Reading the comments, people REALLY hate MS, don't they?
On unrelated note, I really hate that saying. Man, it's 21st century get with the times... well I don't feel like 21st century person. More like 24th century person who doesn't ingest drugs in his body, violence is strange concept for him, doesn't get why we have borders, sees mandatory 8-10 work day as form of slavery and is baffled why we can't travel to other planets. Sadly, in this time and age that makes me look a bit insane.This must be one of the douchiest things uttered on this forum, congratulations
And I'm still using Windows 7.
On unrelated note, I really hate that saying. Man, it's 21st century get with the times... well I don't feel like 21st century person. More like 24th century person who doesn't ingest drugs in his body, violence is strange concept for him, doesn't get why we have borders, sees mandatory 8-10 work day as form of slavery and is baffled why we can't travel to other planets. Sadly, in this time and age that makes me look a bit insane.
This must be one of the douchiest things uttered on this forum, congratulations
You're douchiest person I ever met in a video game, congratulations.
Weren't you the one who said that DaveUKR deserves to die from cancer when he actually had cancer? Single most retarded thing said on this forum, followed by Xant's negation of holocaust and mine "I'll burn whole Norway to the ground and kill ya sorry ass, Apsod". Thing is, denying holocaust is horrible thing, death treats even more but neither have any serious impact on anything and can be taken with a grain of salt. Wishing cancer on someone who is suffering from that horrible disease is probably meanest thing you can say to someone over the internet. It breaks person's already fragile resolve. Can't believe you wasn't permabanned for that, the other guy who joked with death of American player who died from cancer got booted from this forum fairly promptly.
You're douchiest person I ever met in a video game, congratulations.
Weren't you the one who said that DaveUKR deserves to die from cancer when he actually had cancer? Single most retarded thing said on this forum, followed by Xant's negation of holocaust and mine "I'll burn whole Norway to the ground and kill ya sorry ass, Apsod". Thing is, denying holocaust is horrible thing, death treats even more but neither have any serious impact on anything and can be taken with a grain of salt. Wishing cancer on someone who is suffering from that horrible disease is probably meanest thing you can say to someone over the internet. It breaks person's already fragile resolve. Can't believe you wasn't permabanned for that, the other guy who joked with death of American player who died from cancer got booted from this forum fairly promptly.
No, that was Olwen making the shittiest joke ever and he did get punished for it.
Gj throwing shit on a cool guy like vicious vibe, just tried to ruin his immaculate rep?
Did DaveUKR have cancer though?
And I'm still using Windows 7.
On unrelated note, I really hate that saying. Man, it's 21st century get with the times... well I don't feel like 21st century person. More like 24th century person
I heard Dave died. I really think this shouldn't be joked about. Butan's a cunt tho so that's understandable.
I heard Dave died. I really think this shouldn't be joked about.
Reading the comments, people REALLY hate MS, don't they?
This must be one of the douchiest things uttered on this forum, congratulations
I'm so going to dig out that post.In that thread DaveUKR states that he only had one big break, and I knew that he had a break when his cancer thread was posted. I am also very sure that he auctioned of his items a few months after the cancer thread because "playing this game was not in his interests considering his health issues" or at least something along those lines. Thus I found it very weird that he was now claiming his one big break to be because of balance changes, which was an inconsistency that honestly made me doubt the whole cancer story. So I asked about it, not really any evil intent other than being inquisitive towards perceived inconsistencies within the dramatic claims of someone on the internet.
Edit: Well, I did make it sound worse than it was and at first you might think it is innocent but there is certain history between Dave and Teeth, they used to shit on each other a lot and this is clear provocation and Dave saw through it right away:
http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/wtf-is-up-with-the-shooting-through-shield/msg927183/#msg927183
Teeth was also joking how he would like to announce his return again, because Dave used to take breaks and come again, obvious jab at him.
His (serious) opinion of gay people I won't dig out, because I believe he is entitled to dislike them if he wants. But I know some people don't like such attitude. One thing is certain, sweetheart is he not. But those aren't really news, we know very well who we are after all these years. No point at pretending.
As Jesus said: Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. So yeah, take that into consideration before assuming higher ground ;)
His (serious) opinion of gay people I won't dig out, because I believe he is entitled to dislike them if he wants. But I know some people don't like such attitude. One thing is certain, sweetheart is he not. But those aren't really news, we know very well who we are after all these years. No point at pretending.I was a goddamn christian until like 2012. Please do dig it up, I am sure I said some backwards ass shit. It will only serve to remind me how far I have come from an indoctrinated upbringing, through sheer force of education and the internet.
I was a goddamn christian until like 2012.
I was blind but now i see.
I was blind but now i see.
I was blind but now i see.Huh? What is it that you see? Is it the heavenly Bidding?
That happened a long time before my disease. Also if you were right by me now - I'd smashed your face to pieces. I believe that only a rare slice of muck can provoke like this.
In that thread DaveUKR states that he only had one big break, and I knew that he had a break when his cancer thread was posted. I am also very sure that he auctioned of his items a few months after the cancer thread because "playing this game was not in his interests considering his health issues" or at least something along those lines. Thus I found it very weird that he was now claiming his one big break to be because of balance changes, which was an inconsistency that honestly made me doubt the whole cancer story. So I asked about it, not really any evil intent other than being inquisitive towards perceived inconsistencies within the dramatic claims of someone on the internet.
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Not that smashing his face would be difficult.
God, you sound like such a bundle of sticks.
Get out of your head you fucking wannabe intellectual.
If any forum in the world was likely to believe poor Teeth had no say in his personal views towards gays, and that the evils spirits of religion had possessed him and forced him to have those views, it's this forum.
Your 'indoctrination' isn't an excuse for anything lol
Clearly smart enough to spend the first 16 years of my life as a Christian without becoming a homophobic twat in the process.
I guess those Christian jedi-mind-tricks only work on the weak minded.
But then again, what do I know? I'm not that smart. I made the foolish mistake of making up my own mind about the world around me, and not deciding that homosexuality is an affront to god because my handy-dandy handbook of the universe claimed so in certain passages.
That's the thing, you reckon a person would never even think of thinking outside that circle but you don't know. I don't know. I have plenty of experience with deeply religious people who would quite happily think outside the circle so I know from experience that religion doesn't justify being a shitty person. But maybe his brainwashing was far more rigorous than any I've ever seen, and maybe he was entirely sheltered until 2012, I'm open to that possibility.
But Teeth didn't claim 'Give me a break, I was homophobic because I was given untold levels of brainwashing and never exposed to the outside until 2012'. He claimed 'I was a goddamn Christian until 2012' as if that was justification on it's own. And which, on its own, excuses nothing.
Religion is absolutely this forum's blind spot, and I don't just mean in terms of blaming religion. I cant think of any other topics on this forum where you would give someone so much benefit of the doubt. His brainwashing was clearly harsher, he was clearly helpless, he probably secretly wanted to tolerate homosexuality but he never knew any better. Where else would we give so much credence to 'don't blame him, it was his upbringing'?
Blame the belief, not the man. I've said it before and i'll say it again, this forum is remarkably similar to the old religious folk I always used to argue with argue with in a surprising number of ways. I suppose if you go to the furthest edge of a belief you end up in a similar place. When people do 'bad things' it's cos of the devil, it's cos of temptation. It was inconceivable to so many religious people I knew that fault could lay with the individual person doing shitty things, and not some wicked force that manipulated them.
Don't blame me, my religion forced me to do it.
Lol. The devils of religion made me do something entirely without my own input or me processing my own actions. So I guess I'm blameless right?
He claimed 'I was a goddamn Christian until 2012' as if that was justification on it's own. And which, on its own, excuses nothing.It absolutely is, at least for the kind of Christianity I adhered to. To be clear, I am of the opinion that "being a Christian" means actually holding at least some personal conviction that god is real and that the Bible is an inspired text. Once you are in the territory of such beliefs with the Bible clearly denouncing homosexuality and stressing the holiness of the man-woman relationship, not frowning upon homosexuality is just being inconsistent, it comes with the territory. My backwards ideas about homosexuality entirely depended on my belief in a Christian god. As such, as soon as my preference for a bigger picture than my existence on earth finally stopped being enough to patch all the holes, my ideas about homosexuality got revised very quickly and I am a gay-lover supreme nowadays.
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I made the foolish mistake of making up my own mind about the world around me, and not deciding that homosexuality is an affront to god because my handy-dandy handbook of the universe claimed so in certain passages.How do you figure? That homosexual acts are sin, and that God hates sin, are both pretty clear-cut things. If you're a non-Christian, denying that is either misunderstanding or misrepresenting Christianity and the Bible. If you're a Christian, denying that makes you a really weird Apostate.
Things start to get really confusing when throw in sexuality and orientation on top of these gender identities. Like are these people trying to have sex or not? Just tell us whats in your pants and what you want in the pants of your partner.Ahah, wow, that's actually quite well put!
Just tell us whats in your pants and what you want in the pants of your partner.
Technically, any practicing Christian is a really weird apostate these days. So many teachings from the bible have been abandoned in today's churches, but they really really hold onto the whole "gays are wrong" thing.My point was that homosexual acts are wrong, not homosexuals. Anyone who holds onto a "gays are wrong" thing is misguided (if they claim a Biblical basis for it, I should say). There is no such thing, was what I was saying.
My point was that homosexual acts are wrong, not homosexuals. Anyone who holds onto a "gays are wrong" thing is misguided.
Homosexuals are prone to commit homosexual acts though... so even if your take on it is correct, its retarded logic.My eating spaghetti does not make me bad, because I can be repentant for my eating spaghetti, and be redeemed and forgiven. Has anyone on a street corner ever told you that Jesus died for your sins? That's the big idea behind Christianity, and the consequence of that was man then being able to contact God in seeking forgiveness (assuming some other stuff). Seriously, that's the whole ballgame. A central pillar of the whole thing.
If you write a holy book that says "eating spaghetti is bad", dont be surprised if people burn people eating spaghetti.
My eating spaghetti does not make me bad, because I can be repentant for my eating spaghetti, and be redeemed and forgiven. Has anyone on a street corner ever told you that Jesus died for your sins? That's the big idea behind Christianity, and the consequence of that was man then being able to contact God in seeking forgiveness (assuming some other stuff). Seriously, that's the whole ballgame. A central pillar of the whole thing.
Can you call a bisexual person a homo and be right about it?
Some homosexuals commit homosexuals act because they enjoy it and will never consider repenting for it. Others would want to repent but still continue a homosexual lifestyle. Without being in their head I doubt you can separate the two and make a sound judgment.There's always the potential for that though, I have no way of knowing if the fag I walk past in downtown Seattle is going to die completely unrepentant or not. Regardless of that, it isn't the place of an individual to judge another individual anyway, as I said. The point is that you don't make that judgement at all.
Your stance is more tolerant, so thats this going for you. Even though in all case this is stupid, but heh, religion...
Well, a bisexual is a hetero and a homo, so if you call them gay you are right, just not entirely :lol:
I agree to an extent that people need to be blamed and not Christianity as a whole. In this case his parents are the ones at fault. And the people who made up those homophobic lines in the silly text book. And the ones working off those lines. Then again this is what religion is though, making stuff up and passing it onto other people. It is made up by people, passed on by people to other people therefore religion is people. So by putting the blame on people we can easily put the blame on Christianity, it's just using another word for the whole concept.
And Teeth did put the blame on very specific people in his other post explaining his brainwashedness, and not on the term 'Christianity', so I don't know why you get so triggered over this.
It absolutely is, at least for the kind of Christianity I adhered to. To be clear, I am of the opinion that "being a Christian" means actually holding at least some personal conviction that god is real and that the Bible is an inspired text. Once you are in the territory of such beliefs with the Bible clearly denouncing homosexuality and stressing the holiness of the man-woman relationship, not frowning upon homosexuality is just being inconsistent, it comes with the territory. My backwards ideas about homosexuality entirely depended on my belief in a Christian god. As such, as soon as my preference for a bigger picture than my existence on earth finally stopped being enough to patch all the holes, my ideas about homosexuality got revised very quickly and I am a gay-lover supreme nowadays.
Me being a Christian for so long cannot be excused, however, my adherence to Christian beliefs entirely excuses my ideas about homosexuality at the time. I have no idea how anyone is anti-homosexual from an atheist platform. All in all I am not sure what you really want from me here Heskey. Am I a bad person now, even though I have distanced myself extremely far from my prior beliefs in regards to both religion and homosexuality? Have you been a perfect little Bayesian all your life, immune to cognitive dissonance, that you can be so damning? In fact, you claim to have been a Christian and to have never doubted the correctness of homosexuality, that is a nice example of cognitive dissonance right there. Adjusting your religious beliefs to more easily fit with modern society.
By the way, I think the posts Leshma is referring to are in here, read it and weep. I said something really weird here, and I think even at the time I was a bit confused with what I meant when reading it back, and found myself agreeing with what Rhekimos posted next. It sounds pretty shitty though.
http://forum.melee.org/general-off-topic/gay-marriage-you'r-thoughts/75/
Regardless of that, it isn't the place of an individual to judge another individual anyway, as I said. The point is that you don't make that judgement at all.
It's not a stance it's Christianity lmao "tolerance" is irrelevant and a misnomer.
I'm an atheist polyamorous man
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gud shit
http://imgur.com/gallery/uIEZ5Wow they spend a lot of time and money to look kinda feminine, but you can still tell by the shape of their faces that they've got that Y thing going on. Kinda narcissistic and self-absorbed imo.
gud shit
Have you noticed amount of bodybuilders who went female? Think there's a trend in there somewhere. Body dimorphism is probably the cause for both choices in life. Did I just call them people mentally sick? Oh noes...
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