 2013, 07:59:30 pm
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He has a point. LEE is quite bad compared to Spathion now.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Malaclypse on November 18, 2013, 07:59:42 pm
Examples please.

Level 34

18/21

7 WM

123 1h/2h/pole because of bonus prof from other melee places. Pretty slick. Not sure if I should stick with 18/21 three way hybrid with cav, or bail on cav and go back to 18/24 three way split with more ath.

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 08:01:14 pm
and can we get the wpf requirement for Power throw? No need to say it changed if you don't tell us how?
It went from 13 to 11. I don't think the wpf formula has changed further.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 18, 2013, 08:01:31 pm
When I get home, I expect to see everyone playing agi builds with rustics.  If I find anything less, I will be disappointed.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Cosmos_Shielder on November 18, 2013, 08:02:56 pm
It went from 13 to 11. I don't think the wpf formula has changed further.
How do you know?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Aethelwolf on November 18, 2013, 08:05:56 pm
FIX those armors pretty please :)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Moncho on November 18, 2013, 08:08:34 pm
How do you know?
Edit 3: WPF per PT requirement reduced from 13 to 11. Putting wpf into any melee type will grant bonus wpf to the other melee proficiencies.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Boerenlater on November 18, 2013, 08:12:17 pm
How do you know?
I notice it ingame how it feels.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: WITCHCRAFT on November 18, 2013, 08:23:37 pm
Then why isn't the stab damage listed?

Because it was not changed by the patch?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Falka on November 18, 2013, 08:27:26 pm
BUT I HAVE 2 TIMES LOOMED USELESS 1h SWORD WITH 700G UPKEEP THAT I CAN NOW SHOVE UP MY ASS, BECAUSE
THIS RETARDED PATCH HAS MADE IT COMPLETELY SHIT AND USELESS.

Will buy it for 1 lp, send me PM please.

 :wink:

He has a point. LEE is quite bad compared to Spathion now.

Yup, 4 cut for 1 pierce and 3 speed doesn't look like a fair tradeoff...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 08:28:22 pm
Will buy it for 1 lp, send me PM please.

 :wink:

No screw you, I will rather throw it away.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 08:36:33 pm
so 2h secondary mode use polearm wpf?
if yes I am glad because of that global WPF I can create good hybride, really cool hybride

best pach ever

anyway when we will able to see new armours ingame?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Macropus on November 18, 2013, 08:39:09 pm
No screw you, I will rather throw it away.
"Just-shut-up-and-wait-until-this-patch-gets-tweaked-for-balance-and-LEE-gets-buffed-a-little-bit" option is not even considered I guess?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nightmare798 on November 18, 2013, 08:41:13 pm
Will buy it for 1 lp, send me PM please.

 :wink:

Yup, 4 cut for 1 pierce and 3 speed doesn't look like a fair tradeoff...

What are you talking about?

EDIT: my bad, you are talking about comparsion between two weapons, not how much it was nerfed.

If they at least buffed 2c when they nerfed 2p, then it would be bearable.

Quote
"Just-shut-up-and-wait-until-this-patch-gets-tweaked-for-balance-and-LEE-gets-buffed-a-little-bit" option is not even considered I guess?

I will grow Dumbledore s beard before they release another patch to fix this mess.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Soulreaver on November 18, 2013, 08:41:37 pm
does wpf still affects upkeep chance?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 18, 2013, 08:53:08 pm
Damnit now I want my +3 heavy lance back I traded when it was down to 23p (non-loomed) 26p MW.  Now it's up to 25p/28p (1 less than it was before)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: HUtH on November 18, 2013, 09:01:19 pm
nice patch, though still waiting when all new items and their icons on c-rpg.net will appear.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 09:14:47 pm
Damnit now I want my +3 heavy lance back I traded when it was down to 23p (non-loomed) 26p MW.  Now it's up to 25p/28p (1 less than it was before)

I think this balance will be good for it!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Radament on November 18, 2013, 09:17:55 pm
where is that flambard thing? can't manage to find it on the shop :(
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 18, 2013, 09:24:53 pm
where is that flambard thing? can't manage to find it on the shop :(

Whats the Flambard?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: HUtH on November 18, 2013, 09:38:08 pm
it's in the log.
and it's also another name for flame-blade sword(eg. flamberg)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: miggy on November 18, 2013, 09:43:04 pm
Dear cRPG Developers,

Please buff smoke bombs. Also thank you so much for allowing me to roll in strat battles now.

Love,
Miggy

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 18, 2013, 09:43:57 pm
I think everyone wants to know answer for hat question, when we will be able to see new items ingame?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: french2killer on November 18, 2013, 09:45:47 pm
Full STR build are nerf right now ???
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: njames89 on November 18, 2013, 09:54:08 pm
I think a collective 25 minutes was spent on our ts making orgasm noises looking at the new heraldic armor we get to wear. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Phew on November 18, 2013, 09:55:23 pm
I think a collective 25 minutes was spent on our ts making orgasm noises looking at the new heraldic armor we get to wear. YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Screenshots?

EDIT-Of the armor. Not the orgasms. Please god not the orgasms.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Chris_the_Animal on November 18, 2013, 09:55:44 pm
Harald: Added renown ladder.
What is this for?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 18, 2013, 10:02:01 pm
Level 34

18/21

7 WM

123 1h/2h/pole because of bonus prof from other melee places. Pretty slick. Not sure if I should stick with 18/21 three way hybrid with cav, or bail on cav and go back to 18/24 three way split with more ath.

Thank you.  But why did 2h weps in general get a buff then?  Is that how op they were in the old point system?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Malaclypse on November 18, 2013, 10:03:35 pm
Thank you.  But why did 2h weps in general get a buff then?  Is that how op they were in the old point system?

Most 2h stat changes are for the alt mode (which uses pole wpf) if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: njames89 on November 18, 2013, 10:07:40 pm
Screenshots?

EDIT-Of the armor. Not the orgasms. Please god not the orgasms.

Had a good laugh at that. The armors are invisible in game right now and on the website. No screens yet....of the armor....
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Blackbow on November 18, 2013, 10:43:47 pm
there is like 80% of agiwhore and 20% of str build but lets buff agi...

and about buff accuracy of long and rus doesnt fix the real problem
long and rus who are suposed to be 2 long range bows have less range than horn,tatar, nomad ...

now we will have more range and ppl will cry more ... when is the next range nerf ?

this is what i think of this patch who just unbalance crpg imo

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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kinngrimm on November 18, 2013, 10:51:12 pm
Thank you for the patch, great work!

Now,
will there ever be a balancing in Strategus which adresses big factions/clans, to decrease their economical power in relation to smaller factions/clans.
They still have more players to do more shit anyhow.
Or through another way, those holding more and more fiefs would gain unrest and uprisings they need also to fight down additionally to their empire building.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Corsair831 on November 18, 2013, 11:00:32 pm
Thank you for the patch, great work!

Now,
will there ever be a balancing in Strategus which adresses big factions/clans, to decrease their economical power in relation to smaller factions/clans.
They still have more players to do more shit anyhow.
Or through another way, those holding more and more fiefs would gain unrest and uprisings they need also to fight down additionally to their empire building.

would be pretty dumb if a tiny faction could take on a large faction -_-

might be cool if it was based on how much territory you controlled instead of how many players though
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Miley on November 18, 2013, 11:04:59 pm
Thank you now I don't have 1 PD!!!!!!11111111 goodbye random shortbow with no wpf ;)))))))))))))))))
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elindor on November 18, 2013, 11:12:43 pm
Thank you for the patch, great work!

Now,
will there ever be a balancing in Strategus which adresses big factions/clans, to decrease their economical power in relation to smaller factions/clans.
They still have more players to do more shit anyhow.
Or through another way, those holding more and more fiefs would gain unrest and uprisings they need also to fight down additionally to their empire building.

I like the idea of unrest, infrastructure, etc as a means to balance runaway train empire building - you gotta expand smart.  Maybe holdings farthest from your capitol suffer more unrest %?

 Maybe that is a skill that the leader of the faction can invest in, from a set of skills.  One skill would be empire building, one would be trading, one could be something effecting troop recruitment etc.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Lethwin Far Seeker on November 18, 2013, 11:25:23 pm
2h buff? What?  Just give the longswords lightsaber textures and be done with it.  Aside from that I am really happy with this patch!
Can't wait to try the Estoc!

Edit: Down voters, come on, when my eyes can't pick up\track the movement on a high damage high lolstab weapon, something is wrong.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ubereem on November 18, 2013, 11:26:12 pm
no roll for NA siege?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kinngrimm on November 18, 2013, 11:36:08 pm
would be pretty dumb if a tiny faction could take on a large faction -_-
...
no it wouldnt. From the way the game was cosntructed from start it always amassed to the thinking , bigger is better ^^. I dont like that. I dont want to become a fucking huge faction so i can keep up with the economy race and even if 100 players wouldnt be afk but actually all playing crpg and strategus, it is a nightmare for all other clans then to keep up.

Find a sweetspot of perhaps 40 to 70 people max as limit towards the balancing is directed. Everything above will be lowered in effectivness and efficency.

Same when i see a few clans ruling the servers, other players either join those or get discurraged and stop playing as it is sometimes quite unsettling with this crappy banner ballance without an actual balance or do you want to tell me that you never saw the hate on the servers when one clan is winning round after round after round. That i call bullshit. Instead of having a system which works for smaller clans best , so people can befriend each other and get a team going to their liking and then eventually also evolving into a medium or bigger sized clan, i see Byz/Merc on eu1 and GO/HRE on eu2. Also dont get me wrong i dont dislike big clans perse, Wolves in strat 3.0 have had 120 members , that mostly for the reasons to keep up with the economy in Strategus. Later i knew i made a mistake to become that big as lots of the personal touch was lost from the beginnings.
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Again i didnt say they would be equal , the smaller and the larger factions/clans.
Larger clans/factiosn still have the potential to have more active people(how unlikely that sometimes but seems to be)

When you want balancing for higher level players i also would argue for narrowing down curves to the end of progressions, so the high level player with sometimes extrem builds wouldnt get ahead too much. The same pretty much counts for economy in Strategus.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Penitent on November 18, 2013, 11:42:47 pm
I like your ideas, but the truth is if you balanced it around smaller clans, clans would just band together into "coalitions" and we'd have the same situation.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Blackbow on November 18, 2013, 11:46:53 pm
this patch mean the come back of kiting range ...
why range should not get extra point in melee too ?

i rly recomand to give the extra point in melee to range if you dont wana see the kiting range style come back

in olds times of crpg ppl had like 200/250 wpf then got nerf and now you come back to this

same as archery it was op you nerfed them then you buffed them again

crpg is nerf nerf nerf then came back to the base to nerf again ...
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kinngrimm on November 19, 2013, 12:05:50 am
I like your ideas, but the truth is if you balanced it around smaller clans, clans would just band together into "coalitions" and we'd have the same situation.
it all depends how far you would go to balance it. Others and myself made quite a few sugestions already in that area. It is possible with carrot&stick method to balance this issue. At least to make it a lot better then it is now. Also you could see it like the war between virus programmers and anti-virus software programmers. A neverending battle, but only because we know some morons keep on programming viruses we dont stop trying to protect us against them or do we now.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Elio on November 19, 2013, 12:06:08 am
crpg is nerf nerf nerf then came back to the base to nerf again ...
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+1

For gold stack they invented gold sink: auctions and rent (banner, title..)
for level stack they invented weathercock skills.

Brace yourself, wind is incoming..
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: HappyPhantom on November 19, 2013, 12:08:30 am
this patch mean the come back of kiting range ...
why range should not get extra point in melee too ?

i rly recomand to give the extra point in melee to range if you dont wana see the kiting range style come back

in olds times of crpg ppl had like 200/250 wpf then got nerf and now you come back to this

same as archery it was op you nerfed them then you buffed them again

crpg is nerf nerf nerf then came back to the base to nerf again ...
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No, because arrows still way like 20kg for two quivers. Kiting still impossible.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Combaticus on November 19, 2013, 12:18:11 am
I'm just sad that I will get out-spammed even more so as a STR guy...

I would love to see a polearm buff though, all polearms really have going for them are range stabs.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: XyNox on November 19, 2013, 12:29:38 am
No, because arrows still way like 20kg for two quivers. Kiting still impossible.

First thing I tried after the patch was 6/36 archer with nomad bow and you can infact kite with it, though the damage is pitiful. Devs still havent figured out that the quiver weight nerf is still mostly putting the people in a disadvantage who dont have enough points to get enough ath i.e. hybrids, which however are willing and meant to fight in melee and could desperately use the footwork.
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I had little hopes left that maybe with this patch this gets adressed.

IMO the rational decision would be to prevent kiting by nerfing mobility when performing ranged related stuff instead of a global slow down. It is like dropping a JDAM on a crowded housing complex because you know that somewhere in there a terrorist is hiding. Just plain poor game design.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Blackbow on November 19, 2013, 12:34:43 am
No, because arrows still way like 20kg for two quivers. Kiting still impossible.

i still can kite dude =)
and if i go for pure archer build instead of my old hybrid build
i will be able to kite more with my 9ath


i guess i should go for an op retarded op hoplite build like this one
15/27 :
One Handed:171
Polearm:143


crpg was already like 80 % agibuild and 20 % str
i cant believe devs play that mod to think agi had to be buffed

just look at the tons of agi shielder we had before patch ...
imo put shield requierment to str and not agi to stop this tons of gay shield builds... but that's an other subject...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rico on November 19, 2013, 12:41:13 am
Hey nightmare,
This post is a song, and it is about you.

Until now I thought
I am the biggest crybaby in the world.
But know I know
You are.

And that means quite something.
Oh yeah~~~

It first I QQ'ed
Because Espada was nerfed
So was Short Arming Sword
And Scottish.

But wpf got buffed so I smirk
Oh yeah~~~

I don't like the way
Your face looks buddy.
Don't take patches personal
They are just a game.

Remember to love the devs
Oh yeah~~~

Always keep in mind
every -1 is -1 love.
We still love you bro,
Take it easy and drink.

In Soviet Russia, Vodka Drinks You.
Oh yeah~~~


Dear community, please do not hate me.
I am drunk cuz I finshed huge research project.

Join PRAVDA,
Rico.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Blackbow on November 19, 2013, 12:53:49 am
the money got for the melee gaming project should be used
to pay at the devs an entry to a game design school !!!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Mateoo on November 19, 2013, 01:10:21 am
I'm just sad that I will get out-spammed even more so as a STR guy...

I would love to see a polearm buff though, all polearms really have going for them are range stabs.
Are you serious? Polearms have got just everything you need. Damage, range and speed. I am going to be a polearm fighter after I get bored with my shielder.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Life on November 19, 2013, 01:23:38 am
what is this synergy bonus? if i am 1h, is it good to have my 1h wpf "green"? if so i will have to put about 70 into 2h, which doesnt make sense
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Osiris on November 19, 2013, 01:25:47 am
play with your stf :D


you get wpf in other melee areas when you put some in one.

you can play around with the figures but it makes hybrid pretty good at higher wpm levels
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Visconti on November 19, 2013, 01:28:00 am
kind of feel like all were gonna see are agi longswords and lawl pikes with like 190-200 wpf..... as if they werent bad enough before the patch
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: HappyPhantom on November 19, 2013, 02:42:41 am
First thing I tried after the patch was 6/36 archer with nomad bow and you can infact kite with it, though the damage is pitiful. Devs still havent figured out that the quiver weight nerf is still mostly putting the people in a disadvantage who dont have enough points to get enough ath i.e. hybrids, which however are willing and meant to fight in melee and could desperately use the footwork.
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I had little hopes left that maybe with this patch this gets adressed.

IMO the rational decision would be to prevent kiting by nerfing mobility when performing ranged related stuff instead of a global slow down. It is like dropping a JDAM on a crowded housing complex because you know that somewhere in there a terrorist is hiding. Just plain poor game design.

Hmmm, for me debatable. I'd usually consider 5PD minimum for archer (Horn bow), and 6PD standard.
Horse archer, different story.

Although this build looks tempting given I usually use Bow:

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Currently strat army standard is horn bow (PD5) and Rus/Long Bows (PD6) so both yours and my build above wouldn't currently be viable for Strat.

Edit to add: Also more agi builds = less ability to kite, because more people will be able to keep up.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Vermilion on November 19, 2013, 02:45:21 am
Where is the renown ladder?  I want to rub my 60 million on peoples faces.
Where is this renown ladder located?
What is this for?

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=ladderhero

Same location on c-rpg.net as the dueling ladder.
There is also a renown meter on your character info page (under dueling, to the left of strat reliability and performace.)
eg http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=strategusbattlesarchive#!?page=charinfodetail&id=42368
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Zlisch_The_Butcher on November 19, 2013, 03:59:55 am
lol 32 pierce with the 2h anims, I gotta get me an MW estoc...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 05:04:11 am
Level:32

Strength:39
Agility:6

One Handed:1
Two Handed:76   ____________only  76 WTF
Polearm:7
Throwing:1
Crossbow:1
Archery:1

Weapon Master:2
Athletics:0
Riding:0
Iron Flesh:0
Shield:0
Horse Archery:0
Power Strike:13
Power Draw:0
Power Throw:2
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bobthehero on November 19, 2013, 05:45:29 am
You buff 2h sword

Nerf 1h stabbers and then AAAAAAAARGH FUCKING HELL NO

Worst patch since for fucking ever, mod is dead dead is mod fuck this shit



There, I am out, this is fucking ridiculous, fuck everyone and especially you (http://forum.melee.org/index.php?action=profile)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 05:49:05 am
This mod is not just fucked me but you. and all of us :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Penitent on November 19, 2013, 06:02:49 am
2h was not buffed.

Polearm was buffed.  Pole users can use 2h swords now.

ALL STATS FOR THE 2h WEAPONS LISTED ARE THE POLEARM MODE STATS UUUARAGRHAGGRGGHHHHHH
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Krosis on November 19, 2013, 06:06:12 am
fix the crashing godamnit.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 06:06:43 am
for lvl 32
Old build 43/3 14ps 1powert throw 122wpf
now 39/6 13ps 2power throw 2wm 76wpf
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 19, 2013, 06:14:29 am
for lvl 32
Old build 43/3 14ps 1powert throw 122wpf
now 39/6 13ps 2power throw 2wm 76wpf

No more free wpf per level herp derp gotta get some agi or play with 76 wpf.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 06:27:11 am
I played with 122 wpf before yesterday and played with the new statistics, and just do not see the difference, because the APF does not play a big role plays the role of the force of impact is right now, I have 13 :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 19, 2013, 06:37:59 am
2h was not buffed.

Polearm was buffed.  Pole users can use 2h swords now.

ALL STATS FOR THE 2h WEAPONS LISTED ARE THE POLEARM MODE STATS UUUARAGRHAGGRGGHHHHHH

Doesn't that mean that the 2h weps can do more than they could before?  They still have hilt/slash, and lolstab and now they have a pole arm mode.  Sounds like buffing to me.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 06:47:15 am
2h has some more damage with the new patch                                  +3lp
Persian Battle Axe
weapon length: 95
weight: 4.7
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 90___________________________________________91
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 48 cut___________________________________51
slots: 2
Unbalanced

Bonus against Shield
now this weapon best
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: nayman on November 19, 2013, 08:08:42 am
are danish GS  and heavy lance back with this patch?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 19, 2013, 08:13:25 am
Could any Developers enlighten us on the crashing for Dx7? Will it be fixed? Or is this a way to get everyone to merge to WSE2 even though it obviously doesn't work for everyone? I still have the FPS stuttering from when it first was released, making it unplayable, unless i'm keeping the grapes warm in the winter with my torch...but then I get banned for that.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 08:24:53 am
I do not fucking understand online the wrong values ​​or something for all types of weapons?
Longsword                                      | old                            | new                           |
|------------------------------------------ -|-------------------- ------|-------------------------------|
| speed rating                                  | 95                             | 97                            |
| swing damage                               | 25 cut                        | 31 cut     

to site
Longsword
speed rating: 99
swing damage: 37 cut

WTF?

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Eddy on November 19, 2013, 08:48:45 am
People still dont figured out, that it is the secondary mode?  :lol:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Paul on November 19, 2013, 09:03:30 am
Not everyone is a rocket surgeon here.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Haze_The_Hobo on November 19, 2013, 09:07:38 am
Too many HA now.. Can't even ride my Rouncey anymore without it making a knitlers pillow in the cemetary.

Overall, thanks for the patch and THANKS ALOT for the free respec, now i don't have to retire when i reach 34! :)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 09:23:27 am
new DTV this
http://www.google.ru/imgres?newwindow=1&sa=X&biw=1212&bih=656&tbm=isch&tbnid=uY-dodXThgd2-M:&imgrefurl=http://zerx.ru/41601-konec-sveta.html&docid=LXlQzW5WsF-ivM&imgurl=http://zerx.ru/uploads/posts/2013-03/1363370074_konec-sveta-1.jpg&w=1137&h=758&ei=6R6LUo3ENKap4ASXxYG4Cw&zoom=1&ved=1t:3588,r:2,s:0,i:93&iact=rc&page=1&tbnh=183&tbnw=275&start=0&ndsp=10&tx=131&ty=77
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Macropus on November 19, 2013, 09:35:44 am
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: ArysOakheart on November 19, 2013, 09:46:28 am
Not everyone is a rocket surgeon here.

You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to let us know about the future of Dx7 relative to WSE2
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: karasu on November 19, 2013, 10:25:59 am
You don't have to be a rocket surgeon to let us know about the future of Dx7 relative to WSE2

He was talking about the 2h sec mode changes on the log. The crash issue is being addressed.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Molly on November 19, 2013, 11:27:35 am
I still think giving full respecs was a mistake.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Hirlok on November 19, 2013, 11:53:18 am
coupling WPF to agi is one of the most illogical things ever in c-rpg. And that's saying something.

I know this is not about "reality" - but in this case the analogy works. Proficiency with a weapon comes from experience ("levels") and is earned by training (putting points into "wm").

Adjusting how WP affects your combat efficiency: great, was (and is...) needed.
Encouraging even more agi whores: *facepalm*
Better: keep a few points per level as before and make WM a standalone stat (NOT dependend on agi) and give more WPF via WM.

Besides that: thanks for the symbolic archery buff (we archers are humble dogs and lick your feet for the most tiny of morsels, as long as we do not get beaten with a stick as usual...). The adjustment for high pd however was very "slight" indeed (AKA hard to notice at all...)
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Falka on November 19, 2013, 12:15:20 pm
make WM a standalone stat (NOT dependend on agi) and give more WPF via WM.

Wow! this man is bloody genius! Let's make 33-3 char with both 11 Powers Strike and 11 Weapon master! Brilliant idea my friend  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Afina on November 19, 2013, 12:19:53 pm
39/6 13ps 2wm 2pt this good
plays an important role ps not wpf
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: bagge on November 19, 2013, 12:29:08 pm
heavy lance back with this patch?

Heavy Lance still sucks compared to what it used to be. Expensive as hell as well. :P
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Hirlok on November 19, 2013, 12:33:38 pm
Wow! this man is bloody genius! Let's make 33-3 char with both 11 Powers Strike and 11 Weapon master! Brilliant idea my friend  :rolleyes:

how to balance this is a different story - but how well someone knows how to handle a weapon depends mostly on training, not on one physical stat. Plus I do not see a problem with that build - agi or balanced builds would still be faster.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Killer on November 19, 2013, 01:04:50 pm
Thanks devs for the free respec only 400,000 away from lvl 31 on this gen and was gonna change my build for this character but now i don't have to retire lvl 32 here i come
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kafein on November 19, 2013, 01:29:00 pm
Not everyone is a rocket surgeon here.

How many rocket surgeons are there in the world ?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 19, 2013, 01:41:54 pm
Heavy Lance still sucks compared to what it used to be. Expensive as hell as well. :P
However at high lvl 18/21 you can use it with 170 wpf and it's low speed is being strongly enhanced by wpf.

Heavy lance works best for dedicated pole-cav with quite big amount of wpf and lance works best for high level hybrid cav 18/21 with 150 in 1h and 126 in polearms (values should be accurate). Higher speed of lance compensates the lower wpf which also means that str-lance-cav like 24/15 or even 27/15 is pleasant to play.

Giving heavy glance +1 to stab dmg was a good step forward. Now you can see that that nerf long time ago that took away 3pierce on stab was followed by 2 buffs of heavy lance - each one giving it +1 to stab dmg. This shows that heavy lance didn't need this strong nerf that time.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kalp on November 19, 2013, 01:46:26 pm
2h has some more damage with the new patch                                  +3lp
Persian Battle Axe
weapon length: 95
weight: 4.7
difficulty: 17
speed rating: 90___________________________________________91
weapon length: 95
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 48 cut___________________________________51
slots: 2
Unbalanced

Bonus against Shield
now this weapon best
51c on +3 is still the same as before patch...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kajia on November 19, 2013, 04:12:47 pm
Adjusting how WP affects your combat efficiency: great, was (and is...) needed.
Encouraging even more agi whores: *facepalm*
Better: keep a few points per level as before and make WM a standalone stat (NOT dependend on agi) and give more WPF via WM.
I kind of agree.

but why not delete wpf for melee completely and slightly nerf speed bonus?
many attribute points into AGI: more speed bonus when moving, better acceleration
many attribute points into STR: more base dmg, more hitpoints, more potential armor
balanced attribute points: balanced
if you want to be hybrid melee/ranged, you'll have to get WM.
problem solved.

just a thought.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Torben on November 19, 2013, 04:22:58 pm
I know this is not about "reality" - but in this case the analogy works.

just to best your analogy (anal lol  :mrgreen:)

dude a works out every day lifting weights.  he eats and lifts heavy things and eats again,  and he can kill you by just sitting on you.

dude b works out every day.  but he also trains his combat skills.  he becomes strong,  but never at cost of his technique training.

dude c is jet lee.  he does his crazy fast fighing shit,  has a high str/bodywheight ratio but if it comes to hurt guy a,  he rly needs sth pointy or otherwise dude a wont feel the punch go through his fat.

so,  just aside of this working great for crpg -   its kinda true in reality as well.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 19, 2013, 05:04:27 pm
Heavy Lance still sucks compared to what it used to be. Expensive as hell as well. :P

It's 1 less pierce from what it was before it got mega-nerfed (when some people stopped using it).  I traded my heavy lance away for a lance at that point, just finally traded back for it.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 19, 2013, 05:05:49 pm
People still dont figured out, that it is the secondary mode?  :lol:

That's because there has been, at best, only a cryptic explanation.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 19, 2013, 05:06:40 pm
Not everyone is a rocket surgeon here.

Nor a good communicator.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: San on November 19, 2013, 05:35:26 pm
The improvements over agi are the only things preventing one from easily choosing a balanced build. Even so, haven't seen many builds under 15 strength yet. Mostly seeing slightly agi balanced builds due to the high synergy agi has with good strength.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sagar on November 19, 2013, 05:54:15 pm
The patch is good. Just fix armors, and please add Flambard.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Screaming Idiot on November 19, 2013, 06:30:09 pm
These new armor sound delicious for my medieval vanity simulator.
i like my character looking good okay
Can anyone post pics of them or link me to someone that has them? Most of the times I go play no one seems to wear them yet.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Vermilion on November 19, 2013, 06:33:51 pm
Can anyone post pics of them or link me to someone that has them? Most of the times I go play no one seems to wear them yet.

http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/new-items-go-here/msg897459/#msg897459
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Screaming Idiot on November 19, 2013, 06:39:24 pm
http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/new-items-go-here/msg897459/#msg897459
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kaassaus on November 19, 2013, 07:23:58 pm
can there please be one more free respec...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Theodosius on November 19, 2013, 07:35:41 pm
To Whom It May Concern,

I would note an orthographic error regarding one of the weapons.

"Estoc" is incorrect, the historically accurate term would be "NamoRage Inducer." I hope to see this discrepancy corrected soon.

Much obliged,
Theo

PS this patch seems legit, many thanks!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Torben on November 19, 2013, 07:44:59 pm
can there please be one more free respec...

hahahaHAHAHA  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 19, 2013, 08:16:57 pm
...  and he can kill you by just sitting on you. ...

Just a typical 'merican
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Turkhammer on November 19, 2013, 08:49:48 pm
Is the advantage of 2h 2nd mode higher damage but less reach then?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumbs on November 19, 2013, 09:24:19 pm
Halfswording means lower damage on the swings and higher damage but shorter reach stab. Halfswording before was more of a novelty than a balanced ability, now you get a pole overhead and better swing damage which is nice. If you have 2 hand wpf and pole wpf you can switch at will and it might catch players by surprise
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Jarlek on November 19, 2013, 09:44:20 pm
Halfswording means lower damage on the swings and higher damage but shorter reach stab. Halfswording before was more of a novelty than a balanced ability, now you get a pole overhead and better swing damage which is nice. If you have 2 hand wpf and pole wpf you can switch at will and it might catch players by surprise
The stab damage in halfswording is insane though. Greatsword and GGS got the same stab damage as the awlpikes for example.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlindGuy on November 19, 2013, 10:01:28 pm
Estoc.... I am just patching now, was away working, but wasn't Estoc historically a sword for stabbing from horseback? Maybe not ONLY, but definitly  was used...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on November 19, 2013, 11:28:42 pm
The synergy bonus doesn't appear in game stats, the one when you hold down "c" key. Does synergy bonus actually apply at the moment, as it is intended?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: haxKingdom on November 19, 2013, 11:49:39 pm
Malus: the return of performance-related compensation upon the discovery of deficient performance

Of course. :shock:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Novamere on November 20, 2013, 12:40:38 am
The synergy bonus doesn't appear in game stats, the one when you hold down "c" key. Does synergy bonus actually apply at the moment, as it is intended?

i would like to know the same!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Moncho on November 20, 2013, 12:45:38 am
The synergy bonus doesn't appear in game stats, the one when you hold down "c" key. Does synergy bonus actually apply at the moment, as it is intended?
i would like to know the same!
The in-game shared wpf character menu display feature hasn't been coded yet, so it won't show up. The actual effective wpf change from shared melee proficiencies has been tested and is working as if you had the amount of wpf that you see on the website.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Huscarlton_Banks on November 20, 2013, 01:01:02 am
Any more detailed information on the nudge changes?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: chadz on November 20, 2013, 12:47:44 pm
Hotfix:
http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-3-1-1/
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sagar on November 20, 2013, 12:50:06 pm
Great  :)

Flambard will be added to mod?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlindGuy on November 20, 2013, 12:57:58 pm
 :?

Estoc 2hcav sword, why bad perks?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 20, 2013, 12:59:14 pm
estoc should be 2h cav weapon also what is about gliched armors?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: [ptx] on November 20, 2013, 02:39:04 pm
Quote
15:37:21 <•chadz> oops :P
15:37:33 <•chadz> forgot to relese

Best patch.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Jacko on November 20, 2013, 02:41:05 pm
Ban leak.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Son Of Odin on November 20, 2013, 02:42:00 pm
Best patch.
Fak you ptx I was going to post that! :evil:

Ban leak.
YES! Ban he!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Torben on November 20, 2013, 02:51:26 pm
what up site just got patched again
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Dark_Blade on November 20, 2013, 02:54:39 pm
you better remove this retarded Estoc...
stats of Flambard are realy funny... why its that expensive if it worse than SoW and Claymore o_O
its worse than Miaodao also... and Miaodao is still cheap
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 20, 2013, 03:04:58 pm
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Front and back of new armors have different colors.
 Templar banner back is white and front is covered with dirt so there is big difference between back and front of armour.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 20, 2013, 03:19:07 pm
The stab damage in halfswording is insane though. Greatsword and GGS got the same stab damage as the awlpikes for example.

This is true, but don't forget the 4d stab animation is worse the the 2d.  Also the weapon is much shorter.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2013, 04:41:52 pm
chadz has anyone mentioned the item dupe bug is back in full force in strategus battles?  I've heard about 5 or 6 people getting it (and can tell a few others) have gotten the bug.

Can we has a fix and strat wipe?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 20, 2013, 04:43:06 pm
chadz has anyone mentioned the item dupe bug is back in full force in strategus battles?  I've heard about 5 or 6 people getting it (and can tell a few others) have gotten the bug.

Can we has a fix and strat wipe?
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2013, 04:57:52 pm
Well it's pretty obvious.

Look here:  http://c-rpg.net/?page=ladderhero 

Look at the people who have moved up lots of spots in the ranking, and then notice they commanded (as attacker or defender) in battles yesterday:  http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive

Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kinngrimm on November 20, 2013, 05:06:15 pm
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obvious what? what? how do you determine an item dupe is happening from the data you have shown? ... what? dont spread false rummors when you can't prove something and even if that would be provable, you don't start 'here sharing' this but contact privatly the devs/admins so they can take care of shit ...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 20, 2013, 06:06:44 pm
obvious what? what? how do you determine an item dupe is happening from the data you have shown? ... what? dont spread false rummors when you can't prove something and even if that would be provable, you don't start 'here sharing' this but contact privatly the devs/admins so they can take care of shit ...

It's anecdotal for sure, but I am beginning to connect the dots.  Ridiculous renown is one of the easiest ways to determine who got the dupe bug.  I've personally got it twice, and I have the renown to prove it.  At this point I have no motives in Strat than to kill my own troops solely for exp in new and funny ways.  Because of this, I am much more open about it.  That said, I would like to see these bugs fixed and strat reset.  Anyway, king grim, you seem awfully defensive about this subject.  Next you will say all of Germany was on vacation between 1940 and 1946.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: CrazyCracka420 on November 20, 2013, 06:11:33 pm
obvious what? what? how do you determine an item dupe is happening from the data you have shown? ... what? dont spread false rummors when you can't prove something and even if that would be provable, you don't start 'here sharing' this but contact privatly the devs/admins so they can take care of shit ...

It's happened many times before yesterday to be sure (maybe when you were gone? pretty sure it was happening at the beginning of strat 4 as well).  People put up forum posts, devs commented about it (I'm sure they tried to fix it) but it still happened.  The duped gear was not deleted, and people ended up with millions and millions of silver due to the dupe.  I've known about at least 6-10 other instances (that were publicly announced) before yesterday with the item dupe bug.  It was happening a lot yesterday (according to people in IRC and people posting on forums) so it makes sense that others happened as well who were commanders in battles.  Like mudertron said, it's completely anecdotal, but it makes sense.

One item dupe bug should have been enough to warrant a fix, deletion of duped gear, or a wipe of strat.  Introducing "free" 100's of millions of silver into strat is game breaking.  Massively. 
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bittersteel on November 20, 2013, 07:25:41 pm
Ban rus clan, free birgitte
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 20, 2013, 07:36:21 pm
Flambard is invisiburu (shows as that white arrow) <- treat it like it's a bug report.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Nehvar on November 20, 2013, 10:27:20 pm
(The bit in my previous post about the white arrow with the estoc's secondary mode was fixed/changed with the newest update.)

There seems to be a new issue though.  After the 0.3.1.1 update the estoc's secondary mode switched to polearm according to the in-game item display...but the animations are still 2h.  Was that intentional?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Angantyr on November 20, 2013, 11:12:56 pm
Everything feels a bit faster and I can use the normal poleaxe instead of german or elegant without it feeling too sluggish. Great patch overall. Perhaps extreme agi whoring should have some kind of limit, though, some of the builds are near superhuman right now.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: kinngrimm on November 21, 2013, 01:44:20 am
... Anyway, kinggrim, you seem awfully defensive about this subject.  Next you will say all of Germany was on vacation between 1940 and 1946.
You want to tell me something? If you cant talk strait stfu, i have nothing to hide, never had in these matters. So before you imply anything better not sit in a glashouse.

'Again' for clarification, if there are bugs/dupes, tell admins and devs, do not tell that shit here, that would only lead to more fuck ups using them.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: SP1N on November 21, 2013, 02:58:06 am
Well it's pretty obvious.

Look here:  http://c-rpg.net/?page=ladderhero 

Look at the people who have moved up lots of spots in the ranking, and then notice they commanded (as attacker or defender) in battles yesterday:  http://c-rpg.net/?page=strategusbattlesarchive

#17 NA :D
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: MURDERTRON on November 21, 2013, 07:41:29 am
You want to tell me something? If you cant talk strait stfu, i have nothing to hide, never had in these matters. So before you imply anything better not sit in a glashouse.

'Again' for clarification, if there are bugs/dupes, tell admins and devs, do not tell that shit here, that would only lead to more fuck ups using them.

We'll since the admins and devs have done absolutely nothing about this, all that we can do is shame the recipients of duped items who won't admit they got them.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sagar on November 21, 2013, 11:43:48 am
Any fix for Flambard, soon?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 21, 2013, 11:59:13 am
Any fix for Flambard, soon?
I guess eet will be fixed today 5-7pm. I bet 10 gold.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 22, 2013, 03:26:53 pm
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Front and back of new armors have different colors.
 Templar banner back is white and front is covered with dirt so there is big difference between back and front of armour.
new armors still have fucked textures
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on November 23, 2013, 04:11:09 pm
The original brigandine and the heraldic look same almost exactly, but their stats are different. The heraldic one also seems to be more suited for cavalry, while the former is an infantry armor. Can you adjust the stats of the heraldic one to the original brigandine please?

Brigandine
weight: 16.4
body armor: 47
leg armor: 12
difficulty: 12
10,836 gold


Heraldic Brigandine
weight: 20.2
body armor: 50
leg armor: 20
difficulty: 13
17,255 gold


And I do not know how heraldic tunic and heraldic tabard looks in game, but shouldn't these armor more suited to be light armor? If they have the looks of a heavy armor, can you please change their name? The current names do not state that they include any armor parts at all (mail, chain, plate etc.). It is the same logic of calling a heavy armor, "t-shirt" if you ask my opinion.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on November 23, 2013, 04:48:19 pm
all new armors there : http://forum.melee.org/general-discussion/pepe-shows-new-stuff-for-you/msg898975/#msg898975


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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on November 23, 2013, 05:21:31 pm
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on November 23, 2013, 06:36:39 pm
Oh! Thanks a lot pepe! Then their names should be different, because they are misleading. For example, "heraldic tabard over mail" over "heraldic tabard".

About the heraldic brigandine, well yeah that one looks more protective for legs.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on November 23, 2013, 08:08:03 pm
I agree...  names are quite illogical for me....

Why "Surcoat over mail" and "mail with surcoat" is so différent ?  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: HUtH on November 23, 2013, 09:17:58 pm
short one has shorter chainmail though not surcot(it's the same). The short one should be named Heraldic surcoat over mail with pauldrons. Because the longer name the better.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on November 24, 2013, 05:29:51 pm
anyone care about diffrent colors on back and front of new armours?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on November 24, 2013, 06:51:02 pm
anyone care about diffrent colors on back and front of new armours?

I personally dont because I use heraldic trans. But I guess it can be a bit annoying...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Franke on November 25, 2013, 09:30:09 am
Talking of "Heraldic Tunic" etc....

The addition of more heraldic armors is much appreciated; I really love the brigandine, forces me to retire another time or even twice to loom it although I planned to go endbuild.

But how about some lighter heraldic armor (for archers etc.), like some heraldic leather armor or a real heraldic tunic (without mail)?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: ARN_ on November 25, 2013, 09:52:05 am
How about bringing back eu4!?!
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumpy_Nic on November 25, 2013, 05:38:57 pm
How about bringing back eu4!?!

Me has agreement to this
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on November 28, 2013, 05:22:36 pm
Please, if you are waiting to give flambard-fix with all other things that need fix, please give flambard fix itself seperately but sooner. I'm dying for like a week+ now and it hurts that I can't use it because it's invisible.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on December 02, 2013, 04:03:59 pm
Please, if you are waiting to give flambard-fix with all other things that need fix, please give flambard fix itself seperately but sooner. I'm dying for like a week+ now and it hurts that I can't use it because it's invisible.
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Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Jarold on December 03, 2013, 12:57:13 am
I think the flambard's stats should be a bit different. Increase it's weight, increase it's swing damage by a lot, reduce it's thrust damage, and reduce it's speed. But that's just my opinion if you wanted to balance it with the other two handers.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Rebelyell on December 03, 2013, 12:59:29 am
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Parrying with such a sword may transmit unpleasant vibrations into the attacker's blade. These vibrations caused the blades to slow contact with each other because each wave provided additional friction. The unusual cross section of the blade would inflict wider wounds with a thrust while still keeping the blade light
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: BlueKnight on December 03, 2013, 01:01:51 am
I think the flambard's stats should be a bit different. Increase it's weight, increase it's swing damage by a lot, reduce it's thrust damage, and reduce it's speed. But that's just my opinion if you wanted to balance it with the other two handers.

It's nice as it is, if you compare it to SoW, SoW is a better stat-choice, but Flambard looks better imho.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: //saxon on December 03, 2013, 11:45:36 pm
are the images on the site going to be put in or what?!

fix flambeed(auto correct ye man) im curious to see what it actually looks like.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Sagar on December 04, 2013, 08:09:59 pm
I hope we will see hotfix this weekend ...
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumbs on December 05, 2013, 05:01:51 pm
In 18 pages no one mentioned Long Voulge buff? Seems like an OK weapon now with that overhead. Also what does Long Voulge (Primary) mean?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on December 05, 2013, 05:49:31 pm
slow...heavy.... I played longvoulge and died as fast as I was pikeman...


In fact I always die very fast..so ...wrong exemple....  :cry:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: pepejul on December 06, 2013, 10:33:58 am
only overhead / poke allowed for longmaul should be great idea too.... maybe with blunt buff ?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumbs on December 07, 2013, 10:53:52 am
Still slower, weaker, and less wieldy than bardiche or long axe-class weapons. Also due to regular Voulge buff it now does only 1 more cut damage than it, but keeps it's disadvantages: only 1 effective attack direction, slow as shit etc.

Maybe its not a great weapon, but its only one of 3 in its class (LV, Swiss Halberd and Partisan) and nearly half the cost of the next one up. Its mostly for breaking shields and hitting people outside their range. Back peddling with that seems to catch people out with the overhead. Not a 1v1 weapon though really. Normal Voulge is more like a regular axe but with a stab, don't think its anything like Long Voulge

Maybe it shouldn't be Unbalanced or have a slightly better stab
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kafein on December 07, 2013, 01:24:06 pm
Maybe it shouldn't be Unbalanced

wat
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumbs on December 07, 2013, 05:35:22 pm
wat

You know, can't block after first part of release animation. Its the only 2d pole with unbalanced stat, and its only 85 speed anyway. 85 speed, 3.5 weight and that length makes it turn pretty slow. Unbalanced just makes it even worse. But I still found it fun to use for a bit
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2013, 01:53:05 pm
You know, can't block after first part of release animation. Its the only 2d pole with unbalanced stat, and its only 85 speed anyway. 85 speed, 3.5 weight and that length makes it turn pretty slow. Unbalanced just makes it even worse. But I still found it fun to use for a bit

Have you seen this thing? The incredible fact about other similar weapons is that they are not unbalanced.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Grumbs on December 08, 2013, 02:49:15 pm
Have you seen this thing? The incredible fact about other similar weapons is that they are not unbalanced.

I have no idea what point you think you're making. Are you saying unbalanced makes it more interesting?

It has an 18 pierce stab. Its nearly only got its overhead for normal fighting, the stab is mostly to rear horses

The general stats should be enough to make it so its not op without unbalanced stat.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Kafein on December 08, 2013, 09:32:04 pm
It could have better stats, like really powerful swings. But it should remain unbalanced.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Byrdi on December 24, 2013, 12:06:48 am
I think you need 12 wpf per PT level

Tydeus said 11 somewhere (at least for archery).
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bifi on December 26, 2013, 10:34:53 am
Nope it's 11.

WPF per PT requirement reduced from 13 to 11.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bifi on December 26, 2013, 11:23:04 am
I've just tested it with my STF. You need 11 wpf per PT.

My guess is that armour penalty doesn't work as simple as you suggest.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Lars on December 26, 2013, 11:44:41 am
I've just tested it with my STF. You need 11 wpf per PT.

My guess is that armour penalty doesn't work as simple as you suggest.

Nvm, i have just read some of my older posts regarding throwing, and I forgot that the throwing formula i mentioned  didn't work even back then for me.     
Sorry, i only made confusion, gonna delete my 2 previous posts in this topic.


Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on December 26, 2013, 01:33:20 pm
I've just tested it with my STF. You need 11 wpf per PT.

My guess is that armour penalty doesn't work as simple as you suggest.
Hey bifi, do you know how much archery wpf is required per a Horse Archery skill too?
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bifi on December 26, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
10 except for the first point.
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on December 26, 2013, 03:22:10 pm
So 4 HA = 30 wpf loss? :shock:
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Bifi on December 26, 2013, 03:26:30 pm
Not sure if you lose WPF, you just need 30 more to not have that message :P
Title: Re: 0.3.1.0
Post by: Ronin on December 26, 2013, 03:48:29 pm
Actually I did some testing with a STF, it really felt like it effected my wpf. My accurately holding time was a bit lesser.