SAVE CRPG! NERF RANGED

[Adamar]

This is truly just bullshit you must be doing something wrong.

Hetman has a shittier bow and it's ALWAYS a one hit headshot.  Same for Nebun.

Also...Megalol at the use of regularly to add insult to injury....

You mean, like constantly demanding a nerf for the weakest class?

[polkafranzi]

You mean, like constantly demanding a nerf for the weakest class?

Again!

This is epic.

[wanteds]

This poll is actually good for statistics. Shows that more than half of the players are range!!!
Time for a big NERFFF!!!jajajajaja

You mean, like constantly demanding a nerf for the weakest class?

wololol weakest class? You must be out of your mind. The most archers are doing more damage than the melee str builds, no f***ing joke. And in melee fight they are as fast as ninjas.
(checked the spelling of "melee" on google so Panos wouldn't QQ  )

[OpenPalm]

This is not a problem that can be solved democratically. We don't even know for sure if this needs to be rebalanced or not.  People are giving conflicting anecdotal evidence, which as we all know, is useless.  Is anyone free to test this?  I have a 5 pd archer with a horn bow that can participate.  I need someone with 7PD and someone with a high strength build (24-27 str) with a helm that is over 55 armor.  I'm free for the rest of the night so if you want to test this on the duel server PM me please!   

[OpenPalm]

That is your personal evidence.  The same thing never happens to my fighter, I'm always killed by other fighters with the exact reverse percentages as you.  Nerf 2h weapons!  Buff archers!  See how useless anecdotal evidence is?   

[wanteds]

That is your personal evidence.  The same thing never happens to my fighter, I'm always killed by other fighters with the exact reverse percentages as you.  Nerf 2h weapons!  Buff archers!  See how useless anecdotal evidence is?   

You must be playing another game. Go to that game's forums please.

[Herkkutatti]

Hetman has a shittier bow and it's ALWAYS a one hit headshot. 

Well he is a level 35 archer

[polkafranzi]

Well he is a level 35 archer

Nerf him.

[LastKaze]

Dedicated archers do more damage than xbows.

[wanteds]

ahahahahahahahaha I cant stop laughing, really.

After this post I created a STF alt, 18/21, money only was enough to buy tatar arrows and a tatar bow.

After 2 rounds I was almost topping the score board with 8:3 or something.

I DIDNT PLAY ARCHER FOR ABOUT 12 MONTHS !

Lets assume I would be a dedicated archer using a loomed (good) bow and loomed tatar arrows, I would easily, without even really looking on the screen, topping the score board on every fucking map. There is no counter for a good archer EXCEPT good shielders. Even bad shielders are easy target, I think at least 2 of my kills were heavily armored shielders.

Really, this is so ridiculous.

I know how Chase did get 40:1 scores when he played archer with +3 tatar and +3 rus bow: Because it is really so easy to aim and hit and when you are in trouble you run away till you can shoot again.

Anybody who tells me ranged needs a buff or playing archer would require more skill then melee will get a huge laughter and a mute so I don´t have to hear such BS ever again.

You're right.
Plus, another huge overpowered thing about archers apart from their damage is as you mentioned: their aim. Its like they are all playing with sniper rifles, except they pew pew pew...
That accuracy at that rate of fire is ridiculous. Its like playing a modern day shooter with the most accurate weapons.

[Elmetiacos]

Archers have already been nerfed enough, I think. I used to play as an archer, Llaw_Gyffes, who might be remembered by some veteran players. I wasn't bad at archery, I would usually get a couple of kills every round when I got to high levels. I'm not even sure I had any heirlooms. After the last nerf, I gave up. I tried a STF archer a couple of months ago but didn't stick with him because I was having such a miserable time. It was hard to hit anything, rate of fire was slow, damage low, life expectancy short. The problem is that yet again, we are seeing the rise of crossbow using hybrids.

[Taser]

Archers have already been nerfed enough, I think.

This. They've been nerfed almost every patch. Think this recent patch is the first in a while that didn't nerf archers in some way. Archers are fine the way they are.

Plus warlord, most people saying archers need a buff are joking. Not sure if you understood that or not.

[Smoothrich]

lower ranged damage to melee, double it to horses

archers do really a shit ton of damage to even high armored melee but don't do enough to cav imo and cav spam is prob worse than archer spam

[rustyspoon]

lower ranged damage to melee, double it to horses

archers do really a shit ton of damage to even high armored melee but don't do enough to cav imo and cav spam is prob worse than archer spam

This would make my champion arabian very, very sad. 

[Momo]

lower ranged damage to melee, double it to horses

archers do really a shit ton of damage to even high armored melee but don't do enough to cav imo and cav spam is prob worse than archer spam

We only want a small headshot dmg nerf, so better head armors will be actually useful.. The body dmg is fine atm imo, the headshot dmg makes me rage only. Horses have too much hp though but that's another problem.