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Which european nation has the greatest history and was the most powerful?

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #255 on: August 29, 2014, 04:55:19 pm »
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Except war is happening in many places across the world right now, more awareness of current conflicts would be more beneficial than more death.

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #256 on: August 30, 2014, 12:15:17 pm »
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Disregard my war rant in previous post...
I forgot that I knew that:
More knowledge of human atrocities =/= More atrocities

We just know more shit now.

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #257 on: August 30, 2014, 02:36:56 pm »
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what difference does it make. what defines greatness,  bla bla.  I see us all  being a fragment of what once will truly be great.  Europe.

great not by winning wars,  but overcoming all the nations crap and being human.

Europe united wont make Europe great. Actually the fact that Europe has (in the past that is) had so many nations competing with each other is the reason it excelled so well, that constant competition with other nations drove Europe forward.

But dont worry multiculturalism is solving Europe's diversity (competition) problems  :mrgreen:

Soon Europa will be just a dream
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #258 on: August 30, 2014, 02:38:36 pm »
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I picked Great Britain because it has given birth to so many great nations (Australia included) around the world and because of countless other reasons  :mrgreen:
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #259 on: September 09, 2014, 10:11:51 am »
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Hah! Giving birth to great nations...

I would rather say that it raped the original country and spawned a bastard that killed it's mother country in its place.

This is not some socialist libtard West-eurpoean guilt trip, it's just a more accurate description of what GB and several other imperial countries has done.

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #260 on: September 09, 2014, 11:48:27 am »
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Tbf, it's the way many, many "countries" (or other form of tribalist identity tied to a territory) were "born", going much further back than the colonial era.
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #261 on: September 09, 2014, 11:49:10 am »
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #262 on: September 09, 2014, 03:20:55 pm »
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Dig trapps when you finish the wall....  :wink:

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #263 on: September 09, 2014, 04:15:59 pm »
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Hah! Giving birth to great nations...

I would rather say that it raped the original country and spawned a bastard that killed it's mother country in its place.

This is not some socialist libtard West-eurpoean guilt trip, it's just a more accurate description of what GB and several other imperial countries has done.

Yeah okay Karl

Great Britain did pretty much rape a lot of countries, but its nothing that every other country around the world wasn't doing then and in the past, hell some are doing it right now.

But what makes Great Britain great is what came from it and all its 'bastards'. The english world has achieved quite a lot. Probably why main land euro trash are so compelled in the jealousy to destroy us.

Ah well the muslims will deal with them  :twisted:
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #264 on: September 09, 2014, 05:40:38 pm »
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Yes, the British Empire was with France on the forefront of the early humanism of the Enlightenment. Part of the build-up for the American Revolutionary War was the British Crown holding back the colonists from invading and exterminating their neighbours (including Canada).

But otherwise conduct in the colonies were scandalous if passing a moral judgement, ranging from any variety of exploitation and killings to direct genocide.

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #265 on: September 09, 2014, 05:55:48 pm »
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On that note, I can recommend this interesting documentary about the badass Gurkhas of the British Army, with ample Victorian sentiment:


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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #266 on: September 10, 2014, 01:13:04 pm »
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Not that it's wholly moral but in Imperial Britain the wealthy and well-to-do didnt really have many qualms rubbing shoulders with the 'right sort' or 'noble savages' of different cultures as long as they were the 'nobility' of that culture. A Native American 'Chief' and their family was something that the British Royals could relate to as equivalent to themselves in a different culture, and more than welcome in British courts and noble estates (cynically you might say as a curiosity or 'oriental' intruigue).

If there was one thing that the scummy British Empire was good at it was placating the natives and finding the 'right sort' to talk to and deal with.

The same deal worked in India for a while. The Moghul emperors were considered equal in royal standing by the British in India until the Victorian era when Christian evangelicalism effectively led to the British seeing them as heathens and no longer to be mixed with and led to their downfall after the 1857 rebellion.

It's quite interesting to read about how the first British in India, even into the Victorian period, married Indian's and mixed almost completely with Moghul and Hindu culture, to the point where they were more Indian than British. It was only when a more puritanical Christian outlook and a more hard line Muslim outlook came to India's shores that this dramatically changed within a few short years.

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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #267 on: September 10, 2014, 01:50:10 pm »
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Yeah okay Karl

Great Britain did pretty much rape a lot of countries, but its nothing that every other country around the world wasn't doing then and in the past, hell some are doing it right now.

But what makes Great Britain great is what came from it and all its 'bastards'. The english world has achieved quite a lot. Probably why main land euro trash are so compelled in the jealousy to destroy us.

Ah well the muslims will deal with them  :twisted:

So you're not a brit then, just an extremely ignorant american. Go visit London one of these days, if there's a continental euro country more pozzed out and infected with self-hating multicultural "islamophobia is bad, m'kay" bundle of sticksry I haven't seen it. Excluding maybe Sweden.
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #268 on: September 10, 2014, 02:09:09 pm »
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Yes, I know, that's what your police thought as well when they uncovered that gigantic pedophile ring run by pakistanis specifically targetting young, native brit girls. Don't want to rock that multi-culti boat, now do we. Pretty hilarious considering the social hysteria surrounding mere accusations of pedophilia in your country, but actual physical proof is off-limits to it when it's muslims responsible apparently.

Or we could always ask our resident brit muslim convert, I'm sure in his views and opinions will be logical and unbiased.
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Re: Who is really the greatest european nation?
« Reply #269 on: September 10, 2014, 02:16:10 pm »
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Or we could always ask our resident brit muslim convert, I'm sure in his views and opinions will be logical and unbiased.

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